Russia warned Great Britain against new provocations at sea borders

Repetition of situations similar to the incident with the destroyer Defender off the Crimean coast is strongly discouraged by the British Navy. Otherwise, the intruder ship will have serious problems. Russian Ambassador to London Andrei Kelin shared his thoughts on this topic yesterday on the air of the British Broadcasting Corporation BBC.

Speaking about the consequences of a theoretically possible conflict, the representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry chose neat diplomatic formulations like "... in the future it will be more difficult for a warship of the United Kingdom Navy to enter the territorial waters of the Russian Federation." At the same time, Ambassador Kelin made it clear that the behavior of the British Navy ships that did not comply with international rules had been demonstrated before, although no specific confirming examples were given in this conversation.

The aforementioned incident with the British destroyer Defender was recorded on June 23, 2021: the destroyer violated the border from Cape Fiolent off the Crimean coast. The Defender was forced to return to the open sea by warning volleys of the Russian coast guard and bombs dropped on the heading ahead of the intruder from an alarmed Su-24M.

When analyzing the content of the news bulletin that followed the incident, the expert community noted an obvious biased approach. In particular, the plot about the violation of the sea borders by the British in the majority of the Russian-speaking liberal media was interpreted in the aspect of the harshness of actions on the part of the RF Ministry of Defense. Now the ambassador made it clear that Russia does not intend to put up with new provocations at its borders.

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[aszzz888]

Now the ambassador made it clear that Russia does not intend to put up with new provocations at its borders.

And against the background of the shameful drape of the Merikatos from Afgan, the mistress of the seas)) Now she will think about it - will she not be thrown, like everyone else before, by the striped ally in case of a repetition of provocations?

[tralflot1832]

Excellent Andrei Kelin trolled the Admiralty. We will drive, and even more so China took our baton. Lev turned into a shabby cat. Lizka, along with the NATO squadron, did not appear for a rendezvous in the Taiwan Strait, fearing typhoon Lupit. The Chinese were very upset, some sort of "Lupit". "beat Lizka. That day, Taiwan had wind, only 23 meters per second. Lizka was not capable of fighting in the weather, the planes did not rise into the air! And the whole cohort left for Guam, amid the hooting of the Chinese. So the British Navy had a bummer for a bummer. But along the way, the circus with Lizka is not over. China is very against the drain of water at Fukushima. "Scientific Research Fleet" of China from the Pacific Ocean of Japan is provided.

[Orkraider]

That the British will still violate, I personally have no doubt. Very good advertising for them comes out, they liked the last time, so there will be a new one (my opinion).
I'm not sure that we will take tougher measures than last time. At the same time, I consider it important and more important to capture more accurately and shoot a picture brighter than ours, including aviation.

Let's wait and see what happens.

[barclay]

Quote: Orkraider

That the British will still violate, I personally have no doubt.

There is no need to doubt it. Whether they draped or not, they still need to figure it out. If a British destroyer is much faster than our border guards, then this is not necessarily an escape. But in order to more seriously resist such provocations, you need to have a more serious fleet, as well as a clearer plan of action.

[Orkraider]

Greetings!

If a British destroyer has a much higher speed than our border guards, then this is not necessarily an escape.

Most border guards have a full speed lower than the British type 45.
British patrol ships of the "River" type - they have a speed of 20 knots, "River-2" - 24 knots.
Canada - they have a Kingston-class main patrol ship - full speed 15 knots.
Netherlands - Holland class - full 21,5 knots.
Denmark - "Knud Rasmussen" - full 17 knots.
Japan - "Shikishima" - full 25 knots.

The USA and ... we are out of this list)).

USA: decommissioned Hamilton type is 28 knots, modern Legend type is 29.
Russia: project 22460 - full 28 knots, project 10410 - full 29 knots.

So I think the main thing that is needed, as you rightly noted, is

a clearer plan of action.

[for]

Quote: barclay

need to have a more serious

They will not go to this war either, but a more worthy answer must be given to the desire for him, too, "Faberge".

[ccsr]

Quote: barclay

If a British destroyer has a much higher speed than our border guards, then this is not necessarily an escape.

He still would not have escaped from the Black Sea Fleet aviation or from coastal missile systems - so this is not his merit, but our unwillingness to give them a "brazen face" due to the current completion of the SP-2 gas pipeline.

