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Day of the officer of Russia

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An officer is not just a rank or profession. For most people, this word is associated with honor, courage, dedication and role model.

On August 21, our country celebrates Officer's Day. And despite the fact that this date does not have an official status, and the holiday began to be celebrated only a few years ago, this day is special for former and current representatives of the command staff.

It is worth noting that the very title of officer appeared during the reign of Emperor Peter I. At the same time, at that time only members of noble families could be awarded it.

People without noble status began to receive a prestigious title only at the end of the XNUMXth century. But here, too, there were some nuances. It was impossible to become an officer without military merit.

After the October Revolution of 1917, they tried to completely get rid of the officer rank. Often people were appointed to officer positions even without education, not to mention military merit. At the same time, the title itself was renamed to "commander".

However, the aforementioned period did not last long. The "return" of officers to the army took place already in the 30s of the last century. Today, this title is held by representatives of the command staff of all power structures.

By the way, in pre-revolutionary times there was even an unwritten officer's code. Its rules were fully consistent with the moral foundations of society, and their violation invariably followed severe punishment. An officer who “lost” his honor found it extremely difficult to restore his position in society.

Many members of the command staff continue to honor this code and adhere to the unwritten rules today. That is why the word "officer" is still associated with honor and moral stability.

As mentioned above, Officer's Day in Russia is celebrated unofficially. The initiators of the establishment of a professional holiday several years ago were representatives of the public organization "Officers of Russia". At the same time, members of the organization have already sent a letter to President Vladimir Putin with a request to give the holiday an official status.

As for the date itself - August 21, it was not chosen by chance. The officers celebrate their professional holiday just on the eve of the Day of the State Flag of the Russian Federation - a symbol of the Fatherland, for which these brave people are ready to sacrifice their lives.

According to an established tradition, festive concerts are held on August 21 in military cities, garrisons and officers' houses. Both current officers and veterans on this day accept congratulations and spend time with family and friends at the festive table.
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  1. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 21 August 2021 04: 02
    +6
    ***
    Officers, officers, your heart is at gunpoint
    For Russia and freedom to the end
    Officers, Russians, may freedom shine
    Making hearts sound in unison ...
    ***
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 21 August 2021 05: 08
      -38
      The officers ran out even during the Bolsheviks during the civil war.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 August 2021 05: 29
        +3
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        The officers ran out even during the Bolsheviks during the civil war.

        The institution of the "officer corps" currently remains in the regulatory documents: the armed forces of the Russian Federation and the Russian National Guard. The peculiarity, in contrast to special ranks, does not specify the affiliation of the service.
        1. SKVichyakow
          SKVichyakow 21 August 2021 08: 24
          -11
          In this case, I think he meant the loss of honor and dignity of a part of the officer corps, but the fish always rots from the head.
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 August 2021 08: 40
            +11
            Quote: SKVichyakow
            In this case, I think, he meant the loss of honor and dignity from a part of the officer corps.

            The institution of officers was returned to the pre-war period with the return of ranks. During the war years, shoulder straps also returned. Blaming the commanding staff of the Red Army is disgusting. As well as the guys who fought in Avganets, Chechnya, Syria! Tyapun is kind to your tongue.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 21 August 2021 14: 58
              +1
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              The institution of officers was returned to the pre-war period with the return of ranks. During the war years, shoulder straps also returned. Blaming the commanding staff of the Red Army is disgusting. As well as the guys who fought in Avganets, Chechnya, Syria!

              Happy Officers Day, all involved!
              All of you health, success, luck and happiness in your personal life! love

              DEDICATED TO RUSSIAN OFFICERS!


              Officer's waltz. Dedicated to Soviet officers.


              Alexander and Ekaterina YELIZAROVY - LEYTENANT WALTZ
          2. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 21 August 2021 10: 52
            -7
            The truth always hurts, and rarely anyone admits it. But it's better to BE than to SEE,
      2. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 21 August 2021 10: 58
        +12
        Officers ran out even during the Bolsheviks during the civil war
        They ended as an exclusively noble stratum. Moreover, it (officers) began to end back in WWI, when, due to the loss of junior officers, they began to assign ranks to any "cattle" from the lower classes. Yes Yes. The society was class-based. And not exclusively from the "Schubert waltzes and the crunch of the French roll"
        1. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 22 August 2021 12: 46
          0
          Stupid stupid person? My condolences!
          1. Region-25.rus
            Region-25.rus 22 August 2021 12: 56
            +1
            Stupid stupid person? My condolences!
            Your condolences are not interesting to me. Can I get more details?
      3. Prosha
        Prosha 21 August 2021 16: 00
        0
        The officers ran out

        Dear, take away the chase for chatter on this site and live peacefully this day is not yours and not for you!
        1. BAI
          BAI 21 August 2021 17: 00
          0
          Well, there are not officer's shoulder straps. As a reserve lieutenant colonel I speak.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 21 August 2021 09: 24
      +9
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      Officers, officers, your heart is at gunpoint
      For Russia and freedom to the end
      Officers, Russians, may freedom shine
      Making hearts sound in unison ...


      First, Happy Holidays to everyone involved! soldier drinks

      Secondly, excuse the colleagues of the old soldier (officer) with two companies behind my back, maybe I'm wrong (probably I am), but I just can't understand some of the words of this song of the talented composer and singer O. Gazmanov request
      What kind of ... Russians, the heart is at gunpoint ..., freedom will shine ... leaving a career ... what kind of soldier's blood and pitying mothers ...? request

      And for some reason this is his song in his album under the drunken title "Spent" negative

      I get up (when I drink) only when these more or less understandable four lines sound:
      The guys are leaving again, dissolving in the sunsets
      Russia called them, as it happened more than once
      And again you leave, maybe straight to heaven
      And from somewhere above you forgive us
  2. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 21 August 2021 04: 10
    +19
    Of course, Happy Holidays to all officers! but something of the holidays has become incomprehensible and never celebrated before - at least by me .. as a senior reserve officer, just wondering .. but where is the day of the ensign / midshipman, sergeant / foreman, soldier / sailor? although so if you celebrate everything that has appeared, you get drunk laughing for me February 23 and December 17 are holidays .. well, you can still "day of the drunk cadet" laughing
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 21 August 2021 06: 24
      +7
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      for me on February 23

      good
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      Of course, Happy Holidays to all officers!

      What about these?

      Consider them officers or simply "shoulder straps"?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 21 August 2021 06: 32
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Consider them officers or simply "shoulder straps"?

        I wonder how many times it is necessary to disassemble the fact that they are not military personnel, but civilians
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BD#%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8B_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B1%D1%8B_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 21 August 2021 06: 36
          +5
          Quote: Dart2027
          I wonder how many times you need to parse that fact ...

          Until they stop perverting it:
          An officer (German Offizier, through the late Latin officiarius - an official, from Latin officium - a position) [3] is an official of power structures, in which there is an officer corps. For example, the Ministry of Defense.

