In the Czech Republic, the UAZ electric car was released earlier than in Russia

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The Czech company MW Motors has created an electric car, making a deep modernization of the Russian off-road vehicle UAZ Hunter. The changes consist in the fact that instead of an internal combustion engine, an AC electric motor with a capacity of 163 horsepower was installed, and also replaced the usual analog instrument panel in the cabin with a digital display.

This is reported by Tesla Magazine.



The cost of this car starts from 40 thousand euros, and it was launched on sale. Buyers are offered versions with right-hand and left-hand drive.

In terms of weight, the new electric SUV, dubbed the Spartan EV, is 120 kilograms heavier than the usual Hunter. Its cruising range is 240 km. It is worth noting that the car has a fast charging system, which allows it to "refuel" during the driver's lunch break.

As the Russian edition notes Gazeta.ru, in the Czech Republic, the UAZ electric car was released earlier than in Russia, because at the Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant itself, such cars are not yet made.

The publication suggests that such a car would not be successful in the domestic Russian market due to the high price and lack of the necessary infrastructure for the operation of electric vehicles. And it is easier to enter the European market with this product if it will be manufactured by an enterprise located in one of the European countries.
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  1. 0
    6 August 2021 16: 04
    The changes consist in the fact that instead of an internal combustion engine, an AC electric motor with a capacity of 163 horsepower was installed, and also replaced the usual analog instrument panel in the cabin with a digital display.
    And where was the battery attached?
    In terms of weight, the new electric SUV, dubbed the Spartan EV, is 120 kilograms heavier than the usual Hunter.

    And it's not a bad traction battery to carry on, given that the electric motor is lighter than the internal combustion engine
    And it is not clear how they cool this electric motor, the windows of the radiator grille are tightly closed.
    1. +1
      6 August 2021 16: 15
      Quote: svp67
      And where was the battery attached?

      Surely there is no way out there, in the engine compartment, in the trunk, firstly, misalignment, and secondly, it is dangerous to keep, in fact, a lithium-ion battery in the cabin.
    2. +7
      6 August 2021 16: 34
      And it is not clear how they cool this electric motor, the windows of the radiator grille are tightly closed.

      With water. The engine is water-cooled.
      1. +3
        6 August 2021 16: 37
        Quote: Undecim
        With water. The engine is water-cooled.

        How is water cooled? After all, it also needs to be cooled
        1. The comment was deleted.
          1. +1
            6 August 2021 16: 45
            Quote: Avior
            Conventional radiator

            Well, how to say, the usual one was installed in the nose of the car and had a controlled louver grill, and here in its place there is a deaf lining, that is, the air supply is limited
            1. +4
              6 August 2021 16: 57
              Well, how to say, the usual one was installed in the nose of the car and had a controlled louver grill, and here in its place there is a deaf lining, that is, the air supply is limited

              The car has an ordinary radiator covered with a mesh. The fan is controlled by a microprocessor.
              1. +1
                6 August 2021 16: 59
                Quote: Undecim
                The fan is controlled by a microprocessor.

                Did they put this on the UAZ now?
                The UAZ is missing. Where are the difficulties during its operation, which must be overcome
                1. +11
                  6 August 2021 17: 03
                  The difficulties persisted. They sit tightly in the brain, as evidenced by someone's minus under the comment that the engine is cooled with water. Well, a person cannot comprehend - difficulties!
                  1. +3
                    6 August 2021 17: 25
                    Quote: Undecim
                    Well, a person cannot comprehend - difficulties!

                    Greetings, Colleague! hi Do you know how our electric cars are customs?
                    1. +3
                      6 August 2021 18: 07
                      Until May 4, 2020, for legal entities and individuals in the EAEU countries, the rates for the import of electric vehicles were 15% of their value. On May 4, the new EAEU rules came into force, according to which customs duties are canceled, temporarily, until December 31, 2021. You will have to pay for customs clearance, excise tax - depends on capacity, VAT 20% of the cost (Russian budget), for a certificate (certification) of vehicle safety, Era-Glonass, recycling fee. After registration - payment of transport tax.
                      what Earlier, the Government of the Russian Federation stated that the owners of electric cars are exempted from paying transport tax, it is necessary to pay Art. 358 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation, are not exempt ...
                      Tax is not charged:
                      in Moscow and Moscow region;
                      S.-Pb;
                      Kaluga region;
                      Lipetsk region;
                      The Republic of Kabardino-Balkaria;
                      The Tyumen region;
                      Amur region;
                      Kursk region;
                      Irkutsk region.

                      My regions of residence are not included in this list. sad
                      1. +3
                        6 August 2021 18: 10
                        Quote: Lynx2000
                        My regions of residence are not included in this list.

                        Mine too crying I can register for my brother in Leningrad ..
                        Everything for the people is done by his servants sad
                      2. +2
                        6 August 2021 18: 15
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Mine too crying I can register for my brother in Leningrad ..
                        Everything for the people is done by his servants sad

                        laughing If Leningrad ... buy Aurus, and you will have happiness and benefits !!! wink I heard that the Supreme Commander-in-Chief personally signs on the lid of the glove box of this car ...
                      3. +2
                        6 August 2021 18: 21
                        Quote: Lynx2000
                        If Leningrad ... buy Aurus, and you will have happiness and benefits !!! I heard that the Supreme Commander-in-Chief personally signs on the lid of the glove box of this car ...

                        Eh-heh, Kamrad, I would even go all over the place and get credits from swindlers in "quick money" if I knew for sure that in the very glove box there would be his decree on his personal resignation with his own signature. Yes
                      4. +1
                        6 August 2021 18: 25
                        laughing When the (army rank of sergeant) was dismissed as a police captain, he himself, "did not leave," sang a song: I did not serve for titles and orders ...
                        "Personal resignation" implies a very high level of responsibility, usually with the appointment of governor .... laughing
                      5. +1
                        6 August 2021 18: 32
                        Quote: Lynx2000
                        When the (army rank of sergeant) was dismissed as a police captain, he himself, "did not leave," sang a song: I did not serve for titles and orders ...
                        "Personal resignation" implies a very high level of responsibility, usually with the appointment of governor ....

