Folding knives: at the forefront of technological progress

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Article Knives: the evolution of steel we examined the modern materials used to make the blades of modern knives.

Knives can be divided into two broad categories - with a fixed blade or "fixed" and folding knives or "folder".



Most of the human stories "Fixes" were unconditionally in the lead, but in our time their distribution has significantly decreased - often people around them even negatively perceive folding knives, what can we say about the "fix" hanging on the belt? And from a practical point of view, most people do not have any special need for a knife with a fixed blade - most often they are worn outside the city by tourists, hunters and other similar categories of users. However, in this segment, folding knives are becoming more widespread. Therefore, in this article we will talk about folding knives.

Despite the predominance of "fixes", the first folding knives appeared before our era. The first samples were found on the territory of modern Austria with an estimated creation date of about 500 BC. And the folding knives produced during the Roman Empire, due to the originality of the applied design solutions, could give odds to the products that appeared a couple of thousand years later.


Roman folding multifunctional knife - the "ancestor" of modern Victorinox knives

In the future, knives have gradually evolved, acquiring a look more and more similar to that used in modern products.

Folding knives: at the forefront of technological progress
Classic Spanish Navaja and its modern reincarnation - Cold Steel 62MGD Large Espada

With the development of the technical and technological skills of mankind, the design of the knife has undergone significant changes. However, design changes were not always dictated by technology - since ancient times, a person has been distinguished by the ability to complicate life for himself and his loved ones, therefore, the parameters of knives are significantly influenced by legislative restrictions in different countries. In Russia, in terms of knives, one of the most liberal laws in the world - this issue was discussed in detail in the article Knives in Russia: edged weapons or not?. We will return to the topic of the negative impact of lawmaking in different countries on the design and characteristics of knives in subsequent materials.

From a technical point of view, a folding knife is much more difficult than a fixed blade knife. Of course, a lot depends on the user's pickiness - someone still uses knives of the Soviet period and does not feel any discomfort at the same time, but knives of this level of performance cannot be attributed to high-tech products, and their production can be established in any artel. On the other hand, you quickly get used to good things, and if you use modern products made with the latest achievements of the knife industry for at least a short time, you somehow don't want to "go back".

If in the previous material we said that starting from the middle of the XNUMXth century, stainless steel knife steels, in principle, have sufficient characteristics for comfortable practical use of the knife, then a significant part of the design solutions that ensure the comfortable and safe use of folding knives appeared somewhat later, towards the end XX century.

Lock tightly


No matter how trite it sounds, the main difference between a folding knife and a fixed one is that in the first the blade folds. Accordingly, for a comfortable and safe use of a folding knife, it is necessary to ensure that the blade is fixed both in the closed position (so that it does not open in the pocket) and in the open position (so as not to chop off the fingers during use).

For a long time, special attention was not paid to this problem - the blade was, in fact, fixed only by the friction force. A little later, a spring-loaded rocker appeared, which opens with increased pressure on the blade - the predecessor of the Back Lock.

Modern knife locks have really effectively begun to block the blade, which must be opened by a separate push or movement of special structural elements, and not just by pressure on the blade.

There are a great variety of locks - the aforementioned Back Lock, Liner Lock and its varieties Frame Lock and Compression Lock, Axis Lock and its varieties, Blade Lock, Slide Lock, Viroblock and many others. The most popular are Back Lock, Liner Lock, Axis Lock and their varieties.

The Liner Lock is a bent part of the inner side plate of the knife, which abuts against the heel of the blade when open. To prevent the knife from opening when folded, a metal or ceramic ball is integrated into the die, which, when closed, enters a special recess in the blade.


Liner Lock

The Compression Lock is similar in principle to the Liner Lock, but the locking plate is accessed from the back of the knife handle.


Compression Lock

The most reliable lock from the Liner Lock family can be considered the Frame Lock, since in it the locking unit is a part of the handle itself, usually made of titanium or steel, which is much thicker than the liner in the Liner Lock. The locking plate can be either part of the handle itself, or a separate element attached to the handle with screws. When making a Frame Lock from titanium, it is most often additionally equipped with a steel cracker in the front part in order to prevent the titanium plate from sticking to the blade steel. The additional reliability of the Frame Lock is given by the fact that it is wrapped around the fingers of the hand during operation, and this additionally contributes to the fixation of the lock.


Frame Lock

Knife locks Axis Lock and Arc Lock are considered to be quite reliable and easy to use, which are locked by a spring-loaded pin.


Axis Lock (top) and Arc Lock (bottom)

It would seem that everything that is possible has already been invented in the field of knife locks. However, more and more new designs appear. For example, one of the oldest knife locks is Back Lock. Its disadvantages include the fact that work hardening gradually forms during operation, as a result of which a vertical backlash of the blade appears and the reliability of its fixation decreases.


Back Lock

Based on the Back Lock, American knife designer Andrew Demko developed the Tri-Ad Lock for Cold Steel in 2008. If in the Back Lock the power loads fall directly on the rocker arm of the lock, then in the Tri-Ad Lock the force during power work falls on the fixed transverse axis, and the rocker arm of the lock wedges the heel of the blade and the same axis from the reverse side. At the same time, the hole for fastening the rocker arm is made oval, that is, the rocker arm of the lock has a small backlash, which allows it to independently choose the gap when forming work hardening, excluding or minimizing the occurrence of blade backlash. This makes the Tri-Ad Lock one of the most reliable knife locks around.


Tri-Ad Lock


Tri-Ad Lock Knife Test

There is no doubt that engineers and designers will not stop there, and other designs of knife locks will be developed in the future.