          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Офицер
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 21 August 2021 10: 56
            +1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Офицер

            Let me tell you a secret - in the power structures there are not only security officials, but also civilians.
        2. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 21 August 2021 08: 07
          +3
          Quote: Dart2027
          I wonder how many times it is necessary to disassemble the fact that they are not military personnel, but civilians

          From left to right:
          First soldier.
          The second wears a uniform (not a serviceman), is a civil servant.
          The third has a special rank: Major General of Police.
          Fourth, it is impossible to discern belonging to the department, the uniform is ceremonial, even in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the generals were of that color.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 21 August 2021 11: 00
            +1
            Quote: Lynx2000
            First soldier

            Maria Vladimirovna Kitaeva (born in 1986 in Belgium) is a Russian TV presenter of the Vesti program on Russia-24 and a statesman. Advisor to the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (2012), Class 3 Active State Adviser of the Russian Federation.
            She works in the Ministry of Defense, but she is not a serviceman.
            Quote: Lynx2000
            The third has a special rank: Major General of Police

            Well, the police are not the army, but here we are talking about the military.
            Quote: Lynx2000
            The fourth cannot be disassembled

            Likewise, but I believe it will be the same - either the police or the civilian.
            1. Lynx2000
              Lynx2000 21 August 2021 12: 05
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Maria Vladimirovna Kitaeva

              In this case, she did not have the right to wear the uniform of a serviceman of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. In the photo it is the military uniform, with shoulder straps of the military rank of Art. lieutenant or captain.
              For the second (indicated that she was a civil servant), the third, you agree (indicated to you a special title).
              In the fourth photo, it is definitely not a civilian, look at the shoulder straps.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 21 August 2021 12: 31
                -1
                Quote: Lynx2000
                with shoulder straps of military rank Art. lieutenant or captain

                Stars on shoulder straps are not only for the military.
                Quote: Lynx2000
                The fourth photo is clearly not a civilian

                Maybe it's hard to see there, but I don't know her by sight.
                1. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 21 August 2021 14: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Stars on shoulder straps are not only for the military.

                  However (here's what a discrepancy) the officer corps is available in any power structures and there is confirmation of this:
                  Legislatively, in power structures, where military service is not provided, there is no concept of "officer". In turn, the Law "On Military Duty and Military Service" does not give the concept of an officer as such. Its subject is legal regulation exclusively in the field of conscription and military service. From the law, in particular, we learn that in the armed forces and other formations where military service is provided, there are military ranks of officers, which in itself does not deny the existence of officers in other departments. The prefix "military", according to the legislator, means that the officer rank may not be military.

                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Maybe it's hard to see there, but I don't know her by sight.

                  From left to right:
                  Elena Isinbaeva, Tatiana Shevtsova, Irina Volk, Tatiana Moskalkova ...
                  By the way ...
                  Officer's Day is the main military holiday in Russia. It is celebrated on August 21st. On this day, congratulations and words of gratitude for the services and years of service to the Fatherland accepts the entire leadership of all power structures of the country.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 21 August 2021 15: 05
                    0
                    Quote: ROSS 42
                    the officer corps is available in any power structures and there is confirmation of this

                    This is a fact, but I mean that shoulder straps are not only worn by the military.
                    Quote: ROSS 42
                    Yelena Isinbayeva

                    On May 6, 2015, the Russian Ministry of Defense signed a five-year contract with Elena Isinbayeva; she was appointed to the military position of CSKA athletics instructor. That is, formally, she is an officer, and she does her job. It is clear that she has nothing to do on the battlefield, but this is not required of her.
                    The rest are the same, since, say, an official representative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia with a lieutenant's shoulder straps will look somewhat strange.
                2. Lynx2000
                  Lynx2000 21 August 2021 23: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Quote: Lynx2000
                  with shoulder straps of military rank Art. lieutenant or captain

                  Stars on shoulder straps are not only for the military.
                  Quote: Lynx2000
                  The fourth photo is clearly not a civilian

                  Maybe it's hard to see there, but I don't know her by sight.

                  I agree with ROSS 42, I want to note that the law enforcement agencies (the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation - the operational department) also have officers, they take the oath, and they are assigned a special title. In the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, officers of the Internal Troops were assigned military ranks.
                  You yourself brought a link about class ranks, look at the shoulder straps.
            2. Agrippa
              Agrippa 22 August 2021 11: 37
              +1
              You are wrong, the first one - Yelena Gadzhievna Isinbayeva, an instructor in athletics of the Central Sports Club of the Army (CSKA), has the rank of major (there is also a captain in the photo) - two-time Olympic champion, multiple world and European champion.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 22 August 2021 13: 24
                -1
                Quote: Agrippa
                You are mistaken

                This was the most famous example that not only officers wear uniforms.
          2. Captain45
            Captain45 21 August 2021 17: 16
            0
            Quote: Lynx2000
            The fourth cannot be discerned belonging to the department, the uniform is ceremonial, even in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the generals had this color

            Police Major General Moskalkova, served in the investigation in the 90s, when it was part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Now, it seems, is engaged in human rights affairs.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 21 August 2021 06: 54
        +4
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Consider them officers or simply "shoulder straps"?

        Judge them according to their deeds! So you will figure out "which of the hu"
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 21 August 2021 06: 57
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          Judge them according to their deeds! So you will figure out "which of the hu"

          Thank you! Only the question was rhetorical. I have already figured out who is "who" and who is "case from who" ...
      3. smihko
        smihko 21 August 2021 08: 03
        0
        Well, a lipped general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is hardly possible. It’s somehow illogical when a talking head becomes a general. Numayor is probably the ceiling for such a position, regardless of the rank of the institution represented.
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 21 August 2021 17: 26
          -3
          Quote: smihko
          Well, a lipped general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is hardly possible. It’s somehow illogical when a talking head becomes a general. Numayor is probably the ceiling for such a position, regardless of the rank of the institution represented.

          According to the staffing table of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the rank of Irina Volk according to the position held is Major General of Police. She received this title according to the length of service. The issue of rank was repeatedly sorted out, including here, as well as on the others presented, at the time of its assignment, at the same time her track record was given with the dates of assignment of the next ranks. It's just that the ROSS42 commentator has another itching about the fact that someone has big stars on their epaulettes, but he doesn't have them. But for some reason the authorities are to blame for this. They had to serve according to the old rule: Warrior, act according to the charter, you will win honor and glory!
      4. Boris55
        Boris55 21 August 2021 08: 07
        -2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        What about these?

        1. Should sports develop in the army and should these athletes participate in the Olympics? At the last one third of all medals by athletes from Russia was won by athletes from the Armed Forces.

        2. Should a man be the main financier? The woman is more executive.

        3 and 4. Do you think women cannot be good investigators or judges?

        Now we are going through a period of demographic decline caused by the civil war and the Great Patriotic War superimposed on it. We must be grateful to the women for supporting the Russian army in this difficult time for the Motherland.

        All a happy holiday.

        ps
        I didn't quite understand why the photo was chosen for the article with the tsarist officers? Not much begging for their valor and honor, but nevertheless, was there really nothing more found? Are there really no heroic officers today who gave their lives for the good of the fatherland?
        1. Olkhovsky
          Olkhovsky 21 August 2021 08: 37
          +2

          Now we are going through a period of demographic decline caused by the civil war and the Great Patriotic War superimposed on it.

