Su-30 hunting: India will show the Japanese how to fight Russian fighters

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Su-30MKI of the Indian Air Force. Source: dambiev.livejournal.com

India and Japan - brothers forever


You can't live alone in our world.

All around against someone unite in order to achieve their rightfully strong. One of the typical examples of modernity can be considered the Indo-Pacific “neoplasm” “Quadrilateral Security Dialogue”. This alliance, also referred to as the "Security Diamond", includes anti-Chinese countries - the United States, India, Japan and Australia.



The originator of all storiesNaturally, Washington is acting, which is financially unable to cope with Beijing's military control. Not only does the PRC promise to return Taiwan in the coming years, but also the transport routes from the Middle East to Southeast Asia are gradually coming under Chinese control. With a certain degree of certainty, the "Security Diamond" can be called an analogue of NATO, only with much greater potential.

Despite the incompletely formalized rules of the game inside the "Quad", new countries are invited to the union. We are ready to consider the participation of Singapore, South Korea and Vietnam in this military-political bloc.


Illustration for the Indo-Pacific Confrontation. Source: maritimeindia.org

Any military blocs in which they are "friends" against common enemies cannot do without exercises. In the case of anti-Chinese history, these are the annual Malabar naval maneuvers. Last year, the Indians exhibited their only aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya, with MiG-29K carrier-based fighters. Actually, even then, participants in naval maneuvers from Japan, the United States and Australia could “try it out” Russian-made machines.

But the real excitement was caused by the upcoming joint exercises of fighter pilots from India and Japan, during which interaction with the Su-30MKI will be worked out. Simply put, the Japanese F-15 and F-2 will work out the destruction of the Sukhoi design bureau. The Japanese Komatsu base in Ishikawa Prefecture and the Hyakuri base in Ibaraki Prefecture were chosen as the training ground.

For Indians, this is not a momentary decision - the exercises were planned for a long time and would have taken place if not for the pandemic. Maneuvering fighters on airplanes of different designs, and even more so from different countries, is a very difficult matter. Fighter aviation in itself a very risky branch of the air force, and then there are air battles between the Japanese and the Indians. That is why the upcoming exercises preceded military transport aviation maneuvers in December 2018. The Japanese transferred the transport Kawasaki C-2 to India, and the host presented the C-17 Globemaster. The organizers practiced interaction not only in the air, but also on the ground infrastructure. A year later, a C-130 Hercules flew from Japan to India for another exercise.

"Dry" in Japan


According to Japanese sources, the exercises of Japanese-Indian fighters must necessarily take place before the end of the year.

At the same time, the initiative to use the Su-30MKI (India has enough machines from other manufacturers) comes from the Japanese side. The main scenario of maneuvers is that groups of planes attack Japanese targets from the west, that is, attacks by Russia or China are being played out.

The PRC is armed with nearly a hundred Su-30 aircraft, which the local Air Force is actively using near the Japanese islands. India has long been in a state of confrontation with China, occasionally turning into a hot phase. Beijing has recently been building up not only traditional types of weapons, but also expanding its nuclear potential. Some satellite photos of new silo-based missile positioning areas are worth something. So they are preparing in India as best they can, including informing the allies about the potential of the Chinese weapons.

It is expected that the Japanese will be able to prepare in detail for repelling the invasion on machines of the Su-30 type, as well as practice aerial combat techniques. It is possible that photographs of Japanese pilots in the seats of Indian-Russian aircraft will appear on the Internet.


Top-level Japanese technique. Source: regnum.ru

In the Indian Air Force, there are 272 Su-30MKI multirole fighters, the origin of which can hardly be called purely Russian. Moscow and Delhi have a multimillion-dollar contract for the licensed assembly of cars at the facilities of the Indian company HAL, the last of which left the stocks in February 2021.

It is worth recalling separately that the Su-30MKI can carry supersonic BrahMos missiles, which multiplies the combat capabilities of the vehicle.

According to the plans of exercises with the Japanese, up to 6 aircraft of the Su-30 series are to fly to the islands. Tokyo is definitely the winner, receiving unique information about the equipment of potential adversaries - China and Russia. For Delhi, this move is rather a political one - they say that we have found an ally within the framework of the "Quad" and are ready to further integrate into the anti-Chinese confrontation.

India does not think about reputational losses - Moscow will never refuse to supply weapons (including aircraft) to such a bottomless market. As soon as Russia curtails cooperation, others will immediately take their place. But this may spur China to further develop home-grown military technologies - after all, it is not very productive to reveal its cards through third and not the most friendly countries.

