Kiev asks to preserve the transit of Russian gas until at least 2034

The Russian-Ukrainian gas agreement expires in 2025. Therefore, Kiev asks to keep the transit of Russian gas longer.

This was stated by the General Director of the Ukrainian company "Operator GTS" Sergei Makogon in an interview with the TV channel "Ukraine 24".

The head of the enterprise believes that Kiev needs to maintain gas transit through the Ukrainian territory until at least 2034. But he has no guarantees that Gazprom will meet Ukrainian wishes halfway. Therefore, Makogon proposes not to wait for the deadline stipulated by the contract, but to start negotiations with Russia on the continuation of transit now. He believes that a new agreement should be concluded for at least 15 years.

The Director General also notes that nothing threatens Ukrainian transit only when Nord Stream 2 is not loaded at full capacity, but only by 50 percent.

Russia will not agree to the use of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline at half its capacity, because then it will not achieve its main goal - depriving Ukraine of gas transit

- says Makogon.

The head of PJSC Gazprom Alexey Miller spoke about this earlier. He stated that the company intends to cooperate with Kiev after 2025. But the scale of joint work will depend on economic factors and the technical condition of the Ukrainian gas transportation system.

Comments

[Murmur 55]

Ish how they sang! But what about the declarations of 15 and subsequent years about independence from transit, PITTY AND NOTHING PERSONALITIES.

[Borik]

They rolled out their lips. Until the 34th year, they want to stick to the gas pipe and at the same time water us with mud.

[Shurik70]

Kiev? ASKING ?!
They never ask.
Only require

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Shurik70

Kiev? ASKING ?!

Yeah. Shchaz!
Kievite to Gilyak! He who does not jump is frozen! I am a girl, I do not want to go to the EU, but I want warm woolen knickers and a quilted jacket.

[The black]

And sho, Slovaks will be thrown? They get gas from Slovakia ... good, European .... here and further from there ...

[URAL72]

We have nothing to worry about. Until the 34th year, either Ukraine will disappear, or it will understand that it is necessary to obey the mother, and not the striped donkeys. Then already Russian will become the only state and Bandera will trample the zone. Possibly Chernobyl. We'll find the thorn.

[Alekseev]

"We have nothing to worry about"
That's right.
Nord Stream-2 will be loaded, not for that the Germans pulled it to themselves, albeit with the help of Gazprom, so that it was empty. Well, formally, they will give 50% to some "Rosneftegaz", which, also formally, will buy gas from the same Gazprom and the trick is in the bag: the third package of Geyrop has been complied with, and the pipeline is loaded, and tanga goes to the budget. Besides, the Gayrops are not stupid. Say, if necessary, winter, they say cold happened, then you can load the pipe in full, without restrictions. The main thing is that it is in working order.
And the courts are "for order"

[Cron]

Quote: Borik

They rolled out their lips. Until the 34th year, they want to stick to the gas pipe and at the same time water us with mud.

And where are all these thinking people who, before the coup, simply did not have the opportunity to show themselves? Where is the high-tech production, etc ..? They just sucked even more to the pipe and that's it.

[Lars971a]

Quote: Borik

They rolled out their lips. Until the 34th year, they want to stick to the gas pipe and at the same time water us with mud.

but, I think that it will be so, transit through Ukraine will be much more than 2025 ...................

[Alber alber]

Your colleague also thought, but it was not destiny ...

[Starover_Z]

The head of the enterprise believes that Kiev needs to maintain gas transit through the Ukrainian territory until at least 2034. But he has no guarantees that Gazprom will meet Ukrainian wishes halfway.

Let them pay for the transit of gas, and then please, maybe the gas will be put through the pipes!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Borik

They rolled out their lips. Until the 34th year, they want to suck on the gas pipe

It's true. They, along the way, have already both lips (upper and lower) have grown together into one monolithic trunk like a mastodon, with which they are ready to suck everything in a row - loans, transits, babos, Crimean rapans along with sand, seeds and other food, if only keep your quaint understatement for as long as possible.

[seti]

I wouldn't renew it in principle. On no terms. There is no extra gas .. high tariffs .. not reliable .. and a thousand other reasons. And he would have kept a fig in his pocket and a mournful grin in his dull eyes during negotiations.

[ccsr]

Quote: seti

I wouldn't renew it in principle. On no terms.

