US Marine Corps officer removed from office for calling on generals in charge of the operation in Afghanistan to "put shoulder straps on the table."

The American officer paid for the fact that he released a video message criticizing the command in connection with the terrorist attacks in the area of ​​the Kabul airport. We are talking about US Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheler. Stuart Scheller released an appeal on the social network, in which he demanded from higher officials accurate reporting on what happened near the walls of the main air harbor of Afghanistan and on the withdrawal operation.

Lieutenant Colonel Scheller:

I understand the rules of chain of command. But I ask myself what I would do in their place. And the main thing is the transparency of information. But she was not there. And my comrades died there.

Scheller criticized the command for organizing the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and called on responsible generals to take responsibility for the chaos that has been observed in Kabul in recent days.

Lt. Col. of the United States Marine Corps:

After that, you had to put your shoulder straps on the table and say: "Hey, this is a bad idea - this is how to withdraw the troops, so to evacuate Bagram." But none of you did it. You have to admit that you have failed.

According to Scheller, it is a shame to realize that his comrades-in-arms died in vain.

After some time, it became known that Lieutenant Colonel Scheller was relieved of his post. This information was confirmed by Scheller himself, pointing out that he would not make any special statements to the press on this matter until he officially ceases to be a career US Marine.

Stuart Scheller:

America has a lot of problems right now. It's stupid not to admit it. But America is my home. My three sons are growing up, who will become men, protectors. For me, America was and will be a light shining in the fog of chaos. My purpose in life is to make America an effective instrument of diplomacy. Although the days of my military career are coming to an end. But I am ready to continue to serve in the name of America and in other fields. I see a light on the horizon.

Ordinary Americans support the lieutenant colonel on social media, echoing the call for the Pentagon generals in charge of the Afghan operation to resign.

Comments

[The black]

For an inconvenient truth, they are punished always and everywhere, in the so-called beacons of democracy too

[Flashpoint]

Quote: Black

For an inconvenient truth, they are punished always and everywhere, in the so-called beacons of democracy too

Yes. The peasant had something to risk. Underground shoulder straps, seniority, pension and benefits. But - above honor.

[Peak]

US Marine Corps officer removed from office for calling on generals in charge of the operation in Afghanistan to "put shoulder straps on the table."

Is it possible SO - with the generals , creatures vulnerable and touchy, even if criticism is on the case? ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: PiK

US Marine Corps officer removed from office for calling on generals in charge of the operation in Afghanistan to "put shoulder straps on the table."

In this case, there is a situation with a DOUBLE BOTTOM in US policy, as such, i.e. both in foreign and domestic policy of the United States. Namely.

One side. Military experts around the world, and even in Poland, noted that the withdrawal of the US Armed Forces from Afghanistan, militarily and ORGANIZATIONAL, was unprofessional even before the ISIL explosions in Kabul. And the latest terrorist attacks by ISIS terrorists in Kabul have already gotten the Americans themselves!
therefore the demand of the American Lieutenant Colonel Schiller to the American generals, responsible for the withdrawal of the US Armed Forces from Afghanistan, "to put shoulder straps on the table" is quite ADEQUATE.

However, on the other hand. And who is the commander-in-chief of the US Armed Forces in the United States if not Biden ?! US President Biden is the Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces!
Therefore, Biden also bears his share of responsibility for the withdrawal of the American armed forces from Afghanistan.
And if American generals should be recognized and punished for their lack of professionalism, then Biden should also be punished as the COMMANDER OF THE USA!
А for this responsibility of the American generals and the Chief of Staff of the US Armed Forces, statements about Biden's professional insolvency as president of the United States, his impeachment, and so on will also be pulled. Once again, Democrats and Republicans will clash among themselves in the United States.

So in the United States, it is politically easier to silence Lieutenant Colonel Schiller than to impeach Biden.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Tatiana

And if American generals should be recognized and punished for their lack of professionalism, then Biden should also be punished as the COMMANDER OF THE USA!

And again, to me personally, in connection with this story, Gorbachev and his command for the withdrawal of our Western Group of Forces came to mind ...

[YOUR.]

and even in Poland

What authorities we have now! :)

[newcomer]

It is clear that he is aiming at politics. This is clear from his comments. I suppose he did not go for it himself, he is being led.

[t-12]

he is being led

Another "cunning plan"?

[newcomer]

No. A prudent Yankee cannot throw the epaulettes of an underground with three children and life on credit under their feet.

[alch3mist]

No. A prudent Yankee cannot throw the epaulettes of an underground with three children and life on credit under their feet.

Or maybe he decided that the surname obliges. The famous German writer Friedrich Schiller began his career with the drama "The Robbers".

