How does it feel when the Taliban, who have the status of terrorists, announced the protection of the Russian Embassy in Kabul?

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Representatives of the Taliban movement (* a terrorist organization banned in Russia) continue to take control of administrative buildings in the capital of Afghanistan. This is happening against the backdrop of chaos at the Kabul airport. Those who have acted against the Taliban are trying to escape in imaginable and inconceivable ways. There are cases when people in despair climb onto the landing gear of an aircraft preparing to take off. It’s not worth talking about what happens to such “passengers” when the plane climbs to altitude ...

Against this background, representatives of the Taliban * announced that they had taken under protection the complex of diplomatic buildings of the Russian Federation in Kabul. According to one of the Taliban representatives, the Russian embassy is under their protection, while adding that there is no threat to Russian diplomats. It is known that, unlike Western diplomats, the Russians are not going to flee Afghanistan. For the moment they remain in their places.

Russian diplomats themselves confirm the information that the Taliban are close to the embassy and report their readiness to protect it from possible encroachments from any side.



The situation looks "entertaining". In our country, the Taliban, as you know, is recognized as a terrorist organization. In this regard, the question arises of how Russian diplomats work in Kabul, if it was the Taliban who announced the protection of the embassy? Is this not perceived as the kind of protection that operates in completely different institutions?

Recall that earlier the Taliban * at the level of an oath stated that "not a single speck of dust will fall on the heads of Russian diplomatic staff at the consulate in Mazar-i-Sharif if it resumes its work." Then Mazar-i-Sharif was still controlled by government forces. Last week he was taken by Taliban militants.

Another question arises: will Russia continue to consider the Taliban a banned terrorist group if its representatives are ready for the political process within the country and to rely on the interests of the common people? The Taliban themselves * have already appealed to Moscow and Beijing with an appeal to influence the UN Security Council in terms of lifting its terrorist status.
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    1. +10
      16 August 2021 13: 39
      Trifle, but nice.
      1. +52
        16 August 2021 13: 54
        Quote: Roma-1977
        Trifle, but nice.

        This is not a small thing. It is very serious. If the Taliban take cities and territories so easily, then we can assume that they are supported by the people. If this is true, then Russia is simply obliged to establish good relations with them. And provide all possible assistance. Not for nothing, of course.
        1. +10
          16 August 2021 14: 25
          But not for nothing, with this we traditionally have problems at the official level, usually not for nothing a few only get buns and the whole country amicably forgives billions of dollars in debts.
          1. +6
            16 August 2021 20: 31
            Debt cancellation is not an act of charity and is aimed at obtaining benefits.
            1. +4
              16 August 2021 21: 58
              And nothing remains.
              It will not work at the UN. NATO will be blocked.
              However, the UN is not obligated, the decisions are advisory in nature.
              So it is quite possible for Russia and China to cancel the terrorist status of the Taliban.
              1. 0
                17 August 2021 18: 51
                Turkey, Pakistan, Iran
                1. 0
                  17 August 2021 20: 36
                  Quote: sifgame
                  Turkey, Pakistan, Iran

                  Turkey will not cancel (NATO is)
                  Pakistan will cancel if China cancels.
                  And Iran will cancel the day after the cancellation by Russia and China
                  1. 0
                    18 August 2021 13: 30
                    Turkey is quite such a greyhound, in relation to NATO, I bet that it will cancel. Well, at least not officially recognized at the highest level.
        2. +8
          16 August 2021 14: 45
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: Roma-1977
          Trifle, but nice.

          This is not a small thing. It is very serious. If the Taliban take cities and territories so easily, then we can assume that they are supported by the people. If this is true, then Russia is simply obliged to establish good relations with them. And provide all possible assistance. Not for nothing, of course.

          The Taliban can be removed from terrorist status if they do away with heroin, end terrorist activities and establish the rule of law in Afghanistan.
          1. +16
            16 August 2021 15: 02
            1. The heroin trade is not a terrorist activity. So formally this is not the reason why the Taliban are on the list of terrorists.
            2. The Taliban, in principle, cannot stop terrorist activities. Simply because this activity, which is such from OUR or WESTERN points of view, is a kind of holy war for them.
            If some respected mullah issues a fatwa in which he says that the Russians are, of course, unfaithful, but they do not need to be touched, then in principle this may well serve as a reason for excluding them from the list, BUT it will look strange for other countries, since terrorism is like a common enemy :)
            3. The rule of law is also a question more than what a given political force considers the law. For example, I don’t believe in classical democracy of the European type and don’t believe in the priority of the Private over the General, which we now have in criminal law, for example.
            1. 0
              17 August 2021 18: 54
              The Taliban operates only within the borders of Afghanistan and promises to adhere to this position. For now, at least. He does not fight infidels all over the world like isis
          2. +5
            16 August 2021 15: 18
            Bearded (Bearded), Today, 14:45, - "...The Taliban can be removed from the status of terrorists if they do away with heroin, stop terrorist activities ... " and will not allow THIS to be engaged from the territory of Afghanistan(small personal addition)

            Enough concern and "flexibility" belay пora in the affairs of RUSSIA'S INTERESTS to be guided by pragmatism. Cleanliness for the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR and the Russian Federation, as usual ends with huge debts of "brothers", losses of OWN and OWN in the interests of "partners", incl. and at home, fool It's time not only be able to read, but also be guided by the experience of those who KNOW TO defend their interests.Henry John Temple, Lord Palmerston; since 1802, the Viscount (eng. Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount of Palmerston, October 20, 1784 - October 18, 1865) - the famous English statesman, for many years led the defense, then the foreign policy of the state "... Therefore, I argue that it is shortsighted to consider a country as an unchanging ally or eternal enemy of England. We have no permanent allies, we have no eternal enemies. Only our interests are unchanging and eternal, and our duty is to follow them. - Speech in the House of Commons March 1, 1848 hi
            1. +1
              16 August 2021 15: 32
              Quote: boni592807
              ... We have no permanent allies, we have no eternal enemies. Only our interests are immutable and eternal, and our duty is to follow them.

              Golden words, which, however, almost no one follows. More often they still "appoint" themselves "eternal enemies" ...
              Recently, the Chinese have been trying to follow this line, however, also not in full measure.
              1. +4
                16 August 2021 15: 58
                You see ... There was a huge and powerful state in the world that followed this formula completely and completely. It was called the Venetian Republic. Do you know how it ended? Venice. She lost all her wealth, her entire territory, down to the last handful of land, and did not lose her last city just because no one needed pile chicken coops in a rotten puddle. And around this wretched town there were enemies. Enemies. ENEMIES ...
        3. +5
          16 August 2021 15: 01
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          If the Taliban take cities and territories so easily, then we can assume that they are supported by the people.

          It was with ours in Afghanistan:
          _part of the armed Afghan government troops could easily go over to the side of the dushmans with all their weapons,
          _ on a joint operation of government troops and our units, it was easy to get a bullet in the back from Afghan "comrades",
          _and it happened that the head of a gang was given a military rank (for example, colonel), and he is no longer a bandit, but a man in the service, protecting the civilian population from newcomers.
          This is Asia. Betrayal, stabbing with a knife from under the grave, or dripping poison into a glass with a smile at a friendly party is in the order of things ..
          1. +3
            16 August 2021 19: 12
            And now they just need at least someone to stay and open up from the fake mission - this will be a sign to the world - that they are ready for dialogue and are already adults to represent Afghanistan. Here they really need Russia to stay, this is their ticket to the big world.
          2. -1
            17 August 2021 05: 50
            And our pilots were afraid to fly in the same group with Afghan pilots! with rare exceptions they feared their * colleagues * more than dushmans!
          3. 0
            17 August 2021 18: 57
            Didn't it happen in Europe or in our country? Yes, full of examples. The struggle for power is the same everywhere, always through the corpses of enemies, friends
        4. +1
          16 August 2021 16: 09
          I support! I would like to add, if the people are with the Taliban, then the Taliban are able to give what the United States and its puppets could not give for twenty years! Since our diplomats remain, it means that there is already an agreement with the Taliban.
        5. +1
          16 August 2021 16: 32
          and the thought. that the Taliban are pathologically cruel and the population is simply intimidated. you don't come?
          1. +2
            16 August 2021 17: 12
            No more than Christians with the Crusades, the Inquisition, the extermination of co-religionists, differing in rituals, ashes, etc., etc.
          2. +1
            16 August 2021 19: 16
            The East is a delicate matter, there and by blood everything is decided by faith, and even now by money. But the scope is strong, they seem to have been preparing for a long time and for a long time. A change of power is possible under the agreement, although everything is presented as spontaneity. Well, as always, to cut wood - chips fly, many will fall under the skating rink.
          3. 0
            18 August 2021 09: 15
            Quote: Seeker
            and the thought. that the Taliban are pathologically cruel and the population is simply intimidated. you don't come?

