The commander "Swifts" slandered

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The commander "Swifts" slanderedFamous commander aviation aerobatic teams "Swifts" Valery Morozov remains in limbo. The Russian Ministry of Defense decided to dismiss an officer from military service before September 5, 2012 for failure to comply with the terms of the contract. At the Ivan Kozhedub Aviation Technology Display Center, an official hearing will soon begin. The fate of the lieutenant colonel will have to decide the certification committee.

The former deputy commander of the Swifts, solo pilot, Guard Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry Koposov, who currently works as a co-pilot in Yakutia Airlines, agreed to comment on the situation.

Recall, Valery Morozov was detained in the Moscow region airbag Kubinka, according to one of the versions, while receiving money from a businessman for using the emblem of the aerobatic team. According to another, he demanded money from subordinates. At the same time, Valery Morozov himself does not admit his guilt and claims that he was slandered, possibly by one of the officers dismissed from the group.

-Dmitry, to whom, in your opinion, could this provocation be profitable?

-The man who framed Valery Morozov, came to us in "Swifts" four years ago. At that time we took a person to the 1 - 2 aerobatic team per year. Accordingly, we counted on them, because at that time the process of transfer to the group ranged from 6 to 8 months. At that time I was the deputy commander of the aerobatic team for educational work. And the first question that Alexey Novikov asked me was: “Dmitry Alexandrovich, when will I have the same beautiful jumpsuit like yours?” I answered him: “After the first loop from take-off”. This apparently upset him, and after three months he wrote off on contrived headaches. When the pilot has no reason to write off, he tells the doctors: "You know, I have a headache when I take off." The head, as they say, is a dark subject, is not subject to research. In such cases, the pilot is usually blamed on flight work and everyone disagrees with the world.

Absolutely none of us expected Novikov such a setup. But Valery Morozov arranged for his spouse through personal connections to a good neuropathologist, he helped as much as he could. This man for our entire team just died. It is our fault that we did not see his true face in time.

And now Novikov live with it. There is a high court - own conscience. But if he still agreed with her somehow ... No one will beat him. Who needs to get dirty about him?

-How could the business of Alexey Novikov be associated with the symbolism of "Swifts"?

-I was very surprised to find out that Novikov is a businessman. And what relation he has to the symbolism of "Swifts" is not clear. The rightholder of the Swifts emblem is not even the Ministry of Defense, not the aerobatic team and not the pilots. This right is reserved for one - the only person. I know this person personally, and I can assure you that he was not acquainted with Novikov. Who is he - can be found in the patent office. One thing I can say is our good friend. In order to protect ourselves from the appearance of the logo "Swifts" on some unacceptable goods, we asked this person to take on all the costs of its design. By and large, the ownership of the Swifts emblem does not bring any tangible profits.

- Initially, it was reported that Valery Morozov demanded from seven of his subordinates in the process of dismissal, according to 5, thousand rubles. for the fact that he will not demand their appearance in the service until the release of the order for their dismissal.

-I quit recently, in July. True, I didn’t refer to the Swifts subdivision, for the last three years I served in the management of the Ivan Kozhedub Aviation Engineering Center. But the pilots are all my friends, I am very familiar with the situation. Believe me, even with regard to one person, there was no evidence of extortion, not to mention seven. There are seven of those who quit - it will not reach.

- “Strizhi” and “Russian Vityazi” have already offered to relocate to Lipetsk. Do pilots of aerobatic teams trying to squeeze out of Kubinka in this way?

- It all came together at one point. Novikov said with his statement to the police. The group got into a situation when you need to fly to an international show, and Valery Anatolyevich cannot be replaced. The group basically got out of this situation, but I am sure that the four of them in Serbia would work much better than the three.

And you would like to squeeze out the pilots from Kubinka, they could have done it much easier. The hype here to anything. Anyone engaged in such intrigues should understand that the aerobatic team has access to both the press and friends. To soil such a name as Morozov is quite difficult.

- Earlier it was reported that officer Morozov was going to be dismissed from military service until 5 September 2012 for non-compliance with the terms of the contract.

