Will the USA leave the world stage?

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Indeed, here is the question - so the question. Mr. President of that part of the world, Biden, declared that American interventionism is all over. More precisely, Defense Secretary Austin first said that wars had drained America and their era was over. And then Biden himself developed his idea, and, by the way, did it in a very original way.

Indeed, Mr. Biden did everything to beautifully explain the failure in Afghanistan.



“… We conducted a counter-terrorism mission to combat terrorists and stop attacks. But it was transformed into building a nation, into attempts to create a democratic, cohesive and united Afghanistan, which has never been done in many centuries. stories of this country. "

Suppose, about "democratic" Afghanistan - it was old Biden who banged without thinking. Now the Taliban will establish life there according to Sharia, and there will be no talk of any democracy.

But Biden carried on.

“To put it simply, we took on an unsolvable task, we wanted to civilize the wild people, the children of the mountains, nothing happened - so we will no longer do this. We are still better, more progressive, more elected and stronger than everyone, but now we will not send troops to overthrow foreign governments. "

In general, it would be worth recalling the historical facts here. Afghanistan is a territory where war is constantly going on. Three Anglo-Afghan wars, civil wars, in which, in turn, the USSR got involved, and then the United States.

So far, no one has succeeded in civilizing the Afghans. And this is normal for such a country. War is a normal state of affairs for Afghanistan, where the overwhelming majority of the people know nothing more than how to fight. And he doesn't want, by and large, anything else.


And here the question generally arises: do the Afghans need some other peace? This one, with LGBT people, gay rights and so on? The Taliban said "there will be no music." But not all of them, but if you look seriously, if Conchita Wurz is not seen in Afghanistan under the Taliban, who will feel bad from this?

So, in general, it is worth seriously thinking about whether it is generally necessary to impose on the bayonets the "achievements of democracy" on a country that has lived almost its entire history according to the laws of the Muslim world?

But we will see how the Afghan people will live under the old / new government. They will show us this for sure.

Quoting Biden again:

“The decision on Afghanistan concerns not only Afghanistan. We are talking about the end of the era of major military operations to remake other countries ... Giving up this worldview and large-scale deployment of troops will make us stronger, more efficient and safer at home. "

What is this? The United States can so easily abandon the usual military operations around the world? But what about the imposition of democratic principles and freedoms? But what about the already familiar US hegemony on the world stage?

As for democracy, the situation in the States itself is a bit tense today. For the United States is now hostage to its own program of globalization and polishing the whole world according to its own model.

In fact, the world itself is not hungry for it. And the United States found itself in a very interesting situation. Let's see if the States can use their fleet and your army to conquer half the world? Yes, easily. Defeat, occupy, plant your administration ... Well, like in Iraq or Libya. We know, we remember.

In general, South America, Africa, part of Asia will just fall like ripe apples. With whom it really does not work - it is, perhaps, China and Russia. The rest are unlikely to have any problems, but ...

But why?

By and large, such an alignment of world domination was not needed by the States themselves in the first place. How this ends can be traced normally to the example of Germany and Japan 80 years ago. Occupying and crushing the whole world is somewhat different from what the US program is based on.

But to control the world by creating a "correct" order in it is quite normal. Correct is based on common American values ​​and freedoms. Well, yes, slightly so backed up by the US military machine. That is, not an occupation, but simply the presence of forces superior to any coalition that may be formed in the foreseeable future.

And, of course, His Majesty Dollar. Weapon no less, but even more effective than an aircraft carrier. And since one does not interfere with the other, the city takes the dollar, and the aircraft carrier makes sure that everything goes decorously and democratically.

In principle, the United States has succeeded in winning the geopolitical struggle at the top level, at the global level. Indeed, a large number of countries in the world have adopted, if not American ideals, then the American dollar. Here, too, one does not interfere with the other at all, but the fact is: the world has ceased to be bipolar and the communist idea, which for many years was a counterweight to the American system of democracy, has died. What is being built in China today is somewhat different from what Marx, Engels and Lenin dreamed of, although it is a completely viable cocktail of communist ideas, state control and ordinary private business.

But at a low level, let's say, not in general, but in particular, the United States, perhaps, lost. Let's put our hand on our hearts and acknowledge that all US gestures in the Middle East and Asia are not for the sake of fighting terror. The oil of Iraq, Syria and Libya, of course, is a reason, but all the same, these countries are by no means leaders (except for Iraq), and Afghanistan is famous not for the import of oil, but for completely different substances.


In general, the situation turned out to be quite the opposite: on the one hand, hatred of the United States on the part of the occupied Islamic countries in particular, and on the part of the Islamic world in general, increased, but on the part of the allies there were more claims.

Although, as the American military dumped from Kabul, completely spitting on everyone else, this, in principle, shows that even in the military organism of the States, not everything is all right. The body is clearly sick.

In this situation, after such a frankly disorganized flight, of course, there is a direct sense for some time to abandon plans to control the world and to "cure" your state organism.

By the way, it was on this "treatment" that the previous US president, Donald Trump, was burned to death. But his view of the role of the United States in the world was somewhat different from the views of those who so famously removed him from the political scene.

Those who really turn the steering wheel of the American state machine, they cannot view the world otherwise than as a kind of platform for the implementation of the idea of ​​American domination over the rest.

Here, if anyone can be called "God's chosen", it is the Americans. Because they assigned themselves to this role, especially without asking anyone. This is what irritates the countries most of all, which could well have done without American pressure and US interference in their internal affairs. For example, Germany would very much like to become a European gas hub, but ... 35 American soldiers seem to hint at who is the boss in the country.


It was not for nothing that I mentioned Germany, a very striking example. In fact, the United States began "building democracy" from this very country. Of course, compared to the Nazi period, what the Americans began to build was the light at the end of the tunnel. However, the result was not USA-2, but something completely different. A truly half-occupied country, the government of which often gets a hand in case of excessive independence.

By the way, something strange was built there and in Japan. On the one hand, there is a constitutional monarchy, on the other, a dozen military bases and almost 50 US troops who "protect" the Japanese state.


But in the case of Afghanistan, it turned out to be completely different. The United States seems to have decided to build, as in Germany, a democratic society. The fact that in the Islamic country of Afghanistan with its tribal way of life, it was as if they simply did not understand the essence of democracy. Initially, there was an orientation towards a completely different system in Afghanistan.

So it is one thing to recreate a legal democratic state (let me remind you of the Weimar Republic) in Germany, and quite another thing to impose the construction of such a form on Islamic Afghanistan.

But who, when in the US, was interested in an opinion different from the American one?

Again, in 2002, the Loy Jirg, the tribal council of Afghanistan, decided to return to the throne of Zahir Shah, who was overthrown in 1973. Why not the democratic voice of the people who wanted to return the ruler and the usual forum of government?

However, stroking the barrels of machine guns, the Americans explained to the Afghans that the shah / king is very bad. We need democratic elections. Who needs it is not entirely clear, but very much needed. Without them, there is simply no way.


In general, the United States wanted to spit on the aspirations of other peoples. There are two visions, one is American democratic, the other is wrong.

The natural result is the flight from Afghanistan, which Biden is now trying to pass off as a well-executed operation.

Well, as much as you like.

Most importantly, the system of establishing a democratic society by imposing its own rules and ideas on other countries has finally begun to falter.

So, has the United States decided to abandon such operations? At all?

Of course not.

The United States refuses to conduct "major military operations" to alter the structures of other countries. It is a pity that so far no one has explained how a large operation differs from an average one. Because, as I understand it, medium and small operations will continue to be carried out.


