Israel wants US financial aid to buy F-15EX Strike Eagle II fighters

During his visit to the United States, Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett will ask US President Joe Biden for an additional amount in the form of military financial assistance.

As explained in the Israeli press, Israel wants to use the money to pay for the purchase of 20-25 Boeing multirole fighters in an improved version of the F-15EX Strike Eagle II (locally designated F-15IA). At the same time, it is planned to modernize 25 F-15I Ra'am aircraft currently in use. The Air Force intends to equip them with new avionics, including radar and on-board computers. The total value of both deals is estimated at $ 4 billion.

As explained in Altair, the F-15IA has a much higher payload than the F-15I, not to mention the F-35A. It is capable of carrying 13,5 tons of missiles and bombs against the 8 tons that the F-35A can carry. In the basic configuration, the F-15IA can be armed with up to 12 guided missiles, while the F-35A can only hold 6 in its internal chambers.

As part of a 10-year agreement signed with Israel in 2016, the United States pledged to provide $ 2019 billion in FMF ("Military Financial Assistance") grants over 2028-33 and an additional $ 5 billion to strengthen missile defense. This budget does not need to be spread evenly and, in theory, can be spurred on with special purchases. The only condition is that funds must be allocated for the purchase of American military equipment.

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[Zaurbek]

Recently, the United States began to tie its tranches of $ 3 billion only to its American equipment and services. And the Jews want to use this money to give work to their companies. Moreover, they can produce all avionics themselves.

[Nasrat]

Yes-ah-ah, they don't want to buy an additional F-35, they requested an F-15, since they need a workhorse, not a wunderwaffle ... And how the local (VO) Jews praised the F-35 !!!

ps Something the world's Jews went to milk the USA for grandmothers ... Zelensky, Bennett ... But the Jews, after all, sense when it comes to seams ... and you need to knock out more dough ...

[Zaurbek]

Israel is not the United States, there is no war, the neighbors do not purchase modern technology ... they need a finite amount of F35 (if they need it at all). So they want to update something else.

[voyaka uh]

F-15s can carry heavy bunker bombs.
And the F-15 park in Israel is very old.
The planes have exhausted their resource.
Therefore, the necessary new F-15 for the role of bombers.

[Zaurbek]

EX is a completely balanced device: range, load, thrust-to-weight ratio ... AFAR with a large midship - everything is on the level.

[Alex777]

EX is a well-balanced apparatus

As a fighter-bomber, he is the best, perhaps ...
I just didn't understand the message of the article:

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett during his visit to the United States will ask from the President of the United States Joe Biden

Hasn't the visit already passed in an atmosphere of incomplete mutual understanding? At the press conference, nothing seemed to be said about help ...
And after the press conference something quite different was discussed.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex777

Hasn't the visit already passed in an atmosphere of incomplete mutual understanding?

Nooooo, Daddy just fell asleep.

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The link to the video for some reason does not work, the bugs have apparently accumulated in the site's engine.

[Alex777]

Quote: And Us Rat

Nooooo, Daddy just fell asleep.

I would venture to suggest that he was so joked.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: voyaka uh

And the F-15 park in Israel is very old. The planes have exhausted their resource.

Their American colleagues left for Davis Monten long ago.

[Zaurbek]

And the Americans ordered the F15EX .... more than we have the Su35S

[Vladimir_2U]

It is capable of carrying 13,5 tons of missiles and bombs against the 8 tons that the F-35A can carry.

Well, with a load of 8 tons from the "invisibility" of the F-35, in general, one zilch remains.

[Zaurbek]

If anti-bunker bombs went into action ... then there is no more air defense (organized)

[figwam]

Give us your money and we will buy your planes for us. How it all just works.

[Maz]

Let them take it. We, Russia and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, are looking through the entire sky over Israel and around. And we do not feel any stealth of Israeli aircraft. And when they begin to make a practical connection between the F-35 and F-15 and practice tactical techniques near Syria and Iran, we will put these developments in our pockets for free and will use them. So let God-is-the-sworn plow for the good of Russia and its Air Force. We are not sorry. So far, we do not interfere. From a black sheep - even a tuft of wool.

[avib]

We, Russia and the RF Armed Forces

We plowed - I and the tractor.
Well, he teased, teased. Straight trolling has become almost semi-professional - you grow.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Maz

We, Russia and the RF Armed Forces are watching the whole sky

Is there a psychiatrist here?
What is the name of the disease when a person lives in Bat Yam (Israel), but declares that he is in another country. Very similar to Alzheimer's.

