American magazine named the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" the most unlucky ship of the Russian Navy

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Although the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" went through a series of accidents, accidents and other disasters, the command of the Russian Navy is not going to write it off. It is probably of great importance for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

American columnist Mark Episkopos discusses this topic in his article published by The National Interest.



It cannot be said that Russia is poorly developing its Navy. On the contrary, new surface warships and submarines are constantly being supplied to its armament. And at the same time, it is in no way successful in modernizing the only aircraft carrier of the Russian Federation - the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov".

The ship has experienced so many breakdowns that cost the Russian budget billions of dollars that it would probably be cheaper to build or purchase a new similar ship.

Actually, his career began without much incident. In 1991 it was transferred to the fleet, but it reached full operational readiness by the mid-90s. His difficulties began in 2016. Then, due to problems with the equipment of the cruiser, the fleet lost two carrier-based fighters, after which its modernization began. During the repair work, a crane fell on the ship, breaking through the hull of the cruiser. This happened due to the flooding of the floating dock at the repair plant. Rebuilding the hull is said to have cost about a billion. A similar amount of damage was caused in 2019 by a fire that caught fire of oiled debris on the deck while welding. The accident resulted in the death of two people, another 14 suffered from burns and smoke poisoning.

Because of all this, the American magazine named the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" the most unlucky ship of the Russian Navy.

And yet, the command of the fleet does not intend to write off the only aircraft carrier so far, but is going to modernize and return it to service. The ship will receive new weapons and electronics, as well as an improved deck landing system and other innovations. This is expected to happen by 2023.
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  1. +4
    4 August 2021 09: 50
    I would say long-suffering.
    1. -12
      4 August 2021 09: 53
      With the current level of technology and missile range, I personally do not see the feasibility of creating and maintaining aircraft carriers. Only if these are not light vessels for drone UAVs.
      Our borders are vast - with current affairs, it would be a dream to cover them, what kind of aircraft carrier warrants there are!
      1. +1
        4 August 2021 09: 57
        Quote: mojohed2012
        With the current level of technology and missile range, I personally do not see the feasibility of creating and maintaining aircraft carriers

        And the tanks?
      2. -6
        4 August 2021 10: 41
        Rather, given the current economic situation in Russia. The reality of the world is such that the law of force is much stronger than the force of law, and aircraft carriers are one of the most effective means of advancing their external political and economic interests, which is what the United States is doing and what China is preparing for.
        1. +1
          4 August 2021 11: 29
          Drag, for
          promoting their external political and economic interests
          combat-ready aircraft carriers are needed (if at all).
          "Kuznetsov" is a permanent repair, a vacuum cleaner for budgetary allocations without clear prospects for the timing and quality of repairs. And the years go by.
          Not applicable to the idea of ​​having aircraft carriers in general, IMHO it is better to stop torturing the poor fellow and send him to a well-deserved rest.
          1. +2
            4 August 2021 11: 35
            I did not talk about "Kuznetsov", but answered

            With the current level of technology and missile range, I personally do not see the feasibility of creating and maintaining aircraft carriers.


            a modern aircraft carrier is an expensive weapon, Russia is now simply inaccessible, there is nowhere to build, nothing to fill (carrier-based fighters, AWACS), there are also problems with escort ships.
      3. 0
        4 August 2021 11: 01
        Quote: mojohed2012
        With the current level of technology and missile range, I personally do not see the feasibility of creating and maintaining aircraft carriers

        Straight Nikita Sergeevich) laughing
      4. +2
        4 August 2021 12: 54
        Quote: mojohed2012
        With the current level of technology and missile range, I personally do not see the feasibility of creating and maintaining aircraft carriers

