Terms of delivery of the Ministry of Defense of the next Mi-38 helicopters announced

The Russian Ministry of Defense will receive the next two newest Mi-38 helicopters in 2022 as part of a contract for the supply of helicopters signed in 2020. This was stated by the general director of Russian Helicopters Andrei Boginsky.

Currently, the troops have two Mi-38Ts received by the military in 2019 for trial operation. Next year, in 2022, they will be joined by two more new helicopters, the contract for which was signed at the Army-2020 forum. As noted in the Ministry of Defense, the operation of helicopters is proceeding successfully.

Today, the first two Mi-38s are in trial operation in the army. We will transfer two more helicopters by the end of 2022

- leads RIA News Boginsky's words.

Earlier, there was no official information on the supply of Mi-38s to the troops, but in June a source in the defense industry complex said that the military would receive the third Mi-38 by the end of this year, and in the VIP-cabin version. There is no information in what performance the helicopters promised by the general director of the company will be delivered. Last year, it was reported about the development of new modifications based on the Mi-38T, including a command post and a helicopter with weapons.

The Mi-38T (Airborne) is a military version of the civilian Mi-38 and occupies a niche between the Mi-8 and Mi-26. Designed for round-the-clock airlift of personnel of up to 40 people with disembarkation to unprepared sites, evacuation of the wounded (up to 12 people in a recumbent position and up to 30 in a seated position, accompanied by two paramedics), transportation of goods weighing up to five tons in a cargo compartment or on external sling.

The flight range of the Mi-38T in a transport configuration is up to 1000 kilometers (with additional fuel tanks). The maximum take-off weight is 15,6 tons. The maximum speed is 300 km / h. Flights can be operated at altitudes up to 6300 meters. Russian TV7-117V engines and a digital flight and navigation complex were installed.

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[soul]

The restoration of competencies is not a quick matter, but it is necessary.

[Wedmak]

This is not a recovery, we have always done an excellent job with helicopters. But the model is new, which has been waiting for a long time, just between the Mi-8 and Mi-26.

[And Makarov]

Quote: Wedmak

This is not a recovery, we have always done a great job in helicopters.

The engine building had to be restored. And the car, yes, from a new niche.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Wedmak

This is not a recovery, we have always done an excellent job with helicopters. But the model is new, which has been waiting for a long time, just between the Mi-8 and Mi-26.

By the way, do you know how things are going with the import substitution of the engine for the Mi-26? PD-12V seems to be created on the basis of PD-14 technologies, but there is little information on this topic.

[Wedmak]

There is little information about the PD series. PD-8 is on its way, it is very much needed for the Be-200 (because of this, the production of the aircraft is worthwhile) and the SSJ-100, it seems like next year there will be already, in the 23rd certification. About PD-12 I know no more than you do. It seems like they are planning to roll it out for testing in the 23rd year. Then everything is in a fog.

[bayard]

I think there will be no sooner than the engine for the "Super-Jet-100", they seem to be two in one.
And I remember the layout of the Mi-38 from the Soviet air exhibitions, from 1986 to 1987 ... We just remembered it a few years ago.
And such small parties (per year) seem to have everything from the same - motor hunger. For them, the same turboshaft engines as for the Il-112 and Il-114 go ... they go with difficulty.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Wedmak

which they have been waiting for for a long time, just between the Mi-8 and the Mi-26

It is closer to the Mi-8/17. The carrying capacity is per ton more, the speed is 30 km / h more, the engines, in general, are the same ... Perhaps this is the future of medium transport helicopters. Although the 38th is much more in terms of passenger capacity. 40 versus 26. We can assume that it fills the gap.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It is closer to the Mi-8/17. The carrying capacity is per ton more, the speed is 30 km / h more, the engines, in general, are the same ...

Engines are not the same:

A feature of the development of the TV7-117V family of engines is to ensure helicopter flight safety in extreme situations by introducing emergency modes with a power of 2800-3750 hp. A new digital electronic control and monitoring system of the FADEC type, created on the basis of a single unit for automatic regulation and control, is installed on the engine.
Universal platform
The engine is developed in two versions:
with the power take-off shaft leading out - the TV7-117V (VM) engine for the Mi-38 helicopter and its modifications;
with rear power take-off - TV7-117VK engine for modernization of Mi-28, Ka-50 / Ka-52 helicopters.

http://www.klimov.ru/production/helicopter/TV7-117V/

[Romario_Argo]

a week ago, over the Moscow Ring Road near Lyubertsy, where Tomilino saw a flying Mi-8 I do not know what kind of experimental modification, but it looks like AMTSh
with NPPU-28 module with 30-mm automatic cannon
exactly under the cockpit, only the ammunition boxes on the sides are larger, apparently under 500 shells

will roll out a surprise to us soon

[Romario_Argo]

If launched into series, then for the DShB just to carry out helicopter landing
And the presence of a 30-mm cannon and armor on the Mi-8AMTSh will equate it with an infantry fighting vehicle with excessive fire support for the landing force, with the ability to fire not only along the course of the helicopter
and escort from the Mi-35 or Mi-28N or Ka-52 redistributes targets more optimally

[Nazar]

Wedmak - This "new" model is already forty years old, But then this car was with imported engines. They were able to install their engines - well done, as they say - better later than never. He will go to the army, in an emergency, maybe some other department will come in handy, but to go for export, as MI-8 sold out at one time, this machine does not seem to shine, it's too late - over the past thirty years, foreign analogues have long occupied the etunish.

