"Debris and fragments scattered tens of meters": Eyewitnesses talk about an explosion in a minibus in Voronezh

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"Debris and fragments scattered tens of meters": Eyewitnesses talk about an explosion in a minibus in Voronezh

There is additional information related to the explosion of the PAZ minibus in Voronezh. Recall that the explosion occurred the day before at around 21:30 (Moscow time). At that moment, the passenger bus was at a stop in the central part of the city, near one of the largest shopping and entertainment centers in the city - "Chizhov Gallery". According to initial data, 17 people were injured as a result of the explosion. Many of them have cut wounds from shards of glass and fragments of the metal lining of the bus, as well as head injuries.

After a while, information appeared that one of the passengers, a woman about 35 years old, had died in an emergency hospital. By now, information has come about the second victim of the explosion. She was a woman born in 1966. Doctors fought for her life to the last, but the efforts were unsuccessful.



The work of investigators continues, connected with clarifying the reasons for the incident. It became known that within a few hours experts from Moscow arrived in Voronezh to help local law enforcement officers establish all the details of the incident.

The main possible cause is still referred to as “hardware failure”. At the same time, it has not yet been indicated what kind of equipment in a PAZik with a diesel engine could lead to such consequences. The version about an explosive device or the carriage of flammable or explosive substances in the passenger compartment is also not swept aside.

It was confirmed that no damaging elements, with the exception of fragments of the bus itself, were found.

Flowers from the residents of Voronezh began to appear at the scene of the tragedy, expressing condolences to the relatives of the victims.

Eyewitnesses, talking about the explosion in the bus, talk about its relatively high power. A visitor from the territory of Ukraine who was at the scene of the incident, who was with his family at the bus stop, compared the power of the explosion with "two mortar mines." The man took part in helping the victims and was one of the first to run into the bus after the explosion.

Other eyewitnesses, commenting on the incident, note that the dispersal of glass fragments and metal parts of the bus structure amounted to several tens of meters - cars that passed at a relatively large distance from the minibus stationed at the stop were injured.
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    1. -1
      13 August 2021 10: 29
      Explosives technicians will figure it out. If the FSB profits a terrorist attack, then its confession will be unhurried.
      1. -8
        13 August 2021 10: 32
        If the FSB profits a terrorist attack, then its confession will be unhurried

        Especially against the backdrop of the upcoming elections.
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            1. +8
              13 August 2021 11: 36
              And what did they do it like that? And what would happen to the hostages in the cabin?
              On the other hand, as if there would be no resistance ... As long as the eyes and ears begin to act, you can read the building and not just the bus ...
              1. +4
                13 August 2021 11: 44
                Quote: your1970
                And what did they do it like that?

                Illegally installed gas equipment. Economists, damn it, they'll figure it out.
                1. +2
                  13 August 2021 12: 01
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Quote: your1970
                  And what did they do it like that?

                  Illegally installed gas equipment. Economists, damn it, they'll figure it out.

                  I'm actually talking about the Kazakh special forces and their video post above belay belay
                  1. +4
                    13 August 2021 13: 13
                    I do not know. First, during the exercises on the hostages, the KPVT was shot at, and then the shaitan with a stick (instead of a flash-noise grenade) to make sure.
                    1. 0
                      14 August 2021 06: 20
                      Quote: Mountain Shooter
                      Illegally installed gas equipment

                      And there is nothing more to explode.
                      If the gas tank had exploded, there would have been a fire immediately after the explosion.
                2. +1
                  13 August 2021 12: 10
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Illegally installed gas equipment. Economists, damn it, they'll figure it out.

                  It would be immediately opened and presented with evidence. Perhaps a bottle of liquid oxygen was transported for someone, but even then they would immediately find a shell. As a more complex version of the terrorist attack, a shellless explosive device was pre-planted in the bus, which could be detonated even without an external control signal.
                  1. sen
                    +2
                    13 August 2021 13: 03
                    It would be immediately opened and presented with evidence.

                    The news reported that they checked, there was no gas equipment.
                  2. 0
                    13 August 2021 16: 58
                    "It would be immediately opened and presented with evidence. Perhaps a cylinder of liquid oxygen was being transported for someone."
                    that's bullshit. you imagine a balloon with liquid oxygen? it is unlikely that he would have walked through the doors. and where can I get it? they are not sold in the bazaar. And did anyone pay attention to an aunt in a light dress, who got on the bus, then got out of it before the explosion, and did not even turn her head after the explosion, hiding from her eyes?
                    1. +1
                      13 August 2021 20: 31
                      Quote: aglet
                      that's bullshit. can you imagine a liquid oxygen cylinder?

                      And what to imagine - a 10 or 1 liter oxygen cylinder is a common occurrence, you just are not in the subject.
                      1. 0
                        14 August 2021 00: 07
                        Healthy? Liter oxygen cylinder? These cylinders are used by mountain climbers. How are you going to blow it up? This is not an old Soviet balloon. I rubbed it with an oil rag and wax. This is how gossip is born
                        1. -1
                          14 August 2021 09: 44
                          Quote: Serg Serg
                          How are you going to blow it up?

                          I had no intention of blowing it up at all. He himself could leak, for example, due to a faulty valve, and if he was in a closed space under the body, then he could explode from an accidental spark. In exactly the same way, explosions occur in buildings when craftsmen make stretch ceilings using faulty equipment.
                          Quote: Serg Serg
                          This is how gossip is born

                          Himself then at least once dealt with high-pressure cylinders up to 200 atm?
                        2. -1
                          14 August 2021 12: 30
                          "I had no intention of blowing it up at all. It could have leaked itself, for example, due to a faulty valve, and if it was in a closed space under the body, then it could have exploded from an accidental spark."
                          Schaub did you know oxygen is not flammable and not explosive
                          "Have you ever dealt with high-pressure cylinders up to 200 atm?"
                          had, and more than once. the pressure there, by the way, is 350 atm
                        3. -2
                          14 August 2021 16: 54
                          Quote: aglet
                          Schaub did you know oxygen is not flammable and not explosive

                          Not everyone thinks so:
                          High oxidative activity of oxygen. Many flammable substances and materials become explosive when in contact with oxygen. This could result in an explosion and fire. The danger of an explosion can arise from high pressure inside the cylinder, heating, an increase in the oxygen content in the air volume.

