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In Dagestan, a military helicopter crashed

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In Dagestan, a military helicopter crashedA military helicopter Mi-35, flying in fog, crashed in Dagestan. Three crew members aboard died.
INTERFAX.RU - In the area of ​​the Dagestan settlement of Botlikh on Saturday, as a result of the crash of the Mi-35 helicopter, three crew members were killed. “Today in 14: 30, near the village of Botlikh (Dagestan), the Mi-35 helicopter disappeared from the screen. According to preliminary data, three members of the helicopter crew died,” an official representative of the press service and information department of the Russian Defense Ministry reported to Interfax on Saturday . He noted that the Ministry of Defense created a commission to investigate the flight incident.
A source in the law enforcement agencies of Dagestan, in turn, said that the helicopter crashed on the administrative border of Chechnya and Dagestan in a high mountain region. "According to preliminary data, the Mi-35, which carried out the special task, in a foggy and poor visibility situation, suffered a catastrophe, allegedly clinging to the mountainside," the agency’s source said.
According to him, the search team, as well as law enforcement officers and the military, were sent to the scene, "this area has very poor visibility, and it also has difficult maneuverability, so it’s very difficult to get to the site of the crash." "According to preliminary data, in conditions of heavy fog, the helicopter crashed into a mountain near the Terrain Cold Key. A search for wreckage and crew members is underway," a source said.
Geographically, the accident occurred between the Dagestan village of Andi and the Chechen settlement Kharachoi in the area of ​​Kezenoy-am Lake.
In the security forces of the North Caucasus Federal District, the Interfax-South news agency was informed that the Mi-35 helicopter that crashed in the mountains of Dagestan was performing tasks to ensure the safe passage of a military convoy. "Considering the difficult situation in the administrative border of Chechnya and Dagestan connected with the attacks of militants, including military personnel, the crew of the helicopter crashed performed special tasks for the safe and unhindered passage of the military convoy in the high-mountainous areas," the agency’s source said. "Currently, search groups are escorted to the area of ​​the helicopter crash, accompanied by police as part of consolidated fire groups," a source said.
The flights of the Mi-35 helicopter were suspended until the causes of the crash were ascertained in Dagestan, Interfax was told on Saturday at the Russian Defense Ministry. “By the decision of the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov, Mi-35 flights have been suspended,” the agency’s source said.
Military prosecutors of the Southern Military District have already begun verification of the fact of the crash. "In connection with the crash of the Mi-35 helicopter and the death of three crew members in the mountains on the border of the Botlikh district of the Republic of Dagestan, military prosecutors of the Southern Military District started checking the laws on flight rules and training for them," the chief military prosecutor’s office said in "Interfax".
The Mi-35 helicopter is an upgraded version of the Mi-24 and is designed to destroy armored vehicles and enemy personnel, provide fire support to units of the Ground Forces and airborne troops, evacuate the wounded, as well as transport cargo in the cabin and on an external suspension. The machine is equipped with a thermal imaging surveillance system that allows you to detect and recognize objects at any time of day at a distance of several kilometers. There is a modern satellite navigation system.
This is not the first accident of a military helicopter in the area. 13 July 2010 in the mountains of the same Botlikh district, not far from the village of Andi, during the planned flight, a Mi-24 combat helicopter hooked on the side of the mountain with a main rotor and made an emergency landing, falling into a canyon. There were no victims and injuries, the helicopter was completely burned out. The crew was picked up by another helicopter.
From the beginning of the 2012, several emergency situations with military helicopters were recorded in Russia.
13 March in the Tver region, two kilometers north-west of the village of Malaya Kisilenko, an Ka-52 army helicopter fell, one of the pilots was killed, the other was seriously wounded. Later, the investigating authorities opened a criminal case under Article 351 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (violation of the rules of flights or preparation for them).
July 24 helicopter Mi-8 of the military unit 42838 of the Russian Ministry of Defense crashed near Khabarovsk. The helicopter made a hard landing on an asphalt road near the village of Garovka-1, the crew performing the scheduled training flight left the cabin on its own.
August 16 helicopter Mi-28H while performing a training flight made a hard landing at the airport "Mozdok" in North Ossetia. A criminal case was initiated under Article 351 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (violation of flight rules).
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  1. Yazov
    Yazov 8 September 2012 18: 59
    +3
    Though do not read the news! That Mig-29, today a helicopter! Annoyingly. The consequences of the post-Soviet period. Not soon everything will settle down ......
    1. MI-AS-72
      MI-AS-72 8 September 2012 19: 49
      30
      The post-Soviet period has nothing to do with it. In Soviet times, an average of 200 planes and helicopters fell annually. True, the number of aircraft and raid were incomparable with today. At the same time, about a hundred crew members died, one school, in principle, at that time worked idle. By the way, the Americans had the same situation. Military aviation and the flying profession were and will be a zone of increased risk, while it does not cease to be in second place after human love in terms of perception of the world. And those who die in the sky have a shorter road to paradise. Land to the men rest in peace.
      1. VAF
        VAF 8 September 2012 20: 16
        +5
        Quote: MI-AS-72
        Military aviation and the flying profession were and will be a zone of increased risk, while it does not cease to be in second place after human love in terms of perception of the world. And those who die in the sky have a shorter road to paradise. Land to the men rest in peace.


