The military-political alignment of Sudan: the lost battle for the Russian base

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The military-political alignment of Sudan: the lost battle for the Russian base
Photo: Press Service of the Black Sea fleet

"Turkey is an important and advanced country, and we need to cooperate to achieve common interests,"

- Vice President of the Government of the Sudan Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo.

As many readers of the Military Review are probably aware, the distant African Sudan has recently become of great strategic value both for the Russian Federation and for the United States of America.



We have already considered this episode of the struggle for this strategically important country earlier in the article “Desirable Sudan: a new point of confrontation between Russia and the United States". However, a lot has changed in the world since its publication - and these changes have affected Africa as well.

One of the most significant events of recent days was the official suspension of the agreement with the Russian Federation on the creation of a logistics center for the Russian Navy in Port Sudan.

“We are currently reviewing the agreement on the Russian facility, since we cannot sign agreements that harm the interests of Sudan. It was signed under the previous regime, but was not ratified by the legislature, as required by the procedure for approving international treaties. For this reason, we are revising it to clearly define the interests of the Sudan. This is what was discussed at the last negotiations with the Russian side - in the implementation of this agreement, we want to achieve maximum benefits for ourselves ",

- the statement of the Chief of the General Staff of the Sudan Mohammad Usman al-Hussein in an interview with the Blue Nile TV channel.

This unpleasant event for Russia, however, is the fruit of the political and economic activity not only of America, but also of a number of other countries.


The beginning of this stories was laid after the overthrow of the former Sudanese president-dictator Omar al-Bashir. As previously discussed in the previous article, during his reign, the country was in international isolation. However, the situation changed dramatically under the new civilian government - and Sudan suddenly became the center of a colossal international investment project.

But, however, contrary to popular belief, these events were caused not only by the desire to eliminate the fragile influence of Russia in the country. Sudan has become a place of fierce competition from a number of states desperate to get their little piece of Africa ...

And it is this topic that will become the main one in our conversation today.

Coalition of the West or all against all?


Unfortunately, many news reach the Russian information space in an extremely distorted form. Alas, the latest news from Sudan was no exception - the majority of journalists, analysts and officials (which is especially sad) in Russia are so fixated on our military base that they completely lost sight of the real strategic alignments in the country.

To an inexperienced observer, "Sudanese passions" look like a real centralized attack on Russian plans. A real flurry of events falls on those who are interested: international treaties are being concluded, meetings are being held, loud statements are made ...

Big politics, however, is never simple, understandable and entirely logical - and Sudan, alas, is no exception to the rule.

Many are probably interested in a natural question - why did this small, poor African country, in general, suddenly become so interesting for so many major political players?

Well, I will try to give you an answer to it, dear readers.

First of all, it is, of course, the geographical position of Sudan - this state is located in a strategically important region of the globe and is a logistic transshipment point of one of the greatest transport arteries of the planet - the Suez Canal. Also in the region is the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, which connects the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden of the Arabian Sea - it is one of the most important and busiest waterways in the world: up to 22 merchant ships pass through the strait annually and 000% ($ 14 trillion) of the total volume of world trade.

Secondly, no matter how paradoxical it may sound, Sudan is beneficial precisely because of its poverty. The country requires a huge amount of investment, large-scale construction, it needs personnel to carry out state activities and much, much more.

What does this mean for anyone looking to get their own piece of the Sudanese pie?

To control at least part of the country or part of the government does not require sophisticated manipulations and super-large monetary investments, which would be required in more developed countries. Sudan is very convenient - it requires, in fact, the most modest investments and will give incredible returns.

By the way, it was the second point that served as one of the main factors of the country's interest on the part of the Russian Federation, and it also became one of the key factors of Moscow's political defeat in the region.

However, first things first.

Thirdly, Sudan is one of the few neutral countries in this part of the globe - it is not strongly influenced by any side of the global geopolitical conflict, and therefore, until recently, was seen as an extremely attractive ally for many of its participants.

However, one should not be mistaken about the factor of Khartoum's conditional neutrality. In fact, it has long been the object of close scrutiny by a number of states unfriendly to the Russian Federation, one of which began to take decisive action long before Moscow, in general, thought about creating its own naval base there.

Naturally, we are talking about the Republic of Turkey.

As you know, Ankara is a kind of "contractor" of the American-British military-political bloc. One of its central tasks is to be active in those countries with which London and Washington, for one reason or another, cannot have official close ties.

Naturally, the Americans have long been interested in cooperation with Sudan - but how could it be arranged if the dictator Omar al-Bashir was in power?


And here Turkey came to the rescue.

Ankara has quite close historical ties with Khartoum, which have been successfully superimposed on common confessional preferences and economic interests. Omar al-Bashir, however, acted rather slowly, although this did not prevent the two sides from concluding a number of critical agreements, one of which concerned the construction of a large-scale Turkish naval base on the island of Suakin.

