"Russian helicopters are easier to operate": Forbes explained Iraq's refusal of AH-64 Apache and interest in Turkish T129

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Despite the fact that the Iraqi authorities refused to purchase American Apache helicopters, the United States welcomes the interest shown by Baghdad in the Turkish T129 attack rotorcraft. There is only one reason for joy - the main thing is that the choice was not made in favor of Russian cars.

Recently, information appeared about the possibility of purchasing T129 helicopters from Ankara for the needs of the Iraqi Air Force, although earlier Baghdad was inclined in favor of expanding the fleet of Russian MIs, refusing to adopt American Apaches. Earlier, in the mid-2010s, 19 Mi-28 and 24 Mi-35 units were already purchased, which were actively used in the fight against ISIS [a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation].

Baghdad has experience in operating earlier modifications of these machines and justifiably believes that Russian helicopters are generally easier to maintain and operate than their American counterparts.

- noted in the publication Forbes, explaining the abandonment of the AH-64 Apache.

However, the United States made it clear that subsequent purchases of Russian equipment could have serious consequences: Ankara has already been sanctioned over the acquisition of the S-400 air defense system. Therefore, according to Forbes, despite Baghdad's sympathy for attack helicopters from the Russian Federation, everyone will be comfortable choosing the Turkish T129. And we are talking about an impressive deal for 12 cars.

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    1. 0
      30 August 2021 02: 14
      But USA made it clearthat subsequent purchases of Russian equipment could have serious consequences ...

      Yes, everyone has known for a long time that "It is much easier to convince an interlocutor with a kind word and" Colt "than just a kind word."
      More interested in the question is when Russia will already begin to convince with a kind word and some kind of Lebedev pistol or S-500, or Su-57, or Su-75, or Mi-28 NM ... belay
      1. +3
        30 August 2021 04: 17
        Yuri Vasilievich, well, this is not our method. Where is Humanism laughing
        1. -6
          30 August 2021 06: 58
          The United States has made it clear that subsequent purchases of Russian equipment may have serious consequences

          Russian sport has already suffered serious consequences because of the punishment by the West. The next step is the sale of Russian weapons. We are currently the second largest arms exporter after the United States. And this is a significant source of income and support for manufacturers.
      2. -2
        30 August 2021 06: 27
        I think when we can produce them not in single copies
      3. 0
        30 August 2021 06: 46
        Quote: ROSS 42
        interested in the question, when will Russia already begin to convince with a kind word and some kind of pistol

        When the persuader grows to the same size.
        For example, the ruble will become the main reserve currency, the GDP will increase 10 times, the army will become larger than all the others combined ...
        But this is fantastic.
        1. -1
          30 August 2021 09: 59
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          For example, the ruble will become the main reserve currency, the GDP will increase 10 times, the army will become larger than all the others combined ...
          But this is fantastic.

          In terms of GDP, the Russian Federation is comparable to California, occupying only 2,4 percent of Russia's area.
          1. 0
            30 August 2021 10: 57
            Yeah, but the population is already one third.
            1. +1
              30 August 2021 15: 29
              California population 39,567 million , and in the Russian Federation 146,0 mln.
          2. 0
            30 August 2021 16: 29
            This is your trynzhdezh and nothing else!
          3. +1
            31 August 2021 10: 00
            You subtract the inflated cost of services from there and compare. In states on $ 1000 a month, even students can barely survive. We live quietly on $ 500.
            The cost in medicine is generally gloomy. MRI / CT in different states costs from $ 2000 to $ 4000. In Russia, MRI costs ~ $ 80.
            In the US, the GDP of the service sector is 78%; The remaining 22% is industry and agriculture.
        2. +6
          30 August 2021 11: 25
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          When the persuader grows to the same size.

          Do you think that Russia has little strength and resources to provide adequate answers? And I think that if a country has set a goal to inflict as much damage on Russia as possible, then it makes no sense to stand on ceremony with it, as well as to negotiate and warn. Example? Russia is in Syria at the invitation of the legitimate government represented by the head of Syria, Bashar al-Assad. The purpose of the location is to assist in the fight against terrorism. On whose rights is the US contingent there?
          Stop playing war games. The surrounding pack looks at how the leader of the gang behaves and what slaps he gets. Excuse me, when Trump gave the command to launch a missile strike on Syria, Russia was simply obliged to destroy this darned boat that launched the axes. Where are the American military contingents in Syria? Precision weapon launches and ... by the morning of September 31 they are gone. There is nothing to be afraid of. The truth is behind us. These dogs do not understand that you can break your head with a stick. We must show and prove. Nobody invited them to the Eastern Hemisphere at all.
          And to ask, warn, inform is the lot of slobber and weakling. Someone here will give a hint about whether I will go to war? When I was a combat officer, I didn't ask if I could or shouldn't. The order must be executed exactly and on time, and I did not defend the yachts of Abramovich and Usmanov, but the Soviet people, their interests and the interests of the state. Therefore, the dogs from NATO were sitting in their block and mumbled quietly. And China did not claim the territory when it got in the teeth. And Norway quietly looked through the Murmansk-Rayakoski highway and was pleased that no one bothers her.
          And if there are no such convictions and opportunities, then there is no need to bluff and frighten the world with non-existent power ... That British destroyer had to start rusting in the waters of the Black Sea, so that no one had any doubts that Russia was capable. And the S-400 complexes (if they are so steep and powerful) should become part of the Syrian air defense and bring down the F-35i like a partridge hawk.
          1. +1
            30 August 2021 14: 22
            Here I agree with you, but common sense, it is always a priority, as opposed to chopping off the shoulder hi
            From me +
      4. +2
        30 August 2021 11: 02
        Quote: ROSS 42
        When will Russia begin to convince with a kind word and some kind of pistol Lebedev

        The answer has long been known: when Russia acquires its own Fed and prints its world reserve currency.
        And never say never. wink
        1. +3
          30 August 2021 11: 32
          Quote: Alex777
          The answer has long been known: when Russia acquires its own Fed and prints its world reserve currency.

