Estonian President predicted losses to Nord Stream 2

The launch of Nord Stream 2 means that Ukraine will not be able to rely on revenues from the transit of Russian gas in the long term. This is one of the reasons why Tallinn opposed the construction of this gas pipeline.

Estonian President Kersti Kaljulaid stated this.

Another reason is the European strategy of phasing out hydrocarbon fuels and switching to green energy. The European Union plans to complete this process by 2050. And the appearance on the market of large quantities of natural gas at low prices will slow down the implementation of this strategy.

Therefore, the Estonian president fears that companies whose profits depend on gas consumption will lobby for the interests of Russian suppliers. They will certainly argue, says Kaljulaid, that gas is an environmentally friendly fuel, comparing it to coal. Thus, in her opinion, gas from Russia poses a threat to the European ecology.

Also, the President of Estonia predicted losses to Nord Stream 2. She counts. That such large funds have been invested in it that they are unlikely to be able to pay off in the foreseeable future. On what basis the political official makes this conclusion is not clear. It is possible that such a mantra is needed to calm ourselves ...

Earlier, Kersti Kaljulaid stated that Ukraine will need at least several decades to join the European Union. She also warned European investors against investing in the economy of this country, as they can easily lose them due to the high level of corruption in the local judicial system.

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[Reserve buildbat]

The Estonian woman barks - the snail carries. The next nonsense of the illiterate.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Stroibat stock

moan barks - the snail carries.

she talks about distant 2050 year: by this year either the padishah will die or the donkey will die ..

By the same year, more than 50% of the population of France, Holland, etc., according to the calculations of Western demographers, will already be non-French, non-Dutch, etc. and no one knows that this Euro-caliphate will want

[Bolt cutter]

no one knows what this euro-caliphate wants

Union and fruitful cooperation with the long ago proclaimed caliphate al-Urus

[Tenet]

how not to get cold at your funeral

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Look what ... It turns out that the long-nosed Estonian (and part-time American mongrel) Kaljulaid is a major specialist in gas and economics ... I didn't know!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Olgovich

she talks about the distant year 2050: by this year either the padishah will die or the donkey will die ..

Something like this.
She should be concerned that over thirty years of independence and getting rid of the Soviet "occupation" the Baltic region has lost 1/3 of its population, and here, by 2050, almost the same - 29 years. By that time, they will have 10 Krona batteries for a quarter, or 1 car battery for a five-year period.

[alexmach]

The population in Estonia is growing now, mainly due to migration. Mostly from the former Soviet republics, from the European part.

And green energy has its own tricks - the main part of Estonian generation is local coal, moreover, the dirtiest varieties. Who else would be worried about the prospects for gas.

[ee2100]

Not coal, but shale.

[Siberian54]

Have the Ukrainians come to Estonia in large numbers?

[Siberian54]

Actually, I do not know such a nation, they have been people with South Russian surnames or lyakhi.

[Siberian54]

In the previous one, I named them by their hairstyle, as in life, but the editors, in my opinion, are shrouded in European values, therefore, the national flags have been removed and strange word substitutions are being made.

[alexmach]

Yes, I myself seem to have come in large numbers from Ukraine. Yes, the Ukrainians are on the march most of all, both constantly emigrating and all kinds of seasonal workers. At construction sites, for example, some Ukrainians.
There are still a relatively large number of Belarusians and Russians, and other Balts are also common. There are also all sorts of colorful citizens and their number is growing mainly students .. or it seems to me so because I live near the university.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

The loss of 1/3 of the population is an old mantra, data from 1989 are taken and compared with 2019. Only in the 89th Soviet troops are still in the Estonian SSR, and in 2019 they are no longer in Estonia. And there were still quite a few troops, I still went to school (Russian), but when the troops were withdrawn, it was immediately noticeable even at school, many classmates and teachers disappeared. It was in Tartu, there was such a sickly airfield at one time ... according to the latest data, exactly as many as left Estonia for the EU, came to Estonia from Ukraine, Belarus and the same Russian Federation) something like that ... and from Ukraine people are rushing so that for 5 years already positive demography due to migration)

[Alex777]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

and from Ukraine people are rushing so that for 5 years already positive demography due to migration)

When are you going to join Ukraine?

[Pacquale Pestrini]

Judging by how they are mastering Estonia, they will rather join)

[Alex777]

Usually they all pull to the hut.

[dmmyak40]

Judging by your name, are you a big fan of Nosov? Principles, do not be surprised at anything and never wash, observe?