- This is another item that makes me very happy. If they meant, allegedly, extortion, then this is simply ridiculous, because the fact itself has not yet been proved, moreover, even the charge has not been brought. If the officer didn’t observe any other clauses of the contract, why wasn’t it noticed before, but suddenly surfaced now? Someone in the Ministry of Defense first takes some steps, and only then thinks.

- In the case of Valery Morozov, an official hearing will be held at the Kozhedub Center. How will the certification commission work?

-There is a fact of application. Trying to sully the officer. So, in part, a commission is expected, which will consider the behavior of the pilot on the basis of documents prepared, including by the personnel department. A decision will be made, for example, the officer behaved with dignity, or - not with dignity, we looked at it. I think the attestation commission will consider everything fairly and make its conclusion. Certification commission is not to be scared. Valery Anatolyevich has nothing to fear. He is an honest man and an honest officer.

- Have you communicated with Valery Morozov in recent days?

-Yes. He was stunned, firstly, by the behavior of Novikov himself, secondly by the inadequate reaction of the Ministry of Defense itself. They wanted to flood the person first, and then see what came of it? Will pass through this test officer, or will not pass? It seems that the Ministry of Defense is just interested, but what will happen if we aggravate the situation? This, in my opinion, is absolutely the wrong position in relation to the officer corps.

I remember the case of two years ago, when during fires the warehouses on the basis of the Navy in the Kolomna region near Moscow caught fire. By the decree of President Dmitry Medvedev, high-ranking officials were dismissed, as well as Colonel Rasskazov, Deputy Chief of Aviation of the Navy, and base commander Colonel Viktor Biront. The latter was fired with the wording “due to non-performance of the contract”. During the investigation, it turned out that the same Biront showed exceptional heroism. He served in the Armed Forces 26 for years, during which time he did not receive a single penalty. In the suburban Kolomna district in the post of base commander, he served only three months and 25 days, and all this time he took measures to ensure fire safety at the base. He and his sailors on their own to the last extinguished the fire, rescued important documents from the fire, weapon and ammunition. They had to be rewarded for it. But not everyone was able to save ... The media then called about the negligence of the military. A year later, the Lyuberetsky garrison military court figured out and reinstated Viktor Biront. It was recognized illegal and the dismissal of Colonel Rasskazova. This worthy officer and now safely serves in the army. Only information about this has not passed anywhere.

Valery Morozov is also insanely hard now. Slapping a man is easy. Who then will whitewash the pilot?
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  1. Vanek
    +8
    7 September 2012 07: 01
    As required.

    It’s easy to pour mud on a person. Who will whitewash the pilot?

    The word is not a sparrow ............

    Hello to everyone.
    1. +1
      7 September 2012 08: 06
      Quote: Vanek
      Hello to everyone.

      Good morning! Personally, I think, before you dismiss such a pro, you need to think a hundred times. And we are ready to immediately break .........
      Forgive and bring to disciplinary action! good drinks hi
  2. +1
    7 September 2012 07: 03
    Do not you look, min. Defense thinks to dismiss or not! No, they have long been rehabilitating the person they think! What a (............ checkmate)! angry
    1. +1
      7 September 2012 09: 11
      I wonder who was responsible for the illegal dismissal of officers allegedly responsible for the fire at the base, who compensated the material and moral damage to these officers, or again these heroes are beyond jurisdiction.
  3. -1
    7 September 2012 07: 05
    The story is not beautiful. Most likely there is someone's material interest. In any case, it is precisely this interest that guides the tops in recent years 10. And although I am not a supporter of the very idea of ​​group piloting on heavy fighters, but it’s impossible.
  4. 0
    7 September 2012 07: 07
    Colleagues, I welcome everyone and good morning to all.
    The article is, of course, well-intentioned, and all those accusatory words uttered in it deserve attention and respect, as did Valery Morozov, who fell into the fraudulent situation. But! In this whole story, they completely forgot about the initiators of this incident and all the cobblestones flew towards the Moscow Region. And this is only part of the truth.
    I personally see the blame of the MO only in that part that it did not show a sufficiently clear position in relation to this case, but to declare it in the same way as it stated in the heat of the moment

    inadequate reaction of the Ministry of Defense itself. They wanted to flood the person first, and then see what comes of this? Will the officer pass through this test or not? It seems that the Ministry of Defense is simply interested, but what will happen if we aggravate the situation? This, in my opinion, is an absolutely wrong position in relation to the officer corps.

