Press of Ukraine: Yemen is interested in Ukrainian 14,5-mm long-range rifles

The Ukrainian anti-material sniper rifle PG-14,5 Dezert Snake, presented at the international exhibition IDEF 2021 in Turkey, aroused great interest from foreign customers. The Ukrainian edition of Defense Express writes about this with reference to the press service of Ukrspetsexport.

As the newspaper writes, the Ukrainian "infantry gun" of 14,5 mm caliber was developed by the "Mayak-Perspektiva" company, which is part of the "Mayak Plant" JSC. The new sniper rifle was first presented at an international exhibition in Istanbul and immediately attracted great interest from foreign delegations.

According to the representative of "Ukrspetsexport", a number of countries have expressed their readiness to purchase this weapon and negotiations are already underway with them. In particular, Yemen showed great interest in the rifle, whose representatives were shown weapons and proved the advisability of using this particular "infantry gun" as a budget solution to repel threats from the sea. PG-14,5 Dezert Snake offered to the Navy and the Yemen Coast Guard.

According to the director of Mayak-Perspektiva, Alexander Gordeev, who is also the chief designer, the conditions of a contract with the Yemeni military for the supply of long-range rifles are currently being discussed. As part of the agreement, it is planned to open a training center on the territory of the republic, in which the Yemeni military will take training courses "Tactics and strategy of modern anti-material combat based on the combat experience of the PG-14,5 infantry cannon."

How many Ukrainian long-range rifles are going to buy Yemen is not reported.

Comments

[Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations]

Interesting design. Who is well versed in shooting, explain why the butt is made like that?

[Peak]

Press of Ukraine: Yemen interested in Ukrainian 14,5-mm long-range rifles

And what kind of Yemen is this, "official", the one that is waging a war against its own people, calling on the Saudis as patron companions?

Well, of course ... Kiev knows a lot about the violent suppression of the rights and freedoms of citizens who disagree with it ...

[out of habit]

I think the recoil shoulder is to compensate, against the toss.

[Uncle lee]

Ukrainian "infantry cannon" caliber 14,5 mm

A killer thing! More terrible than the Hammer!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

I doubt it is worse than the Hammer. That one, if it breaks, cripples, kills 3-4-5 people, but this thing, of course, cannot do more than one ...

[Uncle lee]

"Bastard, in his own bullets."
"Wedding in Malinovka"
And how many kilometers?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Salavat EMERCOM

Interesting design

There was an excellent self-loading PTRS (Simonova). Well, they would have made it according to the "Bulpup" system, the muzzle brake is more powerful, the materials are modern and the sight is optical. Moreover, they are in warehouses.
So no, something from "Star Wars" was composed. And what can a single 70 g bullet weighing a floating craft do to anyone except, perhaps, rubber boats?

[Popandos]

except, perhaps, rubber boats?

This "cannon" is long-range, and at long distances to get into a boat swaying on the waves is not aimed fire, but firing for good luck. So this thing is safe for rubber bands as well.

[tatarin1972]

I could be wrong, but it's kind of like a rework of the KPVT. This means that the barrel is not of increased accuracy.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

So no, something from "Star Wars" was composed.

More like Warhammer. It looks like the work of the orcs there. This recoil system (if this is it) is so to itself ... Okay, "for PR" they called it "infantry cannon", but not literally tinkering with it?
Just do not tell them about such a thing as "pocket artillery". Otherwise, the integrity of the trousers will be in question.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

There was an excellent self-loading PTRS (Simonova). Well, they would have made it according to the "Bulpup" system, the muzzle brake is more powerful, the materials are modern and the sight is optical.