                          Quote: aglet
                          venerable, you are not in the subject. what you pictured is a compressed oxygen cylinder, not liquefied

                          Well, let it not be liquefied oxygen in a cylinder, but simply compressed - and that an explosion could not have happened because of this? Explain popularly why the explosion could not occur if the cylinder was faulty.
                          Quote: aglet
                          and why should we carry oxygen cylinders in a minibus?

                          Some unauthorized persons could put it specially for sabotage in the underbody space when the bus was parked somewhere at night.
                          Quote: aglet
                          had, and more than once. the pressure there, by the way, is 350 atm

                          But figs for you - it could be a test pressure, and the usual pressure in cylinders with compressed air is 150-180 atm.
                        4. 0
                          14 August 2021 22: 18
                          put the thread in the space under the floor of the groove ... imperceptible for the fur ... yes, imperceptible for everyone.
                        5. -1
                          16 August 2021 15: 21
                          "Explain popularly why the explosion could not occur if the cylinder was faulty."
                          because oxygen is not flammable or explosive. read chemistry, for the 7th grade
                          "But figs for you - it could have been a test pressure, and the usual pressure in cylinders with compressed air is 150-180 atm."
                          working pressure in cylinders with technical gases - 350 atm. and you can pump 20 atm there
                        6. 0
                          16 August 2021 15: 27
                          "Well, let it not be liquefied oxygen in a cylinder, but simply compressed - and that an explosion could not have happened because of this?"
                          liquefied and compressed oxygen are two big differences. and I say it again - oxygen is not flammable and not explosive
                        7. -2
                          16 August 2021 20: 30
                          Quote: aglet
                          and I say it again - oxygen is not flammable and not explosive

                          And the fact that you do not have it in a vacuum, but in an ordinary environment, where there may be various impurities and vapors of volatile substances, you certainly do not want to take into account. Well, well, you also advise me to study chemistry, but physicists themselves do not know simple things, not to mention the fact that coal dust can explode even with the usual oxygen content in the air.
                        8. 0
                          18 August 2021 09: 44
                          "you are not in a vacuum, but in an ordinary environment,"
                          for the gas to explode, an explosive concentration must be created. try to create such a concentration in an open volume under the body of the bus. and in general, there was no gas there, no cylinders were found
                          "where there can be various impurities and vapors of volatile substances"
                          What extremely dangerous substances and vapors, and in what quantity, could be located at the installation site of the allegedly available cylinder with liquid, well, let it be compressed oxygen?
                        9. +1
                          18 August 2021 11: 03
                          Quote: aglet
                          there was no gas there, no cylinders were found

                          I know this, which is why I said that the traces of the balloon would have been found anyway. But the main version, I would consider the explosion of a low-power shellless device, which was discussed in my text.
                          Quote: aglet
                          what extremely hazardous substances and vapors, and in what quantity, could be found at the installation site

                          Fuel vapors, lubricants, wet paint - all this can be on the bus.
                        10. -1
                          14 August 2021 22: 16
                          ignorant ... well, not educated, you see
                        11. -1
                          14 August 2021 22: 15
                          200 points? What kind of cylinders? I just have never seen one like this.
                        12. 0
                          15 August 2021 09: 57
                          Quote: yang174
                          200 points? What kind of cylinders? I just have never seen one like this.

                          These ones :
                          July 31 2018
                          Buy from us a 40l / 200atm acetylene cylinder manufactured by Eurocylinder Systems ...

                          Compressed air cylinder, 20L (200 ATM)

                          http://www.vsedlyasvarki.ru/ballon-vozduh-20-noviy-200
                          As for the use, in my time there were such AKOU installations, they just used cylinders with a maximum pressure of 200 atm. I think anyone who has come across this will confirm this.
                        13. -1
                          16 August 2021 15: 24
                          "Buy from us an acetylene cylinder 40l / 200at"
                          it was not about acetylene, it has its own, special conditions, and not about compressed air, you can pump anything there, it was about oxygen
                        14. 0
                          16 August 2021 16: 36
                          "Buy an acetylene cylinder 40l / 200atm from us"
                          acetylene in cylinders is contained under pressure up to 15 atm, dissolved in acetone, and filled with a porous mass (activated carbon). if a cylinder can withstand 200 atm, this does not mean that acetylene is pumped into it at a pressure of 200 atm
                      2. 0
                        14 August 2021 12: 26
                        "And what to imagine - a 10 or 1 liter oxygen cylinder is a common occurrence, you just are not in the subject."
                        venerable, you are not in the subject. what you depicted is a balloon with succinct oxygen, not with liquefied
                        and why should we carry oxygen cylinders in a minibus?
          3. +10
            13 August 2021 11: 30
            Since the rating of the authorities is falling rapidly. It almost never existed, but they want to keep the last 3 percent,

            What a familiar manual)))
            We, Belarus, too, the opponents focused on the fact that Lukashenka is supported by no more than 3% of the population. All the asphalt and all buildings were covered with these 3%.
            They just don't realize that these 3% are the same oppas.
            1. -3
              14 August 2021 22: 19
              Well, probably Putin is supported by 146% for the signature of the pension reform?
          4. +11
            13 August 2021 11: 33
            Since the rating of the authorities is falling rapidly. It almost never existed anyway, but they want to keep the last 3 percent so that these people can create extras on Solovyov's show.


            And of course a terrorist attack will add a rating? Who is who, and the authorities are least of all interested in a terrorist attack. On the same Magnitogorsk, if I am not mistaken, there is still little information and the investigation is underway.
            1. -1
              13 August 2021 17: 51
              It is clear to whom the terrorist attack is beneficial - to those who are not satisfied with our government.
              And these inhumans do not care about those whom they kill and maim.
              They just want to raise a riot and change the power in Russia. IMHO. hi
          5. +8
            13 August 2021 11: 46
            Moreover, they themselves arranged it. Since the rating of the authorities is falling rapidly. He almost never existed, but they want to keep the last 3 percent "


            This is what ....... do you need to be to write this? Here many are drowning for Stalin and Against Putin. But they do not understand that under Stalin, the opposition would not have sat here - it would have sat elsewhere.
            1. +2
              13 August 2021 13: 39
              That is, you have hidden the logical fact that under Stalin they are not going to be the opposition?
              1. +3
                13 August 2021 13: 48
                No, this is the logical fact that Baba Yaga is always against it. laughing There is such a term - protest electorate. They always feel bad, always someone is to blame, but not them. A joke about a blind but greedy girl is just about them. Under Stalin it was much more difficult to live, albeit partly for objective reasons. Do you think they would be happy in such conditions? Then, even for being late for work, one could sit down. Or for an anecdote. It's just that all lovers of Stalin are sure that they are saints and this will not happen to them. With a neighbor - let it be. It serves him right. He smoked at the entrance.
                1. +2
                  13 August 2021 14: 33
                  Either you're talking about an abstract protest electorate, or about specific apologists for Stalin.
                  Or did you immediately designate them as a "protest electorate"?
                  And yes, it may have been harder to live, but there was movement and efforts in the direction of improvement, and not vice versa.
                  And it was clear that "some" are not chic for the show, against the background of millions of the poor, and this is extremely important.
                  1. -3
                    13 August 2021 14: 48
                    Why is it so important to you? Personally, the toad does not press me. I think about how to make money, not take away and divide. Millionaires against the background of poverty are even in Africa and India. They even exist in communist China. Or are there no beggars and homeless people in the US? For the life of me I don’t understand why if I don’t have a yacht, then no one should.
                    1. +1
                      13 August 2021 14: 51
                      I am not against yachts as such, But only honestly earned.