Quote: barclay

But, in order to more seriously resist such provocations, you need to have a more serious fleet,

Rejoice - today from the Kerch plant "Zaliv" for sea trials, a combat ship for our Navy went to sea.

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[businessv]

Quote: Orkraider

That the British will still violate, I personally have no doubt.

I don’t know about violating, but I think they will try to violate. Correctly noticed - wait and see.

[Olkhovsky]

I'm not sure that we will take tougher measures than last time.

I read a post on one of the thematic publics of the "musicians" that as a result of that incident, a senior officer from the Black Sea Fleet headquarters was dismissed / removed from his post (?) For indecisive action when the border was violated by an English ship.

[Wedmak]

Do you want to say that you still had to give the order to launch Onyx, but he did not?

[Olkhovsky]

Do you want to say that you still had to give the order to launch Onyx, but he did not?

I did not serve in the navy, I can not imagine options for decisive actions and opportunities. Perhaps fewer warnings had to be broadcast and warning fire had been opened earlier. You yourself cannot think of anything like that with your head? To run onyxes immediately to the extreme?

[Wedmak]

In my opinion, ours acted more than decisively: Two PSKR, at least 4 aircraft in the air, drones, led from the shore, maybe even "in sight", dropped combat bombs on the course. Therefore, I wrote, where it is not more decisive ... Then only to defeat.

[DmSol]

The bombs seem to have only been on paper. There are no other questions.

[Albert1988]

Quote: DmSol

The bombs seem to have only been on paper. There are no other questions.

Who told you? The bombs could be at a distance of a couple of kilometers along the course of the ship - to throw them closer - you could damage the ship (which ours obviously did not want).

[DmSol]

Filming from all sides was carried out. And from the destroyer and from ours. No splashes are visible.

[for]

Quote: Olkhovsky

A senior officer from the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet was dismissed from his post (?) For indecisive actions when a British ship violated the border.

He would have been removed for more decisive action. More than sure he was following the order of the one who took it off.

[mikh-korsakov]

Well, yes. I quote. "TNow the ambassador made it clear that Russia does not intend to put up with new provocations on its borders. " This saying is very cleverly suited to justify any outcome of the case of repetition of provocation. You can express your deepest resentment about the violation and send a note. But you can also sink and everything is within the framework of what has been said. BUT. The British are a specific people. One of some ... (gentleman, edition, is that okay?) Her Majesty rescued a dozen stray cats and dogs from Afgan, although hundreds of Afghans serving Her Majesty's embassy languish in the heat up to their knees in shit, waiting for departure. Maybe somehow play on the insane love for animals. For example, take several stray cats hostage, threatening to put them to sleep if repeated. Perhaps the provocations will stop! But what if?!

[maxim1987]

It will be interesting to listen to him when Shoigu, in the next incident, makes the 105th warning

[Uncle lee]

Russia does not intend to put up with new provocations at its borders.

Print in English, American and Ukrainian ...

[Simon]

The ambassador made it clear that Russia does not intend to put up with new provocations at its borders.

I agree with our ambassador. Enough of clattering with the British - we will apply extreme measures.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Simon

Enough of clattering with the British - we will apply extreme measures.

Which ones, shall we ask Abramovich to sell Chelsea and buy out Big Ben, or shall we say to Zolotov so that he can take his grandson from a British university?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Stroporez

Shall we ask Abramovich to sell Chelsea and buy out Big Ben, or shall we say to Zolotov so that he can take his grandson from a British university?

It's just some kind of Krant-6 with a spherical trend in a vacuum. Everywhere in the Tatra there are enemies of the communists, in Svarog minus a million Russians annually, you have money-making villas abroad. "I recognize the darling by the way he walks." As the saying goes, one-dimensional originality is just that.
And if in essence, then what, are the shaved Zolotovsky's grandson being held hostage, or what?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

And if in essence, then what, are the shaved Zolotovsky's grandson being held hostage, or what?

Explain your thought about the grandson of General of the Army Zolotov, who lives and studies in Britain.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Stroporez

Explain your thought about the grandson of General of the Army Zolotov, who lives and studies in Britain.

I explain.
How does the presence of Zolotovsky's grandson in Britain affect the actions of the shaved navy in Russian territorial waters, and the reaction of Russia to this?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

How does the presence of Zolotovsky's grandson in Britain affect the actions of the shaved navy in Russian territorial waters, and the reaction of Russia to this?

