Military Review

POUM - a party that has chosen the wrong goal and the wrong side

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Demonstration of POUM on a street in Barcelona


“Do not fall under the yoke of someone else with the unbelievers,
for what is the fellowship of righteousness with iniquity?
What does light have to do with darkness? "
2 Corinthians 6:14

The civil war in Spain. Until now, it is the most unknown European war. And to this day.

But why is it so? And what was there that caused this to happen?

Struggle among the left


But is it not because it so happened that during the civil war in Spain there was a struggle not only of fascism and anti-fascism, but also among the left too?

Because during the war in Spain, it was clearly indicated to all leftist forces that revolutionary movements, wherever they were, could only be controlled from Moscow. Any other initiative is a "deviation" with all the ensuing consequences.

And, of course, it was necessary to follow the dogma adopted by Moscow that social fascism (read traditional socialist parties) is more dangerous than real fascism, and one cannot block with it. Well, everyone who has an excellent opinion is an enemy, and, of course, is subject to destruction.

Then there will be Budapest in 1956, and Prague in 1968, and even the war between the two socialist countries China and Vietnam in 1979. But it all started with Spain ...

It was only in words that Marxism was a living and developing teaching. In fact, he just got bronze, being cast in the Kremlin dogmas.

POUM - a party that has chosen the wrong goal and the wrong side
POUM horsemen

The independent left posed a threat: what if they do better than the Kremlin's henchmen? Therefore, various measures began to be applied against them. So, weapon and only parts controlled by the Communist Party received ammunition. Because of this, many sectors of the front, such as the Aragon Front, where anarchists and POUM played the main role, could not conduct active hostilities due to a lack of weapons and ammunition. At the same time, control over the Spanish comrades was carried out both through military supplies and with the help of Soviet military specialists and special services.


People's militia in a single impulse!

And the question is, after all this, could the USSR be considered a socialist state if its leadership pursued a similar policy?

Here we come to the classical postulate of Stalinism "about the possibility of building socialism in a single country", which fundamentally contradicted the teachings of Karl Marx. That is, he believed that this was impossible. Lenin, and then Stalin, argued that it was precisely here that Marx was mistaken, or rather, he did not take into account the realities of the twentieth century, since he did not know them. But the Kremlin leader, who had never been outside Russia and knew about life abroad only from the reports of his agents, newspapers and books, did not take them fully into account either, which was clearly not enough in the extremely difficult new conditions.

In the meantime, it turned out that, according to the new doctrine, all socialist parties that had a huge influence on the working class in the world were cut off from the struggle for socialism and, accordingly, from the support of the USSR on the world stage, since they were declared "social fascists", and the whole stake was done only on the Communist Party and that part of the working class that they controlled. They received money through the Comintern, their leaders rested in the USSR at government dachas, but they did not succeed in mass, powerful pressure on capitalism. Roughly speaking, the communists had to carry all the chestnuts out of the fire alone.


One of the POUM formations is sent to the front

As for the POUM itself, it was formed on September 29, 1935 in Barcelona as a result of the merger of the Workers 'and Peasants' Bloc (BOC) and the Communist Left of Spain (ICE) party. At the same time, its name was chosen as an imitation of the sound of a rifle shot.


Ordinary fighters POUM

Anti-Stalinist roll


Both parties and before the merger took clear anti-Stalinist positions. The only difference was that the "Workers 'and Peasants' Bloc" supported Bukharin and the "Right Opposition" in the CPSU (b), and the "Communist Left of Spain" supported the "Left Opposition".

It is interesting that L. D. Trotsky himself wrote in 1940 that neither the Social Democrats, nor the Stalinists, nor the anarchists, including the POUM, could understand the situation in Spain and draw the correct conclusions. All these parties and forces "each pulled the blanket over themselves." As a result, they helped Franco more than they acted against him ("The Agony of Capitalism and the Tasks of the Fourth International").


At that time, they even declared their party affiliation in Spain ...

The leaders of the new party were Andre Nin, Joaquin Maurin, Julian Gorkin and Vilebaldo Solano, as well as some others. The POUM was distinguished by strong anti-Stalinist sentiments, while it opposed the bureaucratization of the Soviet party and state apparatus and the political trials that began at that time over the "enemies of the people." The POUM had many supporters in Catalonia and Valencia. More than even the CPI and the United Socialist Party of Catalonia.


One of the POUM committees

Outside Spain, she also had supporters.

In particular, Willy Brandt, later chairman of the SPD, went to the POUM, and from Great Britain many members of the ILP (Independent Labor Party), including the writer George Orwell, who later described his stay in the ranks of the POUM militia in the book "In Memory of Catalonia", where he is in great detail also considered the political conflicts and disagreements that existed there.


A very interesting book about events in Spain

The POUM began its struggle against the revision of Marx in the USSR with the first Moscow show trial, held in August 1936 (where Zinoviev and Kamenev were convicted). She regarded the destruction of the "old Bolshevik guard" by Stalin as a betrayal of socialism and demanded that Trotsky be given asylum in Catalonia.

It is interesting that the POOMists associated the only chance of the Spanish revolution for victory with the international solidarity of the workers' movement. This was their tragedy. Because all this struggle took place against the backdrop of a civil war. The fact that they opposed the "general line of Stalin" could not bring any particular harm to either Stalin himself or the USSR. Words, they are words. But the demonstration that they are "against" here in Spain, was only in the hands of Franco, because this position caused a split in the ranks of the Republicans themselves. There was a war, weapons were needed, but they came from the USSR, and it made no sense to anger Stalin under these conditions. We could have postponed their scores with him until victory, but for now just keep quiet, but ... The Pomovites could not understand this.