"Sudan is a friendly country for Turkey, which has long been bound by a common culture,"

- said the President of the Republic of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

By the way, Ankara has shown itself to be super effective in the negotiations - the government of al-Bashir has leased the above territories ... for 99 years.

How Turkey becomes a major player in Sudan


Facts of the current year:

1. Six cooperation agreements have been signed.

2. Turkey will help Sudan to establish the work of the Supreme Committee and joint inter-ministerial commissions in order to develop cooperation in the fields of energy and defense.

3. Turkey will help rebuild and rebuild infrastructure in Sudan.

4. Trade volumes should grow from half a billion to 2 billion.

5. Sudan will allocate 100 thousand hectares for agricultural needs of Turkey.


After that, however, Turkish successes fell under the skating rink of the revolution, which swept away the old political alignments in the country. Around the same time, Moscow began to act more or less actively - and the rates increased many times over.

Unfortunately, we have to admit that Russian relations with Khartoum can be called extremely reckless to say the least. All the risks of such a relationship were clearly not taken into account by the leadership of our country - and the situation around Sudan is causing enormous reputational damage to Russia right now.


News of a possible strengthening of Russian influence in the region has multiplied interest in Khartoum. In the Russian information space, there are a number of very curious, but, alas, false versions that it was some kind of "cunning plan" to draw the West into Sudan, but they do not stand up to criticism even without a detailed analysis of the entire situation. It is obvious that this country in any case would become one of the outposts of the NATO bloc - the question here is only how soon could this happen? Moscow's interest clearly accelerated this process - and, alas, Russia had no chance of gaining the upper hand in this party.

Why are we generally forced to view the Sudanese events through the prism of our country's defeat?

The reason for this is extremely simple - as mentioned above, Sudan has been a point of heightened interest for many years, both for Turkey and for competing monarchies of the Gulf. The unexpected activation of the United States is largely associated with Washington's desire to have an operational base for confronting Iran and China - while America in these scenarios acts as the supreme predator, which will take its toll regardless of the victory of any of its satellites.

This is the monstrous mistake that our country made when deciding to try to take our place in the Sudanese confrontation - we started a dangerous game on a foreign field without significant preparation and any serious trump cards. In turn, the opponents were fully armed and knew all the local layouts very well.

For example, TIKA, an agency affiliated with the Turkish government, has implemented 14 projects in Sudan over the past 716 years (during the reign of Omar al-Bashir) (which is especially important, most of them are in education - in fact, Ankara has carefully raised a generation pro-Turkish lobbyists).

The saddest thing in this situation is the fact that Russia did not even act as a serious competitor for any of the parties: in fact, we fell into a snake ball, in which Ankara is fighting against Cairo and Riyadh, and Washington is fighting against Beijing and Tehran. By the way, the latter, albeit nominally, are our allies, but in fact they did not support the Russian Federation in this struggle in any way - and after all, they had the resources and leverage for this: Tehran has been engaged in the development of a supply network for terrorist groups in Sudan for two decades, and China had a good investment backlog (in particular, in the field of mining).

As was natural, Russia was kicked out of this tangle - playfully, in passing and with extremely serious consequences for our foreign policy activities.

In the history of Sudan, a long-known truth emerges again and again, which, however, has not yet been qualitatively comprehended in Russian society - that we critically need a serious and working school of military anthropology, orientalism and analytics. The lack of a competent analysis of the operational and strategic situation again and again brings Russia down on various fronts of hybrid warfare (the Sudanese events more than fit into this war format). The relevant departments, as expected, are getting worse and worse with the current load - and this is a trend not only for the Russian Federation, but also for many countries of the world.

For this reason, the so-called "think tanks" are in such demand at present - independent organizations engaged in the preparation of analytical reports commissioned by the government. This is an experience that we should definitely adopt and actively use for our own purposes - otherwise, many foreign policy actions of our country may repeat the fate of Sudan.
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  1. +7
    17 August 2021 15: 25
    Well, where, to which bank of African Russia to go? You do not feed, others feed and others receive dividends.
    3. Turkey will help rebuild and rebuild infrastructure in Sudan.
    And I remembered how the Turks built throughout Russia, as in Sudan. Can Russia offer this to anyone? Or do they no longer trust "somebody" in Russia?
    1. +18
      17 August 2021 15: 33
      This has already happened. Under the USSR. Except for Algeria and Angola, all other infusions were unprofitable.
      1. 0
        26 August 2021 20: 28
        you can not steam. and Cuba was and Ethiopia. NDRY and Iraq Vietnam
    2. +13
      17 August 2021 17: 33
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      3. Turkey will help rebuild and rebuild infrastructure in Sudan.