        Let the missile range be R and the aircraft combat radius R2. So that's it. R + R2> R. Applicable for all cases where R2 is greater than zero. I don’t remember when it’s taught, but the word is, this is not an institute, and not even high school. A rocket attached to an aircraft, all other things being equal, will always fly farther. That's just due to the addition to the combat radius of the aircraft. And to imagine an aircraft with a zero or negative radius of action .... Personally, I do not have enough imagination.
        If the radius is 500 km, then all other things being equal, the avik will be able to work with impunity for about 15 hours. If 800-900, then up to a day. Before you reach for it. And then ... This is if he is at anchor. If it has a speed comparable to you, then .... But so yes. There is no expediency in the ability to deliver unrequited strikes. Yes
        1. PPD
          -2
          6 August 2021 15: 27
          Yeah, there will be enough kerosene on board for 15 hours, and weapons for such an intensive work. The pace of release of strike aircraft crazy - preparation for the next flight - 10 minutes, yeah. The pilot has to run to the toilet. Rocket rocket strife. So it's not a fact.
          Aircraft carrier group against whom to start up then gathered? Attack our territory? This is one thing. We don't have huge ocean squadrons - well, against a couple of our ships, yes.
          But they are also not whipping boys. They also have arguments.
          So, you've got a horse in a vacuum.
          1. 0
            6 August 2021 21: 35
            Quote: PPD
            Yeah, there will be enough kerosene on board for 15 hours, and weapons for such an intensive work.

            Of course not. One flight, and the sailors take buckets, sit on the raft, and go in search of the nearest tanker. lol
            96 liters per ton of displacement, fuel reserves on nimits, actually. Or 9.5 thousand tons. For 15 hours of hostilities .... Somehow enough. Yes
            Quote: PPD
            The rate of release of strike aircraft is crazy

            During the 1997 exercises, Nimitz showed almost 250 sorties per day. With 9 points of suspension for the supert, this is under 2k missiles and bombs. A portion that's not easy to digest.
            Quote: PPD
            But they are also not whipping boys. They also have arguments.

            Only if their air defense is capable of digesting a thousand or two anti-ship missiles, and they themselves are capable of releasing the same amount. To break through the air defense AUG. That is, if they can still reach the same AUG. In other cases ... Alas. Just whipping boys. But then yes. An argument in style - and we don't have so many ships that they sent AUG to chase after them ... This is strong.
    2. +5
      4 August 2021 09: 58
      Quote: knn54
      I would say long-suffering.

      And, what can you do, there is no choice. Today it is the only aircraft carrier ship in the ranks of the Russian Navy. God willing, everything will be fine.

      hi
    3. 0
      4 August 2021 10: 17
      Quote: knn54
      long-suffering

      It happens that a steamer, from construction, is pursued by setbacks .... Such karma. hi And nothing can be fixed ...
      1. -1
        4 August 2021 11: 23
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        It happens that a steamer, from construction, is pursued by setbacks .... Such karma.

        Yes
        And it happens that the parents prepared and waited, but when the "child" was born, it turned out that he was an orphan. True, I had such an opinion in connection with the attitude of the HMS and EBN to the Armed Forces of the former USSR in the late 80s and early 90s (if my memory serves me, both did not serve in the army, and one of them constantly flaunted, as well as those, that he was "shod" by the riders on the train).
        The ship is not to blame, that it was not lucky with the name. He no longer remembers who he really is. Russian shipbuilders have pledged to complete the reconstruction by 2023. I hope that my health is enough for a couple of years, I want to see how it will end and who in 2024 will tell us about the new plans of the hulk.
        hi
        1. +2
          4 August 2021 12: 10
          Quote: ROSS 42
          no luck with the name

          Sometimes the ship is unlucky regardless of the name ... hi
          1. -2
            5 August 2021 17: 23
            An aircraft carrier is a wonderful tool that expands the ability of the state to conduct and dictate its policy in the world, creating a numerical superiority in the region of interest, in peacetime. And a wonderful target for enemy hypersonic missiles in case large war. Few countries in the world can afford to have aircraft carriers. The need for them is generally in a limited number of countries.

            Does Russia need aircraft carriers? It seems that Russia, which has the largest territory in the world and declares a defensive policy, is not needed. But I think it would be nice to have a couple of aircraft carriers in the Northern and Pacific fleets. When funds appear for them.

            As for Kuznetsov, the Americans, in my opinion, are exaggerating and exaggerating. Yes, there were annoying accidents, mainly due to coastal slobs. It is necessary to upgrade the ship and return it to the base. It will also serve.
    4. -1
      4 August 2021 15: 43
      So the admiral himself did not get the same from the leaders. Opal for opal. But the peasant is strong, peasant sourdough. Resisted.
    5. -2
      6 August 2021 15: 41
      About the "most unlucky" - let me disagree! He even fought.