                      Do you know about privatization?
                      Do you know yachtsmen?
                      1. -4
                        13 August 2021 15: 02
                        Privatization could not be fair. Yeltsin asked Chubais (sort of) - to whom should these factories be given? He replied - let them take whoever they want, in 5 years they will be in the hands of those who will cope with them. Putin really returned a lot of things to the state - defense industry, resources (gas, oil), albeit partially. But experts believe that up to 80% of the industry is somehow controlled by the state. Of course, the JSC will not give all the profits to the budget. They, like everyone else, pay taxes.
                        1. +2
                          13 August 2021 15: 14
                          "Privatization could not be fair. Yeltsin asked Chubais (sort of) - to whom should these plants be given?"

                          So we closed the question on yachts.
                          You yourself answered it.
                          So the "toad" has nothing to do with it.
              2. -1
                14 August 2021 22: 23
                excuse me, I am a complete zero in history. like under Stalin there was no opposition, there were unbeaten whites and sympathizers. well, just thieves and not good people who did not suit them around eliminated with the help of denunciations
                1. +1
                  14 August 2021 22: 35
                  Yes, our discussion unfolded due to the fact that my appellant put forward the idea that everyone who is not satisfied with the current situation and daydreams about "Stalin" is such a conglomeration of eternally unfounded dissatisfied, who are always dissatisfied with at least a billion dollars give them to everyone that they are not talking about justice, but simply such envious of someone else's success "Sharikovs" that just to take away the well-earned yachts and palaces from the rich, and they say they will not be able to stop and even begin to take away the last shirt from the poor, they say they have such a nature.
                  And they say that they would have been whining under Stalin, but they would have been quickly squashed.
          6. +5
            13 August 2021 12: 04
            Quote: Cron
            This is the basic version of our liberal party.

            =======
            The "liberal party" always has one version delirious other!
          7. 0
            14 August 2021 00: 01
            Stop carrying it. Itself is not zapadlo?
      2. +5
        13 August 2021 10: 35
        well, firstly, what does it mean profukal, and secondly, it least of all looks like a terrorist attack
      3. 0
        13 August 2021 10: 38

        A visitor from the territory of Ukraine who was at the scene of the incident, who was with his family at a bus stop, compared the power of the explosion with "two mortar mines"


        Quote: barclay
        Explosives will figure it out


        That's it Yes It is too early to give preliminary estimates without knowing the nature and mass of the explosive, the device of the "hell machine" (and no one has any doubts that this is a terrorist attack) and the place of its installation.
        1. +1
          13 August 2021 11: 40
          Give preliminary estimates, not knowing about the nature and mass of explosives, the device of the "infernal machine"

          Usually, when a car explodes, the flame (pressure) escapes through the windows. Here the flame went clearly to the side, just where the cylinder valve could look.
          Although, of course, the experts will tell you everything.
          1. 0
            13 August 2021 17: 01
            "Here the flame went clearly to the side, just where the cylinder valve could look."
            what bottle?
        2. +5
          13 August 2021 12: 23
          Strange, some kind of explosion. I tried to make video with stop frames:
          the beginning of the explosion. Pay attention to the fact that the explosion was from the bottom-left (burning fuel also flew to the left), but on the right of the bus there is a bright light spot from the explosion flash, and under the bus there is a shadow. Where did the light on the right side come from?

          PS
          By the way, the roof of the bus is without any balloons.
          1. 0
            13 August 2021 12: 27
            Quote: Bad_gr
            PS
            By the way, the roof of the bus is without any balloons.

            Yes Yes

            On this score, I would like to know the estimates of specialists in installing HBO on buses, specifically the PAZ brand.

            Are cylinders installed under the floor (on a frame)?
          2. 0
            13 August 2021 13: 20
            Quote: Bad_gr
            Where did the light on the right side come from?

            It looks like the floor in the cabin was torn out first (the flame went up) and only then the side panel of the bus. I am not an expert, so I could be wrong, but this is exactly a clap, not an explosion (everything flies from explosives at the same time).
          3. 0
            13 August 2021 13: 35
            so what without cylinders, if they made a self-propelled gun, they could hide the cylinders so that the traffic cops would not dig when checking
            1. 0
              13 August 2021 13: 38
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              so what without cylinders,

              In the news, at the beginning, the version was voiced that a gas cylinder on the roof exploded. Then she was no longer mentioned.
              1. 0
                13 August 2021 14: 55
                what I read was just about a gas cylinder without reference to location
          4. 0
            14 August 2021 12: 34
            on the right is an aunt in a light dress. notice what she did before the explosion and after
            1. 0
              14 August 2021 13: 48
              and what did she do?
              1. -1
                14 August 2021 14: 06
                "and what did she do?"
                she got on the bus, and a couple of minutes later got out of it, and did not even turn around to face the explosion
    2. -13
      13 August 2021 10: 36
      Miracles do not happen, diesel engines do not work on gas, and what could explode is a big question. But taking into account the threats of the Bandera supporters, one can assume anything.
      1. +22
        13 August 2021 10: 39
        Quote: Ros 56
        Miracles do not happen, diesel engines do not work on gas, and what could explode is a big question. But taking into account the threats of the Bandera supporters, one can assume anything.

        I will surprise you. Diesel engines run on gas ...
        1. +2
          13 August 2021 10: 44
          Quote: TampaRU
          I will surprise you. Diesel engines run on gas ...

