The third serial frigate of project 22350 "Admiral Isakov" received a power plant

The third serial frigate of project 22350 "Admiral fleet Soviet Union Isakov "received a power plant. According to the press service of Severnaya Verf", turbines and a gearbox of the DGTA M55R diesel-gas turbine unit were installed on the ship.

As stated in a press release from Severnaya Verf, received by Voennoye Obozreniye, both port and starboard turbines are loaded onto the frigate along with gearboxes. The next operation will be the alignment of gearboxes, main diesel engines and turbines, after which the shipbuilders will take over the shafting. For all of the above work, six months are allotted.

As previously reported, the second diesel-gas turbine unit М55Р for the frigate "Admiral Isakov" was delivered to the shipyard "Severnaya Verf" in early August this year, the first in July. The first delivery of DGTA-M55R within the framework of import substitution of Ukrainian power plants was carried out in November last year. Then Severnaya Verf received a kit for the frigate Admiral Golovko.

At the end of June this year, Severnaya Verf signed a contract for the supply of four diesel-gas turbine M55R units for the frigates Admiral Yumashev and Admiral Spiridonov under construction. Thus, taking into account the new contract, Russian power plants DGTA-M55R will be equipped with six frigates: Admiral Golovko, Admiral Isakov, Admiral Amelko, Admiral Chichagov, Admiral Yumashev and Admiral Spiridonov. The lead and first serial frigates "Admiral Gorshkov" and "Admiral Kasatonov" received Ukrainian units produced by "Zorya" - "Mashproekt".

In addition to the M55FR gas turbine engine with a maximum power of 90 horsepower, the DGTA-M27R includes a 500D10 diesel engine with a power of 49 horsepower, a PO5200R gearbox and control systems.

Comments

[newcomer]

Well, that's just fine. What can I say.

[paul3390]

Only in the mind - it should have been done 20 years ago. If not 30. Well, how could you plan the development of the fleet - on foreign engines ?? Well at least now the need made me think again ..

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: paul3390

Only in the mind - it should have been done 20 years ago.

? so why were you silent at 91 when the 404 fell off? hindsight we are all strong ...

[paul3390]

That's what I think - well, who is to blame for the collapse of the Union and the subsequent curse? Yell - it turns out I am!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: paul3390

That's what I think - well, who is to blame for the collapse of the Union and the subsequent curse? Yell - it turns out I am!

how does your post relate to the article? I wrote to you that now it's a sin to complain about the past .... but if you knew that Ukraine would become hostile, why didn't you immediately start writing about the GTU problem after the division of the USSR?

[Pankrat25]

Every nation has the government that it deserves. Joseph de Mestre
Therefore, yes, you are personally guilty of this as well. And this applies to everyone who is reading this now!

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Tiksi-3

? so why were you silent at 91 when the 404 fell off? hindsight we are all strong ...

and he was in the government of the Russian Federation, in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? was he in the presidential administration?
He received a couple of million rubles of salary officially (and many times more alternatively)?
Is he hung with medals for services to the fatherland of all degrees?
such as Serdyukov, Andrey Nikolaevich

Hero of the Russian Federation (2020);
Order of Merit for the Fatherland, III and IV degrees with swords;
Order of Alexander Nevsky;
Order of Courage;
Order of Honor;
Order for Military Merit;
Order "For Service to the Motherland in the Armed Forces of the USSR" III degree

screwed up
Serdyukov, Anatoly Eduardovich
Rewards

Medal "For Merit" (FSSP of Russia, November 22, 2006)
Certificate of honor of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation (April 2, 2008) - for active assistance and substantial assistance in organizing and holding the elections of the President of the Russian Federation
Order of the Holy Blessed Prince Daniel of Moscow, III degree (2009, ROC)
Order of Friendship of Peoples (Belarus, 2009)
Certificate of Merit from the Collective Security Council of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (December 20, 2011) - for active and fruitful work to develop and deepen military-political cooperation within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization
Distinguished “Named Firearms” (January 4, 2012, Ukraine)