Moscow, by the way, may be on the losing side. And not because of the disclosure of technical secrets - the machines are export, and not from the combat units of the Russian Air Force. It's all about "sober pragmatism", when the Russian defense industry manages to sell weapons to its partners, many of whom are at enmity with each other. For example, Armenia and Azerbaijan, India and China. There is nothing to be done, most of these states pay for military orders with "real" money, and not with Moscow loans, as, for example, Venezuela.

Su-30MKI / SM, in general, is almost the most demanded combat aircraft in its class in the world. It's a sin not to sell it, and even with a decent margin. The price for this is such situations when Russian equipment becomes a bargaining chip in the military-political games of third countries. It is possible that something similar will be seen in the future with the Turkish S-400 regiment.

Aside from the political component of Indian attacks, the Japanese side will at least not be ashamed of the Su-30MKI. The entire line of Sukhoi vehicles is head and shoulders above the F-15.

In addition, many people still have heard of the Exercise Indradhanush IV exercise, when Indian pilots on the Su-30MKI utterly defeated the British Eurofighter FGR4. This happened in 2015 and seriously upset the British Air Force, although they admitted defeat with great conventions.

In one of the training battles in the sky, the Su-30 conditionally hit two Eurofighters at once. As a result, the score is 12: 0 in favor of Indian fighters. In their defense, the British recognized the overwhelming advantage of the Su aircraft in close combat due to their super-maneuverability, but stated that at long distances the advantage would have happened to the British technology.

At what ranges they will study the capabilities of the Su-30MKI in Japan is still silent. It seems that the samurai will not miss their chance and will fight both in the conditions of a "dagger fight" and within the reach of weapons.
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  1. +14
    1 September 2021 03: 49
    Here are the gypsies with oars, masters of rowing!
    1. 0
      1 September 2021 08: 26
      It is not for nothing that Modi “heroes” Subhas Chandra Bose, “the Indian Trotsky and Vlasov in one person,” who, for the sake of FORCIBLE (unlike Nehru's) overthrow of the British yoke, made contacts with Hitler and Japan
      1. +4
        1 September 2021 12: 07
        This figure, it seems, and the USSR tried to establish contacts. However, even in the days of Nehru and Gandhi, they treated him generally positively.
    2. -21
      1 September 2021 13: 26
      Where did Japan get Russian fighters from? with which India is going to fight. author -> author -> author burns?
    3. 0
      1 September 2021 13: 32
      Here are the gypsies with oars, masters of rowing!

      This is so if the Japanese win.
      What happens if they lose? wink
      1. Mwg
        +3
        2 September 2021 09: 33
        Zrada will
  2. +8
    1 September 2021 06: 52
    Murder will out. Everything new tends to become obsolete: they buy, well, thanks for that.
  3. +12
    1 September 2021 07: 21
    Evgeny Fyodorov, where have you "slept" for several years? For a long time already, the Americans "leaked" the Su-30MKM with video evidence. watch and enjoy laughing

    But they also "merged" the MiG-29 feel

    And now I would like from the respected author of the video evidence of his statement
    In addition, many people still have heard of the Exercise Indradhanush IV exercise, when Indian pilots on the Su-30MKI utterly defeated the British Eurofighter FGR4. This happened in 2015 and seriously upset the British Air Force, although they admitted defeat with great conventions.
    In one of the training battles in the sky, the Su-30 conditionally hit two Eurofighters at once. As a result, the score is 12: 0 in favor of Indian fighters.

    The author is not unfounded? wassat
    1. -12
      1 September 2021 07: 53
      They would have saved the uryakalok, at least they would have posted a video in English. After all, they learn that the old, decommissioned Hornet is absolutely on an equal footing in close maneuverable combat with a Su-30 equipped with an UHT. In this particular video, drying even loses 3-0. And in English it is not clear what is happening on the video, even more so.
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      2. +4
        1 September 2021 12: 43
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        After all, they find out that the old, decommissioned Hornet is absolutely on an equal footing in close maneuverable combat with the Su-30 equipped with an UHT.

        In what place did you see "on an equal footing" ... here is a custom-made ostentatious battle, paid for, because the Su-30MKI has such opportunities that the hornet pilots never dreamed of (by the way, it WAS in the words of the hornet pilot, and that he could would be calm to apply them). As for the rest, it's a giveaway game to please the American.
      3. +1
        2 September 2021 18: 43
        he posted only his victories like a true Yankee feel he was not going to lose and the camera was only from the front, and he did not post the losses crying
    2. +2
      1 September 2021 12: 47
      Quote: KKND
      For a long time already, the Americans "leaked" the Su-30MKM with video evidence.

