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The Kazan submarine of the 885M project will be the first submarine of the 4 generation of the Russian Navy with completely new technical equipment

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The head modernized multipurpose nuclear submarine (NPS) Kazan, an advanced 885M project (cipher Yasen-M), being built at Sevmash for the Russian Navy, will be the first 4 generation submarine with a completely new technical equipment that has no analogues in the Russian military shipbuilding. This was announced today by ITAR-TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.

"Unlike the 4-generation Yuri Dolgoruky and Alexander Nevsky upcoming strategic submarine rocket carriers of the Navy (955 project, Borey cipher), for which for the first time applied technical stuffing is no more than 40 percent, all systems, components and mechanisms will be completely new, never and never used before. This is a completely new high-tech equipment, which has no analogues in the Soviet and Russian military shipbuilding, "said the source.

"Kazan" submarine in its tactical and technical characteristics will be comparable to the most high-tech and most expensive American multi-purpose submarine of the Sivulf type, and should even surpass it in noise level and some other parameters, recalling that Americans the high prices of these of their submarines stopped their further construction.


He explained that the improved 885M project provides for “the use of new elemental base of radioelectronic equipment and weapons, as well as an increase in the combat effectiveness of nuclear submarines” (ultra-low noise level and increased detection range of submarines and surface facilities, first of all submarines and surface ships). The tactical and technical requirements for the construction of modernized Kazan-type submarines also include the requirement to equip them with high-precision ultra-high-speed rocket armament. "

Another source in the Russian defense industry told ITAR-TASS that the construction of Kazan was complicated by the lack of contracts of the lead contractor of the order - the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) with allied companies - cooperation enterprises for the supply of components.

"USC is set up to sign contracts with about a hundred contractors, leading cooperation companies, as quickly as possible. During negotiations, USC, having reduced its profits, for its part, requires subcontractors to lower prices for their products so that everyone can meet the tight price parameters of the contract signed with the Ministry of Defense on the submarine. However, major suppliers of products for Kazan do not yet want to reduce their prices on the pretext that the contract with the Ministry of Defense, in which, according to their allegations, the military department, prices are indicated without Onomical justification, it was not they who signed, but the corporation, which should look for a way out of the situation. "

"Now the difficult process of USC negotiations with contractors, started back in November last year, continues. Negotiators need to quickly agree to catch up on the missed year and a half that went into the preparation of USC and Defense Ministry contracts on the 885M submarine, including on Kazan, - said the source.
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  1. gorkoxnumx
    gorkoxnumx 9 September 2012 12: 15
    +6
    Speaking about the Project 885M YASEN nuclear submarine, why is the Project 955 Borey in the photo?
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 9 September 2012 12: 21
      +28
      S !!! ... and why "S" then? ... so that no one would guess !!!
      1. NickitaDembelnulsa
        NickitaDembelnulsa 9 September 2012 12: 48
        +3
        Secret, hehe. Well, apparently with new electronics, the efficiency of submarine use will increase, although much higher? ...
    2. fantast
      9 September 2012 13: 04
      +1
      gorkoxnumx, thanks for the comment - corrected
    3. in reserve
      in reserve 9 September 2012 13: 39
      0
      gorkoxnumx
      Open your eyes where you saw "BOREY" in the photo.
      This is "BOREY" project 955
    4. Petrovich-2
      Petrovich-2 9 September 2012 13: 39
      +3
      Come on, the main thing is that the news is good.
      Still, to remove all inconsistencies in officials and prices - it would be generally good.
    5. Good Ukraine
      Good Ukraine 9 September 2012 14: 28
      +1
      For gorko83

      This is not "Northwind"
      The Boreevs have an elevation for missile silos behind the wheelhouse. And also the bevel of the felling is different. This one is sloping. Maybe this is not Severodvinsk (so far classified), but not Borey either.
      And the news is great. More of these. Especially when this technique is taken into operation.
      1. Good Ukraine
        Good Ukraine 9 September 2012 16: 23
        0