"Brzezik" has already explained everything to you, it is strange that it takes so long and hard for you to get it.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Stroporez

"Brzezik" has already explained everything to you, it is strange that it takes so long and hard for you to get it.

And Brzezik is a direct guarantor of the truth, the keeper of the truth? Won't lie for anything?
So how does the presence of Zolotov's grandson in Britain influence the decision to attack / not attack a British ship in our waterways?
I go nuts, dear editorial staff! Solovyov-Kiselyov propaganda you vehemently do not believe, but just as fiercely believe the American-European one. Why all of a sudden such selectivity, eh?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

I go nuts, dear editorial staff!

My dear, it's time for you to get out of this state.
And I believe in the fact that the grandson of the general of the army, the commander of the largest power structure of the country, lives on the territory of an unfriendly state. Please note, not the son / grandson of a sergeant of the same power structure, but the commander who is directly involved in the work of the Security Council.
You can, of course, assume that the granddaughter is carrying out the secret mission of the homeland, but you’ll think it out yourself.
Interestingly, Brilev was also forced to take the oath to the Queen, and the Nightingale / Shapiro, under pressure from the European Union, bought a mansion on Lake Como?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Stroporez

Interestingly, Brilev was also forced to take the oath to the Queen, and the Nightingale / Shapiro, under pressure from the European Union, bought a mansion on Lake Como?

Brilev said that when he worked in Britain in the nineties, he was advised to take local citizenship, because this allowed him to save a lot on taxes. That is, the reason is the most pragmatic.
Well, she studies and studies. What's wrong? Does this somehow affect Zolotov's actions?
I repeat my question for the third time: is Zolotov's grandson among the shaven hostages?
Why do you stubbornly refuse to answer?

Now about Solovyov. It seems to me very decently that if you had the opportunity, you yourself would be delighted to buy a house somewhere in the warm regions of the world. But, since you do not have such an opportunity, the grapes are green and, in general, fu, how can it be, a shame.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

But, since you do not have such an opportunity, then the grapes are green and in general fu, how is it possible,

Envy and greed, laziness and pride are our FSE!
As soon as the church became unnecessary, automatic and mortal sins became normal ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: stalkerwalker

Envy and greed, laziness and pride are our FSE!
As soon as the church became unnecessary, automatic and mortal sins became normal ...

And you, colleague, apparently directly from the morning service, so enlightened, have you come to our place?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Stroporez

And you, colleague, apparently directly from the morning service, so enlightened, have come to us? Or so, to put it simply, place markers

And I, a colleague, all admire the pearls of the "humiliated and insulted".

[Sling cutter]

Quote: stalkerwalker

And I, a colleague, all admire the pearls of the "humiliated and insulted".

"Everything in this raging world is ghostly ...", colleague, and Les Misérables is already quite the reality of our long-suffering country.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Stroporez

Les Misérables is already quite a reality of our long-suffering country

Victor Hugo described a completely different country and in a different era. Like "1793" - this is not about us ..

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Brilev told

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Well, she studies and studies. What's wrong? Does this somehow affect Zolotov's actions?

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Now about Solovyov. It seems to me very decently that, if you had the opportunity,

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

But, since you do not have such an opportunity, the grapes are green and, in general, fu, how can it be, a shame.

It is difficult to comment on your "creative delights", which are more like excuses for the weak-minded with the substitution of actual meanings and the transition to my modest personality, well, like, I envy, etc. Honestly, it stinks strongly of manuals on manipulations and it's lazy for me to sort out all this crap of yours.
And now to the facts.
Zolotov's grandson is studying in Britain.-Fact.
Brilev is a British citizen. Fact.
Shapiro has expensive real estate in the European Union. Fact.
You can argue with the facts as much as you want, to sum up any explanations under them is your own business, only Brzezinski said and he had grounds for this that “Russia can have as many nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons as it wants, but since $ 500 billion of the Russian elite is in our banks, you still need to figure it out: is it your elite or is it ours? I do not see a single situation in which Russia will use its nuclear potential. "
Argue with Brzezik.
PySy. In connection with the above, I will forward your question about the "hostage" to you, you just want to answer it.