                        Eh, comrade sergeant, if everyone, becoming captains of the Ministry of Internal Affairs served, as in a song, there is no current for captains of governors' places in the ap what They have their own lieutenant colonels on us fellow
                      6. +1
                        6 August 2021 18: 35
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Eh, comrade sergeant, if everyone, becoming captains of the Ministry of Internal Affairs served, as in a song, there is no current for captains of governors' places in the ap what They have their own lieutenant colonels on us fellow

                        An operative (not mature enough to be a senior). In general - golden words! That's why he left. laughing
                2. +2
                  6 August 2021 17: 24
                  Quote: svp67
                  Did they put this on the UAZ now?
                  The UAZ is missing. Where are the difficulties during its operation, which must be overcome

                  Colleague, the UAZ got a rebirth!) Imagine that the passable potential remained with it, including all blockages, and 240 km of passage and a maximum speed of 130 km / h for such a heavy, full-fledged SUV is MASTER.
                  The only thing that is not entirely true in the article, Duc is the price,
                  the manufacturer offers a price range from 30 to 40 thousand dollars, depending on the configuration.
                  If it were not for the Naiebulin increase in the dollar exchange rate and the barbaric horse customs duties, then the price tag would have been close to us.
                  1. +2
                    6 August 2021 22: 58
                    passable potential he still has
                    Quite an increase - the torque of electric motors is much higher than the internal combustion engine and is issued at any speed. But staying with a dead battery somewhere in the wilderness is another option. You can't put a canister of electricity in the trunk and you can't get it in the village.
                    1. +1
                      6 August 2021 23: 14
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      But staying with a dead battery somewhere in the wilderness is another option. You can't put a canister of electricity in the trunk and you can't get it in the village.

                      I agree that it is risky for pokatushek, and I personally do not understand the consumption of electricity (charge) off-road. what
                    2. +1
                      7 August 2021 02: 23
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      But staying with a dead battery somewhere in the wilderness is another option. You can't put a canister of electricity in the trunk and you can't get it in the village.

                      Ordinary electric generator running on gasoline. And the possibilities of an electric vehicle with a portable gasoline electric generator are almost endless.
                3. 0
                  7 August 2021 02: 19
                  Quote: svp67
                  The UAZ is missing. Where are the difficulties during its operation, which must be overcome

                  I drove on an electric motor off-road and everything went into difficulties, well, of course, you can carry a generator with you to charge the batteries.
    3. 0
      6 August 2021 17: 20
      And that the Czech Republic has a patent, I didn't know)
      1. -3
        7 August 2021 03: 33
        Quote: Wend
        And that the Czech Republic has a patent, I didn't know)

        People rushed to discuss technical nuances, cooling, batteries .... The main thing was not noticed. Although Gazeta.ru is not recognized as a foreign agent, it’s clear for a long time with whose money the schnitzel orders itself, and here again -
        As the Russian newspaper Gazeta.ru notes, the UAZ electric car was released in the Czech Republic earlier than in Russia, because at the Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant itself, such machines are not yet made.

        I saw in this the position of the publication something like "the Czechs did it, but in Ulyanovsk they didn't. They don't know how, that's right! ..."

        I would like to ask Gazeta.ru: "And what - in Ulyanovsk they really wanted to, set a task for themselves? And it didn't work out?" Let Gazeta.ru follow the words more carefully. We would like to - on the same Chinese batteries and engines with Ali, they would have collected it long ago. Only who in Russia needs a "Hunter" for 40-50 European money with a cruising range of 240 kilometers? It is not enough to go hunting and fishing (the main and best purpose of any UAZ brainchild in a peaceful life), but to drive around the city to work and back in such a gilded scarecrow will make homeless people from the garbage dump in the backyard of the office laugh ...
    4. +1
      6 August 2021 17: 39
      Quote: svp67
      The changes consist in the fact that instead of an internal combustion engine, an AC electric motor with a capacity of 163 horsepower was installed, and also replaced the usual analog instrument panel in the cabin with a digital display.
      And where was the battery attached?
      In terms of weight, the new electric SUV, dubbed the Spartan EV, is 120 kilograms heavier than the usual Hunter.

      And it's not a bad traction battery to carry on, given that the electric motor is lighter than the internal combustion engine
      And it is not clear how they cool this electric motor, the windows of the radiator grille are tightly closed.

      In addition to the electric / engine, it is also necessary to cool the batteries, two types of cooling: air or liquid. Which battery is not listed. Li-ion?
      In my opinion, the basic version of the Hummer EV (pickup) with two electric motors (range of at least 450 km) is declared by the Americans to cost 70'000 USD.
      Electric cars Ford Mustang Mach-E (crossover) 4WD from 255 to 355 hp in Russia are sold from 4 rubles. up to 500 rubles.
    5. +1
      6 August 2021 18: 59
      This is all good, of course, but the UAZ will rot faster than the battery with dviglom will die
      1. -1
        7 August 2021 01: 13
        Quote: Clever man
        This is all good, of course, but the UAZ will rot faster than the battery with dviglom will die

        Do not worry...
        The batteries run out very quickly.
        No wonder the London police began to limit the scope of non-home cars.
    6. -3
      7 August 2021 00: 52
      Quote: svp67
      The changes consist in the fact that instead of an internal combustion engine, an AC electric motor with a capacity of 163 horsepower was installed, and also replaced the usual analog instrument panel in the cabin with a digital display.
      And where was the battery attached?
      In terms of weight, the new electric SUV, dubbed the Spartan EV, is 120 kilograms heavier than the usual Hunter.

      And it's not a bad traction battery to carry on, given that the electric motor is lighter than the internal combustion engine
      And it is not clear how they cool this electric motor, the windows of the radiator grille are tightly closed.