    This is not a beautiful attempt to present everything as if it were an initiative of the Moscow Region itself. There should be objectivity in everything, colleagues. If very many do not like the person of the Minister of Defense and his affairs and, thanks to this, our defense department will incline everything into its own way, then this is one thing. And if due to the fault of one nonsense who concocted a linden on a worthy person and enlisted the help of an appropriate office in this unseemly matter, the Ministry of Defense wants (again - due to the unpopularity of the official) to hang up the whole burden of allegations of falsification, then this is different, colleagues. Let's separate the flies from the cutlets.
    1. +4
      7 September 2012 07: 37
      Valery welcome. The question is not who did it. The question is with whom. The color of the Russian aviation "Swifts" and so to do with their commander. Sergey VAF explained this situation on another branch, this is pure commerce. What is more surprising is the position of the Ministry of Defense and personally the GDP. Now that everything has fallen into place, we will watch how they behave.
      1. +1
        7 September 2012 07: 50
        Quote: Steam Train
        and personally GDP


        Zhenya, I welcome you. I have already said about the reaction of the Ministry of Defense. If there is confirmation of the reaction of GDP to this story - show. On the other hand, one can appeal to GDP when lawlessness prevails. But there are no decisions on this case and no conclusions. There is an incomprehensible situation and people's emotions. Everyone is aware of who cast a shadow, but this does not mean that he has already been convicted. If everything, to our great pleasure, is resolved in the most prosperous way, Morozov will have a great opportunity to sue for defamation and defaming an honest name. And, believe me, the innocent will be rehabilitated in all directions.
        An example of this is

        The media then phoned about the negligence of the military. And a year later, the Lyubertsy garrison military court sorted out and reinstated Victor Biront. It was recognized illegal and the dismissal of Colonel Rasskazov. This worthy officer and now safely serves in the army. Only information about this has not passed anywhere.
        1. +1
          7 September 2012 07: 57
          And where will they find the last one who is to blame? Someone who threw money on the table? So it's so simple six. And the tinned man spat in the face. And now how and to whom in court for libel, on operas who believed in this fairy tale and came to detention ?? And the fact is that the thing is that there is no reaction of GDP even to the collective writing of swifts and knights. Absolute 0.
          1. 0
            7 September 2012 08: 04
            Quote: Steam Train
            And where will they find the last one who is to blame?


            Are you asking me? It feels like you didn’t read my commentary-response to your previous post ... Your emotions prevail and I understand you, but emotions in this case can only do much harm. Once again, I will refer to the words of the article

            And a year later, the Lyubertsy garrison military court sorted out and reinstated Victor Biront. It was recognized illegal and the dismissal of Colonel Rasskazov. This worthy officer and now safely serves in the army
            And in your own words
            Quote: esaul
            If everything, to our great pleasure, is resolved in the most prosperous way, Morozov will have a great opportunity to sue for defamation and defaming an honest name


            Then from the case about the sailors mentioned in the article, the "Morozov case" will receive publicity and publicity will serve Valery well.
            1. +1
              8 September 2012 05: 16
              Quote: esaul
              Morozov's case "will receive publicity and publicity will serve Valery well.

              Already served, fired. Read Valera again that he wrote
      2. +3
        7 September 2012 08: 00
        Quote: Steam Train
        Now that everything has fallen into place, we will see how they behave.

        Hi Zhenya, now that they’re talking about this and giving examples of the behavior of the breeder, the dismissal of Morozov, society in Russia simply won’t understand. .
        1. +1
          7 September 2012 08: 20
          Hi Sanya.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          .A MO, the first was to intervene and at least initiate a check against the contractor, and not get off with phrases, such as will be fired.
          Well, you made me laugh. When did they want to figure it out? For them "Swifts" is a group of pilots who fly at parades, in short, an air circus. Their logic is to release everything on the brakes and see what happens from the outside.
          1. +1
            7 September 2012 08: 34
            Quote: Steam Train
            Their logic in the next release everything on the brakes and from the side to see what will happen.

