Crimea sues Ukraine for five types of blockades

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After 2014, Kiev announced water, energy, banking, transport and food blockades to the Crimean population. Now Crimea is suing Ukraine for these five types of blockades.

About this agency RIA News said the head of the legislative committee of the State Council of Crimea Sergei Trofimov. He also heads a working group of the peninsula parliament on assessing the consequences of the Ukrainian blockade.



The greatest damage, in the opinion of the Crimeans, was inflicted on them by the water and energy blockade. Preliminary losses from the cessation of water supply are estimated at 1,47 trillion rubles. Therefore, the first to be filed a lawsuit is precisely about these actions of the Kiev authorities. According to Trofimov, his preparation of the water blockade claim is close to completion, and now the exact amount of the loss is being calculated, and with full documentary evidence.

Earlier, the vice-speaker of the Crimean parliament, Yefim Fiks, said that there was an appeal to the ECHR that the cessation of Ukraine's water supply to Crimea should be interpreted as a form of genocide. And at the end of July, the Russian Federation filed the first in stories interstate lawsuit accusing Kiev of grave crimes against humanity committed after 2014.
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  1. +17
    3 August 2021 10: 56
    I wonder who is stopping us from cutting off any energy supplies to Tsegabonia in return? Or are our bourgeois incomes much more important than the interests of the state? Why are we still supplying an outspoken enemy with all sorts of goodies?
    1. +2
      3 August 2021 11: 01
      Trade has always been and will be a feeding trough for intelligence. Of course, it is necessary to limit it, but with water the child can be thrown out.
      1. +4
        3 August 2021 11: 37
        Oh, what kind of intelligence do you need in Tsegabonia - for a couple of bundles of bucks, they will immediately sell you any military secret and tie it with a beautiful bow!
        1. +7
          3 August 2021 11: 50
          Quote: paul3390
          Oh, what kind of intelligence do you need in Tsegabonia - for a couple of bundles of bucks, they will immediately sell you any military secret and tie it with a beautiful bow!

          A very harmful thought. Clinical fools need to be watched especially closely. Intelligence activities and undercover penetration must be increased. And I think the former chairman of the KGB under the USSR Council of Ministers knows this and takes measures in accordance with the possibilities and priorities. All the same, it is very correct that our President is a regular employee of the special services. The next one should be chosen about the same. Certainly not from Mosfilm.
          1. -4
            3 August 2021 11: 54
            And what does the supply of Tsegabonia with strategic resources have to do with it ?? belay
            1. +3
              3 August 2021 12: 01
              Quote: paul3390
              And what does the supply of Tsegabonia with strategic resources have to do with it ??

              And despite the fact that any thread of economic ties is a lever for influencing the receiving party. We will sever all ties - all contacts and opportunities for pressure will be lost.
              1. 0
                3 August 2021 12: 07
                Uh-huh .. To supply an openly hostile state with the resources necessary for the continuation of hostile activities is undoubtedly a very important and necessary type of connecting thread ...
                1. +3
                  3 August 2021 12: 20
                  Quote: paul3390
                  Providing an openly hostile state with the resources necessary for the continuation of hostile activities is undoubtedly a very important and necessary type of connecting thread ...

                  You give the volume of these supplies. Compared to the volumes that were before the ban on the supply of petroleum products, introduced in March 2021. In any case, Ukraine will buy an NP, in the same Slovakia, or by tanker will deliver it from anywhere in the world (though much more expensive). Today we hear about the stop of railway transport in Ukraine due to problems with the supply of diesel fuel. So the volume of trade is gradually decreasing. But to tear everything at once, I think, is unnecessary.
                  1. +3
                    3 August 2021 14: 53
                    Crimea sues Ukraine for five types of blockades

                    Crimea is doing very CORRECTLY!
                    1. +1
                      3 August 2021 15: 54
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Crimea is doing very CORRECTLY!

