The US Department of Defense said they are going to detect enemy hypersonic missiles using the ISS

The Space Development Agency (SDA), part of the US Department of Defense, is about to launch an experimental payload, which was developed in conjunction with the Missile Defense Agency (MDA). The payload is called the Prototype Infrared Payload (PIRPL). The purpose of the experiment is to further explore the capabilities of detecting and tracking hypersonic missiles.

The payload is a multispectral infrared camera. In fact, it is one of many payloads being sent to the International Space Station (ISS) as part of Northrop Grumman's ISS cargo delivery mission. A Northrop Grumman press release says the Antares rocket will launch NG-16 at 17:56 pm ET from NASA's Wallops flight complex in Virginia.

The SDA argues that the main task is to track fast-moving hypersonic missiles that could pose a threat to the United States. Missile tracking is carried out through a combination of a new infrared sensor and the new HBTSS hypersonic and ballistic sensor, used to monitor both traditional ballistic missiles and hypersonic cruise missiles.

The US Department of Defense plans to launch 2022 tracking satellites and 10 data satellites in September 20, collectively forming the SDA's national defense space architecture.

At the same time, PIRPL, as Breaking Defense writes, is not intended for real missile tracking. It only has to determine the infrared background of the Earth, in order to then use it in sensors for detecting and tracking hypersonic missiles. In fact, PIRPL is a system for collecting information about the Earth's infrared background. It helps educate the military on how best to deploy tracking systems for hypersonic missiles.

This can be done by processing images in a special way.

I'm trying to remove unwanted background from a photo I took and see what's left. And what is left will show me if there was a source of bright infrared radiation there, be it a forest fire, a meteor or a hypersonic rocket,

- says an SDA employee.

It is also known that modern missile detection and tracking satellites use interference suppression techniques. But target missiles, especially hypersonic missiles, fly very fast, at Mach 5 and above, and this makes them quite difficult to track.

It is expected that PIRPL will take infrared "images" from the Cygnus module docked to the ISS. The experiment will take about three months. But when Cygnus leaves the ISS, the camera will be thrown into space to take more pictures until it burns out. This was also stated by a representative of the SDA.

At the same time, it is not entirely clear how the use of the ISS for tracking hypersonic missiles fits in with its general civil status and a memorandum on non-use for military purposes.

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[aszzz888]

At the same time, it is not entirely clear how the use of the ISS for tracking hypersonic missiles fits in with its general civil status and a memorandum on non-use for military purposes.

Aha, cosmonauts from the Russian Federation are working nearby, and the merikatos will track our rockets! Well, okay, tracked down, and then what? There is still nothing to shoot them down with, let them immediately track where the missiles hit.

[Alex777]

The article is rather controversial.
Well the camera. Well takes a photo of the infrared background of the Earth.

In fact, PIRPL is a system for collecting information about the Earth's infrared background.

They will then use this data, they will not - it is too early to say.
How this background will change over time (the camera is designed for 3 months) is also a question.
You can make some noise on the topic.
As an excuse, if necessary, can also be used.
But so far nothing terrible has happened. IMHO.

[Walking towards the light]

Yeah, it's not scary. Then they will reconsider the status of the ISS and say - "Kill the other Russians to Mother Earth. We will do whatever we want" and the "concerns" of the Russian Foreign Ministry will sprinkle and even Zakharova will joke something on Twitter and Facebook. The Americans will pick up a couple of modules. with warheads and it will be good for them.

[Alex777]

The hole there, preventively, has already been drilled ...

[Walking towards the light]

Yeah, we're all joking. Erdogan is digging a new channel (exclusively for trade) The Americans are installing hypersonic missile scanners on the ISS (only for climate control, probably, suddenly the rockets will warm up the atmosphere).

[Alex777]

Quote: Walking towards the light

.Von Erdogan digs a new channel

And tell us - why does Erdogan dig channels ?!

[Real Pilot]

No wonder the ISS project will soon take a long time!
When the participants begin to violate the basic rules for using the station, openly declare the military nature of the research, then all that remains is to scatter to separate "space apartments" ...

And in this regard, much connected with international space cooperation is becoming clear. What is not spoken about aloud, but experts understand.
And China will build its own orbital station, and Russia and the United States.