To make a high-precision rifle based on the PTRS, you need to completely abandon the PTRS.
For the PTRS already at a distance of 500 m, the core strips are 105 cm in height and 92 cm in width.
That is, the PTRS achieved 70% of hits in the meter-by-meter area at a distance of 500 m. Or it could lay three of four hits in a circle with a diameter of 22 cm at a distance of 100 m (check the battle and lead to a normal battle).
The core dispersion bands of the PTRD and PTRS are given in Manual on shooting (NSD-42). Anti-tank self-loading rifle mod. 1941 Simonov-PTRS system. Anti-tank single-shot rifle mod. 1941 Degtyarev-PTRD system. - Edition revised and enlarged. - M .: Voenizdat, 1944 .-- 96 p.... Only the edition needs to be taken 1944 years - in the previous edition (1942), a mistake was made in this description.

Plus, the PTRS were susceptible to ruptured casings, damage to the shutters, delays in firing, and in the 135th regiment of the NKVD Internal Troops it came to the rupture of the receiver.

[Region-25.rus]

To make a high-precision rifle based on PTRS, you need to completely abandon PTRS

I read from Michael Jones in - "Stalingrad. How the triumph of the Red Army" took place, what else Vasily Zaitsev experimented with by fitting optics to PTRs. As a result, they abandoned the idea.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Region-25.rus

I read from Michael Jones in - "Stalingrad. How the triumph of the Red Army" took place, what else Vasily Zaitsev experimented with by fitting optics to PTRs. As a result, they abandoned the idea.

EMNIP, not only was the accuracy of the PTR bad, but also the optical sight on the gun lived 3-5 shots.

[Region-25.rus]

I also say -

abandoned the idea

)))

[Alexander Pseudonym]

Hello. The standard of large-caliber sniper rifles is the 12 mm barrets.
A larger caliber is not advisable, it is difficult to carry.

[Region-25.rus]

why not raise the butt even higher? So that you could aim while standing in full growth?

[Egoza]

Quote: Region-25.rus

why not raise the butt even higher? So that you could aim while standing in full growth?

Standing, lying, kneeling .... what's the difference? When in Yemen they find out how many bribes must be given before signing the documents, this "product" will immediately cease to please! )))

[Region-25.rus]

when in Yemen they find out how many bribes to pay before signing documents

and even remember the epics with the BTR-4 (or whatever it is) and with tanks for Thailand .... I think they will say - "Yes, go nafig with your iron!" (from a famous anecdote)

[Incvizitor]

And the sight is on the butt, otherwise it is inconvenient to aim ...

[out of habit]

So that you could aim while standing in full growth? what
Recoil will break his legs.

[Region-25.rus]

Recoil will break your legs

maybe ... on this and the calculation? there are already precedents. Then the mortars explode, the machine guns, after the "modernization", self-dismantle ...

[knn54]

- as a budget solution for repelling threats from the sea. PG-14,5 Dezert Snake.
It seems that the revival of the Naval Forces of Ukraine was decided to begin with Pikhotnoi Garmati.
About the number of Yemenis will consult with the Houthis-business, no more.

[Private SA]

About the "anti-material battle" - it's fresh. Will they actually be shot with antimatter, or will they fight on the spiritual plane?

[Region-25.rus]

antimatter will be shot

I do not know your comment banter or not, but I will make it clear - "anti-material" means against the material part in the main. And not against manpower (although not without it)

[Peak]

Quote: Private SA

In fact, antimatter will be shot, or
the spiritual plane fight to lead ?

According spirituality , this is not for this Bandera regime ...

[rocket757]

How many Ukrainian long-range rifles are going to buy Yemen is not reported

... Here, here, ABOUT ANYTHING.

[yfast]

Hang on the wall of the tent for show-off.

[Private SA]

Quote: Region-25.rus

I don't know your comment is banter or not,

Banter. About the name of the training courses. What is the modern tactics and strategy of withdrawal from
the formation of the material part of the enemy differs from the actions of the calculation of the anti-tank
guns Degtyarev or Simonov?

[Region-25.rus]

Banter

then "aim sori aim skewzmi! I'm wildly sorry"))))

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Private SA

What is the modern tactics and strategy of withdrawal from
the formation of the material part of the enemy differs from the actions of the calculation of the anti-tank
guns Degtyarev or Simonov?