Custom solutions - Andrew Demko's Scorpion Lock on the Cold Steel AD-15 knife and Ken Onion's external pin lock on the Kershaw Spec Bump knife

For a comfortable and safe use of a folding knife, it is necessary to ensure that it is easy to open and close. This is ensured by the design of the axle assembly and the devices for extracting the blade.

Axial node


In old folding knives, the axle assembly was simply the axle on which the blade was mounted. Poor workmanship led to the fact that the knife opened with a creak and crunch, with an uneven force.

Then, washers made of non-ferrous metals were additionally installed on the axle, which, having less friction, ensured a smoother extraction of the blade. With high-quality polishing of a washer made of alloys of brass and bronze alloys, it is possible to achieve the highest smoothness of the blade opening. To reduce friction, sometimes the washers are made perforated (however, according to the author, the perforation is only clogged with dirt).


Washers made of alloys of bronze and brass provide a comfortable and smooth opening of the blade

An even smoother opening is provided by fluoroplastic washers. However, they are less resistant to power loads - with strong side loads, PTFE washers can be crushed. In addition, often knives with fluoroplastic washers have a small lateral blade play. Some companies, like Cold Steel, combine metal and PTFE washers.


PTFE washers

The most modern solution is the use of bearings in the axle assembly. Bearings can be open or closed, with metal and ceramic, ball and roller rolling elements.


Axial units on bearings

The knives with bearings in the axle assemblies open incredibly quickly and smoothly. However, everything has a price. Even if we do not talk about the increase in the cost of the knife, the bearings are more prone to contamination, after which they become less smooth. Bearings with steel balls and rollers can also corrode.

If the bearing elements are made of ceramics, then they are not only absolutely resistant to corrosion, but also literally grind the debris that gets into them, for example, dirt and sand, and are easily washed out with water.

In general, from a practical point of view, we can say this - for power work and use in nature, metal washers are preferable. For using a knife in a city with light loads, fluoroplastic are also quite suitable.

Bearings are more likely a "luxury", there is no objective need for their use on folding knives. On the other hand, user requests contribute to the proliferation of bearings in folding knives, an increase in the number of bearings sold contributes to a decrease in their cost, which in turn contributes to their distribution in all types of folding knives, and then the cycle repeats.

One-handed opening


One of the most important factors determining the usability of folding knives is the ability to conveniently open (and close) them with one hand.

On old knives, such an opportunity was often not provided; there was only a small recess on the knife blade, for which the knife could be opened with the second hand.


It is convenient to open such knives with only two hands.

It is convenient to open with one hand automatic knives with a blade that opens under the action of a spring - for this you just need to press a button or move a small lever. However, the turnover of such knives is often limited, and their design is further complicated, which makes them less reliable.

The simplest devices for one-handed opening are holes and pegs on the blades of knives. For example, Spyderco patented a round hole that has become an integral design element of the company's knives. Many companies use protruding pins on the blades. Both solutions have both advantages and disadvantages, and therefore their supporters and opponents. A large hole in the blade weakens it, but does not interfere with cutting. In turn, the pin requires a smaller hole that almost does not weaken the blade, or it can be made in the form of a platform on the butt of the blade, but the pin "eats" part of the useful length of the blade.


Holes and pins are the simplest solutions for one-handed opening

The American knife designer Ernest Emerson has developed the so-called "Emerson's hook" - a hook in the upper part of the blade, which allows it to automatically open when removed from the pocket due to the hook on the edge of the pocket. Someone likes this solution (including the author), someone considers it unsafe (and will also be right), one thing can be said for sure - Emerson's hook pulls the pocket of his trousers mercilessly.


Emerson Hook Knife

Combined solutions have also appeared - the combination of the Emerson hook and the peg-platform, which are also quite comfortable, but fairly tearing the fabric of the pocket when used.


Cold Steel Immortal knife - the pin-pad simultaneously acts as an Emerson hook

The emergence of axial nodes that ensure the opening of the knife with minimal effort led to the emergence of another type of opening method - due to the so-called "flipper" - a projection at the base of the blade protruding from the knife handle when folded. This is where the concept of "flipping" came from, that is, to throw a knife abruptly, combining pressing on the flipper with an inertial movement of the hand. On knives with polished washers or bearings, light pressure on the fin is enough to fully open the knife, without additional hand movement.


"Flipper" on modern knives

The methods of quickly opening knives are not limited to this, but they are much less common. It is also worth mentioning that some locks, for example, Axis Lock and Arc Lock, allow you to open and close the knife, combining the opening of the lock and the inertial opening by hand. Also, often several methods of opening are combined on knives, for example, a pin and a fin.

Ease of wearing


Folding knives have been called "pocket knives" because they can be carried in a pocket without a scabbard without fear of cutting. However, this is not always convenient. The introduction of a clip made it possible to radically increase the convenience of carrying folding knives. The clip first appeared in 1981 on Spyderco's Worker knife. From that moment on, folding knives began to be carried not "in the pocket", but "on the pocket."

For all its seeming simplicity, this element is very important - the clip should make it easy to put on the knife "on the pocket", but hold it firmly, to tear the pocket tissue to a minimum when putting on and removing the knife, not to dig into the user's hand when working with the knife.

Ideally, the clip should be able to be rearranged for left-handers and right-handers, as well as to allow the knife to be carried up or down at the user's choice.


Various versions of clips on knives

There are deep-set clips, when the presence of a knife "on the pocket" is almost invisible.


Differences between deep and shallow clips

Automatic knives, balisongs, multitools and other types of folding knives, blade coverings and handle materials are beyond the scope of this article. Perhaps we will return to them in subsequent materials.