      The most unlucky ones are those ships and submarines that were cut to please their "partners" with new ones, barely taking up combat duty ... But even sadder is that they were simply unfinished and for similar reasons were never accepted into the Navy!
  2. -3
    4 August 2021 09: 54
    American magazine named the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" the most unlucky ship of the Russian Navy
    Pof what they call him ...
    Boom to see how and what our people will do with him.
    A normal platform for training flight personnel, checking specialized equipment.
    And then ... boom to see.
    1. +2
      4 August 2021 10: 05
      Is everything smooth and smooth with American aircraft carriers?

      2011: The F / A-18C Hornet fighter-bomber exploded and burned on a catapult while attempting to take off from the aircraft carrier John S. Stennis. 10 victims in the official statement, and how many in real life is a question ...

      2015. On board the aircraft carrier "Ronald Reagan" at the entrance to Tokyo Bay, an early warning aircraft caught fire and burned.

      2015. "Theodore Roosevelt" was unable to lead the squadron for circumnavigation due to clogging of the water pumping system.
      1. +2
        4 August 2021 10: 15
        That's it ... they would have counted their own ...
        And then in someone else's eye ...
        1. -1
          4 August 2021 10: 22
          Quote: Mouse
          That's it ... they would have counted their own ...
          And then in someone else's eye ...

          Greetings, Vasily soldier

          Yes, I, too, believed in the uselessness of Kuzi, but when the Anglo-Saxons are so persistently "drowning" for this ... I began to doubt his "uselessness" for Russia.
          1. +3
            4 August 2021 10: 24
            Gennady, ours to you! hi
            Listen to the Anglo-Saxon and do the opposite ... wink
            1. -3
              4 August 2021 10: 45
              Quote: Mouse

              Listen to the Anglo-Saxon and do the opposite ... wink

              I remember discussions about AK Kuzyu. There, the further into the forest, the ...
              In this topic, it is better to listen to specialists in the Navy.
              There is only special naval terminology:
              naval strategic nuclear forces (NSNF) ... water area protection (OVR) ..., Strategic missile submarine cruiser (SSBN) ...
            2. 0
              4 August 2021 12: 49
              Quote: Mouse
              Gennady, ours to you! hi
              Listen to the Anglo-Saxon and do the opposite ... wink

              add! And also Svidoukra, an Israeli and a local fighter with a bright face. hi
        2. -1
          4 August 2021 11: 32
          Rather, in his own.
          For Simes and Nikonov are quite their own.
      2. -1
        4 August 2021 22: 57
        How the Americans did their new aircraft carriers, this is generally an anecdote. Is it interesting to solve the issue of launching new carrier-based aircraft with outboard tanks from new electronic magnetic catapults?
  3. -3
    4 August 2021 10: 06
    "The most unlucky" ... Let them look at their "Bon Homme Richard", and even earlier there was an aircraft carrier "Forrestal".
    1. +4
      4 August 2021 10: 12
      the trouble is not that ours is "unlucky", but that he is the only one, and even that is not capable of fighting at the moment.
    2. 0
      4 August 2021 11: 50
      The fire at Forrestall was during the war, in the midst of aircraft takeoffs and landings.
      For a warship, taking part in hostilities is already an incredible LUCK.
      Most of the ships of the world's navies are born and die like that, never having been in a war.
      1. -3
        4 August 2021 11: 53
        Aha))) Order of McCain with a twist on the back. It was not damage, not an accident, just one dumbhead mushroom in the cockpit.
        1. +3
          4 August 2021 12: 27
          McCain flew stormtroopers. Volunteers were taken there - the most desperate pilots.
          And McCain has a lot of sorties.
          Do not mix up his political career in old age and his military service.
          The Forrestal fire was triggered by a self-firing rocket from the Phantom due to a power surge. McCain did not fly on a Phantom, has nothing to do with the beginning of the fire
          1. -4
            4 August 2021 12: 37

            voyaka uh (Alexey)
            Today, 12: 27
            NEW

            -1
            McCain flew stormtroopers. Volunteers were taken there - the most desperate pilots.
            And McCain has a lot of sorties.

