The construction of facilities in the Kuril Islands was entrusted to the military

Recently, active construction of various objects has been launched in the Kuril Islands. On the islands of Iturup and Kunashir, 7 hostels were built for military personnel - officers and contract soldiers. New residential complexes are distinguished by a high level of improvement. Now military builders have to build 51 objects for various purposes on the islands of the Kuril ridge. The newspaper of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation writes about this “Make a star».

When constructing such facilities, military builders take into account the terrain features, for example, the risk of earthquakes. All buildings are highly seismic resistant.

Recently, Russia has shown increasing attention to the Kuril Islands, trying to build new and develop existing infrastructure. For a long time the Kurils were not spoiled by the attention of the federal center, so now the government is gradually making up for lost time.

Meanwhile, any activity of Russia in the Kuril Islands continues to cause negative comments from the representatives of Japan. So, when the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Mikhail Mishustin visited the Kuriles, promising to create a free customs zone on the islands, the Japanese Foreign Ministry summoned the Russian ambassador and protested to him.

The fact is that Tokyo continues to consider the South Kuriles as their territory, although as a result of the Second World War they came under the jurisdiction of the USSR. Thus, Tokyo is actually trying not to recognize the results of WWII.

Comments

[Doccor18]

And who else to entrust? Civilians need good conditions and high wages, otherwise they won't go. And the military was ordered, and they answered "eat". Yes, and military builders have a wealth of experience in the construction of facilities in adverse weather conditions. So the choice is obvious ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Doccor18

Who else can you trust? Civilians need good conditions and high wages, otherwise they won't go

Are they needed there, civilian builders? There are not many civilians there ... And building the military infrastructure by civilians ... is not always good at it.

[Reptiloid]

.... In Tokyo, they are trying to de facto not recognize the results of WW2.

They, in my opinion, do not try, but specifically do not recognize. Not geographically, nor in relation to the crimes committed by the Japanese. Although there was a Tribunal for the Far East and Japan was convicted
For example, is there a Yasukuni shrine in Tokyo, where they pray for those who died in all wars, including WW2?

[Asad]

Military builders came, built and left. Military towns alone will not attract citizens for permanent residence.

[Lisa90]

And who will serve them ?? Hairdressers, auto repair shops, photo, natarius, shops, ..... etc.

[Ryaruav]

for this, the wives of military personnel are suitable

[Doccor18]

Quote: ASAD

will attract citizens for permanent residence.

Permanent residence in the Kuriles? Only a large salary (at least 300% of that on the mainland), preferential length of service and a 100% guarantee of getting a home. In no other way, they will not go ...

[Doccor18]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

There are not many civilians there ..

Now of course. Over the past thirty years, the population has decreased by 40% ... It's good that at least recently they have seriously taken up this corner, otherwise the last ones would have left. And now there is hope that life in the Kuril Islands will someday boil, just like in the distant 89th ...

[Olkhovsky]

And who else to entrust?

The military are not people or what? They also have human weaknesses and wives who want fur diamonds ..

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Doccor18

Yes, and military builders have a wealth of experience in the construction of facilities in adverse weather conditions. So the choice is obvious ...

Iturup and Kunashir are located at the latitude of the Kuban and Crimea, winters there are very mild, the average annual temperature is comparable to the average annual temperature in Moscow and St. Petersburg. So there, by Russian standards, there are no adverse weather conditions. This is not Novaya Zemlya, where 10 months of winter, permafrost and constant snowstorms in winter with snowdrifts of 3-4 meters.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

So there, by Russian standards, there are no adverse weather conditions.

Directly a resort, only with storms and hurricanes.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Piramidon

Directly a resort, only with storms and hurricanes.

On the coasts of Ireland, Britain, Denmark, Norway, hurricanes and storms are also frequent in winter, but that's okay, people live there, and they live very well.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

So there, by Russian standards, there are no adverse weather conditions.

Directly a resort, only with storms and hurricanes.

I will add: ... constant cyclones, frequent fogs, rains, a sharp change in weather, very cold water around the islands and - nevertheless - remoteness, with a climate incomparable with the British, Danish, Norwegian - much more severe. In winter, the most powerful snowfalls and blizzards. Although, of course, the climate and conditions on Novaya Zemlya are even harsher.
Kuzya the cat writes mostly bullshit about the Kuril Islands. Meteorolukh!
And I have been to the Kuril Islands and near them more than once.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Iturup and Kunashir are located at the latitude of the Kuban and Crimea

What do you mean? They made me laugh, they made me laugh. Thanks.