            The Russian Ambassador to Afghanistan in his interview refutes your idea.
        6. +1
          16 August 2021 16: 33
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          then Russia is simply obliged to establish good relations with them.

          Right. After all, the principle of diplomacy is the establishment of relations through negotiations. And what will the West say at the same time should go to the back seat - they have already thrown off their masks at the end ... hi
        7. +4
          16 August 2021 19: 27
          As promised, just as easily and will refuse. Don't forget who you are dealing with. This is east. And we are giaours for them. Deceive her sin
        8. -7
          17 August 2021 08: 39
          Russia is afraid to fart in the UN Security Council, suddenly the “partners” “do not understand” or “do not understand so well,” and you say to raise there the issue of recognizing the terrorist organization as a legitimate authority. Lavrov has already said that Russia will not take the first steps in this matter. They will look at others. Yes
        9. 0
          18 August 2021 08: 57
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          they are supported by the people. If this is true, then Russia is simply obliged to establish good relations with them.

          These "friends of the Afghan people" are not friends at all. During our stay in Afghanistan, they were fiercely ruthless to the "shuravi". And to the soldiers and civilian personnel.
          They dealt with Najibullah in a way that the medieval Inquisition did not do with heretics.
          On the Internet, I have already seen executions of women who collaborated with the American administration. Utyrki rabid.
          One benefit to us from them is that the flow of hard drugs from Afghanistan will be reduced. This is their line lately - to hang drug dealers by the ribs. But why don't they get the state drug law wrong? By the name of the Prophet ... Who will object to them in the conquered country? ..
          The fact that they themselves are guarding our diplomats is undoubtedly a plus. The question is - how long will they have such an attitude towards us ... A month, a year, four days? Even the most advanced Afghan mullah does not know the answer ...
          I always remembered what the warmed-up Islamic fanatics did with our ambassador Griboyedov in Persia.
          Well, or a very recent example - the shot Russian ambassador Karlov at the opening of a Russian photo exhibition in Ankara. And above him, a raging bastard, pointing with his finger upward, at Allah ... am
          1. 0
            18 August 2021 09: 28
            Quote: Paul Siebert
            These "friends of the Afghan people" are not friends at all

            Your trouble is that, speaking about state policy, (the Taliban, having taken power, will carry out STATE policy) draw a parallel with the actions of persons NOT state bodies.
            See the interview with the Russian ambassador to Afghanistan that he gave to Bagdasarov.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alfINNTY0r4
            1. 0
              18 August 2021 10: 06
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              See the interview with the Russian ambassador to Afghanistan that he gave to Bagdasarov.

              I watched Zhirnov's interview with Bagdasarov very carefully.
              An intelligent ambassador with undoubted experience in this country.
              Thinking in the unconditional Putin's paradigm.
              He even mentioned "socially responsible government" ...))
              The first day of the Taliban rule is called "very encouraging."
              The Taliban, he says, entered the city without weapons and kissed the land of Kabul ...
              He was tired of terrorist attacks with explosions at night during the reign of Ghani. Under the Taliban, the explosions stopped ...
              The truth does not specify that the explosions at Ghani were organized mainly by the same Taliban ...))
              I wish success and peace to our embassy. May everything be good for them!
              But you don't need to relax.
              Hitler in 1933 peacefully came to power and established an order that never dreamed of under Hindenburg.
              The Gestapo and Schütz Schanze saddled the country a little later.
              I don’t believe religious fanatics. These are not managers in Putin's understanding.
              But quite a beast. No matter how you promote yourself on the first day ... wink
      2. +6
        16 August 2021 13: 55
        Even the mention of the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) was banned in the media without a postscript of the ban.
        I wonder how suddenly the terrorists, chased by all fed channels, suddenly become well, not so evil, but white and fluffy.
        Oh, yes, the experience of a journalist in turning white into black and vice versa has been accumulated enormous, and we just have to consider the process of changing shoes in air.
        1. +20
          16 August 2021 13: 58
          Quote: Stroporez
          Oh, yes, the experience of a journalist in turning white into black and vice versa has been accumulated enormous, so it remains to consider the process of changing shoes in air.

          Ahh. So it turns out that the "journalists" are to blame for the fact that the state obliged to attribute "terrorists banned in the Russian Federation" on any piece of paper about the Taliban. It turns out that the “zhurnalyugs” imposed fines on themselves from the ILV so that life would not seem like honey. And, apparently, it is precisely the "journalists", but not the statesmen, who are initially free in who to recognize as a terrorist and who is not. That's the logic ...
          1. -15
            16 August 2021 14: 01
            Quote: Volodin
            Ahh. So it turns out that the "journalists" are to blame for the fact that the state obliged to attribute "terrorists banned in the Russian Federation" on any piece of paper about the Taliban. It turns out that the “zhurnalyugs” imposed fines on themselves from the ILV so that life would not seem like honey. That's the logic ...

            You did not understand the message of my comment, or maybe I made an inaccuracy.
            Duc clarify, I said about zhurnalyugs from fed.kanalav, about a couple of braceevs, for example.
            1. +15
              16 August 2021 14: 07
              Quote: Stroporez
              You did not understand the message of my comment, or maybe I made an inaccuracy.
              Duc clarify, I said about zhurnalyugs from fed.kanalav, about a couple of braceevs, for example.

              Perhaps I didn't understand. But the fact is that, as you yourself understand, it is not the media (not even federal channels) that determine who is to be marked with an asterisk as prohibited and who is not. There is a law on the media, and here even Skabeeva, even Vasya Pupkin - are obliged to comply with it. The state will lift the restriction - well, they will stop adding this status to the Taliban.
              Minus is not mine, if that))
              1. +10
                16 August 2021 14: 15
                Minus mine, if that. laughing
                I have such a personal dislike for the victim that I cannot eat wassat
                1. -3
                  16 August 2021 14: 33
                  Quote: AVA77
                  Minus mine, if that. laughing
                  I have such a personal dislike for the victim that I cannot eat wassat

                  Gee-gee laughing Stereotypes must be changed laughing I also understand when, when eating, and when some have a finger with spikes stuck to the minus, it is worse wassat
                  1. +1
                    16 August 2021 14: 41
                    Some have a finger with spikes stuck to the minus.
                    While I am comprehending, I don’t even know what to answer.
                    Star in shock. belay wassat
                    1. -6
                      16 August 2021 15: 48
                      Quote: AVA77
                      While I am comprehending, I don’t even know what to answer.
                      Star in shock.

                      laughing This is how I wanted to infringe on the regular miners in their rights, but they blocked in the underground and in general, Volodin started it all wassat
                      1. +1
                        16 August 2021 16: 15
                        Volodin! good to direct kipish. It seems to me that Volodin is not at all aisles. Someone got into someone else, with his crap, and quietly ogreb, and then quietly merges and Volodin is to blame?
                        1. -2
                          17 August 2021 08: 42
                          Quote: AVA77
                          Someone got into someone else, with his crap, and quietly ogreb, and then quietly merges and Volodin is to blame?