          Why not the First World War? Not the invasion of tmangol? Do not hesitate, shield the liberal 90s and their heirs, who are still sitting in the Kremlin.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 21 August 2021 14: 30
          0
          Quote: Boris55
          I didn't quite understand why the photo was chosen for the article with the tsarist officers? Not much begging for their valor and honor, but nevertheless, is there really nothing more to be found? Are there really no heroic officers today who gave their lives for the good of the fatherland?

          From what? For example, here is the AS-31 crew:


          There are other Heroes of Russia:
          Peshkov Oleg Anatolievich(1970-2015), Lieutenant Colonel, Hero of the Russian Federation (25.11.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX, posthumously)
          During a combat flight on a Su-24M aircraft over the Jebel Turkman mountain ridge, Latakia province, he was shot down by an F-16C fighter of the Turkish Air Force, died in an ejection, killed from the ground by Turkish nationalists.
          Prokhorenko Alexander Alexandrovich(1990-2016), senior lieutenant, Hero of the Russian Federation (11.04.2016, posthumously)
          Killed in action near Tadmor, Homs province.
          Khabibullin Ryafagat Makhmutovich(1965-2016), Colonel, Hero of the Russian Federation (28.07.2016, posthumously)
          The commander of the 55th separate helicopter regiment of the Southern Military District, Colonel Khabibullin, died on July 8, 2016 during the Russian military operation in Syria. Pilot-navigator Yevgeny Dolgin and the commander of the 55th separate regiment of army aviation, Colonel Ryafagat Khabibullin, died over the city of Palmyra while flying over a Syrian Mi-25 helicopter (export version of the Mi-24 helicopter) with ammunition in the province of Homs. The crew attacked a detachment of militants of the terrorist group "Islamic State", which broke through the defense of the Syrian troops, the offensive of the terrorists was thwarted. On the return course, the helicopter was hit by terrorists from the ground and fell in an area controlled by the Syrian government army.
          Filipov Roman Nikolaevich(1984-2018), Major, Hero of the Russian Federation (06.02.2018, posthumously)
          He was shot down and ejected during a planned flight on a Su-25SM aircraft near the city of Seraqib, Idlib province, died in a ground battle.
        3. Revival
          Revival 21 August 2021 15: 00
          +2
          "At the last 1/3 of all medals by athletes from Russia, was won by athletes from the Armed Forces."

          What a twist!
          So sportsmen from the Armed Forces dared to perform without a flag !!?
          This is a disgrace
      5. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 21 August 2021 08: 41
        -1
        The sportswoman understands everything with her. Army men have always had titles. The second is not an officer but a civil servant. The wolf has been representing the Ministry of Internal Affairs for many years, and it seems that she does not have an officer's rank, but a special one.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 21 August 2021 08: 45
          +2
          Quote: carstorm 11
          and it seems that she does not have an officer's rank, but a special one.

          And were there any officer ranks or special ranks in the KGB of the USSR?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 21 August 2021 08: 50
            0
            By the way, this is a question ... the border guards are officers ... doctors and sailors too ... but somehow I did not even delve into the apparatus ...
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 21 August 2021 08: 51
              0
              Quote: carstorm 11
              It will be necessary to understand

              In fact ... there may be questions ..
          2. tatarin1972
            tatarin1972 21 August 2021 08: 51
            +1
            Special titles were only in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 21 August 2021 08: 53
              -1
              Quote: tatarin1972
              Special titles were only in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

              And the VVshniks?
              1. tatarin1972
                tatarin1972 21 August 2021 09: 27
                +2
                I did not put it exactly, in the Internal Troops and the Fire Department the ranks of the offtser.
                1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
                  Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 21 August 2021 23: 20
                  0
                  You are wrong. Special ranks in the Ministry of Internal Affairs (police, justice, internal service), Ministry of Emergency Situations (internal service), VSIN (internal service), customs (customs service), investigative committee (justice). In the Rosgvardia, in combat units, the ranks of the military, in those transferred from the Ministry of Internal Affairs (OMON SOBR, non-departmental guard) - special ranks of the police.
            2. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 21 August 2021 08: 58
              -1
              If the truth is not only. There were also in the NKVD-MGB. And like a fireman. I've forgotten about customs ...
          3. Cat
            Cat 21 August 2021 08: 59
            +2
            Officers. They were registered by the Ministry of Defense and were in active military service. Regardless of whether it was border guards, WRC bodies or PGU
          4. Konnick
            Konnick 21 August 2021 09: 08
            +1
            And were there any officer ranks or special ranks in the KGB of the USSR?

            Were. At one time, until the 43rd. The senior lieutenant of the state security corresponded to the major of the Red Army, the captain of the state security to the colonel. It was also in the tsarist army, the captain of the Life Guards is a colonel of the army.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 10
              +2
              So, does not every KGB officer get it?
              1. Konnick
                Konnick 21 August 2021 09: 11
                +1
                The KGB border troops have been forgotten.
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 17
                  0
                  Quote: Konnick
                  The KGB border troops have been forgotten.

                  Why do you think so?
                  Quote: Konnick
                  So, does not every KGB officer get it?

                  How does it follow that I have forgotten? The KGB consisted not only of border troops ... it seems ...
                  1. Konnick
                    Konnick 21 August 2021 09: 22
                    0
                    Why do you think so?

                    You specify your question

                    So, does not every KGB officer get it?
                    1. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 25
                      0
                      Quote: Konnick
                      You specify your question

                      in the investigative department of the KGB, what ranks - officer or special?
                      1. Konnick
                        Konnick 21 August 2021 09: 29
                        +2
                        officer or special?

                        How do I know? I was not there. An officer and an officer in Africa. Whether he is a military engineer or a veterinarian.
                      2. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 32
                        0
                        Quote: Konnick
                        ... An officer and an officer in Africa.

                        It’s like that - the special rank is not an officer, then what's the difference ..
                      3. Konnick
                        Konnick 21 August 2021 09: 34
                        +2
                        special rank is not an officer, what's the difference

                        Can you read between the lines or are you fantasizing? Where did I write this?
                      4. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Konnick
                        Can you read between the lines or are you fantasizing? Where did I write this?

                        Do you read the thread when you take part in it?
                      5. Konnick
                        Konnick 21 August 2021 09: 49
                        0
                        Do you read the thread when you take part in it?

                        I answered the question, not yours, but you climbed ... a branch with bushes. It looks like everyone ignores you because of the strange manner of conducting a dialogue.
                      6. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 54
                        0
                        Quote: Konnick
                        I answered the question, not yours, but fit.

                        And I had no right to ask you a question? You wrote so authoritatively about the special ranks ... well, excuse me for making a mistake ...
                      7. Ross xnumx
                        Ross xnumx 21 August 2021 15: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: Konnick
                        An officer and an officer in Africa. Whether he is a military engineer or a veterinarian.