But this book is directly on stories POUM

As a result, representatives of the POUM were withdrawn from the Catalan government and lost a lot on this. A press campaign began to discredit the POUM, the tone of which was set by the leadership of the Comintern.

Well, it all ended with the fact that at the end of December 1936 the POUM was declared a "Trotskyist-fascist organization." Prior to that, in the "Review of Politics, Economics and Labor Movement" (organ of the Comintern in Spain) there was not a single article about the Spanish "Trotskyists", that is, the Pomovites. But now from issue to issue "Review ..." began to write about their imaginary "subversive activities in favor of Franco."

Accordingly, the press of the parties - members of the Comintern - immediately supported the "main source of all blessings", and was absolutely right in this, no matter how cynical it may sound. Because in politics, one should not please dead theoreticians, but living leaders who send money, Tanks, cannons, airplanes and rifles, which the same Pomovites constantly lacked.


Working people! POUM is waiting for you! POUM propaganda poster, 1936

Nevertheless, the POUM militias actively participated in the battles of the civil war, fighting for the republic, but due to political disagreements with the Stalinist communists, their actions did not have the proper effectiveness.

True, at first they were supported by the Anarchist National Confederation of Labor, which in Spain enjoyed great influence among the workers. However, even the most radical part of the leadership of the National Confederation of Labor showed wise caution in relations with the central government: it did not "pull the sleeping tiger by the mustache" and, depriving the POUM of support, left it in complete isolation. Andre Nina was kidnapped and killed by agents of the NKVD, headed by A. Orlov, a resident of the foreign department of the NKVD.


"Win or die!" POUM poster, 1936

And then, already in 1937-1938, repressions began against the POUM, and its members were declared fascist agents. The same George Orwell was then forced to spend the night in the cemetery so as not to be arrested and not go to prison, although he was wounded fighting with the Francoists, and by no means on their side.


And what would the Republicans do without these tanks?

After the defeat of the republic, attempts were made to create this party in exile. And in 1975, after Franco's death - even in Spain itself, but none of this happened.


And without these planes?

True, the POUM was part of the International Bureau of Revolutionary Socialist Unity, known as the London Bureau (which included political organizations that simultaneously rejected both the bourgeois reformism of the Socialist Workers' International and the pro-Soviet orientation of the Comintern), and one of its leaders was Julian Gorkin in 1939-1940 served as a secretary in it.


But this about POUM was written by the famous Sudoplatov, taking advantage of the fact that the books of the same Orwell and other "Spaniards" were not published in the USSR. Well, yes, God will judge him ...

As for the POUM program, it contained a demand for a "democratic socialist" revolution, that is, in fact, it had a utopian character.

The fact is that the Spanish bourgeoisie could not solve the problem of the bourgeois revolution. The proletariat, on the other hand, realized its democratic tasks and immediately began its own, already socialist. The POUM initiated a united front against fascism since 1934, actively criticized the anarchists for their sectarianism, the socialists for opportunism, but at the same time criticized the VKP (b). She demanded the creation of a new International, defended Trotsky from Stalinist slander, but she also polemized with him so sharply that this led to the end of their relationship.

The fact that in the communist press this party was called "Trotskyist" is completely wrong, it was not even a member of the Fourth International. And it was the POUM that Trotsky criticized very strongly and even wrote that the POUMists by their actions pour water on Franco's mill.


They called, they wanted the best, they were wrong ... They were!

They did not understand that the prestige of the Spanish Communist Party was raised by the Soviet Union, which since the fall of 1936 was the only country (except poor Mexico) that supplied the republic with weapons. They did not understand that idealism has no place in the political struggle, and that many of the provisions of Marxist theory in practice become their opposite.

This is evidenced, for example, by André Nin's statement about the dictatorship of the proletariat, taken from his speech published in the newspaper La Batalla, Nr. 32, 8. 9. 1936:

“In our understanding, the dictatorship of the proletariat is the dictatorship of the entire working class ... but no organization, whether trade union or political, has the right to exercise its dictatorship over other organizations in the interests of the revolution ... The dictatorship of the proletariat is a workers' democracy, which is carried out by all workers without no exceptions ... Our party must resolutely ... fight against every attempt to transform the dictatorship of the proletariat into the dictatorship of one party or one person. "

Pure idealism, isn't it?

But on this idealistic vision of Marxist theory and practice, as we see, a whole party was created, it was able to captivate many honest and decent people, and as a result turned their fates into tragedies.
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  1. knn54
    knn54 16 August 2021 18: 28
    +13
    I can, and there are already such people, a little in the pioneer age (more than half a century ago), I talked with the participants in those events.
    Who were then younger than "today's" me.
    The answer was short - thanks to "Comrade" Trotsky.
    As correctly stated in the article, they fought with the WHOLE world.
    As for A. Orlov (or rather Leib Lazarevich Feldbin), there is no trust in the banal stealing traitor.
    And the last, the cover with the inscription against Franco, against Stalin reminded of another (I do not remember the name of the author) book, where Vlasov is already against Hitler and Stalin.
    I just want to ask, for whom?
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 16 August 2021 19: 08
      +10
      Quote: knn54
      I just want to ask, for whom?