                          The invisible battle of the fighters of the invisible front wassat
              2. -6
                16 August 2021 14: 36
                Quote: Volodin
                The state will lift the restriction - well, they will stop adding this status to the Taliban.

                Withdrawal must somehow be justified, that's what I'm talking about.
                Quote: Volodin
                Minus is not mine, if that))

                But you can see whose. Share, identify and publish the villainsgood
                One has already written a confession. laughing
                1. +2
                  16 August 2021 15: 25
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Withdrawal must somehow be justified, that's what I'm talking about.

                  Justification of DT only from our side raises many questions. To justify them, a number of measures are needed, one of which will be the recognition of their "sins" in the past, the adoption of a number of measures to stabilize the situation inside the country, it is not enough to simply take power into our own hands, it is still necessary to ensure the creation of the legitimacy of this power, and of a representative to the UN it would not hurt to change either ... there is still an old regime sitting there.
                  1. +1
                    16 August 2021 19: 17
                    We will first need to amend the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation: Article 205.2 "Public calls for the implementation of terrorist activities, public justification of terrorism or propaganda of terrorism. "
                2. +2
                  16 August 2021 15: 33
                  Quote: Stroporez

                  Withdrawal must somehow be justified, that's what I'm talking about.

                  This is to whom it is necessary to make excuses? They took it off, so it is necessary, it means that it is more profitable for the country, and for those who do not understand this, then there is nothing to justify. In general, it would be very good if ours and China recognize the Taliban as the legal power first, this piston will be our "partners"! Why not admit that? - De facto, the Taliban are already in power and if you don't want to, you will have to talk with them, and the sooner we start, the better (although it seems to me that they are already intensively negotiating), and ours are ready to talk, because the ambassadors were not evacuated (did not flee).
                  1. -4
                    16 August 2021 15: 37
                    Quote: midivan
                    This is to whom it is necessary to make excuses?

                    Duc you also said that they are thugs.
                    1. -1
                      16 August 2021 16: 24
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Quote: midivan
                      This is to whom it is necessary to make excuses?

                      Duc you also said that they are thugs.

                      Time passes and everything changes, the thugs are tired of the war and want to live like humans and why not give them a chance, they are not the same cells running barefoot in the mountains, apparently the people are with them, because they realized that help from outside is so-so help in the formation of their state, everyone imposes their ideas, sweeping aside the way of life of the owners and in every possible way pushes them away from their own culture while introducing moralities alien to them.
                    2. +1
                      16 August 2021 16: 38
                      The junta was recognized by the parashenkas, but these are worse?
            2. -1
              16 August 2021 14: 57
              Quote: Stroporez
              Duc clarify, I said about zhurnalyugs from fed.kanalav, about a couple of braceevs, for example.

              For professional journalists loyal to Putin, the administrative requirements for the order of mentioning the Taliban create exactly the same problems as for the opposition, and their sympathy for the authorities is just as bad. In principle, this law does not in any way oblige the journalist to fight terrorism, but obliges his text to be littered with hackneyed stamps "prohibited in Russia." Present the journalistic articles of I. Ehrenburg in Krasnaya Zvezda in 1941, interspersed with modern cliches from Roskomnadzor. In October 41 Muscovites, seeing this in the newspapers, could decide anything.
            3. 0
              16 August 2021 19: 28
              Olga Skabeeva has a husband, Zhenya Popov. An excellent smart and decent man. You are not measuring people by that yardstick.
              1. +1
                17 August 2021 08: 38
                Quote: Serg Serg
                Olga Skabeeva has a husband, Zhenya Popov. An excellent smart and decent man. You are not measuring people by that yardstick.

                At the habalok festival, these individuals would take the "honorable" 4th place. good laughing
                1. 0
                  17 August 2021 11: 31
                  On their own people are not judged.
          2. Alf
            +1
            16 August 2021 18: 52
            Quote: Volodin
            And, apparently, it is precisely the "journalist", but not the statesmen, who are initially free in who is to be recognized as a terrorist and who is not. That's the logic ...

            Normal logic. The fact is that in Russia, for 20 years now, statesmen are never to blame for anything, someone else is always to blame. Journalists, of course, are still some representatives of the second oldest profession, but who pays them and who calls the tune ...
        2. 0
          16 August 2021 14: 21
          Quote: Stroporez
          Even the mention of the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) was banned in the media without a postscript of the ban.
          I wonder how suddenly the terrorists, chased by all fed channels, suddenly become well, not so evil, but white and fluffy.
          Oh, yes, the experience of a journalist in turning white into black and vice versa has been accumulated enormous, and we just have to consider the process of changing shoes in air.

          The Taliban was banned in Russia in 2003, then there was almost no Russia either, Putin was in power for the first year. Russia was pushed around by all and sundry. The Taliban's declaration of terrorists was dictated by the demand of the United States, Russia then had no other choice. Now the situation is different.
          1. -2
            16 August 2021 15: 35
            Quote: Wend
            The Taliban was banned in Russia in 2003, then there was almost no Russia either, Putin was in power for the first year. Russia was pushed around by all and sundry. The Taliban's declaration of terrorists was dictated by the demand of the United States, Russia then had no other choice. Now the situation is different.

            How so? First? belay
            I was expecting such a comment from Bory under namber 55. In general, it is clear, "lifting from his knees", "subject subject", intrigues of the West, hpp, etc. In your opinion, it turns out that all foreign policy was dictated by the West? And tell me until what year did this happen? Well, to know when everything was bad and when it became good.
            1. 0
              16 August 2021 16: 33
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: Wend
              The Taliban was banned in Russia in 2003, then there was almost no Russia either, Putin was in power for the first year. Russia was pushed around by all and sundry. The Taliban's declaration of terrorists was dictated by the demand of the United States, Russia then had no other choice. Now the situation is different.

              How so? First? belay
              I was expecting such a comment from Bory under namber 55. In general, it is clear, "lifting from his knees", "subject subject", intrigues of the West, hpp, etc. In your opinion, it turns out that all foreign policy was dictated by the West? And tell me until what year did this happen? Well, to know when everything was bad and when it became good.

              Do you think not? Well, remember if you lived what was happening in Russia since the 90s. The collapse of the economy, the collapse of the army, the war, the collapse of the USSR 92nd year, non-payment of wages, rampant crime, the constitution of the 90s imposed by the Russian Federation and the USA, etc. Russia did not pursue an independent policy, only in consultation with Western countries.
              Until what year? Yes, after the adoption of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. If we recall 2008, the conflict with Georgia, it was a trial step by itself. It was crowned with success.
              But you think too narrowly or try to flatter, dividing only into bad and good. Before it becomes really good Russia has not yet reached, but has already gone far from the state of badness, as it was in the 90s.
              1. 0
                16 August 2021 18: 01
                "Until what year? Yes, after the adoption of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation."

                Wow!
                So, in your opinion, only since July 20, we began to decide at least something ourselves !?
                Damn, it means that Crimea, too, was just graciously allowed to return all of them? ...
                1. -1
                  17 August 2021 10: 45
                  Quote: Revival
                  "Until what year? Yes, after the adoption of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation."

                  Wow!
                  So, in your opinion, only since July 20, we began to decide at least something ourselves !?
                  Damn, it means that Crimea, too, was just graciously allowed to return all of them? ...

                  Crimea was a test of maturity: representatives of parties, deputies, Russian citizens, business. As the audit showed, all Russian citizens of all strata and positions are tired of outside leadership. The result of the check is the referendum and the first amendments to the Constitution. Thanks to which we are now not afraid for important moments in our life.
            2. +1
              16 August 2021 18: 23
              Quote: Stroporez
              I was expecting such a comment from Bory under namber 55. In general, it is clear, "lifting from his knees", "subject subject", intrigues of the West, hpp, etc.