        ++++++++! soldier
      2. NickitaDembelnulsa
        NickitaDembelnulsa 9 September 2012 04: 38
        +1
        I completely agree. The fact that so many planes and pilots fell and died in the USSR is true. Now the fault may be the inexperience of the crew, or the malfunction of still Soviet aircraft. It is necessary to replace the entire fleet, and repair the old equipment, or write off and send to the storage base.
      3. VAF
        VAF 9 September 2012 19: 40
        +2
        Quote: MI-AS-72
        And those who die in the sky have a shorter road to paradise. Land to the men rest in peace.


        The full crew ........... crying soldier




        Let's remember them like that ............ soldier

        1. Berkut_64
          Berkut_64 9 September 2012 22: 53
          +1
          are they exactly?
          1. VAF
            VAF 10 September 2012 12: 21
            +1
            Quote: Berkut_64
            are they exactly?


            +! 1000000%! crying soldier
            1. gele79
              gele79 10 September 2012 14: 25
              0
              yes you were stunned or what ??? it's not them !!!
    2. Rustam
      Rustam 8 September 2012 22: 08
      +4
      questions remain
      crashed a simple mi-35 or the latest mi-35m ???

      if the newest one with the index m then how ??? because export ones come with a map of the area, a system of collision with the ground, etc., etc.
      or did they make a trimmed version for us ???

      condolences to the dead

      pictured in the cockpit mi-35m
      1. Berkut_64
        Berkut_64 9 September 2012 01: 05
        0
        Yes, they again make a fool of themselves, which is simpler and cheaper. This is precisely in the spirit of MO policy.
      2. Rustam
        Rustam 9 September 2012 03: 05
        +2
        my mistake is there are no rapprochement systems on export either
        (although the stores are only delivered to Venezuela and Brazil)
        sorry for my mistake
      3. VAF
        VAF 9 September 2012 19: 35
        +3
        Quote: Rustam
        questions remain
        crashed a simple mi-35 or the latest mi-35m ???


        Answer: One of the newest aircraft, received not so long ago in the Central Pulp and Paper Shop, Mi-35 b / n 54.

    3. valokordin
      valokordin 10 September 2012 10: 08
      +1
      why the hell did they give the green light to take flight to the complex, what is a military necessity? Of the 150 graduates of the SVAUL 1967, 32 pilots died, and all in the Union. No one died in Afghanistan
      1. VAF
        VAF 10 September 2012 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: valokordin
        why the hell did they give the green light to take flight to the complex, what is a military necessity ?,


        There was a planned flight to the Botlikh site, we flew in a couple, there were no planned military escorts, why everything else ......... request +!
  2. Starksa
    Starksa 8 September 2012 19: 06
    +5
    it’s a pity they don’t equip these helicopters with ka-37 seats or would have thought that the entire cabin with the crew would immediately shoot back,
    1. crazyrom
      crazyrom 8 September 2012 22: 47
      +3
      Quote: StarkSA
      sorry do not equip these helicopters with ka-xnumx seats

      To do this, it would be necessary to redo the main rotor, add a system of shooting the blades.

      But I don’t understand another thing, is there really no instrument other than an altimeter and horizon? How can I avoid a collision with the mountains in the fog? If there are no instruments, then why do helicopters fly in such conditions?
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 8 September 2012 22: 57
        0
        Now I have the same question ???
        here to figure out which new or m old 35
      2. VAF
        VAF 8 September 2012 23: 45
        0
        Quote: crazyrom
        But I don’t understand another thing, is there really no instrument other than an altimeter and a horizon?


        In theory, everything should be ... although the customer is the "native" MO Taburetkin, they could save money, and so ... under the modernization program, the Mi-35 helicopter received night vision devices, a thermal imaging observation system of the IRTV-445MGH model, providing the ability to detect and recognize objects around the clock at a distance of more than 4,0 km.
        The helicopter also received a GPS115L GARMIN satellite navigation system with a VPS-200 interface unit, which determines the current coordinates of the helicopter.