      A terribly standard display of political myopia.
      You cannot be "against" in politics. In politics, you can only be "for". Unfortunately, many do not understand this even now and are becoming objects of manipulation.
      In other words, politics is a collective process in which a huge number of actors take part and the winner is the one who can win over the majority. The one who fights "against all" will never be able to achieve his goals, since he will be alone. At the same time, there will always be forces that will manage to use this "against everyone" for their own purposes.
      So raising the flag with the word "against" you need to think about whose mill you will unselfishly pour water this time. smile
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 16 August 2021 20: 08
        -1
        In other words, politics is a collective process
        Yes. Modern politicians have fully realized this postulate. And somehow none of them strive to climb the scaffold for the sake of the ideals indicated in the electoral program ...
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master 16 August 2021 20: 47
          +1
          I didn't quite understand the idea in the context of my comment.
          I said that in politics, due to the huge number of participants in the process, any subject, at least partially, always acts in the interests of others, even if he does not want to and does not realize it. The one who proclaims the slogan "against everyone" or simply against something specific - corruption, oligarchs, specific politicians, globalization, etc. - just does the same thing, but absolutely disinterestedly and without a chance to achieve their own goals. If he has any at all.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 16 August 2021 20: 57
            +5
            This means that sometimes it is worth stopping and thinking: not "for whom I am", but "for what am I".
            1. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master 16 August 2021 23: 03
              +6
              Ah, now I understand. smile
              Only, having realized what you are for, you need to immediately start looking for those who are for the same. And unite. Otherwise, you are against everyone. smile
      2. astra wild2
        astra wild2 16 August 2021 21: 18
        +2
        "to fight against all" - to poke a hot iron into the crotch
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 17 August 2021 03: 54
          +1
          It is not for Solzhenitsyn to write the truth about the USSR, and it is not for Shpakovsky - about socialism and the communist parties in the world. What "truth" can the haters and enemies of the Soviet system write?
          1. kalibr
            17 August 2021 07: 40
            -2
            Quote: Stas157
            What "truth" can the haters and enemies of the Soviet system write?

            Only they can. Because they see. And those who all approve of their eyes have long been covered with cow dung! Once they are free, then it's good. Peasant psychology. From the plow!
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 17 August 2021 08: 02
              +3
              Quote: kalibr
              Only they can.

              So you are not interested in an objective point of view, but solely in the search for the negative. And the worse it is for the USSR, the better it is for you. And you won't get any good from you. As if he never existed.

              This is your "truth".
              1. kalibr
                17 August 2021 08: 35
                0
                Looking for negativity is even more valuable than stupid endorsements. Or do you want to constantly step on the same rake? The doctor often hurts, but he heals, right?
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 17 August 2021 08: 41
                  +3
                  Quote: kalibr
                  Finding negatives is even more valuable than silly endorsements.

                  The USSR is long gone and you are like Don Quixote, who is at war with windmills, with your belligerence. At what exactly he is fighting, and does not want to calmly figure out and get to the bottom of the truth, weighing on the scales not only the bad, but also the good. And it was not enough.
                  1. Aviator_
                    Aviator_ 17 August 2021 19: 21
                    +3
                    At what exactly he is fighting, and does not want to calmly figure out and get to the bottom of the truth, weighing on the scales not only the bad, but also the good.

                    Well, when did Shpakovsky calmly understand the causes and consequences? The former party propagandist climbed to the top, and this top collapsed. This is what he cannot forgive the USSR in any way. And he did "approvals" as a member of the CPSU.
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 18 August 2021 03: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      And he did "approvals" as a member of the CPSU.

                      Yes, I'm just sure that it was!
    2. sgapich
      sgapich 16 August 2021 22: 07
      +5
      Quote: knn54
      And the last, the cover with the inscription against Franco, against Stalin reminded of another (I do not remember the name of the author) book, where Vlasov is already against Hitler and Stalin.
      I just want to ask, for whom?

      Most likely you mean the book "Against Stalin and Hitler" by Shtrik-Shtrikfeldt, it is on "Militer" (http://militera.lib.ru/). It is a memoir of this very Shtrik-Shtrikfeldt, Vlasov's closest friend and comrade-in-arms. hi
    3. RoTTor
      RoTTor 1 October 2021 18: 09
      0
      Why falsely slander Orlov?
  2. polpot
    polpot 16 August 2021 18: 33
    +7
    Thank you, I wonder, the topic of the Spanish Civil War deserves further consideration, there were wonderful types, the anarchist Durutti for example.
  3. Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 16 August 2021 18: 36
    +19
    But the Kremlin leader also did not take them fully into account, never visited outside Russia

    As I understand it, we are talking about Stalin?
    Well, okay, Tampere (Tammerfors), where the RSDLP conference was held, is located in Finland, which at that time was almost Russia, but the IV congress was definitely in Stockholm, and the V in London and he participated in both.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 16 August 2021 18: 47
      +8
      Tampere
      Slightly correct: Tampere.
      And so, that's right.
      My respect, Ivan! hi
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      2. ee2100
        ee2100 16 August 2021 19: 06
        +2
        Hi!
        Tampere is not inclined, but this is RI.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 16 August 2021 19: 13
          +4
          Hello Alexander! A lot of things are not inclined in our Northwest ...
          However, “Where are you going?
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 16 August 2021 19: 41
            0
            We have been watering for 1,5 hours. Zatar
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 16 August 2021 19: 49
              -1
              We were polished yesterday. "In rain we trust"
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 16 August 2021 20: 10
                0
                It's all ours! For all time laughing
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 16 August 2021 20: 21
                  -1
                  Well, it just happened to love this area ... I love it !!!
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 16 August 2021 20: 39
                -1
                "Jedem das Seine" (c) request
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 16 August 2021 20: 46
                  +1
                  What is this for, Uncle Kostya?
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 16 August 2021 20: 48
                    +1
                    So simple, with nothing to do. Yes, and inspired by the music ... drinks
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 16 August 2021 21: 10
                      +2
                      No one will be able to comprehend the dialogue between a Petersburg resident of Murmansk and a Petersburg resident of Tallinn about the weather !!!
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 August 2021 21: 17
                        +3
                        What is permissible for Jupiter is not permissible for the Cat. request
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 16 August 2021 21: 34
                        +1
                        Sorry! Local corporatism worked. Unlike you, Muscovites, former, present, and future, we love our city in dynamics, and Moscow, in its citizens, is frozen in the past.
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 August 2021 21: 41
                        -1
                        Yeah, I could say a lot about some of the Petrograd people who are now sawing Moscow, but I'd rather not.
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 16 August 2021 21: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      So simple, with nothing to do. Yes, and inspired by the music ...