              Sorry to interfere with your dialogue, but Wend is right in many ways.
              Quote: Stroporez
              In your opinion, it turns out that all foreign policy was dictated by the West?
              Not all of it, of course, but almost all, or rather, we did not have a clear foreign policy at all, and Russia followed the path of refusing to defend its national interests.
              Quote: Stroporez
              And tell me until what year did this happen? Well, to know when everything was bad and when it became good.

              If very briefly, then in fact, before Putin's Munich speech, when he suggested from the rostrum that the West "befriend", taking into account the interests of Russia and voiced a proposal to expand economic cooperation in the format from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Then the mattresses realized that the rapprochement between Europe and Russia would allow them to pursue a more independent policy and strengthen "to the detriment" of the United States and began to pursue a policy of defaming Russia and whipping up anti-Russian sentiments in Europe, simultaneously imposing sanctions on us under any pretext, which played a significant role in that Russia began to remember that it has its own national interests and began to pursue its own foreign policy, which went beyond the framework that was determined by the "hegemon" in the 90s, changing the vector of movement from West to East. Something like this hi
              1. 0
                17 August 2021 15: 49
                Yes, what is 2007, they say that until the middle of 2020, no less
                1. +1
                  17 August 2021 17: 26
                  Quote: Revival
                  What is 2007, they say that until mid-2020, no less

                  Don't you listen to what they say, you read and analyze, since everything is in the public domain. Well, or almost everything ... Yes
          2. +2
            16 August 2021 17: 57
            "In 2003, Putin was in power for the first year."

            It's not right to drink it straight in the afternoon from Monday)
            1. +1
              17 August 2021 00: 08
              "In 2003, Putin was in power for the first year."

              It's not right to drink it straight in the afternoon from Monday)

              Yes, the person made a reservation, he meant "the first term"
              1. +1
                17 August 2021 01: 46
                No, read his comments further
        3. +2
          16 August 2021 14: 56
          Quote: Stroporez
          I wonder how suddenly the terrorists, chased by all fed channels, suddenly become well, not so evil, but white and fluffy.

          =======
          Well, let's start with the fact that they will not become "white and fluffy" (a priori), but they de facto took power in Afghanistan! And at least we will have to establish some kind of relations with this country .... This is obvious! Otherwise, there will be a complete "w ...." (in the sense - "tin", and not what you thought!) .....
          And so that the author of the article does not talk about "protection", which more resembles a "convoy in the zone", I think they are actually ready not only to PROTECT the Russian diplomatic mission, but also to protect it, if necessary! Simply because in the Russian Federation (as well as in the PRC), they are doing a very serious bet! Highly serious!
          They need to break out of international isolation! And ANY pogrom in the missions of Russia and China - for them UNDEFINITELY - a complete "kirdyk"!
          Right now they are anxious to appear before the World "white and fluffy"! The countries of the "west" are not their helpers in this .... And the story with the Soviet contingent is already in the distant past ... But the "NATO", who have been "bossing" there for the last 20 years, is a REAL enemy for them!
          But with all this, of course, you cannot trust the "unwashed bearded army": those still guys! .....
        4. +3
          16 August 2021 15: 10
          1. Well, you are poorly informed, perhaps you need to start reading journalists, because your other sources of information are deplorable. They are recognized as terrorists by the UN.
          2. Negotiations with terrorists are not prohibited, obviously revised cartoons.
          3. The process of changing shoes is quite possible. All the same, the UN recognized the Taliban as terrorists, only because they sheltered Osama bin Laden in the United States + acted as terrorist methods against the United States, which occupied their country.


          ps By the way, not only negotiations are not prohibited.
          The same EU, directly transferred money (and not to anyone, but to people who in Africa were seen in genocide, and this is all recognized by the UN.).
          Well, it is clear that this is not for terrorists, and not for terrorist activities, but for a good cause, the creation of concentration camps for refugees in Africa.
          1. 0
            17 August 2021 01: 50
            Well, in addition to this, we have a constant "that we are not negotiating with terrorists", but apparently the same constant as about the pension reform, "while I ...".
            1. 0
              17 August 2021 09: 47
              Who do you have. The Russian state is negotiating. Moreover, negotiations at various levels, after which negotiations leave a hole in the head, are also negotiations.
        5. +1
          17 August 2021 05: 44
          Quote: Stroporez
          Even the mention of the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) was banned in the media without a postscript of the ban.
          I wonder how suddenly the terrorists, chased by all fed channels, suddenly become well, not so evil, but white and fluffy.
          Oh, yes, the experience of a journalist in turning white into black and vice versa has been accumulated enormous, and we just have to consider the process of changing shoes in air.

          Russia declared them terrorists at one time due to the fact that there was cooperation with NATO on Afghanistan, Russia even provided its territory for their logistics. So in the light of recent events and the withdrawal of American and NATO troops, this cooperation came to an end, so this is just a formality There were no direct clashes between Russia and the Taliban, and if there is no further, the status of terrorists will be completely removed. There is nothing like that. For more than half of the countries of the world, the LPR militias are terrorists and any justification for their actions in these countries is threatened with jail time. .And Russia supports them.
          1. -2
            17 August 2021 15: 51
            "Russia declared them terrorists at one time due to the fact that there was cooperation with NATO on Afghanistan."

            That I did not find such a wording in the text about their prohibition
    2. +9
      16 August 2021 13: 42
      Article minus. It is clear that the Taliban (a banned organization at the time of this writing) are recognized and excluded from the banned. This is a question for the near future.
      1. +1
        16 August 2021 14: 43
        What is the minus article for? Usual informational information, of which there are already plenty on every corner - everyone is in a hurry to publish hot news on their editorials before competitors!
        The Taliban is recognized as a terrorist organization by the UN Security Council. But this, nevertheless, did not prevent the Americans from holding negotiations with their representatives in Doha, and then somewhere else, and, as everyone remembers, the same negotiations with the delegation of this forbidden movement took place in Moscow too!
        Everyone agreed to recognize them as bad guys when they behaved badly (as if it was their doing the destruction of a giant Buddha statue in Afghanistan), and now they seem to be on the path of correction - it means that they will not have long to wait for their "return" to the ranks of the normal and correct, which means good!
        1. +1
          16 August 2021 14: 50
          What is the minus article for?

          1. The article is anonymous;
          2. It’s clear that the Taliban are acting by agreement with Moscow, taking our embassy under protection, so the fabrications of the anonymous author are superfluous.
          1. 0
            16 August 2021 15: 11
            No, after all, in order to resolve any conflict situation, one must first of all look for an acceptable way out for all parties to the conflict, and not just for oneself. Whatever one may say, the Taliban have already taken control over almost the entire territory of the country and finally take power into their own hands this matter is already close. They went to this, met only with those in whom they saw those who could seriously contribute to the resolution of the protracted situation in Afghanistan!
            Just my guess:
            - with the Americans, they most likely discussed their departure;
            - We agreed with Russia not only bilateral relations (of course, in a peaceful way), but support for the new Afghanistan together with the new government at the international level!
            Look, they also visited China immediately after the talks in Moscow, where they asked to support them in the same way! India, Iran, the Arab world, together with the collective West, were left on the sidelines of their modern history!
      2. 0
        16 August 2021 18: 05
        And why is the article a minus?
        Are they not terrorists anymore?
        Or we'll change our shoes because we need to, what are the principles here?
        And I remembered ... the famous while I ...
        No questions.
      3. +1
        17 August 2021 01: 53
        And that after writing a comment, the story (actions) "reset"?
    3. 0
      16 August 2021 13: 43
      Yes, a legal incident, so to speak ... Agree, if ours promptly remove this status from the Taliban, then how they will look in the eyes of ordinary people, and on the other hand - terrorists and that's it. Then the embassy is not needed, with whom to work? request
      1. +10
        16 August 2021 13: 48
        Quote: BISMARCK94
        if ours quickly remove this status from the Taliban, then what will they look like in the eyes of ordinary people

        What kind of people? The Taliban seem to be enjoying their support.
      2. +5
        16 August 2021 13: 48
        The Taliban as a structural organization is also evolving and transforming. Therefore, it is a positive factor that prudence wins and the real leaders of this organization differ in their views on reality from the previous ones.
        1. -11
          16 August 2021 13: 56
          Quote: gridasov
          The Taliban as a structural organization is also evolving and transforming. Therefore, it is a positive factor that prudence wins and the real leaders of this organization differ in their views on reality from the previous ones.