[Real Pilot]

I had a chance to look at the production of this machine at the Kazan Helicopter Plant. In a state of intermediate readiness, the car is already impressive. There were new composite blades nearby. The culture of production at Kazan Helicopters is worthy, the plant is perfectly equipped ... The workshops have been renovated, there is something to be glad about.

And it was in 2012. That is, the process is really not fast. And, although I haven't been there for a long time, I'm sure it got even better!
At last, the serial Mi-38Ts went on, pilot production went into trial operation.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Wedmak

This is not a recovery, we have always done an excellent job with helicopters. But the model is new, which has been waiting for a long time, just between the Mi-8 and Mi-26.

Its engines are like the Mi-8, aren't they weak for the increased size?

[Orange bigg]

And what? We must look not at the age of the car, but at its performance characteristics and reliability corresponding to today's needs. You don't have to go far. The same Mi-24 is still relevant despite the age of the car. Video from Syria at the link below.

The Syrian military has published unique footage of escorting a military convoy of the SAA in one of the local deserts, in which you can see how the Syrian Air Force Mi-24 attack helicopter flies at an ultra-low altitude - literally a few centimeters above the ground.

In the video presented, you can see how the Syrian Air Force combat vehicle is escorting a military convoy of the SAA, apparently during a special military operation against terrorists of the "Islamic State" (a terrorist group banned in Russia - ed.). The skill of the Syrian pilot of the rotary-wing aircraft catches applause - the helicopter flies just a few centimeters above the ground.

The Mi-24 helicopters are very popular among the Syrian troops, as these combat vehicles have proven themselves to be successful in defeating both single targets and the destruction of entire groups of terrorists.

https://avia.pro/news/polyot-siriyskogo-mi-24-v-neskolkih-santimetrah-nad-zemlyoy-voshitil-socseti

[Wedmak]

It even outwardly already looks outdated.

What should a modern transport and passenger helicopter look like?

[Victorio]

Quote: Wedmak

It even outwardly already looks outdated.

What should a modern transport and passenger helicopter look like?

===
) also wanted to ask. can landing gear?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Wedmak

It even outwardly already looks outdated.

What should a modern transport and passenger helicopter look like?

Painted in glamorous pink and lilac colors

[sifgame]

Outwardly, it looks drop dead, a classic of the domestic helicopter industry, and the fact that the novelty is not new, well, so the enemies tried, the years that you indicated are remarkable in this regard.

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Pavel57

Quote: Wedmak

This is not a recovery, we have always done an excellent job with helicopters. But the model is new, which has been waiting for a long time, just between the Mi-8 and Mi-26.

Its engines are like the Mi-8, aren't they weak for the increased size?

Let me fix it a bit.
His engines are different, specially designed for him.
TV7-117, and on the Mi-8 TV3-117 (previously TV2-117) ...
The power is different, the dimension is different, new technical solutions have been applied. The control system is new.
And no Ukraine with Motor Sich ...

The TV7-117 V engine has been developed and is mass-produced by UEC-Klimov JSC. The turboshaft engine with a free turbine is designed for installation on multipurpose helicopters of the Mi-38 type. The design and fully responsible FADEC electronic automatic control and monitoring system provides high power with low fuel consumption and increased flight reliability. There are no analogues in this class of engines in terms of fuel efficiency and take-off power.

TV7-117 V has a takeoff power of 2800 hp. with. (in emergency mode - 3140 hp), dry weight - 435 kg, the assigned resource of the main parts according to the resource management system (RMS2) - 2110 flight cycles.

[exo]

Haven't seen any photographs of him with suspended weapons, or will it be a clean transport?

[Orange bigg]

The Mi-38 is a medium-heavy transport aircraft with tasks similar to those of the Mi-8. Attack helicopters are Mi-28NM and Ka-52M.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Nice car, needed. And it looks like there is a reserve for modernization.

[Varaga]

Mi-38 - where the Mi-8 is small, but the Mi-26 is great.

[sustav75]

TV7-117 is a Russian gas turbine engine developed by the Klimov company, on the basis of which a whole family of turboprop (TVD) and turboshaft (TVaD) engines was created for use as a power plant for airplanes, helicopters, as well as engines for small ships and ships. It is one of the most economical engines in its class [4].

[sustav75]

The start of serial production [5] of the Mi-38 helicopter in Kazan, at the Kazan Helicopter Plant, was planned for 2015 [24] [25]; at the end of 2014, active preparations were under way for production, the fuselage of the first serial Mi-38 was laid [26]. In August 2015, at MAKS-2015, a contract was signed with the UEC for the supply by 2019 of 50 TV7-117V engines (for 25 vehicles - two engines per unit) [27]. However, at the beginning of 2017, the serial production of helicopters has not yet begun! - Shameful! Liars and stuff ...