          Work Yes

          But it is reported that there was no gas equipment on this PAZik request .
          In addition, it is not reported when mentioning the nature of the injuries about burns , which would probably have occurred in an explosion of an air-gas mixture, and there was no fire, not even a hint of it ...
          1. +2
            13 August 2021 11: 11
            Quote: PiK
            In addition, it is not reported when mentioning the nature of the injuries about burns

            At night it was infa that the most injured woman, who was in serious condition, had "traumatic amputation of both legs." ,
            1. +1
              13 August 2021 11: 17
              Quote: Stroporez
              At night it was infa that the most injured woman, who was in serious condition, had "traumatic amputation of both legs." ,

              Exactly Yes ... In an explosion of a gas-air mixture, such injuries usually do not occur, unless the injury is caused by the displacement of the vehicle structures under the force of the explosion.

              But then we can assume that with such an explosion, only the frame would remain from the bus.

              In general, amputation of the shins speaks of a local source of the explosion, not a gas explosion ...
              1. +1
                13 August 2021 11: 25
                Quote: PiK
                In general, amputation of the shins speaks of a local source of the explosion, not a gas explosion ...

                Now it's difficult to say something on a fragmentary infe, after all, gas when def. conditions becomes BB.
                I think we should wait for messages from the scene.
                In, by the way, Skomorokhov, in my opinion from Voronezh! Surely he will write on this topic.
              2. 0
                13 August 2021 13: 37
                giving what ?!
                traumatic amputation could be the result of shrapnel damage by parts of the cabin
              3. 0
                13 August 2021 15: 29
                According to eyewitnesses, the explosion was very loud. Judging by the video recordings, the flash at the epicenter of the explosion was long enough, and after it a large amount of white smoke was formed, which is typical, for example, for the operation of an IED based on nitrate. In the bus itself, the roof was torn off, windows and doors were smashed.
                Quote: PiK
                not about a gas explosion ...
        2. +4
          13 August 2021 10: 46
          Yes, they work, you are right .. But .. the cost of installing gas-diesel equipment on a Pazik-type bus is 250-300 tr. - only for equipment + decoration .. Do you think it is profitable for someone to really get confused? In addition, when a gas explodes, usually a fire.
          1. +1
            13 August 2021 11: 10
            Why not? depends on income ...
            1. +1
              13 August 2021 13: 14
              1. Let's roughly compare the consumption in terms of money for gas and diesel fuel per 100 km .. gas is quite a bit cheaper .. 4-5 years, only the difference will pay off (if the engine does not get up because of the gas) .. during this time, Pazik staggers, and you need to invest several hundred on gas at once - I don't see any particular benefit in such an enterprise.
              2. If the haulier wanted to put gas on, he wouldn’t take the diesel. it is more expensive than gasoline and a gas installation is several times cheaper ..
          2. 0
            13 August 2021 13: 38
            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            But .. the cost of installing gas-diesel equipment on a Pazik-type bus is 250-300 tr. - only for equipment + decoration .. you think it's profitable

            it is beneficial if on the left and without registration, it was infa that this company was already caught on this
            1. 0
              13 August 2021 16: 23
              Now it is already official: "A portable primus-type balloon exploded in one of the passengers of the bus in Voronezh - I will assume that this tore off her legs ..
              1. +1
                13 August 2021 17: 09
                "Now it is already official:" A portable primus-type balloon exploded in one of the passengers of the bus in Voronezh "
                this is one of the versions, moreover, delusional. a small can of propane for 100 grams, such destruction will not bring
              2. +1
                13 August 2021 17: 10
                I also heard it, I was surprised. There the can is thin-walled, stamped, the volume is maximum 400 g, there cannot be an explosion of such force ...
                1. 0
                  13 August 2021 17: 18
                  I agree that it's crazy .. but let's see what they say in the end .. taking into account the fact that I think the bus was still not on gas and did not even catch fire, as usual with an explosion, there are few other official options left ..
                  I saw the driver of the interview immediately after the explosion - he says - there was no gas - diesel .. and why would a hired employee shield the management?
              3. +3
                14 August 2021 15: 38
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                Now it's official: "A portable primus-type balloon exploded at one of the passengers of the bus in Voronezh

                and what is not a lighter?
      2. -12
        13 August 2021 10: 40
        Quote: Ros 56
        taking into account the threats of the Bandera supporters, one can assume anything.
        Amertsy gave 7 billion to the collapse of Russia .... And the money has already gone!
        1. -2
          13 August 2021 13: 43
          Yes, if you slow down the video, you can see how the biden from the bus rushed past the stop
          1. +1
            13 August 2021 14: 35
            Quote: Revival
            biden

            Biden is old for such things, but for green pieces of paper there are many who want to sell the secret of hypersound, cut a hose, plant a bomb. And there is no need to make jokes about the tragedy.
            1. -2
              13 August 2021 14: 47
              First, do not write nonsense about this explosion on the bus:
              "About this the Americans have allocated money."

              "And you don't have to make jokes about the tragedy."

              It’s a pity that you don’t grasp the simple meaning, that my comment related to this stupidity: "The Ameris gave 7 billion for the collapse of Russia .... And the money has already gone!",
              And not to the tragedy itself
              1. 0
                13 August 2021 14: 51
                Can you read? If so, read it carefully!
      3. for
        +4
        13 August 2021 10: 43
        Quote: Ros 56
        diesel engines do not work on gas,

        How it works.
      4. +1
        13 August 2021 10: 47
        Quote: Ros 56
        diesel engines do not work on gas,

        this company has already been caught on an uncertified installation of gas equipment
        1. +2
          13 August 2021 11: 50
          i think if it was installed there. anything that remains of him will be found
          1. +1
            13 August 2021 12: 30
            Quote: Graz
            i think if it was installed there. anything that remains of him will be found


            Here's something, ah cylinders definitely do not evaporate Yes and they are not so difficult to find in order to immediately say unambiguously whether there was gas on the bus or not ...
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      6. +3
        13 August 2021 11: 13
        Miracles do not happen, diesel engines do not work on gas

        1. 0
          13 August 2021 12: 48
          I confess I didn’t know, because I didn’t come across it, but on a PAZik, as a rule, the engine was from GAZ-53.
        2. 0
          14 August 2021 14: 45
          it could have been a gasoline engine
      7. +2
        13 August 2021 11: 17
        diesel engines do not work on gas

        Yuri Yuri, how can they not work, you would at least google something.
        The main gas samopal is just under the diesel engine.
        1. +4
          13 August 2021 11: 35
          Cylinders with methane are placed on the roof of the bus, but propane is not used with diesel?
          1. -1
            13 August 2021 11: 51
            Quote: ASAD
            Cylinders with methane are placed on the roof of the bus, but propane is not used with diesel?