Finally, I propose to watch a video of assembling and disassembling the IFS-20 knife, in the design of which there is not a single screw.


IFS-20 knife

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  1. +13
    8 August 2021 04: 48
    The most practical knife is a stainless steel hunting knife, the blade is about 12-13 cm. Thick steel is about 3 mm. Heavy. Strong. A knife that keeps sharpening for a long time is not good, it will still become dull at the most inopportune moment ... and how will you sharpen it in the forest? Take the sharpening stone with you? Stainless steel can be sharpened on a stone. And elite knives are more of a hobby - I can't imagine how I will poke around with a knife for 25000 between stones trying to get what I dropped there. And if you cut the sausages, then I also don't see the point in an expensive knife. As I said, this is a hobby, but I don’t mind - anyway it’s better than spreading around the entrances. Someone collects stamps, someone knives - why not?
    1. +13
      8 August 2021 05: 48
      The best knives that I have come across in my life - just made of rust, thin table knives from 195X, made in one piece with the handle. It was not necessary to sharpen them, but only to edit on a thin stone. Modern stainless steel has to be sharpened CONSTANTLY. I'm talking about affordable knives, I did not use "elite" ones. Now I have 30+ knives in total, they are lying around idle, I only use a couple of kitchen knives and one folding knife. I use the Chinese construction cutter with replaceable blades more often - this is the best knife! )))
      1. +11
        8 August 2021 08: 09
        Quote: MBRBS
        The best knives that I have come across in my life - just made of rust, thin table knives from 195X, made in one piece with the handle. It was not necessary to sharpen them, but only to edit on a thin stone. Modern stainless steel has to be sharpened CONSTANTLY. I'm talking about affordable knives, I did not use "elite" ones. Now I have 30+ knives in total, they are lying around idle, I only use a couple of kitchen knives and one folding knife. I use the Chinese construction cutter with replaceable blades more often - this is the best knife! )))

        here is the answer to all sorts of individuals who buy "tactical" unloading and walk around the city as if they were going to war. Why all this junk? Everything lies.
      2. +4
        8 August 2021 15: 12
        The best knives that I have come across in my life - just made of rust, thin table knives from 195X, made in one piece with the handle. It was not necessary to sharpen them, but only to edit on a thin stone.
        In our country, many Chukchi hunters still use table knives for cutting and skinning deer, having previously reduced them by half, sharpening the blade and wrapping a metal handle with cloth or leather ...
        1. +4
          9 August 2021 08: 49
          All my acquaintances, professional hunters and fishermen, carry such gloomy sharpenings - you can't look without tears. Rusty and worn-out made almost from cans. They carry it for years until they lose it.
    2. +10
      8 August 2021 06: 41
      Thick steel about 3mm. Heavy. Strong.

      Heavy and sturdy with a 3mm blade? You probably have a two-handed knife laughing .
      Thick blades are 4-6mm.
      1. +7
        8 August 2021 18: 13
        Yeah, and I also have an 8mm poker. I measured it especially for you. And the editing is old Soviet, that in general ... For you, 4-6 are thick, for me, about 3 are normal, but I myself am thin ... so I match ... But for you you see ... 4 -6 ... It happens. :)
        1. +1
          8 August 2021 18: 29
          You see, with wide descents and 3mm thickness, the blade will weaken to flexibility. Especially the double wedge. Well, apparently to each his own.
          1. +6
            8 August 2021 18: 41
            I don't understand your "wide slopes" and "double wedges", I'm not a fan. I just say what I have tried and what I go to the taiga with. Excuse me, for me a knife is just a knife.
            1. +3
              8 August 2021 19: 12
              Slopes are planes from the beginning of sharpening from the butt side to the cutting edge (RK), and a double wedge is sharpening or just forging with a narrowing in two projections, from the butt to the RK and from the butt to the tip. Ideal, I think. But with a thick blade.
              Sincerely. hi
              1. 0
                8 August 2021 20: 46
                Quote: out of habit
                Slopes are planes from the beginning of sharpening from the butt side to the cutting edge (RK), and a double wedge is sharpening or just forging with a narrowing in two projections, from the butt to the RK and from the butt to the tip. Ideal, I think. But with a thick blade.
                Sincerely. hi


                I agree. Cool blade shape.
                1. 0
                  8 August 2021 20: 58
                  Thanks. I'll just get better, from handle to point.
    3. +8
      8 August 2021 07: 02
      3 mm. Why such a thick hunting knife?
      I will not say that I am such a tough hunter, but for 20 years I ran in the taiga. And the knives were uuuuuuuuuu. Not a single one has ever come in handy. Everybody somehow managed to get along with it. With a knife with a thick butt, you can't really remove the skin, cut the meat, or gut the fish, but with a blade of 2 - 2.5 mm, and without any problems.
      Otherwise, you're right. For 25 pieces with a knife somehow it is not a camilfo to peel or to strip off a skin in a fireplace.
      What's in the knife should satisfy the consumer. Convenience as it lies in the hand, so that during prolonged work it does not fill up calluses, does not jump out of the hand at the wrong moment, the blade must be strong and keep sharpening for a long time. Basically everything.
      1. +2
        8 August 2021 07: 35
        What long-term work did you manage to get to blisters?
        1. +12
          8 August 2021 08: 17
          That you find fault, look for inconsistencies. What I wrote about long-term work with a knife is a general phrase, a general requirement for knives. Or are you against?
          Well, and so roughly what kind of work he did with a knife for a long time. Sharpen the peg when you need a dozen of them. He cut a roe deer, too, you know, it was not a matter of a minute, he gutted the fish. When a couple of dozen crucians. Here on fishing crucian carp, pike and that it is rather difficult to gut perch with a fold-up.
          If you have any other questions about using the knife outside the home, do not hesitate to ask. Extensive practice, I will share my experience.
      2. +1
        8 August 2021 18: 28
        Not one normal person will say that he is cool (hunter, locksmith, baker, etc.). And on the account of "why so fat" - have they never tried to cut down a young pine tree with a skiff? :) Although you can 2 mm. but I prefer a stronger one - in the taiga, a knife and a shovel, and a mini crowbar, and much more. By the way, I prefer a long handle, about one and a half grip, from below it is rather strongly bent towards the point, preferably made of birch bark.
        1. +2
          8 August 2021 23: 42
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          ... And on the account of "why so fat" - have they never tried to cut down a young pine tree with a skiff? :) Although you can 2 mm. but I prefer a stronger one - in the taiga, a knife and a shovel, and a mini crowbar, and much more.
          В taiga need ax
          tourist's ax
          You will need a knife for going on a picnic, picking mushrooms.
          ax knife
          Such a "knife" will be required to scare away "competitors-mushroom pickers" laughing
          1. +3
            9 August 2021 10: 25
            Quote: cat Rusich
            ... Such a "knife" will be required to scare away "competitors-mushroom pickers" laughing