                        good I remembered the moment:
                      8. saygon66
                        saygon66 21 August 2021 20: 45
                        0
                        - Not quite so ... In the RI army, military engineers, veterinarians, and doctors wore officer's shoulder straps, but were somewhat impaired in their rights ... In particular, they did not have the right to vote in the officers' assembly.
                2. ccsr
                  ccsr 22 August 2021 14: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Konnick
                  The KGB border troops have been forgotten.
                  Not only.
                  And they also had government communications troops and radio intelligence and special radio communications, where real officers served, whose rank corresponded to positions approximately similar to those in the Ministry of Defense. Yes, and officers were trained for this, in addition to the Oryol School, also in the universities of the Ministry of Defense. Well, the military counterintelligence, too, in the overwhelming majority consisted of officers who had forgiven the way from a private.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 21 August 2021 08: 21
      +7
      but for some reason, many holidays have become incomprehensible and have never been celebrated before
      This is how they rewrite history, creating the unprecedented. Notice in the photo at the beginning of the article the tsarist officers, thus, as it were, legitimacy is given to this newly-minted "holiday".
    3. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 21 August 2021 09: 01
      +1
      ... for me February 23 and December 17 are holidays .. well, you can still "day of a drunken cadet"

      laughing
      Good day.
      hi

      Yes, each officer has "his own set of holidays."
      But on February 23 and the KDP on August 5, they are included on a mandatory basis.))
      Yes
      For me, the second Sunday in September is the main holiday.
      Even more abruptly on February 23, which had to be celebrated always "in belts and soap", the main reward of which was the removal of the previously imposed penalty and the issuance of "sand" medals at the Solemn Meeting.

      Has a new holiday appeared?
      Indeed, a lot of them got divorced.
      But "Officer's Day" is a very good idea.
      Really good.
      And what will come of it - it will be seen ...

      Comrade officers - to the bottom, only to the bottom!
      Do not break the Tradition.))
      drinks
  3. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 21 August 2021 04: 51
    +8
    Happy holiday comrades officers !!! soldier
    in pre-revolutionary times there was even an unwritten officer's code. Its rules were fully consistent with the moral foundations of society, and their violation invariably followed severe punishment. An officer who “lost” his honor found it extremely difficult to restore his position in society.
    Many members of the command staff continue to honor this code and adhere to the unwritten rules today. That is why the word "officer" is still associated with honor and moral stability.
    At one time, in our military school, one cadet, rejected by a friend, wrote her a letter with only mats and, securing this obscenity with a boot print, sent it to the address of residence. She, having familiarized herself with the contents, sent this letter to the head of the military school with a request to "educate" the ward. Major General Feodorov, in turn, having familiarized himself with the pearls, at the general construction of the school read out the order to expel the cadet from the school and sent him to the troops with the wording - "For a misdemeanor incompatible with the title of a future officer."
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 21 August 2021 20: 14
      +2
      I regret that the information voiced in this post of mine prompted the "three blessed" to three minus. The problem is not the cons, but the perception. You "minus" would at least voice what you do not agree with request
      For those interested, here is a brief information about the head of the Ordzhonikidze military school I mentioned G.A. Feodorov. Https://pravda-kmv.ru/nichto-na-zemle-ne-prohodit-bessledno/
      As for the expulsion of the "swearing man" I do not know from words, since I myself was present at that construction.
  4. andrewkor
    andrewkor 21 August 2021 04: 52
    +2
    In one of the interviews, VVP admitted that he gave the Officer's word not to touch the "Family" of his predecessor! And he faithfully observes this promise !!!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 August 2021 06: 56
      +7
      Quote: andrewkor
      In one of the interviews, VVP admitted that he gave the Officer's word not to touch the "Family" of his predecessor! And he faithfully observes this promise !!!

      The word of the officer must be kept! Only the family is too big. It was necessary to give the floor to a faithful Leninist or an honest politician.)))
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 August 2021 07: 48
        +8
        Quote: Egoza
        The officer's word must be kept!

        It is a pity that he did not give the officer's word with regard to the retirement age. He just said. laughing
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 21 August 2021 10: 12
      -1
      Quote: andrewkor
      In an interview, VVP admitted that he gave the floor to the Officer

      Well, what kind of officer he is, if a purely civilian who did not serve in power structures, after a civilian university and graduating from the courses of the "committee tower" was awarded the title and given shoulder straps - this did not change its essence. Real officers for the KGB were trained at the Oryol School, border schools of the USSR and in a number of military educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense, where there were committee groups that went entirely to serve in the KGB. This category of KGB officers had the moral right to be called officers, because they started with ordinary cadets, and pulled the strap like ordinary soldiers from the first day until graduation, learning about service. By the way, this category of KGB officers had different attitudes towards dress graduates, and I know this firsthand. And it's not even worth talking about military counterintelligence officers - they were taken there only after serving in the army, at least as a private, sent to study, and even more often already serving officers with army specialties.
    3. Revival
      Revival 21 August 2021 15: 04
      0
      Yes, and not only, more about the pension reform, yeah ..
  5. Alexey Koshkarov
    Alexey Koshkarov 21 August 2021 05: 01
    -1
    Our president is a true officer
    1. HaByxoDaBHocep
      HaByxoDaBHocep 21 August 2021 05: 29
      +6
      Our President, swore the oath given to the USSR
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 21 August 2021 06: 36
        -6
        Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
        betrayed the oath given to the USSR

        The collapse of the USSR, the CPSU and the Soviet government and ideology in general freed the Soviet military from the oath and any obligations. Those to whom they swore allegiance were gone. The Soviet oath did not oblige and did not demand to serve the new Russia and its armed forces. At this point, everyone was free to decide for himself: whether to join any post-Soviet army or say that he is an ideological Red Army soldier, serves only the Soviet regime and the ideals of communism, and leave the army altogether.
        Thus, if the USSR and the Soviet government committed voluntary suicide, the SA servicemen were no longer bound by the previous oath to anyone or anything.
      2. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 21 August 2021 07: 29
        -2
        Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
        Our President, swore the oath given to the USSR

        Comrade is walking along a slippery path. If you served in the SA, then you are a traitor, too. swore an oath to defend their Soviet homeland, but did not defend it. But what about those who took the oath of tsarist Russia, and then went over to the Reds (no matter for what reason: voluntarily or under duress)? And helped them to defeat the Whites. To pour the slops of contempt at them too ?!
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 21 August 2021 08: 22
          -5
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          But what about those who took the oath of tsarist Russia, and then went over to the Reds (no matter for what reason: voluntarily or under duress)?

          Before you write comments, you would have at least familiarized yourself with the basics ...
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 21 August 2021 13: 04
            0
            Quote: mat-vey
            Quote: EwgenyZ
            But what about those who took the oath of tsarist Russia, and then went over to the Reds (no matter for what reason: voluntarily or under duress)?

            Before you write comments, you would have at least familiarized yourself with the basics ...

            Well, enlighten, you are our smartest.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 25 September 2021 10: 22
              0
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              Well, enlighten, you are our smartest.

              And why is it suddenly yours? And you will "enlighten"? And then Google is available to anyone, but you began to use it? Although why, if you can carry some kind of alternative with pathos ... tell me what kind of emperor was on the throne by the time the Bolsheviks came to power? In October 1917, the Army was free from the oath of "tsarist Russia" ...
        2. Boris55
          Boris55 21 August 2021 09: 03
          +4
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          And what about those who took the oath of tsarist Russia, and then went over to the Reds (no matter for what reason:

          Before talking about the reasons, you need to understand that the army is designed to protect the state from an armed invasion from outside... Some tsarist officers, together with the Bolsheviks, stood up to defend their homeland, while others became subjects of the English queen and participated in the destruction of Russia. Subsequently, they took part in the Second World War on Hitler's side (not all).

