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Reported about the next incident with the MiG-29 in the Astrakhan region

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Reported about the next incident with the MiG-29 in the Astrakhan region

Another incident with funds reported aviation Videoconferencing of Russia. Recall that earlier in Turkey, while extinguishing a fire, the Be-200 aircraft of the Russian Ministry of Defense crashed, then a prototype of the newest Il-112V military transport aircraft fell in the Moscow region. In August, a MiG-29 fighter crashed near the Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region. In all these cases, the pilots were killed.


August continues - and here's a new incident. Moreover, it happened again near Astrakhan and again with the MiG-29 fighter.

As reported by the Telegram channel Base, MiG-29, which was undergoing scheduled repair work in the Astrakhan region, caught fire in the course of their implementation. According to the channel, this happened in the Narimanov district of the region (the airport of Astrakhan is located there).

It is known that the fighting vehicle burned out completely before the firefighters could extinguish the flames.

It is known that no one was injured as a result of this incident.

If the information is confirmed officially, then this is the second loss of the MiG-29 in just a few days.
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  1. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 23 August 2021 15: 21
    -2
    Well, what are you going to do? What kind of attack? We ought to bring the perpetrators to justice.
    I think that we still need to buy a MiG-35 or at least a MiG-29M for the Aerospace Forces in order to have something to cover the positions of the retired light fighters. The Su-75 will only be ready in 5-6 years.
    1. Asad
      Asad 23 August 2021 15: 32
      +15
      Ras ....... yours is complete! Well, the firefighters at the airport, that is? Or optimized?
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 23 August 2021 16: 24
        +4
        Quote: ASAD
        Ras ....... yours is complete! Well, the firefighters at the airport, that is? Or optimized?

        When will this catastrophic August end?
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 23 August 2021 16: 56
          +2
          Quote: Terenin
          When will this catastrophic August end?

          August 31. In the USA, an F-15 pilot shot down an F-16 rocket, an F-16 pilot ejected
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 23 August 2021 17: 53
            +1
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            In the USA, an F-15 pilot shot down an F-16 missile, an F-16 pilot ejected

            When?
            1. avg avg
              avg avg 24 August 2021 00: 48
              +1
              10 August.
              1. DenVB
                DenVB 24 August 2021 14: 49
                0
                Quote: avg avg
                10 August.

                Which year?
            2. avg avg
              avg avg 25 August 2021 03: 51
              -1
              In that.
              In Google banned?
              1. DenVB
                DenVB 25 August 2021 14: 14
                0
                Quote: avg avg
                In Google banned?

                Yes. If you are not banned, please provide a link to the source in English.
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 23 August 2021 18: 32
          -1
          Quote: Terenin
          When will this catastrophic August end?

          It’s not August, but the deplorable state of aviation.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 23 August 2021 18: 45
            +2
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Terenin
            When will this catastrophic August end?

            It’s not August, but the deplorable state of aviation.

            Maybe I'm wrong, but something is wrong in the quick awards in case of accidents and disasters, until the end of their investigation.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 23 August 2021 18: 56
              0
              Quote: Terenin
              Maybe I'm wrong, but something is wrong in the quick awards in case of accidents and disasters, until the end of their investigation.

              They're right. They've died - they've been rewarded, period. And then they slowly sort it out, time passes, and it seems like the reasons to disclose to nobody.
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 23 August 2021 20: 36
                +5
                Quote: Stroporez
                Quote: Terenin
                Maybe I'm wrong, but something is wrong in the quick awards in case of accidents and disasters, until the end of their investigation.

                They're right. They've died - they've been rewarded, period. And then they slowly sort it out, time passes, and it seems like the reasons to disclose to nobody.

                I believe that this negatively affects the objectivity of the investigation, conclusions ... and further along the chain ...
          2. EvilLion
            EvilLion 24 August 2021 07: 56
            -1
            I'm wondering what you have to do with aviation to judge it? And at least someone would pay attention to incidents if they happened regularly.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 25 August 2021 07: 50
              +1
              Quote: EvilLion
              I'm wondering what you have to do with aviation to judge it? And at least someone would convert

              If this is for me, then I have nothing to do with aviation. No.
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 23 August 2021 18: 31
        -3
        Quote: ASAD
        Ras ....... yours is complete! Well, the firefighters at the airport, that is? Or optimized?

        And they continue to optimize.
      3. dauria
        dauria 24 August 2021 00: 39
        +1
        Well, the firefighters at the airport, that is? Or optimized?