            When going into the forest, be sure to take a knife with you. You can find Podberezovik, Boletus, Boletus, and if you meet another mushroom picker, you can get some money ... laughing
        2. +1
          10 August 2021 13: 56
          In order to chop a pine tree there is an ax. Without an ax to the taiga for a couple of three days, these are not European forest parks.
    4. 0
      8 August 2021 14: 39
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      ... And elite knives are more of a hobby - I can't imagine how I will poke around with a knife for 25000 between stones ...


      The problem is not with the knife, but with the exchange rate and salaries. With a course of 30 rubles. the same knife cost 10000 rubles.

      And in the United States, with a salary of $ 2000, spending 300 on a thing that will last for many years is quite acceptable.

      Again, who has what needs. If a person hunts and peels off a lot of skins, then a knife with super steel will quite allow you to sand several carcasses without editing the knife.

      In principle, a high-quality working knife with powder stainless steel can easily be taken for 5000-10000.
      1. +2
        8 August 2021 18: 36
        I have never bought a knife - either I made it myself, or someone gave it to me. Always homemade. I will never spend money on a knife - I will come to a friend, we will open a bearing (or find something else), and the rest is a matter of technology. But I’m not a fan either, I don’t regret knives - to cut a bone, but it’s easy - with a hammer on the butt and all business.
        1. +1
          8 August 2021 19: 07
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          I have never bought a knife - either I made it myself, or someone gave it to me. Always homemade. I will never spend money on a knife - I will come to a friend, we will open a bearing (or find something else), and the rest is a matter of technology. But I’m not a fan either, I don’t regret knives - to cut a bone, but it’s easy - with a hammer on the butt and all business.


          The main thing here is to get under the influence of our legislation. If it is loyal to wearing and purchasing knives, then making it is more difficult. If you have any questions, it is better not to say that you did it yourself.
          1. +2
            8 August 2021 19: 18
            Forgive me, but I'm a little funny ... :) What is the legislation in the taiga? You sit with a dog at night by a fire, and there are no souls around 50 miles away ... And so ... if in the city, you are right. But why do I need a knife in the city? And as I said, if you are fond of knives, this is not bad, the main thing is that you are interested in it, and in general there is something fascinating in the weapon, in the knives too.
    5. +3
      8 August 2021 21: 45
      there are a lot of pictures.
      and that's why I love (don't get it right) the author and kalibra.
      I hope in the article about knife steel there will be no obvious jambs, as happens with kalibra or with the author - with his weapons based on "new physical principles.
      and yes, a man should have a knife, in my opinion, because it is good when he has it at the right time, in the right place - let it be better if 12 are judged than 6 are carried.
  2. +22
    8 August 2021 05: 37
    Thank you for the article and memories from childhood! What kind of kid are you without a knife! A very necessary thing in the household!

    - And then I threw myself at the wolf and cut off its tail with one blow of the knife!
    - Why not a head?
    - Someone has already done this before me.
    1. +7
      8 August 2021 13: 50
      Soviet knives, that in the photo, 3 out of 4 I had) thanks to the author! Have a nice day, everyone smile
  3. +7
    8 August 2021 05: 48
    For some reason you missed the Swiss multifunctional knives ...
    Thanks for the article!
    1. +5
      8 August 2021 06: 44
      It is written - multitools out of bounds.
      1. +3
        8 August 2021 06: 54
        Written the same - multitools out of scope

        At the very beginning of the article, aren't Roman knives multifunctional?
        1. +2
          8 August 2021 07: 32
          An article about the spearhead of progress.
          1. 0
            8 August 2021 08: 02
            And the evolution from a stone knife to a folding knife, and even able to perform many other functions, isn't it the spearhead of progress?
    2. +4
      8 August 2021 13: 06
      Quote: Xlor
      For some reason you missed the Swiss multifunctional knives ...
      Thanks for the article!


      There will be a separate article about multitools.
      1. +1
        8 August 2021 22: 09
        There will be a separate article about multitools.

        Are they worth a separate article? About them, and so the fig was written. Maybe it's better to write about super-expensive products? About 10 years ago, I saw an advertisement on the internet for Japanese kitchen knives for 200 sput per piece. What kind of knives are these? My friend then bought himself various ceramic (then they were new and costly) and boasted to me - they say, look how cool I am. Then I offered him to buy Japanese - he saw the price tag, so his eyes climbed onto his forehead)))
        1. -1
          8 August 2021 22: 12
          Quote: MBRBS
          There will be a separate article about multitools.