        "Northwind" - ALPHA-MALE
      2. Good Ukraine
        Good Ukraine 9 September 2012 16: 32
        +9
        "Northwind" - ALPHA MALE
        1. Good Ukraine
          Good Ukraine 9 September 2012 16: 35
          +6
          And "Ash" is just BEAUTIFUL !!!
        2. esaul
          esaul 9 September 2012 17: 04
          0
          Quote: Dobryak Ukraine
          ALPHA MALE


          Greetings, Kind! hi That's what "girls" are curling around ...! laughing
          1. Good Ukraine
            Good Ukraine 9 September 2012 18: 53
            +1
            hi esaul you understand me!
            good And takoyzhe MALE, like "Prince Vladimir" !!!
            And let the "girls" look and tremble !!!

            And "Ash" at least a dozen. Oh, how they are needed, and a brand new three dozen diesels will not hurt.
            And khan "Adversary" !!!
    6. REPA1963
      REPA1963 9 September 2012 20: 40
      -5
      This is not important for propaganda.
    7. edge
      edge 10 September 2012 06: 08
      0
      but because ..................., about how
  2. Diesel
    Diesel 9 September 2012 12: 16
    0
    A photo with Ashen was not found?
  3. Igarr
    Igarr 9 September 2012 12: 20
    +2
    I'd like to say - forward, forward.
    But then it depresses ... ". A year and a half spent on the preparation of contracts between the USC and the Ministry of Defense for nuclear submarines of project 885M, including the Kazan.
    The pace .....
  4. MI-AS-72
    MI-AS-72 9 September 2012 12: 22
    -6
    I'm damn glad, that's just the expression "modern Russian element base", somehow strains where and can they really do something?
    1. biglow
      biglow 9 September 2012 15: 35
      +2
      MI-AS-72,
      don’t worry, if planes fly and helicopters, then the boat will float on our iron
      1. MI-AS-72
        MI-AS-72 9 September 2012 18: 56
        -4
        I have no doubts about iron, but "the brains and its basis are modern element base" doubts take, especially everything that more or less in Russia (our) brains with an element base are flying, strangers.
  5. lars
    lars 9 September 2012 12: 25
    +2
    Good news - if indeed already on the stocks !!!
  6. killganoff
    killganoff 9 September 2012 12: 29
    -9
    Uh ... don’t toss bags! since 2008 we’ve been rearming, now the army has nothing new in reality!
  7. Nicholas C.
    Nicholas C. 9 September 2012 12: 34
    0
    Apparently it was no coincidence that the haters of Russia threw shit into the Yasen-M project.
  8. patsantre
    patsantre 9 September 2012 12: 53
    +6
    My favorite submarine winked I hope the filling is all ours.
    Now we need to throw more money into the Ash-tree, this is in fact the only really highly effective combat unit capable of operating in the far ocean zone (not counting Anteev). Besides the Ash-trees for the far zone, nothing is being done for us now, so while there are still no new destroyers, emphasis needs to be placed on the nuclear submarines, because there is nothing more to fight off the coast.
    1. Diesel
      Diesel 9 September 2012 21: 02
      0
      Have you already written off Pike-B? The boat is no worse than Los Angeles
  9. anfreezer
    anfreezer 9 September 2012 13: 09
    +2
    The more new, the longer and harder commissioning. And if they are slowed down again at the stage of contracts ... Well, Putin needs to build a residence there, or Rogozin should be sent there for permanent residence, or trust in God and the enthusiasm and heroism of our designers, engineers and hard workers ...
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 9 September 2012 13: 32
      +3
      I agree completely. All weapons systems should develop without revolutionary or Chinese leaps. All experience, both domestic and foreign, shows that the pursuit of novelty turns into a big headache for everyone, from developers to "exploiters" ie. They usually do not give vryamen to work out new technical solutions, and as a result, a raw product is sent into flight, swimming and crawling, which all the time strives to ditch itself and ditch everyone who sits inside. At one time, there was a joke in the military-industrial complex that if an American spyen decided to steal a carriage with documentation for a new secret "product", he would have to steal another 10 cars with "change notices" otherwise he could hardly understand that he stole. And in this joke there was and is a large grain of truth. Paul of the military-industrial complex worked at the plant, the floor of the military-industrial complex was sitting on all sorts of military / h / bringing to mind what was done very quickly. And some new items were only suitable for scrap because of their "revolutionary novelty"