      Yes, not the Turks rule there, but the United States.
      We must pay tribute to the efficiency of the Americans. In November 2020, Russia and Sudan sign an agreement, and already in December, the States remove the country from the list of states sponsoring terrorism and begin negotiations on the deployment of their military.
      1. -7
        17 August 2021 17: 59
        The Americans are beginning to move their bases all over the world, where they are now Sudan ... So, they shook the old days, and they will be blown away in a year, if not earlier.
        1. +15
          17 August 2021 18: 12
          Quote: Denis Shestakov
          The Americans are beginning to move their bases all over the world, where they are now Sudan ... So, they shook the old days, and they will be blown away in a year, if not earlier.

          wink The United States are still businessmen, they will be blown away in one thing, they will be puffed up in another.
          In a nutshell about Sudan, the United States:
          - will create a problem for the passage of the ships of Iran, and that, through Sudan, Hezbollah supplied weapons,
          - countering the growth of the Chinese military presence on the African continent,
          - Sudan has a lot of proven reserves of uranium, a lot of gold ...
          So, there is where the United States can be deployed, both in military and economic areas.
          1. +1
            16 October 2021 00: 18
            Scouting resources is not enough. We need to get them somehow and process them cheaply. And then the negros in their African countries always love to arrange coups. Uranium and gold are not oil that you immediately pumped into tankers and dragged away. You will not drag the ore where the thread is? It will be unprofitable.
            1. +2
              16 October 2021 07: 36
              Quote: Kedrovich
              Scouting resources is not enough. We need to get them somehow and process them cheaply. And then the negros in their African countries always love to arrange coups. Uranium and gold are not oil that you immediately pumped into tankers and dragged away. You will not drag the ore where the thread is? It will be unprofitable.

              Agree. But, preserve for yourself for better times. You can also sublease ...
        2. +2
          19 August 2021 09: 20
          They turn only in Iraq and Afghanistan ...
    3. +2
      19 August 2021 15: 16
      they have built and are building a lot. and qualitatively. and the contracts are fixed, during the sale the price does not change
  2. -8
    17 August 2021 15: 40
    Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
    Well, where, to which bank of African Russia to go? You do not feed, others feed and others receive dividends.
    3. Turkey will help rebuild and rebuild infrastructure in Sudan.
    And I remembered how the Turks built throughout Russia, as in Sudan. Can Russia offer this to anyone? Or do they no longer trust "somebody" in Russia?

    Russia can bake, like pies, nuclear power plants. And in the same Turkey. And Turkey or anyone else can offer such a thing to someone?
    1. +16
      17 August 2021 16: 18
      Russia can bake, like pies, nuclear power plants.
      Yes, let him bake, Turkey doesn’t know how to bake a nuclear power plant, but it received territory for a military base for 99 years, but Russia can, but it was thrown. It is clear that the United States is to blame.
    2. +5
      17 August 2021 17: 39
      As pies cannot, this is nonsense.
      Everything that we build outside the country is on credit.
      Yes, and Sudan does not need a nuclear power plant, and we cannot master the naval base there, and we do not need it: there is less than 1% flow to our address. First, you need to provide your country with "toilets"
      1. -8
        17 August 2021 18: 01
        I myself paid for the toilet in the apartment, and I built the toilet myself in the country, I don't expect any help from the state. Maybe the rest should be like that?
        1. Alf
          +12
          17 August 2021 18: 40
          Quote: Denis Shestakov
          I myself paid for the toilet in the apartment, and I built the toilet myself in the country, I don't expect any help from the state. Maybe the rest should be like that?

          Should you build village schools, too, at your own expense?
        2. -2
          17 August 2021 19: 22
          Narrow thinker.
          I'm talking about toilets in schools, hospitals of our vast on the outskirts, sewage treatment plants in the Crimea and the water supply system at Putin's grandmother
    3. +4
      17 August 2021 19: 36
      Quote: Tagan
      Russia can bake, like pies, nuclear power plants.

      NPPs are not pies, the first person they meet does not need them.
    4. +6
      18 August 2021 10: 25
      Quote: Tagan
      Russia can bake, like pies, nuclear power plants.

      These pies are expensive and pay off in decades if they pay off.
      that we critically need a serious and working school of military anthropology, orientalism and analytics.