                      Of course it is correct. And the more specific and evidentiary claims, the better.
                    2. +3
                      4 August 2021 00: 21
                      Here, even the main thing is not the result of compensation, but the hype and correctly placed accents and narratives about the Genocide and ethnocide.
        2. 0
          3 August 2021 12: 44
          And I'm not just talking about them. Although, given the crowd of NATO members there, this is an excellent goal. This is all sorts of subversive activities and control of flows from 404. If you are not aware of the market for amphitamines, consider 70 percent Ukrainian. Etc.
    2. +4
      3 August 2021 11: 01
      Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kuleba threatened Russia with "stones from the sky" because of Crimea. Just like in the Jungle Book, they decided to throw stones at Kipling.
      .MOSCOW, 2 Aug - RIA Novosti. Kiev will wait for the moment to return Crimea, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said, threatening Russia with "stones from the sky."

      https://ria.ru/20210802/kuleba-1744014048.html
    3. +4
      3 August 2021 11: 02
      Crimea sues Ukraine for five types of blockades
      Let her answer herself: Whose Crimea? am
      1. -4
        3 August 2021 11: 10
        Crimea sues Ukraine for five types of blockades

        If you file claims, then to our Russian court, whose decisions may be binding on the State Duma and the Federation Council.

        Make a decision (verdict), and then ...

        Then let these public authorities decide how to force Ukraine to unblock Crimea.
        1. -13
          3 August 2021 11: 22
          Quote: PiK
          force Ukraine to unblock Crimea.

          And what is it blocked by?
          Crimea has no land connection with the mainland?
          Is the exit to the sea blocked?
          Is the natural flow of rivers blocked?
          And Ukraine is not at all obliged to supply the rest.
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            1. -13
              3 August 2021 11: 43
              Let the s.o.s.t. gas from the geyropa, which will go there via SP2.


              The capacity of SP2 will not be enough to cover Europe's gas needs. In any case, a part will have to be driven through Ukraine. Perhaps some European countries will transfer non-Russian origin LNG. Then JV2 will cope.
              1. +5
                3 August 2021 11: 47
                Quote: avib
                The capacity of SP2 will not be enough to cover the needs of Europe

                It is better to find and think about the old than to blurt out here. The total capacity of 2 pipes is 55 billion cubic meters. Geyrope was delivered in 2021 - 51 billion cubic meters. And this is taking into account the many times increased consumption in the gamerope. Will they fill up the storages - will they pump them into their pockets?
                1. -3
                  3 August 2021 11: 53
                  Quote: kot423
                  Quote: avib
                  The capacity of SP2 will not be enough to cover the needs of Europe

                  It is better to find and think about the old than to blurt out here. The total capacity of 2 pipes is 55 billion cubic meters. Geyrope was delivered in 2021 - 51 billion cubic meters. And this is taking into account the many times increased consumption in the gamerope. Will they fill up the storages - will they pump them into their pockets?

                  I mentioned the needs of Europe, but they are not 55 billion and Russia supplies much more than 55 billion.
                  The gas demand for Europe is constantly growing. According to Gazprom's calculations, it will increase by 2025. From the current 400 billion cubic meters. m. for 145 billion cubic meters. m, and by 2035 - by 185 billion. Production in Europe itself, in particular in Norway, will not be able to cover demand. And the supply of LNG from the United States is not profitable for the Americans themselves due to low prices.

                  Russian gas, for all its political undesirability, is able to overcome this deficit. SP-2 (for 55 billion cubic meters), together with the southern gas pipelines can give an additional 180 billion cubic meters. m.
              2. +7
                3 August 2021 11: 49
                Quote: avib
                Perhaps some European countries will transfer non-Russian origin LNG.