  10. gen.meleshkin
    gen.meleshkin 9 September 2012 13: 23
    +7
    If these counterparties were nationalized, then there would be no agreement. What kind of fool said that a non-state enterprise is more efficient than a state-owned one?
  11. Victor
    Victor 9 September 2012 13: 27
    +2
    This boat is absolutely beautiful in its formidable perfection! A true marine predator!
  12. dojjdik
    dojjdik 9 September 2012 13: 38
    +1
    the cost is of course also a secret; well, at least three nuclear submarines are better than copying this "airfield on the water" called an aircraft carrier
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 9 September 2012 16: 02
      +1
      If you believe the wiki, the leading 885 and 885M are 47 billion rubles ($ 1.5 billion), the remaining 30 billion rubles (1 billion Baku). Virginia is cheaper by a factor of 2, which is logical, given the cost of labor and so on. We can do this for ourselves, and I hope it’s not limited to 8 pieces.
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 9 September 2012 13: 47
    0
    the news is good, but with sediment. and the Union is remembered, they would have ordered allies through the Central Committee to deliver by such a deadline, and if there were any problems, they would only be technical, solved in the working order
  14. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 9 September 2012 13: 48
    +1
    while our submarines plow the depths of the oceans, we can sleep peacefully, because these are some of the most perfect weapons ....
    1. REPA1963
      REPA1963 9 September 2012 20: 47
      +1
      You don’t have to sleep, but work so you’ve overslept.
  15. maestro123
    maestro123 9 September 2012 13: 49
    +1
    It is not for nothing that the Americans say that in Russia, unlike the collapsed army and aviation, the Navy's submarine fleet remained the most combat-ready deterrent.
  16. Eugene
    Eugene 9 September 2012 13: 57
    +2
    About x-101 - a duck.
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 9 September 2012 16: 03
      +1
      I also have doubts.
      1. Stealth
        Stealth 9 September 2012 22: 41
        +1
        But what is there to think - "Caliber" on it will be (3M-14 with a firing range of about 2500 km).
        1. patsantre
          patsantre 10 September 2012 21: 37
          -1
          There was no normal clear information about the range of the non-export version yet, but I generally doubt that these 2 versions can vary in distance by 8 times.
  17. 53-Sciborskiy
    53-Sciborskiy 9 September 2012 14: 48
    +2
    There would be more such boats, but as always there are no connections with officials. When will this public be brought in line?
    1. bubla5
      bubla5 9 September 2012 15: 38
      +1
      Or maybe it's sabotage of influence agents
      1. altman
        altman 9 September 2012 18: 08
        0
        By the way, this is not even funny .. and VERY high probability ..
  18. red 015
    red 015 9 September 2012 15: 22
    +2
    they don’t want to cut the price
  19. bubla5
    bubla5 9 September 2012 15: 31
    +2
    Here it is the essence of private Russian production, the main thing is extortionate profit, without an increase in wages, investing in production, life today, come on to privatize everything else and complete kapets to the former heavy engineering
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 9 September 2012 15: 43
      +2
      in Soviet times, the Ministry of General Engineering was engaged in defense (the richest was richer than the Ministry of Defense). and the name, as usual, is a conspiracy
      1. VAF
        VAF 9 September 2012 16: 42
        +1
        Quote: andrei332809
        in Soviet times, the Ministry of General Engineering was engaged in defense