[Krasnodar]

We, Russia and the RF Armed Forces ...

In the face of residents of the Tel Aviv suburb of Bat Yam

So let God-is-the-sworn plow for the good of Russia and its Air Force.

While a proud emigrant from Russia consumes for the benefit of the Israeli Air Force

With a black sheep - at least a tuft of wool.

Plus money to ensure the minimum wage from the Israeli social security authorities

[Denis812]

You have megalomania :) You see everything, you feel everything. :)

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

You have delusions of grandeur

FOR INFORMATION
Megalomania - a type of self-awareness or behavior of a person, expressed in an extreme degree of overestimation of one's importance, fame, popularity, wealth, power, political influence

Quote: Denis812

You see everything, you feel everything. :)

And if you don’t see or feel, then it’s called DEAD BODY

[Denis812]

You are so vain.
Israel is nothing. And although he is an interesting unknown in the formula of war, he will still be destroyed. Anyway.
By the way, my dad lives there.
Despite this, I still believe that Israel will NOT survive.
Will not work.
Any normal person understands this.
Look in the long run.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Denis812

Look in the long run.

Since the time of Alexander the Great, not a single country has remained in the original format. Even since the 15th century, half of the world has been reshaped.
So, NOBODY will survive for a long period, and after another 2000 years, even from the PRC, the USA and the Russian Federation, nothing will remain except lines in history textbooks.

[Vitaly gusin]

[quote = Denis812] Israel is nothing. [/ quote]
Nothing - category, fixing the absence
Perhaps you lack knowledge?
Be patient and you will have them.
Israel takes 5th place in the 2019 Bloomberg Innovation Index and first place in the world by spending on research and development as a percentage of GDP. Israel has 140 scientists, technicians and engineers per 10 employees, this is the highest rate in the world (for comparison, in the US this figure is 85). Since 2004, Israel has trained six Nobel Prize winners and is often among the countries with the world's highest research per capita ratio. Israeli universities are among the top 50 universities in the world in computer science, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Science_and_technology
uote = Denis812] Look for a long period.
[/ Quote]
I will not list the great empires that ruled the world and disappeared along with their people.
And the Jews not only survived, despite the brutal destruction, but also returned to their land, have their own state that they can defend.
And what have you seen in a long period, what or who can destroy Israel, except for your desire. Perhaps a grudge against dad?

[Denis812]

what you have listed is definitely very cool.
But from the point of view of an independent state, Israel is not even a century old.
Israel came into being thanks solely to external forces.
And now he is holding on only thanks to the intercession of the United States.
As soon as US support ends, or the Iranians and other bullshit around them sense the weakness of this support, Israel will immediately stop.
Despite, of course, an excellent army, Nobel laureates, excellent developers and so on.
Yes, Israel can inflict colossal losses on its attackers.
But a flock of hyenas will eventually bite the lion. No matter how strong this lion is.

I am extremely sympathetic to Israel. But it is obvious that he has no prospects of survival.

And dad ... but what does he have to do with it, he lives. But what is he, that Israel is far from eternal :) And the big question is who will survive whom. And I'm not betting something on Israel. :)

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

And now he is holding on only thanks to the intercession of the United States.

Until the United States had to defend Israel.

Quote: Denis812

As soon as US support ends, or the Iranians and other bullshit around them sense the weakness of this support, Israel will immediately stop.

You probably think that the nuclear triad is for parades?
So military parades are not held in Israel.

Quote: Denis812

Yes, Israel can inflict colossal losses on its attackers.
But a flock of hyenas will eventually bite the lion.

Above, I gave the answer to the pack.

Quote: Denis812

But what is it that Israel is far from eternal

While in our century we have seen how the empire collapsed after 69 years of existence.
And Israel, which in 73 years has endured three difficult wars and is under constant terror, is only getting stronger both militarily and economically.

Quote: Denis812

And I'm not betting something on Israel

And I don't bet on Poland.
Well, what of this?

[Denis812]

>> Until the United States had to defend Israel.
What are you? The United States has not yet had to defend NATO either. But the very presence of the United States plays a colossal role.
Second, the United States provides aid to Israel every year. It is on the sun.
Third - the United States supports Israel with critical military technologies, for example, the same F-15/16/35
Fourth - remind me, please, whose diplomat it was, by the name of Henry Kissinger, who spent two days in the MSC and communicated with the Soviet leadership to stop Israel's war with the BW countries? What a bad luck - this rat is from the USA. But since you say that the United States does not defend Israel, Kissinger must have come to the MSC to defend the point of view of Syria or Iraq ... Yes?