It turns out that everything will remain as it was, the scope of operations will simply decrease. The main goal of the United States - to dominate the world and remake the world at will with the help of various means (political, economic, ideological), and even supported by the military - will continue in the future.

It’s just that the United States simply cannot exist as a state otherwise. This is the main meaning of the functioning of this country. As they say - for peaceful purposes, there would be energy ...

It turns out that Biden's words are so, words. Roughly speaking, he seems to have voiced actions that no one in the United States is seriously going to implement. He said goodbye to the whole world, but he is not going to leave anywhere.

This is the whole essence of the existence of the United States. And those who determine its course for the coming years simply do not see another way for this country.
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  1. -3
    6 September 2021 03: 50
    Will the USA leave the world stage?

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    Yankee, go home! ...
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    1. +6
      6 September 2021 05: 18
      The Americans will not go anywhere, they are specially regrouping their forces to put pressure on Russia and China. I think support for Ukraine and Georgia will be increased, as well as for the entire western direction.
      1. 0
        6 September 2021 06: 17
        Where are they going to put pressure on?) In what direction are they regrouping forces?))) What will the support of Georgia or Ukraine give them if they can be smeared and there is nothing to help them with loud shouts?) These Ukrainian mantras, in my opinion, only work in 404 and then from hopelessness. How long did Biden write to the clown? 60 million like?))) This is the level of support in all its glory.
        1. +10
          6 September 2021 07: 50
          USA is fleeing! With shame !!
          So let's catch up and give in!)) Weak? Are there any brave ones?

          The US is leaving Afghanistan.
          So that's good for the US. But for Russia it may not be very good. But let's leave the topic: Afghanistan - Russia aside.

          But about the US fiasco in Afghanistan, I would like to clarify - what is so much enthusiastic joy among the Russians? Will America lift our sanctions? Will the pressure decrease? Or will the dollar suddenly lose its popularity (liquidity)? How will this generally affect US-Russian relations? In my opinion - no way. And here you can only "rejoice" for the Taliban terrorists! But, it will just be absurd and wrong.
          1. +3
            6 September 2021 11: 00
            And, of course, His Majesty Dollar. The weapon is no less, and even more effective than the aircraft carrier.

            Briefly about the dollar:

            Dollar denominated over 60% of $ 360,6 trillion. of total aggregate global wealth, as follows from the Global Wealth Report 2019 of the Swiss bank Credit Suisse. This is still 92% of $ 6 billion daily volume of oil trade and more 72% of the turnover amount world trade in all existing types of raw materials on the planet. According to SWIFT, 45,58% of all international settlements in 2020 were ultimately made through the US dollar, another 36,75% were made through the euro.
            1. +1
              6 September 2021 16: 59
              I COMPLETELY agree with Roman's article: Americans say goodbye, but don't go anywhere! For the raison d'être of the United States is world hegemony. And for this they will cling and fight until the very end! Even losing over and over again and crawling out of many places where they got.
        2. +1
          8 September 2021 19: 59
          Quote: carstorm 11
          How long did Biden write to the clown? 60 million like?))) This is the level of support in all its glory.

          A trifle, but nice! Five or two lyamas from this amount will not take Ze's pocket ... lol
      2. +8
        6 September 2021 11: 16
        Quote: Cool but not Igor
        I think support for Ukraine and Georgia will be increased, as well as for the entire western direction.

        They left Afghanistan for a reason - they are essentially blowing up the entire Central Asian region. Now they are turning Afghanistan into a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, it is for this that thousands of ISIS and Al-Qaeda fighters were taken out the day before. Al-Qaeda has already joined the Taliban and is crushing the so-called. Northern Alliance in Pandshera. What's next ?
        And then from there, having made Afghanistan a base, these funny guys will deal with the destabilization of Mr. Central Asia, China (through East Turkestan \ Siijian-Uygur JSC), Iran and ... Mother Russia.
        Under the strict guidance of Turkish intelligence, which is essentially led by MI6.
        So, having left Afghanistan, the United States not only did not abandon its plans to "contain" China and the Russian Federation from there, but, on the contrary, is transferring this "containment" into the most radical phase.
        Are the RF ready for this?
        China?
        Iran?
        Are they aware of the extent of the threats?
        It seems that already yes.

        And the United States is now releasing forces and resources to increase pressure on the Russian Federation from the European direction, and China in the South China Sea.

        And these bearded men will drink more of our blood ...
        1. +2
          6 September 2021 13: 28
          Quote: bayard
          And these bearded men will drink more of our blood ...

          They essentially do not know how to do anything other than how to fight. And even if they could, then there is nowhere in Afghanistan to realize themselves in any profession, except for a florist. In addition, in neighboring countries there is a certain contingent of sympathizers ... just bring a match.
          And the Americans ... This is not the first time I have been married. They had, for example, Saigon. We got up, shook ourselves off, and made a otvetka in Afghanistan. As if now, behind a curtain of tossed caps, the next byaka from the United States is not to be missed.
          1. +1
            6 September 2021 13: 34
            They made fun of the florists from the barmaley!
            1. +3
              6 September 2021 13: 36
              Quote: ASAD
              They made fun of the florists from the barmaley!

              Yes, this meme is so popular now.
          2. 0
            6 September 2021 13: 53
            The war in Afghanistan will actually freeze or decline greatly. And this means that a huge number of militants and mercenaries from all over the world will greatly diminish the "front of work" there. They do not know how and do not want anything else. Since most are convinced Wahhabis. It is clear that the expansion to the north is the best option for them. Not treacherously across the border, of course. And under the guise of refugees or mountain trails / passes. And then money, weapons, explosives will go to local cells. The people there hate the authorities. You can ask Tajiks in Russia why they left there.
        2. +1
          6 September 2021 13: 49
          You forgot to add (I checked it personally and more than once) that Tajik migrant workers in Russia hate Rakhmon and their power. They say that he is a dictator and he lives with his entourage. And we have to go for three nine lands to earn money. So it is unlikely that the local population in these republics will support their regimes, and even more so will go to fight for them.
          It should also be noted that among the Taliban over the past 15-10 years, there are a lot of CIS citizens - the very Tajiks, Turkmen, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz. They have been fighting there for a long time, the Taliban consider them their own and trust a variety of military operations. Now one such unit (with Tajik passports) stands at the Tajik border and guards it. And on the other side of the border, their Islamists are hiding in the mountains and are waiting for everything they need to be transferred from Afghanistan.
          Already now, fundamentalists, recruiters and emissaries are marching all over Central Asia. They will excite the youth to jihad. There will be many supporters.
          Yes, and Russia has not offered these republics anything intelligible for 30 years. They are simply suffocating from poverty, corruption, unemployment and nepotism.
          1. +3
            6 September 2021 15: 07
            Quote: Osipov9391
            You forgot to add

            Then I would have to write a large detailed article.
            The cells of these cheerful, bearded guys are scattered all over Russia - in all mosques and brigades of guest workers, therefore, after the completion of business in Panjshir, they will blow up the SA. And without external intervention, the regimes will not survive for two weeks. And then - jihad to the North.
            But the Russian authorities are strenuously importing hundreds of thousands of new migrants and guest workers into the country under various pretexts - "labor is cheaper!"
            It will definitely be fun.
            But apparently not for us.
            1. +4
              6 September 2021 15: 14
              The most interesting thing is that it is hardest for Russian, legal migrants. There were 2 programmers with an Uzbek passport, so I and they were worn out with official registration. And one of them is Russian, blond with regular facial features, like from Nazi posters)
              1. +5
                6 September 2021 15: 18
                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                The most interesting thing is that it is hardest for Russian, legal migrants.