            Yes, you won’t stay here and don’t let it go, you didn’t slander from the buildingibody. They will be forced to make decisions and, as the hype in the press grows, they will make excuses, otherwise, they will not spit on Serdyukov and his home-grown favorites.
            1. +1
              7 September 2012 09: 11
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              , otherwise, in Serdyukov and his home-grown favorites, all and sundry will spit.
              Oh damn do not tell my gray hair. If they spit on him again, he will not even notice. And so the whole spat on.
      3. VAF
        VAF
        +6
        8 September 2012 00: 23
        Quote: Steam Train
        The color of the Russian aviation "Swifts" and so to do with their commander. Sergey VAF explained this situation on another branch, this is pure commerce


        I have already expressed my opinion and more than once, therefore I will not repeat myself!
        Dima Kosopov expressed everything precisely. there is a setup, we didn’t make out the setup !!!

        Just do not reproach that I block my friends and stuff like that ... who is where and what will Mr. Esaul understand? Or do you still believe that this initiative comes only from Taburetkin ????

        The article is belated. The certification committee has already been. read everything, only carefully ..... Who has any other questions ???????









        The commander of "Swifts" Valery Morozov is dismissed with such results of the certification commission.
        True, why is it so hasty, after a month the contract expires, they just would not have extended it, but no.
        At the same time, interesting details are found out.
        Documents for the post of deputy were sent to Valera Morozov twice, but they were wrapped twice, now I wonder who will take this place? Maybe this is the reason?
        There is not much to wait ......... although ... everyone understands everything perfectly! soldier
        1. +1
          8 September 2012 00: 47
          no comments .................
        2. +1
          8 September 2012 05: 14
          Thank you Sergey, our Defense Ministry and Mr. Serdyukov seem to obey only their logic, in which there is no place for good pilots.
        3. 0
          9 September 2012 00: 49
          It would be interesting to read the instructions of the Chief of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated August 31.08.2012, 173 No. 5/77550/XNUMX. Then the face of each official in this case would appear more clearly ...
    2. +7
      7 September 2012 09: 55
      Quote: esaul
      I personally see the guilt of the MoD only in the part that it did not show a sufficiently clear position on this matter.

      Yep Those. telegram about the dismissal of the officer on suspicion, before the trial - is that normal? !! What kind of moron in MO did you give this telegram? And how did you see the lack of clarity in the position of the MoD? In fact, not fired, or what?
      The NORMAL MO position in this case is to comment that until the COURT makes a decision on the guilt or innocence of V. Morozov, no action will be taken against V. Morozov. And here it would be in full compliance with the laws of the Russian Federation and the laws of honor and morality
      But the throwing "Wait, I'll fire it!" "no ... wait for now" only shows one thing - either:
      1) Or MO just looked for ANY excuse to remove V.Morozov (very clean, yes)
      2) Or the Ministry of Defense got trite scared, as if he would not be remembered dashingly and decided to quickly "decisively dissociate" from the scandal
      And in this and in another case, there is a dense incompetence - ignorance of the laws of the Russian Federation.
      Quote: esaul
      There must be objectivity in everything, colleagues.

      So show this very objectivity - describe the MO in the light of the above, and do not practice fine language. For now - a minus.
  5. bask
    +2
    7 September 2012 07: 09
    What is happening ? The commander of an aerobatic team known to the whole world. Without trial and investigation. ,,,, Mixed with mud ,,,. Here is an example of an information war, discrimination in action. Already against Russia. They hit the most ,,, healthy ,,. what is in the army.
  6. +1
    7 September 2012 07: 18
    it's all behind the scenes showdown (((
    1. Vanek
      +1
      7 September 2012 07: 39
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      it's all behind the scenes showdown (((


      Here is a little different. But somewhere you are right.
  7. zol1
    +3
    7 September 2012 07: 53
    In this whole story, the dirty essence of our state!
    1. +4
      7 September 2012 08: 59
      Quote: zol1
      dirty essence of our state


      A little correct, the leaders of our state. You and I are also a particle.
  8. +4
    7 September 2012 07: 55
    Unfortunately, such cases are becoming commonplace. And as a rule, orderly and responsible people are at gunpoint.
    And the worst thing is that in any scenario, these bastards succeed,
    - If they prove the accusation - the precedent for further cleaning check disbandment, etc.
    - If they don’t prove it, every fucker will be able to poke it, express their filthy opinion.