          When the army begins to take an active part in the political life of the country, this, as a rule, leads to a civil war (for example, Ukraine).
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 21 August 2021 13: 18
            -1
            Quote: Boris55
            Some tsarist officers, together with the Bolsheviks, defended their homeland
            Are you talking about "Brestkom Mir"?

            Quote: Boris55
            while others - became subjects of the English queen and participated in the destruction of Russia.
            I don’t even remember that Kappel, or Denikin, or Drozdovsky, or Yudenich were served by "Englishwomen" and destroyed Russia. Yes, their motto "for one and indivisible" somehow testifies to the reverse ...


            Quote: Boris55
            Subsequently, they took part in the Second World War on Hitler's side (not all).

            I would say - a small part. By the way, the act of our two generals in German captivity says a lot about the quality of the "human material" of the tsarist generations and the new, Soviet ones.
        3. for
          for 21 August 2021 10: 18
          +5
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          If you served in the SA, then you are a traitor, because took the oath to defend their Soviet homeland

          And what was openly attacked by external enemies? But he, as an employee of the KGB, was obliged to protect both from external and internal enemies.
        4. HaByxoDaBHocep
          HaByxoDaBHocep 28 August 2021 14: 49
          0
          I unfortunately did not find the SA, I served from 1993 to 2016, although the soldier is still Soviet
      3. Boris55
        Boris55 21 August 2021 08: 18
        +3
        Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
        Our President, swore the oath given to the USSR

        Have you even seen her in the eyes? laughing
        What clause of the oath did he (and all of us) violate?

        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 08
          0
          Well then, it will be in place in this branch:
          "I, the one named below, promise and swear by Almighty God, before His Holy Gospel, that I want and owe His Imperial Majesty, my true and natural All-Merciful Great Sovereign Emperor [Name and patronymic], the Autocrat of the All-Russian, and His Imperial Majesty of the All-Russian Throne To the heir, faithfully and unhypocritically serve, not sparing his belly, to the last drop of blood, and all to His High Imperial Majesty the Autocracy, power and power belonging to the rights and advantages, legalized and henceforth legitimized, at the extreme understanding, power and ability, to fulfill Him. The Imperial Majesty of the state and the lands of His enemies, in body and blood, in the field and fortresses, by water and dry road, in battles, parties, sieges and assaults and in other military cases, brave and strong to put up resistance, and in everything try to speed up that to His The Imperial Majesty's faithful service and the benefit of the state can in any case concern.Majesties of interest, harm and loss, as soon as I find out about this, not only in good time to announce, but also to avert and not allow any measures to be taken away and I will tightly keep any confidentiality entrusted to me, and to the chiefs assigned to me in everything that is to the benefit and service of the State will, in the proper manner, mend obedience, and correct everything according to his conscience, and for his own gain, property, friendship and enmity against the service and oath; I will never leave the command and the banner where I belong, although in the field, wagon train or garrison, but I will follow it as long as I live, and in everything I will behave and act like this, as honest, faithful, obedient, brave and efficient ( officer or soldier). In what way may the Lord God Almighty help me. In conclusion of this oath of mine, the whole words and the cross of my Savior. Amen."
          Who was the emperor there? ... Or then it was:
          "I swear by the honor of an officer (soldier) and I promise before God and my conscience to be faithful and unfailingly loyal to the Russian State as to my Fatherland. I swear to serve it to the last drop of my blood, contributing in every way to the glory and prosperity of the Russian State. I undertake to obey the Provisional Government, now heading The Russian State, until the establishment of the mode of government by the will of the people through the Constituent Assembly. I will carry out the duties entrusted to me with full exertion of strength, having in my thoughts exclusively the benefit of the state and not sparing my life for the good of the Fatherland. full obedience to them in all cases when it is required by my duty of an officer (soldier) and a citizen to the Fatherland. I swear to be an honest, conscientious, brave officer (soldier) and not break my oath because of self-interest, kinship, friendship and enmity. I make oaths overshadowing myself with the sign of the cross and others like me subscribe "
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 21 August 2021 09: 11
            0
            Quote: mat-vey
            Well then, it will be in place in this branch:

            Initially, it was said that Putin did not fulfill the oath.
            I partially answered your question with the post above (about the purpose of the army).
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 12
              0
              Quote: Boris55
              I partially answered your question with the post above (about the purpose of the army).

              I didn't have this question ... Did you answer me exactly?
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 21 August 2021 09: 18
                +1
                You have sworn in from different times. The army is always subject to political power. The meaning of the army, regardless of the internal political structure of the state and the surname of the ruler, does not change ever - the defense of the Fatherland from external threats.

                ps
                Are you trying to say that the oath is optional?
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 22
                  -2
                  I swore an oath of a specific time ..
                  Quote: Boris55
                  You have sworn in from different times. The army is always subject to political power. The meaning of the army, regardless of the political structure of the state and the surname of the ruler, does not change when - the defense of the Fatherland.

                  And you better EwgenyZ (Eugene) redirect.
                2. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 37
                  -2
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Are you trying to say that the oath is optional?

                  And where did it suddenly come from? Justify the "logic".
            2. mat-vey
              mat-vey 21 August 2021 09: 45
              -2
              Quote: Boris55
              Initially, it was said that Putin did not fulfill the oath.
              I partially answered your question with the post above (about the purpose of the army).

              Did I have a question for you or for EwgenyZ (Eugene)? There are such arrows here ... it helps a lot to understand who is answering whom or who is asking ..
        2. Cat
          Cat 21 August 2021 09: 19
          0
          I will support. The oath is a legal document, and the Russian Federation declared itself the legal successor of the USSR. So from the formal point of view, everything is clean. And with the informal and emotional, everyone decides for himself.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 21 August 2021 09: 25
            +4
            Quote: Gato
            And with the informal and emotional, everyone decides for himself.

            "... I am always ready nabout the order of the Soviet Government to defend my Motherland ... "There was only one order - to sit in the barracks and watch TV.
            1. Cat
              Cat 21 August 2021 09: 30
              +7
              There was only one order - to sit in the barracks and watch TV.