                      Fizkult hello, Konstantin! hi I wonder what kind of music evokes dollars? laughing
              3. hohol95
                hohol95 16 August 2021 21: 12
                +2
                And we have another hot day ...
              4. bubalik
                bubalik 16 August 2021 21: 29
                +2

                3x3zsave

                Rain and rain. At times rain showers and light rain inside a large rain of rain. (C) hi laughing
                ,,, and we have it like this. belay himself in shock.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 16 August 2021 21: 42
                  +1
                  Samara! Sweet sadness about childhood ...
    2. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 16 August 2021 18: 55
      +13
      Tehran and Potsdam have forgotten. smile
      1. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 16 August 2021 19: 00
        +10
        Well, this is after coming to power.
        It's just that the composition of conferences and congresses is easily checked, and the IVS seems to have visited Vienna and Krakow, but quickly did not find it in what year :)))
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      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 16 August 2021 19: 05
        -3
        Tegran - yes, Potsdam - doubtful. However, like Tampere.
        1. astra wild2
          astra wild2 16 August 2021 22: 08
          +2
          I won't say anything about Tampere, I don't know, but Stalin was in Potsdam for sure.
          He met there c; Truman and Churchill.
          If in doubt, we ask our encyclopedist: Viktor Nikolaevich
      3. kalibr
        16 August 2021 19: 43
        -1
        Quote: Trilobite Master
        Tehran and Potsdam have forgotten.

        Actually, come to a conference and live in a guarded mansion. This is not at all like living abroad ...
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 16 August 2021 20: 25
          0
          Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich. About the mess among the social. camps during the Spanish Civil War, I heard, but I read about these utopians for the first time)))
          And how many of them died in the Pyrenees ... Young people who believe in the world's good ...
        2. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master 16 August 2021 23: 38
          +5
          Well, there are no other options for the head of state.
          In general, the boss is bad if he has to see everything with his own eyes or do it with his own hands. You need to be able to select and arrange people in such a way as to timely receive reliable information in the required and sufficient volume on any issue.
          Of course, these are ideally unattainable by definition. In life, information will always be incomplete, distorted, contradictory and will come with a delay, and the manager must choose on what to base his decisions here and now ... , so that he should not - he has no right. His responsibility is to make a request, get a response from the staff, analyze and make a decision.
          The head of Stalin's level generally sees the world not from the window of an office car or an office, he sees it exclusively in numbers and letters on papers or, as now, on monitor screens.
          So even if Stalin had never really left the borders of Russia - the USSR, I would not dare to reproach him with this. But if he personally traveled and made decisions based on what he saw personally, then these decisions, with a high degree of probability, would be subjective, and therefore incorrect, and this is already a valid reason for reproach.
    3. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 16 August 2021 19: 05
      +10
      I was also in Krakow and Vienna. I even wrote articles there. Well, already in WWII - Tehran and Potsdam.
    4. kalibr
      16 August 2021 19: 11
      +6
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      but the IV Congress was definitely in Stockholm, and the V in London, and he took part in both.

      It somehow fell out of the spotlight ... Nice clarification, thanks!
    5. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 August 2021 21: 37
      +3
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      As I understand it, we are talking about Stalin?
      Well, okay, Tampere (Tammerfors), where the RSDLP conference was held, is located in Finland, which at that time was almost Russia, but the IV congress was definitely in Stockholm, and the V in London and he participated in both.

      Colleague, at tovarisch Shpakovsky you can find a lot of blunders and he uses them deliberately.
      1. kalibr
        17 August 2021 07: 37
        -4
        Quote: Stroporez
        he uses them deliberately.

        Do people need to comment on something and demonstrate their own erudition?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 17 August 2021 08: 28
          0
          Quote: kalibr
          People need to comment on something and demonstrate their own erudition.

          In what you have to give it credit, Duc is in the feedback, the ability to provoke and disguise the provocation, and of course in the fact that you can write anything for money and you don’t hide it. good
          1. kalibr
            17 August 2021 08: 37
            -3
            Quote: Stroporez
            In what you have to give it credit, Duc is in the feedback, the ability to provoke and disguise the provocation, and of course in the fact that you can write anything for money and you don’t hide it.

            Thank you! But all this is called "skill" in short.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 17 August 2021 09: 31
              0
              Quote: kalibr
              But all this is called "skill" in short.

              Well, yes, it inspired me ...
              1. kalibr
                17 August 2021 13: 25
                +3
                It's good that you understand humor!
    6. sidoroff
      sidoroff 17 August 2021 20: 48
      -1
      in Vienna, too. where he met with Lev Davidovich.
  4. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 16 August 2021 18: 57
    0

    Colleagues, it seems to me alone that this guy on the left, 30 seconds ago, jumped out of the table of a street cafe, convulsively grabbing a pack of cigarettes? What fascinated him?
    1. ee2100
      ee2100 16 August 2021 19: 07
      0
      "Everyone ran and I ran!"
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 16 August 2021 19: 21
        +1
        Something like that. Photographs of Republicans, during the Civil War, are 90% staged. I have not seen photographs of the Francoists. I think people were doing business. They had no time to show off in front of the cameras.
    2. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 16 August 2021 19: 14
      +2
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      guy on the left

      This is how spies and traitors were depicted on Soviet posters ...
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      What fascinated him?

