Indian parliamentarian: Taliban's statement about the capture of Panjshir is as meaningless as the USSR's statements about the same in 1980

Indian politicians react to the statements of the Taliban terrorist group (* banned in Russia) to take control of the Panjshir province. Recall that the Taliban * publish numerous photos from Panjshir, including the location of the tomb of Ahmad Shah Massoud, indicating that his son fled to the mountains and threatens to "continue the war" from there.

The statements of the Taliban * were taken painfully in the Indian parliament. In particular, one of the oldest Indian parliamentarians, Subramanian Swami, a representative of the upper house of the Indian parliament, said that the Taliban were lying.

From a statement by Subramanian Swami, Foreign Policy Specialist (Israeli, Pakistani and Chinese):

The Taliban's statement about the capture of Panjshir is as stupid and senseless as the USSR's statements about the same in 1980. Then the militia retreated into the mountains in order to eventually crush the Soviet troops. Today, Massoud's army has also retreated into the mountains to crush the Taliban, as the Soviet troops did in 1980.

According to the 81-year-old Indian parliamentarian, the Taliban are in vain celebrating the victory in Panjshir, "after all, there is really no victory on their part."

Swami believes that the troops of Massoud Jr. "lured the Taliban into a trap," from which the militants now have "no way out."

And while the Indian politician talks about how Masood "set a trap for the Taliban", they raise their flag over the Panjshir capital, Bazarak.

Taliban capture the capital of #Panjshir province & this is their ceremony of officially raising their flag in the governor's office. While they are in control of the province now, they must allow journalists & humanitarian assistance to the province and MUST not harm civilians! pic.twitter.com/P80IRr22hE

- M. Shafiq Hamdam (@shafiqhamdam) September 6, 2021

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[abrakadabre]

Then the militia retreated into the mountains in order to eventually crush the Soviet troops.

And where did they crush our troops? The parliamentarian has exacerbated senile dementia?

[Peak]

Quote: abrakadabre

And where did they crush our troops? The parliamentarian has exacerbated senile dementia?

Actually, the statement about a "trap for the Taliban" also falls under this definition ...

Who will support and feed the newly minted Mujahideen with resources?
In the 80s it was a whole congosortium of countries that opposed the USSR, but now, who will Masud ibn Masud lean on?

[LiSiCyn]

What's left ...

[Egoza]

Quote: abrakadabre

And where did they crush our troops? The parliamentarian has exacerbated senile dementia?

Well, what are you! This is "figurative thinking"

[abrakadabre]

Well, what are you! This is "figurative thinking"

These are false images.

[Snail N9]

It is unpleasant for the Indians who have made a bet on the United States. Well, if we draw analogies with the Soviet operation in Panjer, now the situation is radically different. Nobody from Islamabad will support those who are sitting in Panjer, the Soviet troops were unambiguously perceived by everyone as alien, invaders who brought a secular order alien to the aborigines. The Taliban do not carry anything foreign - Islamic ideology and the Islamic state are at the forefront of them. They say that those who are fighting against us are fighting against Islam. So the days of Punger are numbered. Another thing is that then a bickering will begin between the field commanders of the Taliban, who need to fight and thereby maintain their influence on income.

[knn54]

Just served relatively close (in the Central Asian region) in the early 80s.
After the departure of our soldiers, the Mujahideen descended from the mountains, killed the activists and re-established their locks.
Very difficult terrain, from mid-October it is already winter there.
BUT:
-SA-1 was very close-knit, there was powerful support, in particular, from the PRC and Iran.
-The "Lion" had a "mole" in our General Staff. ON AGREED OPERATIONS. he recognized (sometimes) earlier than Gromov.
Today the situation is completely different, but the Taliban will face a protracted guerrilla war.

[Peak]

Quote: knn54

-The "Lion" had a "mole" in our General Staff. ABOUT AGREED OPERATIONS. he recognized (sometimes) earlier than Gromov.

Who is this "mole"?

Name, rank, position, surname - does he have?

[knn54]

Peak, check the KGB archives.
The ONLY operation that Gromov did not coordinate with Moscow was the unblocking ...
When they dropped sandbags by parachutes of planes and spotted the enemy's firing points.
After which the attack aircraft did their job very efficiently.
We had practically no losses, which cannot be said about the Mujahideen.
For which Gromov received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
I learned the information when Gromov was the commander of the Kiev Military District.

[Peak]

Quote: knn54

Peak, check the KGB archives.

Why should I clarify THERE, if you are quite confident, "with knowledge of the subject" declared the presence of a "mole" in the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense ...

And since you know everything, and you yourself have obviously "clarified it in the KGB archives", why not say after "A" and "B"?

So who is he - "mole"?

[knn54]

Peak may not have been figured out. Maybe a chatterbox. Although not easier.
Look for an interview with our prisoner, who became “Lion's” personal bodyguard and returned to Russia after his murder.
"Scio me nihil scire / scio me nescire".
Yes, and I was far from everywhere - "zero" forms of admission (military and civil) did not allow.
Today (apparently age yes covid) there is no desire
Is that in Karelia, But I'm not a citizen of the Russian Federation.