                Is it about the same as the Balts buy "non-Russian" LNG from the Americans? Who, in turn, buy it in Russia? wink But, after being pumped onto an American ship, it magically becomes both "democratic" and "non-Russian."
              3. +1
                3 August 2021 11: 57
                Can you count? Both JVs + Turkish Stream + Yamal-Europe completely cover the needs .. And through you they will let the minimum on which they can make special money, and even more so - steal out of habit, they certainly will not fail .. By the way - if you don’t know, Russia’s LNG too supplies. So good luck.
            2. -2
              3 August 2021 12: 11
              Quote: kot423
              Quote: atalef
              And the rest of Ukraine is absolutely not obliged to supply

              Similarly, Russia. Let the s.s.s.t. gas from the geyropa, which will go there via SP2.

              I absolutely agree - it is the sovereign right of the state to decide who and what to give
              1. 0
                3 August 2021 15: 39
                Quote: atalef
                the sovereign right of the state to decide who and what to give

                Keyword - sovereign... The question is, where did you see the sovereignty of Ukraine? It seems that some post-Soviet type of "state" think that they will exist forever. Throughout the history of mankind, some states and countries, then arose, others, on the contrary, disappeared. Borders were constantly changing, wars, revolutions (and then wars), devastation, creation (not about Ukraine), and these people think that once their happiness has broken off, in the form of "their" states, then this is forever and you can do whatever you want. Naive, for their deeds and actions, you always have to answer. Sooner or later. Such as ukraine, georgia, or the baltics will answer early. Such as the States and their closest allies, later, but will respond. At least before history.
                1. -6
                  3 August 2021 16: 10
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  The question is, where did you see the sovereignty of Ukraine?

                  Exactly in the same place where Russia has - Ukraine is a state recognized by the world community, borders - Russia including
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  Throughout the history of mankind, some states and countries, then arose, others, on the contrary, disappeared

                  Exactly, the USSR is an example and no one knows whether this cup will be in the future.
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  Naive, for their deeds and actions, you always have to answer. Sooner or later.

                  I do not understand one thing, for some reason you exclude Russia from all these formulas, are you sure of your infallibility?
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  Such as ukraine, georgia, or the baltics will answer early. Such as the States and their closest allies, later, but will respond. At least before history.

                  All the same they write about you - and who knows who is right here?
                  Not you, not me, nobody.
                  Therefore, do not judge - so you will not be judged.
                  1. +1
                    3 August 2021 19: 00
                    Quote: atalef
                    Ukraine is a state recognized by the world community, borders - by Russia, including

                    Do not confuse Ukraine with the 1996 constitution and the current one. Then Russia recognized, but after the coup, it may sharply refuse to admit that, in part, it happened. The "Western partners" use a special term, "loss of legitimacy". So if someone is recognized today, they can be sent tomorrow. In addition, you need to be able to defend your sovereignty and your right to exist. If you do not know how, then at least choose adequate friends for yourself. With all this, Ukraine has big problems. And jumping on the Maidans, unleashing civil wars and throwing mud at neighbors (who, by the way, have been spoon-feeding Ukraine all these years) end very badly. So the Ukrainians have no one to blame but themselves.
                    1. -5
                      3 August 2021 19: 21
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      Do not confuse Ukraine with the 1996 constitution, and the current

                      nor can you judge the constitution of another country - approved by the citizens of that country.
                      Moreover, I think the differences with the Russian one are minuscule or not at all. Or can you provide facts?
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      Then Russia recognized, but after the coup, it may sharply and not recognize

                      can Masha for Lyashka.
                      Don't say maybe - maybe not.
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      The "Western partners" use a special term, "loss of legitimacy".

                      of course - a normal term, and the fact that you pronounced it in Russian means that in Russian it is the same, at least in everyday life.

                      Quote: orionvitt
                      In addition, you need to be able to defend your sovereignty and your right to exist.

                      what in general the Ukrainian army is doing in Donbass
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      With all this, Ukraine has big problems.

                      no problem . the fact of that. that Smelkov did not make his way further and the LDNR are sitting quietly and only crying that they are being beaten - as proof
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      If you do not know how, then at least choose adequate friends for yourself.