      There are options: one of three figures in the first row in the center with rifles and pouches. smile
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 16 August 2021 19: 24
        0
        I also thought he saw his girlfriend.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 16 August 2021 20: 10
          +1
          ... he saw his girlfriend.

          Or someone else's. wink
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 16 August 2021 20: 35
            0
            Hi Kostya!
            You are always in yourself! Super!
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 16 August 2021 20: 44
              +3
              Hi Sasha! smile
              I remember a long time ago I read an American book "It's hard to be a sergeant", so there, in the crew of the bomber, there were exactly the same problems as described in this article, although there was only one or two people there.
              The human hostel cannot be altered, even if it is a war, even a policy, or even crack it in half. Easier to drink and laugh. smile drinks
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 16 August 2021 20: 54
                -1
                Kostya! If this is thoughtful and vital, with which I agree! This is a toast!
                As we say "prozit" or "boom"
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 16 August 2021 21: 03
                  -1
                  Oh, some rat has already instructed me cons. laughing

                  "Well, our health!" drinks
                  1. ee2100
                    ee2100 16 August 2021 21: 11
                    0
                    To our common health!
                  2. ee2100
                    ee2100 16 August 2021 21: 19
                    +1
                    I sent it to Anton and I know that they will pass me too, but for me .... you yourself know.

                    White (light) monk and black nun craft beer,
                    Type in Wikipedia Karksi, where they do not make this beer.
                    History goes off scale
                    Both light and dark are a big plus.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 16 August 2021 21: 26
                      0
                      Why is a monk light, and a dark nun, where is equality? smile drinks
                      1. ee2100
                        ee2100 16 August 2021 21: 33
                        +1
                        Didn't know you were so tolerant! It's all in the form of clothing!
                        How we got sick! Even the Russians!
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 August 2021 21: 44
                        0
                        ... you are so tolerant


                        Why abizhaesh daragoy !? Why such a bad word gavarish? Abidna, yes, sill ... crying
                      3. ee2100
                        ee2100 16 August 2021 21: 50
                        0
                        Suck! Ouch! Just kidding - a fiction of speech!
                        Good beer 1.29 € per bottle.
                        There is a drawing for you, I look forward to the continuation of his series from Vaschenko.
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 August 2021 22: 26
                        0
                        And what kind of drawing, or just in conjunction with the article?
                      5. ee2100
                        ee2100 16 August 2021 22: 29
                        0
                        Not coupled with comments
                      6. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 August 2021 22: 51
                        0
                        Got it, boom wait. smile
      2. astra wild2
        astra wild2 16 August 2021 21: 58
        +2
        Mikhail, you said it as a joke, or it could be true: the guy saw his sympathy and joined
  5. ee2100
    ee2100 16 August 2021 19: 01
    +3
    The left forces of Spain were too motley. Idealistic ideas about a bright socialist future were in the minds of all theorists of the communist movement, hence the internal struggle for power in the country.
    This is reminiscent of the times of the late USSR, popular fronts of all places, etc. Beautiful conversations and nothing more. But the people were led away!
    What did the Comintern and the bloody ram want? Victory in the civil war and only then the solution of internal political conflicts.
    “First, win the war, then make the revolution ... This formula is fundamentally false: in the struggle that is now developing in Spain, war and revolution are not only two inseparable concepts, but also synonyms ... Since the struggle on the military front is nothing more than the continuation of the struggle in the rear ... War is a form of politics ... The formula actually conceals the intention to frustrate the revolution. "
    Andreu Nin: La revolución española 1930-1937, Barcelona 1978, S. 303.
    You can't sit on three chairs. And you can't grab everything with one hand. The history of the Spanish Civil War is a good example of this.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 16 August 2021 19: 43
      0
      Separatism is the eternal misfortune of the Iberian Peninsula.
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 16 August 2021 20: 13
        +2
        I disagree. Everything is much deeper. Separatism is now, but then it is a thirst for a better life.
        Everyone wanted her, but didn't know what she looked like.
        1. kalibr
          17 August 2021 13: 27
          +3
          Quote: ee2100
          Everyone wanted her, but didn't know what she looked like.