[isv000]

Quote: PiK

So who is he - "mole"?

You!

[Ontario]

Gromov received a Hero at the end of our presence in Afghanistan, if I am not mistaken for the operation to unblock Horst in 1988. And in the early 80s, he generally commanded the 5th mechanized infantry division, from February 1980 to August 1982. And it seems like this division did not take part in operations in Panjer.

[DenVB]

Quote: knn54

The "Lion" had a "mole" in our General Staff. ON AGREED OPERATIONS. he recognized (sometimes) earlier than Gromov.

You are delusional. The operations were conducted jointly with Afghan forces. From there the information leaked. Wikipedia article "Panjshir operations":

... Only much later did it become clear that the operation ended in a kind of failure. Despite the measures taken to keep the intentions of the Soviet command secret, information leaked with all the ensuing consequences.

Having an extensive network of agents in Kabul, Massoud, well before the start of hostilities, received comprehensive data on all the plans of the government and Soviet troops ...
- "In memory of Ahmad Shah Massoud". Alexander Lyakhovsky, Vyacheslav Nekrasov.

[lopvlad]

Quote: knn54

but the Taliban will face a protracted guerrilla war.

there will be no guerrilla war, because such is possible only with the general support of the local population, which American puppets and protégés in Afghanistan do not have. After all, if such support were there, could the Taliban capture the entire country in a few weeks and quickly clean up Pandsher?

[Flooding]

According to the 81-year-old Indian parliamentarian, the Taliban are in vain celebrating the victory in Panjshir, "after all, there is really no victory on their part."

old brahmana discovered the clairvoyant chakra

[Nafanya from the sofa]

And what do the Indians care about? They have long-standing problems with Pakistan and China. That is why Indian old-mens began to get dirty diapers in advance because of the strengthening of China or began to honestly work out American "humanitarian aid" in the form of paid press?

[Mountain shooter]

The Hindus realized that Afghanistan was being taken over by Pakistan and China. So they hid in hysterics. And the fact that Masud's fighters "went to the mountains", so winter is on the nose. And the Taliban will control all housing in the valley. It is necessary to become terminators in order to survive in the mountains in winter, without supplies, and indeed ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It is necessary to become terminators in order to survive in the mountains in winter, without supplies, and indeed ...

Only ukrokiborgs can do this.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And the fact that the fighters of Masud "went to the mountains", so winter is on the nose.

To Tajikistan, to warm apartments.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: tihonmarine

To Tajikistan, to warm apartments.

Units will pass. This is unlikely to become a resistance.

[sergo1914]

Yeah. Crushed the Soviet troops? The grandfather is clearly out of his mind and is with one foot in the Land of the Eternal Hunt.

[Ross xnumx]

Indian parliamentarian: Taliban's statement about the capture of Panjshir is as meaningless as the USSR's statements about the same in 1980

We also do not consider the statements of the Indian authorities about the high combat readiness of the Indian Armed Forces.

[ultra]

It's time for grandpa to retire.

[Zoomlion]

Dementia and Senile Dementia Spares No One, Not Even Yogis

[tihonmarine]

Swami believes that the troops of Massoud Jr. "lured the Taliban into a trap," from which the militants now have "no way out."

This is just as the Ukrainian authorities said that they lured the militias near Debaltseve, and they had no way out. Only everything turned out the other way around. And here in Panjshir the same option.

[Nikolaevich I]

Yesterday I go to YouTube ... Nearby there are 2 messages posted at approximately the same time ... In one: "The Taliban are celebrating victory! Mountains of weapons captured! Taliban are photographed in the Masud mausoleum!"
In another ...: "Tank unit" Resistance forces "suddenly dealt a crushing blow to the Taliban!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

In short .... you have to wait a little ... until everything settles down!

Colleague, well, Maksudik will not be able to keep Panjshir. We can assume with a certain degree of certainty that Pakistani special forces are already fumbling there, and maybe Chinese. Besides, Pakistanis will calmly bomb masudniki, at the same time, and this is not us. Maybe, of course, a little lion cub will find a couple of stingers in the caches, but Surely no one will supply them to him, the "peaceful dykhans" generally don't care about whose galoshes they wear, Chinese, Soviet or Pakistani, and the mullah will explain everything to them correctly and, with normal payment, the maksudik soup will be brought directly to the table.

[Andobor]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

In short .... you have to wait a little ... until everything settles down!

Look for whom the Ukrainian bot farms are blowing - he lost.

[BISMARCK94]

Even forbidden on the one hand, on the other henchmen of the West. Where to fight, in which direction should the sofa be turned?

[DenVB]

If the resistance in Panjshir continues, the Taliban may switch to classic counterinsurgency tactics: terror against a disloyal population that supports the guerrilla. Soviet troops were embarrassed to do this, the Taliban are unlikely to be embarrassed. They may even agree to replace the disloyal population with a loyal one. That is, they will begin to squeeze out the Tajiks and populate the province with Pashtuns. Loyal Pashtuns will serve as the eyes and ears of the Taliban Armed Forces and intelligence agencies. In the mountains, the partisans will be able to sit for a while, but when they try to go down from there, they will be discovered and methodically exterminated.