          Are they worth a separate article? About them, and so the fig was written. Maybe it's better to write about super-expensive products? About 10 years ago, I saw an advertisement on the internet for Japanese kitchen knives for 200 sput per piece. What kind of knives are these? My friend then bought himself various ceramic (then they were new and costly) and boasted to me - they say, look how cool I am. Then I offered him to buy Japanese - he saw the price tag, so his eyes climbed onto his forehead)))


          They are definitely worth it. If in my life I was asked to choose a knife or a multitool (speculatively), then it would definitely be a multitool.

          Expensive knives - I don't know anything about Japanese kitchen knives, the topic is specific, I'm afraid to screw it up. And other super-expensive knives are already designer products, just luxury items.
  4. +6
    8 August 2021 06: 25
    Ehehe ... "Any trifle can become the main business of your life ..."
    But how the people have pushed the folding knife-making forward lately! Nice and comfortable, you don't want to let go of it. Pleases the look of boys in the shower.
  5. +6
    8 August 2021 07: 45
    The best knife in your pocket.
    1. +4
      8 August 2021 13: 42
      Quote: zxc15682
      The best knife in your pocket.

  6. +9
    8 August 2021 07: 48
    A normal person should have 2 knives with him. Everything else is pathology. laughing
    1. +6
      8 August 2021 08: 15
      Lately I've been wearing one and it's a Leatherman Skeletool multitool.
      1. +3
        8 August 2021 10: 52
        I think he's a little bit dear and heavy wassat This is not a knife or a screwdriver or normal pliers ... ballast wink
        1. +4
          8 August 2021 13: 06
          Quote: zxc15682
          I think he's a little bit dear and heavy wassat This is not a knife or a screwdriver or normal pliers ... ballast wink


          Not very expensive and not very heavy. Specifically, I don't have a skeleton, but in general a "cartoon" is an incredibly useful thing. You can't drag the toolbox with you, but you can squeeze the equipment with it, and file what, take out the sting, etc.
        2. +3
          8 August 2021 18: 28
          The multitool from Leserman was a great help in water trips: both during the assembly and disassembly of the trimaran, an assistant, and with sharp scissors to trim the braid after the knot. I have several respected knives: from my grandfather's hunting knife in a wooden scabbard, his own gift with a fork-spoon, etc. This multitool is among them.
    2. +3
      9 August 2021 12: 07
      Quote: zxc15682
      A normal person should have 2 knives with him. Everything else is pathology. laughing
      - I slowly looked around and realized that I was surrounded by some abnormal.... not a single familiar knife carries a knife ...
      Che to do that - some psychos are around, they go without knives ...

      ZV There is a NAZ aviation knife in the car (model 1990 - with gray overlays).
      1. 0
        9 August 2021 20: 51
        And now another question is why is a man without a knife? Or why does a person carry with him from 3 to 10 knives? Well, for example in the forest?
        1. +2
          9 August 2021 22: 11
          Quote: zxc15682
          And now another question is why is a man without a knife? Or why does a person carry with him from 3 to 10 knives? Well, for example in the forest?
          - those people - whom I know, take with them to the forest 1 (!!!!) a knife - a universal for everything. People whom I knew - to the war - also took 1 (ONE) knife, not 3 and not 5 ...
          Those who like to carry 10 knives with them - I don’t know, God had mercy on such knives ..
          If a knife cannot perform a task, then this is a task. NOT for the KNIFE, and for the ax / saw / wrench / grenade ....

          I know a man who sharpens a knife for 4 hours - and then yells at his wife that she cuts tomatoes incorrectly with them. Well, you can't do anything here - a clinic ...

          1. 0
            9 August 2021 22: 56
            Well, in every case, carry 2 knives laughing
            1. 0
              10 August 2021 11: 17
              Quote: zxc15682
              Well, in every case, carry 2 knives laughing

              Quote: your1970
              ... In the car, there is a NAZ aircraft knife (model 1990 - with gray overlays).

              What's more? feel
    3. +3
      11 August 2021 11: 14
      Every man should have two bits. One of his own and the other is real. :)
  7. +8
    8 August 2021 08: 11
    You have not yet mentioned the Kershevsky assist - a spring in the handle that pushes the blade when starting, of course, not all knife lovers like it, but it works swiftly. I have 6 folds from Kershaw and all with assists.
    1. +1
      8 August 2021 14: 31
      Quote: sibiryouk
      You have not yet mentioned the Kershevsky assist - a spring in the handle that pushes the blade when starting, of course, not all knife lovers like it, but it works swiftly. I have 6 folds from Kershaw and all with assists.


      There is also one - Blur on s30v.
  8. exo
    +3
    8 August 2021 11: 24
    I have a lot of Emersons, but the opening with the help of wifa did not work. I wear everything in cases.
    One-handed opening has become so quick and convenient that it practically makes automatic opening knives unnecessary.
    I liked the article, thank you!
  9. +2
    8 August 2021 17: 17
    I often go to the mountains for work, And also many different knives have passed through my hands, but for the last 6 years I have been using only 2 homemade products from CPM S30V and S 90V. One is large for rough work (tent pegs, etc.), and the other is thin and not large for tomatoes and meat. The steel is VERY good ... I recommend it.
    1. +1
      8 August 2021 17: 53
      Quote: Yarik
      I often go to the mountains for work, And also many different knives have passed through my hands, but for the last 6 years I have been using only 2 homemade products from CPM S30V and S 90V. One is large for rough work (tent pegs, etc.), and the other is thin and not large for tomatoes and meat. The steel is VERY good ... I recommend it.