      Why cool the electric motor?
      I am wildly sorry, but as far as I know, under-cars lack excess heat dissipation, unlike normal cars with internal combustion engines.
      1. +2
        7 August 2021 01: 27
        Quote: kulinar

        Why cool the electric motor?
        .
        electric motor
        The photo is perfectly visible FAN
        Any engine heats up during operation - there is a fan on each electric motor and there are radiator fins - the same for cooling.
        hi
        1. -1
          7 August 2021 01: 45
          Quote: cat Rusich
          Quote: kulinar

          Why cool the electric motor?
          .
          electric motor
          The photo is perfectly visible FAN
          Any engine heats up during operation - there is a fan on each electric motor and there are radiator fins - the same for cooling.
          hi

          This is yes!
          But not an additional cooling system like an internal combustion engine!
          The heat loss of the electric motor is much less. Even Zaporozhets and some kind of Porsche, got by with air cooling.
  2. +2
    6 August 2021 16: 22
    "....As noted by the Russian newspaper Gazeta.ru, the Czech Republic released the UAZ electric car earlier than in Russia, because at the Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant itself, such cars are not yet made..... "
    ========
    So it seems they are not going to ..... Not those distances! This is for the Czech Republic - 240 km, this is considered half of the country you can drive, but in Mother Russia it's just zilch! And in the city on electric UAZ dangle - somehow not comme il faut! This is definitely not a "city" car! request
    1. -4
      6 August 2021 17: 49
      Quote: venik
      So it seems they are not going to ..... Not those distances! This is for the Czech Republic - 240 km, and that's half of the country you can drive, but in Mother Russia it's just zilch! And to wander around the city in an electric UAZ is somehow not comme il faut! This is definitely not a "city" car!

      and you, apparently, an inveterate car enthusiast ?! lol
      Unfortunately, you do not understand that after 240 km, you will have lunch, during this time the car will be refueled and you will drive another 240 km, after which you will eat a sandwich again, recover from need, have a smoke and drive another 240 km. okay after sleep and so on ad infinitum fellow
      Only your trip will cost you at least 10 times cheaper in fuel !!!
      But such a freebie does not threaten us ...

      PySy. Electric cars in our country will not be produced in the foreseeable future, since this, in the opinion of the president and in accordance with his decree of May 13, 2019 No. 216 on the new Energy Security Doctrine of the Russian Federation, where in Chapter 2, paragraphs 8-9, it says , what "The challenges and threats to energy security, risks in the field of energy security of the Russian Federation are: ...
      f) an increase in the share of renewable energy sources in the global fuel and energy balance.
      9. The foreign policy challenge to energy security is the intensification of international efforts to implement climate policy and accelerate the transition to a "green economy".
      1. +2
        6 August 2021 19: 06
        Here you go in the winter to a remote village and stand there for a week. Can you come back or will you stay there? What can happen to the gasoline in the tank? And nothing will happen to him. But electricity can slowly seep and dissolve.
        1. +3
          6 August 2021 22: 11
          What should I do ? Take a gasoline generator with you!
          1. +1
            7 August 2021 03: 41
            Quote: swnvaleria
            What should I do ? Take a gasoline generator with you!

            There are at least a couple of other options - to carry six guest workers with you everywhere to push them to the outlet, or to buy a normal UAZ with a normal engine. And on this let Green Greta ride around the baobab ...
      2. +3
        6 August 2021 20: 30
        Quote: Stroporez
        and you, apparently, an inveterate car enthusiast ?!

        =======
        Well, I would not call myself "inveterate" .... But "experienced" is for sure .... Since my Dad put me behind the wheel of "Victory" in less than 9 years .... experience significantly exceeds half a century! Although he got his driver's license in 1980 ... Although he was not a professional driver, he didn’t have to drive ... right up to the BTR-152V ...
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        Quote: Stroporez
        Unfortunately, you do not understand that after 240 km, you will have lunch, during this time the car will be refueled and you will drive another 240 km.

        ========
        Alas! for example, from Krasnoyarsk to Dzerzhinsky (one of the closest regional centers to Krasnoyarsk) is more than 340 km! At the same time, along the road - not only stations Recharging electric vehicles, there is not even a gas station there! Well, at least it was even 15 years ago ... Maybe something has changed now ...
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        Quote: Stroporez
        Unfortunately, you do not understand that after 240 km, you will have lunch

        =======
        When my wife and I last went to Crimea (and that was 8 years ago), we stopped to "have lunch" and refuel - every 550 - 600 km (from us to Sudak - somewhere about 2 thousand km ... you say 240 ...
        We wouldn't have made it in a week!

        PS But what does the "presidential decrees" have to do with it? Have you ever been to the Czech Republic? I - it happened ... In the same place from north to south - 250 kilometers, and from east to west - no more than 400 km! And settlements - every 3-5 km (in ANY direction!). And you here (Sorry!) Are breeding some kind of "conspiracy" ....
        Have a good weekend! drinks
        1. 0
          6 August 2021 23: 19
          Quote: venik
          But what does the "presidential decrees" have to do with it? Have you ever been to the Czech Republic? I - it happened ... In the same place from north to south - 250 kilometers, and from east to west - no more than 400 km! And settlements - every 3-5 km (in ANY direction!). And you here (Sorry!) Are breeding some kind of "conspiracy" ....

          My friend, I'm talking about the fact that the automotive industry will develop in the direction of eletro one hundred pudoff.
          Thank you for your kind words, this is now a rarity at VO!
          Good luck to you, and no matter how hot a nail or a wand is being heated! good drinks
          1. +1
            7 August 2021 10: 55
            Quote: Stroporez
            My friend, I'm talking about the fact that the automotive industry will develop in the direction of eletro one hundred pudoff.