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

So there, by Russian standards, there are no adverse weather conditions ...

Oh well...
Judging by what was written, you have never been there. Well, at least read about the Kuril Islands, about their inhabitants, about the living conditions ...

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Doccor18

What are you? They made me laugh, they made me laugh. Thanks.

You make it laugh. Are you the USE generation? Kurilsk is located at a latitude of 45 degrees 15 minutes, the average monthly temperature of the coldest month - February - is only -6,6 degrees. Yuzhno-Kurilsk is located at a latitude of 44 degrees 2 minutes, the average monthly temperature of the coldest month - February - is only -5,3 degrees. Now take a look at least at Viki and see at what latitude Krasnodar and Simferopol are located.

Quote: Doccor18

Judging by what was written, you have never been there. Well, at least read about the Kuril Islands, about their inhabitants, about the living conditions ...

Compared to life in Norilsk, it’s just a resort.

[Doccor18]

I do not know who you are, and how old you are, but why write nonsense.
If you could learn everything without letting go of the mouse ... Geography must be understood.
The 50th parallel passes through the Kiev region and the center of Sakhalin Island. Can you conclude that the climates are the same there and there?

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Are you the USE generation?

I don't even know what to answer you. You can't swear here. And censorship is difficult to express ...
Have you been Ohe? In the South Caucasus? At Krabozavodsky?
Do not dishonor yourself, by God.

[Kot_Kuzya]

It is you who are disgraced. Did I really assert that the climate in the Southern Kuriles is the same as in the Crimea and the Kuban? I said that the South Kurils are located at the latitude of the Crimea and the Kuban, and therefore the climate there is not harsh by Russian standards, the winters there are very mild, and the average annual temperature is similar to the annual temperatures of Moscow and St. Petersburg. That is, the climate of Moscow and St. Petersburg is "difficult" for you?

[Doccor18]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

and therefore the climate there is not harsh by Russian standards, the winters there are very mild, and the average annual temperature is similar to that of Moscow and St. Petersburg. That

Dear, do not want to live and work in the Kuril Islands. At least a year.
I would love to talk to you later.
But not now...

[Kot_Kuzya]

I would gladly live in Yuzhno-Kurilsk for a year. In fact, I am a meteorologist by education, I work as a forecaster, so it would be interesting to feel the climate of the Southern Kuriles live on my own, so to speak, skin

[Doccor18]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

so it would be interesting to feel the climate of the South Kuriles live on your own, so to speak, skin

So what's stopping you?
People are always needed there.
The climate there is harsh and unique. You will not find this anywhere else. It's not easy to live there. But people are also special. You will meet him somewhere in 10 years, in Vladik or Khabaroask, you embrace and the feeling is that you have met a close relative. I would like to talk for a long time, find out all the news over a bottle of Russian ...

[Kot_Kuzya]

I repeat once again: by Russian standards, the climate there is not at all harsh. For a Japanese who is accustomed to a subtropical climate, yes, there is a very harsh climate, but for a Russian there is a very mild climate. In the South Kuriles, there are mild winters and cool summers, in winter there are no frosts below -20, and in summer there is no heat above +30. Whereas in Moscow the temperature in winter drops to -30, or even lower, and in summer there is often a sweltering heat up to +35, or even higher.

[Gunther]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

I repeat once again: by Russian standards, the climate is not at all harsh ...

with a wind from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, -20 ° smoothly turn into -30 °.
"Mother Nature has arranged a climatic
mess. On one side of the islands -
cold Pacific Ocean, on the other - not easy
cold and chilly Sea of ​​Okhotsk. If
the wind blows from the south, it is warm and humid. If
from the north - Siberian, yeah. As a result, here
it's very cold in winter, it's just cold in summer,
but it's always wet - in winter it's waist-deep,
in summer fogs, drizzle and rains ....... "
https://eugene.kaspersky.ru/2014/08/30/kuril-islands-vacations-climate-weather/

[Piramidon]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

it would be interesting to feel the climate of the South Kuriles live

Well, it turns out that you know about the Kuril Islands "from the lantern", but describe the climate as an old-timer, not paying attention to the objections of those who managed to live there and experience this climate on their own skin, and not according to "National Geographic"

[Piramidon]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

the climate there is not harsh by Russian standards, the winters there are very mild

I would prefer the climate of Krasnoyarsk with its harsh but dry winters than this "mild" climate of the Kuril Islands with stormy winds, awesome humidity and other delights. A temperature of -40 degrees in dry and calm weather is tolerated much more comfortably than -5 with a hurricane wind and 98% humidity