[Pacquale Pestrini]

I have long ceased to be surprised, but to stop washing until it does not work out very well)

[dmmyak40]

Well, as they say, God help! From an early age, my main character is Neznam Neznamovich!
PS: someone slapped you a minus ... I added a plus sign.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

There are a lot of minuses, I'm used to it, apparently it's more pleasant to think that everyone in Estonia will soon die out, and the rest will scatter from hunger))
The most interesting thing is that our news about Russia is broadcasted in about the same vein, 70% of Estonians are sure that Russia is still in the 90s)

[Kawado]

Where to migrate? There is little work, there is even less paid work, without knowing the language, you will never find it at all (if you only collect strawberries on the farm for a bowl of soup).
And vice versa, according to the words of employers, normal workers are also not to be found.
And Estonians are not particularly fond of migrants.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

I'm embarrassed to ask where the infa comes from? Did the women in the bath talk? I come from Estonia, as if I know what I'm saying, you can get a job with knowledge of Russian without any problems. I personally know a family from Ukraine, who in 2 years learned the language and received Estonian citizenship, after receiving it, they moved further to Finland, and everything is fine with them.

[Bolt cutter]

from Ukraine, who learned the language in 2 years and received Estonian citizenship

https://www.eesti.ee/en/citizenship-and-documents/citizenship/estonian-citizenship
Minimum 8 years for citizenship, no?

[Pacquale Pestrini]

I said that they had learned the language in 2 years and received citizenship. I didn't say they came 2 years ago though.

[alexmach]

Little work, less paid work

Well, depending on what little means to you, and what paid means to you. In general, in comparison with Ukraine, there are at least an order of magnitude more opportunities.

without knowing the language, you can't find at all

Well, it depends where how. I was passing the exam together with a Pole guy who has been living in Estonia for 1,5 years. He said that he needed to work. I learned about as well in my year and a half as I did in 5.

And vice versa, from the words of employers, normal workers cannot be found either.

it is so everywhere and always

And Estonians are not particularly fond of migrants.

And where will they go from migrants then?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

according to the latest data, exactly as many as left Estonia for the EU, came to Estonia from Ukraine, Belarus and the same Russian Federation) something like that ... and from Ukraine people are rushing so that for 5 years already positive demography due to migration)

I do not argue that migration flows and shuttle-migration runs take place, but a migrant who has arrived will still be with you in the status of a "non-citizen".
You are missing one SMALL, but very important nuance, namely, the reduction in the number of the titular peoples of the Baltic states, which, at the current rates of decline in the birth rate and natural mortality, in half a century can be entered into the register of disappearing small peoples of the Finno-Ugric group.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

I am Russian, and I have nothing against the reduction of the title nation)
For me, so let the Slavs come)

[ccsr]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

something like this ... and people from Ukraine are rushing so that for 5 years already positive demography due to migration)

You have to understand that Ukrainian will soon become the second state language - we congratulate you, you probably have long wanted Ukrainians to live instead of Russians. Just keep in mind that these are not Russians, they will quickly show you what Kuz'ka's mother is in linguistic terms, you will have to run somewhere, which the Estonians have been doing for a long time. So who will live on your lands then?

[gurzuf]

They will show Kuzkin's mother, but at the same time they will still speak in Russian. As they say, we will smoke, but we will not quit drinking.

[Pacquale Pestrini]

In fact, most, if not the same Russians come and speak Russian, for me they are already Russians. Not all of them are sick in the head, there are a lot of normal guys. There are also many people from the Russian Federation and Belarus

[venik]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

Only in 89th Soviet troops are still in the Estonian SSR, and in 2019 they are no longer in Estonia.

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And where does the troops? In the days of the USSR, the statistical registration of the population was carried out not according to the place of stay, but according to the REGISTRATION! The conscripts (rank and file and even officers "jackets") had a residence permit at the place of conscription! There they were taken into account! Only regular officers, warrant officers and warrant officers received a residence permit (usually temporary) at the place of service and only when they were provided with housing! How many of them were there? Well, if you count with families, then God forbid if 15 percent of the total number ... AND HOW MANY troops were stationed in Estonia? Million? 100 thousand? 10 thousand? I think even less .... Now take 15% of this and how much will you get? One and a half thousand ?!
And these fifteen hundred have so seriously distorted the demographic statistics of Estonia ??? Do not tell my slippers!

[Pacquale Pestrini]

http://scucin-avia.narod.ru/garnizony/zheludok/132tbap.htm
It was only in Tartu, there was a base in Paldiski, anti-aircraft gunners in Võru, google how much there was in a country that you can drive all over in 3-4 hours))
In Tartu, the military town of Shanghai was 1/4 of the city)))

[venik]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

http://scucin-avia.narod.ru/garnizony/zheludok/132tbap.htm
It was only in Tartu, there was a base in Paldiski, anti-aircraft gunners in Võru, google how much there was in a country that you can drive all over in 3-4 hours))
In Tartu, the military town of Shanghai was 1/4 of the city)))

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It's all: "blah-blah-blah"!!! Do you want to prove that there was a military contingent exceeding 10 thousand people on the territory of Estonia in Soviet times ... Oh my God!