            =======
            So it has been developing in this direction for a long time, but so far nothing more successful than a "hybrid" has been invented, although progress in electric vehicles, as they say: "on the face" ..... Well, science and technology do not stand still .... Ultimately, they will come up with something to replace the DVZ!
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            Quote: Stroporez
            Thank you for your kind words, this is now a rarity at VO! Good luck to you, and no matter how hot a nail or a wand is being heated! good

            =======
            And thank you! True, my "driver's career" unfortunately seems to be coming to an end: my old lady Audi-80, who has served with faith and truth for 20 years, recently does not want to drive at all, and it is expensive to repair it all the time ... the latter very sharply "got hooked" ..... drinks
            1. -1
              7 August 2021 22: 26
              Quote: venik
              lately he does not want to travel at all, but it is costly to retire constantly ...

              Mdya, it is a little expensive to maintain a car nowadays, and it is simply impossible to retire, the state "took care" of this.
              1. 0
                7 August 2021 23: 23
                Quote: Stroporez
                Mdya, it is a little expensive to maintain a car nowadays, and it is simply impossible to retire, the state "took care" of this

                ========
                Actually, I'm not inclined to blame the state for everything. Although there are enough questions and complaints .... But here it is according to the principle: "everywhere it is good, where we are not ... ".
                I have a friend in Ukraine (they served together, I owe him my life). Until now, I-no, we correspond, sometimes call each other, although we have not seen each other for a long time .... He is also retired. He did not have time to defend his Ph.D., his research institute collapsed in the late 90s. I had to move to business structures. So he has a pension, you will not believe it, in recalculation it turns out as much as 7200 rubles !!! And this despite the fact that the prices there are practically the same as ours, well, maybe a little lower, but for the "communal apartment" up to 10 (during the heating season, moreover, as he recently wrote from the fall, tariffs will increase even more, and pension - no!). Those. he and his wife (she is also retired) have approx. RUB 000 for two! Not weak?
                Here's another example. Another friend of mine, still a university student in the mid-90s, gave up to Canada for permanent residence. At first he was pushed around, and he is also a candidate of sciences. Then, he passed some exams, received a certificate from the Canadian Society of Engineers (it seems that it is called), and got a job at a small company that was engaged in investigating accidents and disasters at enterprises in the oil and gas sector. He made good money, and his wife got a job as a realtor. In general, they were making good money .... And last year I came to visit my relatives. Met, I ask: How are you? And he is a complete ... (Sorry!) Ass! In the oil and gas industry, another crisis, drilling and plants are closing, our office is barely making ends meet, and even in the real estate market - a complete kirdyk! My wife is sitting practically without work .... I don’t know what will happen next! And when to retire? And he told me - what is the pension? You still have to live to see her, and secondly, not much on this pension and you will clear up ... You will have to plow, you can see, while your legs are wearing and the pot is cooking!
                Such are the things ...
                1. 0
                  8 August 2021 10: 11
                  Quote: venik
                  I have a friend in Ukraine

                  I don't even want to hear anything about the topic of brothers / non-brothers, I'm sick of vomit ..... In addition, we will always find a place to justify ourselves where immersion is even worse, nastier and deeper.
                  We all need to finally understand that the Soviet Union no longer exists, but there is a conditionally capitalist Russian Federation, which in almost all indicators among capitalist countries is not even included in the top 30, and in terms of the level of welfare and well-being of the people, even in the first hundred, so the comparison with Canada (I have been there) is absolutely not correct. First of all, we need to establish life in our country and compare ourselves, what they were and what they have become, and it is not worth nodding at a neighbor whose cow has died.
                  PySy. I thought at least on an electric UAZ to take a break from politada,
                  1. +1
                    9 August 2021 12: 04
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    PySy. I thought at least on an electric UAZ to take a break from politada,

                    ========
                    But where from her, infections get away ... request
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                    Quote: Stroporez
                    First of all, we need to improve life in our country and compare ourselves, what we were and what we have become

                    ========
                    That's right!
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                    Quote: Stroporez
                    comparison with Canada (I've been there) is absolutely not correct

                    ========
                    This comparison was led to the fact that it looks like the world is slowly slipping during a period of some kind of global perturbations, when it can shake all, including the most prosperous ...
                    1. 0
                      9 August 2021 12: 27
                      Quote: venik
                      This comparison led to the fact that it looks like the world is slowly slipping into a period of some kind of global perturbations, when it can shake everyone well, including the most prosperous ...

                      Greetings! hi
                      If global pertrubations begin, then someone will simply shake, and someone will be buried under a layer of debris and ash.
                      "Who is the first to load, the last to jump" -popular paratrooper wisdom lol drinks
                      1. +1
                        9 August 2021 12: 54
                        Good day! hi
                        ----
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        If global pertrubations begin, then someone will simply shake, and someone will be buried under a layer of debris and ash.

                        =======
                        That's right! I wanted to write that it would "shake" everyone in different ways, of course, but somehow I hurried and missed .... And who is stronger than "truhanet" is difficult to predict. It depends on which side the "tsunami" will roll ... During the crisis of 2008-2013 got the strongest just the most prosperous countries with developed financial markets ...
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                        Quote: Stroporez
                        "Who is the first to load, the last to jump" -popular paratrooper wisdom lol

                        =======
                        good True, I heard this wisdom at the training camp, when we were forced to jump with a parachute (and why did we need it? They did not prepare the landing party!), Though in the "inverted version". When people were not in too much of a hurry to get loaded, one of the instructors barked: "Well, livelier guys! Whoever dives last will have to jump first!" laughing lol
                        drinks
                      2. 0
                        9 August 2021 13: 03
                        Quote: venik
                        one of the instructors and barked: "Well, livelier guys! Whoever dives last will have to jump first!"