      What does not work in the near abroad will not work in the far.
  3. PPD
    +11
    17 August 2021 15: 40
    What a "confident" country Sudan!
    First yes, then no. Erdogan suggested, and the position is changing to the exact opposite.
    However, with our bases and supplies, it was bad even with the 2nd Pacific. 118 years ago.
    Unfortunately, the times of the USSR are over.
  4. -2
    17 August 2021 15: 44
    The shame of America's withdrawal from Afghanistan should become a visual aid for the Russian Federation as well (learn from the mistakes of others, not from our own). Glory to all the gods that did not merge with Sudan! Now the work mentioned by the author with more or less predictable and loyal partners for the deployment of military bases (MTO points), such as Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Belarus, looks more preferable and relevant. The USSR left Afghanistan not as shamefully as the United States is now, but the infrastructure we built there (bridges, roads, runways) was ultimately used against us. At least the Americans did not step on this rake.
    1. -2
      17 August 2021 16: 15
      Belarus has no outlet to the Red Sea laughing
      1. +20
        17 August 2021 18: 34
        Uh, don't tell me, where are the shrimps and seafood from? Not from the Pinsk swamps laughing
      2. Alf
        +11
        17 August 2021 18: 41
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Belarus has no outlet to the Red Sea laughing

        On the other hand, the US 6th Fleet is already dangling off the coast of Belarus ...
        1. +6
          17 August 2021 18: 42
          Why are the coastal batteries inactive? belay ? Shrimp soldiers catch wassat ?
          1. Alf
            +5
            17 August 2021 18: 44
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Why are the coastal batteries inactive? belay ?

            Russia did not deliver shells, he says, the grenades of the wrong system.
            1. +1
              17 August 2021 18: 44
              They stole everything again ...
              1. Alf
                +7
                17 August 2021 18: 48
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                They stole everything again ...

                I can be mistaken in the name of the king.
                Once Alexander 2 came from a tour and asked his substitute minister - How are things in Russia? The minister answered briefly - Steal. The emperor calmed down. laughing
                1. +4
                  17 August 2021 18: 49
                  Traditions must be respected and followed Yes
                2. +5
                  19 August 2021 06: 37
                  Actually, this is Saltykov-Shchedrin and no Alexander has anything to do with it.
          2. -2
            17 August 2021 18: 51
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Why are the coastal batteries inactive? belay ? Shrimp soldiers catch wassat ?

            They are deeply conspiratorial, just like the navy of the Republic of Belarus. lol wassat
      3. +1
        17 August 2021 18: 49
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Belarus has no outlet to the Red Sea laughing

        Believe it or not, there is no exit to the Baltic Sea either. But the Baltic ports suffer losses due to the actions of the Belarusians ...
        1. +6
          17 August 2021 18: 54
          there is no exit to the Baltic Sea either
          It was initially about the need for a naval base in the Red Sea, and smart people in response recommended negotiating with Belarus. Something like this.
          suffer losses
          And why are they suffering losses, while in Belarus the real per capita GDP is 4 (four) times lower than that of the Lithuanians?
          1. +1
            17 August 2021 18: 56
            In Belarus, the purchasing power is four times higher. Prices are lower,
            1. +1
              17 August 2021 18: 59
              Far from four, a maximum of a third, and even then not at all. Imported is much more expensive.
              Flights are generally in the stratosphere.
              1. +2
                20 August 2021 07: 57
                In terms of PPP per capita, Lithuania is 1.5-2 times higher, depending on the calculation method. Not at 4.
                1. -1
                  20 August 2021 10: 19
                  Not at 4.
                  Real per capita GDP - shows the relative strength of the economy. In Lithuania, it is almost 4 times higher (22.7 versus 6.1). And the recalculation by PPP is relatively inaccurate - it depends on the technique of counting, but it also shows a double gap with the potato power. So the prices are four times lower to justify the unfortunate lead of the Lithuanians, is not observed. Whatever one may say, the average Lithuanian has many times more in his pocket.
                  1. +1
                    20 August 2021 10: 37
                    Not at times. A Lithuanian who receives twice as much per month as a Belarusian, by the end of the month, has nothing left as well as a Belarusian. This is a visual representation of the concept of "purchasing power parity".
                    1. +1
                      20 August 2021 10: 39
                      Whose economy is performing better? Do Lithuanians go to Belarus to work, to clean the bulba, or vice versa?
                      1. +1
                        20 August 2021 11: 57
                        Do Lithuanians work at home or travel to other countries? Do Belarusians move to Lithuania or do they just earn euros there in order to spend from the Republic of Belarus, since it is possible to buy twice as much goods and services in the Republic of Belarus with a Lithuanian salary as in Lithuania?
                      2. +1
                        20 August 2021 12: 27
                        going to other countries?
                        They go, but to those where Belarusians are simply not allowed. In addition, they have begun to return en masse for a long time, especially if they have their own housing.
                        Lithuanian salary in the Republic of Belarus can be purchased
                        Fly from Minsk to London or Lisbon for 20 euros smile ... And purely subjectively, only excisable goods are significantly cheaper in Belarus.
                      3. +1
                        20 August 2021 12: 55
                        And utility bills are also significantly cheaper. And almost the entire service sector.
                      4. 0
                        20 August 2021 13: 05
                        utility bills are significantly cheaper.
                        Again, by about a third (the former was counted on and translated).
                        the whole service sector.