At least in the fact that the PTR was prescribed to be used in groups. This compensated for the poor accuracy and low armor action.
In general, PTR and AMR differ approximately as an infantry "marksman" and a sniper.

[Nikolaevich I]

Unlike the 12,7-mm "rifles", the 14,5-mm rifle did not go very well ... Although there are examples! For example: DPR, South Africa with their "bicalibr", something was started in Russia (there were reports ...), here Krajina drew ... From "close", Austria presented 15,2-mm and 15,5-mm " rifles ...

[Okolotochny]

Last year, there was news at VO - the Croats seemed to be made in a caliber of 20 or 23 mm.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Okolotochny

Last year, there was news at VO - the Croats seemed to be made in a caliber of 20 or 23 mm.

Croats have their RT-20 since 1994! In South Africa there is NTW20 ... in Suomi -RK20 ....

[sgapich]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

... in Suomi -RK20 ....

The Finns also had a Lahti L-39, also 20 mm. There is a good article about her in the magazine "Kalashnikov", with good photos.
https://www.kalashnikov.ru/medialibrary/07d/018_024.pdf

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: sgapich

The Finns also had a Lahti L-39, also 20 mm.

There was ... but that's what they say. "last century" ! Well I mentioned "modern", rifles, ... (late 20th-early 21st centuries)

[9lvariag]

Tony Neophytou himself, the Mehem designer, evaluated the ballistics of the dense 20mm. Hispano is average. When asked why

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Quote: sgapich

The Finns also had a Lahti L-39, also 20 mm.

There was ... but that's what they say. "last century" ! Well I mentioned "modern", rifles, ... (late 20th-early 21st centuries)

to a seemingly monstrous 20mm. to make a replaceable kit also under the cartridge 14,5 PKP / KPV, it answered itself. that Soviet cartridges have better ballistics than Hispano. And the cartridge itself is lighter.

[9lvariag]

By the way: the Swiss themselves after 20mm. Hispano on the Solothurn S18-1000 (20 mm Tankbüchse 40) remade the new Solothurn Tb41 PTR for a different caliber 24mm.x138mm. (Although I did not understand 210 mm in some.). with 40 matrons - 10kg! And the new Solothurn Tb50 with a gun carriage and clips - up to 41kg!

[9lvariag]

A pitiful piece of work on the PTR Croatian RT-20? And also under the dense air cartridge 20mm. Hispano, who is weak himself. I have sleeves from VYa 23mm in the garage.; from the naval anti-aircraft machine gun; from PKP 14,5mm. - so the cartridge from the ship's turret is simply gigantic in comparison with the Hispano.

[volodimer]

With the choice of caliber, everything is clear, there is a cartridge 14,5x114, there are barrels from the CPV, and possibly from the anti-tank rifle, why not stir up something "unprecedented new" - an "infantry cannon" for example!
They, on the basis of mosinki trunks, have already created a "super-duper" sniper rifle VM MP-UOS, which, too, "well, everyone just wanted it."
https://topwar.ru/87012-novaya-ukrainskaya-snayperskaya-vintovka-vm-mp-uos.html
By the way, I never found the difference with VM2 MP-UOS ... The first and second copies?
And as for the caliber, 12,7mm turned out to be the most optimal: it is easier to provide the required accuracy, has an acceptable weight and is able to inflict sufficient damage, again at a reasonable range.
But there is always a temptation to "fire a gun and a tank", so they are trying to master calibers up to 20mm.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: volodimer

so they are trying to master calibers up to 20mm.

Duc, "trying to master calibers up to" up to 30 mm (and even more ...)!

"Separatist" 23 mm

Barrett XM109 (25mm)

GRIFFIN 30mm

SP-30 (30 mm)

ARPAD 600 (35mm)
PS In Ukraine "Mayak" develops "rifles" 23 mm and 30 mm ...

[rotmistr60]

I have a simple question - what quality products can a "almost member" country have (literally from Zelensky in relation to Ukraine to NATO and the EU)? Well, if only they learned how to make perfect barrels and adapted someone else's optics.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: rotmistr60

What quality products can a "almost member" country have (literally from Zelensky in relation to Ukraine to NATO and the EU)? Well, if you just learned how to make perfect trunks

Rather, they found a bunch of trunks in warehouses and figured out how to use them.