      Where did you see the drain ... here is a custom-made ostentatious battle, paid for, because the Su-30MKI has such opportunities that the hornet pilots never dreamed of (by the way, it WAS in the words of the hornet pilot, and that he could calmly have them apply). Pilot Malaysian pilot clearly substituted this giveaway game to please the American.
      1. +1
        2 September 2021 09: 17
        In terms of technology, the Su30 is not a "Revelation" for the West ..... but systems like Friend or Foe and some kind of codes and some avionics for the Su30MKI are their own.
    3. 0
      2 September 2021 18: 38
      a cuckoo praises a rooster for praising a cuckoo good pilot skills are very important hi and these planes su and moment, with reduced capabilities feel and the Indians tore the eurofighter to dryness, your sarcasm is not appropriate feel and ours in the dry in the states tore them on dryers feel here the pilot is higher class than the Malaysians hi
  4. +10
    1 September 2021 07: 34
    And what is it?
    Hindus are free people, they are friends with whom they want.
    By the way, they have patrol P8s, we can agree with them and ours to conduct joint exercises.
    What is the problem? Or is it weak for our negotiators? Weight category is not the right one?
    1. +2
      1 September 2021 08: 03
      India and Japan are "friends" together specifically against China
  5. 0
    1 September 2021 08: 15
    No need to envy someone else's "friendship" laughing Author, would you explain why almost no one is friends with Russia? The army and the navy are not enough. They do not crawl into our arms, but it would seem that the 5th economy in the world, nuclear power plants, we bake like pies, etc. But there are no friends, mostly partners. It seems like an enemy, but in fact a partner, a reliable partner, but he plays airplanes with an enemy - a partner, or ships, and sometimes even builds soldiers and intrigues later, as well as a reliable partner.
    1. +10
      1 September 2021 18: 10
      Let's start with the fact that there is no friendship, in fact, the Americans were friends with the Georgians in the same way in 2008 ... and then they lit their hands when ours went to reconcile the Georgians ... the Japanese corny want to get experience, they will get it, and if tomorrow the Chinese will fight with Indians, then the Japanese will not go further than the requirements
      1. +1
        5 September 2021 19: 44
        the Americans didn’t help the Georgians for exactly the same reason that ours didn’t help the Armenians recently.
        Because both Georgians and Armenians are to blame.
        1. +1
          5 September 2021 21: 00
          there is a difference - ours clearly notified Baku that if they invade Armenia, ours will start an operation, and ours in Georgia were in Poti ... and silence.
          1. 0
            7 September 2021 18: 28
            And you do not know that Armenia is an ally of the Russian Federation, but Georgia is NOT an ally of the United States.
            Georgia is not a member of NATO, anywhere else.

            That is why the Russian Federation is OBLIGED to defend the territory of Armenia. And the US is NOT obligated to defend Georgia.
            1. 0
              7 September 2021 22: 52
              laughing Georgians were really not in the know .. as they were called then "the main allies outside the bloc"
              1. 0
                9 September 2021 07: 53
                you can call it whatever you like.
                the United States and Georgia have never had any defense alliance, and they still do not.
  6. +4
    1 September 2021 08: 23
    What is in the Su-30MKI that the whole world does not know? How many times have they conducted exercises together with someone.
    1. +6
      1 September 2021 08: 32
      Quote: EvilLion
      What is in the Su-30MKI that the whole world does not know? How many times have they conducted exercises together with someone.

      The author was frightened of the "most terrible" image losses in the eyes of ordinary people wassat
  7. +3
    1 September 2021 09: 41
    I hope that the meeting with Japanese fighters with AFAR will push the Indians to modernize the Su30 MKI to the level of the Su35S. China is equipping its J-16 and AFAR and anti-ship missiles with might and main, and "long-range" PL15 ...
    1. +1
      1 September 2021 13: 36
      Quote: Zaurbek
      I hope that the meeting with Japanese fighters with AFAR will push the Indians to modernize the Su30 MKI to the level of the Su35S.

      good The most sober thought!
    2. -4
      1 September 2021 20: 47
      Quote: Zaurbek
      will push the Indians to modernize the Su30 MKI to the level of the Su35S.