[Ka-52]

Zolotov's grandson is studying in Britain.-Fact.
Brilev is a British citizen. Fact.

you are some kind of nonsense gray mare are already what a comment. Zolotov is a Russian guard. Brylev is generally a journalist. How do they approach the topic of nuclear weapons and countering the UK Navy in the Black Sea? You at least sometimes return to this reality

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Ka-52

you are some kind of nonsense gray mare are already what a comment. Zolotov is a Russian guard. Brylev is generally a journalist. How do they approach the topic of nuclear weapons and countering the UK Navy in the Black Sea? You at least sometimes return to this reality

Do you remember the act of aggression against the Russian Federation with the plane shot down by the Turks? And what about the tomatoes? Maybe you threw a bomb or the south stream is closer to someone's pocket?
At this stage, you are delusional, and the above characters are just representatives of the class that controls you / us, some control politics and economics, while others control your brains. So dare in your reality.

[Ka-52]

you, as a bazaar woman, carry everything in a heap. We are not talking about the tomato disagreement between Turkey and Russia. And not about strategic programs like the Nord Stream gas pipeline. We're talking about a global war using nuclear weapons and methods of countering the British fleet in the Black Sea. Once again I ask the question: how are the National Guard Zolotov and the journalist Brylev participating in the preparation and implementation of these tasks? I don’t need to hang your verbal noodles on my ears. Specifically answer a specific question.

[76SSSR]

Yes, a lot of talk, little action. But Lionel Crabbe of SAS once snooped around without any further ado. There was a muddy story in troubled waters, but the desire fought off for a long time from the Britons.

[barclay]

Quote: Simon

The ambassador made it clear that Russia does not intend to put up with new provocations at its borders.

I agree with our ambassador. Enough of clattering with the British - we will apply extreme measures.

What are the extreme measures? What are you talking about? Having kids studying in London will not allow you to do anything serious. No one will shoot directly at the ship. We will receive sanctions "from the world community" for the very "I do not want".
If there were ships that could catch up, overtake and stay at the offender's course, then this would be optimal. But...
And the ambassador said what he had to say.

[Andobor]

Quote: barclay

And the ambassador said what he had to say.

The ambassador repeated what the president had said - we will sink and nothing will happen to us.

[76SSSR]

No one will shoot directly at the ship.

And there is no need to shoot at the ship. Use electronic warfare, ramming, seizure of a ship, approach of aircraft with an imitation of a strike on a target, and much more. At the same time, we will work out the unscheduled exercises, and these protest notes are a waste of paper in a basket.

[Normal]

It is necessary to act so that there is simply no next time. One of the ancient Chinese sayings says: order must be restored before riots break out. If riots happened, it is too late to restore order. This formulation is universal and applicable not only to external political actions, but also within the country.

[rotmistr60]

"... in the future it will be more difficult for a British naval warship to enter the territorial waters of the Russian Federation"

In this case, our business is to warn. But the British will draw any conclusions from this warning, time will tell. One thing is clear - they will not give up provocations against Russia at sea or on land, using crooks with a Russian passport.

[Retvizan 8]

Well, if you have already sounded from the high rostrum, a warning about the emergence of "serious problems", then it will be necessary to organize these problems in the event of repeated violations of borders.
But I would like to immediately cool the "hot heads", because to create "serious problems" does not automatically mean that the enemy ship will receive a missile in the side and go to the bottom. I think the competent authorities have in their arsenal other equally painful methods to put the presumptuous Englishmen in their place.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Retvizan 8

I think the competent authorities have in their arsenal other equally painful methods to put the presumptuous Englishmen in their place.

Night again?

[carstorm 11]

Again?) Are you from the sect of youngsters who believe in this nonsense?)))

[Sling cutter]

Quote: carstorm 11

Again?) Are you from the sect of youngsters who believe in this nonsense?)))

Well, no, of course, it would be strange to believe in two scouts who have dirtied all of London with some kind of filth and admiring the spiers-pitchforks, having food stamps in their pockets in the departmental canteen.
Therefore, I do not believe in anything, but I believe in you, my young friend and in

[carstorm 11]

Well, it's clear instead) you are fighting this) otherwise, besides coupons, something else will seem) You never know what infantile arguments are still close to you)

[Sling cutter]

Quote: carstorm 11

Well, it's clear instead) you are fighting this) otherwise, besides coupons, something else will seem) You never know what infantile arguments are still close to you)

Mon jeune ami, raise demography is really a very worthy job in our conditions, analytics is not yours.