                      Well, what a friend Russia she perfectly showed - only her younger brother started a mess in the country - she immediately squeezed Crimea and made a mess called the LPNR.
                      It's problematic to have you as a friend - well, you can see that. in general, all the former republics of the USSR fled from you, and Belarus does not have much left. The old man will leave all the same, and the henchmen will not be tolerated there.
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      And jumping on the Maidans,

                      this does not concern you - figure it out for yourself
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      unleash civil wars

                      Well, the war was not unleashed by the Ukrainians-that is unambiguous. If it weren't for Smelkov and Co., everything would be quiet in Donbass, like in the rest of Ukraine
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      So the Ukrainians have no one to blame but themselves.

                      Are you not in business at all?
                      1. +1
                        4 August 2021 15: 58
                        Wow, wow. laughing Arguing with a person who was initially inclined to be Russophobic is useless. Your so "facts" are not worth a damn. I read your "conclusions", sort of like watching Ukrainian TV channels. Zero logic, some offenders. As for the "crying LDNR", I'm sorry, it's not them in 2015, they crawled on their knees to Minsk, agreeing to all the conditions that Poroshenko signed (and did not fulfill a single day). Someone in Donbass was hard-pressed then, and guess who it was three times over. lol .
          2. -2
            3 August 2021 11: 35
            And Ukraine is not at all obliged to supply the rest.

            So I say - let’s finally cut off all supplies to Tsegabonia in response - where does it say that we are obliged to supply it with electricity, fuels and lubricants, gas, etc.?
          3. +4
            3 August 2021 12: 07

            atalef (alexander)
            Today, 11: 22
            NEW

            -9
            Quote: PiK
            force Ukraine to unblock Crimea.

            And what is it blocked by?
            Crimea has no land connection with the mainland?
            Is the exit to the sea blocked?
            Is the natural flow of rivers blocked?
            And Ukraine is not at all obliged to supply the rest.
            You read the article, or just pouring slop! angry
          4. +2
            3 August 2021 12: 25
            Obliged if it considers Crimea to be Ukrainian.
            But for the attempt of genocide of the civilian population, even of the warring side, the leadership allowed this option and all those involved in it are hanged.
          5. +1
            4 August 2021 00: 26
            And here to supply, they offered to buy a resource for money as targeted people, and even everything went to that, but the vuiks pretend to be Europeans, but in fact you yourself killed your guys from the National Guard in 2015 in order to continue the genocide of the Crimeans and Donbass
          6. 0
            4 August 2021 16: 07
            Quote: atalef
            And Ukraine is not at all obliged to supply the rest.

            But the court will decide this! If the first instance is Russian court, then with its decision it will be possible to apply to the ECHR. If it is the ECHR at once, it will become clear what kind of court it is: real or pocket Russophobic. And according to the result, it will be possible to make a decision, to act. And SP-2 will already be completed ... lol
          7. -1
            4 August 2021 21: 00
            An officer's daughter? ...
    4. +4
      3 August 2021 12: 49
      Quote: paul3390
      I wonder who is stopping us from cutting off any energy supplies to Tsegabonia in return? Or are our bourgeois incomes much more important than the interests of the state? Why are we still supplying an outspoken enemy with all sorts of goodies?

      Everything is very simple, Russia fulfills all contractual obligations for the supply of any resources (energy, gas, oil) and if we chop off at least one, thereby we will become an unreliable supplier, and any countries will bear this in mind and, accordingly, will gradually leave in the future. from us and will look for other suppliers of all resources that we supply because we will appear as an unreliable supplier and we will eventually lose everything in the future, but you probably do not understand this. And when you write: "Or are incomes much more important to our bourgeoisie than the interests of the state?" If we cut off the energy supplies of Tsegabonia, then we can lose much more at more than several times, and this is beneficial to our state, and not bourgeois. I will repeat again, apparently you will not understand this.
      People who also consider paul3390, I do not understand you, you at least sometimes turn on your head.
    5. 0
      3 August 2021 15: 16
      Why are we still supplying an outspoken enemy with all sorts of goodies?
      "nothing personal. Just business" and about "we" .. well, they don't ask us. From our taxes and trade in all kinds.
    6. 0
      3 August 2021 19: 01
      Maybe cegabonia just cannot be ruled out? Built in a single country. And such a scale of shutdown is simply not provided. Not?
  2. -1
    3 August 2021 10: 56
    Well, why ?!
    Out of sight, out of mind
    1. +5
      3 August 2021 11: 04
      To discredit the ECHR in the eyes of the world community.
      Let them give a legal assessment. Any answer will be accepted. Zugzwang.
      1. +2
        3 August 2021 11: 05
        Quote: Tank jacket
        To discredit the ECHR in the eyes of the world community.