            "America's main Russophobe" ditched 25 US fighters and an aircraft carrier to boot... that it was he who accidentally dropped a military rocket from his plane, which was on the deck, which caused the fire (and the daddy-admiral got him off again). Officially, the reason, however, was declared a "surge in the onboard network", but who knows, who knows ... Most of the witnesses of the fire, and these are 134 crew members, died in it, destroyed 21 combat aircraft, and the aircraft carrier itself was on year out of order! At the same time, McCain himself, who was at the helm, escaped with only minor burns. Well, purely lucky! Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/25874/2838093/
            Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/25874/2838093/
            Well, what do you say again against the facts? complain again to the site administration? laughing
            1. +2
              4 August 2021 15: 38
              Quote: aszzz888

              voyaka uh (Alexey)
              Today, 12: 27
              NEW

              -1
              McCain flew stormtroopers. Volunteers were taken there - the most desperate pilots.
              And McCain has a lot of sorties.

              "America's main Russophobe" ditched 25 US fighters and an aircraft carrier to boot... that it was he who accidentally dropped a military rocket from his plane, which was on the deck, which caused the fire (and the daddy-admiral got him off again). Officially, the reason, however, was declared a "surge in the onboard network", but who knows, who knows ... Most of the witnesses of the fire, and these are 134 crew members, died in it, destroyed 21 combat aircraft, and the aircraft carrier itself was on year out of order! At the same time, McCain himself, who was at the helm, escaped with only minor burns. Well, purely lucky! Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/25874/2838093/
              Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/25874/2838093/
              Well, what do you say again against the facts? complain again to the site administration? laughing


              You have facts from the jaundiced newspaper.
              Only in Russia, jingoistic patriots believe that McCain started a fire.
              Do you know why?
              Just because they really like to substitute ...
              For example, consonant words and even surnames.
              There was such a pilot, Lawrence McKee.
              He flew on a phantom. Second.
              And it was precisely with his phantom at short circuit that NUR fell through.
              And she flies into the Skyhawk of another pilot - John McCain.
              Directly into the tank.
              And it was from here that the fire started.
              McKee and McCain, that's the whole difference.

              This fact has been known for many, many years.
              And he was always described and discussed on a military topic.
              And McCain was never accused.

              The accusations began after pumping in Russian propaganda about how Russophobe McCain was.
              And all that old history, our rabid urya-patriots, turned upside down. Completely distorting.
              So how do you, Russian urya-patriots, differ in your actions from all sorts of Ukrainian, Baltic and other liars, flippers?
              Nothing.
            2. -1
              4 August 2021 16: 13
              "complain again to the site administration?" ///
              ---
              With your incredible (and constant) rudeness, you dishonor this forum, make an international laughing stock out of an interesting site.
              I rarely complain, only when swearing at someone becomes continuous and daily.
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                1. -4
                  5 August 2021 15: 48
                  I read the comments of the Israelis - very interesting thoughts that make you think and rethink something for yourself, a lot of things can be learned for general development and everything culturally without becoming personal. I read their opponents - hurray patriotism from all cracks, the transition to personalities, xenophobia, hatred, calls for violence, etc. etc. You guys look ridiculous!
                  I am glad that there are smart, educated, thinking people who do not spare their time writing posts, sharing their life experience and thoughts about the situation in the country and the world, it turns out even more interesting when they have different points of view on the same issue - that's then a real intellectual battle takes place.
          2. -1
            4 August 2021 21: 34
            - Do not forget that McCain's father and grandfather were admirals ... And this is worth a lot in the armed forces of any country. A guy from a good family could have met ...
  4. -5
    4 August 2021 10: 36
    And we can say that he is lucky. More precisely, lucky in trouble.
    Look - at first he was taken away from under the nose of Ukraine. And there the fate of the rest of the large ships would have awaited him - they would have been sold for metal.
    Then even the accident with the dock was also lucky. But he could have drowned with the dock.
    Again, the fall in the campaign to Syria. He also got off easy - no serious damage (the plane fell overboard without damage on the deck).
    So which side to look at.
  5. +4
    4 August 2021 10: 39
    as a school desk, a textbook for the training of future pilots of naval aviation .. it will still show itself.
    1. 0
      4 August 2021 12: 04
      Quote: Boris Ivanov
      as a school desk, a textbook for the training of future pilots of naval aviation .. it will still show itself.