[carstorm 11]

Well, of course))) Analytics is yours) Especially on military topics, where every other time pearls) Good luck in your difficult business)

[Docx2032]

Are these muzzled comrades going to confront the British fleet?

[Per se.]

Quote: DocX2032

Are these muzzled comrades going to confront the British fleet?

There will be others, against your "muzzles".

[carstorm 11]

And flom britov according to your muzzles in a pandemic did not wear?))))

[Yura]

Does the UK have a navy? The question is least about ships.

[DmSol]

that's where the muzzles are so muzzles. Feels like a century of jamming experience

[alch3mist]

that's where the muzzles are so muzzles. Feels like a century of jamming experience

People, are you nuts? These are not masks, these are comforters, which, most likely, according to the charter, are worn on a combat alert. And when fighting for the survivability of the ship, appropriate suits are worn.

[DmSol]

Before pointing your finger at people, please read the entire thread, starting from the Ukrainians, the throwing of our sailors in sanitary masks. Then maybe you will understand all the sarcasm.

[Docx2032]

I categorically do not trust people in masks. Any of them is capable of stabbing with a knife on the street. And what will such sailors do if the destroyer responds? "You are afraid, coward, for your trunk, but what will you do when the heavy artillery speaks?" (c).

[carstorm 11]

Nothing) it will simply disappear from the horizon as a species. And by the way. Do the Britt have a fleet? And then even the British themselves do not believe in its presence for a long time)))

[Docx2032]

Quote: carstorm 11

And flom britov according to your muzzles in a pandemic did not wear?))))

Maybe he did, so all these role-playing games will remain games. There is no good war and is not foreseen - self-indulgence is all. Fun for boredom at sea and on land.

[Docx2032]

Quote: Tiksi-3

and we will send these used masks in the form of humanitarian aid to them, and to you too ... rogues who have pissed off their country!

Yes, here in Minsk, masks are not particularly worn, except for some in transport. There is no fleet either, so the problem is purely theoretical, how to resist the American fleet, Psaki seemed to be going to send him here

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
Do not swim for the buoys!
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We are for the fact that in the Black Sea
The ships did not sink ...
***

[Docx2032]

Quote: Jura

Does the UK have a navy? The question is least about ships.

It is more logical to first catch up with the destroyer, and then talk about the availability and quality of the British fleet.

[Alex_Bora]

Not s_s_s, missiles will catch up

[Docx2032]

Quote: Alex_Bora

Not s_s_s, missiles will catch up

Missile weapons of the destroyer:
2 × 4 PU Harpoon, SAM PAAMS (UVP Sylver: 48 anti-aircraft missiles "Aster-15" (range of target destruction 1.7-30 km) or "Aster-30" (range of target destruction 3-120 km)

[Wedmak]

This is really dangerous for our PSKR. Yes, and for the Su-24M flying by, Asters are dangerous. The destroyer could put many there, if there was time. But there were still coastal anti-ship missiles ... I think after the very first salvo of the destroyer, a couple of anti-ship missiles would have stuck into its side. He just wouldn't have had time to shoot them down.

[cniza]

Now the ambassador made it clear that Russia does not intend to put up with new provocations at its borders.

Force to call into our port, confiscate the ship, and put the crew in jail ...

[mark1]

Quote: cniza

confiscate the ship and imprison the crew ...

The crew overboard! ... And their life circles as a demonstration of our humanism

[petrol cutter]

"... in the future it will be more difficult for a United Kingdom naval warship to enter the territorial waters of the Russian Federation."
What is more difficult?
The current vessels are not even able to catch up with him ...
Laughter and sin on video shooting on a course to nowhere.
At what course ?! .. There the stern is barely visible on the horizon ...
They really didn't even hear such fierce shooting!
In the damn old days, * Antares * s were built on a PC. For the Black Sea Fleet. Who could catch up with anyone and really shoot at the rate of the AK176 ...

[Stepan S]

Hopefully this is not the "last Chinese warning"? Next year there will again be a similar exercise in the Black Sea, and again there will be an excuse for the Britons to march along the Crimean coast. So let's see what distance they choose, and what happens if they choose it wrong.