            It is fully used - in our region all private passenger transport is powered by propane
            1. +2
              13 August 2021 11: 53
              Diesel?!
              1. +1
                13 August 2021 12: 29
                Did you know that minibuses Renault and Mercedes are diesel ???? For a long time, there are no people who want to travel on gasoline with large volumes of traffic ...
            2. +1
              13 August 2021 17: 12
              "It is fully used - in our region all private passenger transport is powered by propane"
              propane is not used on diesel engines, only methane, a lot of cylinders are usually placed on the roof
          2. 0
            13 August 2021 13: 33
            Quote: ASAD
            Cylinders with methane are placed on the roof of the bus

            this is if everyone is doing it according to their minds, and if on the left they could be stuck in the cabin
            1. +1
              13 August 2021 17: 14
              "if everything is done according to the mind, but if on the left they could have stuck in the cabin"
              six hefty cylinders in the not at all spacious interior of the groove? plus fittings, plus fastenings?
              1. 0
                13 August 2021 18: 24
                firstly not necessarily 6 secondly you can find a place
                1. -2
                  14 August 2021 12: 39
                  "in the first place it is not necessary 6 in the second place you can find"
                  let it be 4, you can't do less, too little gas, and even try to hide 4 in the cabin. Have you ever seen such a balloon up close?
                  1. -1
                    14 August 2021 13: 36
                    no, only you saw
                    1. -1
                      14 August 2021 14: 08
                      "no, only you saw"
                      yes, I understand, you are just ready to potrendet. but it's hard for you to think with your head
                  2. +1
                    14 August 2021 13: 44
                    Quote: aglet
                    even try to hide 4 in the cabin
                    eat don't slap




                    1. 0
                      14 August 2021 14: 15
                      "no, only you saw"
                      it was about the cabin, would you take a bus like that? me not. it was about a secret installation. and you have half a photo with propane, by the way
                      1. 0
                        14 August 2021 18: 53
                        Quote: aglet
                        it was about the cabin, would you take a bus like that?

                        are you blind or playing a fool, the last two photos of gas in the cabin
                      2. +1
                        15 August 2021 12: 04
                        Quote: aglet
                        ... and you have half a photo with propane, by the way
                        oops ...
                        Quote: aglet
                        propane is not used on diesel engines,

                        For you personally - we have the nearest methane gas station in the regional center, 300 km, and propane 2 in the city.
                        Guess at once - what gas do minibuses use here?
                        And if it does not come to you from once - 2 propane tanks are placed behind the last row of seats, and refuel on the highway
                        1. -1
                          16 August 2021 15: 10
                          "For you personally - we have the nearest methane filling station in the regional center, 300 km away, and 2 propane gas stations in the city"
                          For you personally - propane is not used on diesel engines
                        2. +1
                          16 August 2021 21: 41
                          Quote: aglet
                          For you personally - propane is not used on diesel engines

                          fuck off, tired
                          before you shake at least something on the topic, read
                          LPG operation on a diesel engine
                          The fact is that diesel fuel is ignited by pressure, while gas does not burn under such conditions. The process goes like this: first, a reduced portion of diesel is supplied, which serves as an igniter, and then gas is injected. At the same time, gas injectors work in parallel with diesel ones.

                          The gas-to-diesel ratio depends on the speed: the lower the engine speed, the more diesel fuel is injected; in practice, the ratio is 50/50 when it comes to propane. Methane allows increasing the gas fraction up to 75-80%. The best indicators in favor of gas are shown when driving on the highway.

                          https://cngas.ru/lpg_gas_engines/
                          https://gboshnik.ru/gbo-na-dizel-vozmozhno-li-eto-plyusyi-i-minusyi-ustanovki-gbo-na-dizelnyiy-dvigatel/
                        3. -1
                          18 August 2021 09: 35
                          "Methane allows you to increase"
                          I'm trying to put into your head that the diesel works on compressed methaneand you keep shaking your bullshit
                        4. +1
                          18 August 2021 10: 24
                          tired, diesel ALSO WORKS ON PROPANE, fuck off and don't get it anymore on this topic
                        5. -1
                          25 August 2021 13: 28
                          "I'm tired, the diesel ALSO WORKS ON PROPANE, fuck off and don't get it anymore on this topic"
                          diesel on methane is 1,5 times more efficient, besides, methane is 2 times cheaper. that's why they put methane on diesel engines, not propane. so get off, specialist
                        6. +1
                          17 August 2021 07: 09
                          Quote: aglet
                          "For you personally - we have the nearest methane filling station in the regional center, 300 km away, and 2 propane gas stations in the city"
                          For you personally - propane is not used on diesel engines

                          And our minibuses are not in the know, so they put on their minibuses intercity diesel LPG LPG propane
                        7. +1
                          17 August 2021 07: 24
                          Quote: aglet
                          "For you personally - we have the nearest methane filling station in the regional center, 300 km away, and 2 propane gas stations in the city"
                          For you personally - propane is not used on diesel engines

                          And our minibuses don't know about it and they go ......... On propane ... On diesel minibuses international ...
                        8. -1
                          16 August 2021 16: 23
                          "And if it doesn't come to you from once - 2 propane tanks are placed behind the last row of seats, and refuel on the highway."
                          location of cylinders with propane or methane, is determined by the technical specifications for the installation of LPG, if these conditions allow, propane cylinders can be installed in the cabin. I, for example, have a cylinder in the trunk. but again, for those who are in an armored train, the diesel engine runs on compressed methane... pressure in a cylinder with propane is 16 atm. in a cylinder with methane - 300 atm. there seems to be a slight difference? in addition, no gas cylinders were found in the groove. or have you already found it?
                          in order for the gas-air mixture to explode, the required concentration of this mixture, from 5% to 15%, is required. more or less will not explode. but this mixture itself will not explode, an initiating charge is needed, or a powerful electric spark, or an open flame, or a sharp rise in temperature. was it on that bus?
                  3. 0
                    14 August 2021 13: 46
                    Quote: aglet
                    and even try to hide 4 in the cabin. Have you ever seen such a balloon up close?