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

and he was in the government of the Russian Federation, in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? was he in the presidential administration?

but I don’t know, but I see that after 30 years they suddenly begin to see clearly that they need to do it earlier .... but what did they keep silent before .... we have always to blame Marked hump, Borka drunk and Chubaty, but how long can you hide behind them? already under Putin we have been living for 20 years, and all three ghouls are to blame

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Tiksi-3

already under Putin, we have been living for 20 years, and all three of ghouls are to blame

in my opinion, 20 years is just the zone of guilt when "getting up and getting up from our knees"
For me, the situation with water and electricity in the Crimea, with the logistics for the operation in Syria, was typical.
Borka drunk long gone

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

in my opinion 20 years is just the zone of guilt

you would have said this in 20-30 years, or after the Second World War, you have to work, and not look for those responsible 30 years ago

[ja-ja-vw]

Why should I stir up the 30s of the last century?
I stand here now. and I see what is, and I remember how it was

[bk316]

but must plow 24 hours a day, for the good of the Motherland

Dmitry!
So he plows, just like scribbling comments. Already beguiled the Serdyukovs, the authorities are in a hurry to brand
And of course for the good of the Motherland, the question is WHERE is his homeland?

[Barberry25]

yes yes yes .. this is not a case of songs about "Putin should have arrested everyone in the 99th year and began to build the Russia of the future, so that in 5 years he would plant apple trees on Mars"?

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Barberry25

Even you have a so-so lieutenant with memory

this makes no sense.
well refresh my memory, if so!

[Barberry25]

there are specific reports from the CIA that by 2015 Russia should have collapsed ... Now Russia has not only crawled away from the edge of the abyss, but is actively developing and building. Yes, with errors, but it is developing, and who is shouting about that, that if he were in power, he would have done 10 times better - a gibberish and a liar ..

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Barberry25

there are specific reports from the CIA that by 2015 Russia

if there is, I would like to read: I eat in English and even Spanish

Quote: Barberry25

Now Russia has not only crawled away from the edge of the abyss, but is also actively developing and building

[lopvlad]

Quote: Tiksi-3

already under Putin, we have been living for 20 years, and all three of ghouls are to blame

if your house is demolished to the ground and in its place leave a bare wasteland, then after how many years will you build a new one if you have no money in your pocket and at the same time you owe (those same external debts of the USSR that Russia paid only in 2017) to everyone during the construction of the past at home ? It is only easy to demolish the country, but to build it takes many decades. The USSR only in the late 80s overcame the consequences of the war of 1941-1945.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Tiksi-3

.. we are always guilty of the marked hump, Borka drunk and Chubaty, but how long can you hide behind them?

We are to blame for all the previous gene. Seks, Tsars and Grand Dukes ... up to Yaroslav the Wise and Rurik! In hindsight, everyone is strong!

[major071]

ja-ja-vw (Lieutenant Rzhevsky)

He received a couple of million rubles of salary officially (and many times more alternatively)?
Is he hung with medals for services to the fatherland of all degrees?
such as Serdyukov, Andrey Nikolaevich

It is a sin not to know your heroes and be carried on by their surname. Serdyukov Andrei Nikolaevich is the commander of the Airborne Forces, a hero of Russia, a participant in both Chechen wars, the march of the combined battalion of the Airborne Forces on Pristina and the Russian military operation in Syria. Not to be confused with Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov, ex-defense minister.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: major071

It is a sin not to know your heroes and be carried on by their surname. Serdyukov Andrey Nikolaevich

Anrey Nikolaevich may forgive me, I beguiled

[Okolotochny]

let me forgive me, I was confused

You are not beguiled, but unsuccessfully asked for Vika - specialty.

[bk316]

You are not beguiled, but unsuccessfully asked for Vika - specialty.

Bravo! You cannot forget or confuse what you did not know.
And this individual pulls entire paragraphs from the wiki (as if not pages), obviously not even reading.
I just want to ask how much to pay ...