                So the power in the Russian Federation is by no means Russian, but quite the opposite. According to their logic, everything is correct.
            2. 0
              6 September 2021 23: 57
              The Taliban are not the worst. Al Qaeda and IS are already in northern Afghanistan. There are many warlords from Syria there. They are negotiating with the Taliban. But now, apparently, the latest resistance is being suppressed. It will be necessary to scare the people a little further so that they do not speak (and he is tired of the Americans). Although a certain proportion is loyal to the Taliban.
              And now the Taliban have their own combat aircraft. In total, there are more weapons and military equipment than in all the republics of Central Asia. I think such horrors will lead us that we will not get over the grief.
              in Chechnya and Dagestan should we expect them to appear? Local security officials said that Wahhabism and terrorism in the republics of the Caucasus were crushed.
              1. +1
                7 September 2021 00: 33
                Quote: Osipov9391
                in Chechnya and Dagestan should we expect them to appear? Local security officials said that Wahhabism and terrorism in the republics of the Caucasus were crushed.

                Wahhabism, all the more organized, is by no means a homegrown phenomenon. He was cultivated and continues to cultivate cadres and make plans in MI6, the CIA, and the Turkish special services. It is a tool, but an independent ideology. And if the SA explodes, then one should expect activation in the Caucasus - these vessels are communicating.
                1. 0
                  7 September 2021 03: 13
                  And if we assume that the Taliban will not agree with IS and Al-Qaeda and ask them to leave (they will begin to oust them) so that they are not considered terrorists in the world, then where will these bearded men move from the North of Afghanistan? Even if the Taliban ask them. The path of their expansion is only CA? The Uzbeks somehow guarded the border. For the Turkmens and Tajiks, it is purely conditional due to its great length. In the mountains on the border with Tajikistan, their "partisans" are hiding on which Rakhmon's people are hunting. But the Taliban are already issuing ultimatums to the Uzbeks so that they can give out planes, the fled military and officials.
                  And what if a couple of suicide bombers are sent to Tashkent or Khorog like this?
                  1. +1
                    7 September 2021 11: 15
                    We have already reached an agreement with al-Qaeda - the militants of this structure have already stormed, and now they are continuing to clean up the Pandsher.
                    Another thing is that Karzai is also a member of the Council of 12, as well as the Taliban have already stated that China will be a priority in their foreign policy - they need to restore the country, build the economy, and establish foreign trade relations. They can get everything from China, and they have what China is interested in.
                    And in the CA you should wait for the guests. And not on his own initiative, but on a tip and on the orders of MI6, the CIA and Turkish curators.
                    1. 0
                      7 September 2021 23: 50
                      The cleansing of Pandshera is being carried out, among other things, by militants from the CIS. There are many Uzbeks and Tajiks. There are even those who are a field commander at the age of 25. One of these (they sort of swore allegiance to IS) is now guarding the border with Tajikistan. And the video has long promised to bring jihad there. And there mountain paths and passes are almost unprotected. Local Islamists are hiding.
                      One thing I can't understand is why the US brought hundreds of MANPADS sets to Afghanistan and left them there. Allegedly, the Afghan army was blown away. But the Taliban had no aviation. So the tasks were different? And where are these MANPADS going to fire now? Is it not our planes and helicopters from Kant?
                      Nl our authorities have not thought about anything for 20 years. These deputies, governors, senators, etc. They are generally not responsible for anything. Only Ramzan periodically spoke about the threat from Afghanistan according to his intelligence.
                      1. +1
                        8 September 2021 00: 27
                        In 2013, with the republics of Central Asia, they agreed to create a consolidated CSTO corps as part of Russian and Asian brigades. Weapons and equipment were to be provided by Russia. Just for stopping threats from the south. then the war in Ukraine crumpled everything and the program was postponed. Now is the time to revive the project.
                        And it is very good that right now the Russian Federation has attack drones capable of loitering in the area for a long time. There now need to keep several such squadrons.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        One thing I can’t understand is why the US brought hundreds of MANPADS sets to Afghanistan and left them there. Allegedly, the Afghan army was blown away.

                        They went to great lengths for our Aerospace Forces and the Chinese Air Force. All this American flight is a crazy circus. Cover game.
                        But if you tackle the issue competently, then just this aggravation can become an incentive for the creation of a real military-political union based on the CSTO and the Eurasian Union.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        But our authorities have not thought about anything for all 20 years. These deputies, governors, senators, etc. They are generally not responsible for anything.

                        In our country, no one bears responsibility at all - a tradition and a rule since 1991, and the Kremlin has many towers. Swan, crayfish and pike will be jealous of diversity.
            3. 0
              7 September 2021 00: 07
              And external support for these dictators from Russia can further increase popular discontent there and further fuel local militants. If the nations hate them. Azerbaijan has essentially turned into a Turkish colony and we swallowed it. I think we'll swallow this too. True, Turkmenistan (if it falls) is just a stone's throw from Astrakhan and the Caucasus ...
              1. +1
                7 September 2021 00: 40
                The threat is obviously realized - our military specialists have left for the SA, joint exercises are being conducted ... but if there is only material (and military) assistance, without taking into account the ideology and work with the local population, then the poor population, angry with the local bays, can sweep them along with the Taliban ...
                I had an acquaintance - a very good specialist in Central Asia ... unfortunately he has not been for the first year ... but I would like to discuss these issues with such a competent person ...
                A cat of competence, efficiency, decisiveness and flexibility of the Russian Federation's actions in this direction now depends a lot - there is no more time for relaxed contemplation. But we will soon see how prepared the Russian Federation is for such challenges.
                ... If the Kremlin had plans to restore the USSR / Russia within its former borders, had an ideology and personnel for this ... but in the Kremlin sits ... what sits.
                1. 0
                  7 September 2021 03: 19
                  That is, we had 20 years of American presence in Afghanistan to analyze the information and develop all possible plans after the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan and the possible coming to power of the Taliban? And the bases in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan also tried to squeeze out more than once local bosses. The Uzbeks left the CSTO altogether. The Turkmen are not there. Although none of them saw a threat from Afghanistan. We thought the United States would be there forever or break the back of the Taliban.
                  1. +1
                    7 September 2021 11: 34
                    Quote: Osipov9391
                    That is, we had 20 years of American presence in Afghanistan.

                    Quote: Osipov9391
                    We thought the United States would be there forever or break the back of the Taliban.

                    They were told not to think about anything, they did not think.
                    It is easy to live without thinking when teams come from outside, and you have only executive and representative functions. The administration of the Russian Federation "fit into the market", got used to partnerships ... Business in general did not think about such things (and it was he who made most of the decisions) - it has an offshore registration.
                    Whoever was supposed to think, kept their finger on the pulse, had contacts. Only when ISIS and Al-Qaeda were taken there by the thousands, things became a little more complicated.
                    The Anglo-Saxons need chaos and they will initiate it by simply changing the form of containment.
                    They need a break, they are overstrained again. Therefore, they want to repeat the post-Vietnamese feint, when, having left (by agreement with the USSR) from Vietnam, they organized Afghanistan for us 4 years later. In this case, a mine was planted not only for us, but also for China and Iran. And even talented political scientists are beginning to realize that it is too early to rejoice and throw caps into the air. Everything is just beginning for us.
                    1. 0
                      8 September 2021 00: 18
                      Will the West recognize these parliamentary elections in Russia now? After all, all over the country, they actually bribed some of the voters (pensioners and security officials) who, as a rule, voted in opposition for the "Reds" in the majority. Now, many will vote for the power that they say something fell to us, here are 10 thousand, here are 15 thousand. Putin is great, ER is great, and so on.
                      But this money was not given last year or in the spring. And right before the elections.
                      In the West, this is also analyzed by everyone.
                      And if the elections are not recognized, then in parliament there will be not deputies but impostors who will not be able to ratify any international agreement and will fall under sanctions?
                      1. +1
                        8 September 2021 01: 38
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        Will the West recognize these parliamentary elections in Russia now?