                        The subconscious interprets this that the latter has options laughing laughing laughing
      3. +3
        7 August 2021 09: 34
        Quote: Stroporez
        Quote: venik
        So it seems they are not going to ..... Not those distances! This is for the Czech Republic - 240 km, and that's half of the country you can drive, but in Mother Russia it's just zilch! And to wander around the city in an electric UAZ is somehow not comme il faut! This is definitely not a "city" car!

        and you, apparently, an inveterate car enthusiast ?! lol
        Unfortunately, you do not understand that after 240 km, you will have lunch, during this time the car will be refueled and you will drive another 240 km, after which you will eat a sandwich again, recover from need, have a smoke and drive another 240 km. okay after sleep and so on ad infinitum fellow
        Only your trip will cost you at least 10 times cheaper in fuel !!!
        But such a freebie does not threaten us ...

        PySy. Electric cars in our country will not be produced in the foreseeable future, since this, in the opinion of the president and in accordance with his decree of May 13, 2019 No. 216 on the new Energy Security Doctrine of the Russian Federation, where in Chapter 2, paragraphs 8-9, it says , what "The challenges and threats to energy security, risks in the field of energy security of the Russian Federation are: ...
        f) an increase in the share of renewable energy sources in the global fuel and energy balance.
        9. The foreign policy challenge to energy security is the intensification of international efforts to implement climate policy and accelerate the transition to a "green economy".


        I have not read the doctrine, I confess.
        But the "green economy" is such a wrapper for a new wrapper to enslave all countries of the world.
        Not a communist, not Putin, forever, God forbid.
        But.
        The scheme according to which the "green economy" will be introduced does not give any country in the world (except for the "golden billion") chances for development.
        And the very idea of ​​"green energy" has a two-three-fold negative balance.
        Which, through various taxes, duties, fines, the developing countries will compensate ...
        1. 0
          7 August 2021 22: 23
          Quote: SovAr238A
          The scheme according to which the "green economy" will be introduced does not give any country in the world (except for the "golden billion") chances for development.
          And the very idea of ​​"green energy" has a two-three-fold negative balance.
          Which, through various taxes, duties, fines, the developing countries will compensate ...

          I will not argue, but I will note that internal combustion engines have outlived their usefulness and will soon "die out" like dinosaurs. Yes
    2. -4
      7 August 2021 01: 15
      Quote: venik
      "....As noted by the Russian newspaper Gazeta.ru, the Czech Republic released the UAZ electric car earlier than in Russia, because at the Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant itself, such cars are not yet made..... "
      ========
      So it seems they are not going to ..... Not those distances! This is for the Czech Republic - 240 km, this is considered half of the country you can drive, but in Mother Russia it's just zilch! And in the city on electric UAZ dangle - somehow not comme il faut! This is definitely not a "city" car! request

      It's not a car at all. laughing
  3. +5
    6 August 2021 16: 22
    The changes consist in the fact that instead of an internal combustion engine, an electric motor was installed alternating current
    Engine alternating current, for an electric car? What for? what
    1. +2
      6 August 2021 16: 37
      Quote: Tucan
      An AC motor for an electric car? What for?

      Variables are lighter in weight
    2. +2
      6 August 2021 16: 50
      An AC motor for an electric car? What for?

      It looks like you are not very familiar with the electric motors of modern electric vehicles.
      Today, permanent magnet synchronous motors, such as the one installed on the MWM SPARTAN EV, are gaining popularity.
    3. +3
      6 August 2021 16: 59
      The efficiency of AC motors is much higher than that of DC motors
      Usually synchronous with permanent magnets, less often asynchronous with a squirrel-cage rotor.
      And less weight and dimensions
    4. +4
      6 August 2021 17: 10
      Quote: Tucan
      An AC motor for an electric car? What for?

      To be powered by an AC battery. wassat tongue

      In fact, we are talking about a brushless motor with an electronic controller - this is already the standard. It allows you to easily control the speed and torque, smoothly brake and recover energy.
  4. 0
    6 August 2021 16: 44
    Who cares, recently Marat was a well-known youtuber reviewing, expressed his opinion about what is happening with the UAZ. There is a checkmate, listening with headphones, but very interesting, half an hour is worth watching!

    And in general, he has completely different reviews, not Davidichny vomit, but completely different, I advise motorists.
    Signed by myself, every issue is a thrill.
  5. +2
    6 August 2021 16: 49
    In terms of weight, the new electric SUV, dubbed the Spartan EV, is 120 kilograms heavier than the usual Hunter. Its cruising range is 240 km.

    Quote: Rambler / auto
    As a source of energy, there are two options for lithium-ion batteries: with a capacity of 55 and 90 kWh. The declared range of the electric SUV, depending on the type of battery, is 250 or 400 kilometers, respectively.
  6. +1
    6 August 2021 16: 58
    Interesting ... Is the range of 240 km on asphalt or swamp? laughing
    1. +7
      6 August 2021 17: 03
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Interesting ... Is the range of 240 km on asphalt or swamp?

      For our country, it is much more interesting to compare the range of an electric car in summer and winter.
      1. -1
        6 August 2021 17: 07
        Quote: Dym71
        Quote: Corona without virus
        Interesting ... Is the range of 240 km on asphalt or swamp?

        For our country, it is much more interesting to compare the range of an electric car in summer and winter.

        Well in winter (such a good winter wassat ) the power reserve and 0 km can be)))))))) it will simply not move if it stands at minus 30 on the street for three or four days feel
        1. 0
          6 August 2021 17: 12
          Quote: Corona without virus
          Well, in winter (such a good winter wassat) the power reserve and 0 km can be)))))))) simply will not move if it stands at minus 30 on the street for three or four days

          Now I don’t remember where, but I came across information about a decrease in the power reserve in the winter season by half.
          1. 0
            6 August 2021 17: 15
            Quote: Dym71
            Quote: Corona without virus
            Well, in winter (such a good winter wassat) the power reserve and 0 km can be)))))))) simply will not move if it stands at minus 30 on the street for three or four days

            Now I don’t remember where, but I came across information about reducing the power reserve by half.

