Polish Central Asia Specialist: Taliban conquered Afghanistan not with weapons, but with intelligence

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Mid-August 2021 will enter history as a period of power change in Afghanistan. The pro-American government was unable to keep the country's capital Kabul and other major cities in the country. President Ashraf Ghani fled the country. As a result, the Taliban (* banned in the Russian Federation as a terrorist organization) occupied the capital with little or no fighting.

The world media assess this as a "blitzkrieg". However, Polish historian Dr. Mariusz Marszewski, senior specialist in the Center for Eastern Studies group on the Caucasus and Central Asia, believes this is an exaggeration.



As Marshevsky notes, the Taliban * did not conquer Afghanistan weapons, but the mind. The central government had much more weapons and strength than the Taliban. Kabul had a fairly large regular army, police and security forces.

All these structures were nurtured by the United States and NATO for twenty years, abundantly financed, and trained by American instructors. The Taliban, of course, lost significantly both in numbers and in armament. In fact, they remained a guerrilla group.

But the movement embarked on a campaign to bribe government officials, and at a fairly high level. As a result, many important figures in the Afghan government went over to the side of the Taliban and in fact did not offer them adequate resistance. In addition, the Taliban launched an information campaign. They argued that without American aid, the central government would not be able to contain the Taliban's onslaught. As a result, even many representatives of the authorities believed in it, including both government officials and military leaders.

All this took place against the backdrop of the campaign launched by US President Joe Biden to withdraw American troops from Afghanistan. As noted by the Polish analyst, the United States itself faced a deep internal crisis due to a number of factors. Among them are the coronavirus pandemic with its economic consequences, and the trade war with China, and the destabilization of the domestic political situation with the unrest of the African American population and supporters of former President Donald Trump.

As a result, Washington came to the conclusion that maintaining an army of many thousands in Afghanistan, and at the same time financing a "junior partner" in the person of Kabul, is a very costly and generally not a particularly justified undertaking. After twenty years of presence, it was decided to withdraw American troops from the country.

The authorities of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan were unable to maintain the situation that existed until August 2021. They did not have an ideology, a clear vision of the further development of Afghanistan. The Taliban, unlike their opponents, have learned from their own mistakes for twenty years. Today we see very different Taliban than those that captured Kabul in the 1990s. Of course, it is possible, and even most likely, it is just a mask, but sometimes it is necessary to use it in order to achieve the set goal.

Now the Taliban are making some concessions: they promise that they will not discriminate against ethnic minorities, guarantee the protection of women's rights, and try to prevent violence. All these actions indicate that this time the Taliban wants to gain a foothold in Kabul, having achieved, if not the recognition of the “world community,” then at least neutrality on its part.
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  1. +3
    18 August 2021 15: 49
    Polish specialist in Central Asia
    And there are such in nature? But what for the Poles in Central Asia? They are preparing expansion in any way. laughing
    1. +3
      18 August 2021 15: 52
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      Polish specialist in Central Asia
      And there are such in nature?

      There is! The same as the Croatian ... Yes

      In these last days, we can paraphrase our L. Filatov:

      "In the morning I smear a sandwich -
      Immediately thought: what about the people?
      And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
      And compote does not pour into your mouth!

      I will stand at the window at night.
      And stand all night without sleep
      I'm all worried about Afghanistan
      How is she, poor woman? "
      1. +2
        18 August 2021 16: 15
        He divides the people into non-people
        And to the people literally
        Who is not the people - not that
        But he's ok in the highest sense

        And who the people are - not that the people
        But he's the people expression
        What you won't indicate for sure - here are the people
        But you will say for sure - there are people. And the point

        (Prigov)
    2. +1
      18 August 2021 16: 04
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      And there are such in nature? Only what for the Poles in Central Asia?