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Piramidon

A temperature of -40 degrees in dry and calm weather is tolerated much more comfortably than -5 with a hurricane wind and 98% humidity

Again you tell tales. I live in Yakutsk, we have -40 here all winter, last winter was very cold over the past hundred years, the temperature dropped to -54. Therefore, I know very well what -40 is in dry and light winds. I also studied in St. Petersburg, and I know very well about the myth that supposedly -5 in St. Petersburg with their winds and dampness are equal to -40 in Siberia, where it is dry and there is no wind. In St. Petersburg, I spent the winter in summer shoes, only put felt insoles so that the frost would not penetrate through the sole, in thin underpants, in a thin padded coat made of synthetic winterizer and in a knitted hat. In Yakutsk, in such clothes at -40, I would give oak in 10 minutes. I wear the clothes I used to winter in St. Petersburg, I go to Yakutsk in October, and since November I have been wearing a fur cap with earflaps, a thick down jacket made of natural goose down and warm winter boots. -40 even with a humidity of 70% and a wind of 1 m / s in terms of the severity of sensations will many times exceed -5 even with a wind of 30 m / s and a humidity of 98%.

[BecmepH]

Quote: Doccor18

Yes, and military builders have a wealth of experience ... So the choice is obvious ...

And you did not live in houses built by military builders?)) If you want extreme, live ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: BecmepH

Quote: Doccor18

Yes, and military builders have a wealth of experience ... So the choice is obvious ...

And you did not live in houses built by military builders?)) If you want extreme, live ...

I have lived in these houses (and more than one) for 32 years. Nothing extreme.

[BecmepH]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: BecmepH

Quote: Doccor18

Yes, and military builders have a wealth of experience ... So the choice is obvious ...

And you did not live in houses built by military builders?)) If you want extreme, live ...

I have lived in these houses (and more than one) for 32 years. Nothing extreme.

At least admit to yourself that the quality of the house is poor.
Helped a colleague to move. I went into the toilet and heard the sound of footsteps from somewhere above. I raised my head, and in the corner in the ceiling there was a hole from the palm of my hand into the next staircase to the staircase ... It was in the town of Tchaikovsky, Perm Territory.
And then he lived in a house where there are ceiling slabs with a height difference of about 5 cm.
And he lived in the dining room of the soldier while it was being renovated. And he lived in the room from under the store. And he lived normally. But this does not mean that it is of normal quality. And the soldiers' barracks?

[Piramidon]

Quote: BecmepH

At least admit to yourself that the quality of the house is poor.

It depends on what you compare it to. What quality do you consider "high"? And my parents and most of my acquaintances did not live then in some kind of "royal chambers". On average, the apartments in the garrisons were no worse than theirs in the cities. And my last apartment in the Fedotovo garrison was one to one in layout and quality with the apartment of my parents in the city of Kurgan. So I don't need to rub in on some kind of "extreme" living conditions in the garrisons, many of which I have visited and I can judge not by hearsay, but by my own opinion

[BecmepH]

Quote: Piramidon

On average, the apartments in the garrisons were no worse than theirs in the cities.

Only the construction battalion did not build these houses.
32 years in construction battalions ... Do you believe yourself?))

[Piramidon]

Quote: BecmepH

Quote: Piramidon

On average, the apartments in the garrisons were no worse than theirs in the cities.

Only the construction battalion did not build these houses.
32 years in construction battalions ... Do you believe yourself?))

It was the construction battalion who built it. During my service in the garrison, 17 five-story buildings were built. I believe in myself, since I myself saw who built houses in the garrison, and I am not going to prove something to you, who judges these houses only by hearsay, from unknown acquaintances.

[BecmepH]

Quote: Piramidon

he judges these houses only by hearsay, from unknown acquaintances, I'm not going to.

Well, yes, well, yes ... You served alone))) Judging by your words, it turns out that you are lying. 32 years in construction battalions))) We lived in one garrison and now boast of it. Only there is nothing to be proud of. Be objective.
Good luck to you!

[Piramidon]

Quote: BecmepH

You are lying

And you, my friend, are also hamlo.

[BecmepH]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: BecmepH

You are lying

And you, my friend, are also hamlo.

So you are a sissy)) Doesn't look like a military man!

[BecmepH]

Quote: Piramidon

unknown acquaintances

You do not speak Russian well))

[Piramidon]

Quote: BecmepH

You do not speak Russian well

Have you decided to work as a teacher? If your acquaintances are unknown to anyone except you, what should you call them?

[BecmepH]

Quote: Piramidon

Have you decided to work as a teacher?