        In Soviet times, the Ministry of Defense (the Ministry of Defense Industry) was involved in the defense industry, which included branch ministries, and the Ministry of Aviation Industry (the Ministry of Aviation Industry) was involved in aviation ... therefore, they were ... ahead of the rest, but since 1991, everything has been ... n and everything was included in the Ministry of Industry of the RSFSR, but now ..... UAC ---- The little boy promised that he would be a good boy forever and ever. fellow crying
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 9 September 2012 17: 03
          +2
          I won’t argue, but all my conscious life is connected with the defense industry.
          such a structure was the State Defense Commission under the Central Committee of the CPSU, which issued technical specifications and carried out approval for adoption. IOM was directly subordinate to this structure.
          1. VAF
            VAF 9 September 2012 17: 15
            +2
            Quote: andrei332809
            I won’t argue, but all my conscious life is connected with the defense industry.


            dear Andrei, so I’m not just for the argument, but just clarified drinks

            And so you are absolutely right! Then there was so much poher that ..... crying and MCI and MAV and all with their factories, bases, aircraft and most importantly PEOPLE !!! +!
            1. andrei332809
              andrei332809 9 September 2012 17: 19
              +1
              that is yes. it's a pity big. cadres were brought up by generations. not only the military dynasties were.
              but about the minradioprom in general. The strongest structure in terms of brains was
              1. VAF
                VAF 9 September 2012 17: 45
                +3
                Quote: andrei332809
                but about the minradioprom in general. The strongest structure in terms of brains was


                Here, in general, ++++++++++++ !!!!!! drinks

                1. andrei332809
                  andrei332809 9 September 2012 18: 48
                  0
                  and who mininus then?
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 9 September 2012 19: 24
                    +3
                    Nonsense, now we will raise :)))
                    And who naminusil - well, there are all ...
                    1. andrei332809
                      andrei332809 9 September 2012 20: 00
                      +1
                      namesake
                      Hello. and what did the Union annoy them with? or does the inferiority complex torment against the background of the USSR?
                      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 9 September 2012 21: 46
                        +3
                        I am not a Jew, but nevertheless I will allow myself to answer a question with a question - how can I not suffer from IM from the complex mentioned by you? request
                        What was done in the USSR and what did THEY do?
                      2. andrei332809
                        andrei332809 9 September 2012 22: 25
                        0
                        it is clear that he is not a Jew. a Jew cannot live in the Urals. hello from the South Urals
    2. Funker1981
      Funker1981 10 September 2012 13: 23
      0
      And what kind of "predatory profit" is there? If it `s not a secret? Or did you yourself decide that it was just predatory there?
  20. Nechai
    Nechai 9 September 2012 15: 54
    +2
    Quote: gen.meleshkin
    What kind of fool said that a non-state enterprise is more efficient than a state-owned one?

    Nah! I don’t ... ac. Far from being a fool ... to This is the cornerstone of industrial-economic development now in Russia. Already existing or newly created production at public-state expense is declared burdensome for the state. They say that an official cannot effectively manage a priori, but a manager hired by private owners is easy. Tactfully and modestly not covering the issue, and who are they, these most intelligent owners? - For the most part, those same officials who should have, if wisely, steered there. Famously?! And do not strain and cut the loot with the wrong hands.