[newcomer]

"Maybe it can't ...". Some kind of chamomile.

[URAL72]

Only a bad colonel does not dream of becoming a senator. Incidentally, isn't that Colonel Stewart from Die Hard?

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: newbie

It is clear that he is aiming at politics.

One hundred percent. And the phrase - "Although the days of my military career are over. But I am ready to continue to serve in the name of America and in another field. I see light on the horizon" - this confirms. Service most likely he already has, career growth judging by the actions he was not foreseen, but for criticism, pensions and awards are not deprived of And most likely a Republican. And by and large, the more vacillation and disagreement in American society and the army, the better.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: newbie

It is clear that he is aiming at politics. This is clear from his comments. I suppose he did not go for it himself, he is being led.

Why not? The chances of Biden getting the impeachment soldered are pretty high. And under the new president, he will immediately become a person who has suffered from the overthrown regime. An almost ready-made senator with a heroic past.

[newcomer]

Therefore, the "yes" is that it is not so easy to jump out of this "swamp".

[fruc]

Burst through when the cock pecked at the fifth point. Although it would be better for Scheller to continue his career (he will still not achieve anything) somewhere in a quieter corner, for example, in Zap. Europe.

[Roma 1977]

People after a competent PR will go into politics. There salaries are thicker.

[Flashpoint]

Quote: Roma-1977

People after a competent PR will go into politics. There salaries are thicker.

Not everyone likes to get into shit ...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Flashpoint

Not everyone likes to get into shit ...

Do you know what are the salaries of the sewers ...?

[Flashpoint]

Quote: Polite Elk

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Look around the US for yourself!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Flashpoint

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My God! How low the demand for talent and high art has become on the market! Where is this world heading ?! But in Soviet times ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Flashpoint

Yes. The peasant had something to risk. Underground shoulder straps, seniority, pension and benefits. But - above honor.

The field officers could not help but have questions. "Why was all this?"

Ryan B. Kogan, Captain of the United States Marine Corps. For his courage and heroism in battles against the enemy, serving as the commander of the "K" company, the third battalion, the 7th Marine Corps in Afghanistan from April 1, 2010 to September 15, 2010, he was presented with the Silver Star award.
In numerous battles, Captain Kogan, in spite of enemy fire, commanded soldiers directly on the front line. On June 23, 2010, in southern Musa Kula, his squadron came under heavy machine-gun and minimal fire. Under fire and bullets, he personally led the soldiers to attack the enemy position. Substituting himself under the bullets to find out the exact location of the enemy, Captain Kogan coordinated air support without leaving command of the attack. His fearless actions under fire resulted in the destruction of approximately 20 enemy fighters.

[URAL72]

I do not think that he will be fired for this, not to mention deprivation of seniority, pension or even title. The resonance is too wide. They removed it here, they will add it there. But it seems he himself decided to leave, apparently there is where.

[kenig1]

They will arrange hearings in the Senate, the lieutenant colonel will explain that it was on emotions, etc.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Black

For an inconvenient truth, they are punished always and everywhere, in the so-called beacons of democracy too

The Lights of Democracy are the most ferocious of all. A person is fired with a "wolf ticket"; if he is a person of a creative profession, he is deprived of his profession. The lieutenant colonel is thrown out of the army, it is possible that the pension will be cut or deprived altogether. And how will he raise his three boys? And educate them into real citizens of America.

[spirit]

To the Legion) or to the musicians

[t-12]

The lieutenant colonel will find a job for himself. Starting from private military / security companies and ending with leading work in any industry (the lieutenant colonel has experience in leading teams of hundreds, maybe thousands of people).

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The Lights of Democracy are the most ferocious of all. A person is fired with a "wolf ticket"; if he is a person of a creative profession, he is deprived of his profession. The lieutenant colonel is thrown out of the army, it is possible that the pension will be cut or deprived altogether. And how will he raise his three boys? And educate them into real citizens of America.

Pensions cannot be deprived. It is earned, and even convicted criminals are not deprived of it.

[Alex Justice]

Pensions cannot be deprived. It's earned.

Only the poor receive pensions in our country. If you live in prosperity, you will not see a pension.

[Finches]

I remember how we once appointed the Minister of Defense with a rare hoax, which went down in the history of the Armed Forces under the chase of "Stool", and so he developed a stupid piece of paper "The List of Restrictions and Prohibitions Applicable to Military Personnel" and ordered all the military to sign it by order. ... Otherwise, dismissal! There were 40 absolutely idiotic points, including a ban on criticizing the authorities ...