[alexmach]

HOW MANY troops were stationed in Estonia? Million? lol 100 thousand? laughing 10 thousand? I think even less ...

Are you kidding me? Have you looked at the map for a long time? Here, under every bush in Soviet times, there was a military unit. Tallinn and Paldijki were among the main bases of the Baltic Fleet. And not only them, there were some military objects along the entire coast.

[Albert1988]

Quote: alexmach

Are you kidding me? Have you looked at the map for a long time? Here, under every bush in Soviet times, there was a military unit. Tallinn and Paldijki were among the main bases of the Baltic Fleet. And not only them, there were some military objects along the entire coast.

That's right, just who counts the stationed troops as a population?

[alexmach]

Well, above, I wrote a broom at least about officers, sergeants, warrant officers and their families. There were a lot, according to the recollections of the locals, a lot left at once, just the children with whom they were walking at one moment became several times less.

+ There are also a bunch of border guards - almost the entire coastal line was a border zone.

[Albert1988]

Quote: alexmach

Well, above, I wrote a broom at least about officers, sergeants, warrant officers and their families. There were a lot, according to the recollections of the locals, a lot left at once, just the children with whom they were walking at one moment became several times less.

I will repeat - according to Soviet statistics, the local population was considered to be so many constantly living people! Therefore, they simply take the then statistical data (which do not take into account any military and their families) and subtract today's ones, they get a decline of almost 20% of the population ...

[alexmach]

A .. are you all about the fact that the population has fallen? Yes, it really fell .. And where is it, tell me over the past 30 years, then?

[isv000]

Quote: Olgovich

she talks about the distant year 2050: by this year either the padishah will die or the donkey will die ..

Zelensky bit her, saying about a powerful fleet by 2035 ...

[Bolt cutter]

about the distant year 2050

In 1995, I read the same forecast of authoritative experts - that in 2020 the population of Europe will be more than half of colored people. It didn’t come true.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Olgovich

she talks about the distant year 2050: by this year either the padishah will die or the donkey will die ..

I do not know.

Earlier, Kersti Kaljulaid stated that Ukraine will need at least several decades to join the European Union. She also warned European investors against investing in the economy of this country, as they can easily lose them due to the high level of corruption in the local judicial system.

But then she was right.

[smart ass]

From her point of view, the sprottle line is much more profitable

[Kawado]

Well, as far as Estonia is concerned, it is in principle right, there 1,3 million people can live on green fuel. But what to do in Germany, where the main production facilities of the EU are concentrated, she somehow did not think. There is, of course, an option to transfer everything to Russia, then SP2 will be really unprofitable, but it will be such a free fit))

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

And what would Madame be so worried about other people's days.

[marchcat]

While the European Union will switch to "green" in 2050. I'm afraid the Baltics will not happen either. For myself, my dear ones would be more worried than looking after other people's money.

[dorz]

Recently, Merkel spoke about gas for Europe: "At the latest in 25 years, gas from Russia to Europe will not be exported at all or in much smaller volumes. Europe in 25 years will no longer depend on gas imports, including from Russia, said German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who was in Kiev on an official one-day visit on Sunday.

Source: https://ria.ru/20210822/merkel-1746753361.html

[Alexey RA]

Quote: dorz

At the latest in 25 years, gas from Russia to Europe will not be exported at all or in much smaller volumes. Europe in 25 years will no longer depend on gas imports, including from Russia, said German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who was in Kiev on an official one-day visit on Sunday.

That is, in 25 years, the chemical industry in Europe will die safely? Optimistic ...

[dorz]

Germany guarantees the transit of Russian gas to Ukraine after 2025 ($ 1,5 billion per year for transit). Such a sickly feeding for the brotherly people.

[smart ass]

And a bunch of green battery-powered vehicles will need to be charged from the mains! And oh my God, electricity in the network is not cheap atomic, but as a rule, green, safe on gas!

[Vadim237]

Recently, Merkel spoke about gas for Europe: “At the latest, in 25 years, gas from Russia to Europe will not be exported at all or in much smaller volumes. Europe in 25 years will no longer depend on gas imports, including from Russia - Yeah, just a question what they will switch to in terms of power generation from nuclear power plants abandoned coal-fired power plants abandoned - they will refuse gas-fired - hydrogen and how they are going to get it without large power generation solar power plants and windmills will not generate tens and hundreds of gigawatts, and last winter showed such generation has big problems in terms of trouble-free operation under the influence of natural factors - in general, and in general, this whole green transition is nothing more than a grandiose trick for suckers.