          "For whom the Bell Tolls"
  6. Tests
    Tests 16 August 2021 19: 29
    +5
    knn54 (Nikolay), dear, about Orlov I will support you by 202%.
    Sudoplatov's books as a source of truth? No no and one more time no! Pavel Anatolyevich knew and knew too much. And the country, which he served for more than a dozen years, assigned him to the Vladimir prison ... And the purges of personnel in our special services, and in law enforcement agencies and their archives, are regular, since the 30s of the last century, starting to the present day ... We will not go far for examples: the terrorist attacks on Dubrovka and in Beslan. There are dozens of witnesses and participants, but there are a million questions left. And the point of view of the sniper who was from the south of the building will be completely opposite to the point of view of the sniper who was from the north of the building, the point of view of the group commander who entered the building from the south will be completely different from that of the group commander who entered the building from the north , the point of view of the signalman at the headquarters from the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be completely different from the point of view of the signalman at the headquarters of the FSB, and the signalman at the headquarters from the Ministry of Defense will have a third point of view, and the signalman from the Ministry of Emergency Situations - the fourth ... When there was a terrorist attack on Dubrovka in the Russian Federation there was an FSNP ... And when there was a terrorist attack in Beslan, there was an FSKN in the Russian Federation. There is no tax police or drug control today, their archives are ashes, although some of the people who served in them are still alive ... But both of these law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation worked in full according to the law on the operational intelligence ... Maybe and Schulze-Boysen was right about the organizers of the riot in Barcelona, ​​speaking of them "using the support of persons associated with the Abwehr." Or maybe he was "whistling", because he served in the German Air Force. Which of the Abwehr he knew or did not know anyone from the Abwehr, what and how he spoke, and whether he spoke at all, we seem to never know.
  7. ivan2022
    ivan2022 16 August 2021 19: 54
    +8
    The author's stake is on the public's complete lack of knowledge of these very "dogmas" of Marxism. But socialism, by definition, is a higher stage of democracy. Strange as it may seem for a man in the street, brought up in a society of serfs. In the USSR, powers are prevalent. there were more councils than the State Duma of the Russian Federation, and in this sense there was socialism. The fact that these powers were not used is a consequence of the mentality of slaves in 15 generations, but not the problem of Marxism. I. Krylov's monkey also did not know how to use glasses.
    1. kalibr
      16 August 2021 20: 01
      -5
      And what for then dogmas, if they are not used. And then ... the 91st put everything in its place. Matthew 7:27 "... and the rain fell, and the rivers overflowed, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it fell, and there was a great fall," because it was built on sand!
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 16 August 2021 20: 26
        +2
        Ouch! Have you really thought about the soul?
      2. ivan2022
        ivan2022 17 August 2021 06: 43
        +2
        Right! Now the foundation is strong. Only Russians cannot live in this house. Replaced by others. And the Russians are happy, because the main thing for them is that it be strong! The fact that under the Soviets the Laws were beneficial to the people, they don't give a fuck. A strange people in the highest degree ....... Not the winds of the USSR destroyed, but stupidity.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 17 August 2021 19: 37
          0
          It was not the winds of the USSR that destroyed, but stupidity.

          The stupidity of the party in power with its party propagandists.
  8. Fat
    Fat 16 August 2021 20: 01
    0
    Great article. I always knew that the left in Spain was not united. Article V.O. reveals some of the reasons for the defeat of the Republicans. Thank you!
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 16 August 2021 21: 12
      +5
      Great article.

      And after reading for some reason I have such associations.
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 16 August 2021 21: 21
        0
        Good evening!
        Subtle hint, explain the photo from Google maps
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 16 August 2021 21: 36
          +1
          Yes, how thin he is, there is nowhere thicker.
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 16 August 2021 22: 07
            +1
            Good evening! The house is then clear. But, excuse me, this is not a hint of an article.
            It is difficult to compare the workers and their tribunes with Professor Preobrozhensky. These are two different categories or planes, the latter is closer to me
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 16 August 2021 22: 12
              +1
              This is a hint for an article. You just did not understand him.
              - God! The Kalabukhov house is gone! - Philip Philipovich exclaimed in despair and threw up his hands.
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 16 August 2021 22: 18
                -1
                With all due respect to you, I still do not understand. Maybe a beer?
                If not difficult.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 16 August 2021 22: 42
                  -4
                  No, not beer. VO website.
              2. ee2100
                ee2100 16 August 2021 22: 35
                -1
                I can express my deep conviction that proletarians and intellectuals cannot be equated.
                The goals and objectives are different.
        2. Liam
          Liam 16 August 2021 21: 40
          +1
          Kalabukhov house
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 16 August 2021 21: 45
        +1
        Not Peter straightforward, by chance, huh?

        Hello Victor! hi
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 16 August 2021 22: 12
          0
          Good evening. This is Moscow.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 16 August 2021 22: 26
            +1
            Shame on my unlucky head, but I, at one time, knew the city well. Where is it, what is this street? Not beyond GUM, by chance, I don't remember the name of the lane.
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 16 August 2021 22: 38
              +2
              Former apartment building 24/1 on the corner of Prechistenka and Obukhov Lane, Bulgakov settled Professor Preobrazhensky there.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 16 August 2021 22: 50
                +2
                I don't remember at all. In my time, everything somehow looked different. I have been convinced for a long time that today's Moscow is not at all the city in which I navigated with my eyes closed.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 16 August 2021 23: 07
                  +1
                  In my time, everything somehow looked different.

                  Definitely. And the sky was higher, the water was wetter, the girls were more beautiful ...
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    1. Fat
      Fat 16 August 2021 20: 40
      0
      hi Seryunya, Mr. Sergei (do not think too much as is typical for you) - a citizen.
      You go beyond the civilized. It will be poured to you many times.
      I understand that you are on the "drum". I sincerely congratulate you on registering for V.O. meaning that this may not have been the first attempt at shitting in public. I don’t remember anything bad, so I write it down. Nice to meet you, rodent ...
      1. Fat
        Fat 16 August 2021 21: 33
        +4
        Colleagues, I am glad for your assessment. But Seryunya in the first post managed to start, insulting my family, distorting my name. Let it exist for a long time. Desirable with a lot of unpleasant.
    2. Fat
      Fat 16 August 2021 21: 40
      0
      You and insanity do not nadot, Aggressive you are ours. Interesting. Who pays for you, or are you completely sincere?
      I do not believe! Bad game ... Seryunya.
  10. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 16 August 2021 20: 47
    +3
    Trotsky and his endless first, second and after him the third international are the essence of globalist forces, wrapped in one or another wrapper. The IVS saw through them in time and in a timely manner walked over them with a heavy asphalt paver. But about that, in the article not a word, rather confusion of people, in the understanding of the true levers that began to work a hundred years ago. The International is alive. Found a new face (s). One of its manifestations is the current hysteria around a certain virus that miraculously mutates from month to month. Another is the obscurantism of the greens. The manifestations of the Bilderberg Club can be enumerated for a long time.
    1. ee2100
      ee2100 16 August 2021 21: 09
      0
      Understand me correctly, I am not an adherent of Shpakovsky, but no one knows how to do it right.
      Both systems will beat to the last. And it is not a fact that the one who wins will be right, ideal, etc. The West needs a lot of films on this topic.
      There will always be people who are not satisfied. Robbed and offended.
      My opinion is a worldwide declaration of certain rights.
      Maybe I'm an idialist too. But contradictions always lead to war.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 16 August 2021 21: 37
        +2
        Quote: ee2100
        My opinion is a worldwide declaration of certain rights.