[APASUS]

We are waiting for the appearance of a 152 mm sniper rifle from Ukrainian manufacturers

[Jacket in stock]

What's so funny?
There they shoot at each other with 23 mm "rifles". So 14 mm is nothing.

[APASUS]

Quote: Jacket in stock

What's so funny?

Increasing caliber does not increase accuracy, but increases problems

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: APASUS

Increase in caliber, does not increase accuracy

It's not about accuracy at all. In trench warfare, range and penetration are also needed.

[APASUS]

Quote: Jacket in stock

It's not about accuracy at all. In trench warfare, range and penetration are also needed.

that's why I wrote on this:

We are waiting for the appearance of a 152 mm sniper rifle from Ukrainian manufacturers

[Alexey RA]

Quote: APASUS

We are waiting for the appearance of a 152 mm sniper rifle from Ukrainian manufacturers

Pomnitz, at VIF, in the discussion of large-caliber snipers, they wrote that the best sniper rifle for counter-sniper combat is the 2A46.

[volodimer]

Why waste time on trifles ... 2A3 with a projectile with a special warhead. at 26,5 km, and even within a radius ... Only now the recoil is too big.

[Jacket in stock]

The rifle, which is also called an "anti-material or infantry gun", is based on a 14,5 mm 2X35 self-loading self-loading cannon designed for training firing without consuming the main ammunition of Soviet-style tanks equipped with 125 mm guns.

https://topwar.ru/179685-v-jetom-godu-vsu-mogut-poluchit-krupnokalibernye-kompleksy-ukrainskogo-proizvodstva.html

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

What's the point in such a weapon? We'll have to do it according to the cannon scheme with a recoil and knurl, which will increase the weight of an already heavy gun. Two of us will have to carry. Isn't it better to use ready-made heavy machine guns. There are ready-made DShK, KPV, Kord and NSTV, especially since a collimator sight has been developed for large-caliber machine guns. For a sniper, stealth and the ability to move are important, and such a hand cannon deliberately excludes this.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

What's the point in such a weapon?

What was in the warehouse, they did it from that. The alarm machine was fastened to the former cannon and a sight with a butt was attached.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

There are rifles in 14.5 mm caliber:
PTRD
PTRS
Gepard M3
IST Istiglal
M500
Snipex t-rex
What's the innovation? Hang out the barrel and bolt group cantilever?
So so solution.

PTR L-39 in caliber 20mm
Do you want to use new materials and a new muzzle brake?

[beeper]

I also thought that, if in my mind, in those dimensions of the lurid-absurd "14,5mm pikhotnoi garmat" it was already possible to build a real 20mm fluff (similar to the Swedish-Finnish L-39).
A 20mm projectile and a 14,4mm bullet are two big differences!
But the horny Bandero "cow" God of the horns (and "nema cabs" ) Did NOT, and this is fair!

[Alexander X]

Now, if the Yemeni press wrote about the interest of Yemen, then one could believe it. And the press of Ukraine writes ... There is no such news of trust ...

[KSVK]

Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations

Interesting design. Who is well versed in shooting, explain why the butt is made like that?

Apparently this is a recoil compensator.
Shl The screw behind the receiver looks cool. Associations with the PTRD immediately arise.

[riwas]

Yemen interested in Ukrainian 14,5-mm long-range rifles

Why not Donbass? They have very good large-caliber ASKV-14,5 Donchanka rifles.
https://topwar.ru/141808-sobstvennoe-oruzhie-donbassa.html

[Walking towards the light]

"Ukrainian" infantry gun "of 14,5 mm caliber" I have one question - why. SVLK-14S "Twilight" uses cartridges. 408 Chey Tac, 10,3 × 77 mm, range 4200 m. will shoot down ICBMs on the acceleration section of the trajectory?)) Nonsense. Gigantomania.