[Brturin]

Quote: Vadim237

in general, and in general, this whole green transition is nothing more than a grandiose bogeyman for suckers.

They are only bred in such quantities that ..... Recently - There are options for boiler models that can switch to burning hydrogen, however, they will cost £ 100 more than a standard gas boiler for £ 2000. Climate advisers say hydrogen will only be able to heat about 11% of homes because the supply of hydrogen will be limited. Most homes are expected to be heated by heat pumps that extract heat from air, earth, or water - a sort of reverse fridge that sells for between £ 6000 and £ 18. /news/polit/000.html
The manufacturers of all these new boilers and pumps will not remain at a loss, but the question remains at whose expense this banquet? And so far there are more questions than answers - if, as the British calculated, only 11% of houses will receive hydrogen, then what should the rest do - an electric stove, electric heating ... and here refrigerators, TV ... sort of like global warming, only the heat is abnormal, then frost raises the whole rank, and these are all peaks of consumption ... the light flashed and life stopped ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: BrTurin

Most homes are expected to be heated by heat pumps, which extract heat from air, earth, or water - something like a refrigerator.

Which have yet to be created))) Or it may so happen that nothing will work out)))

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Vadim237

Recently, Merkel spoke about gas for Europe:

As early as next year, Frau Merkel's main occupation will be growing spinach and tulips on her backyard. Therefore, with a clear conscience, she can make any predictions before the "demobilization". But, let's give it its due - despite the strong pressure from the n-owls, it defended the SP-2, and hence the future Russian-German / European relations. Now she is talking in favor of the poor, with the aim of sweetening the pills for the disaffected and flew past the checkout.

[alexmach]

Yeah, the only question is, what will they switch to in terms of power generation from nuclear power plants, they abandoned coal-fired power plants, they refused - they will refuse gas-fired ones - hydrogen and how they are going to get it without large power generation

Why get it without big power generation then? Nuclear power plants in Russia generate electricity, get hydrogen there, and transport it to Europe through existing gas pipelines instead of gas. Everything seems to be simple.

[Albert1988]

Quote: alexmach

Why get it without big power generation then? Nuclear power plants in Russia generate electricity, get hydrogen there, and transport it to Europe through existing gas pipelines instead of gas. Everything seems to be simple.

I think that everything will be simpler - Russian nuclear power plants generate electricity and it is sent via wires to Europe ...

[Tochilka]

In 25 years, the funds invested in the construction of the gas pipeline will pay off in any way. It is not clear where the "green" fools will lead the European energy sector during this time. IMHO.

[Siberian54]

Dmitry \ What are your concerns, you are from a family of gas oligarchs?

[dorz]

Quote: Siberian54

Dmitry \ What are your concerns, you are from a family of gas oligarchs?

We will not see the difference whether the pipe will be closed or closed. From the word at all. The beneficiaries of this business are at most 100 people - this is the notorious salary of 1 million rubles. a day that the "chief" considers normal and natural in state-owned companies.

[ccsr]

Quote: marchcat

While the European Union will switch to "green" in 2050.

It will not transfer, because the hydrocarbon fuel that is poured into hundreds of millions of cars in Europe will need to be compensated for by the electricity that is obtained from the combustion of the same gas at power plants. They will not be able to cover millions of tons of gasoline and diesel fuel consumed with green energy, which is why gas will remain the main raw material for generating electricity, unless, of course, a fundamentally new type of energy production is created until 2050. So far, all the talk about controlled thermonuclear fusion has remained talk going on for 60 years, without any progress. Perhaps the traditional nuclear energy will replace gas, but I somehow can't believe it after Fukushima, although this is an opportunity for us to make good money.

[fruc]

Earlier Kersti Kaljulaid stated, predicted, warned, concludes .......

Looking at her you might think. that this Estonian politician had just been pulled out from under the cow, no culture, illiterate, nyurka in one word.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: frruc

Looking at her ...

Well, you have endurance! When I found one woman among four men, I crossed myself!

[dauria]

Well, you have endurance! When I found one woman among four men, I crossed myself!

Well, you have attentiveness ... Which one is the woman?

[Tochilka]

Which have. Yes, and not a manly unfamiliar lady publicly find fault with. A purely personal opinion.