    Electronic iron, little by little, begins our Russian to go. Remember the p / station, and a single inform.system tactical level. Yes, and there was infa, the tablet will come to the market again from our iron. He got all the viruses on the drum. The OS is also ours, compatible with Windows, but its applications will stand. So that hackers will have to sweat a lot. Actually, such a system was already launched more than a dozen years ago. The alien pokamanduet there.
  21. Kochetkov.serzh
    Kochetkov.serzh 9 September 2012 16: 34
    0
    We are building up a submarine fleet.
  22. wax
    wax 9 September 2012 16: 35
    0
    Saboteurs and provocateurs to account!
  23. erased
    erased 9 September 2012 16: 54
    0
    We will wait for the outcome of the negotiations.
  24. not good
    not good 9 September 2012 17: 37
    +1
    Another splinter in Uncle Sam's ass good
  25. Lexa_71rus
    Lexa_71rus 9 September 2012 17: 54
    0
    It will be necessary to wash the reform of the armed forces. smile
    1. maestro123
      maestro123 9 September 2012 18: 57
      0
      It was founded in 1993. What reform?
    2. maestro123
      maestro123 9 September 2012 19: 01
      0
      What is the reform? It was laid in 1993, the only money allocated.
  26. sazyckin
    sazyckin 9 September 2012 20: 02
    +1
    The good news is always good to hear!
    A lot of such beautiful submarines.
  27. felix47
    felix47 9 September 2012 20: 15
    +1
    In my opinion, this supreme put on the defense of this Mr. Serdyukov and a team of traders. They are moving his course and his program. And, how many did not say that this character will not be in the new government, and they are here and here. And the further, the anxiety for the security and defense capability of OUR country is more and more. And if you look at how they close the military Space Academy, you can understand that they don’t need this very defense. Although even a layman understands that the role of space defense will increase dramatically in the next 5-10 years, competent specialists will be needed to solve tasks that are becoming more complicated. These guys are likely to 10 years will not be, but the scenario of 41 years will be much closer for the country from their work.
    1. Aleksandr3
      Aleksandr3 9 September 2012 20: 59
      -2
      I agree with you. On this site I look at some so-called patriots they will write a joyful article, they will show a beautiful picture - joys full of pants, like small children, I see the situation with the submarine fleet every day on duty and I will tell you this is the end of the submarine fleet.
      1. ytqnhfk
        ytqnhfk 9 September 2012 23: 15
        0
        Oranzhevizhnoy suffered !!!!!!!!!!!! Go and kill because we are all bad! and nothing will happen!
        1. avdkrd
          avdkrd 10 September 2012 03: 38
          -1
          What does orangeness have to do with it? TURN ON THE BRAINS. The news is certainly positive, but the fleet and army are really ruined. I hear a lot about the state of the army from the inside. And the officers and conscripts characterize the situation equally well..a
  28. Ulysses
    Ulysses 9 September 2012 20: 29
    +1
    Glad to hear that.
    There would be more such good news.
  29. REPA1963
    REPA1963 9 September 2012 20: 45
    -3
    The only thing that is alarming is that the words will, should, be comparable with the analogue (i.e., it does not exceed), etc. all in the future tense is the question of when? And will the hell go further in this time? While cranes are looking for a way.
  30. Ulysses
    Ulysses 9 September 2012 20: 50
    0
    The location of the torpedo tubes is not revolutionary, but unusual for our submarines.
    The eggheads are not transferred?
  31. Captain45
    Captain45 9 September 2012 21: 47
    +2
    The news is pleasant, but this is: "" USC is determined to sign contracts with about a hundred contractors - leading cooperation enterprises as soon as possible. In the course of negotiations, the USC, having reduced its profits, for its part requires subcontractors to lower prices for their products in order to all meet the strict price parameters of the submarine contract signed with the Ministry of Defense. However, large suppliers of products for "Kazan" do not want to reduce prices for them so far under the pretext that the contract with the Ministry of Defense, in which, according to their statements, the prices are indicated by the military department without economic justification, were signed not by them, but by the corporation, which should look for a way out of the situation "alarms. When will the state take the defense into its own-state hands, instead of blaming everything on ineffective managers and disputes between economic entities. If everywhere they broadcast and compare the present position of Russia with the position of the USSR before the Second World War. So let's like before the war, every business entity will have an NKVD worker with a revolver in the back, I think things will not just go, they will fly like a bird-three.
  32. insomnia
    insomnia 9 September 2012 21: 54
    +1
    Give the boat the name of my hometown!
    Even at least five of these ...
  33. lelikas
    lelikas 9 September 2012 23: 04
    0
    Five Kazan? fellow
  34. Su24
    Su24 10 September 2012 00: 40
    -1
    Oh, our allies.
  35. understudy
    understudy 10 September 2012 10: 50
    0
    And, strictly speaking, why Kazan? What is this city famous for? request
    1. Funker1981
      Funker1981 10 September 2012 13: 34
      +1
      Probably the third capital of Russia. There is 3 plant (TU-22), Kazanisk Helicopter Plant, Gunpowder Plant, etc.