      Both in Iraq and in Afghanistan, the Poles helped their "partners" to the best of their ability, so the experts could well have spontaneous generation. )))
      1. 0
        18 August 2021 16: 05
        By cell division or through a test tube?
        1. +1
          18 August 2021 16: 09
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          By cell division or through a test tube?

          Spontaneous generation is like mice, made of grain and dirty laundry. laughing laughing This theory was quite popular in the 16th century. laughing
        2. +2
          18 August 2021 17: 05
          The US special services are hiring cheap personnel.
          Outsourcing is like that. An economical option. Why not? wink
          1. +2
            18 August 2021 17: 06
            The miser pays twice, but .... always pays.
            1. +1
              18 August 2021 17: 12
              And who is easy now. )))
    3. -3
      18 August 2021 17: 39
      What kind of expansion is there? Here, obviously, in the mossy brains, in the course of evolution (according to Darwin's theory), STATE thoughts begin to BEGIN: IF YOU HAVE DID THIS WITH THEM - HOW TO US? What does Poland have: oil? gas? poppy straw? It's time to think about how to make a living, and not suck ...
      1. +1
        18 August 2021 17: 42
        .poppy straw?

        On the subject of poppy straw, the question is open. laughing

        ... It's time to think about how to make a living, and not suck ...

        Maybe this is an option for them.
    4. 0
      18 August 2021 22: 36
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      But what for the Poles in Central Asia?

      ========
      So the Poles - they are like that .... "Polska from mozha - to mozha"! (In the sense - from the Baltic - to the Black Sea) ..... True, Crimea somehow" does not fit [i] [/ i] "... Maybe that's why they rage .....
    5. -1
      19 August 2021 02: 01
      And there are such in nature? But what for the Poles in Central Asia? They are preparing expansion in any way.

      It is said: "Polish historian". And this is like a" British scientist "
    6. 0
      21 August 2021 11: 32
      Well, what about - Polska from Mozha to Mozha. True, it did not work out with Black - we must try in the direction of Arabia.
  2. +3
    18 August 2021 15: 52
    Polish Central Asia Specialist: Taliban conquered Afghanistan not with weapons, but with intelligence
    You can say more, WITH THE HEART!
    People, the majority accepted and supported, this is so.
    What exactly drove them ... I do not understand, well, we live in the wrong place and in the wrong way, it is difficult for us to understand them.
    1. +2
      18 August 2021 17: 07
      Quote: rocket757
      People, the majority accepted and supported, this is so.

      The sun is still high ...

      Quote: rocket757
      What exactly drove them ... I don't understand

      So while no one understands ... Let's see how everything will be ... hi
    2. +2
      18 August 2021 17: 09
      Quote: rocket757
      People, the majority accepted and supported, this is so.
      What exactly drove them ... I do not understand, well, we live in the wrong place and in the wrong way, it is difficult for us to understand them.

      Just as it is impossible to understand the Germans in 1933 who supported the "Bavarian corporal", but the people believed him and followed him. "God works in mysterious ways".
      1. +3
        18 August 2021 17: 14
        It's just clear there. He became the Reich Chancellor of Europe.
        He didn't have to attack the USSR and he would have lived ...
        1. 0
          18 August 2021 17: 42
          Quote: Alex777
          He didn't have to attack the USSR and he would have lived ...

          So I think all the time how and who made him do it, well, he was not complete. Somewhere he entered for a ruble, but he was not given an exit.
          1. +1
            18 August 2021 17: 44
            The creator has deprived of his brains. And the Britons misinformed.
            He decided Britain was strong and went for resources.
            And Bismarck warned all Germans for a long time - don't!
          2. -1
            19 August 2021 01: 57
            So I think all the time how and who made him do it, well, he was not complete. Somewhere he entered for a ruble, but he was not given an exit.

            Also a riddle! Hess flew to England, he was promised there with three boxes of support and eternal friendship. And when I wanted to tell about it, I suddenly hanged myself.
            1. 0
              19 August 2021 08: 27
              Quote: alch3mist
              Also a riddle! Hess flew to England, he was promised there with three boxes of support and eternal friendship. And when I wanted to tell about it, I suddenly hanged myself.