[Okolotochny]

Pay on denyuzhkam. Like Nekrasov: "They call this cry a song." Here are sick and cry.

[Flooding]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

Serdyukov, Anatoly Eduardovich
Rewards

well, I'll tell you, it's very modest for such an epic figure

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Flood

well, I'll tell you, it's very modest for such an epic figure

medals are so.
There is one section "under the radar" on the Black Sea, which Puzikov received more than compensates for all the medals

[Flooding]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

There is one section "under the radar" on the Black Sea, which Puzikov received more than compensates for all the medals

Is this that old story with a son-in-law or a matchmaker?
really did not squeeze back?

Quote: ja-ja-vw

medals so

hence, not yet ambitious
well, just a model for officials

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Flood

really did not squeeze back?

recognized as a bona fide purchaser.
+
Recreation center Zhitnoye “Railway warriors built an asphalt road from the base to the south, towards the Caspian coast, so that it would be more convenient for high-ranking fishermen to export trophies. the land under it from the local administration cost the Ministry of Defense about 100 million rubles "
Art. 285 of the Criminal Code does not work "panimeh"

[Flooding]

already forgotten that hype around Serdyukov and his young ladies
but he was a noble nix, they wrote a lot
yes, all without result, alas

[ja-ja-vw]

In the declaration for 2020, Serdyukov indicated income of 117,53 million rubles and the income of his wife - 79,11 million rubles. Also, the declaration included the income of a minor child - 2,37 million rubles.... The Serdyukov couple have extensive real estate assets, including an apartment in France with a total area of ​​89 sq. m. Serdyukov's wife has non-residential properties, next to which there is a mark that this is "property used in business."
On July 13, 2021, an entry appeared in the Unified State Register of Legal Entities that Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov became the owner of Soyuzinvest LLC from Moscow. The firm has been operating in the real estate market since November 2005. Before Serdyukov, the owner was Galina Eduardovna Puzikova, whose data coincide with the data of the sister of the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov

A former asset of his sister, which came into his possession in July 2021, Soyuzinvest was the executor of 22 government contracts for a total amount of more than 553 million rubles. All of them are associated with the rental of real estate and the activities associated with it. The customer of 21 contracts is the Federal Tax Service of Russia in Moscow. For example, on June 1, 2021, a contract was signed for 61,6 million rubles with a deadline of June 30.06.2023, 4054,5 for the lease of non-residential premises with a total area of ​​42 sq. m on Volgogradskiy prospect, 26 building 2020. The premises are used to accommodate tax officials and belong to the Soyuzinvest company. The net profit of the LLC at the end of 76,899 amounted to 2019 million rubles against the net profit in 83,439 - XNUMX million rubles.




Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3323961.html

[Essex62]

Why are there so many disadvantages? This colleague wrote a lie? Declaration document, sort of.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Essex62

Why are there so many disadvantages? This colleague wrote a lie? Declaration document, sort of.

and I'm just haunted by a swarm of bidril.

there are 6 of them, maybe 7, including the "navigator" and
bk316 (Vladimir), I didn't like it right away, so they crawl after me and shit and shit

bk316 Volodenka counts how many comments I wrote, everyone is looking for where my homeland is and how much the State Department pays me
well + 3/5 ran, saw, kicked further ran

[Essex62]

The swarm is too big. No, this is a position, a belief. When so minus. The world is not black and white, it is, from a certain point, red and white. And here, according to the principle, we do not hand over ours. The gentlemen do not see anything shameful in the fact that small children also have fat and pay tax. Pay the same.
Write to Kramol, so he is hired.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Essex62

Write to Kramol, so he is hired.

I just write what I think.
If Serdyukov is a positive dick for the electorate ... well, what to do?
This means that the slavery has come to an end.

[Essex62]

There is no electorate. Tales of Native American fighters. Look to whom it is profitable and sweet, from this addictions are dancing. What we have, what is in Burkina Faso.

[bk316]

... If not 30.

and he was in the government of the Russian Federation, in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation?

Who was it?