[fruc]

I completely agree with you if Mrs. Kersti Kaljulaid would not have been a public figure who occupies such a high position. There are norms of decency and a certain ethics, which she clearly does not possess, allows herself to stoop to statements of rumors and lies.

[Tochilka]

I'm talking about comments about the appearance.
let the statements made to her remain on her conscience

[alch3mist]

I'm talking about comments about the appearance.
let the statements made to her remain on her conscience

Anger and lies are slowly but very clearly reflected on the face. Do you think Albright, Nuland, Rice, Clinton, and the entire State Department, would be so ugly ... [well, you get the idea] if they weren't lying hags? So the appearance of the Estonian president is fairly earned.

[Tochilka]

there is age))

[shinobi]

Still, she would not worry, such money is passing by, and not pinching off. Skakuas out, very quickly figured out how it would end for them, but they hoped for a hegemon.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

And what would Madame be so worried about other people's days.

Because if you give money to Ukraine, it will get less or not get it at all!

Ukraine will need at least several decades to join the European Union. She also warned European investors against investing in the economy of this country, as they can easily lose them due to the high level of corruption in the local judicial system.

She's worried about her pocket!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

.. so that madam would be so worried about other people's days.

She is worried, how she will remember how the Finns threw the Estonians with the construction of the Streams, and she is worried

[Thrifty]

You need to remind yourself, so the chicken decided to promote in this way

[notingem]

Several thousand Afghans will be given a permanent residence, they will think where to get the mutton for them to feed

[Mountain shooter]

Another "Kassandra", Tallinn spill. Terrible losses when the gas price on the "spot" is above $ 500 per thousand cubic meters. She just has bad advisors. Slow.

[Joker62]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Another "Kassandra", Tallinn spill. Terrible losses when the gas price on the "spot" is above $ 500 per thousand cubic meters. She just has bad advisors. Slow.

Duc, they are completely inhibited!

[rotmistr60]

Estonian President predicted losses to Nord Stream 2

Well, if the Estonian president herself said, then of course Gazprom should be able to drain the water. How much shit is in this manlike body, and Russophobia rushes from all cracks.

The European Union plans to complete this process by 2050

It is not yet known whether the EU will continue to exist in its current composition in 30 years and whether their economy will be bogged down by "green" ideas.

[aszzz888]

Earlier, Kersti Kaljulaid stated that Ukraine will need at least several decades to join the European Union. She also warned European investors against investing in the economy of this country, as they can easily lose them due to the high level of corruption in the local judicial system.

So this is quite dгgood business!

[tralflot1832]

This is how she works out the order from Ziu, as if she did not fit the color of her dress!

[lwxx]

Quote: tralflot1832

It is she who is so ordered from the siu

Do not confuse Zyu and Ze these are two completely different clowns.

[tralflot1832]

I apologize, I constantly fall for this. In my head, there is such a link: Whoever Ze puts into a pose with the letter Zyu, the grateful Ukrainian people will erect a monument to that. Natsykov, please do not worry, for you there is glass wool under this monument.

[lwxx]

Quote: tralflot1832

Who will Ze put in a pose with the letter Zyu

[aszzz888]

tralflot1832 (Andrey S.)
Yesterday, 11: 30

+3
This is how she works out the order from Ziu, as if she did not fit the color of her dress! lol

With a spin on the back!

[PPD]

Everything mixed up in the Oblonsky house.
Europe switches to "green" energy if it switches in 50, so the flow, which will be launched clearly earlier, is unprofitable. Exactly in 25-30 years, well, what a payback, since there will be no profits in Ukraine
Logic probably drowned itself out of grief long ago.
The world of such a mathematician has lost, it seems.

[tihonmarine]

On what basis the political official makes this conclusion is not clear.

The accountant knows better.

[oldzek]

and her forecast reminds me of the fable "fox and grapes."

[76SSSR]

Earlier, Kersti Kaljulaid stated that Ukraine will need at least several decades to join the European Union.

It is a thankless task to make plans. By that time, there may already be nowhere to enter.

[igorspb]

Why didn't she comment on the rise in gas prices in Estonia itself?

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: igorspb

Why didn't she comment in any way?