[URAL72]

Sorry, but in any army there is a ban on criticizing the authorities. This is called a violation of chain of command. Himself 10 years in the army, I've seen everyone.

[Finches]

Yes, I do not argue, but for this there is a military charter and officer ethics, why do idiotic documents then develop! However, I served in the army, as under the tsar for 25 years, so nothing will surprise me either!

[sabakina]

Quote: Finches

However, I served in the army, as under the tsar for 25 years, so nothing will surprise me either!

Zhenya, why lie? Under the tsar, you served as a guilty party, and you were engaged in a profession! Or kicked contacts?

[Finches]

I'm only talking about the numbers-25, and so it served more!

[den3080]

What an intolerant lieutenant colonel !! Three sons ... will grow up as men ...
By today's American standards, it is a terrible crime to say that.
For this, they probably removed
If I had said that they would grow up as black transgender people, then most likely I would have already tried on the colonel's shoulder straps.

Will go to the PMC to Eric Prince.

[knn54]

Again, the emergence of IS is directly related to the invasion of the Yankees and Co. in 2003 in Iraq and the TOTAL destruction of the country ..
After that, British intelligence was actively involved in ALL subversive actions. In 2016, the "incumbent" head of MI6, Alex Younger, publicly stated that British agents, "risking their lives every day", infiltrated the "upper echelons" of ISIS ** to ... prevent terrorist attacks on the streets of BRITISH cities. For anyone who is not British allies, his service is completely uninteresting.
The Yankees in Guantanamo have arranged for the terrorists "Refresher courses."
The CIA and MI6 knew in advance about the bloody attacks in Kabul, carried out by their students from the terrorist group ISIS **. The attacks were needed:
- the Biden administration in order to complete the evacuation from Afghanistan in time, discouraging hundreds of thousands of Afghans seeking a better life abroad from taking advantage of this opportunity.
-n the Taliban who doesn't want educated Afghans to leave the country ..
Moreover, Biden, referring to the CIA, himself let slip a few days before the terrorist attack.
MAIN THING, the US never wanted to accept refugees.
The Marine (a TRUE officer and a patriot) was still "lucky" - it could have ended in a tribunal.


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[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Black

For an inconvenient truth, they are punished always and everywhere, in the so-called beacons of democracy too

I remembered the old saying .. More times of the USSR. - "First a person is looking for the truth, and then a job!"... Times change but proverbs remain the same.

[SKVichyakow]

And what about us differently?

[YOU]

A brave deed. But the truth is not liked everywhere, the subordinates are not supposed to criticize their superiors. As with us, too, especially in the army.

[Wahmister 1970]

As Fomenko once said: - first you look for justice, then another place of work

[Thrifty]

Indeed, in its own right. And, as always in such cases, he was quickly "put in place" so that he knew his place, sorry for the pun ...

[Prisoner]

Subardination on the side, knee rules under the fifth point? Such situations in the Armed Forces of any country evoke a double feeling. It seems that a person has the right to his opinion and the right to express it, but it seems like it’s not good for an acting officer to take a blizzard against his fathers - to drive commanders.

[Mityay65]

If you are a serviceman, then publicly criticizing the command is a gross violation of command. Correctly fired.
And besides, why does this officer criticize the command, and not the political leaders? First of all, the perpetrators are the politicians who made the decisions. In the United States, the military is the executor of the will of politicians, they are only consulted, they are not the ones who make decisions.
The generals were given a clear order - to clear the A-stan at a pace by 31 August.
PS Although I fully support the activities of such officers in the decomposition of the US Army

[Prisoner]

Agree to all 100!

[Silver bullet]

Remember, a colleague, what happened to the commander of an aircraft carrier, who had a flash of Covid, who told the truth. Democracy and a set of all kinds of freedoms is a beautiful shine for citizens, and there will never be freedom of speech in the army, otherwise it is no longer an army.

[Avior]

Captain of the aircraft carrier "Theodore Roosevelt" Brett Crozier

Transferred to staff work.
The head of the WIS, who tried to fire him, was fired from the service himself

[Luminman]

But I am ready to continue to serve in the name of America and in another field.

Was he going to be a congressman?

[Prisoner]

Otherwise, where would he start to rage?

[Avior]

... I understand the rules of chain of command.

Doesn't seem to understand.
Or if he was going into politics, he decided to get a start.

[rotmistr60]

It is clear that they (the generals) are rushing about themselves, not knowing what to do, and here he is on social networks. Here is some of the anger and splashed out on him. It is possible that the matter can come to dismissal. Drew attention to his words

For me, America was and will be a light shining in the fog of chaos.