Yes, not ... It's just that if you are an officer, you are ashamed to distort the Russian language. We stop flooding. Good luck to you!

[Doccor18]

Quote: BecmepH

You did not live in homes built by military builders

I have lived half my life.
Everywhere the houses are different.
In many towns of the Far East, all the houses were erected by construction battalions. At home, at home.
And now there is enough extreme from civilian "super companies" ...

[riwas]

It is good that the military began to pay more attention to the Kurils.

The fact is that Tokyo continues to consider the South Kuriles as their territory.

It would be nice to tighten up the antiamphibious defense in the Kuril Islands.

[1976AG]

Quote: riwas

It is good that the military began to pay more attention to the Kurils.

The fact is that Tokyo continues to consider the South Kuriles as their territory.

It would be nice to tighten up the antiamphibious defense in the Kuril Islands.

So it seems like "Ball" and "Bastion" are already there.

[kind]

It would be interesting to know about the condition of these houses in a year. Then it will be possible to assess the quality.

[Peak]

Quote: Good

It would be interesting to know about the condition of these houses in a year. Then it will be possible to assess the quality.

What are your doubts?

In the characteristics of the project, in whether it is suitable for the conditions of the Kuril Islands, or in the ability of military builders to erect facilities with high quality?

Or in the materials and technologies used?

[kind]

As always, the question is in the quality of materials and who are these military builders? For a long time now, we have not had Stroybats as well as builders in uniform. I looked at the photo at the beginning of the article, how the steps are made. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the tiles will not last long on them.

[Wolf]

How did you come to this conclusion? Porcelain stoneware tiles (high-quality external tiles) high-quality glue for a long time in Russia
let, what did you not like?

[NDR-791]

Quote: PiK

What are your doubts?

military builders have to build 51 objects for various purposes on the islands of the Kuril ridge.
Here are my doubts of a slightly different kind. In light of the proposals of the unnamed to Japan for cooperation in the Kuril Islands, will this banquet be again at our expense? They did not respond to the offer, but construction began. They will build and will stand empty, fall apart.

[Piramidon]

Quote: NDR-791

In light of the proposals of the unnamed to Japan for cooperation in the Kuril Islands, will this banquet be again at our expense? They did not respond to the offer, but construction began. They will build and will stand empty, fall apart.

They are building not for the Japanese and not for the joint venture, but for our military personnel. And the grouping in the Kuril Islands is constantly increasing

[abrakadabre]

For a long time the Kurils were not spoiled by the attention of the federal center

For a long time, all of the Moscow Ring Road was not spoiled by the attention of the federal center. With rare exceptions. But thank God, this is in the past.

[Asad]

I don’t know what exactly happened in your place, we only build a bridge in Novosibirsk, though it’s paid!

[Wolf]

What is the federal center looking after? There eats lokalne officials THEY should look, if they do not do their job, they demand that their federflni center be replaced and that's it.

[Wolf]

Every city, rheon, etc. has its own URBANISTIC PLAN and a PLAN FOR BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE (must have) and THIS PLAN PUBLIC THERE IS NO WAR SECRET, every person can get acquainted if these plans did not suit the people to demand changes. Local officials are responsible for all this. If the budget does not have enough money for this, this is also the responsibility of the LOCAL OFFICIALS of the city below, they should comprehend the development and industry and the growth of the budget. If local officials do not do their job, they can replace them with workers for the people who live there.

[abrakadabre]

each person will be able to get to know each other if these plans did not suit the people to demand changes.

It remains to answer the question: is it possible for each person, competently and reasonably, to make comments and suggestions on changing the town-planning plan at least at the level of the regional center. I do not stutter about a big city. Not really, I suspect.

[Wolf]

I agree completely. But between a resident of the city there is enough and an architect and engineers, besides this, every person can see it, he is satisfied with roads, public transport, the number and quality of schools, kindergartens, park hospitals, heating, etc.

[Wolf]

The algorithm of action of local authorities is very simple !!!
1. Questionnaire for residents of the city on the pleasure of life near their city, road, parks, public transport, schools, hospitals, kindergartens, shops, theaters, concert halls, sports grounds, etc.
2. On the basis of the remarks of citizens, the current urban planning plan will be calmed down and those will be set. task for a new one if necessary.
3. Public discussion of the new urb. plan where only specialists in architecture and engineering have an attack
4. Final version of the Urb plan
5 Construction plan, with priorities and deadlines
6. Responsibility of Meyer City and the construction team
It’s not just hard to put into business, and it has nothing to do with the federal center and LOCALS OFFICIALS.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Judging by your "literacy", it is not surprising that Ukraine has become the poorest country in Europe, and the last presidents of the country were a criminal who took off his hats, an alcoholic oligarch, and a clown who played with personal belongings on the piano. Who will you choose as the next president? There seems to be no worse clown in the presidency, but Ukrainians are champions in breaking the bottom

[Wolf]

Teach, then, how it should be?

