Insurgents allegedly ambush Taliban in Panjshir gorge

After the rapid seizure of Afghanistan by the Taliban [* terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation], Panjshir province remains the only organized hotbed of resistance to the militants who have taken over power in the country.

It is a mountainous region with a small monogenic population: about 170 thousand people live here, of which 98,9% are Tajiks. From the Dari language, Panjshir is translated as "five lions". A native of this region, Ahmad Massoud, who stood at the head of the resistance to the Taliban *, was also nicknamed "the lion".

The militants have blocked the only road linking the valley with the outside world and are trying to break through the mountainous terrain into the interior of Panjshir. Allegedly, the battle with them by local militias was captured on video. The Taliban *, while crossing the gorge, were ambushed and found themselves under enemy fire from the commanding heights; The "control" shot was from the RPG-7.

Battle of the Panjshir resistance and the Taliban on the border of [pass] Hawak, [city] Andarab and Panjshir, 31.08.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX

- says the message of the rebels.

The fighting on the approaches to the valley unfolded on the evening of August 31 in three directions - from the north, south and west. In the western sector, the main task is to break through the Havak pass, the Taliban attack from the Andarab, while the Panjshiris hold control of the city. According to the resistance, the attack was repulsed, the Taliban lost 40 fighters, another 10 were captured; on the opposite side - one dead, two seriously wounded. If the Taliban succeed in breaking through in this direction, the region will be cut into two parts.

It should be understood that battles are fought not only on the battlefield, but also in the information space. Therefore, there is no certainty who exactly and where the uploaded video was filmed.

Comments

[hrych]

How to distinguish staging from actual shooting? She's always ugly. And here is a direct composition. Firstly, the operator is not a quack and thinks about his own skin, but here such a tight battle is taking place, but the operator stands outside the shelter and turns the camera. The main artist is a grenade launcher, arches in front of the camera as Jolie does. Now smartphones have decent cameras, but here there is a special dregs, so that it was impossible to see where they were firing. As the shuravi would say - Stanislavsky Yeah: "I don't believe it!" I would like to see 20 old prisoners, ten more new ones to see. Well, okay Masudik is not Sher Panjshir, like dad, but Twittsher Panjshir.

[gsev]

He is the only son of Ahmad Shah Massoud. I would like to wish him good luck and continue the glorious family of his ancestor. Until the Taliban take the Panjshir, they will have to watch out for a witch-hunt.

[hrych]

Quote: gsev

I would like to wish him good luck

Did you wish good luck to Dudayev and Basayev too? Masud is the same bandit and barmaley, who was no different from them. What some people have in their heads surprises and even frightens me. It is interesting what the Gorbachev-Yakovlev propaganda made of this a scoundrel - a fighter against totalitarianism. Successfully, now, the enchanted are still walking.

[gsev]

Quote: hrych

Masud is the same bandit and barmaley, who was no different from them.

I wished the younger Masood the best. At the time of the death of Ahmad Shah Massoud, he was 12 years old. He did not fight either against the Soviet troops or against the communists due to his small age. Yes, and Ahmad Shah Massoud can be considered a Russian (Putin's) agent of influence. In my opinion, Russian post-communist rulers had fewer problems with Ahmad Shah Massoud than with Lukashenko, Pashinyan or Nazarbayev. For example, FSB officers were ready to kill Hekmatyar in Tajikistan to please Ahmad Shah Massoud and left Hekmatyar alone on the orders of Ahmad Shah.

[hrych]

Good luck to the sons of Dudayev and Basayev? Shah Massoud is a perfect six to the tips of his ears and nothing else. And the fact that he ordered our FSB, probably got excited. His son inherited vanity from him. Masood Sr. also liked to show himself in front of the cameras, and on this he got burned. But Yakovlev's propaganda works.

[gsev]

Quote: hrych

Shah Massoud is a perfect six to the tips of his ears and nothing else.

He studied at an Iranian school in Tajikistan for a long time. In my opinion, among Afghans, it is problematic to meet characters strongly loyal to the CIA or the FSB, more than to their fellow tribesmen and their people.

[hrych]

But then at King's College London and received a master's degree in international politics at the City University of London. There he was masoned, a few brainwashed, and you wish him good luck. May the Queen of England wish him good luck, and we wish him there quickly you can go to the same mausoleum

[sergo1914]

Quote: hrych

There they made him masonry

Europe-s. Other moral values. Tolerasty. Or did you mean something else?

[hrych]

First of all, recruitment, zombie by specific methods, were taken to the box, where they were spread.

