The Spanish press announced the landmark defeat of the West in Afghanistan

In withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, the United States sacrificed its democratic ideals for its own benefit. Indeed, for Washington now it is more important not to be scattered over multiple goals, but to concentrate its forces against the rapidly growing power of China, which claims to be global leadership.

This is the reasoning of the Spanish political scientist Jose Maria Lassalle, whose article on this topic was published by the newspaper El Pais.

He considers the actions of the American administration to be a clear manifestation of selfishness, because thousands of defenseless people who collaborated with the Western military remained in the country. At the same time, the Spanish press announced the defeat of America and the entire West in Afghanistan. Such a lightning-fast seizure of power in the country by the Taliban terrorist movement banned in Russia looks extremely humiliating for Washington and its allies. It turns out that after 20 years of the presence in the country of the American military and their NATO partners in Afghanistan, nothing was achieved, and the local security forces trained by Western instructors and armed by the United States turned out to be unable to defend the existing government on their own.

This suggests that the efforts of the United States and the North Atlantic Alliance did not affect anything, and the West suffered a shameful, symbolic defeat. It is especially humiliating that almost all weapon, military equipment and ammunition left by the Americans to government forces to defend against the Taliban * are now in the hands of the Taliban *.

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[Thrifty]

The Yankees control the process. It only seems to us that the Taliban are on their own. Weapons and equipment were left to them, as well as territories, so that over time it would be possible to beat us in the back. And, knowing that there is scatter and vacillation in the ranks of the Pashtun commanders, each of them wants more power, there will be those who can easily refuse all obligations and promises, and will shit on us!

[Shurik70]

He considers the actions of the American administration to be a clear manifestation of selfishness.

I did not understand something.
Is this Spaniard a communist?
Selfishness is the foundation of capitalist society.
So there ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE SELFISH

[Tatyana]

almost all of the weapons, military equipment and ammunition left by the Americans to government forces to defend against the Taliban * are now in the hands of the Taliban *.

This is the most IMPORTANT! On the part of the United States, this, in my opinion, is a well-thought-out move, ensuring the chaos of the civil war in Afghanistan and the aggravation of the situation in the region for the future!

And how does Washington operate around the world? We already know that. Namely.
Americans first create a PROBLEM somewhere, and then wait to be asked and invited to resolve it on more trusting grounds and more favorable conditions in this country and in this region.

TOTAL. Therefore, in the long term, with such a well-thought-out policy, the United States usually has little to lose. The worse it will be in Afghanistan, the better for the future for the United States.

[hrych]

Quote: Tatiana

Americans first create a PROBLEM somewhere, and then wait to be asked and invited to solve it.

Those. ripped apart Iraq and, as a result, its fierce enemy - Iran now dominates Iraq because of the Shiite majority. They scattered Afghan and as a result the Taliban already completely seized the territory (then the Taliban owned a little more than half of Afgan), seized more than 2 thousand armored vehicles and a mountain of other weapons. The Americans also loved Pakistan. China was their six and an assembly shop with slaves, and now threatens with missiles and squeezes out of the markets. As they say, from the taiga to the British seas, or rather from the Mediterranean to Japan, they drove the Americans with scruffy rags

[Tatyana]

Quote: hrych

As they say, from the taiga to the British seas, or rather from the Mediterranean to Japan, they drove the Americans with scruffy rags.

So yes, not quite in the history of the United States, everything was just the way it was, as you say.
For example. South Korea is now under the influence of the United States, Vietnam too. About Japan and European countries of the former socialist camp I'm not talking at all! Everything is clear with them. Turkey will not leave NATO either.
The United States can also come to an agreement with China if it does not turn up its nose.

The US Federal Reserve still dominates the world. And finances are blood cells in the vessels of the world economy, life-giving the national organism. It's just that the United States will apply, for example, sanctions and force the world to join them. The US has already blocked Afghan government reserves for the Taliban in US banks.

So the chaos in Afghanistan will be precisely controlled by the Americans! Everything will be as I say.
At the same time, the defensive influence of Russia's national interests is certainly great, but it is still not decisive and will cost Russia dearly. In other words, the situation in Afghanistan will exhaust Russia to a certain extent economically and militarily. Is it profitable for the USA? Yes, anyway it is beneficial for the United States in all respects!

[hrych]

There will be no chaos in Afghanistan, which was hoped for, the Taliban have already subjugated it. Now, under the guarantees of Russia, Masudik will be taken out of the encirclement in a column and everything will end completely. In the Asia-Pacific region, even dual power will bring the United States to the level of the United Kingdom, and there is no longer absolute domination. Therefore, there are unsolvable contradictions with the PRC. One claims to be a superpower, the second claims to lose this status. And the past successes of the United States are interesting to historians, this does not affect the present and future. The APR is the last front of the United States as an empire. The rest they clicked irrevocably. The main miscalculation is Russia. They could not keep within the colony after winning the Cold War, the second miscalculation of the PRC, which they missed while tinkering with Russia. Now the flight from Iraq and Afgan. Moreover, Russia did everything to get in there (as the United States itself provoked the USSR). And because of Iraq and Afghanistan, they eventually missed Russia, and then China So they also clicked on Pakistan.