If you think that nuclear weapons will hold Iran and others - well, maybe it will hold them for a while. Until the same Iran receives its nuclear weapons. And he will get it. He will not have nuclear weapons, of course. But if they have to, he will zhahnet them :) (such a Jewish slogan, as you know)

Listen, I seriously wish Israel every prosperity and God forbid it never to see its decline. But with all this, I am a realist. And modern realities tell me that as soon as the United States slows down in support of Israel, there will be a new war. Israel will NOT SURVIVE without US support.
This tells me that Israel is an absolutely dependent state. This is a very cool state, but the state is not independent, and therefore doomed. Alas, of course.

What are you talking about Poland? I live here solely for mercantile and career reasons. And I don't give a damn about her. If tomorrow I am beckoned, for example, to Australia with a large amount of money, I will be happy to break.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

But the very presence of the United States plays a colossal role.

For the whole world.

Quote: Denis812

Second, the United States provides aid to Israel every year. It is on the sun.

The USSR provided military assistance to the VD countries, but so what?

Quote: Denis812

Henry Kissinger who spent two days in the MSC and communicated with the hands of the USSR to stop Israel's war with the countries of the BV?

This is still that prostitute, he played on two fronts.
The war was stopped by Golda Meer by sending a personal message to Richard Nixan.

Quote: Denis812

If you think that nuclear weapons will hold Iran and others - well, maybe it will hold them for a while.

In addition to nuclear weapons, there is also an EMP, after which only the owner of ordinary matches will be president.

Quote: Denis812

What are you talking about Poland? I live here solely for mercantile and career reasons.

"Being determines consciousness"

[Denis812]

In general, we agree that you have your own opinion, I have mine. And thank God that we can express it.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

And thank God that we can express it.

I agree!

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Nasr

Yes-ah-ah, F-35 do not want to buy extra

27 delivered as of May 2021. Total planned 75.
These are reconnaissance aircraft, breakthrough air defense and escort systems, and it is precisely such aircraft as the F-15IA that can carry a very large military potential.

And maybe he will be a carrier of CBU 57.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Perhaps he will be a carrier of CBU 57

Will not.
First, the bomb is called GBU-57.
And secondly, it weighs 14 tons and is dropped exclusively from large bombers (B-2 and B-52), a ramp drop from the C-130 is possible, but only in an air defense-free zone.
F15 can use GBU-37. Concrete breaker weighing 2.1 tons.
Although GBU-37 is inferior in penetration depth to the "older brother" GBU-57, 20m of soil or 6m of concrete, versus 61m and 18m, respectively.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Zaurbek

Recently, the United States began to tie its tranches of $ 3 billion only to its American equipment and services.

To understanding the issue.
"The last time" is from 1985.

In fact, this is not an appeal to Biden, but to Congress, since the increase in the amount of American aid (the same 3,8 billion per year) is closed until 2026.
It will go through the Pentagon and the Ministry of Defense. But for the sake of decency, Biden should be informed. But Congress can allocate different amounts at its discretion. Today, the Congress is less "pro-Israel" than it was in other years, but something you can get hold of there. They are rich, they will not be less.
The article deals with 20-25 boards, but the Air Force commander recently spoke about 10-12 really necessary boards. On old avionics, all new and weapons, and new engines after overhaul (we have our own good repair facilities and some licensed reserves), should be enough until the end of the 20s.

[lucul]

During his visit to the United States, Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett will ask US President Joe Biden for an additional amount in the form of military financial assistance.

And where did the powerful and high-tech economy of Israel, about which Israel's adherents so proudly rubbed in, got to? )))

[Zaurbek]

They receive, like Egypt, $ 3 billion a year ....... from the United States. This is tied to American services only ....... not to take?

[voyaka uh]

Pah-pah - do not jinx
Things are going well.
Investors in Israeli tech startups poured $ 5 billion in the first three months of 2021.
There is a great demand for programmers and electronics engineers.
Come!

[Flooding]

Quote: voyaka uh

There is a great demand for programmers and electronics engineers.

Are recruiters getting paid well?