    Or maybe they decided to our Falcons - slip a crow in the form of a civilian boss ?!

    In general, all this is disgusting. Who passed through this - knows.
  9. Brother Sarych
    +3
    7 September 2012 08: 04
    Almost no one doubted that this was a setup of pure water, but I would like to look deeper ...
    I still believe that this was done to completely eliminate these aerobatic teams! Rumors are constantly circulating about their elimination or transformation, because they are sitting in a now not very convenient place. They want to adapt the Cuban for a long time to something more advantageous for their own pockets and aerobatic teams are very disturbing, as they say ...
    Therefore, I believe that all this should be considered purely in terms of the elimination of aerobatic teams - they did not want to voluntarily roll out of their place, it would be even worse! The commander took a bribe, which the traffic cop disdains, now his deputy will violate the rules of the road, the pilots will rattle for drinking drinks on the playground and obscene language in a public place ...
    1. dmb
      0
      7 September 2012 09: 55
      Do you seriously think that you belong to an elite aerobatic team. and it gives the right to any group to drink 3 vodka on the playground. ride a red light and swear in public?
      1. Brother Sarych
        +2
        7 September 2012 12: 50
        No, it does not, but the level of threat to society meant the pretext for reprisal ...
  10. broker
    +3
    7 September 2012 08: 07
    There is a war that you only wanted to divide it into several types now, and now we have the most powerful and adequate Russians, pour mud and drive into the coffin (((((((((
    1. 0
      7 September 2012 09: 21
      I agree. The fifth column in action.
  11. +2
    7 September 2012 08: 10
    They want to discredit the best by pouring mud. Maybe it's time to rot this yellow on airplanes and take it out of bounds at a time?
  12. sapulid
    +2
    7 September 2012 08: 37
    Tired of !!!!!!

    Subject, crap ... my. What happened there, the story is dark. There are, as a result, the court, colleagues, who have access to information. No merits give a person the right to break the law. If, guilty, let him answer. It turns out swara, as in the Gudkov case in the State Duma. Dirt on both. It’s good, the more der..ma lights up, the more they will be cleaned, but, having no real picture, I think it’s shameful to condemn anyone.
  13. +3
    7 September 2012 09: 03
    Damn the guys I know one thing from personal experience, to a normal man, he doesn’t stick, falls off right there. It’s shitty that faith in people nearby is lost, and the number of friends decreases.

    Remember at Exupery? why do you go with a lighted lamp during the day - looking for a man.
    1. +2
      7 September 2012 09: 24
      I am aware of how "people" interested in "fighting" corruption do such things. For example, with good intent, the applicant writes a statement and the Fighters develop a plan for the execution of which the applicant gives an envelope with marked money to the victim, as if he were just an acquaintance. The latter, not even knowing the contents and not guessing about the availability of money, takes it in his hands and immediately the fighters appear in the office and dup him with the money. There are other ways as well. Need for inventions is cunning. There are many ways of giving money, here is the return of debt, the transfer of money from friends. Well, this case with the emblem in my head does not fit. Well, who needs this emblem and was it in use, but even here you can find a "plausible excuse". In short, she is a bastard and a bastard.
  14. +1
    7 September 2012 09: 09
    Quote: vorobey

    Remember at Exupery? why do you go with a lighted lamp during the day - looking for a man