[huntsman650]

They said), no one believed !!!

[newcomer]

Of course. The first call was in 2004.

[max702]

Quote: newbie

Of course. The first call was in 2004.

Not in 1991

[newcomer]

Well, then everything was somehow "rosy" both for them and for us. No one could even think about the complete collapse of production ties.

[max702]

Quote: newbie

No one could even think about the complete collapse of production ties.

I somehow immediately understood that all this would be halfway up to armed conflicts .. The used rhetoric was too revealing.

[alexmach]

Oh, here is the last white leaflet I saw in the original as a child.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

20 years ago, we just started to get out of the economic hole, there was not enough money to support the military in Chechnya.

I served at 42 MFD. the equipment was repaired at their own expense.

[lopvlad]

Quote: paul3390

Only in the mind - it should have been done 20 years ago. If not 30.

according to the mind, it was necessary, like the West, to concentrate all technological production on the territory of the RSFSR and hell would anyone separate from Russia in the 90s. except that the Republic of Belarus)

[Barberry25]

yeah, right in the 91st year ... after the Bialowieza conspiracy, yeah)

[Piramidon]

Quote: paul3390

Only in the mind - it should have been done 20 years ago

This is called bringing in your spoon shit tar in really good news.

[I am not a robot]

well, at 90 people divided anak into a family, what other factories
in 2000, thanks to oil, something began to be restored, what else could be saved, what other new factories
that is, it turns out that only in the last decade it was possible to do something, and it turns out that they did it, the engines went to the Russian fleet

[Glagol1]

Until 2014, Ukraine regularly supplied engines for aircraft, helicopters and ships. At quite average prices, and the engines are good. As now, our mobile Yars ride on Belarusian platforms. It was impossible to predict that such shit would come to power there and clean everything around. And to create engine building in the substitution mode is a task for 10 -20 years with an unwarranted ending. So the fact that there are real results already now, in 7 years, is expensive!

[Essex62]

Political myopia hit the economy. The coming of the westernization, to power in Ukraine, could have been prevented.

[Mountain shooter]

Hello racers. Import substitution was hard, but we did it! Competencies have grown, new production has been launched, no one will interfere with building frigates.

[lucul]

Import substitution was hard, but we did it! Competencies have grown, new productions have been launched, no one will interfere with building frigates anymore.

I especially want to know how much the quality of the power plant has grown in comparison with the Ukrainian one.
I had great suspicions about sabotage from the Ukrainian side, back in the days of the USSR.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: lucul

I especially want to know how much the quality of the power plant has grown in comparison with the Ukrainian one.

Military acceptance - no? Everything is regulated there ... Operation will show.

[lopvlad]

Quote: lucul

I especially want to know how much the quality of the power plant has grown in comparison with the Ukrainian one.

[huntsman650]

Not exploited yet, we are waiting for feedback from ship mechanics)

[Stepan S]

The next operation will be the alignment of gearboxes, main diesel engines and turbines, after which the shipbuilders will take over the shafting. For all of the above work, six months are allotted.

I understand that the operation is complicated, but still it takes a very long time to center the turbine-diesel-gearbox for half a year. Something in the technological process needs to be corrected.

[lucul]

I understand that the operation is complicated, but still it takes a very long time to center the turbine-diesel-gearbox for half a year.

It all depends on the specialist who will do this, and the more money is spared on the quality of the thrust bearings, the faster the shafts will center.

[alch3mist]

I understand that the operation is complicated, but still it takes a very long time to center the turbine-diesel-gearbox for half a year. Something in the technological process needs to be corrected.

I also asked myself: how long would it take for these procedures under Beria

[Scharnhorst]

These frigates would need a more powerful diesel engine (6000 hp) and a gearbox capable of ensuring the operation of the diesel engine together with the turbine. Well, on our bezrybe then a pike with cancer ... Give a time!