          Well, the first one went!)))) This is to my comment above. laughing
      3. +7
        16 August 2021 14: 02

        I see no problem. Not a day goes by without the West calling us an enemy, a dictatorship, or terrorists. We will have to work with the Taliban. I think this will make it possible to hold Tashkent, Ashgabat by the scrotum more tightly, to influence Pakistan. In addition, we can make the grandiose failure and shame of the Western coalition even brighter and more unforgettable.
        1. +2
          16 August 2021 15: 33
          URAL72 (Oleg) ... We will have to work with the Taliban ...
          Especially when you have to present new credentials in Moscow.
        2. +1
          16 August 2021 18: 44
          The situation looks brighter and more grandiose in which the Russian Foreign Ministry got into a huge pile of crap, which the Americans masterfully arranged for fans of big geopolitics. Today, the Embassy of the Russian Federation is guarded by the bearded spirits of the Tal movement. In general, these are already hostages for future bargaining. Next week, when the Americans and NATO countries withdraw their diplomatic missions and civilian specialists from Afghanistan under the supervision of 6 US Marines, they together will not recognize the Tal movement as legitimate and will leave them on the list of terrorists. And here the scattered people will be the state that supports terrorist movements. And the embassy is guarded by bearded spirits ...
          1. +2
            16 August 2021 22: 40
            Quote: kuzimka
            The situation looks brighter and more grandiose in which the Russian Foreign Ministry got into a huge pile of crap, which the Americans masterfully arranged for fans of big geopolitics. Today, the Embassy of the Russian Federation is guarded by the bearded spirits of the Tal movement. In general, these are already hostages for future bargaining. Next week, when the Americans and NATO countries withdraw their diplomatic missions and civilian specialists from Afghanistan under the supervision of 6 US Marines, they together will not recognize the Tal movement as legitimate and will leave them on the list of terrorists. And here the scattered people will be the state that supports terrorist movements. And the embassy is guarded by bearded spirits ...

            Write better about the "heavenly hopak" - like a new type of hopak is promised to be shown in honor of the "independence day" of non-slaves.
      4. +1
        16 August 2021 14: 17
        I am a "common man", I am only in favor of lifting the sanctions against the Taliban. This is a serious "military-political force", it is necessary to talk to it. I repeat, it is necessary to TALK, not negotiate. And then they like to juggle here
      5. 0
        16 August 2021 14: 30
        This is not a legal incident, but a political one. feel
      6. +2
        16 August 2021 15: 15
        1. They became terrorists because Bin Laden was sheltered. Now on this point there are questions, in what role Ben was there.
        2. And they acted against the US occupier of terror. methods.

        There is no incident, it is not forbidden to negotiate with terrorists, and it is not forbidden to conduct business. It is rather forbidden to sell weapons, I don’t think that they have a lot of money, and they really need to sell them. There are many who will sell them.
      7. 0
        16 August 2021 18: 06
        "how they will look in the eyes of ordinary people."

        Quite as usual, as before
    4. -14
      16 August 2021 13: 48
      Terrorists are not born, they become. Any terrorism is always an ANSWER to something. Terminology is determined by the side of the barricades. For the Germans, Soviet partisans were also bandits and terrorists, as well as for the current Kremlin.
      1. +8
        16 August 2021 13: 53
        Quote: DocX2032
        ... Any terrorism is always an ANSWER to something ..
        Well, such a statement. Explosions in the St. Petersburg metro, blowing up an airplane in Sinai - is this the answer to what?
      2. 0
        16 August 2021 14: 19
        Do you even read the definition of "terror" in the wiki before writing nonsense
      3. Alf
        0
        16 August 2021 19: 01
        Quote: DocX2032
        Terrorists are not born, they become. Any terrorism is always an ANSWER to something. Terminology is determined by the side of the barricades.

        Nord-Ost? Budennovsk? Which side is it?
    5. +11
      16 August 2021 13: 49
      The situation only seems ridiculous. The Taliban were at the talks in Moscow, some agreements were concluded at the top. The fact that the Taliban are still considered terrorists is only the inertia of the bureaucratic machine. I think we will soon hear that the Russian Federation has taken over the functions of supporting the Afghan aircraft fleet or guarding the borders or something else.
      The Taliban are urgent, just bleeding from the nose, they need friends. Therefore, for the Russian Federation, the new government will give the maximum support regime, in exchange for international support and recognition. A year is enough for 3-4 of them, and then how lucky ...
      1. bar
        +5
        16 August 2021 13: 58
        Quote: sannyhome
        The Taliban are urgent, just bleeding from the nose, they need friends.

        Exactly. And these potential friends on the Taliban horizon have been counted once or twice. Namely China and Russia.
        1. +5
          16 August 2021 14: 08
          Quote: bar
          Namely China and Russia.

          More likely China than Russia.
          1. bar
            -1
            16 August 2021 14: 56
            China without Russia will be able to do little there, except to distribute the loot. The Chinese have no experience in Afghanistan, and the situation with the Uighurs does not add to their popularity among the Taliban. And for Russia, the experience, plus the CSTO with Tajiks and Kyrgyz, plus our former Uzbeks and Turkmens. And for China, only money, plus the Uighurs, whom they pinch.
            1. +3
              16 August 2021 15: 01
              Quote: bar
              There is no experience in Afghanistan for the Chinese

              The Chinese have experience in Pakistan, does this change the situation in the region? If 30 years ago the Taliban were on the American needle, then who is injecting them now? Have you ever wondered who is the sponsor of this theater?
              1. bar
                0
                16 August 2021 15: 10
                Now they are quite capable of injecting themselves - heroin. They raise a lot of money on trading them. And money can buy everything. At first, they ideologically burned the poppy fields. Since then, they have completely commercialized and switched to self-sufficiency. Although there is never a lot of money ...
                1. -1
                  16 August 2021 17: 57
                  Quote: bar
                  Now they are quite capable of injecting themselves - heroin. They raise a lot of money on trading them.

                  China is the main sponsor of the Afghan miracles.
                  1. +1
                    17 August 2021 09: 25
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    China is the main sponsor of the Afghan miracles.

                    For once Valera, but here I agree with you!
                2. +2
                  17 August 2021 09: 24
                  Quote: bar
                  Now they are quite capable of injecting themselves.

                  what And 5 years ago? Did they produce the same heroin in Pakistan? What are you just like a child!
                  Quote: bar
                  At first, they ideologically burned the poppy fields

                  laughing laughing laughing Oh .... I tell you again .. in this world, even a prishchik does not jump up at will! The destruction of poppy fields is a payment for the construction of the Turkmenistan-Pakistan gas pipeline, the main share of which belonged to ... belay USA! When the Taliban came to power in the mid-90s, Afghanistan began to supply 70% of the opium to the world market, but it was getting legal profits for gas transit, and at the same time, the Taliban considered it a more promising business!
                  Quote: bar
                  switched to self-sufficiency

                  Oh?
                  1. +1
                    17 August 2021 09: 52
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Oh .... I tell you again .. in this world, even a prishchik does not jump up at will!