[gsev]

Quote: hrych

But then at King's College London and received a master's degree

The children of today's leaders of Russia and even the current leader of the DPRK also studied in the West. You don't blame them.

[hrych]

Quote: gsev

You don’t blame them.

I blame it. Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un graduated from Kim Il Sung Universities.

[volodimer]

In this conflict for us there are no "friends", but so far crush six will fight the Taliban *, it will be easier for us. That is why we helped the "Northern Alliance" last time too.
Do you believe in a "stable emirate of Afghanistan" that will not meddle in the affairs of neighboring states? I'm not very good. Accordingly, we need a tool to influence this territory. These Panjsherikas can be such a tool.
И Yakovlev propaganda nothing to do with. Simple pragmatism.
Let them fight among themselves: there will be less strength left to create problems for us.
Well, if I am wrong, and the Taliban * will create a stable state on the principles they have declared, then the question of Panjshir will disappear without us.

[hrych]

Not really. When the USSR entered Afghanistan, the West rubbed its hands, and the Muslim world turned its back on the USSR, although it was previously loyal. Brzezinski said that the CIA provoked the Union to do this and that they would fall into a trap. Russia helped not the Northern Alliance, but the West to get there, and even to Iraq. While the United States was floundering in these occupations, Russia was rearming itself. Also, when it came to hot phases in Georgia, Syria, Ukraine and Venezuela, the Americans knew that Russia could supply ATGMs and MANPADS to the Afghan and Iraqi resistance, as they themselves did in their time, and the losses would increase dramatically. Therefore, the United States understood this. Therefore, the Russian Federation helped America get into the trap. Our intelligence with the Taliban had established contact earlier and the CIA accused us of paying them for the killed American. This is of course a lie, but they tried to interfere with communication.

[volodimer]

The Americans would have climbed in there without our help. There are too many tasty objects around Afghanistan.
Yes, we could make them live "hotter", but we managed without us.
But IMHO, we helped the northern alliance not for the sake of luring the states into a trap, but for our own interests.
The result is, of course, impressive. Huge wasted resources and a complete failure as a result. Plus, by supporting their "anti-terrorist campaign," we transferred the Chechen "rebels" to the category of accomplices of world terrorism, with whom America is fighting. Thus, sharply limiting their support from the outside.
And if now the United States supports Massoud, then "the flag is in their hands"! Let them keep on messing around. And we will "together with the civilized world" help them ... At the same time, while continuing to call the Taliban * a banned organization, maintain such contacts with them that our interests are determined by pragmatics, not "labels."

[kventinasd]

Quote: gsev

Until the Taliban take Panjshir

And I read on the news today that the Taliban have already captured six outposts in Panjshir. https://lenta.ru/news/2021/09/01/zahvattalibov/ and I will not be surprised that in less than a week they will capture the entire Panjshir.

[Alex777]

Nobody has spoken out in support of Massoud.
And in support of the Taliban, albeit indirectly, there are statements.
All neighbors need a stable Afghanistan.
Then it will be possible to earn very good money on it.
Therefore, the Taliban will make every necessary effort to establish full control over the territory.
For them, "Masud with a cart is easier for a mare."
And no one will condemn them for this and will not impose sanctions.

[Hypertension]

Quote: gsev

I would like to wish him good luck and continue the glorious family of his ancestor.

It has the blood of Soviet soldiers on it. What other "glorious family"? What are your priorities?

[Richard]

How to distinguish staging from actual shooting?

Take a closer look at the details in the frame

The machine gunner has a traditional Taliban headdress on his head - pakol, or as we called it in due time - Pashtunka.
Although where is this photo from in the title of the article, the question is more likely not to the rebels, but to the Author

[poquello]

Quote: hrych

Well, come on Masudik

Masudik does not shoot at the pianist, and even questions about the white and fluffy Taliban, or rather the beaten Americans, hang, before the decision to withdraw the United States, they conducted all kinds of negotiations with the Taliban for a long time, as a result, they left arms for 90 lard, but oh well, the Taliban began to rule and interesting associations appeared - the Uzbeks demand something and threaten well, just like dill or the Americans, the chief of Panjshir was appointed - the Ukrop authorities of the Crimea immediately remembered, taking into account the "independence" of dill, even doubts - and whether the corresponding Cossacks were in the leadership of the Taliban, well, or how at least sleeping comrades?
"And I recognize the dear by his gait")))))))))))))))))))

[hrych]

The Americans left weapons for 90 lard not to the Taliban, but to these Salehs, Masuds, Dostums and Ghani. The fact that the latter fled, and the Americans? Firstly, the comparison with Crimea is inappropriate, even Ichkeria is not drawn. The Taliban are well aware that the Panjshir is completely dependent on the center, there even only 17% have access to drinking water. Already, they apparently drink from goat hooves.