        Interfax-AVN - The Russian Air Force will purchase 30 Mi-35M helicopters, an upgraded version of the Mi-24 combat helicopter, Colonel Vladimir Drik, a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry's press service and information on the Air Force, told Interfax-AVN on Tuesday.
        "It is planned to purchase a pilot batch of Mi-35M in the amount of about 30 units, but this does not mean at all that the priority in equipping Air Force units with helicopters is given to this machine," said V. Drik.
        According to him, the Air Force will continue serial purchases of Mi-28N Night Hunter all-weather attack helicopters. "There are no revisions of the plans for the purchase of aviation equipment in favor of the Mi-35M. Each of these aircraft performs its own tasks," said a representative of the Ministry of Defense.
        At the same time, he noted that when equipping troops, priority is given to new equipment - the Mi-28N helicopter. "And the Mi-35M is positioned as a transitional helicopter to facilitate the training of flight personnel from the Mi-24 to the Mi-28N," said V. Drik.

        This is what was planned, but as a matter of fact .... honestly, I don’t know, +!
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 9 September 2012 00: 00
          -1
          I wrote below, there is a map of the area, there are no sensors about collision with the ground
          1. Rustam
            Rustam 9 September 2012 03: 24
            +4
            just need to install such a thing
            GPWS (Aircraft Proximity Ground Warning Systems) ***


            Ground Proximity Alert Systems (GPWS) automatically notify pilots when the distance to the ground is approaching a danger mark, which is especially important when approaching in poor visibility and in mountainous terrain. The most advanced systems (E-GPWS) with which new aircraft are equipped today allow pilots to "look" not only vertically downwards, but also several kilometers ahead in the direction of flight. For this purpose, special databases with electronic maps of the terrain are entered into the on-board computer.

            An example in the USA, all military aircraft and helicopters are equipped with such devices — without their availability they simply won’t pass acceptance — we have a Mi-35m helicopter worth $ 15 million — it flies without such systems in the highlands
            guys we already in the 21st century actually
  3. PLO
    PLO 8 September 2012 19: 06
    +3
    eh. what a week
    news one worse than the other
    condolences to the families of the dead
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 8 September 2012 19: 37
      +1
      I join in condolences.
  4. beech
    beech 8 September 2012 19: 15
    0
    these are the same mi-35 that arrived recently ???
  5. karimbaev
    karimbaev 8 September 2012 19: 23
    +1
    I think the reason is the level of preparation or flying hours is minimal. 60 hours is not enough.
  6. User777
    User777 8 September 2012 19: 23
    0
    Well, they didn’t have time to really take them into service, they began to fall. Or maybe they still shot him down?
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 8 September 2012 20: 38
      -1
      Only if he accidentally flew over the S-400 launcher, which performed training firing, the flight path of a rocket which accidentally crossed with the flight path of a helicopter ...
      absurdity.
  7. red 015
    red 015 8 September 2012 19: 36
    +2
    figs with her car, the saddest thing is that people died
  8. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 8 September 2012 19: 50
    +1
    It’s sad. Mountains do not forgive mistakes.
    "The Mi-35 helicopter, which crashed in Dagestan, was not subjected to shelling from the ground, a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry said on Saturday."
  9. krutishka
    krutishka 8 September 2012 19: 54
    +1
    I express my condolences to the families of the victims. It is probably very difficult to fly in mountainous conditions .... but still I have an assumption that they could have shot him down ... I think we still won’t find out the truth ...
    1. Explosiver
      Explosiver 8 September 2012 22: 17
      0
      If he had been shot down, then there would have been traces of bullets or a hole from a rocket on the body. In any case - let the earth rest in peace ...
  10. bachast
    bachast 8 September 2012 20: 14
    +4
    These two tragedies happened exactly on this date
  11. toguns
    toguns 8 September 2012 20: 26
    +1
    crying condolences to fellow soldiers, relatives and friends of these pilots.
  12. insomnia
    insomnia 8 September 2012 20: 45
    +1
    Well, why in this country no one is ever responsible for anything. Neither for training pilots, nor for their lives. Throw people and technology like sand. And no one will answer for this disaster either. I definitely say.
  13. Delink
    Delink 8 September 2012 20: 57
    +4
    That's where digital surface scanners are now needed with high accuracy and displaying a realistic surface image with indications of range and altitude, and at the same time speed.
  14. Wedmak
    Wedmak 8 September 2012 21: 14
    -1
    Or maybe they survived? alas ... condolences.
  15. gorkoxnumx
    gorkoxnumx 8 September 2012 21: 26
    0
    Whatever the pilots' guilt in these disasters, it was minimal, and the reason, as was already mentioned above, is the banal flying hours, or the error of those services, or, much less often, factory defects. The main thing is that the correct conclusions are made and errors are eliminated since the price of this very error is human life.
  16. kNow
    kNow 8 September 2012 21: 34
    +6
    in the Caucasus now there are very thick fogs ... And what a helicopter can do, how to accompany a convoy if you don’t see a fig in front of you. In such weather, it’s better not to go into the mountains with equipment
  17. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 8 September 2012 21: 42
    +1
    Condolences to the near perished ....
  18. anfreezer
    anfreezer 8 September 2012 22: 10
    +1
    REST IN PEACE...
  19. Explosiver
    Explosiver 8 September 2012 22: 13
    -2
    Often began to fall recently ...
    The Kingdom of heaven...
  20. Shum86
    Shum86 8 September 2012 22: 26
    +1
    Perhaps they shot him down, but they say he fell !!! This also happens
  21. Syarzhuk
    Syarzhuk 8 September 2012 22: 33
    +2
    Or maybe they knocked out? After all, no one knows. The article has some assumptions. The place of the fall was not established, no one saw the wreckage because of inaccessible places or fog. Or maybe the pilots are already in captivity? There is also a war, judging by the article. The same thing must be brought to the country so that in peacetime the redeployment of the army was accompanied by helicopters. Right Afghanistan and not Russia.
  22. axpert2008
    axpert2008 8 September 2012 23: 02
    +1
    Condolences to relatives and friends. They do not leave the feeling that we are not being negotiated. I understand that the column with specialists was shot somewhere in the same place ....
  23. Tamerlan225
    Tamerlan225 8 September 2012 23: 04
    +2
    ONE QUESTION "" "" WHY THE VDV DIVISION IS ARRIVING IN DAGESTAN ?????? "" "" RECENTLY IN THE NEWS I READ IT KINDLY QUIETLY request request request
  24. wolf095
    wolf095 8 September 2012 23: 05
    +1
    my condolences to the families of the dead.
  25. Syarzhuk
    Syarzhuk 8 September 2012 23: 09
    -1
    As I understand it, the mess is planned not frail. Definitely something will happen.
    1. gojesi
      gojesi 9 September 2012 02: 23
      +1
      Quote: Syarzhuk
      . Definitely something will be