[Kot_Kuzya]

You are unteachable, otherwise you would not have been riding a rake for 30 years. In August 1991, the Russians once jumped for the "democrat" Yeltsin, and got the "saints" of the 90s. We made a conclusion to ourselves, grew wiser and no longer jump for pro-Western politicians and candidates. And you still believe that "the West will help us", and continue to ride the same rake, absolutely not drawing conclusions for yourself.

[Wolf]

Why do you think that I am Ukrainian? And how do you combine the topic of the post and my comment with nationality?

[Kot_Kuzya]

Because Ukrainians are scorching with confusion of letters "i" and "y", "e" and "e", insert a soft sign where it is not necessary, and do not insert it where necessary. In general, young Ukrainians know Russian very poorly, since it is not taught in schools. About 10 years ago, this was not yet particularly noticeable, but now it is very noticeable. I hope that in another 10 years the Ukrainians will completely cease to understand Russian, and that would be very good, since they are already tired of their verbal slops in Runet.

[Wolf]

Look, and Pushkin put soft signs in a different way, and even other letters in the words, "reform" the language. were grammatical rules like spelling needed by the Russian people or not? , does not talk about the new alphabets in Ukraine and Belarus? Soft signs removed one ode from the "reformers" of our language in the 19th century, he was a mason, so today there is no longer a sense of where to put a sign of the people, but I have threads. I also removed y and left only I, like e and left only E, so I interfere. There is no longer hearing for such a subtle difference.
Staroruski Pushkinov was a lot of CREATION of Novorusky from the beginning of the 20th century, but the "reformers" of the Masons "improved" it.

[Kot_Kuzya]

In general, it is not clear what kind of confusion you wrote. The Ukrainian language was invented by the Galician Hrushevsky based on the Galician dialect of the Polish language, so the modern Ukrainian language is closer to Polish than to Russian.

[Wolf]

Correctly said I INvented and not by chance. And what language was spoken in Kievan Rusia? Or Ivan the Great (the Terrible) in Rusia? New languages ​​from dialects of one people are not natural category but artificial. Another question is who and why pushed these art processes?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Judging by your "literacy", it is not surprising that Ukraine has become the poorest country in Europe

And not what, that you communicate with a Serb? I would apologize if I were you!

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: 30 vis

And not what, that you communicate with a Serb? I would apologize if I were you!

The Serbian keyboard does not have the letter "y", but he writes the letter "s". So he's Ukrainian. Probably now he is writing while in Russia.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Quote: 30 vis

And not what, that you communicate with a Serb? I would apologize if I were you!

The Serbian keyboard does not have the letter "y", but he writes the letter "s". So he's Ukrainian. Probably now he is writing while in Russia.

I know . I understand Ukrainian. There are no such phrases and a different construction of phrases. words are different. This is a Slav. South Slav, not Bulgarian, Serb. Our person . Moreover, I talked to him, here at VO. Here is his verbal turnover - "" reform "language those." In Ukrainian it will sound differently. - these reform (s) are. In Serbs language, ukrov mova.

[rotmistr60]

The construction of facilities in the Kuril Islands was entrusted to the military

Who else should be entrusted with the construction of military facilities? There will be Japanese prisoners and they will be used, as they were involved in the Far East after the end of the war. The houses built by them still serve well in Ussuriisk and Khabarovsk ...

[Lisa90]

It is high time! Well done !!

[Knell wardenheart]

Tokyo is twitching because of the "northern territories", we are twitching from the fact that Tokyo is twitching - maybe it's high time to put the talker on how the Japanese feel about this issue? There are enough people in the world with defective perception - there is one more nation, so what do we get from this?

[Ros 56]

At least they have established themselves as professionals, in contrast to the clumsy and thieves of civilians. Otherwise, they will pick up on the ads of the Jamshuds and Mahmuds and start rinsing their brains.
They did the right thing that the military was involved.

[Gunther]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

The Serbian keyboard does not have the letter "y", but he writes the letter "s". So he's Ukrainian. Probably now he is writing while in Russia.

subtly noted, now he is "not Baron Munchausen, but the gardener Müller")))
only if you wish, you can copy the letter that is missing on the keyboard from the text and substitute it.