[poquello]

Quote: hrych

Firstly, the comparison with Crimea is inappropriate, even Ichkeria is not drawn.

if you don’t understand, I’m not comparing Crimea, but habits, and something style of behavior breaks through, well, just like the curators remained

[Grits]

Quote: hrych

Panjshir is completely dependent on the center, there even only 17% have access to drinking water. Already, they apparently drink from goat hooves.

This is the Panjshir Gorge in all its glory.

I wonder, what will the glorious warriors of Masad eat? Something I do not see in the valley of fields that can feed 170 thousand people living there (as written in the article). When the Soviet troops took Panjshir, they discovered grain reserves, which Ahmad Shah Massoud hid and handed out a little to the local population (benefactor). And if now all mountain paths from the south and from the north - from the Hindu Kush are blocked off, then no grain reserves will be formed. What are we going to eat? To gnaw lapis lazuli?

[knn54]

Hrych, you have to spin, because there are uncles, brothers.
And the world needs to show its solvency - no one needs losers.
And the West needs CHAOS near the borders of the CSTO, China, Iran.

[FomaKinyaev]

What canvas fight? Shooting goes in one direction.

[hrych]

Ostensibly dense

[Prax1]

Fierce batch!

[JonnyT]

Just like call of duty.
And here and there computer graphics - they drew tracers did not skimp

[Gunther]

it is clear that without the support of mattresses, the alliance will not last long, but the Taliban terrorists need recognition and the slaughter with the Tajiks will not bring it closer.
will most likely make an offer to the alliance, after a show of bloodletting.
In the meantime, the State Department refused to lift sanctions from the Taliban and the proposed meeting in Kabul of the countries consisting of Russia, the United States, Pakistan and China stalled.

[parma]

Quote: Gunter

it is clear that without the support of mattresses, the alliance will not last long, but the Taliban terrorists need recognition and the slaughter with the Tajiks will not bring it closer.
will most likely make an offer to the alliance, after a show of bloodletting.
In the meantime, the State Department refused to lift sanctions from the Taliban and the proposed meeting in Kabul of the countries consisting of Russia, the United States, Pakistan and China stalled.

The Taliban are also not monolithic, some are more accommodating, some are not, maybe they also consist of tribes and clans ... It is enough for Masud to hold out until the Taliban start squabbling over cash and other flows, then, as in the 90s, they will be left alone, as was the case with the northern alliance.
And regarding the constant "kicking" of the Americans for their "flight" - a normally conducted (namely, by the Americans, that the officials ran, another question), approximately the same as with Somalia at one time, there are simply political forces (primarily in the United States) who are involved in this operation nafig is not needed and she is specifically pushed in a certain direction by the media ... to understand this, even look at our news - “there is real chaos at the airport, the Americans cannot control anything, but we took our own people on buses strictly on schedule and without delay, the cars drove right up to the planes ", While the territory of the airport was controlled by the Americans, they decided who, when, on what and where on its territory will go ...

[Gunther]

Quote: parma

The Taliban are also not monolithic ...

they were more or less monolithic when they fought against the government, now the moment of carve-up has come - "friendship is friendship, and tobacco apart"
now it is necessary to be responsible for the economy, prices, and prices began to rise - in Herat a liter of gas already costs 95 afghanis.
all this plays into the hands of the alliance, but given the blockade, disconnection of cellular communications, supply (water, food) - they cannot hold out without the help of mattresses (of the world community).

[parma]

Quote: Gunter

Quote: parma

The Taliban are also not monolithic ...

they were more or less monolithic when they fought against the government, now the moment of carve-up has come - "friendship is friendship, and tobacco apart"
now it is necessary to be responsible for the economy, prices, and prices began to rise - in Herat a liter of gas already costs 95 afghanis.
all this plays into the hands of the alliance, but given the blockade, disconnection of cellular communications, supply (water, food) - they cannot hold out without the help of mattresses (of the world community).

Even when they were at war with the government, they were not monolithic, this can be seen from how promises and agreements were broken, even from the last ones - the Taliban promised not to touch the former security officials and employees of other state structures, but in many places they did not give a damn about these promises, simply because they were given by the official representatives from beyond the hillock, and the field commanders commanded on the spot ... the lion cub knows this, that's why he locked himself in the gorge