                        It doesn't matter at all. After the American circus with their elections, when everything was SO MUCH scandalous and sewn with white thread that it is not even worth commenting on. Is the West going to confrontation? It's his choice .
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        But this money was not given last year or in the spring. And right before the elections.

                        And in the United States, they promised and handed out American passports, legalized a huge number (millions) of migrants, handed out benefits to them, handed out money to blacks to organize riots and robberies ...
                        What is the reason not to recognize their elections as invalid?
                        After all, we can answer the same, albeit with a delay of a year?
                        "Democratic elections" are always circus and performance, voter deception and rigging.
                        Well, they demonstrated in the USA footage with stuffing and even footage of how FILLED fake bulletins.
                        So what ?
                        After all, even the bulletins themselves were fake!
                        Millions of fake letterheads ordered in China!
                        Trump won several lawsuits in individual states!
                        So what ?!
                        Now the elections are not for the president, but there is still no alternative to the Nucleus.
                        Well, not the party of the "systemic opposition"?
                        It's all exactly the same.
                        So if there is anything surprising during the elections, it will be the turnout.
                        But according to the legislation of the Russian Federation, this also does not matter - you do not vote, it means that you agree with everything.
                        But the fact that after the elections they will try to push the masses into disorder is not even discussed. They will definitely push.
                        And they will give money for it.
                        And the admin resource of the 5th and 6th columns will be involved.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        In the West, this is also analyzed by everyone.

                        Yes And they are getting ready.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        And if the elections are not recognized, then in parliament there will be not deputies but impostors who will not be able to ratify any international agreement and will fall under sanctions?

                        "We hear from impostors" is the most natural answer.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        and will be subject to sanctions

                        And you do not go to the deputies. lol
                        Well, really, it's funny. Do you really think that it is in the US and the EU that the authorities in the Russian Federation assert the legitimacy?
                        A WINTER BLI-IZKO. Yes bully
                        And how can they be there - in the EU without gas, will we impose sanctions on us?
                        Do you just think the prices in Europe and the world have skyrocketed?
                        Are gas storages half empty on the eve of the heating season?
                        And the Russian Federation is in no hurry to replenish them - we had an accident at the gas processing plant, the pipes were repaired / prevented, they decided to fill OUR GAS STORAGES TO THE EDGE. And until we fill it - not a cube of gas over and above ordinary supplies.
                        Do you want sanctions?
                        The elections were not recognized?
                        Here's a gas for $ 1000 or more. Yes
                        I think it will be higher if the circus is arranged for us.
                        War?
                        She has been a mother to someone for a long time.
                        Europe will dare to burn its peninsula to ashes?
                        Here everything depends on the strength of the genitals. The Russian Federation will show firmness - and Europe will freeze out and the economy will collapse.
                        Does she need it?
                        These are her problems.
                        Behind her and decisions.
                        What will happen to the USA?
                        Anything can happen.
                        If cold weather will happen again ... wind turbines will freeze ... gas and oil pipelines will freeze ... supplies of fuel oil from the Russian Federation will stop ... supplies of titanium and nuclear fuel ...
                        And ???
                        Will they arrange for us an Afghan circus from the south?
                        And not just us?
                        And who, then, will vouch for the security of American military bases in the Middle East?
                        The Shiite militia can, after all, also ... "from Afghanistan" and "Stingers", and ATURA receive ... And rocket homemade products will suddenly turn out to be very thick and surprisingly accurate ...
                        And what if the Russian Federation, China and Iran decide that the Taliban are the Americans who are armed against us all?
                        BUT ?
                        Is the internal political situation in the United States so stable?
                        Doesn't it smell like civil war?
                        Doesn't everything fluctuate on the verge of complete chaos and general rebellion?
                        There blacks suddenly became peaceful and law-abiding?
                        They don't want to rob white Americans anymore?
                        Trump supporters have come to terms with homosexuals, an influx of migrants, economic chaos, political defeats of the new administration?
                        And what if some of the external players support (behind the scenes) one of the parties.
                        Someone with a lot of money, a powerful economy, but not enough fleet yet?
                        And the one who is now rapidly building positional areas for ICBMs?
                        For many hundreds of rockets?
                        And on each missile with 6 to 10 warheads?
                        bully
                        Have you noticed how China has changed its tone?
                        The Chinese built their state according to the works of not only Mao, but also Stalin. And judging by their latest gestures, they have almost a pre-war mobilization of all state structures there.
                        In the mid-70s, the USSR spared the United States, although it could easily finish them off.
                        Is it worth sparing now?
                      2. 0
                        8 September 2021 02: 19
                        And the fact that the local elections are attended by people who by the age of 35 have not worked a single day and have not created families is this normal? These are all parties in principle. Well, parents gave them (read the same authorities) gas stations and shops. And this is how they live.
                        And if you dig deeper into their biography, it turns out that their diplomas are often bought. And such people become deputies, ministers, leaders. They teach gray-haired professors how to live properly and spend budget money. And they shower themselves with huge prizes.
                      3. 0
                        8 September 2021 02: 42
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        And the fact that the local elections are attended by people who by the age of 35 have not worked a single day and have not created families is this normal?

                        Is it normal that by the age of 35 you have not worked anywhere?
                        Or did they not start families?
                        Or is it not normal to go to the polls?
                        If they were supported by their parents, given a business, apartments, cars ... well, they were lucky with their parents ... and not lucky with their upbringing.
                        That you didn't get married?
                        If women are so accessible today and life is unbearable from the ease of being ... then this is their way ...
                        And the fact that they go to the polls, so ... from the age of 18 they could go to them.
                        Or just got together now?
                        Over the past 30 years, we have formed and have already bronzed a socio-parasitic society of the feudal-slave-owning type.
                        Do you think this is unfair?
                        So do I .
                        But the citizens of the former Great Country missed their chance exactly 30 years ago.
                        The old society was just and guaranteed equal rights, access to education and health services.
                        Is free .
                        Moreover, students were also paid state scholarships.
                        Everyone.

                        But the "chosen part" is now good.
                        Very good .
                        And for its "GOOD" this part will fight with all its strength and capabilities.
                        The concept of the people has almost disappeared.
                        But will the population fight for their rights, will they be able to organize, structure themselves, single out leaders from their midst and bring them to power ...
                        I leave this question to you.
                      4. 0
                        8 September 2021 03: 17
                        Here, for example, how people manage and organize, I can show any SNT - a dacha cooperative. Governs through the assembly and the chairman elected without any cronyism. Some of the sites have been abandoned for decades. Some of the members do not pay dues and no one does anything about it. And everything else is like that.
                        In the neighboring area, there was a criminal case against the chairman of fraud because he was selling these most abandoned plots when, according to the charter, he was obliged to issue them free of charge.
                        But the power has spoiled the person. Once in power (and in fact he did not have it - there are no such powers in the law and the charter, he is not even an official), he immediately took up his own selfish interests and robbing those who did not have to pay anything for the land. That's what the charter is, that's what the law is for.
                      5. 0
                        8 September 2021 04: 03
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        Here, for example, how people manage and organize, I can show any SNT - a dacha cooperative. Governs through the assembly and the chairman elected without any cronyism.

                        This is called conciliarity.
                        And the fact that the elected member of the community began to abuse and violated the charter, so the Assembly has the right and power to re-elect it.
                        And then file a lawsuit for fraud.
                        If he himself does not repent and does not compensate for the damage.