The aggressive side of human nature again takes over the mind. And the impudence with which the Americans conduct their policy both in the field and in space is no longer surprising. But an unpleasant aftertaste from such news remains.

[Trapp1st]

Will dual-use equipment be deployed on the ISS? And what could have been so? Give the astronauts a service weapon!

[NDR-791]

Quote: Trapp1st

Will military equipment be placed on the ISS? And what could be so?

It is impossible, but probably the Americans do not care, there is nothing to put pressure on them. And the more I hear about the conclusion of such gizmos: 2022 tracking satellites and 10 data satellites are to be launched in September 20, collectively forming the SDA's national defense space architecture. the more I come to the conclusion that the "third world" will begin with the launch of a carriage of nails into orbit.

[donavi49]

The carriage of nails is very small. It is necessary to seed different orbits, this time. Two for guaranteed demolition of everything, the entire available supply of Nails on the ground is hardly enough. Your conventional car of nails in the desired orbit will probably carry the desired satellite, but when? After 1,5 years? Or 25 years old? Or tomorrow?

[NDR-791]

Quote: donavi49

The carriage of nails is very small

Then add bolts and nuts too

[Wedmak]

but when? After 1,5 years? Or 25 years old? Or tomorrow?

You have seen the accuracy of the 20-ton Science module. What prevents instead of withdrawing 20 tons of self-tapping screws with the same accuracy? Moreover, they can be packed by a ton and brought out with the help of an upper stage into several orbits. You won't even need to slow down. Yes, and mark especially too.

[donavi49]

why then nails? It is wiser to fasten the assembly of individual guidance blocks with engines to the Frigate. Then everyone will go to intercept their satellite.

The problem with nails is that they are far from being an effective wartime weapon. The areas are huge even within the same orbit. In reality, the target satellite will live 5-7-10 or even 100 orbits. That in wartime it is simply unacceptable. I’m already silent, if you go to beat in high orbits. There, in general, your conditional carriage of nails will be a couple of% in statistics for 5 years. If we, again, are not talking about target interception, maneuvering space unit.

[Wedmak]

I will not say that a specialist is direct, but I think if a ton of nails flies to the satellite with a difference in speed of 200-300 km / h, it will make a sieve. It's easier than tagging a blank with an engine in each one.

If we, again, are not talking about target interception, maneuvering space unit.

Without this, there is no way, nails are just a cheaper means of destruction, allowing you to inflict 100% damage.

[donavi49]

no. There is a giant difference here:
- Spreading a ton of garbage in the target orbit is a lottery game. Undoubtedly, one of the elements will one day fall into the desired satellite. But when? Maybe in a year. Or maybe in 10. Or maybe in 50 minutes.
- Point interception. Then no nails are needed. A conventional warhead with striking elements along a cone or, in general, a kinetic striker.

[abrakadabre]

if a ton of nails flies to the satellite with a speed difference of 200-300 km / h

If a ton of nails flies to the satellite at the speed you specified, then this is a discovery that will finally revolutionize our civilization. Because the third cosmic speed in the Earth's orbit is 16,65 km / s.
So, although such nails will turn out to be clearly an intragalactic object, they will definitely not be made on Earth. And not even in the solar system.

[Wedmak]

Because the third cosmic speed in the Earth's orbit is 16,65 km / s.

If you read my post correctly, you would see the words "with a speed difference of 200-300 km / h", which means a difference in speed between the satellite and nails of 200-300 km / h. Satellites do not have armor, this is quite enough to cause irreversible damage.

[abrakadabre]

If you read my post correctly

I'm sorry, I'm sorry
The fantasy played out

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Wedmak

What prevents instead of withdrawing 20 tons of self-tapping screws with the same accuracy?

And then build and launch a space vacuum cleaner, or only Yankees fly into space?

[Wedmak]

Well ... do you need to win the war or leave the doors to space? I don't think that in a major mess there will be a choice of tools and options.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Wedmak

Well ... do you need to win the war or leave the doors to space?

I am satisfied with our position - Russia does not want war, but will not live in a "semi-occupation".

[aybolyt678]

Quote: NDR-791

I come to the conclusion that the "third world" will begin with the launch of a carriage of nails into orbit.

the third world will begin with the loss of sense of smell among cocaine addicts in the White House.