In Kiev, she said a lot, dill in shock.
While in Kiev, the Estonian leader broke her personal record for inappropriate speech
For some reason, Kaljulaid shared her impressions of her visit to the Chongar checkpoint near Crimea - of course, from its Ukrainian side.
Speaking to a couple of hundred participants in the "platform", the Estonian president recalled - they say, there were many Ukrainians, including old people and children, who spent hours trying to get to their relatives in the "occupied" Crimea. At the same time, their path was surrounded on all sides by mines, naturally, laid on the Ukrainian side.
“At some point, a three-year-old child began to run away from his parents and ran across a mined field. Dear friends, it was a very deep negative experience for me, ”concluded Kaljulaid.
Her best pearls were dedicated to the role of the Russian language in Estonia.
“My grandchildren actually go to a Russian kindergarten. Because in our family a seven-year-old child who knows only one language is considered an unreasonable waste, ”the president said.
And added:
“Estonians who speak Russian do not necessarily speak the language of [Russian President] Vladimir Putin. We can demonstrate this by analyzing people's perceptions. "
President Kaljulaid was asked:
“According to our information, Estonian businessman Gillar Teder is the owner of the South Gallery shopping center in Crimea. It was opened in 2014, and it still works. Do you know about this? "
“Oh no, I don't know anything about Crimea. But I know about shopping malls that were stolen from Gillar Teder here in Kiev, ”she unexpectedly replied. platforme

[Brturin]

Quote: igorspb

Why didn't she comment on the rise in gas prices in Estonia itself?

here we read, there we do not read, but here ... She could tell how she is going to compensate for the refusal of oil shale (turn green so green) burning of oil shale in boilers of power plants will stop by 2025, and by 2030 - and the generation of electricity from semi-coke gas ( by-product of shale oil production). The sun and the wind are of course, but ... the main editor of the portal stolitsa. ee Alexander Chaplygin - “I think this is great: we are reducing the production of electricity from cheap oil shale and at the same time paying extra to Eesti Energia for using wood as fuel through our taxes, although our forests are already more like wastelands today,” he wrote. Earlier, the Estonian government announced that it intends to classify all data on the volume of deforestation in the republic. https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3296895.html
she's such a friendship ...
The only plant for the production of chemical fertilizers in Estonia, Nitrofert, will be liquidated, and its equipment will be exported to Ukraine ... “In Estonia, the costs of both electricity and wages are much higher than in Ukraine. The prices on the world fertilizer market will not cover these costs ”, ... For this reason, the plant has been shut down since 2013 ... In its best years, the plant was one of the largest industrial enterprises in Estonia. https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3295894.html

[Pacquale Pestrini]

It will be fair to say that Chaplygin, something like Novodvorskaya, is not really listened to by the Russians in Estonia, to be honest. Dyuzhe slate is not environmentally friendly, you will have to refuse it, or pay fines, I think they will not burn it for a long time. There was a conversation, to build a mini nuclear power plant ...

[Brturin]

Oil shale will have to be abandoned, the dates were called 2025 and 2030, you won't go far in the forests, especially since you can come across this "Latvia and Estonia, thanks to the lowest prices for raw materials, are the main exporters on the pellet market in Europe - their share in 2019 more than 30% of the total volume of exports from Europe accounts for https://marketing.rbc.ru/articles/11112/ Estonia may be a great forest power, but somehow ... installations of this type ... of course electricity is taken from the outlet :), either your own (then from what), or a cable to the Swedes or finals (they build their own nuclear power plants)

[alch3mist]

Earlier, the Estonian government announced that it intends to classify all data on the volume of deforestation in the republic.

Wah! Where will the “forest brothers” hide in the event of Russian aggression? So, what was Gorbachev's cunning!

[Borisych]

All of Estonia is now a loss. Not to say that it was big - it didn't come out like a stigma.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

Lord, IT is what it understands in what is happening in the world?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and the transition to "green" energy

at least a thread of them studied at school, got bored with their nonsense, a sect bitten by a possessed gretta

[Cympak]

if everyone is so well versed in the economics of Nord Streams 1-2, educate others as well. How much was spent, when will it pay off, at what volumes and prices, and at the same time about the "Power of Siberia"

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Cympak

then enlighten others as well.

how to enlighten you and why are you addressing this question to me?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Cympak

How much was spent, when will it pay off, at what volumes and prices, and at the same time about the "Power of Siberia"

This is no secret for a long time .. Have you been banned from Google? Search through Yandex.

[bar]

Well, what a fearful president this woman is ... No wonder she is so angry ...

[VORON538]

Do you think there are problems with men? So they still have no time, they now "love" each other

[Azimuth]

Aha wait !! $ 900 for 1 thousand cubic meters in winter as a pid will be given in Europe. Yeah .... you can talk about payback in 3 years. And the most important thing is that the electorate will say when the industrialists see it, when 1000 cubic meters from the Russian Federation goes into production at $ 800 cheaper. They will start screaming - anti-dumping investigation, carbon tax, oh yeah, totalitarian excise - I think they will soon introduce it.

[Private SA]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

And what would Madame be so worried about other people's days.