                        It all depends on the inner culture of the society.
                        And his maturity.
                        And passionarity.
                      6. 0
                        8 September 2021 04: 12
                        The fact of the matter is that the congregation has the right and power, but not the obligation!
                        People don't care about that. They did not want to spoil the relationship with him.
                        Or they feared that the southerners would become the chairman and a hotel for migrants
                        on these lands will build. It would be even worse. They think so.
                        Well, we have no order.
                      7. +1
                        8 September 2021 04: 57
                        So let the Assembly choose the Council from a number of trusted shareholders / members, and let them supervise the actions of the chairman and endorse his decision. There will already be some kind of insurance - either everyone must agree (the chairman and members of the Council) for illegal actions, or the chairman will have to do everything according to the rules.
                        By the way - selling empty plots / allocating plots for money is not such a bad idea. If the money goes not into a private pocket, but for the improvement of SNT ... Organize lighting there, put asphalt, conduct water, organize video surveillance ... etc.
        3. 0
          6 September 2021 23: 52
          Quote: bayard
          They left Afghanistan for a reason

          I fully agree with the conclusions of Bayard's colleague. But a couple of remarks about.
          1. Strange as it may seem, it was beneficial for us that the Yankees continued to poke around in Afghanistan. They were heavily spent on the presence in Afghanistan. According to Sleeping Joe - spent $ 300 million daily for 20 years! And secondly, the forces in this direction were connected. We lost 2000 of our fighters from the Taliban.
          2. Now the States have left Afghanistan, shamefully, under the hooting of the world media.
          BUT! They left the Taliban with weapons for 85-90 lard. They released all ISIS members from prisons and everything so that these thugs set fire to our Central Asian states bordering with us - the former republics of the Union. And given that we do not have a visa regime with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, this evil spirits very soon (through the efforts of MI6 and the CIA) with "clean" ksivs will end up in our cities under the guise of "guest workers". These will be dormant terrorist cells that will be loaded to us according to the Trojan Horse concept.
          3. We will have to multiply our Central Asian borders, and even support our CSTO partners with our contingent.
          Therefore, the Americans made a very smart move, shifting this crap on to the Taliban and freeing their hands for dirty tricks on us and the whales too.
          And, taking this opportunity, I will allow myself to "cough up" the author's dubious statement:
          What is being built in China today is somewhat different from what Marx, Engels and Lenin dreamed of, although it is a completely viable cocktail of communist ideas, state control and ordinary private business.
          Marx and Engels agree. But the late Lenin, considering the NEP, differently presented the prospects of the young Soviet republic. In essence, the CPC is currently implementing the Leninist NEP.
          AHA.
          1. +2
            7 September 2021 00: 28
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            ... And given that we do not have a visa regime with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, this evil spirits very soon (through the efforts of MI6 and the CIA) with "clean" ksivs will end up in our cities under the guise of "guest workers". These will be dormant terrorist cells that will be loaded to us according to the Trojan Horse concept.

            Quite right, I also wrote about this in other comments. So this feint (leaving Afghanistan) is not a weakness, but a regrouping of forces with a radicalization of the methods of "containment" of the Russian Federation, China and Iran, while they intend to strengthen direct "containment" of Russia in the European theater of operations. And Ukraine will play an important role here. Now I think both financial and material resources will flow in much larger volumes.
            So it is necessary to eliminate the "Ukrainian problem" as soon as possible, and forever. The chance was missed in 2014, and if you miss this - the last chance, it may be too late. There is absolutely no reason for complacency - the Russian Army is small in number, the rearmament was carried out "crookedly" and not balanced, the combat strength of the Aerospace Forces is extremely limited and insufficient, there are no means of controlling the war in the air (AWACS aircraft). So to overwhelm NATO with "one left" will not work even despite their women defense ministers, rampant tolerance and lack of combat stability in the troops.
            When the number of your Land Forces is 280 people. + Airborne Forces, and this is for the whole Bezkrainaya ... what kind of war can we even talk about?
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Marx and Engels agree. But the late Lenin, considering the NEP, differently presented the prospects of the young Soviet republic. In essence, the CPC is currently implementing the Leninist NEP.

            Since the 50s and 60s, the CPC has been implementing the Stalinist model of the state.
            With Chinese characteristics.
            And the Stalinist model of socialism implied a wide variety of forms of ownership. From personal / individual activities and small cooperatives, to large factories, factories and even design bureaus on a cooperative basis.
            Almost all furniture, radio equipment, televisions, sewing and shoe production, catering were produced by cooperatives. And hairdressers, shoe workshops, milliners - seamstresses at home, etc. - by private owners.
            And this was welcomed and encouraged by the state, incl. loans and government orders.
            KB Mil and Kamov began as design cooperatives, and only Khrushchev destroyed all this synergy, turning the USSR into a totalitarian (in terms of economic freedom) state. The shortage and low quality of consumer goods, I think you remember well ... but I remember the excellent (incomparable) quality of cooperative furniture from parents and grandfather, in comparison with the later factory consumer goods ...
            In China, this experience was taken into account and the economy was studied ... and they are studying (!) On the basis of Stalin's works.
            And they associate all their successes precisely with the scientific and theoretical legacy of Stalin ... and the Chinese hard work.
            hi
      3. 0
        6 September 2021 15: 24
        Quote: Cool but not Igor
        The Americans will not go anywhere, they are specially regrouping their forces to put pressure on Russia and China.

        Yes, and with the communist idea, not everything is as simple as the author writes:
        the communist idea, which had long been a counterweight to the American system of democracy, has died. What is being built in China today is somewhat different from what Marx, Engels and Lenin dreamed of,

        The communist idea was a counterbalance not only to the American system, but to the entire Western capitalist and feudal-tribal Asian-African system.
        And it’s very interesting how the author came to the conclusion that she “died”?

        And about what "Marx, Engels and Lenin dreamed about", then you first read them and you will see that they had a very vague idea of ​​the future communist society... All their ideas are either some completely left-wing fantasies (as in Lenin's work "State and Revolution"), or fantasies "by contradiction", that is, communism as "NOT capitalism".
        They were more concerned with identifying and analyzing the shortcomings of capitalism, as well as developing methods to overthrow the capitalist system.
        They lack the development of a truly communist society as a serious detailed project. This manifested itself very well in the first decades of Soviet power - all this shyness from war communism, the abolition of money, etc. fantasies before the New Economic Policy with private property. Until Stalin pushed aside the theoreticians-revolutionaries and started PRACTICAL state-building, complete madness was going on. And then they did not immediately find any working forms of the state.
        Well, after Stalin, there was simply no talk of building a new society - the elite began to drain the country to the West.
      4. 0
        6 September 2021 19: 08
        Cool but not Igor (Roman), Today, 05:18, NEW - "... The Americans will not go anywhere, they are specially regrouping their forces to put pressure on Russia and China. I think support for Ukraine and Georgia will be increased, as well as for the entire western direction ..."

        You are right about all 100% hi . Strategy and tactics will change - sWhy climb behind the chestnuts ourselves, losing strength and resources. Enough to manage the process bully , and NATO partners, the same competitors (dollar-euro) only in the inner circle. belay ..
        ТThe theory of a shining city on a hill or island ...the tools remain to be changed. lol ..The audience's delight about "The USA screwed up", a smoke cover, for for a sudden .... "Do you feel the finger ?! belay ." These guys just don't do anything someone will say about BT for billions... and 300 thousand army of the former Afghan regime. By the way, a counter question, according to Saddam Hussein's army, a large part of IT ended up with ISIS. (Lavrov recalled how the officers of Saddam Hussein's army ended up in the ranks of IS * - 15:14 02.10.2019 - https://ria.ru/20191002/1559359630.html). Including nothing the US has done "just SO."