                    1. -3
                      14 August 2021 14: 16
                      it's propane and it's not in the cabin
                      1. +1
                        14 August 2021 18: 52
                        Quote: aglet
                        it's propane and it's not in the cabin
                        I don't even know what to tell you, the MOST of cars driving just on propane and this is just in the cabin, open your eyes
                        1. -3
                          16 August 2021 15: 12
                          "MOST of cars driving just on propane and it's just in the cabin, open your eyes"
                          that's right, these are carburetor cars, and some have cylinders in the cabin, some have them. diesels run only on compressed methane
                        2. +1
                          16 August 2021 17: 35
                          everything, calm down, you and the photo were posted and everything else
                        3. -3
                          16 August 2021 17: 38
                          "everything, calm down, you and the photo were posted and everything else"
                          Are these photos connected with something? well, with that groove? and the rest is what? then you are confusing gases? and chemistry and physics were not taught?
                        4. +1
                          16 August 2021 21: 42
                          Forgive me for two years on the forum you could not master the services of the site, but at the same time, erase from yourself you do not know that, everything, the topic is closed, do not bother me anymore
                        5. -1
                          25 August 2021 13: 30
                          "that's it, the topic is closed, don't bother me anymore"
                          venerable, and who are you to close the topic?
                        6. 0
                          25 August 2021 14: 32
                          poke a stick into the manure
                        7. -1
                          25 August 2021 19: 19
                          "you will stick a stick in the manure"
                          that is, into you? or in you?
                          "fuck off and don't get it"
                          how about manure?
        2. -2
          14 August 2021 14: 46
          "The main gas samopal is just under the diesel engine."
          it's compressed methane
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    3. -6
      13 August 2021 10: 38
      Something strange infa. They say gas, but the minibus is diesel. The version with the terrorist attack is not yet the main one.
      1. +4
        13 August 2021 11: 19
        And gas, in your opinion, in which engine is used on the car?
        Gas turbines?
        1. +3
          13 August 2021 12: 02
          Quote: bk316
          And gas, in your opinion, in which engine is used on the car?
          Gas turbines?

          I share information, but do not approve. I do not need to spread the fair you are mine
          1. +1
            13 August 2021 12: 08
            I share information, do not approve

            If you just share, then this is what it means BUT
            They say gas,but diesel minibus.


            Do you understand what I mean?
            If the gas is on the minibus, it should be diesel.
            Therefore, I asked, WHAT ELSE ENGINE MAY BE ON A PASIK RECOVERED TO GAS?
            Let's go, google and answer my question.
            1. +3
              13 August 2021 12: 13
              Quote: bk316
              AND WHAT ELSE ENGINE MAY BE ON A PASIK RECOVERED FOR GAS?

              Colleague, maybe gasoline!)) But this, in principle, does not change anything. hi
              1. +2
                13 August 2021 12: 40
                Colleague, maybe gasoline!)) But this, in principle, does not change anything

                There is such an option.
                Changes nothing. laughing
            2. +2
              13 August 2021 12: 32
              Quote: bk316
              Therefore, I asked, WHAT ELSE ENGINE MAY BE ON A PASIK RECOVERED TO GAS?

              What is the difference if the PAZ has not been altered, the engine is diesel.
              But judging by the explosion, it is very similar to a bulk mixture.
              The absence of striking elements, tearing of clothes, deformation of the main supporting frame and breaking of the skin. With such an explosion power, the explosive device would simply have tore the bus through fires and there would have been an order of magnitude more casualties.
              1. +3
                13 August 2021 12: 43
                So we agreed with you. laughing
                I apologize if I was harsh.
                For me, the main point is the lack of submunitions.
                But I will repeat to the specialist to distinguish on the spot a volumetric explosion of a gas mixture from an IED probably about 5 minutes. And here we are doing fortune-telling ...
        2. +1
          13 August 2021 17: 15
          "And in your opinion gas is used in which car engine?"
          it depends on what gas. do you know that two types of gas are used on cars?
      2. +2
        13 August 2021 11: 36
        If you watch the video with the moment of the explosion, you can see that the explosion took place in the technical cavity to the left, outward and all the power was directed, otherwise there would have been more victims. And so, the most injured were those who were above the technical compartment. The main blow was taken by the internal bulkheads, this explains the rapid leaving of the bus by a large group of people immediately after, as can be seen in the video from the recorder. So, with a high degree of probability, we can talk about a malfunction of the gas equipment.
        1. +1
          13 August 2021 11: 40
          So, with a high degree of probability, we can talk about a malfunction of the gas equipment.

          Well, I won't say so from the video, but it doesn't take much time to distinguish an explosion of gas equipment from a gas equipment on the spot.
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      1. +5
        13 August 2021 10: 53
        Quote: paco.soto
        Video of the explosion on the bus.

    5. -8
      13 August 2021 10: 52
      Soon September 19th, so the diesel engine exploded
    6. +5
      13 August 2021 10: 52
      By the way, there are still no official results of the investigation into the explosion in Magnitogorsk. Soon it will be three years. They seem to be hoping that we have forgotten. We remember.
      1. +2
        13 August 2021 11: 08
        Quote: DenVB
        By the way, there are still no official results of the investigation into the explosion in Magnitogorsk. Soon it will be three years. They seem to be hoping that we have forgotten. We remember.

        Unfortunately, not all and not all are remembered. Many have already forgotten who, when and why raised the retirement age, there are even some individuals who claim that this was done by the Reptilian Freemasons.
        In addition, the media now began to call the explosions "pops", like "there was a pop of gas", I hope why this is happening is understandable.
    7. -2
      13 August 2021 10: 52
      It seems to me alone that there was a double explosion, if we take as a count the car on the left, and what is at Pazik in front of the left rear wheel, judging by the torn up floor, there is the epicenter of the explosion.
    8. -8
      13 August 2021 10: 53
      The guilty company has already been chosen - the carrier company, there are no first aid kits, the tread on the tires is different
      1. -3
        13 August 2021 12: 20
        Again, the version was changed: - "According to preliminary data, a gas cylinder could have exploded in one of the passengers of the bus in Voronezh, a source in law enforcement said."
        Also, a video from the recorder of a car passing nearby appeared on the TGC, where the moment of the explosion is clearly visible
        1. +1
          13 August 2021 12: 40
          a gas cylinder could explode, a law enforcement source said

          As they lie primitively, if the balloon would have long ago said in the affirmative, well, it has not evaporated.
    9. -5
      13 August 2021 10: 54
      It is difficult for investigators to distinguish an equipment explosion from a terrorist attack. You need to think about the numbers before September 20.
    10. -7
      13 August 2021 11: 14
      I think all the same that a terrorist attack
      1. +5
        13 August 2021 11: 21
        Some kind of dubious terrorist attack. There are no striking elements, the explosion is at the end, and not in the middle of the cabin (which would be more logical). And the explosion itself is late in the evening, and not in the morning or when everyone is returning home from work.
        1. -10
          13 August 2021 11: 24
          Well, there are no other versions. Gas was initially said that there was no gas, it is diesel. But now they will sculpt a humpback with gas 100%
          1. +3
            13 August 2021 11: 43
            Gas was initially said that there was no gas, it is diesel.