[URAL72]

Either you know something (maybe you were developing a project?), Or an epiphany descended upon you, but I don’t understand where such conclusions come from? Diesel engines on this ship are designed for economic, emergency running and low noise when searching for underwater targets and passages in minefields. The power of the turbines is rigidly linked to the shape of the body, hydrodynamics. But we need more such ships and older brothers pr 22350M. Why didn't Amber receive those documents and orders? And what about the NEA for the Pacific Fleet? We need to accelerate, a storm is approaching on the Quiet.

[lucul]

These frigates would need a more powerful diesel engine (6000 hp) and a gearbox capable of ensuring the operation of the diesel engine together with the turbine.

As they appear, it will be possible to replace it, the ship has been serving for more than one year.

[Flooding]

Quote: Scharnhorst

These frigates would need a more powerful diesel engine (6000 hp).

Kolomna six-thousanders 20385D16 are running at 49
Do you think that a frigate needs a higher economic speed?

Quote: Scharnhorst

a gearbox capable of ensuring the operation of a diesel engine together with a turbine

and now how is full speed ensured? turbines alone?

[Mooh]

There is never a lot of power. Unfortunately, domestic diesel engines do not differ in large resource, and when working with partial load they will live longer. Accordingly, a similar diesel engine with a higher power will not sag out so much.

[Flooding]

Quote: MooH

There is never a lot of power. Unfortunately, domestic diesel engines do not differ in large resource, and when working with partial load they will live longer. Accordingly, a similar diesel engine with a higher power will not sag out so much.

it is logical
on the other side of the diesel in the codag power plant are used for economic travel and long transitions.
And fuel consumption is not the last thing.

[Mooh]

Consumption does not directly depend on the maximum power. When driving a more powerful engine at partial load, it is likely to be lower than that of a less powerful engine at full load. The real minus is only in weight and cost.

[Flooding]

Quote: MooH

it will most likely be lower than that of a less powerful one at full. The real minus is only in weight and cost.

quite likely - means inaccurate
coupled with significant disadvantages forces to look for a middle ground instead of an unjustified pursuit of power

[Rubi0]

Yes, some turbines according to the codog scheme, codag, as far as I remember, the industry has not yet mastered, there a cunning gearbox is needed so that both diesel and turbines work on one shaft at the same time

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Flood

and now how is full speed ensured? turbines alone?

Yes, that's right, this gearbox does not allow collaboration))
the type of such installation CODOG (eng. COmbined Diesel Or Gas, literally combined diesel or gas turbine) is a combined diesel-gas turbine ship power plant, in which a diesel engine and a gas turbine work on the same propeller shaft, but the possibility of their simultaneous operation is not provided.
if combined, then CODAG (COmbined Diesel And Gas turbine, literally a combination of a diesel and a gas turbine) is a combined diesel-gas turbine ship power plant in which a diesel engine and a gas turbine work together on one propeller shaft. The gearbox allows either of the two motors to work alone or both motors together.
The use of CODOG allows you to simplify the power plant and reduce its weight and dimensions, but require more powerful gas turbine engines)))

[Flooding]

Quote: ZEMCH

Yes, that's right, this gearbox does not allow collaboration

Thank you!
if I understand correctly, it is the gearbox that determines the type of power plant in this case
in the internet everywhere they write that at 22350 Codag.
here and figure it out.

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Flood

if I understand correctly, it is the gearbox that determines the type of power plant in this case

Yes, you understood everything correctly))) The simplest solution for the IPC 1124 project, three valolines. Onboard under the diesel engine, central under the afterburner. Joint work allowed to develop 32 nodes)))

[alekc75]

half a year, isn't it a lot ??

[Motorist]

Quote: alekc75

half a year, isn't it a lot ??

TA-dah! And the alignment should not be the other way around: the propeller shaft, and then the gearbox afloat, and after - the main engine?

[Ros 56]

Well, hard workers, now we need microns.

[AntiAleks]

Soon there will be proud news of oars rigging and combat rowers.

[ermak124.0]

very witty. laugh outright

[Crash]

Ummm ... Is the article and discussions exactly about a frigate? Or is it just a political shit?