[Zaurbek]

The main thing is that the specialists themselves are paid. And then recruit or not recruit will leave.

[Flooding]

Quote: Zaurbek

And then recruit or not recruit will leave.

Well, yes, you will leave Israel, of course.
like Moses

[Zaurbek]

IT shniki often work remotely

[avib]

And we were introduced to the group today. A guy from Nizhny Novgorod. Our office is attractive - it pays wages in evergreens - there is no dependence on exchange rate fluctuations. I think we have 50+ people from the bottom working in different groups. We must pay tribute - strong guys in Nizhny. We beat them off from Intel.

[Zaurbek]

what are you working on?

[avib]

Quote: Zaurbek

what are you working on?

The office is huge - we can present a complete solution from servers to ultra-fast communication - like a "full solution". We deal specifically with communication - both hardware and software for it.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: avib

I think we have 50+ people from the bottom working in different groups. We must pay tribute - strong guys in Nizhny. We beat them off from Intel.

Yes, I agree. But the competition for people in this city is very high. It's hard to recruit. I like working with people east of the Urals more.

[avib]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Quote: avib

I think we have 50+ people from the bottom working in different groups. We must pay tribute - strong guys in Nizhny. We beat them off from Intel.

Yes, I agree. But the competition for people in this city is very high. It's hard to recruit. I like working with people east of the Urals more.

Competition issues are decided by money. If you underpay, you miss it.
Behind the Urals, the time zone is already changing a little - it is less convenient to work and the specialization of people is important. This is no longer a question of geography - but more of professionalism.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Naturally depends on the project. I work with Russian companies, it became even harder to compete with foreign ones after 2020. For everyone, distance has become the norm.

[surf dude]

If you mean Head Hunters, then very much!
There is just a frenzy of excitement in this market now.

[Flooding]

Quote: lucul

Where did Israel's powerful and high-tech economy go?

saves a penny a ruble
why not ask for a freebie?

[babylon]

How interesting!!! Israel asks itself for money)))

[Krasnodar]

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett will ask US President Joe Biden for an additional amount of military financial aid during his visit to the United States.

And at this very place, Grandpa Biden fell asleep)).

[Bashkirkhan]

Bennett modestly asked for several billions for the purchase of 25-30 F-15 fighters of the SA or SQ modifications, which are purchased by the Saudis and Emirates. If the Arabs buy "for their own" (about $ 200 million apiece), then all the hope is for a good "uncle", and he, the bastard, is asleep.

[Krasnodar]

Israelis can also buy for their own (annual GDP ~ 400 lard $), the question is why, when is it possible for free

[Dym71]

Quote: Krasnodar

And at this very place, Grandpa Biden fell asleep)).

And his wallet was squeezed
Shalom!

[Krasnodar]

Shalom, Shalom! ))
Why steal when you give it up yourself?

[Dym71]

Al, you surprise me, it's a metaphor!
It is a pity that Israel abandoned the production of its aircraft, it would be very interesting, Azerbaijan would definitely be in service.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, I understood))
Of course, it's a pity - with all the love, friendship and chewing gum with France, yes, the day before the start of the Six Day War, an embargo was declared on the supply of weapons to Jews, the same could happen with Amers.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Krasnodar

with amers can get the same thing.

It's okay, you can buy your own "Lavi" (Chengdu J-10) from the Chinese, without engines and avionics, cheap and cheerful. And in Israel, finalize with a file.
Bet Shemesh Engines builds jet engines for Pratt & Whitney and GE Aviation, they have a 20-year contract from 2019.
And there is nothing to say about avionics, AFAR has its own, OLS systems too, I generally keep quiet about electronic warfare.
Old lessons are not forgotten.

[Krasnodar]

You can do whatever you want, you just need to do it as soon as possible.

[musorg]

Zen. he also wants financial help!

[Zaurbek]

Dreams ... but for this you need to do something

[Roma 1977]

A very correct decision. We need a normal heavy fighter.

[voyaka uh]

In Israel, it will be used as a light bomber.
As a fighter for air supremacy, the F-15 is already becoming obsolete.
When stealth spreads - everyone, the end of a career in air supremacy.
This is shown by aerial combat training in the United States. The Eagle F-22 has very few chances against the F-35 and F-15.

[Roma 1977]

I have heard that the F15EX has advanced capabilities for both ground work and pure fighter work. A very sophisticated unit, one might say - the crown of the 4th generation.