                        Everything ... I'm breaking across the border laughing Minsk, accept a refugee Yes
                      5. +1
                        20 August 2021 13: 08
                        I'm not talking about that. The average level in Lithuania is, of course, higher. But not as much as it might seem at first glance.
                      6. +1
                        20 August 2021 13: 11
                        Certainly not tenfold. But it is essential. And no port games have changed anything.
            2. 0
              19 August 2021 22: 20
              This is still loot from Russia. And as you get tired of bashing for the father, the purchasing power there will fall below the plinth.
    2. -1
      20 August 2021 19: 44
      Quote: Scharnhorst
      Now the work mentioned by the author with more or less predictable and loyal partners for the deployment of military bases (MTO points), such as Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Belarus, looks more preferable and relevant.

      Debts were written off in Cuba, and they received nothing, now the Chinese "rule" there ...
      Venezuela owes us 50 lard "from Baku" and "forgave" the debt to us and we have not grown together with the base there ...
      According to the Constitution, Iran is prohibited from having foreign states on its territory ...
      RB sent us a long time ago with this absurd request ... everything seems to be clear, the RF has no sane partners, tk. the Russian Foreign Ministry can only agree on the cancellation of debts ...
  5. sav
    +21
    17 August 2021 15: 45
    The lack of a competent analysis of the operational and strategic situation brings Russia down again and again on various fronts

    And the saddest thing is that this loss will not affect the persons responsible for the erroneous decisions. All expenses will be paid by the budget
    1. -3
      17 August 2021 17: 04
      Do you know the list of expenses? Can you share? Or is it so, the requirements of the conjuncture?
      1. sav
        +20
        17 August 2021 21: 51
        Quote: Mitroha
        Do you know the list of expenses? Can you share? Or is it so, the requirements of the conjuncture?

        Who will tell us about them?
        Counter question: do you think that in foreign policy, at the interstate level (especially in risky projects), something goes without money?
        1. -5
          18 August 2021 07: 12
          I can assume anything, but you argue that there are expenses and they will be paid by the budget, then present facts and evidence, and if not, then remove your statement.
          1. sav
            +21
            18 August 2021 08: 53
            Quote: Mitroha
            you claim that there are expenses and they will be paid by the budget, then provide facts and evidence, and if not, then remove your statement

            That is, do you think that officials who made the wrong decisions will pay for their mistakes from their salaries? You are not right. And since you require proof, then bring your own - as officials "enter in the cashier"
            In the meantime, I see how you approve of the rash steps of our side in those issues where caution and predicting the consequences is required.
    2. +6
      17 August 2021 18: 20
      Quote: sav
      The lack of a competent analysis of the operational and strategic situation brings Russia down again and again on various fronts

      And the saddest thing is that this loss will not affect the persons responsible for the erroneous decisions. All expenses will be paid by the budget

      Even though we lost this diplomatic game of playing on the world chessboard with Sudan, we lost to strong opponents - the United States and NATO, then we need to wipe ourselves off, learn lessons and play other games, and there are quite a few of them.
      The most important game is the domestic economy of Russia.
  6. +2
    17 August 2021 15: 45
    As was natural, Russia was kicked out of this tangle - playfully, in passing and with extremely serious consequences for our foreign policy activities.
    It is not very clear from the article on the basis of what such a conclusion was made. If based on this interview
    “We are currently reviewing the agreement on the Russian facility, since we cannot sign agreements that harm the interests of Sudan. It was signed under the previous regime, but was not ratified by the legislature, as required by the procedure for approving international treaties. For this reason, we are revising it to clearly define the interests of the Sudan. This is what was discussed at the last negotiations with the Russian side - in the implementation of this agreement, we want to achieve maximum benefits for ourselves ",

    - the statement of the Chief of the General Staff of the Sudan Mohammad Usman al-Hussein in an interview with the Blue Nile TV channel.
    then it was given on June 1st. But already on June 12
    The Foreign Minister noted that the agreement on the creation of a logistics center for the Russian Navy in Sudan was signed by the Military Council of the Sudan in 2019, but has not yet been ratified.
    "The process of ratification of any international agreement requires passing through the legislative council, but in its absence at present <...> the council of ministers on the one hand and the civil wing of the Sovereign Council on the other must study such agreements before they are ratified," al-Mahdi said. noting that all agreements previously concluded by Sudan, but not ratified by parliament, are now going through this procedure.
    That is, there is no talk of breaking the agreement. At least not yet. There are no other facts to support the opinion of the gap in the article.
    1. +5
      17 August 2021 17: 47
      So it has not yet been ratified by the Sudan, it was written about this in the last article.
    2. +2
      18 August 2021 12: 20
      It's simple: dangi, dangi come on! And go ... (well, you get the idea)
  7. +5
    17 August 2021 15: 46
    And what is the attractiveness of the Russian Federation?
    Turks are co-religionists with specifics, the PRC had money. The USSR had an attractive ideology.
    Now the Yankees.
    -sanctions:
    - "label" of accomplices of terrorism or the like.
    Quite enough.
    The author is 100% right when he talks about the absence of pros in many areas, first of all, analysts .. Yes, and strategists.
    And what are the diplomats from the embassy doing?
    In general, learn and learn ... do not step on a rake.
    1. +5
      17 August 2021 17: 51
      The USSR had an attractive ideology.
      and galoshes ... while the galoshes were supplied to Africa, walking on the sand, there were bases
    2. +5
      19 August 2021 22: 27
      As a person who regularly played football with the guys from the Shanghai Consulate, I can say that diplomats are engaged, as it were, ... uh ... yes, in general, bureaucracy, and in fact, even nothing. And this is in the PRC.