      the SU-35S also has no AFAR
      "Н035 Irbis" is PFAR (PESA)what
      and on the Indian MKI, and so there is a PFAR radar N011M "Bars-29" / the Indians would not have bought a plane with a slotted AR in the 21st century.
      They are not much different.
      Frequency Range: X
      Control Zone:
      Electronic Scan:
      In azimuth: ± 3 - 10 °
      By elevation: −14 - +40 °
      Mechanical scan:
      In azimuth: ± 70 °
      Number of receiver channels: 3
      Number of targets processed simultaneously:
      Accompanied: 15
      Shelled: 4
      Receiver noise figure: no more than 3 dB
      Transmit Power:
      Pulse: 4,5 kW
      Average: 1,5 kW
      Illumination and guidance: 1 kW
      Target detection range (not less):
      "Fighter type Mig-29": 120-140 km (in the zone of 300 square degrees at opposite angles, at catch-up 60 km)
      Railway Bridge: 80-120 km
      "Group of tanks": 40-50 km
      Destroyer: 80-120 km
      Maximum Resolution: 10m

      Electricity is not enough for the Su-30 Irbis. in Impulse Bars is 4-5 times weaker ...
      but we still don't have a suitable AFAR request

      for 30 MKI, you need to remove the PGO, but it will lose in maneuverability, takeoff run, etc.
      1. -1
        1 September 2021 23: 01
        There everything is unified with the Su35S.
        1. -3
          1 September 2021 23: 24
          what is "everything" and where is "there".
          They have a common progenitor: the T-10S.
          1. -1
            2 September 2021 09: 18
            Su30SM is being modernized and unified with Su35S .... avionics, turbojet engines, radar, weapons.
          2. +1
            2 September 2021 12: 23
            They have a common progenitor: the T-10S.
            This is judging by the appearance. And if we compare in terms of combat potential, then the serial Su-27 of the 1985 model, which was outdated in the early 90s, and the Su-30SM, not to mention the Su-35S, are vehicles of absolutely different levels, like combat systems!
            1. -4
              2 September 2021 15: 50
              Quote: Hexenmeister
              About the Su-35S, vehicles of absolutely different levels, like combat systems!

              I'm talking about "upgrade to a level."
              I wrote:
              they have only the glider pulley in common. all.
  8. +4
    1 September 2021 09: 46
    According to the plans of the exercises with the Japanese, up to 6 aircraft of the Su-30 series are to fly to the islands. Tokyo is definitely the winner, receiving unique information about the equipment of potential adversaries - China and Russia.
    And what will they be able to find out there? Russian Su-30SMs have been upgraded in relation to the MKI, primarily the radar, and now they are entering the second stage of modernization to the "Su-35 level", so the MKI can currently be referred to the "pathetic likeness" section when compared with ours. The Chinese Su-30 is a completely different aircraft than the MKI, plus it was supplied with all sorts of export versions of the H-001, which the Chinese themselves seem to have long ago replaced with their own, more modern, plus they also have enough of their own fighter designs, plus ours Su-35.
  9. +3
    1 September 2021 10: 43
    The entire line of Sukhoi vehicles is head and shoulders above the F-15.

    A bold statement ...
    1. +1
      1 September 2021 14: 01
      The Japs have F2 and F15 of their own production and they initially put their own AFAR.
  10. +5
    1 September 2021 11: 04
    Well, why panic !? All sides will follow the exercises (India, Japan, China with Russia and of course the United States, FOR WHERE IS THERE WITHOUT THEM!?) And each side will draw its own conclusions, but I am sure that many of the details of the exercises will be equally assessed by each side. participation in such international exercises and no one makes secrets out of it. It is necessary to watch and learn, work on mistakes and "plagiarize" good ideas, introducing them on their new cars, so as not to stand still, but to develop. Everything is like in sports- you either the first, or leave. In 1936 (the civil war in Spain, the steppes of Mongolia) I-16 was one of the best fighters in the world, 3 years have passed and dozens of more modern machines bypassed it. You can fight, but very difficult. We remember the lessons stories.
  11. +1
    1 September 2021 12: 02
    ... the exercises of Japanese-Indian fighters must necessarily take place before the end of the year ..... At the same time, the initiative to use the Su-30MKI (India has enough aircraft from other manufacturers) comes from the Japanese side.
    There is an opportunity to "feel" what Russian aircraft can actually do. The fact that they are found on interceptions, you can't check what a neighbor can ...
  12. +1
    1 September 2021 12: 48
    Why should our planes immediately climb into the yappia, if something happens?
    It is much more profitable and wiser to first "comb" everything there with rockets, and then, the survivors, "finish" with planes.
    Therefore, all these artificial "attacks" of Russia really will not prompt anything. what
    1. 0
      2 September 2021 09: 19
      Our planes will not get there ..... what to do there? The main tasks are air defense and strikes against the fleet.
  13. 0
    1 September 2021 16: 04
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    They would have saved the uryakalok, at least they would have posted a video in English. After all, they learn that the old, decommissioned Hornet is absolutely on an equal footing in close maneuverable combat with a Su-30 equipped with an UHT. In this particular video, drying even loses 3-0. And in English it is not clear what is happening on the video, even more so.