        To be honest, I did not understand anything of what you wanted to say. But not the point.

        It's not about ideals. Ideals are the threads that pull us. No more than that (although, of course, where without ideals, he himself is). What is actually happening at the top, we do not even know half a percent. To put it simply, it is an ineradicable lust for power.

        Any government is a very limited circle of uncontrolled people who control a very large number, inclined to simplify reality and entangled by the imposed rules of the people. And here you are, or there, or here. Either you really have something and those around you adjust to you, or you adjust yourself. The third is not given.
        I think so...
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 16 August 2021 21: 32
      +2
      Hi Alexey! hi
      So a bunch of hamsters came running to this lemming, they crawl around the site like rats and shit on every corner. And they shit because they are not equipped to do anything else. laughing
    3. astra wild2
      astra wild2 16 August 2021 21: 46
      +7
      Colleague Al_lexx, Trotsky had nothing to do with the Third International, the Third International was created by Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. Trotsky created the fourth, and this is not the same
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 16 August 2021 22: 49
        +2
        The question is not who created which international. And yes, Trotsky was just working with the third. The fourth is now functioning and other people rule there.
        And maybe the fifth. Not the point.
        This is not the main thing. The main thing is that under all these endless revolutions for all good, against all bad, they mask the banal fooling of mankind. Those. everything is much worse than you might imagine.
    4. Han Tengri
      Han Tengri 16 August 2021 22: 53
      +4
      Quote: Al_lexx

      Trotsky and his endless first, second and third internationals after him are the essence of globalist forces, wrapped in one or another wrapper.

      What a talented person, it turns out, this Leiba was! I understand everything, but to create the 1st International - 15 years before his birth, and the 2nd - at 10 years old ... You have to be well, oh-oh-very extraordinary person! laughing
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 16 August 2021 23: 39
        +1
        Quote: HanTengri
        What a talented person, it turns out, this Leiba was!

        You cling to words. I'm not very interested in what is written on the wiki. I'm talking about something completely different.
        However, what am I and with whom am I trying (and am I trying, or is a booger clung to me once again), a person with a speaking nickname)))? You also "apologize", and not about the essence of what is happening.
        Continue, dear Khan, in the same spirit, you will be credited. ;)
        1. Han Tengri
          Han Tengri 17 August 2021 19: 41
          0
          Quote: Al_lexx
          You cling to words.

          Not to words, but to historical facts. On the basis of which you build "something else that you talk about."
          Quote: Al_lexx
          I'm not very interested in what is written on the wiki.

          But in vain. If you, before blurting out another nonsense, looked at least at Aunt Vika, then, almost guaranteed, you would have deprived me of the opportunity to neigh over your pearls.
          Quote: Al_lexx
          However, what am I and with whom am I trying (and am I trying, or is a booger clung to me once again), a person with a speaking nickname)))?

          Should you go to the mirror and correct the halo. Perhaps he squeezes you a little. From this, at times, attacks of unmotivated rudeness occur, aggravated by the complex of an unrecognized genius.
      2. Fat
        Fat 17 August 2021 09: 48
        0
        hi Khan. So Lyova was a person ... Extraordinary. I have no sympathy for Lev Davydych. And little by little we will deal with legends. Yours faithfully
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 17 August 2021 18: 36
          +1
          Andrew! hi
          The username "HanTengri" is Igor.
          1. Fat
            Fat 17 August 2021 18: 39
            +1
            Thanks. Made a note
        2. Han Tengri
          Han Tengri 17 August 2021 19: 44
          +1
          Quote: Thick
          Khan. So Lyova was a person ... Extraordinary.

          hi And I, after all, really argue ?!
          Quote: Thick
          I have no sympathy for Lev Davydych.

          Similarly. drinks
          1. Fat
            Fat 17 August 2021 20: 32
            +1
            Anton, with his playful scrupulousness, will soon make us gentlemen.
            To the words of You K..l we will begin to answer "and when were we introduced?"
            Glad to meet you sincerely, I have a slightly varied manner of entering the site. Some things are missing. drinks with respect.
  11. astra wild2
    astra wild2 16 August 2021 21: 39
    +1
    "POUM was written by the famous Sudoplatov" Vyacheslav Olegovich, but if we assume that one of the Trotskyists collaborated with the valve? I am sure the rank and file members of POUM fought sincerely with Franco, and someone from the leadership, for various reasons, could become a traitor.
    Reich intelligence services were headed by smart people and were looking for traitors, first of all, among the leadership
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 16 August 2021 22: 53
      +2
      Quote: Astra wild2
      I am sure the rank and file members of POUM fought sincerely with Franco