          The answer has long been known: when will Russia start producing goods (products, food, furniture) of world standards and acceptable (competitive) prices. State money gives the right to purchase this exclusive cheaper than for foreign currency. This is how the reserve currency is created (as in China).
          What can Russia sell for rubles cheaper than dollars? Only military equipment. True, for the Russian ruble, they do not give even one and a half cents. Saltykov-Shchedrin is resting.
          1. +2
            30 August 2021 11: 42
            Quote: ROSS 42
            State money gives the right to purchase this exclusive cheaper than for foreign currency. This is how the reserve currency is created (as in China).

            For all the size and success of China, its currency does not stand next to the dollar. Do you understand this?
            The FRS is the main mechanism of the United States for financial enslavement of the world.
            It was she who allowed the United States to become a hegemon after 2 world wars. And to maintain this status after the abolition of the Bretton Woods system. hi
            Quote: ROSS 42
            What can Russia sell for rubles cheaper than dollars? Only military equipment.

            With all due respect, you have a view of Russia from the USSR.
            Then your statement was correct.
            I will not speak for a long time, but look how much grain, for example, are we selling now? And very successful. hi
            Shl. A few words about the need for a head-on collision with the United States in Syria and elsewhere ...
            Our president received his education at about the same time as you. And the same Soviet officers taught him.
            But now Russia is 2 times smaller than the USSR in terms of population, and the United States has strengthened many times since then.
            The leadership pursues a policy under the slogan: diplomacy is the art of the possible. And it is right.
            I have said and will repeat: we do not need to interfere with the United States.
            They are so successfully destroying the foundations of their power themselves that we cannot dream of such success.
            Russia needs to strengthen itself in every possible way and wait in the wings. He's just around the corner. hi
            1. +2
              30 August 2021 11: 49
              Quote: Alex777
              I will not speak for a long time,

              We must buy in the world what is not and cannot be in Russia. Everything that we can do at home should be done in Russia. And there is little need to buy palm, they did without it and were healthier. And it's time to develop domestic medicines. And it's time to equate incomes in the country (in multiplicity) with the minimum wage, so that a young guy can afford to get dressed and invite a girl to a cafe or a theater, so that a couple can start a family, and not be content with "beer on tap" and random "hookups." ...
              1. +1
                30 August 2021 11: 54
                Quote: ROSS 42
                And there is little need to buy palm, they did without it and were healthier.

                Here I completely agree with you.
                Quote: ROSS 42
                And it's time to develop domestic medicines.

                A bit in the subject. The development of drugs requires a lot of money. But in virology, we are the leaders. We have been preparing for biological war for a long time.
                Quote: ROSS 42
                And it's time to equate incomes in the country (in multiplicity) with the minimum wage, so that a young guy can afford to get dressed and invite a girl to a cafe or a theater, so that a couple can start a family, and not be content with "beer on tap" and random "hookups." ...

                From each according to his ability, to each according to his work ...
                And beer and "hookups" are education and morality. hi
    2. +5
      30 August 2021 06: 10
      "Russian helicopters are easier to operate": Forbes explained Iraq's refusal of AH-64 Apache and interest in Turkish T129
      Do not changing one skis go from the heading?

      The Russian ones are easier to operate, they turned out to be from the American ones, but they look at the Turkish ones.
      1. +2
        30 August 2021 06: 20
        Dmitry, it's just that the author did not indicate in the title "because of the US sanctions" therefore. They are looking ...
        1. -2
          30 August 2021 06: 22
          Quote: knn54
          Dmitry, just the author did not indicate in the text "because of the US sanctions" and further.

          because of the US sanctions, Iraq does not take the Apaches, of course.
          but why isn’t he interested in Russian helicopters?
    3. 0
      30 August 2021 06: 26
      What kind of nonsense did the Americans sound Russian helicopters for Afghanistan. And here they interfered
    4. +6
      30 August 2021 06: 44
      VO continues to "delight" with its headings, which have nothing to do with the text, and texts from which you can understand what the hell.
      And if one piles up monstrous paragraph sentences, which while you read it, you forget what it was about, then others, on the contrary, shorten it in such a way that they throw out the very essence of what they seem to be writing about.
    5. 0
      30 August 2021 09: 43
      The funny thing is that Iraq, unlike Afghanistan, for example, has money and he buys for his ...
    6. +1
      30 August 2021 12: 41
      The United States has made it clear that subsequent purchases of Russian equipment could have serious consequences.

      Freedom and American Trade
    7. 0
      30 August 2021 13: 42
      Does Iraq actually have money (real money)? What did they pay for the previous deliveries? Will we forgive debts again? And how is ISIS different from that Iraq? From Turkey to Pakistan and from Kazakhstan to Pakistan, this is the Muslim Ecumene. And let them boil in their own juice. But who will survive with that and have to deal.
      1. 0
        30 August 2021 14: 10
        They have money and they pay and have always paid.
        1. 0
          30 August 2021 14: 16
          I DO NOT BELIEVE. Do they generally have banks, the Ministry of Finance, do they have their own currency?
          1. 0
            30 August 2021 14: 19
            Isis in the bank during the seizure of a city in Iraq seized $ 2 billion in cash.
            1. 0
              30 August 2021 14: 28
              So I'm right - ISIS and IRAQ are one and the same.
              1. 0
                30 August 2021 14: 33
                Globally ..... yes.
    8. -1
      31 August 2021 11: 53
      Something this T129 ATTACK is very much like the A129 "Mongoose" laughing And why would that ... what

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