      Are there any problems with sharpening the S90V in the field?
  10. -1
    8 August 2021 21: 10
    Folding knives in the city .... Well, very much an amateur. And in nature - in nature it's just a perversion and stupid show-offs. No matter how much I walked in nature alone, I always took a set: either a small light knife and an ax, or a large knife (total length approx. 30 - 32 cm) and a hacksaw (such as a lopper).
    1. 0
      8 August 2021 22: 21
      Quote: acetophenon
      Folding knives in the city .... Well, very much an amateur. And in nature - in nature it's just a perversion and stupid show-offs. No matter how much I walked in nature alone, I always took a set: either a small light knife and an ax, or a large knife (total length approx. 30 - 32 cm) and a hacksaw (such as a lopper).


      Do not know. I have always and everywhere carried a knife on my pocket for many years, from the late 90s - early 2000s. Without it, I just feel uncomfortable. In "civilian" clothes, this is usually Kershaw Bloor:


      Out of town Cold Steel Immortal:


      And my first, relatively high-quality knife was bought in my opinion in 2000:


      I have rarely worn an ax in nature. There is always a lot of dead wood for a fire, I do not plan to build anything.

      Here is a multitool Lazerman in a backpack always. And by the way, his small wood saw is very aggressive, it is relatively easy to cut down a tree up to 10 cm in diameter.
  11. +3
    8 August 2021 21: 27
    Personally, I carry a knife with me all the time. I need it) Of course, there are no additional tools in my knives, and I am bewildered by lovers of knives like the Swiss one. But a sharp blade is needed all the time - from opening packages to cutting off the thread from clothes. Actually, I always carry a small screwdriver with me)
    What can you say about the delights described in the article? Well, first of all, a folding knife MUST fold down once, if you have a habit of resting with a point somewhere when working. The more hi-tech the lock that locks the blade, the more often this shit fails and fails. Always hold your folding knife correctly! Bearings, balls, rags of any kind, but if you hold the knife so that your fingers are across the gap into which the blade goes, you are risking them, and one day your risk will exceed reasonable limits.
    Secondly, with the constant carrying of a folding knife, especially in a bag or some kind of container in the car, this knife will sort it out into details. If there is at least one screw in it, that screw will loosen (and be lost, of course). No thread retainers can save you from this. All balls, rollers, stoppers, cheeks will be piled up in bulk just when you really need a knife.
    A folding knife is a very convenient and necessary thing, but you cannot rely on it.
    1. +1
      8 August 2021 23: 57
      Quote: Mikhail3

      Secondly, with the constant carrying of a folding knife, especially in a bag or some container in the car, this knife will be taken apart into details. If there is at least one screw in it, that screw will loosen (and be lost, of course). No thread retainers can save you from this.
      USSR folding knife
      Good old classic ...
      good
      1. -2
        9 August 2021 09: 20
        Yes. Only the handle is better from a bent sheet of metal. Then such a knife can serve entire generations. He has not lost his need now, and is unlikely to ever lose. Although, of course, a knife is like a "foot blade", a boot-cutter, an incoherent, not too large blade, is better, of course. But alas, the state is very much afraid ...
    2. 0
      9 August 2021 10: 23
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Personally, I carry a knife with me all the time. I need it) Of course, there are no additional tools in my knives, and I am bewildered by lovers of knives like the Swiss one. But a sharp blade is needed all the time - from opening packages to cutting off the thread from clothes. Actually, I always carry a small screwdriver with me)


      For most people who do not perform power work with a knife, a Swiss knife is just the most convenient - cut a sausage, open a bottle, cut off a thread, unscrew a screw and stuff like that. Swiss knives do not bother the police at all, and neither do those around them.

      For me, a multitool is always the second tool (outside the city), to an ordinary knife.

      Quote: Mikhail3
      What can you say about the delights described in the article? Well, first of all, a folding knife MUST fold down once, if you have a habit of resting with a point somewhere when working. The more hi-tech the lock that locks the blade, the more often this shit fails and fails. Always hold your folding knife correctly!


      I can't even imagine what needs to be done to put together a quality knife with a triadlock and a framelock. Rather, you will simply break the blade, and with the effort required to do this, the fix will also break.

      Quote: Mikhail3
      Bearings, balls, rags of any kind, but if you hold the knife so that your fingers are across the gap into which the blade goes, you are risking them, and one day your risk will exceed reasonable limits.


      Bearings and balls have nothing to do with the lock, they are only for smooth running.

      Quote: Mikhail3
      Secondly, with the constant carrying of a folding knife, especially in a bag or some kind of container in the car, this knife will sort it out into details. If there is at least one screw in it, that screw will loosen (and be lost, of course). No thread retainers can save you from this. All balls, rollers, stoppers, cheeks will be piled up in bulk just when you really need a knife.
      A folding knife is a very convenient and necessary thing, but you cannot rely on it.


      Throughout my life, actively using knives from different manufacturers, the scenario described by you has never happened. At the maximum, the axial screw was loosened slightly (very slightly) and a backlash appeared on the verge of sensitivity (most would not even notice it, but in this respect a perfectionist).

      It seems that you only used Chinese folding knives for 500 rubles. maximum. Or just love fixes, and you are trying to back up your love with the imaginary shortcomings of folding knives.
      1. -1
        9 August 2021 12: 30
        Quote: AVM
        For most people who do not do power work with a knife, a Swiss knife is just the most convenient

        A hefty tile in your pocket is inconvenient. I'm not talking about a gnarled blade sticking out from the side. Are you a pedestrian by conviction? I personally drive a normal set of instruments in my car. Multitool ... "A universal tool, this is a tool that does everything equally badly."
        Quote: AVM
        I can't even imagine what needs to be done to fold a quality knife with triadlock and framelock

        Try to pierce the thick leather of a belt, for example. Many times the knife will work fine, and one day the lock will fail. Will definitely hand over. Checked, and not only by me) You have no idea, because so far you have not used it much yet. You have everything ahead)
        Quote: AVM
        Bearings and balls have nothing to do with the lock, they are only for smooth running.