      This is not disputed. Simply, if you cannot win, then you have to lead. And this theme is at the heart of most revolutions. Ordinary people - yes, for all the good. But the result is completely different. And there are plenty of examples.
  12. hohol95
    hohol95 16 August 2021 21: 45
    -1
    Well intentioned ...
    They only dreamed and at the same time ran away from the fighting positions to drink some wine in the nearest tavern!
    1. Fat
      Fat 16 August 2021 22: 16
      -1
      hi Is Alexei worth condemning? Perhaps in that very tavern, at first the opponents cleaned each other's faces and then ... selflessly shot ...
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 17 August 2021 05: 17
        +1
        If only "opponents" ... drinking companions.
        The Francoists had better discipline.
        It is understandable - although they were transferred from North Africa, but still an army!
  13. astra wild2
    astra wild2 16 August 2021 22: 12
    +2
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, you are an interesting and intelligent author, but sometimes you get carried away. And today is just such a case
    1. kalibr
      17 August 2021 10: 27
      0
      Quote: Astra wild2
      but sometimes you get carried away. And today is just such a case

      But I do not agree ... Given information that you would otherwise dig and dig. Waste both time and effort. POUM, POUM, what kind of "pum" no one really knows. Even in my novel "Three from Ensk" (part 2), very little has been written about POUM ...
      1. astra wild2
        astra wild2 17 August 2021 13: 08
        0
        "very little is written" you lacked the information or was it unnecessary for the plot?
        1. kalibr
          17 August 2021 13: 24
          +1
          So after all, the novel was not about POUM, firstly, and secondly, why unnecessary information in the novel? The days of Jules Verne are over. But ... if I had more information then, otherwise I would have presented it in the novel.
          1. astra wild2
            astra wild2 18 August 2021 17: 32
            0
            So I was not mistaken: there was not enough information
  14. Darkness
    Darkness 16 August 2021 22: 16
    0
    Very informative, plus. Olegovich in his corporate style. And with Stalin there was an inaccuracy - so Vissarionovich did not live abroad, and a short trip to the congress could not give him anything, after all, he had to deal with party affairs and not study life in Sweden.
  15. BAI
    BAI 16 August 2021 22: 21
    +3
    Spanish Civil War. Until now, it is the most unknown European war. And to this day.

    Why is she unknown? The war was reflected in a huge number of documents, research, fiction, and finally in painting.
    But the "seal war" on the White Sea - from 1920 to 1933 - 13 years! Absolutely unknown.
    1. Fat
      Fat 16 August 2021 22: 35
      0
      hi Well, educate. Many unknowns. Write! We will find out from you.
      With respect.
  16. Disobedient
    Disobedient 17 August 2021 00: 47
    +3
    Beginning in 1918, quite a few Marxist organizations of the "opposition" type arose. The Trotskyists did not recognize Stalin, the left-wing communists did not recognize Lenin. There were many different Marxist trends.
    And communists are not always Marxists). So POUM is not unique, but a drop in the ocean.
  17. alexey alexeyev_4
    alexey alexeyev_4 17 August 2021 03: 38
    0
    Actually, Iosif Vissarionovich made a mistake about which he probably regretted all his life. He released Trotsky. How many problems we would have avoided. The author's attempt to wash the black dog white by kicking Stalin in like manner. The Spaniards loved Trotsky so much that one of them did not regret his life to bang this devil ..
  18. ivan2022
    ivan2022 17 August 2021 07: 12
    +2
    Billions of people in different countries of the world have benefited from the existence of the USSR. Heh .. heh ... except for the Russians. Eh ma .. It is necessary to be like that !!!
    1. Fat
      Fat 17 August 2021 10: 09
      0
      What should you be? In a short time, the country became an industrial power.
      Explain, Ivan
      1. ivan2022
        ivan2022 17 August 2021 11: 02
        +2
        Quote: Thick
        What should you be? In a short time, the country became an industrial power.
        Explain, Ivan

        And what's the point if they let everything down?
        If those who died in the War could rise from their graves, they would ask you to "explain" ...... And what would you explain to them? The history of a people is a history of moral ups and downs. Those who Pali have no right to equal those who built and won.
        You need to have at least a little conscience ...
        1. Fat
          Fat 17 August 2021 13: 56
          0
          It is not for you to reproach Ivan with his conscience. My father fought, in 1942 he defended Stalingrad. I asked you, and you deigned to excuse yourself under the guise of people who have gone into legend. I will not insist, it is clear that you are not ready.
          With respect.
          1. ivan2022
            ivan2022 17 August 2021 15: 58
            +1
            I thought so. Once a father ... Once a grandfather and great-grandfather ... So "we fought, we plowed, we created an industry"
  19. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 17 August 2021 18: 58
    0
    I read and understood that you can sculpt anything to order. Would pay money ...
    I am not even going to dispute the article, since it is pointless to discuss a set of stamps and unconfirmed data. Again the animal grin of Stalinism, and a sent Cossack from the NKVD in the steppes of Catalan.
    I will say one thing - the topic of the Spanish Civil War cannot be covered in one article.
    And the story should have begun at least with the alignment of political forces after the victory in the elections in 1936.
    "Oblique, Oblique .. Just a little, so immediately Oblique ..." ©
    wassat
  20. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 18 August 2021 08: 49
    -1
    = Because during the war in Spain, it was clearly indicated to all leftist forces that revolutionary movements, wherever they were, could be controlled only from Moscow. Any other initiative is a "deviation" with all ... =
    The author did not even bother to provide evidence for his claim. And why, people and so gobble up.
    = The independent left posed a threat: what if they do better than the Kremlin's henchmen? =
    I decided that it makes no sense to read this vyser further. I decided to check myself ... and, for sure (!) - Shpakovsky.
    Well, not surprised, not surprised.
    P.S. Although the photos are good, they are good. The only merit of the article.