This is clearly overkill - we still have to first of all think with our heads and predict gas consumption in Europe at least until 2030. If gas consumption for power plants increases sharply due to the appearance of a huge number of electric vehicles, then we must be ready to quickly increase gas supplies to Europe, including through Ukraine. Do not think that the great gas war in Europe has already ended with the victory of Gazprom, because the Americans will not calm down anyway, and gas from Algeria or the Middle East will stop flowing. That is why we may need a Ukrainian pipe for another 5-10 years, unless, of course, the Europeans start whining and ask for the SP-3 laying, because of the cheapness of pumping along this route.
As one character said - "Calm, only calm", and then we'll see what will be beneficial to us.
In the meantime, the good news about SP-2

As of 13:00 Moscow time on 26.08.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX.
At 01:30 Moscow time "Fortuna" began lifting the pipe for further resumption of work. By this hour, 456 meters have already been covered.
It remains to lay 9593 meters.
The weather forecast for the next few days is favorable, although closer to Monday it may change.
"Akademik Chersky" is in the port of Kiel.

[seti]

Quote: ccsr

Quote: seti

I wouldn't renew it in principle. On no terms.

This is clearly overkill - we still have to first of all think with our heads and predict gas consumption in Europe at least until 2030.

Here I fundamentally disagree with you. If gas consumption grows, then the Europeans need to be pressed to increase the gas throughput through SP-1 from 50 to 100%, and SP-2 should also be pressed by 100%. But no, no. In addition, we have the Yamal pipeline through Belarus / Poland. Both the Blue Stream and the Turkish Stream. All this goes to the EU one way or another. There are also our companies who supply LNG there.
It is possible to consider transit through 4o4 only when the others are filled to capacity. Or when she or her pipe is under our complete control. And so let them take a bite.
If the EU does not want to, then let it look for natural gas on the side. As practice shows :
Norway - gas production is declining.
Algeria is the same.
Holland - from the next year in general "o".
America and Qatar are LNG - but this is where the price is higher. So it's not a fact that Europe.

Rosneft and Novatek will come to an agreement with them.
For us, it still makes sense to sell at an overpriced price than to take in volume. And gradually purge all valuable fractions from gas in UstLuga. Let them get it without valuable components.
They need gas - let them remove the terms of the third energy package or bypass it. They can.

[ccsr]

Quote: seti

If gas consumption grows, then the Europeans need to be pressed to increase the gas throughput through SP-1 from 50 to 100%, and SP-2 should also be pressed by 100%.

They will be fully loaded anyway, just look at the reduction in domestic gas production in Europe.

Quote: seti

In addition, we have the Yamal pipeline through Belarus / Poland. Both the Blue Stream and the Turkish Stream.

They will be loaded anyway, as soon as the production of electric vehicles reaches 40% of the total output (which the Europeans themselves predict) - but there are also pitfalls with batteries.

Quote: seti

So it's not a fact that Europe.
Rosneft and Novatek will come to an agreement with them.

On the contrary, they will immediately become more accommodating in all energy areas, up to receiving electricity from our nuclear power plants and from Belarus.

Quote: seti

They need gas - let them remove the terms of the third energy package or bypass it. They can.

Never mind - they have foreseen this for a long time, so as soon as it squeezes, everything will be changed.

[Aaron Zawi]

And who does Mr. Makogon represent besides himself?

[Real Pilot]

Moscow wants to keep transit, in fact, even further, at least until 3024!
But does she want to preserve SUCH Kiev, in its political sense?

The power will change to a normal Russian / pro-Russian - then there will be no questions ...
Its own, once built by the Great Country, there is no point in voluntarily breaking it.

[Egor53]

Pathetic and insignificant, but NOT individuals, but. I ask the moderator to note that the word "" is literary, and not obscene, and its use does not contradict the rules of the site.

[Egor53]

The word that I got blacked out begins with the letter B, but this is not a designation of a woman of low social responsibility, but a word designating a ruminant.

[isv000]

Therefore, Makogon proposes not to wait for the deadline stipulated in the contract, but to start negotiations with Russia on the continuation of transit now.

Negotiation? With the aggressor? I present a picture: a delegation of the Economic Council is going to Berlin to negotiate the supply of anthracite from the Donbass. In 1942 ...

[Tochilka]

People's Commissariat. there were economic councils until the 32nd and after the 57th until the 65th.
And so the comment is gorgeous! Plus from me

[isv000]

Quote: Tochilka

People's Commissariat. there were economic councils until the 32nd and after the 57th until the 65th.

God bless him, with the name, the main thing is - seven years old, female dogs, "are at war" with Russia - and don't turn on the gas!

[avg]

Quote: isv000

Negotiation? With the aggressor?