                    Wakhan corridor, Badakhshan and Muslim Xinjiang, hydroelectric power station in Pakistani Dasu - "One Belt - One Road". And then bang and the explosion of a bus with Chinese workers in Pakistan. China has sooo big plans for Afghanistan, and this is significant: Taliban spokesman Suhail Shahin called China a friendly country: "We welcome China's assistance in the reconstruction and development of Afghanistan."
                    1. +1
                      17 August 2021 12: 05
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Suhail Shahin calls China a friendly country

                      Whoever orders a girl dances her!
        2. 0
          16 August 2021 14: 37
          Quote: bar
          Namely China and Russia.

          in the world there are 3 powers that can decide something on their own - Russia, China and the United States.
          if Russia and China support the new government of Afghanistan, then this "once or twice," is more than enough for successful development.
      2. 0
        16 August 2021 14: 09
        Quote: sannyhome
        The fact that the Taliban are still considered terrorists is only the inertia of the bureaucratic machine

        Quite right. Nothing is eternal under the Moon. Politics is a delicate matter. How long have the Kadyrovs been considered terrorists? (I have nothing against them, normal adequate people with whom I could agree). Most likely, they will do the same with the Taliban.
      3. Cat
        +1
        16 August 2021 14: 48
        The fact that the Taliban are still considered terrorists is only the inertia of the bureaucratic machine.

        May be. But, most likely, a conscious position. A kind of diplomatic trump card, because the very fact of the possibility of recognition of the Taliban not terrorists already a subject for very serious political bargaining.
      4. Alf
        0
        16 August 2021 19: 02
        Quote: sannyhome
        Taliban were in talks in Moscow,

        With whom ? Was it officially announced that they would not meet with either the President or the Foreign Minister?
    6. +9
      16 August 2021 13: 50
      "Blood from the nose" Taliban need to be recognized by at least one of the major players. Or at least neutrality. Not hostile neutrality. Therefore, they will "blow off dust particles" from anyone with whom they are not at war.
      The message of the article is not clear - does someone who poses a question in this way want the life of our diplomats to be in jeopardy?
      1. bar
        +5
        16 August 2021 14: 00
        Quote: Lesovik
        The message of the article is not clear

        And the author of this anonymous stuffing is not clear
        1. Cat
          0
          16 August 2021 14: 49
          The message of the article is not clear

          And the author of this anonymous stuffing is not clear

          "There is an opinion" (C)
        2. 0
          16 August 2021 15: 10
          Quote: bar
          Quote: Lesovik
          The message of the article is not clear

          And the author of this anonymous stuffing is not clear


          Why is it not clear? Site administration.
      2. Alf
        0
        16 August 2021 19: 05
        Quote: Lesovik
        Does anyone who puts the question in this way want the lives of our diplomats to be in jeopardy?

        A diplomat, embarking on this path, must understand, and at the academy must explain to him about this, that at any moment he can become a hostage, or even just a corpse.
    7. +2
      16 August 2021 13: 51
      The situation looks "entertaining".

      One might think there are options ... Dialogue is needed in any case, and the fact that the Taliban are still guarding the embassy, ​​and not storming it, means something. At least they hope to have a conversation with the Russian Federation or with the UN through the Russian Federation.
      In this case, it should be viewed as a kind of diplomatic victory. We have people THERE who are able to talk, discuss, decide. And the West does not. This, in turn, gives hope that the Taliban will not trample at least to the north.
      In any case, we are in a better position than the Western ... "partners".
    8. -19
      16 August 2021 13: 51
      The question would be: "Why and what are the ambassadors from the Russian Federation doing in Kabul?"
      What and with whom are they settling there?
      What will change if the Russian embassy leaves Kabul?
      In fact, such a "guard" is quite similar to "keeping the staff of the Russian Embassy hostage; they are, they are, so far, they only guess about this and the fighter should write an SMS about this to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on Smolensk ..."
      It's a shame, in general, if analysts in the Russian Federation could not predict such a RAPID rise of the Basmachi to power.
      1. +3
        16 August 2021 14: 01
        And where could analysts hesitate to ask?
      2. Mwg
        +7
        16 August 2021 14: 02
        "Why and what are the ambassadors from the Russian Federation doing in Kabul?" - because their job is to represent the interests of their state in other countries
      3. +4
        16 August 2021 14: 12
        Apparently, analysts have just foreseen. Hence the visit of the Taliban to Moscow, the embassy is guarded. Evacuation is possible, but you still have to work with the Taliban. Therefore, the evacuation will bring only financial losses and lost time, which Pakistan and China will take advantage of.
    9. sav
      +21
      16 August 2021 13: 55
      Taliban * representatives stated that they had taken under protection the complex of diplomatic buildings of the Russian Federation in Kabul

      If this is true, then the Taliban should take other embassies under protection. So the international community will more quickly recognize them as a legitimate government.
    10. +3
      16 August 2021 13: 57
      How does it feel when the Taliban, who have the status of terrorists, announced the protection of the Russian Embassy in Kabul?
      This is the EAST, that's how WORKS are done there ...
      Then, everyone has INTE: RESY, emotions aside, it's time to do the right thing, and not the way someone wants to be there, from the outside.
    11. +6
      16 August 2021 13: 58
      Our people have already said that they will recognize the new government (Taliban) until they look at their further behavior. If there is no radicalism and our interests are respected, then of course they will recognize this fact.
    12. Mwg
      +8
      16 August 2021 14: 01
      In contrast to the Russian liberals, the Taliban soundly assessed the role of the Russian Federation in the world and, in particular, in Afghanistan and the role of the United States in the same place.
    13. +7
      16 August 2021 14: 04
      How does it feel when the Taliban, who have the status of terrorists, announced the protection of the Russian Embassy in Kabul ...
      How does it feel when, under the same sauce, quite recently, the US mass media disseminated false information about an alleged agreement between the Taliban and the Russian Federation, with the aim of deliberately destroying US soldiers in Afghanistan?
      What is it like to intercept the fallen banner of FBK and other foreign agents by the site administration?
      1. 0
        16 August 2021 14: 26
        Here such lately the darkness has suddenly divorced ...
    14. -1
      16 August 2021 14: 10
      Take care means respect and fear. Although in the East it is the same thing. winked
    15. -5
      16 August 2021 14: 11
      And we will have our own Somalia at the junction of Asia ("") ... crying
    16. +2
      16 August 2021 14: 16
      I think that ours have been in contact with the Taliban for a long time. And the security arrangements are in place long before the sudden Yankigohome. Another issue is that the Taliban are not a single structure. It's just a bunch of gangs with their leaders (field commanders) who are on their own minds. The main thing now is to reach stable agreements with the Taliban, which will control the Uzbek / Tajik borders and, directly, Kabul.
    17. 0
      16 August 2021 14: 27
      The defeat of the United States is complete, even our favorite Jen Psaki went on vacation until August 22. It's a pity, it's a pity.
      1. Cat
        +4
        16 August 2021 14: 33
        our darling Jen Psaki went on vacation until August 22nd. It's a pity, it's a pity

        Not the right word ... I really wanted to hear her comments on this matter.
        And not even with the intention of neighing lol
        1. 0
          16 August 2021 14: 37
          Here I am about the same! How would she shout out under the republican journalists? This is not RT, these, if they smelled blood and slack, will tear a heating pad like a tuzik.
          1. Cat
            +2
            16 August 2021 14: 41
            they will tear a hot water bottle like a tuzik

            Gee .. I can imagine the situation in the State Department. You still have to explain such an enchanting failure. Or, according to the good old tradition, will they blame everything on the "peers"?
            1. +1
              16 August 2021 14: 48
              Or according to the good old tradition

              Already ... Brand Biden for what the world is worth. Although Obama, Trump, the State Department, and the CIA had a hand in it, in general, everyone who wanted to raise a gesheft ... read on inosmi.ru.
              Well, of course, as usual, they scold the Russian Federation and China, they say they have now contacted terrorists, etc. Their log does not bother them at all.
              1. Cat
                +1
                16 August 2021 15: 31
                Well, of course, as usual, they scold the Russian Federation and China.