              I read the memoirs of Adjutant Guderian, where he writes that one Gauleiter asked Hitler when he decided to launch an attack on Russia, he replied - "Exactly four weeks before June 22", and this makes you think. We all know what and when there was a plan of attack, and there was a plan of attack on India, Britain and others, but they were not carried out. And here ? and exactly on May 22?
    3. +3
      18 August 2021 18: 53
      Quote: rocket757
      You can say more, WITH THE HEART!

      The mass of options.
      But every real Pole knows that the Taliban won solely by ambition. laughing
      1. +1
        18 August 2021 18: 55
        Ha, ha, the ambition "often helped" the Poles, that's for sure.
  3. +3
    18 August 2021 15: 55
    Apparently, they realized that it would not work to train a fighting army and abandoned this business. They will continue to experiment with the Ukrainians. Those are kind of white, although Slavs, therefore, from the point of view of the Americans, they should better succumb to training.
    1. +3
      18 August 2021 16: 11
      Those are kind of white

      Yes, Pashtuns are also not very black. Another shave - you can tell a hell of a horseradish from a Slav, at least from a southern one .. And in general - they are still Arya, whatever one may say.
      1. -1
        18 August 2021 16: 25
        Quote: paul3390
        Those are kind of white

        Yes, Pashtuns are also not very black. Another shave - you can tell a hell of a horseradish from a Slav, at least from a southern one .. And in general - they are still Arya, whatever one may say.

        But with the Ukrainians, they are clearly better at it. They bring a stick. Stand, sit, lie, let the paw perform, squealing enthusiastically. It remains only to teach "face" and not to be afraid of firing, and this is the most difficult thing.
        1. -2
          18 August 2021 16: 33
          The main thing is to teach you to use the toilet and wean you off writing on other subjects.
          1. -1
            18 August 2021 16: 39
            Quote: paul3390
            to teach to the toilet and to wean on other subjects to write.

            Alas, heavy Sumerian inheritance, the burden of the diggers of the seas. Their history is too long, all the same 150k years, there is no detail, like hygiene.
        2. +1
          18 August 2021 17: 44
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          It remains only to teach "face" and not to be afraid of firing, and this is the most difficult thing.

          So they learned, since the whole of Afghanistan was captured in a couple of weeks.
  4. +4
    18 August 2021 16: 11
    A bit of pretty black humor on the Taliban.


    1. +2
      18 August 2021 16: 22
      "Charlie Hebdo" must mega-epic voyage on this topic.
    2. +2
      18 August 2021 18: 05
      Quote: Welldone
      A bit of pretty black humor on the Taliban.

      )))))))))))))) there is a lot of it

      picture from infovars alex jones
  5. -2
    18 August 2021 16: 11
    licked - so licked ...
  6. -4
    18 August 2021 16: 21
    Polish Central Asia Specialist: Taliban conquered Afghanistan not with weapons, but with intelligence

    - Yes, there was no special mind there ...
    - And there was an ordinary "Island of Dr. Moreau" (HG Wells), where the Americans imagined themselves to be this Dr. Moreau ... and tried to mold civilized puppets out of Afghans ... - how good is it for them with the same Poles, Balts, Ukraine, etc. ...
    - Well, everything for them ended like ... like ... like in the novel "The Island of Dr. Moreau" ... - That's all ... - And what were the Americans hoping for ???
    - The East is a vile business (and nothing is subtle) and always requires a dictatorship and a very tough and very cruel centralized power ... - Eastern despotism - a'la Saddam Hussein, Ayatollah Khomeini; Muammar Gaddafi; Yes, the same Erdogan and so on ... - And if these satraps are removed from power; then chaos begins, which in the end ... - ends with the coming to power of the same satraps or their clique ... - And the Americans have been building in Afghanistan for 20 years, it is not clear what ... - well, they were "completed" ...
    But the movement embarked on a campaign to bribe government officials, and at a fairly high level. As a result, many important figures in the Afghan government went over to the side of the Taliban and in fact did not offer them adequate resistance. In addition, the Taliban launched an information campaign.