"Each dollar is in the hand of another he" (she) "perceived" (a) "as a personal insult for himself,
if he could not "(could)" take for prey. "O. Henry." Moreover,

Quote: igorspb

Why didn't she comment on the rise in gas prices in Estonia itself?

the only thing that can be said is "No comments".

[svoit]

And the appearance on the market of large quantities of natural gas at low prices will slow down the implementation of this strategy.

Also, the President of Estonia predicted losses to Nord Stream 2.

Kersti Kaljulaid is definitely right - prices need to be INCREASED !!!!

Quote: Azimut

Yeah .... you can talk about payback in 3 years.

This will mean a complete failure of SP-2, no capitalist, especially a Russian one, will not allow such a payback, a maximum of 1 year (or better than 1 month)

[shinobi]

The cost of the SP-2 Gazprom will recover in one five-year period. And this is at the lowest prices for gas, with the launch of the price will surely fall by half. even to blue in the face, but two states in Europe will consume our gas by rail. Germany and France. The rest of Europe will do what Germany tells her. Frau hung up all the limmetrophs at the end of the noble noodles. I especially liked the passage about hydrogen energy. For some reason, no one does not ask a question, apparently not podzhentelmensky it is, where does hydrogen come from (from what is produced) on an industrial scale.

[garrett]

Costs for SP-2 Gazprom will recover in one five-year period

At least take a look at pedigree ... Experts estimate the gas pipeline payback period from 8 to 30 years, depending on the transit tariff set by Gazprom and its partners, which, in turn, depends on the degree of financial participation of EU energy companies.

[Brturin]

Quote: Garrett

depending on the transit tariff

in addition to the transit tariff, the volume matters (which option will be chosen here for now ...) and the price of gas ... the higher the price, the higher the profit, the faster the costs are recouped ... at current prices ...

[Cympak]

But the volumes were cut off just now :(
Within the framework of the Third Energy Package of UES, Gazprom will be able to fill Nord Stream 2 only by 50% (27,5 billion cubic meters of gas out of 55), the remaining 50% are reserved "for an alternative supplier" that does not exist.

[Brturin]

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Quote: Cympak

Within the framework of the Third Energy Package "UES" Gazprom will be able to fill Nord Stream-2 only by 50%

for now, yes, and then ... as an option

Therefore, the operator has already begun to prepare a fallback, sending the regulator an application for certification as an independent transmission operator (ITO) on June 11. This is a form of separation of activities that is permitted by EU legislation and is common in Germany. Under the ITO model, Gazprom will be able to remain the owner of Nord Stream 2 AG, but there will be a number of restrictions. Tariffs are agreed with the regulator, monopoly employees cannot work and enter the operator's management bodies, all major systems (IT, accounting, etc.) must be separated, Gazprom must not provide any services to the operator (only by agreement with the regulator), etc. This is the model used by the German gas transmission operator Gascade, where Gazprom has 50%. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4899625

a variant of a "virtual point" of gas delivery at the German border for the second branch, etc. search engine "a way to bypass the EU Gas Directive"

[shinobi]

Whose experts say, and why on earth has transit suddenly become the main point of recoupment?

[Tusv]

Quote: shinobi

For some reason, no one asks the question, apparently not podzhentelmensky this is where the hydrogen comes from (from what is produced) on an industrial scale.

I don't know how on an industrial scale, but our anaerobic engine for the Lada project provides for the production of hydrogen from diesel fuel. The project stalled, because no one knows how to use a treacherous unmasking CO2. But Mr. Zelensky knows for sure - a billion trees need to be planted

[Wedmak]

Thus, in her opinion, gas from Russia poses a threat to the European ecology.

This ... do not buy gas from us ... preserve your ecology. In winter, it is very environmentally friendly to heat with wood and cook over a fire.

[75 Sergey]

Well, this fearful man will try!

[123456789]

Andrey Aleksin Terrible

[Soldatov V.]

You shouldn't be so at her. Basically, what did she say wrong? We built the pipeline for our own money (and a lot of money). Which could have spent on gasification of their home country, where cities are suffocating from smog, from burning coal. And why can't we switch to green energy ourselves, who's stopping us? Why are we fighting for this filthy Europe, which hates us and wants to destroy us. How is it that the leader of the Estonian tribe (a male woman) teaches us how to live? Where is our dignity?

[Tusv]

Quote: V.

We built the pipeline for our own money (and a lot of money).

If only for our own, then the American sanctions worked a hundred pounds. But the money is still huge. And so Gazprom owns Nord Stream 2 AG only 51%. Germans 30%

[cniza]

On what basis the political official makes such a conclusion is not clear. It is possible that such a mantra is needed to calm ourselves ...