      God forbid ... They are trying to ignite the Caucasus ... Both a "stinger" from Turkey and "Strela-2" from Libya are possible ...
      It is impossible to exclude ... But, IMHO, they will not tell us ... so as not to escalate ...
      But I heard that it is forbidden to send helicopters to the places of hostilities without the "President-S" complex.
      Does anyone know ???
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 9 September 2012 02: 35
        0
        Both a "stinger" from Turkey and "Strela-2" from Libya are possible ...
        It is impossible to exclude ..
        ____
        morning began on the collective farm !! they told you that the helicopter crashed into a mountain
        President-s has not yet been installed on any helicopter of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
  26. Rustam
    Rustam 8 September 2012 23: 14
    +2
    Now it is precisely established that the latest mi-35m issue fell at the end of 2011
    tail number 54
    here he is in the photo

    An interesting feature (they just said) the map of the area is displayed on the LCD screens through glonass (no one knows for sure), there are no sensors about a collision with the ground, why didn’t they notice the mountain ???
    1. Berkut_64
      Berkut_64 9 September 2012 01: 14
      +1
      In that area, the mountains are high, with limited visibility, the helicopter simply did not stretch out, due to the particularities of the low-altitude aircraft. I don’t remember the 10th year, it seems that there was also an Mi-24 AP accompanied by a convoy at an altitude of 2100 or a little higher at a speed of 120 km / h and collided in a mountain. Does not pull out the rotor.
    2. Lucky man
      Lucky man 9 September 2012 13: 34
      +2
      here he is at the air show in honor of the 100th anniversary of Russia
  27. Nazrug
    Nazrug 9 September 2012 00: 47
    +2
    All three dead were up to 30 years old, that’s the answer. There is no experience, and especially in the mountains, navigation and other things are certainly good, but they only help the pilot, and he makes the decisions. Russian maybe: there is fog ahead, it can change course, but let’s slip through, I’ve already flown here! (Well, this is so for example)
  28. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 9 September 2012 03: 51
    +2
    A pity for the children of the kingdom of heaven from the earth, rest in peace Amen!
  29. SIBIR38RUS
    SIBIR38RUS 9 September 2012 06: 53
    0
    The pinwheel was shot down unambiguously .... while organizing the passage of the boxes. And now the blame will be blamed on the crew as always, no one will let anyone hear the true records of the EP. So that the authorities back cover their life with pilots again ....
  30. yacht
    yacht 9 September 2012 09: 27
    +2
    It was reported that four were killed and three were identified.
    My question is how it turns out that they do not know the crew and who was on board, in what quantity.
  31. Berkut_64
    Berkut_64 9 September 2012 23: 11
    0
    Everyone knows, journalists are just confusing and they are gaining passions