        A bursting brake hose has nothing to do with you at all, but Saint Peter will have to explain something) Why this is bullshit, it doesn't matter at all. It's just that when the cogs-bolts are unscrewed, it all plays a role in the destruction of the knife.
        Quote: AVM
        Throughout my life, actively using knives from different manufacturers, the scenario you described has never happened

        This means that either your life is still very short, or you hardly use knives. I usually weld a shank from a hairpin onto the blade after the next "knife in bulk" and make another non-folding knife. For the most part, I distribute such knives to friends for a ruble. If the knife once failed you, or took your blood on the blade, you can no longer trust it.
        I'm not trying to back up anything, I'm just sharing my experience. Playing "I'm the right one here" is boring for me.
        1. -1
          9 August 2021 12: 57
          Quote: Mikhail3
          Quote: AVM
          For most people who do not do power work with a knife, a Swiss knife is just the most convenient

          A hefty tile in your pocket is inconvenient. I'm not talking about a gnarled blade sticking out from somewhere on the side ...


          It's not the same for everybody. I myself am not a fan of Swiss knives as a constant carry tool. But I have other complaints about them - there is no normal fixation of the blade, bad steel, no screws - you cannot tighten the structure at your discretion, therefore, from the multitools my choice is Lazerman.

          Quote: Mikhail3
          Quote: AVM
          I can't even imagine what needs to be done to fold a quality knife with triadlock and framelock

          Try to pierce the thick leather of a belt, for example. Many times the knife will work fine, and one day the lock will fail. Will definitely hand over. Checked, and not only by me) You have no idea, because so far you have not used it much yet. You have everything ahead)


          Still, I wonder what kind of knife models they were? Of course, there is a theoretical likelihood of folding, although there are folding knives in which the blade, if necessary to carry out well, very power work, can be additionally fixed with a pin, after which it will not fold at all:



          I see only two reasons why the knife might fold:

          1. Poor quality knife - unknown Chinese brands, knives not intended for power work. Try Cold Steel Immortal or Cold Steel SR-1.

          2. Inattentive user - heavily soiled knife, unclosed lock (not fully open blade), etc.

          Of course, the fix is ​​more convenient for some kind of work and you can follow it less. But it’s like someone who can carry something large and not serve or comfortable to wear, but requiring a little more attention.

          Quote: Mikhail3
          What this bullshit is for is completely irrelevant. It's just that when the cogs-bolts are unscrewed, it all plays a role in the destruction of the knife.


          I cannot understand this in any way. In general, I can not imagine that the knife itself fell apart and unwound. How does it work? Or does a person not use a knife, he has been in a bag for 10 years and suddenly the user discovers a bunch of details? Or does he use a knife, sees that the knife starts to play, but completely ignores the problem until the knife completely collapses? One screw is unscrewed - do not care, the second is the same. Indeed, in an hour or even a day, the knife will not unwind by itself, it will take months, or even years. There is also a radical way - fixing with superglue. Self-disassembly becomes impossible in principle. But if necessary, it is already very difficult to disassemble such a knife yourself.

          Quote: Mikhail3
          … I usually weld a shank from a hairpin onto the blade after the next "knife in bulk" and make another non-folding knife. For the most part, I distribute such knives to friends for a ruble. If the knife once failed you, or took your blood on the blade, you can no longer trust it.


          But what are these folding knives? Give at least one or two examples.

          Quote: Mikhail3
          I'm not trying to back up anything, I'm just sharing my experience. Playing "I'm the right one here" is boring for me.


          Your position is incomprehensible and interesting to me, hence the questions.
    3. 0
      23 August 2021 23: 37
      Stop using outright garbage from Chinese breakdowns, and buy yourself a normal real folding knife, and not a dummy, then there will be no ridiculous phobias
      1. 0
        24 August 2021 10: 53
        I have) But you can't rely on such. In principle, it is impossible. When people quote the Japanese who say that "if you need a sword once in a lifetime, you have to wear it every day," they usually do not understand what they are talking about. And the principle is serious and universal.
        When applied to this case, it means that anything that can break will break. And at the moment when you need it most. A non-folding blade can also burst just before you need to save your life, but the probability of this is ten times lower, since such a knife consists of one part, and a folding knife consists of several dozen.
        Since several times in my life I found myself in a situation where there was nothing to count on except a knife, this is important for me. Basically, sophisticated folding knives replace an adult with his toy pistol, and the toy is the defining word here. A speck caught in a spring is too stupid for my survival to depend on it. Yes, "the knife must be looked after." And the speck will fall under the spring in three minutes after thorough cleaning. And kirdyk. Nafig such progress ... A folding knife, in principle, is several times less reliable than not a folding one, but as toys I have other items. I hope the absence of "ridiculous phobias" will not cost you your life and health. There will come a time when you have to go back to basic methods and basic techniques ...
        1. +1
          24 September 2021 07: 40
          Phobia set
          The most important thing in a knife is to have it at hand when you need it.
          A folding knife is a hundred times more convenient to carry - hung on your pocket and that's it
          Therefore, you can say as much as you like that the fix is ​​more reliable, if you have a fix with you, there are no questions. But if the choice is between nothing and folding, then the folding taxis
          1. 0
            24 September 2021 09: 29
            Agree. I mostly wear a folding one myself. But if something is supposed to be even more serious, fold to the side, and something more reliable is taken. Into the forest, already with the combat one.
  12. +1
    9 August 2021 18: 49
    Be careful in the forest belt!
    Who walk with knives
    Mushroom pickers are not all!
  13. 0
    9 August 2021 20: 58
    IMHO 2 knives are enough.
    1. Victorinox