Funny, go dress your son better in a dress ...

[wow]

Ouch ! I want to myself such a stuffed animal as on the screensaver, to scare the crows in the country !!!

[isv000]

Estonian President predicted losses to Nord Stream 2

... A-ah! Talking log! ... (the tale of Buratino) ...

[Andy]

it is popularly called that ...

[Andy]

enchanting. well, actions to match the thoughts - either collects cigarette butts, then a flashlight shines through the window ... the whole country laughs over it

[isv000]

Quote: Andy

the whole country laughs at her

Every nation deserves its ruler ...

[Andy]

there are no direct presidential elections in Estonia. and nobody knew her specifically at the elections. joke that when all the candidates failed, she fluttered out of nowhere and the parties supported her candidacy. like the Yankees have put their puppet

[isv000]

Quote: Andy

like the Yankees have put their puppet

"as if" is clearly superfluous here ...

[rocket757]

What can I say then ??? Everything is clear and so.

[Tenet]

Cassandra, new time I will tell her a child running through a minefield, to the Crimea, I will not forget, I will not forgive

[Vadim Ananyin]

Earlier, Kersti Kaljulaid stated that Ukraine will need at least several decades to join the European Union. Yes, by that time, the EU will not be in fact, there will be no place to join
Since the system of 2 standards in relations within the enty union.

[Sibguest]

I beg your pardon: where is the president of this micro-Baltic village "Estonnnia" in the photo?
See some guy with a white jacket and a sour face?

[Ovsigovets]

that is, as I understand it, all the investors in JV-2, specifically Engie (France), OMV (Austria), Shell (England and Wales), Uniper (Germany) [en], Wintershall Dea (Germany) are downright stupid people and money thrown away ????? WHO is this (this) powerful economic analyst ???)))

[Yakov Moskalenko]

Ahrenet she was dry

[VicktorVR]

Ugly, yes. But I can't help it.

What is so terrible ?!

In general, the beginning of the century can be called the era of terrible aunts in high positions.
Only Russia with Zakharova saves the situation :).

[faterdom]

Also, the President of Estonia predicted losses to Nord Stream 2. She counts. That such large funds have been invested in it that they are unlikely to be able to pay off in the foreseeable future.

After all, Estonians are mind-swift neutons ...
Does she even know the dynamics of gas prices just this year? And that Ukraine has not lost anything from this happiness, except for the prospect of buying "non-Russian reverse gas" with an extra charge from the EU?
Luckily, Estonia is that even with such a president there will be neither worse nor better - the lot of the rural powers. There is manure - the tomatoes will grow, the cows will give milk and everything is fine, just like three hundred years ago, and how in three hundred years.

[ximkim]

The soul and heart of Estonia hurts for Ukraine. Therefore, the President of Estonia is for the complete squeezing of juices from Ukraine.

[hohohol]

Also, the President of Estonia predicted losses to Nord Stream 2

Duradura. Now the gas price for the EU is $ 560. If Russia pumps 50%, but at $ 560, and not 100%, but cheaper, then with such powerful analytics, you can constantly raise gas prices for them. All the same, no one can fill the remaining 50%, the pipe starts on the territory of Russia.

[bzbo]

President of Nord Stream - 2 predicted losses to Estonia)))

[Tenet]

Quote: Pacquale Pestrini

I'm embarrassed to ask where the infa comes from? Did the women in the bath talk? I come from Estonia, as if I know what I'm saying, you can get a job with knowledge of Russian without any problems. I personally know a family from Ukraine, who in 2 years learned the language and received Estonian citizenship, after receiving it, they moved further to Finland, and everything is fine with them.

the camp goes to the sky

[Recoil]

Well, if the task is to get off the sinking ship, then the rules

[Recoil]

Chukhonskoe. Or is it a babo?

[Tenet]

I think he learned the language and more, slightly exaggerates, well, or just hesitates watched one blogger from Lithuania, he showed their lives well and reasoned, adequate, not a Russophobe ... so I compared their life and ours ... well, the comparison is not in their favor ... maybe the town is small? and they live in three countries about the same. About population decline, it's generally funny The Baltic Extinctions, even ahead of the Svidomo Bones Coast, almost all young people leave, forever. I think they are in the plans of the euro, to populate with migrants% 50t ...

[agoran]

Interestingly, now on Euronews, there was news about the meeting of the European Parliament.
Those countries that do not support European values ​​for accepting migrants will be deprived of financial support.
That the talaponka will sing when she has to live without infusions, but on her own earnings.

[Metallurg_2]

I wonder when Estonia will become profitable? And then he just sucks money out of a Brussels boobs.