            This is too optimistic !!! good
            Set up the simplest experiment - take out your smartphone on a balcony open in winter at least at -20 and leave it for an hour or two - the battery will be discharged to zero, although under normal conditions the charge will hold for more than 24+ hours
            1. +1
              6 August 2021 17: 21
              Quote: Corona without virus
              Set up the simplest experiment - take out your smartphone on a balcony open in winter at least at -20 and leave it for an hour or two - the acc will be discharged to zero

              The car is not a smartphone, it provides for a battery heating system up to autonomy, etc. etc.
              Here is what I found on the same Rambler / auto:
              According to statistics, for the first 5 km, the specific power consumption is spent 50% more than the nominal, and when moving 100 km - only 5% more.
              1. -1
                6 August 2021 17: 26
                Quote: Dym71
                Quote: Corona without virus
                Set up the simplest experiment - take out your smartphone on a balcony open in winter at least at -20 and leave it for an hour or two - the acc will be discharged to zero

                The car is not a smartphone, it provides for a battery heating system up to autonomy, etc. etc.

                Have you owned a car at least in the European part of Russia for at least one winter ?! tongue Without loading you with formulas, if you heat the battery at the expense of the battery - the acc will be discharged to zero per day maximum))))

                Electric cars are not for Russia, that's for sure !!! good Our climate is not the same recourse
                1. 0
                  6 August 2021 17: 32
                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  if the battery is heated at the expense of the battery, the battery will be discharged to zero per day maximum

                  This is a very simple option, you can heat up the battery compartment without using its own energy, for example, the network from which it charges at night.
                  Quote: Crown without virus
                  Have you owned a car at least in the European part of Russia for at least one winter ?!

                  No train.
                  1. -2
                    6 August 2021 17: 38
                    Quote: Dym71
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    if the battery is heated at the expense of the battery, the battery will be discharged to zero per day maximum

                    This is a very simple option, you can heat up the battery compartment without using its own energy, for example - the network from which it charges at night.
                    Quote: Crown without virus
                    Have you owned a car at least in the European part of Russia for at least one winter ?!

                    No train.

                    laughing laughing tongue tongue
                    Even in Moscow !!! just according to fire safety rules, no one will allow you on the street in the yard to charge your car at night wink
                    After all, the idea in electric cars is simple - you drive up to an electric station and you change your discharged accs to charged ones in 5 minutes))) and everything) like with empty gas cylinders, buying an electric car, acca is just a consumable
                  2. +1
                    6 August 2021 21: 22
                    With sufficient thermal insulation of the battery, the heating consumption will be negligible.
                2. +1
                  6 August 2021 17: 44
                  Norway is also not the most southern country
                  Norway became the first country to buy more electric cars in a year than all other cars combined (gasoline, diesel and hybrid). According to the Norwegian Road Federation (OFV), in 2020 the share of electric vehicles in the total car market was 54,3% versus 42,4% a year earlier.
                  1. -1
                    6 August 2021 17: 48
                    Quote: Avior
                    Norway is also not the most southern country
                    Norway became the first country to buy more electric cars in a year than all other cars combined (gasoline, diesel and hybrid). According to the Norwegian Road Federation (OFV), in 2020 the share of electric vehicles in the total car market was 54,3% versus 42,4% a year earlier.

                    1. Almost every family in Norway has its own heated garage
                    2. Electric stations in Norway (if I'm not mistaken) there are

                    If I had a heated garage and there would be electric stations in Russia at least every 100 km, I would have switched to an electric train myself !!! good But ... alas, alas ...
                    1. 0
                      6 August 2021 18: 02
                      Quote: Corona without virus
                      If I had a heated garage and there would be electric stations in Russia at least every 100 km, I would have switched to an electric train myself !!! But ... alas, alas ...

                      He has, envy wink
                      1. 0
                        7 August 2021 22: 41
                        Envy is a bad feeling ...
                    2. +1
                      6 August 2021 21: 54
                      No need for a heated garage, the energy consumption for maintaining the temperature of the battery in the presence of thermal insulation is negligible
                      And the network of gas stations will be formed quickly enough if the electric cars themselves appear. Usually they are first stimulated with benefits of some sort.
                      First, filling systems will be formed in large cities, then they will go along highways and into smaller cities - this will not happen in one day
                      1. +1
                        6 August 2021 23: 14
                        First, filling systems will be formed in large cities, then they will go along highways and into smaller cities - this will not happen in one day

                        Technically "literate" people think they get their electricity from outlets. If we compare the capacity of all cars and translate it into electricity, then the capacity of power plants around the world should be increased by 10 times. It's just that it is fashionable to promote green energy now, the trend is this. Technically illiterate people came to power on the wave of populism. Now ordinary batteries create problems with disposal, and what will happen with car batteries. In Brazil, half of cars are fueled with sawdust alcohol, a completely ecological biofuel.
                      2. +2
                        7 August 2021 06: 39
                        I am a technically competent person, I think that it makes no sense to compare capacities, you need to compare the volumes of consumed and produced electricity.
                        The problem of power is solved very simply - electric cars need to be charged at night, when there is a nightly consumption drop in the daily schedule. This is very convenient for the operation of power plants. Moreover, 10 times, as I understand it, this is for a catchphrase.
                        As for ethanol as a fuel, it is used not only in Brazil. In Brazil, it is made from sugar cane, in the United States, from corn, in Europe huge areas are allotted for cultivation for industrial crops, I take them away from food crops. And it is indeed somewhat more environmentally friendly than gasoline and diesel fuel, but alcohol exhaust is far from harmless. In its pure form, the engine runs on it up to +10, therefore, it is used either in a mixture with gasoline or with special additives.
                        And he is very far from the environmental friendliness of an electric car.
                      3. 0
                        7 August 2021 07: 19
                        And he is very far from the environmental friendliness of an electric car.