    And when was the Hornets removed from service?
    1. +4
      1 September 2021 22: 18
      like 5 years ago? there were only super hornies left.
      old Hornites either stand in the desert or are used as targets.
  14. -1
    1 September 2021 18: 13
    These teachings have a twofold effect. "Facts are facts, but if not you, twist them this way and that." But in Falcon Strike in 1915, the Taiwanese Grippens carried the Chinese Dryers "to Dry" :-). The dryers were not even allowed to enter close combat, they were shot from a distance. For the sake of fairness, I note that these were not the newest Su, but they were opposed by old flupenas, not Flu E / F39. I already keep silent that although the Grippen E costs $ 60 million, and the SU-30MKE costs 42 million. Maintenance of Grippen is cheaper, firstly, one engine, and secondly, the engines themselves have a large "lifespan". As far as I have read in the Indian Air Force on SUSHKI they change engines for wear two to three times more often than on Mirages 2000. And Grippen has better electronics. AFAR is still there. And the rest of the flu systems (as well as Rafale and Typhoon) are not offended.

    It would be interesting to see the results of the exercises SU-30 vs Mitsubishi F2, SU-30 vs F15J, SU-30 vs F35J. I've always been a very big fan of the F-2 aircraft. This is truly a confirmation of the proverb "Everything that you can do, an Asian will do better." Take the F16, which is already a good plane, and make it just great. The world's first serial fighter with AFAR, plus it also has excellent maneuverability.
    1. 0
      1 September 2021 22: 29
      with afar, nothing is clear at all. Afar seems to be a thousand times more noise-immune than pfar? and with LPI makes electronic warfare generally useless. and it seems that all technologies are available?
      Do the Chinese like a new version of afar promise? with recognition algorithms. in the Moscow State University with glass-fiber recognition algorithms back in the early 80s they were engaged ... well, of course, it was naive there. by what is now possible. but in general it was in step with the Americans. I later read their magazines - in the theoretical part, there was no lag at all.
      1. +3
        2 September 2021 09: 28
        not everything is so simple .... Su30 and Su35S PFAR look quite worthy at the present stage and "head and shoulders" better than conventional "slot" antennas and all algorithms for it have been tested since the time of MiG31. And in the West they immediately switched from slot to AFAR. Therefore, if the PFAR are lagging behind the AFAR (of the same generation and power), then it is not so critical. Prospects and development are another matter .... and here we see AFAR on Su57. And I would like to see him during the modernization and on the Su30-34-35-75, etc.
  15. 0
    1 September 2021 23: 43
    Quote: Momento
    like 5 years ago? there were only super hornies left.
    old Hornites either stand in the desert or are used as targets.