And not just negotiations, but demands ... Absolutely boorish demands not only to us, but to everyone - to the EU, the Germans, the Americans, the French. But about the blockade of Crimea, cutoffs of water, electricity have already been successfully forgotten. In the fall, calmly, they will ask for gas and electricity in a neighborly way.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: avg

and the requirements ...

"How do you give a petition to the king?"

[Prisoner]

And you are not ashamed to negotiate with the "aggressor"? Learn to behave with your elders, then state your request.

[Markus wolf]

I do not understand ... But what about the ongoing, in the opinion of many maydanutyh, Russian-Ukrainian war? This is sho: to fight and pump gas ... ?? !!
Or put on panties, or remove the cross, Banderlog !!!

[seti]

Quote: Markus Wolf

I do not understand ... But what about the ongoing, in the opinion of many maydanutyh, Russian-Ukrainian war? This is sho: to fight and pump gas ... ?? !!
Or put on panties, or remove the cross, Banderlog !!!

You don't understand anything .... it's different

[Blacksmith 55]

Pay back 3 billion with interest, then you can talk.
But even then it would be mutually beneficial.

[isv000]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

Pay back 3 billion with interest, then you can talk.

And thank you, let the official show you for the salvation of the chubats from Kabul!

[CommanderDIVA]

Ukraine is in the fork here, in the language of artillery, Gazprom links the possibility of our gas transit after December 2024 with the technical condition of the Ukrainian gas transportation system, which is a priori failure for the Ukrainian authorities, since it is possible to get to the bottom of the pillar and continue gas transit through the tamed territory, Gazprom has no particular desire , Ze and Co have no money to modernize the pipe, the European Union and Washington will not invest in the pipe, the capacities of alternative routes for the supply of Russian gas to Europe will be enough even without the pipe, so the Nazi regime will not count several billion in hard currency, and this will directly affect the state of the political situation in Ukraine after 2024, here and not far from the new Maidan

[vitvit123]

I, of course, do not pretend to be an analyst, but Gazprom is linking the extension of the contract with consumers in Europe .. and this linking is very competent and smart .. if Europe buys so much gas that we cannot pump through all other flows (i.e. huge, unrealistic volume), then you can pump it through the steeple .. i.e. if we do not pump through the ukr, then the Europeans are to blame - they consume little gas ..

[CommanderDIVA]

So this is the whole point of the pragmatic, and in relation to Ukraine, the Jesuit approach of Gazprom to this problem

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I also drew attention to this fact. Everything is quite logical - we will not be in time - we will connect the Ukrainian GTS. All the envy of Europe, in a word. Gazprom translated the arrows, famously.)

[Peter is not the first]

In addition to linking with the technical state of the Ukrainian GTS, Gazprom should also rely on Ukraine's aspirations to the EU and its legislation. Which requires not long-term contracts, but an auction booking of gas pipelines: If there is an order from Europe, then we book and pay for transit. If there is no order, then let the owner of the gas pipeline suck his paw.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Judging by the speech of someone from the management, there are three main requirements: the volume of gas purchased by Europe, the market price of gas transit and the technical condition of the Ukrainian gas transportation system. The last criterion is obviously impracticable. Well done!

[501 Legion]

asks a lot. why is it that someone is obliged to feed them, if alternative ways of gas delivery will work.

[Incvizitor]

Do they seriously think that 404 will live to 2034?

[Viktor Sergeev]

He asks strangely: crap and demands. We must forget about the existence of Ukraine.

[RoTTor]

semi \ under \ the state should not smoke the light so much and spoil the air, it is high time to eliminate this malignant infection

[Tochilka]

Simple question.
In quantitative terms, the state budget of Ukraine is expressed in what amounts?
What are these 1.5-3 billion dollars to them?
Or is it a bunch of "bugs" that have stuck to the GTS and have nothing to do with Ukraine and its population? Judging by the number of publications, the top of Naftogaz and the president's entourage are vitally interested in extending the transit. But not the population.

[svan26]

There are prices and obligations under which Gazprom will sign a contract tonight and for a hundred years. Let them offer!

[tatarin1972]

One word - miserable!

[isv000]

Makogon proposes not to wait for the deadline stipulated in the contract, but to start negotiations with Russia on the continuation of transit now.

You are giving a petition to the king, slave!

[123456789]

Gazprom will meet Ukrainian wishes halfway.

and exceeding expectations, will block the Dnieper.

[tarragon]

To find out what will come of this, you need to let them live without transit

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

,, to let them live without transit ,, Nesalezhno and independent !!)