                This is within normal limits, dogs bark - the wind carries. But a retaliatory move, I think, should be feared. The states screwed up, it can't be fixed. What need to do? And so that the enemy screwed up even more - that is, so that the Russian Federation also could not protect its ally. The only available candidate is Tajikistan, since Uzbeks left the CSTO back in 2012. And here there are a lot of reasons for provocations ...
            2. 0
              16 August 2021 15: 06
              I think to Russia, we leaked strategic information to them from satellites, as an option. And again sanctions.
        2. +1
          16 August 2021 17: 20
          Quote: Gato

          Not the right word ... I really wanted to hear her comments on this matter.
          And not even with the intention of neighing

          Can you listen to Psaki differently?
    18. Cat
      -1
      16 August 2021 14: 31
      took under protection the complex of diplomatic buildings

      There is a definite difference between a guard and an escort. But it is very conditional.
    19. +6
      16 August 2021 14: 32
      It should be recalled here that Russia recognized the Taliban as a terrorist movement, supporting the UN Security Council decision back in 2003 ???? But, since then, not only a lot of water has flown under the bridge, but also there have been colossal changes in relations between Russia and the West! In this regard, one should carefully listen to what was said by the special representative of the President of the Russian Federation, Director of the Second Asia Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry Zamir Kabulov.
      The Russian Foreign Ministry assessed the situation in Afghanistan. They were named a terrorist organization quite deservedly 20 years ago for the behavior that was inherent in them at that time. And the Taliban have learned this lesson perfectly. If they did not finish their education, then they will have to face great difficulties in relations not only with Russia, but with the entire world community. He also drew attention to the fact that the Taliban have repeatedly declared their refusal from terrorist acts. However, there is no talk of excluding the Taliban from the list of terrorist organizations.

      Unlike the United States and its allies, the Taliban fought ISIS from the start, rather than pandering to it.
      1. -2
        16 August 2021 14: 40
        That is, in your opinion, the Taliban are good, only because they cut off fewer heads than militants from another banned organization ?!

        1. +1
          16 August 2021 14: 58
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Oh, do you think the Taliban are good, just because they cut off fewer heads than militants from another banned organization ?!
          This is not my opinion! I gave you the words of the special representative of the President of the Russian Federation, Kabulov. No need to look for cockroaches where they are not! And if you are interested in getting answers, you yourself could ask about the original ...
          Our ambassador is in contact with a representative of the Taliban leadership. Tomorrow he will meet with the Taliban security coordinator, including our embassy. He will discuss with him all the details, how they will ensure the external protection and security of our diplomatic mission. "
          At the same time, Kabulov stressed that Russia always has a "B" plan. "But we are never in a hurry to rush from side to side, and now we are working according to plan" A "." When asked why Russia did not close the embassy in Afghanistan, Kabulov noted that this was not necessary. “Because, first of all, we know how to carefully analyze the situation, seeing what is happening. Secondly, it is not in vain that we have established contacts with the Taliban movement in the past seven years, discussed many points. We saw that yes, this force will eventually, if not fully come to power, then, in any case, will play a leading role in the future in Afghanistan.
    20. sen
      +2
      16 August 2021 14: 36
      Russia, like China, has economic interests in Afghanistan. Afghanistan possesses deposits and deposits of oil, gas, uranium, iron, copper, zinc, molybdenum, tin, beryllium, lithium, tantalum, barite, asbestos, silver, precious, semi-precious and ornamental stones.
      1. 0
        16 August 2021 15: 01
        All this will be developed by Russia in Afghanistan, and we will close the problem with drugs.
    21. 0
      16 August 2021 14: 38
      Let them prove it by deed! So far, terror is expected from this movement!
    22. -5
      16 August 2021 14: 39
      I don't care what the Taliban say there.

      The question is, why weren't our people taken out of Afghanistan ?!

      For what and for whom did our embassy remain there? Are we going to apply for visas to Russia for the Taliban ?!
      1. +2
        16 August 2021 14: 54
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        The question is, why weren't our people taken out of Afghanistan ?!

        So they knew something that we do not know. When in 92 (sort of) the Mujahideen approached the capital, they did not just organize the removal of our embassy - they also dragged out a bunch of other foreigners under fire.
    23. 0
      16 August 2021 14: 48
      Quote: carstorm 11
      And where could analysts hesitate to ask?


      Feel free to answer: analysts are NOT asking. Analysts - think, believe, predict based on available and not very materials, based on existing practice and experience. And they have to guess. And it is for this that they are appreciated. For not asking. Asking is the lot of journalists. If the analyst "asks", he will be promoted to the rank of layman.
    24. -2
      16 August 2021 14: 50
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      I don't care what the Taliban say there.

      The question is, why weren't our people taken out of Afghanistan ?!

      For what and for whom did our embassy remain there? Are we going to apply for visas to Russia for the Taliban ?!


      Visas !!!!!! Gee !!!!!!!!!!!!! rzhunimagu !!!!! tourist! look at the Kremlin and go to the mausoleum!
    25. +2
      16 August 2021 14: 52
      What a contrast between the withdrawal of Soviet troops and the departure of the Yankees! Ours left calmly and systematically, leaving behind a fully functioning state structure, which for almost three years quite successfully held back the attacks of the Mujahideen and the current situation when the "lights of democracy" rushed at full speed, throwing everything that did not fit into the suitcase, and their enemies captured the entire country in a matter of weeks.
      To be honest, one can quite confidently speak about the complete defeat of the Americans.
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    27. -5
      16 August 2021 14: 58
      Quote: MVG
      "Why and what are the ambassadors from the Russian Federation doing in Kabul?" - because their job is to represent the interests of their state in other countries


      "... in other countries" and in terrorist organizations and governments too? Do not be shy! Answer in the affirmative!
      In your opinion, it turns out that soon an embassy should be opened in ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation, which I fully support)? Or is it "other"?
    28. -5
      16 August 2021 15: 01
      Quote: URAL72
      Apparently, analysts have just foreseen. Hence the visit of the Taliban to Moscow, the embassy is guarded. Evacuation is possible, but you still have to work with the Taliban. Therefore, the evacuation will bring only financial losses and lost time, which Pakistan and China will take advantage of.


      But Israel does not negotiate with the terrorists ...
      1. +4
        16 August 2021 15: 24
        Quote: seld
        But Israel does not negotiate with the terrorists ...

        Judging by the fact that Israel has been striking the territory of Syria under government control for several years now, Israel is supporting them with the actions of its Air Force.
      2. 0
        16 August 2021 17: 45
        Seld, Duc himself came from a terrorist organization.
    29. +3
      16 August 2021 15: 03
      The Taliban's rules for a new life in Afghanistan are published online. Bacha-bazi - under the death ban:

      ✔️ Growing drugs, selling or promoting the sale of drugs, from now on will be punishable by death.

      ✔️All blood feud canceled. From now on, all disputes will go through the Islamic Sharia court, there is no longer a legitimate way to resolve disputes, except for the Sharia court.

      ✔️We invite engineers, doctors and other professionals from all over the world to rebuild Afghanistan. We guarantee them high salaries.

      ✔️ From now on, fortune telling, love spells, divination, polytheism on graves will be strictly punished.

      ✔️Bacha's corruption, violence against young guys, will be punishable by death.
      The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan will be severely punished for debauchery.

      ✔️Women are free to leave the house unaccompanied, but hijab is becoming a must!

      ✔️ The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan prohibits any activity related to interest, all debts and interest have been canceled.

      @ sashakots The Taliban's rules for a new life in Afghanistan are published on the web. Bacha-bazi - under the death ban:

      ✔️ Growing drugs, selling or promoting the sale of drugs, from now on will be punishable by death.

      ✔️All blood feud canceled. From now on, all disputes will go through the Islamic Sharia court, there is no longer a legitimate way to resolve disputes, except for the Sharia court.

      ✔️We invite engineers, doctors and other professionals from all over the world to rebuild Afghanistan. We guarantee them high salaries.

      ✔️ From now on, fortune telling, love spells, divination, polytheism on graves will be strictly punished.

      ✔️Bacha's corruption, violence against young guys, will be punishable by death.
      The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan will be severely punished for debauchery.

      ✔️Women are free to leave the house unaccompanied, but hijab is becoming a must!