[knn54]

Thrifty, I will add.
The Taliban will press on Washington, hoping for "concessions" in a PROVEN way - through the Russian Federation.
For example, through a regular meeting in Moscow.
It is clear that in Afghan affairs the Yankees will be VERY sensitive to the presence of Russia.
MUCH more than the presence of the PRC and IRI combined.

[hrych]

Quote: Thrifty

Weapons and equipment were left to them, as well as territories

All this was left to the puppet government of Afgan and its three hundred thousandth army. If they abandoned everything and fled, what does the USA have to do with it? See, even I have to defend Americans against injustice So pathetic after these events

[Olgovich]

Quote: Thrifty

The Yankees control the process.

looking at the poorly understanding Biden, who, I think, does not control the diaper, it is difficult to imagine such a multi-move.

They just fled shamefully, leaving everything and everyone behind.

[alch3mist]

looking at the poorly understanding Biden, who, I think, does not control the diaper, it is difficult to imagine such a multi-move.

Yes, he perfectly understands everything (for many old people, the body may refuse, but the brain works fine).
He simply does not want to answer the crowds of demagogues to rhetorical questions, there are more important things to do: throw off all possible ballast, albeit at a loss, in order to quench BLM and others tearing up Pindostan, to concentrate, to catch up. And after that, continue to shit and wreak havoc around the world - they don't know how to make money in any other way.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

The shame of the Americans will remain in the memory of mankind for a long time. But what about the allies left by the Americans in Afghanistan, or those who performed peace contracts there in PMCs ???

[YOUR]

I do not know whether this has happened in the history of mankind or not. To drive a trillion dollars, spend twenty years to remove the Taliban in order to transfer power to the Taliban.

[sabakina]

Quote: YOUR

I do not know whether this has happened in the history of mankind or not. To drive a trillion dollars, spend twenty years to remove the Taliban in order to transfer power to the Taliban.

I will not speak for all of humanity, but someone is clearly degrading.

[dauria]

I don’t know whether this has happened in the history of mankind or not.

Have you forgotten the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the CMEA? Money has been thrown in and weapons have been donated to NATO - enough for dozens of "Talibans".

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: dauria

Have you forgotten the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the CMEA? Money has been thrown in and weapons have been donated to NATO - enough for dozens of "Talibans".

Yes, it seems.
The difference is that the collapse of the CMEA and the Varshavsky striped did not at their own expense, but at the expense of the USSR, finding and feeding Judas in it.

[lucul]

The difference is that the collapse of the CMEA and the Varshavsky striped did not at their own expense, but at the expense of the USSR, finding and feeding Judas in it

What kind of Jude? ))))
Everything is much simpler - it is enough to find terry egoists, elevate them to power, and then they will pick up an environment of the same egoists)))
A striking example is Afghanistan.
They lured egoists to themselves by promising a beautiful wrapper, what's so surprising that the egoists didn't want to fight? ))))

[Artemion3]

Let all this war be forgotten in a month, just as the Vietnamese defeat was forgotten. But the money is a pity, yes.

[Bat]

For several days they have been talking about the same topic, they say America has lost, NATO has lost. How did you lose? How did you lose? What nonsense everyone is talking about.
The country was flooded with how many were killed, drug trafficking is under their control. She earned billions on this. They stuffed their old stuff to the Afghans (debt or cash) and when they got tired of this game, they decided to dump.

[From Tomsk]

Biden was blown away by the wind a couple of times. Straight to the Taliban on the bottle. But nothing, an experienced grandfather. Strong guy. He got up, put on his pants and continues to drive the blizzard as if nothing had happened))

[Walking towards the light]

“For several days they have been talking about the same topic, they say America lost, NATO lost. How did they lose? How did they lose?” Yarasa said. I agree. Yesterday there was an interview with Boris Gromov. He replied, "Nothing new. They are now in 1385. That's where they returned." The Afghans do not want either socialism or democracy. They want Pashtunwali and Islam.

[askort154]

The most indicative for the US-NATO. Bravo went there under NATO slogans, and also lured there those who dreamed of getting into NATO - Georgians, Ukrainians and others. And in the end, everyone runs away one by one. All this looks very shameful.

[Babay Atasovich]

And what did you want from them? .. As someone from the members of the forum said: what to expect from the army, which calls the aircraft carrier to suppress the machine-gun point !!!

[rocket757]

The Spanish press announced the landmark defeat of the West in Afghanistan

... Oh really? And what conclusions will be drawn from this?

[Ross xnumx]

The Spanish press announced the landmark defeat of the West in Afghanistan

It's like: put a fat cross on all western warriors?
It is not always possible to pass under the Arc de Triomphe. Sometimes you have to be content with a stampede.

[Nyrobsky]

What can you say?
Even in Spain, it became apparent how exemplary the American Chief of Staff had done their shit. Crackling is all over the planet)))
It is not for nothing that they say - "The larger the cabinet, the louder it falls"

[Vasyan1971]

The United States sacrificed its proclaimed ideals of democracy for its own benefit.

Duc and recommended "ideals of democracy" were invented precisely for their own benefit! So, everything is fine!

[Egor53]

In Afghanistan, not only the United States, but all NATOs have shown their complete non-combat capability. If this alliance could not defeat the Taliban, then it will not be able to win the war even with Ukraine. We are generally silent about Russia. For Honduras, or Estonia, they still have enough .... for now. But the influence of LGBT people is growing.