    Hi Sasha, there seems to have been a question about an honest person. In our time, he would have run with a searchlight.
  15. +3
    7 September 2012 09: 34
    MoE is giving up its (?) People over and over again. The spirit of corporatism has been lost, in its best manifestation, of course. And here it will be, as with Bironte, everything is in order, I am sure, it will only do without dismissal. But again, without an apology from the MO. As in a joke, first pzd ........ t, and then they will make a serene face: "this is not me, this is not me ...". Absolutely oh ...... And a person can fly, serve the Motherland with such a sediment (if, of course, he stays), but in this case it will be possible to understand him. No, well, we have a sea of ​​aerobatic aces, you by chance in front of Kubinka did not see a line of professionals of the HIGHEST class. No!? So I am not, although I have not been there, but I am sure that she is not!
  16. +3
    7 September 2012 13: 00
    I spoke on this subject even in the last thread.
    In my understanding, they poured mud on a Man and a Citizen and then a military pilot. I am convinced that Valery Morozov will be acquitted after the check. I am also convinced that "Only such a decent person and a professional in his business could lead such a wonderful team. Otherwise he would not be the commander. "
    Well, after checking and rehabilitating the name, I would advise Valery to file a statement of defamation and a claim for compensation for non-pecuniary damage.
    1. +2
      7 September 2012 13: 07
      Quote: Apollon
      Well, after checking and rehabilitating the name, I would advise Valery to file a libel and a claim for compensation for moral damage.
      Hi Apollon. And to whom to apply? On the six that tried to palm off him an envelope, or on operas that did not work but did their job? The fact is that the customer of all this performance cannot be found. But the MO apologies in the press would be nice to hear.
      1. +1
        8 September 2012 13: 39
        Quote: Steam Train
        And to whom to apply? On the six that tried to palm off him an envelope, or on operas that did not work but did their job? The fact is that the customer of all this performance cannot be found. But the MO apologies in the press would be nice to hear.





        there would be one good detective he would go to both customers and organizers! IMHO
  17. DIMS
    +2
    8 September 2012 08: 53
    The certification sheet is simply enchanting.

    It would be wise for him to find a good lawyer from former military lawyers, that he was in the subject, and to sue the Moscow Region on the fact of illegal dismissal. With great compensation for moral damage.

    When in a hurry, documents are drawn up for such dismissals on command from above, someone will burst iron, and someone will intentionally make a mistake.

    He is unlikely to benefit from this except for unnecessary problems. But the matter will receive a great public outcry, and the native Moscow region will beware of substituting officers like that.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +4
      8 September 2012 12: 02
      Quote: DIMS
      Yes, and native MO will beware so substitute officers.


      "Native MO (furniture education of Taburetkin) absolutely doesn't care ........ on their officers !!!! soldier
      1. +2
        8 September 2012 12: 12
        Quote: DIMS

        The certification sheet is simply enchanting.

        It would be wise for him to find a good lawyer from former military lawyers, that he was in the subject, and to sue the Moscow Region on the fact of illegal dismissal

        Dear, after tomorrow Esther will post a video, just with such a case and everything is told in detail about the courts and court decisions, as well as how these decisions are scored.

        Quote: vaf

        "Native MO (furniture education of Taburetkin) absolutely doesn't care ........ on their officers!

        Hi Sergey, there’s a video on YouTube of a special forces colonel fired and now living in a tent. Esther will put it out and see how our MO treats real officers.
        1. DIMS
          +1
          8 September 2012 12: 34
          Dear, after tomorrow Esther will post a video, just with such a case and everything is told in detail about the courts and court decisions, as well as how these decisions are scored.

          I said that it’s unlikely that something will shine for him, but still such a court will get a public response.
          In addition, the dismissal on this point is a very worthless thing, he will not receive a lump sum, and this is for him 20 salaries of DS, he also loses the right to provide housing. It’s necessary to fight.
      2. DIMS
        0
        8 September 2012 12: 53
        And this is filthy. Of our class of boys only one went to college, and not to a military school. I don’t think that such a percentage-bad attitude towards officers, invalids and pensioners is now leading to a big lack of intelligence in the platoon level. Lieutenants begin to collect documents for dismissal from the first day in the unit.
  18. +2
    8 September 2012 11: 11
    Lyaya ... the text and output in the attestation is something. Everyone who signed it was shaking to hiccups for his place. Will they ever be ashamed of it? However, this is a purely rhetorical question ... Everything is permissible in the army of Oorfene Deuce ... meanness, betrayal and ... meanness again.
    1. DIMS
      -1
      8 September 2012 11: 32
      Well, I don’t know, for me, so the drafters and signatories of the certification rather expressed their attitude to what is happening
  19. +1
    8 September 2012 23: 30
    Quote: DIMS
    compilers and signatories of certification rather expressed their attitude to what is happening

    This is called the "swamp". And ours and yours. At least there is a word about when, where and how the terms of the contract were violated? I'm not saying that there was no such thing in the SA. But there and then at least they knew how to formulate why ...