      Ambassadorial work is a sinecure. The results of this work can be enormous, as well as the price of stocks in this work, too. But! This does not greatly affect salary and motivation.

      Plus, a numb career lift. There is no such thing that today you showed yourself cool in foreign policy, and tomorrow you will be raised up as a prize. Upstairs your layouts, you are superfluous there. They'd better put a strange alcoholic in the press secretary than you good fellow.

      Here is the result.
      1. 0
        23 August 2021 23: 32
        Nicely explained good
  8. +2
    17 August 2021 15: 58
    You should not immediately think that everything is lost, and even when they talk about the prodigal Turks who are strengthening their dominance everywhere, then you should wait a bit. Does free cheese only come in a mousetrap? you are sure? Ukrainians and daddy constantly take money from us, a lot of money, so what? free cheese say? Such allies are always temporary and are always ready to sell you for a great price. Buy everything with money? This is a Chinese approach, but without the determination to defend its interests by armed force, it is worthless. The Americans have not yet closely engaged in the Chinese, but are they capable of getting into bloodshed somewhere in Kenya or Burkina Faso, defending their investments? Question. Now everyone is shouting about the failure of the Yankees in Afghanistan, they say they screwed up to the fullest. Yes - they screwed up, but where is the guarantee that others will be capable of something more. The Yankes have 800 bases and one more in Sudan - will not make the difference in the general crisis in America. And for us a lesson, first - VChK, then the base. A group of unknowns accidentally makes a guro from the local king and his guard or with her help. This is how it used to be - in Ethiopia, a living god, the local emperor was drowned in a toilet and began to build socialism with an African face (that is, with mass executions and hunger), no matter what they are building: capitalism, socialism or treibalism, all the same mass executions and hunger ... Everything new is good forgetting the old. A unique place Sudan ....... in the USSR there was a unique place - a special school in the Crimea, where they trained combat mobene-uene, a year of preparation and hemorrhoids on a global scale were provided for our Ammer brothers.
  9. -10
    17 August 2021 16: 14
    Over and over again problems with our Ministry of Foreign Affairs
  10. +3
    17 August 2021 16: 26

    Neutral opinion: ya is a meticulous old man ™, and specially looked at the location - so there are so many "literally abandoned" places in this port that to renew the contract on the base, all you need to do is pay money to the new authorities again (I don't know from what budget )) in Africa, everything is solved only in this way.
  11. -7
    17 August 2021 16: 28
    What is the point of Russia having a military base in Sudan? There is no military or economic sense in this. The pointless sitting in Syria will be enough.
    1. +1
      17 August 2021 16: 37
      What is the point of Russia having a military base in Sudan?
      Neutral opinion: well, in general, we are not talking about a military base. And the very meaning: to have, albeit a symbolic, but official presence and in the future "dance metaphorically from this stove" in the political scenario (participate on an equal footing at the UN level in discussing their interests in this situation)
      1. +1
        19 August 2021 22: 28
        How long has Sudan become more interesting than Yakutia to dance there?
        1. +1
          21 August 2021 16: 34
          Zodd zverev
          19 August 2021 22: 28

          +1
          How long has Sudan become more interesting than Yakutia to dance there?
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          For me, though an emigrant, the solution of problems in Russia is closer. It was about foreign policy above.
  12. 0
    17 August 2021 16: 37
    The author rejoices early, passing on wishful thinking.
    Negotiations are still underway, and Russia does not at all look like a party,
    somehow lost both prestige and prospects in this region. And after the recent events in Afghanistan, the arrow
    the compass for the countries of this region unambiguously swung in the direction of Russia. What is the author of this "thoughtful" article
    and will be convinced in the near future ...
    1. Alf
      0
      17 August 2021 18: 42
      Quote: Camo Grydeshi
      will be convinced in the near future ...

      Which one do you know?
  13. 0
    17 August 2021 19: 59
    who will give more money to that and the base
  14. 0
    17 August 2021 20: 08
    Quote: shahor
    Quote: Tagan
    Russia can bake, like pies, nuclear power plants.