              Exactly. And literally.
              1. Wolf
                Wolf 21 August 2021 12: 07
                +2
                And the order was correct, the processes of the collapse of the USSR were laid down much earlier than the 90s. If the army intervened the USSR would have gotten a terrible civil war. One was enough in the 20th century. The army will not be able to solve the internal problem of the state in its essence, it's like trying to repair a TV with a hammer.
                The processes of inception in society - society as a river, their power can only be controlled if you clearly know their reasons and are regulated by the river KORITA and the SOURCE of the river. wink
                1. Wolf
                  Wolf 21 August 2021 12: 12
                  +2
                  Happy holiday to all officers!

                  one of the most worthy and respected professions of the world. These people by choice of profession agreed to give their lives for their people.
                  Does a certain profession require more than one person?
                2. boris epstein
                  boris epstein 21 August 2021 15: 20
                  +2
                  The Chinese army received the order and executed the order on Tian An Men Square, and there was no civil war. As a result, the state of China survived and became the world leader of the economy. China also had hard times, there were all kinds of jiaofani. But the Chinese leadership realized that the infection had to be torn out once and by the roots. And the Emergency Committee lacked determination. By the way, the State Committee on The state of emergency existed in the state structures of the USSR. He NOT ONLY HAVE THE RIGHT, but also OBLIGED to introduce a state of emergency in the country. The intestines turned out to be thin. And the KGB and Alpha were ready and waiting for the order.
                  1. Prosha
                    Prosha 21 August 2021 16: 13
                    +2
                    China took the lead not thanks to the Chinese officers, it is not necessary to confuse "sinful and sacred", but thanks to US assistance and the transfer of all non-"clean" industries to the territory of third countries with cheap labor.
                    And we in Russia have our heroes, from whom one can and should take an example of serving the Motherland and it is good that everything is going along an evolutionary path. This is the healthy and most correct development of society. The main thing here is not to wear it around!
                    1. boris epstein
                      boris epstein 21 August 2021 16: 35
                      +2
                      "China took the lead not thanks to the Chinese officers, it is not necessary to confuse" sinful and sacred ", but thanks to US assistance and the transfer of all non-" clean "industries to the territory of third countries with cheap labor."
                      I didn't talk about Chinese officers at all; it was about the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party. It was she who gave the order to the army, and the army carried it out. If it were not for Tian An Men, then China and still meekly riveted semi-finished products and car kits for the West.
                      I do not argue about my SOVIET and RUSSIAN heroes.
                      "... it's good that everything goes along an evolutionary path."
                      But evolution sometimes does the same freaks and gives birth to such monsters that God forbid. Generals Barkashov, Dudayev and Colonel Maskhadov were also officers. How many officers have joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine? After 1991, Russia got so skidded. Or do you want "to the holy 90s"?
                      1. Prosha
                        Prosha 21 August 2021 16: 41
                        +2
                        So I meant that evolution should be without hesitation) I'm glad that we understood each other. And this garbage (Dudayev and Colonel Maskhadov and others like them) ceased to be called officers when they gave the order to shoot at their own ...
                        Actually, I am against new holidays, but I agree with that!) Health!
                      2. boris epstein
                        boris epstein 21 August 2021 16: 42
                        +2
                        Have a nice one you too!
                      3. Wolf
                        Wolf 21 August 2021 17: 40
                        +1
                        And I am not sick, but we speak the truth, if you do not like it, I feel sorry for you.
                  2. Wolf
                    Wolf 21 August 2021 17: 38
                    +1
                    Boris and in China there was a national REPUBLIC and a republican militia, and a republican KP? What was Alfa able to do? Georgia, Armenia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc. Nationalism came from the CP of the republics, these ludi at the top of the CP were ready to sew up their power at the cost of civil wars. The situation in China and the USSR was completely different !!! The Communist Party of the USSR managed to make three nations of Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russes by one people! , but think about what you did to the Uzbeks, the Kazakhs, the Georgians, etc.
                    All these republics would simultaneously attack the army and a hundred would be the result? wink
                3. Essex62
                  Essex62 21 August 2021 19: 40
                  0
                  It was the army that demolished the thousand-year-old power of the zhrebetniks in 1917. And it was she who, in accordance with the Oath, was obliged to defend the Constitution, which clearly stated that the RSFSR was a Soviet, socialist system. So what, GW, but how else to stop the restoration of capitalism? And it was, by the way, short but no less bloody.
        3. Essex62
          Essex62 21 August 2021 19: 34
          0
          The Soviet government, represented by the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation, called for defense, you ignored this, thereby breaking the oath. It doesn't really matter that the separatists broke away and the Union did not formally exist. A Soviet soldier and officer swore an oath to defend socialism, once he swore an oath to defend the Constitution.
          1. Wolf
            Wolf 21 August 2021 23: 12
            -1
            It was the army that demolished the thousand-year rule of the zhrebetniks in 1917

            1.000 years of backbone power ???
            Are you sure that Svyatoslav, Nevsky, Ivan, etc. were the backbones?
            In addition, the civil war was 1917. The civil war was in essence SUICIDE OF THE PEOPLE !!!
            You can write a lot about the events of 1917-1922 BUT IT WAS SUCH A TRAGEDY OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE THAT NO WWI THREADS CANNOT BE COMPARED WITH IT!
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 22 August 2021 10: 55
              +1
              I’ll tell you more, they were not only backsliders, but also, according to modern concepts, bandyuki-reciters. By force, taking away from the peasant the product of his labor. And their whole function, doubtfully positive, is to protect this worker from the same bandits. Roofed.
              The GV is the tragedy of the People, no doubt, but the change of the formation from the disgusting feudal-bourgeois one to the power of the toiler cannot do without such an excess. The backsliders do not give up the loot and do not want to give up their privileges.
    2. Revival
      Revival 21 August 2021 15: 05
      +2
      Are you talking about: while I am president, the retirement age will not be raised ...?
  6. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 21 August 2021 06: 06
    +7
    Happy holiday to all fellow officers!
    1. Silver bullet
      Silver bullet 21 August 2021 08: 21
      +4
      Happy holiday to everyone who was, is and will be an officer of the SA and the Russian Army!
  7. Migam
    Migam 21 August 2021 06: 47
    -4
    I have the honor! soldier For the officers of Russia! drinks (third toast without clinking glasses and silently)
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 August 2021 09: 59
      +1
      Quote: Migam
      I have the honor! For the officers of Russia! (third toast without clinking glasses and silently)

      Are you an officer yourself or what?
      1. Migam
        Migam 21 August 2021 11: 26
        -6
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Migam
        I have the honor! For the officers of Russia! (third toast without clinking glasses and silently)

        Are you an officer yourself or what?

        Or like .., but in my heart I have the honor !!! soldier
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 August 2021 07: 30
    0
    "Gentlemen, officers, along tight nerves, I sing this song with chords of faith.
    Those who, having thrown their careers, not sparing their belly, substitute their breasts for their Russia. "
    O. Gazmanov.

    Happy Comrade Officers! For those who ONLY took the Oath of allegiance to their homeland! drinks Health, happiness, prosperity !!! soldier
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 21 August 2021 11: 38
      +2
      never doubted! there are enough Jews!

      Once again, with the Holiday, comrades Officers !!! soldier
  9. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 21 August 2021 07: 37
    +2
    Those who are in the ranks and veterans with Officer's Day !!!
    It was and is.
  10. smihko
    smihko 21 August 2021 07: 59
    +3
    Happy Holidays to all officers !!!
  11. Zhan
    Zhan 21 August 2021 09: 04
    +3
    soldier: Comrades officers, let all the trolls go to hell! But real officers cannot be smeared with ink and cannot be erased. Therefore, all happy holidays, many years to us, well, as it should be ... drinks We will not be many, but not enough. Isn't it time for us to go! drinks

    As for the date itself - August 21, it was not chosen by chance. The officers celebrate their professional holiday just on the eve of the Day of the State Flag of the Russian Federation - a symbol of the Fatherland, for which these brave people are ready to sacrifice their lives.