            One more. am
            Be educated here.
            https://gbomotor.ru/poleznoe/gbo-na-dizelnom-dvigatele
            1. 0
              13 August 2021 11: 48
              Where to put so many cylinders there? Or did they put one there? Then what's the point of HBO costs 200k. Not profitable. If it was on gas, then the cylinders are placed on the roof.
              1. +1
                13 August 2021 12: 04
                Where to put so many cylinders there?

                There, at the groove in the back under the platform, there is a niche. A 3-4 cylinder will fit.
                Why was the DB placed not on the roof, but under the floor?
                And whatever is visible, it’s illegal.
                And it seems they have already been fined.
                200k for such a bus pays off very quickly.
                This is not a car.
                No one has been using an IED of such power without striking elements for a long time.
                The bastards learned ...
                1. -5
                  13 August 2021 12: 13
                  The preliminary investigation has already answered. That the balloon exploded, but the passenger ... guys, this is the finish line ... I think there should be no questions ...
                2. -1
                  14 August 2021 13: 03
                  "There's a niche at the back of the groove under the platform under the platform. A 3-4 cylinder will fit."
                  Have you ever seen these cylinders alive?
          2. 0
            13 August 2021 15: 24
            In the news, infa slipped through that the receiver jerked. In principle, a very plausible version, given that there are no damaging elements and fire
    11. 0
      13 August 2021 11: 17
      Tin-plate belay

      Well, if there were no submunitions, there are always remnants of explosives and their products ... this is strange. Diesel does not explode at all ... that even in the second our B2 and its generation were accepted by us before the petrol 3 and 4 Fritzes.
      Only if there was a gas cylinder, and then it was strange, because they said that no, and it didn’t look like

      Condolences to the families of the dead and wounded love
      1. -4
        13 August 2021 11: 18
        So no one before the elections and will not say that a terrorist attack. All will be classified as always and written off for gas.
        1. -3
          13 August 2021 11: 27
          Yes .... I wanted this election .... if not GDP, then the line of the "party" has long been clear. I will not say that I am satisfied with the government ... but I can say that we have emerged from the "dashing 90s", we supply the army, have become our own in the BV, etc. Yes, small business is being strangled, etc. these problems exist. But we do not go to the store with coupons ... although it is not easy for me to support one child in Moscow with my wife, consider that I work almost round the clock and receive far from 100 rubles.

          It doesn't look like a terrorist attack ... pure explosives are obtained .... in such an amount, only ammonal, etc. it is easy to make it yourself even now, about sovetskoe time, and I'm not talking about when saltpeter could be bought in a store, and at least eat aluminum. Yes, even good checkers to get it was not a problem ... we have wolf hunters not only in Kazakhstan dragged wolf canister, but also a couple of checkers to scare away or light a fire
        2. +2
          13 August 2021 11: 50
          Quote: Prax1
          So no one before the elections and will not say that a terrorist attack. All will be classified as always and written off for gas.

          Aren't you strange that a "terrorist attack" - and people run out of the bus on their own? Shellless and shatterproof IED ?! What kind of terrorist would sculpt such stupidity?
          1. -1
            13 August 2021 12: 48
            And then what? To scare the nails and Danila can ... and what could explode? engine? no ... gas cylinder did not seem to be confirmed
      2. 0
        13 August 2021 12: 42
        Quote: Split
        Diesel doesn't explode at all ...

        Diesel fuel vapors explode.
      3. +1
        13 August 2021 15: 13
        Quote: Split
        Diesel does not explode at all ... that even in the second our B2 and its generation were accepted by us before the petrol 3 and 4 Fritzes.

        Here's an offtopic in this thread, but ...
        Diesel itself does not explode (like gasoline), but the T-34's empty tank in the fighting compartment exploded so that it ripped out the armor plates. (Caution - a lot of text)

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    13. -6
      13 August 2021 12: 22
      There is probably a Ukrainian trace in the case. But the authorities will not tell us about it. Ukraine is a state where there are legally reconnaissance and sabotage groups that regularly carry out actions in Crimea and Donbass. All militia leaders were blown up in Donbass. And no one in the West declares Ukraine a terrorist state or announces sanctions to Ukraine.
    14. +1
      13 August 2021 13: 12
      Someone was carrying something, saltpeter, for example, the usual carelessness ... Legs were next to a bag or a bag, something like that ...
      1. 0
        14 August 2021 13: 05
        "Someone was carrying something, saltpeter for example,"
        try blow this saltpeter
    15. -1
      13 August 2021 14: 05
      I can assume that the battery exploded. When recharging, hydrogen is released.
    16. +2
      13 August 2021 18: 25
      strange. and the woman. literally in a few seconds got off the bus. didn’t even crouch at the explosion.
      1. 0
        14 August 2021 12: 45
        "did not even crouch in the explosion."
        and didn't even turn around
    17. +3
      13 August 2021 19: 11
      The non-brothers are already vying with each other on their branches boasting of the terrorist attack in the camp of the "Akhressor", tearing accordions and dancing with joy, promising to arrange this in Moscow ...
      Well, what should you call them after that?
      UKRAINIANS!
    18. +2
      13 August 2021 22: 41
      Here is a photo where the epicenter of the explosion is, as it were, visible.



      But here under the bottom are the air system cylinders.



      And an air cylinder under pressure, but with admixtures of oil, or fuel, that is still a bomb.
      1. -1
        13 August 2021 23: 20
        And an air cylinder under pressure, but with admixtures of oil, or fuel, that is still a bomb.