    NPPs are not pies, the first person they meet does not need them.

    This is a special case. At the expense of what Russia may or may not.
  15. +1
    17 August 2021 20: 13
    Quote: ja-ja-vw
    As pies cannot, this is nonsense.
    Everything that we build outside the country is on credit.
    Yes, and Sudan does not need a nuclear power plant, and we cannot master the naval base there, and we do not need it: there is less than 1% flow to our address. First, you need to provide your country with "toilets"

    Is a loan free? Yes, not necessarily a nuclear power plant.
  16. -4
    17 August 2021 21: 12
    We should somehow save our country. Soon there will be no population left in Russia. And we are puffing up. Do we need Sudan?
  17. -1
    18 August 2021 08: 57
    Why is there a project 01090 museum ship in the title photo? This is somehow not correct.
  18. 0
    18 August 2021 11: 40
    It is clear why the Turks were "ahead". They approached this issue in a more comprehensive and large-scale manner. We wanted a piece of territory for the base, they decided to take the whole country.
    Okay, we wonder how China missed this situation?
  19. -1
    18 August 2021 12: 03
    Again a tomato knife stuck in the back never happened like this, and here it is again. In honor of this wonderful event, it is necessary to a dear partner that you don’t have to sell it: S-500, rubella or a 5th generation aircraft to help make, fires are still to be extinguished for the sake of hotels loved by Russian tourists, of course, a good deed, for dear Rejepik nothing is a pity.
  20. +1
    18 August 2021 17: 05
    Is it even difficult to say to be upset or happy in this situation? If such an affront happened 3 years later, when tens of millions of dollars had already been invested in this naval base? They would leave, as in the days of the USSR, and even at a loss in the form of a naval base left to the cunning Sudanese. drinks
  21. -2
    19 August 2021 00: 15
    I do not believe that Russian foreign policy is so mediocre.
    1. 0
      19 August 2021 06: 07
      Let's wait and see. Maybe everything will be formed. A plus for the author, maybe he goes too far, but there should be different options for opinions on the site.
    2. +1
      19 August 2021 19: 11
      This betrays a good person in you. A good person always drives away from himself the thought that others are selfish idiots.
      By the way, the main problem of mankind is the influence of morality on the intellect.
  22. -2
    19 August 2021 10: 22
    Russia and Turkey will agree on a Russian base in Sudan, no problem. The Turks will build it. Overseas LGBT lovers will have to come to terms with this, after the airport in Kabul, the seizure empire will have no time for Africa. And dementia leads to a tragic end.
  23. +1
    19 August 2021 11: 49
    They used to shit. No getting used to ...
  24. +1
    19 August 2021 13: 02
    It seems that the author is in a hurry somewhere - the tangle of Sudan, these are relations with Cairo, Addis Ababa about the hydroelectric power station on the Nile and many other layouts ... and not just the base.
    So far, no one has screwed up, remember Afghanistan and Bin Laden, who was hiding in Sudan ...
    Sudan on the left is being derbanded by the Christian inhabitants of the country, it is not only a Muslim country, they split off South Sudan.
    The country was the largest in area in Africa and the largest in the world - there is enough space for everyone.
    One-sided article coverage //
  25. -1
    19 August 2021 13: 14
    one of the largest in the world - typo
  26. -2
    19 August 2021 20: 04
    Opposite the Turks and the United States, we need to come to an agreement with China and Iran on a joint base. Of course, such an agreement cannot be created unceremoniously. But one base for three will be beneficial for all.
  27. 0
    19 August 2021 23: 49
    Quote: askovvladimir70vladimir
    Opposite the Turks and the United States, we need to come to an agreement with China and Iran on a joint base. Of course, such an agreement cannot be created unceremoniously. But one base for three will be beneficial for all.

    The idea is great! And if there is also a common ship in it (one), there will be full pockets of benefits.
  28. +1
    20 August 2021 08: 01
    There will be a base in Sudan - good. It will not be - not bad either. These are all not paramount issues for the Russian Federation. There is where to put the effort.
  29. +3
    20 August 2021 12: 52
    This statement became outdated several months ago. Yes, indeed, on June 1, 2021, there was such a statement from the Sudanese General Staff. But on June 4, Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation Mikhail Bogdanov reported to the President of the Russian Federation that Sudan would not withdraw its signature from the agreement. On June 25, the Government provided the President with RF agreement on the establishment of a naval base in Sudan for subsequent ratification. On July 1, 2021, Russian President Vladimir Putin submitted to the State Duma a bill to ratify an agreement on the construction of a Russian naval base in Sudan. On July 12, at the request of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, the Sudanese parliament is preparing to ratify this Lavrov noted that the schedule for considering the agreement will most likely discuss the new composition of the State Duma in September 2021, so the article is a fat minus for incompetence and distortion of reality.
  30. 0
    20 August 2021 13: 15
    Well, I don’t know, you can endlessly put different theories under Sudan’s ban on accepting our ships. But everything is sometimes much easier - a subpoena (to infringe on Russians in any form) plus nishtyaki or stupid grandmother to the president.
  31. -1
    20 August 2021 16: 41
    We have nothing special to offer to Sudan. So we flew out. But there are no particular problems. We have not invested anything there, we have not lost anything. One less potential freeloader.
  32. 0
    20 August 2021 19: 02
    They will write crap but it will not be so and they will not apologize!
  33. 0
    21 August 2021 06: 03
    we started a dangerous game on a foreign field without significant preparation and any serious trump cards.