        We look at the map and ... immediately PLEASURE to form a BIG problem for the Russian Federation, China and other countries .. recourse
        In short - Whoever owns the Heartland owns the world ...
        - Heartland is English. The middle, or core, earth. Center, the main massif of the world land.Heartland almost one to one coincides with the borders of the Russian Empire, or the USSR. belay Afghanistan, a very important element in this strategy of "solving" ITS issues by "PARTNERS" (USA + England) bully ... Whoever owns the Heartland owns the world. From the territory of the Heartland, you can dictate your will to all continental countries. This was not my idea, but Western geopolitical scientists. hi
        T.ch. The western border of the Russian Federation and the Heartland, as a point add. supports, for a hard impact on especially the RF, DO NOT CARRY democracy, but manage the process for YOUR benefit. Remember the almost forgotten words of Blinkin ... bully
  2. 0
    6 September 2021 04: 26
    The United States will leave the world political arena forever.
    Instead, Russia will become the hegemon.
    Then the ruble will gain strength and become more expensive than gold.
    And the Russian language will be taught in many schools around the world without fail.

    And they will create an earthly paradise in Russia where many peoples will come.
    1. +2
      6 September 2021 06: 19
      And why does Russia need this? When and where did our country voice this, or at least hint?)
      1. -3
        6 September 2021 07: 17
        Everyone who votes for EdRo dreams about it.
        1. +1
          6 September 2021 08: 40
          Did you dream about it after Friday night?)))
          1. -3
            6 September 2021 09: 29
            That's how we live.
  3. +2
    6 September 2021 04: 28
    "We are still better, more progressive, more elite and stronger than everyone else."
    Another chosen people of God?
    1. +2
      6 September 2021 05: 39
      Yeah. Only God that they are "chosen by God" does not know anything. laughing
    2. +1
      6 September 2021 06: 34
      Well, some of them feel that way, it started from the English colonization of North America, when the indigenous population was sick from illness, and they saw in this the "divine destiny" by which they were given a new land.
  4. +3
    6 September 2021 05: 17
    ... "We are still better, more progressive, more chosen and stronger than everyone else" ...
    Lord, delirium at the level of paranoia! And they really believe in it.
    And it is simply not clever and embarrassing to declare this from the high rostrum to the head of state.
  5. 0
    6 September 2021 05: 30
    "You can't wash a black dog white." This is how evil should be treated. And to be different from him. Whether there will be an Afghan syndrome in America, I do not know. But many Americans saw the shame in Kabul. Now they will rule against China. And the battle for Taiwan will be the last and decisive ...
  6. +3
    6 September 2021 05: 53
    USA in the world is an elephant in a china shop.
  7. +2
    6 September 2021 06: 15
    [quoteHowever, stroking the barrels of machine guns, the Americans explained to the Afghans that the shah / king is very bad. We need democratic elections. Who needs it is not entirely clear, but it is very necessary. You just can't do without them.] [/ Quote]

    It is relevant not only for Afghanistan, but for the whole world where there are "US national interests."
    It is useless to catch American politicians at their word. The country of preachers knows how to professionally convince the "electorates" of any lies.
    As Kiev and Mosul have shown, "human rights" and "democratic elections" are simply an instrument of US policy to neutralize local elites. Both are just a farce!
    Americans are used to pushing dissidents: "our money is your blood." There were few of them in Afghanistan. The omnipotent media here turned out to be powerless over the authority of traditions. The drug turned out to be a stronger currency than the dollar.
  8. -6
    6 September 2021 06: 28
    The raison d'être of the United States is its "exclusivity", for a long time they will spoil the air all over the world.
  9. +6
    6 September 2021 06: 50
    The main loss for the United States is not Afghanistan, but China. They raised him, raised him and raised him!
    On your head. laughing
  10. 0
    6 September 2021 06: 55
    The "melting pot" in the United States itself did not melt people down. The population is a patchwork gathering.
    1. 0
      6 September 2021 09: 40
      As far as I know, they seem to have already turned off the melting pot. Now there is so-called multiculturalism. Or am I confusing it with Europe?
      1. 0
        7 September 2021 19: 54
        They can have anything. The next president will be at once an ancient ukry with an Afro- ... divinely-chosen appearance. Here are just the indigenous people spread rot.
        1. 0
          8 September 2021 05: 19
          There, everyone who does not have sufficient amounts of money, high position and connections is spreading rot. However, as elsewhere. I could be wrong, of course, but the indigenous population gets it, among other things, from the fact that it seems to be claiming land. And land is too good an asset that has long been mastered.
  11. -1
    6 September 2021 07: 17
    They will never leave! The war machine needs violence and new victims! It was not for this that the vile offspring of the old world enslaved the Indians of North America, so that the next generations of decent people would grow from colonists, swindlers, philanthropists, adventurous and enterprising businessmen, murderers, and criminals? Never! A parasitic consumer society, with a huge number of PRISONS and military BASs on the territory of other states will never refuse to impose their crap on other states and peoples! As long as capitalism and a huge amount of money exist, never! Be cursed forever and ever !!!
  12. +4
    6 September 2021 07: 27
    According to what I read from American analysts, America has long been preparing to leave the role of the "gendarme" of the world.
    Brzezinski wrote about this for a long time, the message seems to be like this:
    After the Second World War, America became, as it were, the guarantor of international order, providing countries with its financial system and military support where necessary, at this stage they actively intervened everywhere, after the collapse of the USSR they no longer had a competitor and began to leave the world a little bit because they already had the financial system and economy were established all over the world practically and there was no longer a threat.
    In this situation, they no longer need costly military operations around the world, since the world is almost completely under control and they themselves already have a lot of resources so as not to fight for them, so they retreat and leave the territory to countries that will simply trade with them.
    China is a side effect in their plans, but it is easier for them to leave this cargo to Russia since Russia borders on China, Americans expect that this will be our problem, in extreme cases, Americans can make concessions and cooperate with Russia against China.
    This is not my analysis, this is a short retelling of what American analysts write about these events.
    I was surprised that already 25 years ago they were planning the possibility of such a development of events.
    1. +3
      6 September 2021 11: 00
      I was surprised that already 25 years ago they were planning the possibility of such a development of events.


      Dear colleague, I was not surprised.
      Analyzing the political behavior of the United States in the international arena, everyone somehow forgets two things.
      1. On the territory of the United States, there is a huge number of analytical institutions in which sickly minds work. In addition, the United States uses the developments of analytical institutions in many countries of the world and, thanks to this, keeps its finger on the pulse of the entire planet.
      2. The economy of the Earth has long entered the fifth technological redistribution, the top of which is the creation and training of artificial intelligence. But our everyday consciousness is not able to appreciate the frightening power of this type of weapon.