    2. Otus from Kizlyar, somewhat reminiscent of fin Peltonen's knife

    Both are compact, lightweight, comfortable, inexpensive. Together they cover all needs.
  14. 0
    16 August 2021 13: 56
    I've been wearing multitools since the late 90s. I use it along with a pocket knife. Both things systematically work for me - for someone they do not need it at all. Personal choice of everyone))
  15. +3
    17 August 2021 20: 48
    Neutral opinion: I read the article and comments very late. I liked the content and lack of "shy general commentators")) with a smile.
    The only thing left is to sincerely thank the Author for the photo of "Soviet knives from not only my childhood.
    1. +1
      23 August 2021 23: 49
      The lion's share of the "commentators" did not hold a good jackknife in their hands. Not to mention wearing them. One writes about "a heavy knife with a blade 3 mm in thickness", the second "the knives are unscrewed and folded on the fingers." The third prides himself on not carrying a knife with him, but has come to the knife topic. The fourth was seriously going to sharpen in nature a folding knife made of S90V steel. Are there really adults here?
      It is ridiculous to perceive a multitool with a knife, this is an MFP, and it would be better if there was no knife in it at all - it stupidly takes the place of a much more useful tool, and the function of the knife is provided by a folder on the pocket
  16. 0
    26 August 2021 21: 04
    As always, any complication of the object's design reduces its reliability. A folding knife is a significant complication compared to a fixed knife. Compactness? This is very arbitrary. In extraction speed, all one fold loses to a fixed. Powder steels? Interestingly, and who sharpened himself or at least ruled the knife? I remember. as not being particularly able to try to rule a rather stupid (well, this one got in my opinion) Kim's Krivotolk. Triangle, musat ... I got stuck, took up diamond abrasives and did not notice how I grinded off the working corner of the blade.)) Here I was swearing! But this was not some kind of super steel, but 95x18. true with a good TMO. Somewhere in the taiga it will not always be possible to carry with you an apex with special abrasives, and there may not be much time for sharpening, and the knife should always be sharp. The habitat of a folding knife, and even made of "cool" steel, is the urban jungle. It's not worth taking into real ones. IMHO.
  17. 0
    11 September 2021 21: 08
    Gee-gee-gee ... Again! Are sales really so lousy? From the first article there was something to laugh at, from the second even more. No, good alloys have never been used to make old knives. And no, there is no "progress" in toys for young children. A few primitive parts, some friction bearings and springs, are not progress. It's a game. Shoving cool alloys into knives is not development, it is stupidity, childhood in its worst manifestations, which, alas, are in childhood. The author, I understand, we need to sell all these gags. But don't you yourself see how ridiculous and pathetic all these things are ?! OK. Whatever the child is amused ...
  18. 0
    22 October 2021 00: 38
    The knife is primarily a utilitarian object and is primarily intended for cutting.
    With the right knife, you can pin a sentry, cook food, chop wood blocks for a fire.
    Children's artsy toys - folding beds can only be played about. All sorts of hangings for girls on folding beds are especially touching.
  19. 0
    28 January 2022 18: 36
    Why the article - to publish under your own name? The knife as a tool implements three main actions: stabs, saws, cuts. For various practical applications, not all actions are in demand because there are characteristic movements. The amplitude of movement, the normally applicable effort in each of its phases - this follows from a natural need, not vice versa. Operating conditions also make their own requirements for steel and blade geometry. Talking about steel or the method of fixation and not saying a word about the purpose of steel and the connection with the shape of the blade is like talking about engines in general, doctors in general, or scientific progress in general.
    For cutting fish, a long flexible narrow curved blade can be useful - fillet, heavy wide 2.5 long for skinning or separating fins / bones ... - Japanese deba, light long straight - for slicing (like a chef's sushi) and that's it it's just for the fish. A set of "field dressing" (skinning and butchering game) can consist of 4 to 12 devices. These are examples of how "generally about the knife" - nothing. But even for filleting fish, it makes sense both in a flexible and rigid knife; would it be good to hold a sharpening or was it just to edit? should it be stainless?.. different answers to this question will determine different steel, hardening, sharpening and, in the end, working qualities with regular use.
    From the comments, we can conclude that a de knife is needed mainly in the taiga. To put it mildly, this is not all. Each of us in the kitchen should use something. The difference determines not only the speed of work, but also safety, joy from luck or frustration from inconvenience. This need is much closer to everyone and covers the audience more than "folds". But in the kitchen it is completely useless to talk about the degree of reliability of the blade fixation mechanism, which is essentially what the bulk of the text is devoted to.
    Nadys and his brother discussed which knife to throw in the trunk in the new season, and he boasted of a successful purchase of a Victorinox with Vanger scissors (they have a more reliable mechanism). I explained why I do not need to give the same one, although I recognize it as very useful and successful in the size of 13cm. Because I have already lost more than a dozen Victorinox and now I need a specific sling cutter without a lock - this is a requirement of local law. I mean, choosing a knife is a) awareness of regular needs b) experience or information c) the question of the rationality of owning an object for your money ... well, and other aspects, such as legal ones. Steel or technology is all great, but it only makes sense in a very narrow field of choice, when you understand exactly what you want, what is available for purchase and compare what you get in terms of personal preferences.

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