        There is. And they fit into the standard. Only the plane has time to burn faster than the standard. There, after five minutes, you can no longer extinguish - throw it away anyway. Is that the grass next to the parking lot, so that the wind does not blow it further. The tanks are always full to capacity so that there is no condensation of water. And kerosene is a bad thing. You won't light it in a bucket, but if you throw it out on bricks or on snow, you won't extinguish it. Especially if you got on a red-hot piece of iron. First, the parka is white, and then get away with it.
    2. Borik
      Borik 23 August 2021 15: 34
      +1
      The plane is under repair, that the bull was thrown into the tank. If this is the carelessness of the technical staff, then they should be punished. But maybe force majeure circumstances (for example, lightning struck or some other natural or man-made circumstances)
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 23 August 2021 15: 47
        0
        And what a handsome man.




        Pictures of the Russian-made MiG-29M / M2 fighters that entered service with the Egyptian Air Force. Recall that the contract for the supply of a total of 52 MiG-29M / M2 fighters to Egypt was signed by Rosoboronexport in May 2015. The supply of aircraft under this contract, which are manufactured at Production Complex No. 1 of JSC RSK MiG in Lukhovitsy, began in 2018.

        https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3904392.html
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 23 August 2021 18: 30
        0
        Quote: Borik
        If this is the carelessness of the technical staff, then they should be punished.

        What to put in a corner There are many civilian technicians in use now.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 23 August 2021 19: 49
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: Borik
          If this is the carelessness of the technical staff, then they should be punished.

          What put in a corner“There are many civilian technicians in use now.

          And for civilian other punishments, does it not exist?
    3. knn54
      knn54 23 August 2021 16: 08
      +1
      Honored Pilot of Russia Yuri Sytnik recently said that the so-called managers and managers were not to blame for the last four plane crashes that happened in Russia almost in a row.
      The expert believes that today there is no pilot training school in Russia at all. There is no longer those old principles of training and there is no continuity when experienced pilots teach young ones.
      Without the recognition of these problems by the command of the Aerospace Forces, they will not be resolved, which means that losses from one of Russia's allies - aviation - will continue.
      In THIS incident (the "not started" plane burned down), most likely, the welder is to blame.
      Well, the technical staff of the unit.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 23 August 2021 16: 39
        -12
        But in "stagnation", if, for example, it was necessary to weld the wing to the plane, the plane was always started - so that the fire extinguishing system would work, if suddenly something. Rrazdolbai! am
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 23 August 2021 19: 53
          +5
          Quote: Doliva63
          But in "stagnation", if, for example, it was necessary weld the wing to the plane, the plane was always started - for the fire extinguishing system to work, if suddenly something. Rrazdolbai! am

          Well, he piled up. What kind of welding did you weld? Where did they start? fool
          My squadron commander said - "Born to crawl, don't get confused on the runway"
        2. Stone
          Stone 23 August 2021 20: 00
          +1
          In aviation, it is correct - RUNNING.
      2. Zorro21
        Zorro21 23 August 2021 17: 13
        +1
        What burns will not rot. The third law of the engineer.
      3. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin 23 August 2021 18: 25
        +5
        I agree with you, the continuity is gone, and not only in the army but also in industry.
        Optimization gives its results, saw, know, felt!
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 24 August 2021 08: 00
          -2
          Apparently, the year that way in 2008, the continuity bloomed and smelled. Only the release of aircraft was for some reason negligible. But for people like you, the process of Russia's perishing is permanent.
      4. dauria
        dauria 23 August 2021 23: 56
        -2
        Honored Pilot of Russia Yuri Sytnik recently said that the so-called managers and managers were not to blame for the last four plane crashes that happened in Russia almost in a row.


        Yes, even four times honored ... There is a commission, before its decision, even the most honored honors should not "tryndet".

        And usually there is a whole list of these reasons overlapping one another. And then bam - and one pepper knows everything with closed eyes.
      5. EvilLion
        EvilLion 24 August 2021 07: 58
        -1
        The honored pilot hasn’t gotten into the cockpit for 10 years because of his age, but every pensioner, of course, knows what is happening where he left a long time ago.
  2. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 23 August 2021 15: 36
    +2
    BAZA is strong.
  3. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 23 August 2021 15: 43
    +2
    Fir-trees! What ... were Ravshan and Dzhamshut repaired again?
  4. sifgame
    sifgame 23 August 2021 15: 51
    +4
    Well, this is no gate, the losses in combat in Syria are not the same. Someone needs to answer and so that the stars are larger than those of some kind of letekhi.
    1. bayard
      bayard 23 August 2021 21: 21
      +2
      Quote: sifgame
      and so that the stars are larger than those of some kind of leteha technician.