      It is from these two points that we must proceed.
      I think Biden made his statement for a reason, not because the policy of large-scale intervention here and there was too ruinous for the United States. But because it has already developed and is ready to use some other, much more economically profitable plan to bring international politics to a form that meets the US craving for hegemony as a political constant.
      I believe that a tool for stable support of the US hegemonicity based on analytics and scientific and technological achievements of the fifth technological redistribution, supported by now infrequent pinpoint threats of a military nature and political pressure, has already been created and put into action. We just don't see it. But the fact that we do not see something does not mean that this something does not exist.
      For example, it will seem to us that the United States is shamefully leaving somewhere, we will gloat and raise our hands victoriously: "The United States has lost!"
      But is there any reason for joy? Just imagine what exactly in the person of the Taliban they left all of Eurasia. They left exactly when a disgusting instrument for destabilizing all countries adjacent to Afghanistan, and even distant ones, was created and sharpened to the point.
      Moreover, I even admit that the alleged "shameful flight" of the West from Afghanistan is a well-played scenario. Like, if someone from the surrounding countries suffers from the actions of the Taliban, then we have nothing to do with it. Like, you saw how hastily, in what horror we, the West, fled - we changed our clothes in burqas!
      This did not deceive me in the least. I even admit that among the Taliban there are many cadre US intelligence officers. Who will pursue the US policy in relation to one or another nearby or distant country - where the US will point and reach! The point of destabilization and exsanguination of a huge region has been successfully created and, based on the mentality of the Vfgan people, is long-term. A point that will now require much less funds from the United States for its maintenance than for the maintenance of American troops there. And much more investments in the protection of borders, internal order and political stability will require this point from all surrounding countries. And the "good" USA may well come to the aid of the sufferers, strengthening its presence where they had not previously stood.
      This is just an example.
      I believe that a combination of human and artificial intelligence will solve such problems without the use of military force at all. Let's say what needs to be done so that country A unleashes a bloody war with country B and thereby plunges the entire developed region into a medieval state. And it may turn out that for this it is enough to start a forest fire somewhere on the border, or several politically charged terrorist acts in both countries, or to expose some long-forgotten contradictions with the help of agents. There are many ways to destabilize! And they are much cheaper than bringing in troops. And democracy ... This is an old tool, put on the far shelf of the warehouse. Maybe someday it will come in handy.
      1. +4
        6 September 2021 11: 06
        Quote: depressant
        I even admit that among the Taliban there are many cadre US intelligence officers.

        The entire top of the Taliban is recruited by the United States. They are all from Guantanamo. From such places it is not so easy to leave. And the fact that the US withdrawal from Afghanistan was a spectacle is more than obvious. The United States always bets on the winner, the "pro-American" government has never been able to become the real rulers of Afghanistan. So why work with losers?
      2. +3
        6 September 2021 11: 41
        Quote: depressant
        But because it has already developed and is ready to use some other, much more economically profitable plan to bring international politics to a form that meets the US craving for hegemony as a political constant.

        They go to work on a "franchise". They give the territory under the control of their satellites, dividing so that there would be no strengthening of one of them. They are seriously investing in the British-Turkish Union, as I understand they are assigned a leading role in the Islamic world, as opposed to the French-UAE group.
        A classic example of Libya, on the one hand, the British-Turkish Union and the official government completely dependent on the United States, on the other hand, an open CIA agent and US citizen Haftar supported by France and the UAE. On both sides, the US satellites, any victory, their victory, the main thing is that there is no single state defending the interests of the citizens of Libya.
  13. -10
    6 September 2021 07: 36
    Whoever sent the United States: S. Korea, Venezuela, Myanmar ... China.
    So the Afghans sent it specifically. The hegemon was blown away. The United States is becoming a regional power torn to shreds into small states, and dreamed of tearing us apart ... Looks like they do not know our proverbs: "Don't dig a hole for others, you will get there yourself."

    The World Control Center, according to the "backstage" idea, moves from the USA to China, from England to Iran. Everything would be smooth for them, but Russia is like a bone in the throat, we do not fit into their plans ...
  14. +8
    6 September 2021 09: 00
    The United States has one problem minus - Afghanistan.
    The Russian Federation and its Central Asian allies, the PRC, have one problem - Afghanistan.
    Therefore, I do not really understand the wild euphoria in many media outlets about the departure of the Americans.
    The United States will print more money as needed. The guys in camouflage will be transferred closer to the main rivals, primarily in Southeast Asia.
    The game continues...
    It turns out that Biden's words are so, words.

    Others are active: Newport News Shipbuilding and Lockheed Martin ...
    1. +4
      6 September 2021 10: 07
      The United States has one problem minus - Afghanistan.
      The Russian Federation and its Central Asian allies, the PRC, have one problem - Afghanistan.
      Therefore, I do not really understand the wild euphoria in many media outlets about the departure of the Americans.

      Because they can't see beyond their nose. Won (like wink ) an Islamic state in Syria, and in Afghanistan, it came to power. And they are not going to stop.

      This is how they see their state (at least):
      1. 0
        6 September 2021 10: 47
        Quote: Arzt
        Because they can't see beyond their nose.

        That's right.
        It seems that all of Turkey, the states of Central Asia and part of the Balkans too
        Quote: Arzt
        This is how they see their state (at least):
  15. 0
    6 September 2021 09: 00
    Smoldering conflicts around the world exist regardless of the United States, a clear example of the conflict in Karabakh, as soon as the Americans withdrew politically due to Trump's policies and the eve of the new presidential elections, the conflict erupted with renewed vigor and Russia had to become a stabilizing force, which took the maintenance costs their troops, helping tens of thousands of refugees for many years. These are colossal expenses for Russia, which Russia involuntarily took upon itself and this is only one smoldering conflict. With its power and factor of presence, the United States has stabilized the situation in the world, and of course not without its own benefit, but this is a bonus that, by right, it is a sin not to use it. Remember the sacramental statement of Putin, I quote: the world needs a country like the United States ...
  16. +1
    6 September 2021 09: 06
    The United States does not necessarily have to control any state. It is enough to control his elite. What they are doing with success. Where they try to keep control entirely, a bummer occurs. Except for countries where human life is highly valued: Germany, Japan, South Korea.
  17. 0
    6 September 2021 09: 24
    Biden with a baidan, but the rest is a story about a fox and grapes.
    We also left there, killed a bunch of people there, Amin, their king, and so on.
    means....

    "In general, it would be worth recalling the historical facts. Afghanistan is a territory where war is constantly going on. Three Anglo-Afghan wars, civil wars, in which, in turn, the USSR and then the United States got involved."

    So far, no one has succeeded in civilizing the Afghans. And this is normal for such a country. War is a normal state of affairs for Afghanistan, where the overwhelming majority of the people know nothing else but how to fight. "

    The fact that "Three Anglo-Afghan wars" were under 200 years ago, wars are almost less listed than ours, somehow they lived in between wars, the author is not interested ...

    grapes are unripe ...
    1. +3
      6 September 2021 09: 38
      Yes, the announcement of constant wars in Afghanistan also caused surprise. And a statement about the alleged attempts to democratize Afghanistan. It feels like the respected author really believes that the Americans had something to do with democracy in Afghanistan and some kind of LGBT rights there.
  18. +1
    6 September 2021 10: 14
    Nobody will go anywhere. The Yankees fight on printing green papers, and those who do not fully understand their happiness are convinced: the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency, if a comrade does not give in, then PMCs, drones come, and, if completely stupid, then B 52 and the Marine Corps If only to allow one of the components to fall out, then problems with the cut paper will begin, for example, among the Saudis, and then no one will stand on ceremony. Afghanistan is a black hole that is easy to climb and very difficult to climb. The point is in the banal corruption of the American establishment, money was dissipated in the pockets of both friends and foes. Afghan rogue, selected as a government, became participants in a mega-corruption scheme that successfully milked the hegemon's budget, but ..... politicians talked too much about the population's fatigue from the war, so they ended, crookedly, askew, but finished. But if the Saudis twitch or the Hans with Japs, then everything will be grown-up, since the empire itself is already at stake.
  19. +4
    6 September 2021 10: 50
    And here the question generally arises: a Do Afghans Need Any Other Peace? This one, with LGBT people, gay rights and so on? The Taliban said "there will be no music." But not all of them, but if you look seriously, if Conchita Wurz is not seen in Afghanistan under the Taliban, who will feel bad from this?