    And here I do not agree, we must survive and win. Better to sacrifice the lives of our enemies.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 21 August 2021 19: 54
      +2
      What should I do? I consider the Red Banner, sickle and hammer, to be mine. Partisans or a bullet in the temple?
      Comrades, they are, only in the form of address, while the fighters are playing with braces, but in fact they are the Lord. And my great-grandfathers and grandfathers fought to the death with the gentlemen.
      1. Zhan
        Zhan 21 August 2021 20: 41
        -1
        Quote: Essex62
        What should I do? I consider the Red Banner, sickle and hammer, to be mine. Partisans or a bullet in the temple?
        Comrades, they are, only in the form of address, while the fighters are playing with braces, but in fact they are the Lord. And my great-grandfathers and grandfathers fought to the death with the gentlemen.

        drinks Whatever flags change, whatever hymns are sung, we have one fatherland. And the title was given to us for a reason, no matter what the sign. Everywhere and always there were worthy people.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 22 August 2021 11: 03
          +1
          We have one, and the bags with the enemy's money sometimes have several. By the type where the Motherland is sweeter there, and they rule the Fatherland, according to their own understanding. And me, from their taxiing, when the country prowls along the course, all the time it substitutes the board to the wave, pulls poison.
  12. Migam
    Migam 21 August 2021 09: 21
    -3
    Here I look at the beginning of the evil spirits, but this is normal .. They will envy our fighting spirit and the Honor of a Russian officer! soldier
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 21 August 2021 11: 33
      +1
      Migam
      Today, 09: 21
      -1
      Here I look at the beginning of the evil spirits, but this is normal .. They will envy our fighting spirit and the Honor of a Russian officer! soldier
      This impurity leaked out, but apart from the minuses, on the sly, they are not capable of more! Well, okay - let's count!
      1. Migam
        Migam 21 August 2021 11: 41
        -1
        Quote: aszzz888
        Migam
        Today, 09: 21
        -1
        Here I look at the beginning of the evil spirits, but this is normal .. They will envy our fighting spirit and the Honor of a Russian officer! soldier
        This impurity leaked out, but apart from the minuses, on the sly, they are not capable of more! Well, okay - let's count!

        While so ... Here we ourselves have to get together .. And then all and sundry spread rot on us! Young people need to be supported here ... Otherwise, the devils will give them a drink! soldier
        PS I'm for this and the devil is not our brother.
        That's how we live ..
        This is the main thing !!! Generations of grandfathers and great-grandfathers .. soldier

        Well democracies, do you have such ancestors?
      2. Final
        Final 21 August 2021 11: 45
        +1
        Corrected as much as I could))

        Happy Holidays, Comrades Officers !!! soldier
        1. Migam
          Migam 21 August 2021 12: 40
          -5
          Quote: Final
          Corrected as much as I could))

          Happy Holidays, Comrades Officers !!! soldier

          Honor of Russia, we will not disgrace .. And the devil is not our brother! Everything remained as before in Russia!
          Whatever power is .. hi
  13. ccsr
    ccsr 21 August 2021 10: 26
    0
    People without noble status began to receive a prestigious title only at the end of the XNUMXth century.

    This is not entirely true, because they began to assign officers' ranks to the lower ranks much earlier, according to the biography of A.I. Denikin:
    Father, Ivan Efimovich Denikin (1807-1885), came from the serfs of the Saratov province. The landowner gave the young father Denikin to the recruits. After 22 years of military service, he was able to curry favor with the officer, then made a military career and retired in 1869 with the rank of major. As a result, he served in the army for 35 years, participated in the Hungarian, Crimean and Polish campaigns [10].

    Based on this, Denikin's father received an officer's rank in the first half of the nineteenth century.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 21 August 2021 19: 59
      0
      Rave. Serfs? A descendant of a general? This is where you dug this? Unless it was possible to "correct" the origin during the service.
      Wikipedia, this is another truthful source.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 22 August 2021 14: 23
        -1
        Quote: Essex62
        Rave. Serfs? A descendant of a general? This is where you dug this?

        Explore at your leisure - Anton Denikin. "The path of a Russian officer."
        "Father, Ivan Efimovich Denikin, was born 5 years before the Napoleonic invasion of Russia (1807) in a serf peasant family, in the Saratov province, if my memory serves me right, in the village of Orekhovka ..."
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 22 August 2021 20: 15
          0
          I studied it, I don't believe it. There is only one explanation for this, documents on the origin of Ivan Denikin, when he was awarded the first officer rank, have not survived. Or rather, a forgery was committed and it was declared of "noble" origin. Himself or the commander, it doesn't matter. It happened that the officers were knocked out of the "vile estates" (not serfs, it is excluded), legally. But so that later the descendant would become a general and the estate society would let this pass, knowing that his father was not even one of the merchants. A serf and a man, he was not, so a commodity, a soul.
          PS minus, if anything, it was not mine, it was nullified.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 22 August 2021 21: 03
            -1
            Quote: Essex62
            I studied it, I don't believe it.

            You do not believe in Denikin's memoirs, which he wrote personally - your right, I do not insist.
            Quote: Essex62
            Or rather, a forgery was committed and it was declared of "noble" origin.

            And do you have proof?
            Quote: Essex62
            A serf and a man, he was not, so a commodity, a soul.

            If you do not know about the millionaire serfs, this does not mean that they were not in the Russian Empire:
            From the end of the XNUMXth century, restrictions on the activities of serfs were lifted, and at the beginning of the XNUMXth century they were allowed to open shops, engage in trade (first retail, and then wholesale) and establish manufactures.
            The German author Adolf Zando, in his book “The State of Affairs in Russia in 1850,” wrote that many serfs in the country have “large incomes,” and among the serfs Sheremetyev, Vorontsov-Dashkov, Count Uvarov there are “a lot of manufacturers, people who owned shops, fruit shops. Many were millionaires, and to meet "a capital of one hundred thousand rubles could often be."
            https://news.rambler.ru/other/40077429/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
            This means millionaire peasants in serf Russia you call "merchant"? Well, well, it looks like you are still that connoisseur of Russian history ...
            Quote: Essex62
            PS minus, if anything, it was not mine, it was nullified.

            And what’s this all about?
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 23 August 2021 09: 16
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              The story is all very inaccurate and mostly nonsense. It is always interpreted in someone's interests. Logically speaking, the son of a serf general is not possible, in principle, in a class society. Never would be recognized as equal, pompous turkeys, "blue bloods". Memoirs, so what? It's just that your goldsmith kept silent about the forgery.
              But the dough to chop up, could well be cunning peasants. You can believe this.
              And citing the writings of some nemchura as an argument is not convincing.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 23 August 2021 18: 04
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                Quote: Essex62
                The story is all very inaccurate and mostly nonsense.

                Why then did they themselves undertake to discuss questions of history, if there is all nonsense?
                Quote: Essex62
                Never would be recognized as equal, pompous turkeys, "blue bloods".

                And Denikin was treated like an upstart - this was also not hidden by those who served in the army of the Republic of Ingushetia.
                .
                Quote: Essex62
                It's just that your goldsmith kept silent about the forgery.