[NDR-791]

Quote: aybolyt678

the third world will begin with the loss of sense of smell among cocaine addicts in the White House.

Judging by the placement of military equipment on the ISS, the Corona Virus has long hooked their scent and carried it away with it.

[abrakadabre]

It is impossible, but probably the Americans do not care, there is nothing to put pressure on them anyway.

Well, there is nothing. You can not let in the toilet. Let the corners be marked in your module.

[loki565]

Give the astronauts a service weapon!

So they have, but at least it used to be)))

[donavi49]

There is not. Even before Rogozin was written off. The main reason is the expiration date of the ammunition. They are not produced, and the stock is expired. Rather, you can probably shoot with them, but it is no longer safe.

[loki565]

There is not. Even before Rogozin was written off. The main reason is the expiration of the expiration date of the ammunition. They are not produced, and the stock is overdue. Rather, you can probably shoot with them, but it's no longer safe

5.45 in bulk, but for the gatkosvol to make a limited batch is not a problem, there is more likely to have disappeared. Landing and modern search systems are well developed and cosmonauts do not need to "survive" for several days in the taiga

[Sanichsan]

Quote: loki565

and for the swallow barrel, making a limited batch is not a problem

Even a schoolboy is buying 12 gauge. heaps of both.
"don't listen to him Blackmore, he’s making crap for you."

[donavi49]

12 gauge is a different cartridge with a diameter of 18,5. These cartridges are the closest to 32 (well, you try to find 32 caliber hunting cartridges by the way), but even 32 caliber will not go there. There is a special cartridge, with its own weight of gunpowder, calculated recoil, etc. These special cartridges are rotten, or rather their expiration dates are out. One of the formal (and maybe real) reasons for writing off the system, since ordering a special consignment cost money. Another reason is that this pistol has never come in handy, and the new tracking and rescue means allow you to very quickly send rescuers even to an abnormal landing site.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: donavi49

you can probably shoot with them, but it is no longer safe.

How so ... The fact is stated, but nothing Chinese is offered in return (as if by the way). Or has not a contract for advertising been concluded with the local manufacturers-copiers of the shooters?

[aszzz888]

donavi49
Yesterday, 10: 11

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There is not. Even before Rogozin was written off. The main reason is the expiration of the expiration date of the ammunition. They are not produced, and the stock is overdue.

Well, I have never seen such a breathtaking post on the site !!!!!!!!!!

[aybolyt678]

Quote: loki565

So they have, but at least it used to be)))

what kind of apparatus is this in the picture ??

[aszzz888]

aybolyt678 (aybolyt678)
Today, 10: 40

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Quote: loki565
So they have, but at least it used to be)))


what kind of apparatus is this in the picture ??

You are welcome -

TP-82 - a non-automatic three-barreled hunting pistol, which was part of the SONAZ complex (small arms of a portable emergency stock) of Soviet and Russian cosmonauts for protection against dangerous animals, hunting for food and giving light signals for visual observation in the event of a landing or splashdown Type pistol
USSR country
Service history
Adopted 1986
History of production
Manufacturer Tula Arms Plant
Features
Length, mm 360 mm (670 mm with stock)
Barrel length, mm 300 mm
Width, mm 42 mm
Height, mm 150 mm (235 mm with stock)
Cartridge SN - P (Hunting cartridge 5,45x40 mm)
SN - D (Hunting cartridge 12,5x70 mm)
СН - С (Signal cartridge 12,5x70 mm)
Caliber, mm 1 barrel 5,45 mm + 2 barrels 12,5 mm

[loki565]

what kind of apparatus is this in the picture ??

Fierce karamultuk, with a machete in the butt)))

[aszzz888]

loki565
Today, 10: 06

+5
Give the astronauts a service weapon!

So they have, but at least it used to be)))

So yes, weapons for astronauts were developed right away.

TP-82 - hunting non-automatic three-barreled pistol, which was part of the SONAZ complex (small arms of a wearable emergency stock) of Soviet and Russian cosmonauts for protection from dangerous animals, hunting for food and providing light signals for visual observation in case of landing or splashdown

[diden]

there is not enough drill to drill holes in the right places

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Trapp1st

Will dual-use equipment be deployed on the ISS? And what could have been so? Give the astronauts a service weapon!