      Until a new aircraft carrier is built for these pilots, they will have to get ready for retirement.
  6. -1
    4 August 2021 11: 01
    All around treason. Kuzya has nothing to do with
  7. -2
    4 August 2021 11: 14
    Iron kaput, as he heard such a nickname Kuzi)
  8. +6
    4 August 2021 13: 10
    To write off Kuznetsov means to put a bold cross on the carrier-based aircraft.
    So it will be in service until a new one is built.
    1. -1
      4 August 2021 17: 30
      Quote: sanya_sergant
      will be in service until a new one is built

      What for? Why build a new one? For what purpose? Just do not need songs about threats and protection of borders in the oceans, the fight against terrorists on distant approaches, the protection of oppressed peoples, etc., etc. Why these imperial ambitions at the expense of the poverty of the people? The officially recognized 20% of the poor is 28 million, who must be protected in the first place.
      1. -2
        6 August 2021 17: 16
        So our all do not believe that it is pointless to measure pussies with the States.
  9. 0
    4 August 2021 15: 30
    "Riga", "Tbilisi", "Brezhnev", "Kuznetsov" are the great martyrs of perestroika and general chaos in the country. The only trip and billion-dollar repairs. And the admirals are again going to milk the budget for aircraft carriers. Okay, let's tighten our belts, but explain to the taxpayers (we will understand) why under our official defensive doctrine we need aircraft carriers - a weapon of aggression. Officially, according to the doctrine, we should use weapons only in the event of an attack on our territory. The UDC in Kerch was laid to build slowly. And on which shores to land the troops? Who are you going to fight with and why? We forgive debts. Now what are the modern Bolsheviks with "the historical role and mission of the Russian people throughout the world"? Why all these imperial ambitions since the "world revolution and socialist choice"? Who threatens us with war? And even if politicians start a war, then again, in a nuclear missile war, aircraft carriers will only have memories in the first hour.
  10. -1
    4 August 2021 19: 51
    The ship has nothing to do with it, it just fell into the meat grinder of the collapse of the great country of the USSR. A lot was destroyed and Kuzya survived thanks to the courage of the then commanders. The whole country was thrown back for many years because they cut, sawed and tore to shreds by the military-industrial complex, FACTORIES, PLANTS, ENTERPRISES. So Kuza was lucky that he was not cut for scrap in the 90s somewhere in Bangladesh.
  11. -1
    4 August 2021 20: 00
    Lucky, not lucky, but he is. This means that there is also carrier-based aircraft. I hope that after repairs and modernization, our Kuzya will still serve. And the fact that they laugh out loud ... Yes, God is with them, we have something to do with that. It would be good.
  12. -2
    4 August 2021 21: 07
    Quote: Terenin
    God willing

    Well, he may give, but a pragmatic approach ...
  13. -3
    6 August 2021 00: 13
    It is strange that this circus was generally called a ship.
  14. -2
    6 August 2021 20: 40
    All these disputes whether aircraft carriers are needed or not are usually based on the American experience, they say, these aircraft carrier groups cost trillions of dollars there, and we cannot afford it.

    Okay, so why does Italy have an aircraft carrier? From France? England, India, China, Brazil, Thailand, Spain! The Spaniards already have two aircraft carriers, India has two, and China has two.

    And what do you seriously think that all these countries are richer than Russia?
    Please don't talk nonsense.

    We don't have to build Nimitz. An average aircraft carrier of 40 thousand tons for 25 aircraft will be enough. Provided that the main striking force is aircraft.

    An aircraft carrier is just an airfield. But what kind of aircraft he will have is much more important.

    It is necessary to have a modern ship aircraft, a compact and reliable reconnaissance aircraft, and the same tanker. Least.

    What tasks will the aircraft carrier solve?

    Protection of the area of ​​deployment of submarine missile carriers on day x.

    Escorting convoys to the conditional Syria / Libya / Venezuela.

    Power projection on any country that does not possess nuclear weapons.

    This is enough to build literally 3 medium aircraft carriers without trying to create a wunderwaffe. No complex systems and additional weapons. The main thing is the planes.
  15. -2
    6 August 2021 22: 00
    How many times has the term "Nakhimov" been postponed? It will be a shame if they spit and put both of them on the nails.
  16. 0
    9 August 2021 06: 50
    Why is the West crying so much?
    All the money from the modifications goes to Russian workers, engineers and companies.
    And the workers themselves receive invaluable experience!

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