    - Ha., But where did they get the means for bribery ??? - They themselves were "supported" by someone ... - they were financed and armed by someone (this was after the Americans themselves stopped doing it) ... - most likely by Pakistan and China (and maybe Iran had a hand - because Iran, too, did not need the Americans in Afghanistan at all) ...
    - But now for China in Afghanistan - there is simply space ... - Although this is not for long ... - China has gone too far ... - and now it can become "extreme" in Afghanistan ... - So China urgently needs to create in Afghanistan "new war" ... - to support or create and maintain opposition to the Taliban; arm it and finance ... - Otherwise, China will not be able to stay in Afghanistan ... - Yes, and the Taliban, in principle, can subsequently threaten Chinese communications (the Silk Road) and easily cut all these communications (like nightingales-robbers) and take from China's fees for using the Silk Road and all other routes along which China is going to supply its Chinese junk to Europe ... - Like this ...
    1. +2
      18 August 2021 16: 30
      Quote: gorenina91
      And the Taliban, in principle, can subsequently threaten Chinese communications (the Silk Road) and easily cut all these communications (like nightingales-robbers) and charge China for using the Silk Road and all other routes through which China is going to supply its Chinese junk to Europe ...

      China will come to an agreement, find common interests and mutually beneficial cooperation.
      1. 0
        18 August 2021 16: 50
        China will agree, find common interests and mutually beneficial cooperation

        - Ha., Of course ... - China will try to do it ... - But the Taliban is not a secular hypostasis; and religious radical functionality .... - And this "functionality" cannot build a modern constructively society-society ... - The Taliban needs constant war, cutting off heads, demonstrative executions "in the name of justice" (or even terrorist attacks), and so on. ..
        - Damn ... - well, you can't be "a little ogre" and "a little philosopher" at the same time ...
        - Of course ; if the Taliban will remain in power for some time; then it will slide to the most vicious bottom ... - production of drugs on an industrial state basis and trade in them at the same level ...; kidnapping of family members of unwanted people, a very tough terror against its population on a religious basis and a merciless savage struggle against the opposition ... - All this will cause the growth of the mass opposition movement ... - Well, and China is "right there" .. - will support the opposition - finance, arm, etc.; even if the Taliban kicked the Chinese themselves out of Afghanistan ... - Like this ... - Hahah ...
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          1. +1
            18 August 2021 19: 31
            from all this feast, such a tension of our Foreign Ministry is striking. Yes, today we will mock the Yankees, and tomorrow ... Uzbeks Tajiks are a big part of this Middle Ages ... and what they promised Lavrov they will ignore as well as the Amers ... and then our Tatars, the Bashkirs of the Caucasus, finally ... and gastrers will not go to the courtyards to sweep ....
  7. -2
    18 August 2021 16: 55
    Well, the Poles are not in danger, for this you need to have at least a little intelligence!
    1. -1
      18 August 2021 18: 01
      They have been hissing at Russia for so long that we are already used to it.
  8. +2
    18 August 2021 17: 04
    They chose the strategy of promising everything that will only calm others down, and they will hang, hang later, the only correct strategy in their situation.
  9. +6
    18 August 2021 17: 39
    The question remains unsolved.
    Where is $ 88?
  10. -1
    18 August 2021 17: 53
    "The authorities of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan were unable to maintain the situation that existed until August 2021. They did not have an ideology, a clear vision of the further development of Afghanistan. The Taliban,"
    what kind of nonsense is written? the Americans ruled and the ideology was lost when the fake elections of Ghani were held, it became finally clear that this was just a stupid occupation, and this is where the Taliban got caught up, because the Afghans are no match for Ukrainian rags and have fought the occupation for centuries and will fight
  11. 0
    18 August 2021 18: 57
    Polish Central Asia Specialist: Taliban conquered Afghanistan not with weapons, but with intelligence
    fool
    The States themselves faced a deep internal crisis due to a number of factors. Among them are the coronavirus pandemic with its economic consequences, and the trade war with China, and the destabilization of the domestic political situation with the unrest of the African American population and supporters of former President Donald Trump.
    Where is the mind, brother?
    they promise that they will not discriminate against national minorities, guarantee the protection of women's rights, and try to prevent violence. All these actions indicate that this time the Taliban wants to gain a foothold in Kabul, having achieved, if not the recognition of the “world community,” then at least neutrality on its part.
    Oh this .... But, this is precisely the tactic of retention, not conquest. fool The Taliban would have received Afghanistan from the United States even if they had not fired into the air but stood on the porch with an outstretched hand as a "gift" for the Russian Federation and China in 5-10 years. request
  12. -2
    18 August 2021 19: 44
    "As a result, many important figures in the Afghan government sided with the Taliban and actually did not offer them the necessary resistance. In addition, the Taliban launched an information campaign. They argued that without American help, the central government would not be able to contain the Taliban onslaught."
    Apparently, the "Polish historian" extrapolates the behavior of the Polish authorities to the behavior of the Afghan authorities. In principle, it is true. What's there, what's there rabble.
    1. 0
      19 August 2021 12: 34
      The rabble would not drive the Americans out of their country. You think haughtily and therefore you are wrong.
      1. 0
        21 August 2021 17: 52
        I called the "official authorities" of Afghanistan and their "army" a rabble. And I can only advise you to read carefully
        1. 0
          25 August 2021 12: 19
          If so, please accept my apologies, I was mistaken.
  13. 0
    19 August 2021 12: 33
    Today we see very different Taliban than the ones that captured Kabul in the 1990s. Of course, it is possible, and even most likely, it is just a mask, but sometimes it is necessary to use it in order to achieve the set goal.