                        Is power generation sustainable? Moreover, up to 40% of losses during the transportation of energy from the power plant to the consumer. And about the lack of power, I will say, you are very technically illiterate. So the electrician can reason.
                      4. 0
                        7 August 2021 07: 47
                        As for the lack of power, it is obvious that you are incompetent in the question.
                        And transportation losses of 40 percent are sheer absurdity. Typical transportation losses in the range of 4-10 percent depending on the structure of the power system
                        you are very technically illiterate

                        Since the mid-80s, as a specialist, I have been repeatedly tested at various levels. I don't need your grades
                      5. 0
                        7 August 2021 07: 58
                        Typical transportation losses in the range of 4-10 percent depending on the structure of the power system


                        The average value for Russia is 10%. And 40% can reach with very long transportation.
                        And now the human factor, imagine how much easier it is to steal electricity than gasoline and you, as an electrician, hope so.
                      6. 0
                        7 August 2021 08: 12
                        In the world, the average value is 4-5 percent, 10 is the marginal one.
                        Stealing electricity is not as easy as it sounds if monitored. You will not throw wires on the power transmission line - 750, in urban networks this is a question of power supply organizations - these are their losses
                      7. 0
                        7 August 2021 08: 01
                        And transportation losses of 40 percent are sheer absurdity.

                        And that's just one chain
                      8. +1
                        7 August 2021 08: 22
                        And there is no 40 percent here, even in the loss rates.
                        Generally empty discussion.
                        There is a flow rate of 100 km
                        If the price of 15-20 kWh for the consumer is cheaper than 8-11 liters (for UAZ - 13-15 liters), then the electric car will be more profitable by this criterion, and the rest is the problem of power supply organizations.
                      9. 0
                        7 August 2021 08: 38
                        And there is no 40 percent here, even in the loss rates.

                        I understand your level of education
                      10. +2
                        7 August 2021 10: 51
                        Do you have alternative math?
                        Then it's clear....
                      11. +2
                        7 August 2021 09: 42
                        Quote: Avior
                        No need for a heated garage, the energy consumption for maintaining the temperature of the battery in the presence of thermal insulation is negligible
                        And the network of gas stations will be formed quickly enough if the electric cars themselves appear. Usually they are first stimulated with benefits of some sort.
                        First, filling systems will be formed in large cities, then they will go along highways and into smaller cities - this will not happen in one day


                        There is one but.
                        Namely, the supply of energy in the networks.
                        I once argued with one fan of electric trains.
                        So.
                        We live in Samara.
                        We have a so-called "Transgruz" ovsky quarter.
                        Out of 2 dozen 25 floors.
                        The simplest calculation based on the number of cars used showed the need for several thousand electric stores, and the nighttime energy consumption is more than the entire city consumes with all its inhabitants and businesses.
                        And that's just one block ...
                      12. +2
                        7 August 2021 11: 12
                        20 25 storey - atypical quarter
                        How did you think that the demand is greater than the city consumes?

                        A typical Auto of a city dweller in the mode of work - home - shop - summer cottage on weekends - mileage of 10 thousand km per year, on average 800 km per month, with an average consumption of 15-16 kWh per 100 km, this is 130 kWh per month.
                        Even if the average mileage of an Auto is 15 thousand, this is 200 kWh per month.
                        Just the consumption of an apartment, especially since Not every apartment has a car and we do not take into account industrial enterprises.
                        And most importantly, no one says that suddenly, right tomorrow, all cars will become electric vehicles.
                        When, according to the GOELRO plan, Ilyich's bulbs were introduced into houses, no one assumed that household consumption would grow many times over. Consumption grew - networks and electricity production grew.
                      13. 0
                        7 August 2021 11: 20
                        we do not take into account industrial enterprises.

                        And we don't include commercial vehicles ...
                        In Moscow, the operation of electric buses is much more expensive compared to traditional buses, but this is Moscow rich in do not spoil.
                        And I, for example, do not want to be constantly in the omnipresent powerful electromagnetic field.
                      14. +1
                        7 August 2021 11: 26
                        Trams / trolleybuses have been in use for a very long time.
                        And the consumption of ordinary buses does not take into account the loss of health of the townspeople - diesel exhaust is carcinogenic.
                        And where does the "powerful electromagnetic field" come from?
      2. -2
        7 August 2021 01: 21
        Quote: Dym71
        Quote: Corona without virus
        Interesting ... Is the range of 240 km on asphalt or swamp?

        For our country, it is much more interesting to compare the range of an electric car in summer and winter.

        That's it!
        Self-discharge at subzero temperatures is high.
        You can experiment with your cell phone.
        Take it out at minus thirty, and it will "die" in 15 minutes.
    2. -1
      6 August 2021 19: 08
      Downhill along the M-4 highway to the sea, from the Central Russian Upland to the level of the world ocean. People can be forced to switch to electric cars only by force.
      1. -1
        7 August 2021 01: 23
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        Downhill along the M-4 highway to the sea, from the Central Russian Upland to the level of the world ocean. People can be forced to switch to electric cars only by force.

        You can't even get vaccinated against Covid !!!!
        What other electric vehicles ... laughing
  7. +2
    6 August 2021 17: 27
    The mind cannot understand Russia! Duc, and don't try to understand figs! In Russia, other parts of the body are often used instead of brains! Recently, a "joyful" message for Russians was announced: they will sell electric cars to Russians for 2,5 million rubles. but with a discount of 600 thousand rubles! Come on cheap? But I read bloggers from China ... It turns out that in China you can buy a decent electric car for up to 1 million rubles! Various bloggers described electric vehicles worth both 600.000 and 400.000 rubles! A record is the message that a certain Russo eccentric bought an electric car of the "micro" category (!) In China for 60.000 rubles! Of course, in China you can find electric cars for 2,5 million rubles; but I touched the line "up to 1 million" rubles! (I like electric cars; because I have been familiar with electricity since childhood! But the prospect of lying under a car in gasoline and car oil never made me happy! That's why I don't have a car!)
    1. +1
      6 August 2021 18: 31
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      But the prospect of lying under a car in gasoline and car oil never pleased me! That's why I don't have a car!)
      But in vain. Gasoline, diesel, oil have antiseptic properties. If electrolyte gets into your hands, there will be consequences with consequences. wink
      1. +2
        6 August 2021 18: 43
        Quote: sabakina
        Gasoline, diesel, oil have antiseptic properties

        But don't put salt on the wound! Until his death, my brother worked at the railway as a locomotive repairman; and the "heart" of a diesel locomotive! Dozens of years of work in solarium, fuel oil, oils! He died of cancer at 62! The probable reason is called long-term "communication" with these "antiseptics": diesel fuel, oils!
  8. +3
    6 August 2021 17: 28
    With the current low energy density of batteries of the order of 200 W * h / kg, an electric SUV will not be practical, it is one thing to drive on asphalt and consume 12,2-22,7 kW * hour per 100 km, and it is quite another thing to land the entire battery by 10-20 km off-road.