                He is not mine, but a historical person that you can hate or respect, but this will not make him disappear from history.
                Quote: Essex62
                And citing the writings of some nemchura as an argument is not convincing.

                And what do you think is convincing, since for you everything in history is nonsense?
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 23 August 2021 21: 57
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                  He was not supposed to be considered an upstart but dust on his boots. The generals are a caste, the rank of generals was granted by the emperor. Do you seriously think that knowing that he is a serf, he did it against all the laws of the estate? Yes, they would gobble up the Emperor with giblets.
                  History through the prism of logic must be seen. There is a fact of the event, and then how they interpret, including the participants in the event. Even the collision of two cars is seen by all participants and witnesses in their own way, but to believe pieces of paper from a distant time, no thank you. After all, this is exactly how "science" studies this? The event and eyewitness accounts, or the stories of these "eyewitnesses", and who knows what moved them?
                  Nikita rewrote almost the entire course of the Battle of Kursk in order to emphasize his significance.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 24 August 2021 20: 59
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                    Quote: Essex62
                    Do you seriously think that knowing that he is a serf, he did it against all the laws of the estate?

                    You better start seriously studying military history at least based on the materials of this forum:
                    And by the middle of the XNUMXth century, the army is becoming more and more massive, which entails not just an increase in the number of the officer corps, but also the increasing involvement of persons in the officer corps who have no income, except for the officer's salary, which at that time was very meager ... ..
                    General of Infantry Shuvaev Dmitry Savelyevich. Minister of War from March 15, 1916 to January 3, 1917. By birth of an honorary citizen. Those. not a nobleman, but the son of a man who received only personal nobility. According to some reports, Dmitry Savelievich was the son of a soldier who rose to the rank of junior officer.
                    Of course, having become a full general, Shuvaev received hereditary nobility.
                    This I mean that many even the highest military leaders of the Russian Army were not necessarily counts, princes, landowners, the word "white bone", as Soviet propaganda tried to assure us for many years. And a peasant's son could become a general in the same way as a prince's. Of course, the commoner needed more work and effort for this.

                    https://topwar.ru/10232-znaki-razlichiya-zvaniy-russkoy-armii-xix-xx-vek.html
                    1. Essex62
                      Essex62 26 August 2021 09: 13
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                      The key here is Soviet propaganda. So, propaganda is now with the opposite sign. Under no circumstances can the rabble, in class feudalism, be promoted to generals, to officers at most. It is possible that with the increase in the army, the rotten nobility had to step on its throat. Estates' prejudices, and most importantly a sense of self-preservation, could not allow the nomination of people, not from the class, to the rank giving the opportunity to make key decisions in the troops.
                      I study military history with pleasure, incl. and on VO. Let's just say the technical side of it.
  14. Wolf
    Wolf 21 August 2021 12: 13
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    Happy holiday to all officers!

    one of the most worthy and respected professions of the world. These people by choice of profession agreed to give their lives for their people.
    Does a certain profession require more than one person?
  15. Mikhalych
    Mikhalych 21 August 2021 13: 01
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    Almost all tsarist generals and officers have changed their oaths. The tsar did not release them from the oath. This is another indirect confirmation that he did not renounce. Marked when he renounced the USSR, and released everyone from the oath. Treason is a Judas sin. Therefore, Judas lost to the Bolsheviks.
    I hope that modern Russian officers will not change their oaths.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 21 August 2021 20: 01
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      Judas not to the Bolsheviks but to the Russian peasant lost
      Tired of him, that on his neck, a thousand years, sit and spur.
  16. YOUR.
    YOUR. 21 August 2021 14: 36
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    Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    ***
    Officers, officers, your heart is at gunpoint
    For Russia and freedom to the end
    Officers, Russians, may freedom shine
    Making hearts sound in unison ...
    ***

    You shouldn't have cited this as an example.
    Gazmanov wrote the first drafts of the text during the 1991 coup, which originally included lines about the White House and those killed under the tracks of tanks.
    Conjuration, however ...
  17. Oleg Plenkin
    Oleg Plenkin 21 August 2021 14: 44
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    With all due respect to the historical contribution of the command staff, in the role of defenders of the Russian state, I have always thought about the following questions: "-Officers, is this a pure" function "for any power, or a full-fledged part of the" substance "of society? Can they be a full-fledged, subject part of this society, or are they only capable of performing "assigned tasks" and, directly, commanding subordinates? Are they themselves able to decide the historical destinies and directions of development of states, or do they still need people who are able to study, analyze, develop and, most importantly , substantiate promising political and economic theories of social development, which they will then defend? This means that they have the right to form, for junior and senior officers, the strategic goals of the development of society and, necessary, to achieve these goals, the system of state power, its structures, mechanisms and, operational and tactical tasks arising during the movement towards these goals? management "class" in the circumstances of scientific and industrial development and constant revolutions in productive forces, industrial, scientific and technical, information technology, etc.? When the economy, its logical requirements, cause the emergence of new, social strata that were absent in traditional societies, i.e. the industrial proletariat, the skilled working class, hired technical specialists and employees with a petty-bourgeois consciousness, causing more and more influence in society and having their own class interests? How and what influence do the legal relations of various institutions of property and the state have on the moral character of the officer, and his ethical choice, in the circumstances of internal conflicts and civil wars? How, in general, do officers imagine the PUBLIC GOOD and social ideals in the XNUMXst century? Does an officer have the right to show his civic position and participate in politics, and not just follow the orders of aristocratic families, the Bolshevik party, oligarchic clans or political classes? Who should they be, not only functionally, but also historically? Universal "watchdogs" in the hands of any powerful Subject or "perfect weapons", after all, serving a producing society, and not thieves, swindlers and parasites? All these questions require substantiating answers, because each military specialist will have to make his own choice, at certain stages of life, which cannot be replaced by an oath to various "authorities" (...

    PS Congratulations to all OFFICERS on their professional holiday! I wish you courage, victories and good luck! You, in essence, are the main guarantor of the SOCIAL state system for the territory, productive forces and the preservation of the thousand-year historical subjectivity of the country. I wish you to remember this always.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 21 August 2021 20: 05
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      I would put a thousand pluses. Behold at the root. hi
  18. Prosha
    Prosha 21 August 2021 16: 03
    +2
    Comrades officers! Happy Holidays! Health and strength to serve the Motherland! Happiness and tranquility to your families!
  19. Lisa90
    Lisa90 21 August 2021 20: 43
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    For 13 years of service, I have only seen officers in the FSB. Well, a few in aviation. The rest are double basses in officer's uniform.
    1. Serg serg
      Serg serg 22 August 2021 00: 30
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      He served a little and apparently behind the stove. An officer is an exclusively military rank. The rest of the "employees" and "employees" of the authorities ..
      Go read and learn.
  20. Serg serg
    Serg serg 22 August 2021 00: 29
    +1
    Today this title is held by representatives of the command staff of all power structures.

    By the way, this is not true.
    Apparently, the current laws were written by someone really smart.
    "Officer" is exclusively a military rank. And this is enshrined in the law.
    Try to search for the word "officer" in the police law. You will not find it. All the cops and so on. - Employees!!!! bodies of internal affairs.
    Policemen, prosecutors, FSSP, customs are not officers !!!