      Now it is ordered to recruit aviation technicians in the surrounding technical schools.
      And they typed.
    2. sustav75
      sustav75 24 August 2021 03: 21
      0
      The most that Vova will do! This will move the generals from one fat position to another! He does not abandon his "friends" ...
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 24 August 2021 08: 02
        +1
        I wonder how it happened that for 10 years already, no planes were lost during ground fires? Maybe all your pseudo-patriotic psychosis is just due to the fact that in recent years everything was fine in aviation, but here, suddenly, several emergency situations at once in a short time?
        1. sustav75
          sustav75 24 August 2021 15: 21
          -1
          Well done! Go ten thousand rubles. get it! Everything is great in your aviation!
  5. DenVB
    DenVB 23 August 2021 15: 58
    0
    With such a rate of destruction of materiel, our VKS will soon fly on "Orlans".
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 24 August 2021 08: 03
      0
      I would like to hear about the rate of destruction over the past 5 years.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. DenVB
        DenVB 25 August 2021 14: 48
        0
        Quote: EvilLion
        and the last 5 years.

        Over the past five years, I don’t know, but starting from July 31 of this year. this one is already the fourth (not counting the Il-112, it is a factory one). If the information is confirmed, of course. Although recently there has been a tendency to hush up information about accidents, not only in aviation, but in general. If it is not possible to hide the fact itself, then then they are deafly silent about the reasons and circumstances.
  6. askort154
    askort154 23 August 2021 15: 58
    +4
    It is reported about the next incident with the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

    Lord, how unprofessional are all media reports about aviation.
    They undertake to write or shoot plots - it is unpleasant to read or listen.
    If you take up this topic, then at least get acquainted with aviation terminology.
    What is - "Aerospace Forces aircraft" ?! fool
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 24 August 2021 03: 32
      +1
      This is for people to think that it was not another plane that was ditched, but just some kind of videoconferencing tool ... So it is easier for Putin to report.
  7. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 23 August 2021 15: 58
    -1
    Once is an accident. The second time is a coincidence. Well, if this follows for the third time, then this is a regularity, i.e. sabotage.
  8. Wedmak
    Wedmak 23 August 2021 16: 27
    +1
    In Astrakhan and the surrounding area there is a wild heat, about 40 in the shade. You can imagine how much in the sun and on concrete. So I wouldn't be surprised if something flared up there, they didn't see it.
    1. Asad
      Asad 23 August 2021 18: 37
      +3
      He worked in a fuel and lubricants warehouse, if you follow simple rules, grounding, a special tool, well, of course you don't throw bulls into a container, then at plus 40 everything will be fine.
  9. Trickster
    Trickster 23 August 2021 16: 39
    -12
    The famous MIG quality, as soon as possible, the Sukhovites would have completed 75, because it was necessary to replace this rubbish already yesterday.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 23 August 2021 17: 24
      +7
      Before the 90s, the quality was quite up to par. And by the way, after the Second World War, Mikoyan's fighters shone in almost all conflicts, from Korea to the Middle East. And in Afghanistan, the main fighters were the 21st and 23rd. Sukhoi fighters did not appear anywhere, well, except that the Korean Boeing's Su15 failed. So-so victory to be honest. So the MiGs are in vain here. If they had not been strangled in the 90s, I am sure that today the main fighter in the Air Force would have been just a moment.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 24 August 2021 08: 05
        +1
        Who cares now how the outdated MiG-21s showed themselves in Afghanistan. But the Su-17 and Su-25 showed themselves there.
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 24 August 2021 08: 12
          +1
          How would it be for the FIGHTERS
    2. Asad
      Asad 23 August 2021 18: 38
      0
      Foolishly, any plane can be fooled!
  10. Ket baun
    Ket baun 23 August 2021 16: 43
    0
    Something August, again collects victims .. Although such accidents may have increased as a result of the increased activity of our Air Force, the time is alarming in the world.
    And the slobs remained the same ..
  11. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator 23 August 2021 16: 57
    -1
    What do you mean on fire? And it burned out. And where was the fire? And there are fire extinguishing means in the access zone in the TEC. They used to be anyway. In my opinion, it's time for the specialists to do it.
  12. MBRSS
    MBRSS 23 August 2021 17: 01
    -1
    In August, a MiG-29 fighter crashed near the Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region.