    This once again confirms the extremely low intellectual and analytical level of the employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
    The awkward and extremely ineffective activity of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in almost all areas has become the rule in recent years, and not an exception, the Sudanese events are a vivid confirmation of this.
  34. +1
    22 August 2021 12: 40
    Glad to see your next article on VO!
    All these events very well show both the unwillingness of our country to conduct a really serious foreign policy far from its borders (even at the level of the USSR, which could hardly be called good), and, in principle, the quality of our current planning and goal-setting in serious matters.
    We still imagine ourselves to be a superpower, while in reality we increasingly look like a regional and hyper-militarized power that is rapidly and comprehensively losing its competence. Serious analytical organizations in our country at the moment will experience certain difficulties - due to the general decline in competence, due to the growing nepotism, stagnation, gerontocracy, corruption and the general "know-it-allness" of the bosses who have long and firmly held their posts. These people understand that effective analytical tools are a threat to their comfortable incompetence, on the one hand, and on the other hand, it is a threat to the analysis of their activities by such structures and the diversion of cash flows under their control to these structures. So they will have a powerful motivation to torpedo or lead such structures, which is what we see in my opinion. Fundamentally, under the current conditions, this problem is probably practically impossible to solve - "practically" because in the case of "will of the first order" it would be possible to create a similar structure and attract funds there - but analytics is not done on the knee, and in the process of creation the project became would be a victim of intrigue and intrigue.
    Now, in my opinion, we are completely satisfied in foreign policy with a magic mantra (instead of drawing conclusions and digging into analytics) - "The insidious West crap everywhere, oh how bad it is, oh how low it is" - this mantra sounds and everyone shrugs "Well, what can you do!" - we will win another time, as they say.

    My personal opinion is that even if we now, by some miracle, would give birth to an effective, highly intelligent and, most importantly, deshman preparation for our global presence (with the prospect of growth) - our available forces for the effective use of this infrastructure and presence (without prejudice to the security of our near zone) - too small. And our ability to involve and get involved in international projects that can recoup such an architecture is completely questionable, due to the sour economic and legal internal climate, dumb diplomacy, economic and industrial decline and the underlying weak planning ahead (and clearly insufficient predictability of the actions of our authorities ). Therefore, the creation of such external objects, even in ideal form, is a run in front of an empty cart.
  35. 0
    26 August 2021 10: 50
    Traitors are not liked anywhere.
    There is NO hope for them.
    They will sell it.
    Best case scenario.
    Or maybe they will do the same with the USSR.
  36. 0
    27 August 2021 15: 02
    Is there a need for such a base in Sudan? There is a long-standing loyal ally of Egypt in that region. It is with Egypt that we need to continue to cooperate. Let Sudan hang himself .... without Russia.
    I would ask the military review to take control and often inform us about the progress of creating new ekranoplanes in Russia. The Americans forced Russia to abandon ekranoplanes, and now they themselves are hastily developing their ekranoplanes. Russia may lose its leading position in the creation of ekranoplanes. The United States is slowly changing its naval doctrine. The emphasis is on the creation of ekranoplanes and other high-speed combat ships. The efficiency of ekranoplanes is many times higher than conventional ships due to their mobility. The ocean-going ekranoplan will allow you to control the entire world ocean. And amphibious aircraft with great autonomy and flight range are now very relevant. We must think for the future, and not blindly copy the foe. In this way, we will never become leaders and masters at sea and in the ocean.
  37. +1
    3 September 2021 09: 59
    The incomparable Lavrov and the poetess Zakharova once again got rid of it. And when were they successful? With such a Foreign Ministry and analytics in general, ours is to comment on the events and not to shine. We are no longer a subject of politics.
  38. 0
    5 September 2021 06: 50
    This has always been the case with the bulk of the Third World, who pays for a girl, then she dances.
  39. 0
    27 September 2021 08: 36
    and who is this inquisitive or sharp-witted?
  40. 0
    24 October 2021 19: 54
    Say what you like, but we were furnished. This indicates that we do not know how to act with soft power. He does not know how to extract gesheft from the situation, and he cannot rely only on military force.

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