      ✔️ The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan prohibits any activity related to interest, all debts and interest have been canceled.

      @sashakots
      1. -1
        16 August 2021 17: 54
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        ✔️ The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan prohibits any activity related to interest, all debts and interest have been canceled.

        This is a good point. and the whole program is not bloodthirsty.
        1. +1
          16 August 2021 18: 04
          This is the point I would have introduced to us instead of all the amendments to the constitution and it would have been 100 percent in favor !!!
          1. -1
            16 August 2021 19: 02
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            This is the point I would have introduced to us instead of all the amendments to the constitution and it would have been 100 percent in favor !!!

            I agree, good
    30. -3
      16 August 2021 15: 07
      Quote: sav
      Taliban * representatives stated that they had taken under protection the complex of diplomatic buildings of the Russian Federation in Kabul

      If this is true, then the Taliban should take other embassies under protection. So the international community will more quickly recognize them as a legitimate government.


      And fence the embassies with barbed wire. And let the current go through it. And guide the shepherd dogs around the perimeter ...
    31. -1
      16 August 2021 15: 17
      Quote: rocket757
      How does it feel when the Taliban, who have the status of terrorists, announced the protection of the Russian Embassy in Kabul?
      This is the EAST, that's how WORKS are done there ...
      Then, everyone has INTE: RESY, emotions aside, it's time to do the right thing, and not the way someone wants to be there, from the outside.


      Sensible! That is, in other words: if there, in Kabul, now your mother, father, wife, daughter, son would work at the embassy, ​​then ... How did you write there about "interests" and "emotions"?
    32. -4
      16 August 2021 15: 28
      Quote: URAL72
      Apparently, analysts have just foreseen. Hence the visit of the Taliban to Moscow, the embassy is guarded. Evacuation is possible, but you still have to work with the Taliban. Therefore, the evacuation will bring only financial losses and lost time, which Pakistan and China will take advantage of.


      But the lives of the embassy workers would have been saved, 100%!
    33. 0
      16 August 2021 15: 32
      Well, this is better than trying to kick the Afghans off the runway with precautionary fire ...
    34. +1
      16 August 2021 15: 35
      The Taliban need to get the status of a political party and hold elections in the country, to enter the legal field, so to speak.
    35. 0
      16 August 2021 15: 52
      Well, everything is simple and easy. What centers of power remain in the region besides the Anglo-Saxons? Right. RF, Turkey, China. Do the Taliban want to be sanctioned by the Russian Federation as well? I think no. And the United States and Europe will impose them on them for the most not indulge, be sure. So it turns out that there is no reason for the Taliban to quarrel with us. We are with them too. Therefore, they will guard our embassy, ​​and we will squeeze (I hope) the political sovereignty of the post-Soviet countries on the border with Afghanistan, which alone cannot fight them off.
    36. 0
      16 August 2021 16: 01
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      It is very serious.

      The embassy does not invent its own, it voices the OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE GOVERNMENT. The Foreign Ministry said the terrorists, it means to talk to them accordingly .. It will be difficult for diplomats when Moscow puts the new Afghan authorities out of the law. It was necessary to take them out! You should not expect diplomatic politeness from them! hi
    37. +1
      16 August 2021 16: 15
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      I support! I would like to add, if the people are with the Taliban, then the Taliban are able to give what the United States and its puppets could not give for twenty years! Since our diplomats remain, it means that there is already an agreement with the Taliban.

      Of course have. There are right Taliban and there are wrong sad
      Ps. Now such a new policy. And whoever they cut off is no longer important .. Well, yes, okay .. Who cares about a person if the interests of the state are at stake ... Yeah, and there was no Holocaust, it was all corrupt Jews who came up with something to deceive civilized countries. And there were no Taliban either, but there was something ... the Taliban Party, which is supported by the whole of Afghanistan. belay
      1. 0
        16 August 2021 19: 13
        Quote: Shahno
        .Yeah, and there was no Holocaust, it's all the corrupt Jews invented

        Once relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia were irreconcilable, but now relations seem to be improving. In CA, too, from time to time, someone cut off something.
    38. +3
      16 August 2021 16: 48
      What are the Talibi terrorists ?!
      Terrorist no.1 is Zion USA.
    39. 0
      16 August 2021 17: 11
      Duc the problem is not who is at the helm in Afghanistan, the problem is how many cockroaches will climb from there, and what kind of cockroaches they are.
      the Taliban are not expansionists, but they will not tolerate other lovers of interpreting the words of the prophet in their own way, and these devils, in order to avoid meeting the Taliban, will tear their claws in all directions
    40. 0
      16 August 2021 17: 31
      Looked through the comments. There are a lot of smart, decisive, knowledgeable people. There are even distant ones. That's just why we have such a Foreign Ministry ...
      And, let me remind you, for example, of the periodic even the highest contacts between the United States, which are not prohibited in Russia, and North, which is exclusively condemned by the UN. Korea.
    41. +1
      16 August 2021 17: 37
      So they remember that under the Shuravi there was more order than under the Americans.
      1. +2
        16 August 2021 18: 54
        It means that they have been tired of fighting in the mountains for more than half a century.
        The only chance for a peaceful life for them is the support of the heavyweights. That is, China and us. And both. And if they want a peaceful life, they will grab this opportunity with a stranglehold. What is happening so far.
        Are they radical? Yes. Not allies and won't they be? Undoubtedly. But neutrality is very possible.
        What is it for us, some may ask.
        Plain and simple. The Taliban are a terrorist organization. If, with our help, they remove this stigma, then we get a number of goodies:
        - the strengthening of our influence in the Muslim world (I never thought that I would write about this) and in this part of the world in particular.
        - a significant reduction in the terrorist threat on our territory from other terrorist organizations. The logic is simple: "They are, of course, incorrect, but you can conduct a dialogue with them and if you do not touch them, they will not touch us."
        - in the future, the emergence of the belt Afghanistan-Syria-Iran-Iraq-Libya, which will be anti-Western, but loyal to us. That is, a kind of shield in our underbelly and at the same time a regional counterbalance to Turkey with their ambitions, powerful enough to be so even without our intervention and our support.
        - in general, the stabilization of the region.
        - the appearance, finally, of one more buyers of our weapons.
        - reduction of drug trafficking, since religious guys treat drugs extremely badly from the word death penalty for drug trafficking.
    42. +1
      16 August 2021 17: 49
      50 shades of the Taliban are easy.
    43. 0
      16 August 2021 18: 01
      Quote: Volodin
      ... It turns out that the “zhurnalyugs” imposed fines on themselves from the ILV so that life would not seem like honey. And, apparently, it is precisely the "journalists", but not the statesmen, who are initially free in who to recognize as a terrorist and who is not. That's the logic ...

      The Taliban movement (a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation) can be excluded from the list of terrorist organizations only by decision of the UN Security Council. This was stated by the head of the second department of Asia of the Russian Foreign Ministry Zamir Kabulov.
    44. 0
      16 August 2021 19: 11
      Quote: White man
      No more than Christians with the Crusades, the Inquisition, the extermination of co-religionists, differing in rituals, ashes, etc., etc.

      The British are ready to work with the Taliban. Which is understandable.
    45. 0
      16 August 2021 23: 32
      Quote: Olkhovsky
      The Taliban are acting by agreement with Moscow, taking our embassy under protection, so the fabrications of an anonymous author are superfluous.

      The Taliban are here killing two birds with one stone - trying not to worsen relations with Russia and greatly complicates our intelligence. operations relying on the embassy and consulate, it is possible that some connections will have to be frozen, and some may be lost
    46. 0
      17 August 2021 07: 28
      In this regard, the question arises as to whether

      Who exactly - by name! - arises and who sponsors the pedaling of this issue?
    47. +1
      17 August 2021 07: 42
      Winners are not judged. I dare to assume that the embassy will remain there, and the phrase "a terrorist organization banned in Russia" will slowly sink into oblivion because it is no longer a terrorist organization but the official government of the country de facto.

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