    Has any new infa appeared on this disaster? Something the media are silent.
    1. Asad
      Asad 23 August 2021 18: 41
      0
      In the news they wrote that the pilot was 25 years old, and that he made 5 flights in a day. But this news must be divided by 10!
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 24 August 2021 08: 11
        0
        The guy is a lieutenant of the 19th year of release
  13. CYM
    CYM 23 August 2021 18: 07
    -1
    IMHO Just began to fly more and monitor the state of technology and safety less. Every accident has a name, surname and title. (Lazar Kaganovich).
  14. CYM
    CYM 23 August 2021 19: 04
    0
    Quote: Oleg Aviator
    What do you mean on fire? And it burned out, but where was the fire?

    In 1987, in our unit (ZAKVO Air Force) ZIL-133 burned down by half, 100 meters from the checkpoint of the officer's town. We went ... called for bricks for the "demobilization chord". The ZIL would have exploded and burned down completely, but we, together with the checkpoint officer, filled the engine and the gas tank with foam from fire extinguishers. And the fire engine arrived about an hour later ... at 1st speed (it did not turn on other speeds) ... winked And it was at least late, but still the USSR, where they were imprisoned for negligence and sabotage for a long time. sad
    1. Oleg Aviator
      Oleg Aviator 24 August 2021 09: 35
      -1
      The comparison is not correct. Zil and MiG Trochi are different things and he did not fly for bricks, but stood for repairs. According to the instructions of ias, there should have been fire extinguishing equipment
      1. CYM
        CYM 24 August 2021 11: 40
        0
        The comparison is correct, the fire in the unit was the only one for extinguishing aircraft and for extinguishing everything else. OBATO (including the fire department) in general have always been supplied with personnel and equipment on a leftover basis, and it seems that this Soviet approach remained unchanged. sad
  15. Azis
    Azis 23 August 2021 19: 18
    +1
    it happened in the Narimanov district of the region (there is the Astrakhan airport)
    There is no airport or airfield in Narimanov district. The Privolzhsky (or Privolzhie) airfield 116 is located in the Trusovsky district of Astrakhan, and it was there that the incident took place, and there is an airport in the Soviet district, although it was called Narimanovo.
    1. Mityasha
      Mityasha 24 August 2021 06: 08
      0
      There is no such thing in nature - 116 UCPP ... (Volga region) negative
  16. Clear
    Clear 23 August 2021 21: 05
    +2
    August continues - and here's a new incident. Moreover, it happened again near Astrakhan and again with the MiG-29 fighter.

    Sad and sad.
  17. Kaw
    Kaw 23 August 2021 22: 41
    0
    There, apparently, there was no one to put out the coma of the firemen.
  18. EvilLion
    EvilLion 24 August 2021 08: 07
    +1
    I have one question, what is this MiG-29 in the Astrakhan region? Soviet MiG-29s remained only in Armenia and at storage bases, and where the MiG-29SMT of the 14th IAP arrived, I did not see the information, I suspect that it was also for storage.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 24 August 2021 08: 10
      0
      There was a little left in Kubinka, Lipetsk, the Kurskys partly went to Armenia and partly to Astrakhan. There also Zernograd SMTshki surpassed it seems.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 24 August 2021 08: 27
        0
        And what is ditched? SMT, or old stuff that you don't mind at all?
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 24 August 2021 10: 08
          0
          I don’t know for sure, since the telegrams haven’t been sent to them yet, but the deceased pilot was on the SMT like, in the groups they write in any case, but the burnt one ... But I suppose that the SMT too
  19. Doliva63
    Doliva63 24 August 2021 20: 20
    0
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: Doliva63
    But in "stagnation", if, for example, it was necessary weld the wing to the plane, the plane was always started - for the fire extinguishing system to work, if suddenly something. Rrazdolbai! am

    Well, he piled up. What kind of welding did you weld? Where did they start? fool
    My squadron commander said - "Born to crawl, don't get confused on the runway"

    And what, with humor problems, or what? laughing And then, what would your squadron commander do without OBATO fighters "confused" on the runway, I wonder?
  20. Doliva63
    Doliva63 24 August 2021 20: 27
    0
    Quote: Wedmak
    In Astrakhan and the surrounding area there is a wild heat, about 40 in the shade. You can imagine how much in the sun and on concrete. So I wouldn't be surprised if something flared up there, they didn't see it.

    Has it flashed by itself? Are you laughing? wassat
  21. Mityasha
    Mityasha 6 September 2021 06: 01
    0
    Quote: Rushnairfors
    There is a little left in Kubinka,

    There were never any of them in the Cuban.