    And what is fast charging, relatively speaking, if the battery is 50kW * h, in order to charge it during the lunch break, let it be an hour, then only without taking into account the efficiency it will be necessary to supply all the same 50kW, and the efficiency in such modes will very much drop to 0.7- 0.8 and degradation is faster.
  9. 0
    6 August 2021 17: 33
    So what? In the Czech Republic in winter, how is it! B-30 degrees, the battery will not run out? Ayya-yay!
    1. +1
      6 August 2021 17: 53
      Quote: Sasha from Uralmash
      So what? In the Czech Republic in winter, how is it! B-30 degrees, the battery will not run out? Ayya-yay!

      In all Czechs, it’s in the order of things to have a heated garage))) There definitely won’t run out of battery ... And in some Czechlands you don’t even buy a car until you buy a garage or rent it for a long time belay or rather, buy something you buy - but you will not register
      1. -1
        6 August 2021 18: 17
        There you can go around the whole Czech Republic by bike.)
      2. +2
        6 August 2021 21: 56
        In the Czech Republic, there are a lot of cars on the streets, in the sleeping areas at night all roadsides are clogged
  10. -1
    6 August 2021 17: 34
    I think that the Tatras on an electric ship will be more profitable in the Czech Republic :)
  11. 0
    6 August 2021 17: 40
    Malasy, what else can I say.
  12. +1
    6 August 2021 17: 56
    Czechs are great, they always keep their nose to the wind
  13. -3
    6 August 2021 18: 16
    I imagine this "miracle of technology" in the taiga, in winter, with fish and hunters. Where to look for an outlet?))
  14. 0
    6 August 2021 19: 51
    In Russia, the prospects for electric vehicles are dubious. Unless as a purely urban transport - to work from work or to deliver goods to shops. The whole problem is distance, and it's much deeper than most people think. It's not even that the same 240 km, by our standards, is nothing. Charging electric vehicles is much more important. There is no infrastructure for it, and there won't be. And the main factor here is the low population density compared to Europe. This, firstly, means that with the same density of charging stations, an order of magnitude less electric vehicles will be charged on them, which means an increase in the payback period is also an order of magnitude. Secondly, the lower population density increases the cost of the charging stations themselves, especially those providing fast charging. The problem here is that an ordinary charging station requires 30-60 kW of power, and a fast charging station requires 150-200 kW. Now imagine its location in a typical Russian village, which is supplied with power from two transformers of 100 kVA (70 kW of active power maximum) and one transformer of 250 kVA (no more than 180 kW). And this is, so to speak, a typical picture. There is only one way out - to build a new 10 / 0,4 kV substation and, most likely, to pull a new 10 kV power transmission line, and this even without the connection fee (which is shamelessly overstated, but, even if theoretically, can be reduced), purely on the technical side, it can do from 60-70 thousand $ and more. And when will such a charging station pay off? Even if, let's be optimists, we manage to charge 30-40 electric vehicles a day. In Europe, it is easier with this, since it is enough to install charging stations in cities and near them, where there is a power reserve - I threw a 0,4 kV cable, set up a meter, bought charging equipment - the technical part from several thousand bucks, to a maximum of 10-15 thousand ... But there is still a climate problem - in winter, the same Czech UAZ will have a range not 240, but at best 150-160 km. Add to this the aging of the battery - at least -20% in 4-5 years, the perennial problem of bad roads, and when calculating the placement of charging stations, you will need to focus on the maximum range of no more than 100-120 km. So, until the appearance of batteries that give the range of a real run (not a test one, but you left and drove) on the highway at least 500-600 km, you should not wait for a massive transition to electric vehicles in Russia.
    1. 0
      6 August 2021 21: 45
      The power of the charging station depends on the charging mode.
      If the fast 20 minute - yes, the power needs a lot
      If the hourly, then the power is 60 kW
      And if it is 10 hours, at night, then the power is about 6 kW, it is quite accessible to the household consumer in the village if necessary
      I put it on charge for the night - and everything is in order, and the safety of the battery is maximum
      But an electric car at the current stage in the village will show a minimum of advantages, at the moment the electric car is optimal - these are trips in the city, with short trips out of the city - for fishing, a picnic, and so on, and long trips from time to time - in such cases, a network is required quick charges or sentries on highways or in cities, usually at cafes.
      And the application on a smartphone with a card of charges, the availability of free and the ability to order for a specific time.
      The owners of the Cafe, in the city or on the highway, are interested in having such charging stations at the cafe - this attracts customers. This system has been working normally for a long time, everything has been invented for a long time.
  15. 0
    7 August 2021 10: 43
    This is our Skoda foreign car, and they have a UAZ laughing
  16. 0
    7 August 2021 11: 49
    Why do we need this? Somewhere in Siberia, at a temperature of minus forty-five ... fifty, all these European technologies will kill both drivers and passengers.
  17. 0
    7 August 2021 18: 37
    Is it too weak to make a battery-powered tram? Fuckers damn it ...
  18. 0
    7 August 2021 19: 11
    I just got myself into the mud up to my ears and then beep-beep - the battery blinked red.
  19. 0
    7 August 2021 22: 40
    Strange numbers in the photo, not Czech ones ...

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