Provide enough screwdrivers.

[Region-25.rus]

Or maybe just, after another breakdown of the toilet, not to let us into ours?

[Walking towards the light]

While we are clicking with our beaks, the Americans are rewriting the rules of the game, flipping the tables of cards and loading revolvers.

[Reserve buildbat]

"At the same time, it is not entirely clear how the use of the ISS for tracking hypersonic missiles fits in with its general civil status and the memorandum on non-use for military purposes."
You don’t understand, this is different! This is not a military load, as it is intended to monitor the Earth's infrared field, and missile tracking is a side function.

[Crash]

This is not a military load, as it is designed to monitor the infrared field of the Earth, and missile tracking is a side function.

Actually, if you look at it ... Why can't a civilian watch the rocket launch? Is it spelled out somewhere?

[hrych]

My stupid version with an abnormal "controlled" inclusion of the Science engines gains logic ... turned American infrared equipment towards the Sun and burned sensitive matrices to hell

[Crash]

Also the first thought after reading the title was: "We need to throw fuel into Science"

[abrakadabre]

turned American infrared equipment towards the Sun and burned sensitive matrices to hell

What for? Just track American missile launches. Why are our cosmonauts there? We will show ours (perhaps), we will see theirs.

[Avior]

... how the use of the ISS to track hypersonic missiles fits in with its civilian status

Themselves wrote as

At the same time, PIRPL, as Breaking Defense writes, is not intended for real missile tracking. It only needs to detect the infrared background of the Earth in order to then use it in detection and tracking sensors.

[riwas]

At the same time, it is not entirely clear how the use of the ISS for tracking hypersonic missiles fits in with its general civil status and a memorandum on non-use for military purposes.

Send jamming equipment to our astronauts.

[Rusticolus]

That is, to send there a "symbol of peace" - space pigeons. Let them dirtiest them with all their militaristic optics.

[knn54]

-docks with its general civil status and memorandum on non-use for military purposes.
fits with its general civil status and the memorandum on non-use for military purposes.
The answer lies in the words of an SDA representative:
"Was there a source of bright infrared radiation, whether it was a wildfire, a meteor OR a hypersonic rocket,"
If it works out, then "on the knurled":
They will launch / deploy a dozen or two reconnaissance satellites with a wide viewing angle. Equipped with DATA infrared detection systems. Will provide the ability to exchange data with satellites of the ENTIRE satellite reconnaissance network.

[rocket757]

The US Department of Defense said they are going to detect enemy hypersonic missiles using the ISS

Plans, plans, nothing new, unexpected ... technical means, capabilities are updated and that's it.

[HAM]

Here are just the Yankees in their repertoire: cheat someone, get profit for themselves, don't give a damn about agreements on a "peaceful" ISS, so in everything .. This unit cannot be built in a couple of years ... it means that we planned to use the station for military purposes in advance.

[rocket757]

Quote: HAM

planned to use the station in advance for military purposes.

And this should be surprising? you can't crawl into the world of your ... naivety.
Moreover, it is harmful for the country's leadership ... and this is if this is just naivety, and not a clear calculation on ... there are traitors, alas, alas.

[HAM]

It would be better if they sent a new toilet .... smart guys ... everywhere they see a "threat to national security" ... and impudence is the second happiness ... here is the "peaceful" ISS ...

[Heel]

a new toilet was already sent last year, and another new one arrived with science

[tralflot1832]

The Americans brought the camera to their modules, in the morning they wake up and they are undocked 10 meters from our moths. We are waiting for their toilet to break down, the next day the Americans will break the camera and throw it into space. strategic toilet, from the word completely. The result will be the same.

[Heel]

On December 14 of last year, the Americans installed their new strategic toilet, so they grind it down, so it's not an option, you need to look for another

[maiman61]

This is not the ISS, the debris of which will lie on the ocean floor in case of what?

[Nikolaevich I]

Well, the ISS with heat detectors ... so what? In vain the tunnels "Peresveta" enter service! Think nadot ... saber!

[slipped]

It is expected that PIRPL will take infrared "images" from the Cygnus module docked to the ISS.

Swan, this is not a module - this is a truck. Those. the equipment is delivered by truck and remains in it, without transferring it to the ISS.