    You might think "some other world" is necessarily LGBT with conchitami ..
    It can be just clean water in the house with the ability to take a bath .. sewerage, air conditioners (they are still hot there) .. 65-inch LCD panels in the bedroom .. well, the bedroom itself, essno .. With a mattress, not from goat skins .. Fresh yogurt in the refrigerator, refrigerator .. and other furniture, and various attributes of the modern world .. Another world for them .. From which few of them would refuse ..

    Shl .. well, and there it would have been possible to get drunk, and lying on a soft bed, think about homosexuality ..))
  20. +4
    6 September 2021 11: 03
    The expression "will leave the world arena" is nothing more than a figure of speech.
    They will not go anywhere. There are still a lot of places in the world where staffers are present in one way or another in full growth, not to mention those where they are present secretly from prying eyes.
    Whether it is good or bad, whether someone likes it or not, these are completely different questions.

    By and large, the maintenance of their military contingent somewhere far away from their homes, even with the supposedly noblest intentions, is a lousy thing. Whoever of the politicians tells us anything. Someday, everyone has to get up, turn 180 degrees and return home. This also requires political will.
    Yes, sometimes you have to bear physical, material and political losses. But you need to stop.

    Someone for various reasons does it himself, someone is put out the door in a uniform way. I will not give historical examples, parallels and analogies.

    Yes, with the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, the world will be a little different. Something will change for the better, and something for the worse. We will see all this with our own eyes, of course, if we try to comply with anti-epidemic instructions. laughing
    In a word, stock up on seeds or popcorn, who loves what more and be sure with patience, since the mills of big politics grind very slowly. hi
  21. 0
    6 September 2021 12: 18
    It's not about whether they leave or not. A turn of events took place, and American-fed bearded bandits, who call themselves the rulers of Sharia law, helped to make it.
    Now even these people despise the Americans. From the moment of the turn of events, all aggressive attempts by the Americans will provoke rejection, armed or otherwise.
    1. +1
      6 September 2021 13: 30
      Let them despise - for breakfast, and for lunch and dinner.
      And 320 million Americans, well, just like a corporal
      Hitler near Paris - in a falling muzzle in blood
      smashed on a hospital bed - daily
      will neither drink nor eat and straight three times a day
      they will fight in hysterics - oh, they despise us!
  22. +1
    6 September 2021 12: 29
    Where will they go from? In military terms, for a while, yes. But financially, 90 percent of all turnover in the world goes through the buck and the euro. What are you talking about?
  23. +1
    6 September 2021 12: 51
    The main goal of the United States is to dominate the world

    It's just that otherwise the United States simply cannot exist as a state.

    What? In fact, until about 1914, and then from 1918 to 1939, the United States was guided by a policy of isolationism and tried not to get involved in European affairs at all.
    A truly semi-occupied country

    Are you talking about Germany? In fact, it is now a prosperous and more than successful democratic state. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with the fact that the Americans forcibly installed a lip-setting mechanism for the German military department. That's absolutely.
  24. +1
    6 September 2021 13: 21
    Quote: Terran Ghost
    The main goal of the United States is to dominate the world

    It's just that otherwise the United States simply cannot exist as a state.


    Are you talking about Germany? .....
    Exactly. Germany, too, had left by 1920 (or rather, she was gone and at the same time stripped down to her panties. And then ka-a-ak returned in 1939 - from Egypt and Tunisia - to Norway and Finland.
    And the raiders already in Australia drowned everything that floated by. Never say .... forever.
  25. -2
    6 September 2021 14: 21
    The situation is much simpler. With military force, the Americans have built their economic dominance. That is, to put it simply, the robbery of the countries of the world is in their own interests. If the projection of American shameless power is weakened, the economy will quack! It was in the 60-70s of the last century that the Americans rushed to gut the world, relying on their profits. Those years have passed ...
    Of course, America is not a phantom economy like ours, when "our" factories and factories generate money and products for those to whom they actually belong. But many decades of robbery cannot fail to turn an employee into a robber. Once upon a time Spain raked out the wealth of an entire continent ... where is Spain now? Where is her dominance? Hehe ...
    But America is not just retreating. America owes the whole world. Colossal money. How to give? Do not give? Relying on the army? Yes, that army is so cool that the "wild highlanders" with its pissing rags ... Ay yay yay, how bad it is! In general, the Americans will soon attack someone. Iran, for example. The fighters from the Americans are famous, so they are instantly pissed off. And then America will use nuclear weapons.
    Yes Yes. That is exactly what they will do. There is simply no other way to demonstrate "American resolve." It is necessary to demonstrate urgently. And then the debts are about to begin to shake ...
  26. 0
    6 September 2021 16: 26
    The United States stands on three legs: military power, industrial potential and a financial pyramid. If you pull out one leg, the country will not stand, there is simply no breakthrough in the other two pillars to compensate for the loss. So the United States will not change, because it is the chaos created by the Pentagon , the reason for the flight of countries into the dollar.
  27. +2
    6 September 2021 18: 17
    Americans do nothing haphazardly and outside of long-term planning. The United States is a deep state, not an old man in the White House.
    So do not relax and sing the funeral mattress mats, a simple example, while we are here rejoicing at a couple of nuclear submarines, they are baked like pies, the PLO forces have been replaced, patrol aircraft have been quietly and calmly updated around the world, etc., etc. ... - the machine is running, the gears are spinning. If, for example, they drew attention to their lag behind a number of our air defense systems, then they immediately pulled up the Jews with their developments and in the end they will give out a more perfect analogue of our S-350 / -400 / -500 to the mountain. On the other hand, seeing that we are marking time with the Su-57, and when we solve all the problems we will not be able to produce them in significant quantities, and the Su-35 is inferior in avionics to their aircraft, in parallel with the F-35, we ordered the F-15E with more advanced avionics, etc. They again increased the grouping of their troops in Europe, increased the staff of more than a dozen bases around the world.
    We should leave the naive reasoning about the decline of the United States ... rather, now there is simply a revision or adjustment within the framework of the existing plans and strategies, the result of which still remains the hegemony of the United States.
  28. +1
    6 September 2021 21: 49
    Of course, how could it be without mentioning LGBT people and Conchita Wurz, as if the main and unnecessary problems of Western values ​​and democracy that other countries with other values, Christian or Islamic, do not matter, are not needed. But if Russia were in the place of the United States, or as the United States would spread its values, and the same Russian world, it would be the same. Rejection and enmity. So the problem is far from LGBT and Konchita Wurz, and therefore also Western values. Savages are savages. They are used to living according to their own rules, and they do not accept anything else. That the countries of the Caucasus (Christians and Islamists) that the countries of Islam (the main Muslims). The same thing in essence. And Russian values ​​are not much higher and better than American and Western ones. The country has no ideology and purpose. And if it did, it would not be better, certainly not like the USSR or the communists. The United States wanted to build globalism and partly cosmopolitanism, but practice has shown that without reformatting the consciousness of the majority, or destroying them, this is impossible.
  29. +2
    6 September 2021 23: 03
    We rejoice early - Uncle Sam just shook the cabbage off his mustache.
  30. 0
    6 September 2021 23: 03
    And where will they go if they have about 800 bases around the world? Really to your continent, to guard the border with Mexico? I suspect not.
    I suppose they will drag all these withdrawn contingents to the western border of Russia. And they will prepare an invasion, just as, in the 40s of the last century, it was done by one, brought to power by the States, a bad character of German-Austrian origin.
  31. +1
    7 September 2021 06: 09
    Well, at one time they fled from Vietnam. So what? Has the USA become weaker after that? The USSR collapsed later, and the United States still lives well. The dollar fell by half after the de-Golew maneuver in the 60s. So what? Falls in two again. There will be no collapse.

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