    I agree with this idea 100%. These are completely different Taliban, and perhaps someone is already preparing to delete this movement from the list of terrorist organizations. The next year and a half will show how justified such a hope is.
    1. +1
      20 August 2021 11: 30
      Quote: Galleon
      Today we see very different Taliban than the ones that captured Kabul in the 1990s. Of course, it is possible, and even most likely, it is just a mask, but sometimes it is necessary to use it in order to achieve the set goal.

      I agree with this idea 100%. These are completely different Taliban, and perhaps someone is already preparing to delete this movement from the list of terrorist organizations. The next year and a half will show how justified such a hope is.


      There is a circumstance that can neither be skipped nor bypassed, the Taliban is defined as a terrorist organization by the UN Security Council. Russia also officially considers them terrorists on the basis of a UN decision. Our Foreign Ministry has already said that in order for us to exclude them from these lists, there must be a UN decision. It is clear that the United States will not let such a decision through the welfare. So the Taliban will remain terrorists for a very, very long time.

      They will be saved by rebranding, changing the name, changing the flag, creating a political party, making some changes to the political program.

      Officially, not with the Taliban, but with the new government (although this is the same Taliban), they will begin to work very closely in September.
      Now is not the time, nobody wants a confrontation with the United States. They are still fighting the Taliban. From September they will no longer be in Afghanistan, and from this they will start.
      First, under the auspices of providing humanitarian assistance, which Afghanistan really needs, but then more.
      1. 0
        20 August 2021 17: 48
        Dear Pandiurin, thank you for your deep comment on my statement. You have the rare ability to transfer much more between lines than is conveyed by the text. smile I will read your further reviews with interest and attention. hi
      2. -1
        20 August 2021 17: 53
        Of course, there is no doubt that terrorists need help ... laughing
        As well as their opponents.

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