[Gardener91]

Makogon in my area jokingly called people weak in the brain. Well, or a stupid one, if it's easier.

[Black cowl]

You don’t understand, the war is going on in the Donbass, and gas flows through the pipe. In Ukrainian geometry, they do not intersect. Moreover, the gas in the GTS is purified, in contrast to the SP-2, and is supplied to Europa already independent, that is, freed from the raid of totalitarianism.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Transit will be! But ... little-a-little-a-little ...)

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Transit will be! But ... little-a-little-a-little ...)

For lighters only? then it is better to immediately sell them lighters!

[Stepan S]

And where do they ask for it? They demand, and they demand very arrogantly and self-confidently. With such conversations, transit should generally be reduced to zero and then we should talk. With others.

[hagen]

Therefore, Makogon proposes not to wait for the deadline stipulated in the contract, but to start negotiations with Russia on the continuation of transit now.

First, who is Makogon in initiating the negotiation process between Ukraine and Russia? For this he needs to come to an agreement with the Banderaites. Secondly, you have to be completely stupid to expect from Russia any threats to Ukraine. Literate and self-confident people do not threaten, but make real moves. This is how the negotiations will develop and what position Miller will take on them, this will show his true attitude towards the opposite side. Realizing that Alexey Borisovich is by nature a very ambitious person, ambitious and not suffering from excessive sentimentality, he will never forget the tricks of Naftogaz and the Stockholm NPP. And therefore, he will "choke" Makogon with all the proletarian hatred and with a Jesuit smile on his face.

[Brturin]

Quote: Hagen

And therefore, he will "choke" Makogon with all proletarian hatred and with a Jesuit smile on his face

So he can see something like that, and if you take his quote, he does not want to be alone ...
“We have no guarantees that the contract will be renewed. Therefore, we are negotiating with the governments of the United States and Germany regarding the provision of such guarantees. And we believe that the most significant guarantee is the renewal or continuation of the existing agreement now, without waiting for 2025, for the next 15 years "

[hagen]

Quote: BrTurin

So he can see something like this

So many years to shit under someone else's door !!! Probably the most stubborn Banderlog has already realized that the outgoing owner will be displeased with feces on the door rug and somehow he will express this displeasure to the zatsu ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

give, give, give, freebie, freebie, freebie

[Egor53]

Gas transit through Ukraine should be imposed with the following conditions: mandatory transit of water to Crimea and a reduction in the cost of transit to the cost of transit through the North Stream-2.
Also, the recognition of the Crimea by the Russians, as well as the whole of Novorossia. After such demands from Russia, the Ukrainian authorities will hang themselves on Bankovskaya.

[tiger19]

Conditions - to take the Kherson, Chernigov, Zaporozhye regions as collateral. No money? Goodbye, territory!

[Warhead-xnumx]

Jokes are jokes, and ours will definitely agree. Once again.

[BAI]

The head of the enterprise believes that Kiev needs to maintain gas transit through the Ukrainian territory until at least 2034. But he has no guarantees that Gazprom will meet Ukrainian wishes halfway.

It took only 7 years and they figured it out. For the ancient history of the great ukrov - an instant. Instantly guessed.

[Hiller]

That's the whole ukropitek philosophy. War - war, and do not touch enemy gas for free. It's like Paulus would have demanded a corridor to get out of the Stalingrad boiler. Scoundrels without shame and conscience!

[Alber alber]

If trousers need something in terms of the economy, i.e. where the money can be stolen, we must always link this with politics, from Crimea to Novorossia, the Yankees understand this very well and give excellent examples, but ours do not want to learn in any way

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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[Fitter65]

Kiev asks to keep the transit of Russian gas longer.

It's strange how - Kiev asks! Usually the country defending Europe demands, but here it asks ...

[altimo1]

Lazy, disgusting misunderstanding, with the indecent name "Ukraine".

[aszzz888]

The Russian-Ukrainian gas agreement expires in 2025.

To be sure, then

In December 2019, a ten-year gas contract between Russia and Ukraine ended. Countries have signed a new one, designed for five years - until the end of 2024.

[Looking for]

and you can shed dirt on Russia for 10 years with impunity.

[7 poplar]

and maybe even give gas for free?

[sifgame]

As he asks, we have a war, their president, field marshal, reminds us of this in every speech, I don’t grieve about this as his kulem or kulebyak. It is necessary to stop this mess, or they are "at war" with us and sit without gas and oil products, or enjoy the benefits of civilization and sit quietly with their tongues in one place

[yfast]

Ticks demand to maintain access to the body for another 12 years!