Oops. And who is wreaking havoc all over the world, isn't America Mr. Lieutenant Colonel? And you mean some kind of "light" although you yourself had previously admitted that there is a mess in Afghanistan due to the fault of your generals. Here, at the time, either take off the cross, or put on panties.

[Baron pardus]

You do not understand. You still don't understand anything. Read about "Manifest Destiny" - this is a concept according to which the United States is God's chosen state, and its greatness and power are predicted and given by God himself, and it is given the right by God himself, to spread its influence, power and bring "the light of democracy and freedom around the world. ". Just read what the Destiny Manifesto means. People BELIEVE it. We sow chaos - and we are allowed by God Himself, we do this for the greatness of our country and its power. We are allowed EVERYTHING if it is for the good of the United States. - this is how those who believe in the Destiny Manifesto will answer you.

[gridasov]

Many commentators should understand that war is like war. Top commanders know and are responsible for larger processes. And sometimes, at the cost of the lives of units, they save a large number of lives, and most importantly, they achieve tactical and strategic advantages. Therefore, officers for such acts should not only be fired, but also punished not for violation of command or something else, but for a lack of understanding of the structural tasks and divisions and officers of different ranks. Moreover, such actions can only lead to the destruction of the integrity of military structures, which is based on the unconditional subordination of some to others.

[faterdom]

That mess in Afghanistan, which is visible when NATO members are fleeing, is a mess. There is no smell of any structural tasks and a lack of organization here, though there are five stars on someone's shoulder straps, at least six or even nine.
It is enough just to recall the much larger, more difficult political and weather conditions, the conclusion of the OKSVA in the 89th year.

[Morrow]

This is a typically Asian understanding of the structure of power.

[Blue fox]

For me, America was and will be a light shining in the fog of chaos.

Not bad mosch set, it was already, only about Deutschland from the times of Aloizych.

[Vladimir61]

My purpose in life is to make America an effective instrument of diplomacy.

This is the whole of US diplomacy — gunboat diplomacy.

[Sasha1979]

This underground is the real officer. He told the truth because it is true. And not because someone, you see, may or may not like it.

[sifgame]

Well, as a person, he is right, of course, but take off your shoulder straps first, and then say what you want, criticize. Otherwise, what kind of army it is, in the end he swore an oath.

[kill the fascist]

All over the world, big ranks don't like being dunked in a puddle.

[faterdom]

Well done. Someone should start and tell the truth, although in America it is now not held in high esteem. As, incidentally, we do too.
I sincerely would like America to unravel the lies that it itself has heaped up with the hands of politicians, the Pentagon and the CIA.
Then all sorts of Nazi Ukraine will not be possible.
But the subordination and "fire!" - the methods of decrepit power - there is nothing more to argue in essence!

[novoku]

Nice, albeit tired face. A psychologist would say - a responsible image of a morally stable chela.

[Oleg Aviator]

Fine .... Shoot more.

[komandir8]

He can demand that either, only from his wife and then with a reservation, and so he declared himself as an uncompromising fighter against irresponsible and stupid generals, as a patriot of America, which is "a light shining in the fog of chaos" and "ready continue to serve in the name of America and in other fields. I see a light on the horizon ".... soon we will see him in the ranks of the legislature, and maybe eventually head the Department of Defense.

[Agent cooper]

A real officer is a real officer in any army.

[Baron pardus]

As I already said. Everyone understands everything, but they are silent - nothing personal, but almost no one wants to risk their career here. Decisions are made at such levels, and such money is tied there, such a policy, people with such power that for such people it is not just a lieutenant colonel - a general is not a hindrance. Crushed and not noticed, but everyone will have a lesson - they say, there was a man with a successful career. And he began to rock the boat, and his career was gone. It is possible that in a year or two he will be accused of sexually harassing someone 15 years ago. I told you - everyone understands everything, but a career is more expensive. And here people are an idealist. He also believes in something. Well, here's an example from him and make. Will fly out of the Marines, God forbid, without dishonorable discharge.
There is no democracy in the United States. There is no freedom in the United States. And honest people who have principles, and who do not want to remain silent, they very quickly leave from all places.

[sifgame]

In any country, they would probably at least be fired, everything on the case - violated the chain of command. There would be more such guys in the American army)

[tank64rus]

It turns out that the US Army also has honest lieutenant colonels and dishonest generals.

[WWI]

As a sign of solidarity with their officer, the soldiers will do the right thing if they support him.

[Borisych]

I agree with the lieutenant colonel, the soldiers pay for the mistakes of the generals. And Officer Scheller paid for his statements. This always happens, and the Russian army is no exception.

[Evil 55]

First, a person is looking for the Truth, and then another job ... the Truth of life ..