    Ahh. I didn't think about A / B modifications.
  16. +1
    2 September 2021 04: 09
    "I press the button, the cockroach is in the trap, you can drink a glass, you can drink two."
    Duc, in eroplan, then in entih, go, for every sad option, something is installed, small and cunning. You never know how it will go, surely provided. As well as in the "hardware", which we use for purchases from the west, they could also. No wonder that computers for state purchases are prohibited.
  17. +1
    2 September 2021 05: 00
    If you have started to fight with the "Dryers", for the sake of reliability, invite our pilots !!! We will see, and everything will turn out in the English manner - "highlighted like". Penguins and Vietnamese will remember.
    1. +2
      2 September 2021 06: 54
      yes it would be interesting and useful for all participants. To stipulate in advance all the rules of the competition, third-party judges for objectivity. Since tank biathlon is held, it means that something similar can be arranged with fighters
  18. +2
    2 September 2021 07: 58
    Even when the USSR was still alive, I was always embarrassed by the sale of weapons and military equipment to countries that, without hesitation, can provide this to our potential adversaries. Of course, an extra money is never superfluous, especially nowadays, when it is rather tight with an extra budgetary penny in Russia. But sometimes one gets the impression that the leadership of the defense industry is too carried away by trade and forgets that the main task of this industry is still to saturate its own, namely its own, and not other's, armed forces with modern technology, capable of both quantity and quality to ensure the solution of the assigned combat missions
    References to the fact that export modifications of this technique are sold to "foreign" countries are from the evil one. Yes, there is a certain reduction in the functionality of exported equipment, but not such a reduction in the effectiveness of the weapons being sold to an indecent level and this concerns the reduction of mostly classified components. For example, systems for recognizing the state ownership of detected targets, etc. But they are often not needed by buyers, since anyway they will put something of their own on the acquired systems.
    And what happens? And it turns out that we ourselves make life easier for a potential enemy, giving him the opportunity to work out and refine our weapons and tactics of their use on the models of weapons and military equipment sold to him or his "cronies". And for this, in the event of a serious collision with this most "probable" for the money earned by "back-breaking labor", you will have to pay with the lives of your children. Not to mention how much of the earnings goes into the wrong pockets and then is invested in houses, villas, steamers and airplanes over the same hill.
    And please do not shower me with slippers. At one time, he was often involved as a specialist in the demonstration of samples of weapons and military equipment to a variety of foreign clients, including the demonstration of ACCS objects to the Americans in our native General Staff, as well as in the preparation of relevant contracts. Those. familiar with the subject under discussion
    1. +1
      2 September 2021 09: 23
      Now the situation is changing and the equipment is becoming more expensive and it is not as easy to copy as the 2-3 generation of fighters. China, with all the development of the Su30 under license, has only mastered and then without a turbojet engine ... and the aircraft of the 70s-80s of development ... And China is doing avionics quite well itself. Everyone has a huge number of civil A320 and B737 .... do you see many analogues on the market? MC21 just gets up on the wing ...
      and turbojet engines of the modern generation in general - PD-14 all ...... And the West trades in thousands and teaches to serve.
    2. 0
      4 September 2021 08: 48
      the leadership of the defense industry is too carried away by trade and forgets that the main task of this industry is still to saturate its own, namely its own, and not other's, armed forces with modern technology,
      And in this matter, the defense industry ... ??? She does what she is ordered and paid. Saturation of its Air Force with modern technology is a question for the Ministry of Defense and the country's leadership. These statements and the like, which speak of a complete misunderstanding of the process of ordering and supplying weapons, have always been strange.
  19. +1
    4 September 2021 01: 10
    India Shows Naked Dancing Asshole!
  20. +1
    4 September 2021 08: 42
    Not a "dagger" dump, but a "dog" ...
  21. 0
    4 September 2021 10: 31
    the author is a rather strange person. What can be SECRET in the Su-30, and even in export version. I can even imagine that Japanese planes will "win" ... due to modern electronics and network-centric control.
    It was REALLY more interesting to watch the exercises against our Su-35, Su-34, MiG-35 - which also have a completely electronic control system and they have the ability to network-centric war. But this will never be clear, because the Japanese will do it right away, and this is nothing to the "instigator" of all these exercises in the person of the United States.
    Incidentally, the exercises are carried out "like against China" and not to see who has better planes - and here and there they are shit)
  22. 0
    4 September 2021 16: 16
    Commodity-money relations. With the USSR, such numbers would not have been rolled. Although it would be useful to obtain objective data on the course and results of the experiment from the Indians.
  23. -1
    5 September 2021 12: 05
    First, India will show how to deal with Russian planes, and then it will be shown how to deal with Indian Raphael! The answer will not be delayed, God marks the rogue!
  24. +2
    5 September 2021 15: 07
    The entire line of Sukhoi vehicles is head and shoulders above the F-15.

    This is certainly not true.
    I am a patriot, our planes are very good. Still, one must look at the situation without rose-colored glasses.
  25. 0
    6 September 2021 18: 42
    Most likely, the samurai will simply try themselves in maneuverable combat, there is no need to talk about long-range missile combat, but they will also rehearse. But in general, not only Indian modifications, but ours are significantly lagging behind in the level of systems on board, from electronics to weapons. The lag started back in Soviet times and we do not have the resources to reduce it, but on the contrary, the lag will only increase, and even more so if the current tendency of "effective managers" in the military-industrial complex continues.
  26. 0
    14 September 2021 11: 07
    Something is quiet and everyone is silent! Draw?

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“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"