        Sheer nonsense. The pressure in the receiver is 10-12 atm as in a bus wheel. And where is the oil? There is no oxygen in the receiver. The compressor cannot pump above 12 atm. Explosives are needed to explode like this.
        Fantasies have already played out for some. I will tell you for the gifted - there is also water in the receiver ... and this is a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen ... from the series Let's go to the blue sea, they lit the blue sea.
        1. 0
          13 August 2021 23: 39
          Is it news for you that the fuel-air mixture can explode? However, you skipped chemistry at school in vain.
          I will make you one more discovery, in an empty fuel tank there is generally atmospheric pressure. However, this and fuel vapor is sufficient.
          However, it seems that due to your youth, you have not yet reached the subject of chemistry. ))
          1. 0
            14 August 2021 12: 51
            "Is it news to you that the fuel-air mixture can explode? However, you were in vain to skip chemistry at school."
            there is just air in the compressor and receiver, by itself it never will not burst
            and even an empty tank won't just explode
            1. 0
              14 August 2021 22: 31
              And you don't know the fact that the oil goes there?
              1. 0
                16 August 2021 15: 17
                "And you don't know the fact that oil is being sent there?"
                Well? it got there, what's next?
          2. 0
            14 August 2021 12: 54
            "However, it seems that due to your youth you have not even reached the subject of chemistry.))"
            you seem to have not learned arithmetic either. and chemistry and physics for you in general, terra ingognita
            1. 0
              14 August 2021 13: 13
              it seems that arithmetic was not taught. and chemistry and physics for you in general, terra ingognita

              The fact that people call the receiver a balloon already speaks of technical ignorance.
              1. 0
                14 August 2021 14: 19
                "The fact that people call the receiver a balloon already speaks of technical ignorance."
                you will not believe, but the receiver and the balloon are one and the same
                1. +1
                  14 August 2021 14: 28
                  a receiver and a cylinder are one and the same

                  I will not believe, the balloon is a balloon, football, and the receiver is an air receiver, so more precisely
                  1. 0
                    14 August 2021 15: 29
                    "I will not believe, a balloon is a balloon, football,"
                    if you think at the level of a soccer ball (football), then don't believe it, but ask any specialist what a balloon is and what a receiver is
                    1. +1
                      14 August 2021 22: 42
                      For virtual literate:
            2. +1
              14 August 2021 22: 34
              Explaining for sofa strategists, there is always oil in the air system, it gets there by means of a compressor. To do this, there is even provided for the bleeding of oil condensate.
              1. 0
                16 August 2021 15: 15
                "For this, there is even provided for bleeding of oil condensate."
                not only oil, but mainly water condensate
      2. +1
        14 August 2021 12: 44
        Here is a photo where the epicenter of the explosion is, as it were, visible.

        There, the little girl jumped up. But these are hardly cylinders, they are still under the floor, it is not concrete of course, but part of the energy should have been absorbed and reflected down. And the second moment, there is a flash on the video, and why would the pneumatic mixture burn, even if there is oil and it, theoretically, could burn (which is very doubtful), what became the igniter is not clear. Most likely it was here, but on the floor in the cabin, something exploded in the passenger's luggage. This "something" did not have GGE and had a low detonation velocity (clothes did not rip off), plus a relatively high explosiveness, the interior blew out like a balloon. Kmk, very similar to saltpeter, damaged packaging, in a package, a spark of static and hello ... In general, this is all speculation, the specialists will figure it out (probably), but the cylinders themselves are unlikely.
        1. -1
          14 August 2021 14: 21
          "Kmk, very similar to saltpeter, damaged packaging, in a bag, a spark of static and hello ..."
          This is ridiculous
          1. 0
            14 August 2021 15: 17
            What exactly is funny then? If about saltpeter, you can remember Beirut, there was no funny thing, "only saltpeter", 10kt, and this is after 6 (!) Years of storage ... If about a spark ... I xs, it's just an assumption, from what there detonation could have happened, who knows. A conventional summer resident could easily carry a kilogram of 5 ammonium nitrate, the same fertilizer ... Hot, dry, fresh, dry, saltpeter - all conditions ... Again, this is just an assumption, nothing more.
            1. -1
              14 August 2021 15: 24
              "If about a spark ... I xs, it's just an assumption, from what there could be a detonation, who knows. A conventional summer resident could easily carry 5 kilograms of ammonium nitrate, the same fertilizer"
              if xs, then no need to say, in order to detonate the saltpeter, you need at least an RDG5 fuse. or 200 grams of tol in addition, if you do not explode 5kg
              "Again, this is just a guess, nothing more."
              if you don't know, there is nothing to assume
              1. 0
                14 August 2021 15: 34
                to detonate saltpeter you need a minimum fuse RDG5

                There were enough firecrackers in Beirut. And tone it down a little, you're not in your kitchen.
                1. -1
                  14 August 2021 15: 39
                  "Beirut had enough firecrackers. And tone it down a little, you're not in your kitchen."
                  in Beirut, a sharp rise in temperature, gas cutting of the door, caked (6 years) and damp saltpeter were enough. and at least not static laughing electricity. don't like it - don't read
                  and 5kg of saltpeter from a summer resident explodes differently than 6 thousand tons in Beirut
      3. 0
        14 August 2021 12: 48
        "And an air cylinder under pressure, but with admixtures of oil, or fuel, that's still a bomb."
        yes, not a bomb, there are so many safety valves, and the compressor simply will not pump such pressure that the receiver explodes
        1. 0
          14 August 2021 13: 23
          I once saw the consequences of an explosion of a gas-air mixture, the whole room was covered in soot, and a balloon filled from a gas stove exploded.
          And I saw the aftermath of a coal dust explosion. A welder inside an empty coal bin has managed to cook. I got out myself, went to the locker room, but 80% of the burns were, died in the hospital.
          It does not seem that there was a volumetric explosion, if there was a container with gas, they immediately reported, and so far only versions.
          Yes, I also saw an oxygen cylinder that flew away after the explosion by 50 meters. There was no such "rocket" there.
          1. -1
            14 August 2021 13: 58
            "I once saw the consequences of an explosion of an air-gas mixture,"
            did it explode on its own, after emergence, or something else?
            1. +1
              14 August 2021 14: 32
              Student experiments, two close-minded people pumped a ball from a gas stove in a dorm kitchen to the maximum size and sent it to a gas stove. The windows flew open, the glass flew out, and the kitchen turned black with dangling soot flakes.
          2. 0
            14 August 2021 14: 03
            "And saw the aftermath of a coal dust explosion."
            both coal dust and textile dust are extremely dangerous in the sense of an explosion. your welder was full ... to cook something in the hopper
            ". Yes, I also saw an oxygen cylinder that flew away after the explosion, 50 meters."
            he just tore out the valve, so he flew away. jet propulsion, you know
        2. 0
          14 August 2021 22: 44
          In a sofa setting, yes. But reality comes with surprises.
    19. 0
      14 August 2021 23: 03
      According to the local media, there was information that a gas cylinder of not large capacity exploded, let's see what will be reported next

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