        do you really think that they can be discredited? !!!
        rather we will look stupid
        1. 0
          3 August 2021 11: 07
          Colt is ..., there is a good word.
          "With a kind word and a revolver, you can achieve more than just a kind word."
          How do you like the "Eurasian Court of Human Rights" in Moscow? (purely theoretically).
          1. +5
            3 August 2021 11: 13
            Quote: Tank jacket
            How do you like the "Eurasian Court of Human Rights" in Moscow? (purely theoretically).

            but not how
            Hayo Zeppelt has already been recognized as a slanderer in a Moscow court, so what ?!
            he sent everyone and shits on
            1. +2
              3 August 2021 11: 33
              But William Browdur and Hermitage Capital were lowered in Switzerland ...
              Magnet's Law is now trash ...
              1. 0
                3 August 2021 11: 42
                for what for?
                1. -1
                  3 August 2021 12: 11
                  There has been a tendency for the results of trials in Europe to be positive for the Russian Federation, and this is no coincidence ... We must seize the moment.
        2. -6
          3 August 2021 11: 19
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: Tank jacket
          To discredit the ECHR in the eyes of the world community.

          do you really think that they can be discredited? !!!
          rather we will look stupid

          You will definitely look stupid.
          1. +2
            3 August 2021 11: 22
            Well, the Holocaust was recognized as genocide of Jews, now it's our turn ...
            Or current can you?
            Or is it another?
            By the way + to you for maintaining the discussion ...
            1. 0
              3 August 2021 11: 33
              Well, the Holocaust was recognized as genocide of Jews, now it's our turn ...

              Uh-uh, no! There can be only one eternally suffering persecuted people to whom everyone on the planet must for life. And this place is already taken ..
              1. -10
                3 August 2021 11: 48
                Quote: paul3390
                Well, the Holocaust was recognized as genocide of Jews, now it's our turn ...

                Uh-uh, no! There can be only one eternally suffering persecuted people to whom everyone on the planet must for life. And this place is already taken ..

                Are you ready to trade with us?
                If you want the Inquisition, pogroms, gas chambers for yourself - no problem, take it!
                And also the Roman genocide after the Bar Kokhba uprising of 131-136 and the expulsion from his country - a bonus.
                1. +6
                  3 August 2021 11: 51
                  And it never occurred to you that if you are persecuted and disliked in all countries and at all times, to put it mildly, this is also your fault, isn't it?

                  And about the place - no need to measure up with suffering, Russia has sipped shit in its lifetime - more than yours! And nothing - she is not yelling that everyone around her must for life ..
                  1. -9
                    3 August 2021 12: 33
                    There is no fault of the Jews. They were disliked for being successful merchants and bankers.
                    1. +1
                      3 August 2021 12: 40
                      Let's say the Greeks and Italians were no less successful merchants and bankers. However - no one seems to have any special complaints about them?
                    2. +1
                      3 August 2021 13: 24
                      Quote: Kronos
                      They were disliked for being successful merchants and bankers.

                      more precisely, usurers and poked their nose where they did not need
                      1. -2
                        3 August 2021 19: 30
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        more precisely by usurers

                        Well, in general, all those who give money at interest are usurers.
                        from the savings banks of the USSR to all other banks in the world.
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        poke your nose where you didn't need to

                        as a rule, the books of the shopping mall were overwhelmingly literate.
                  2. -1
                    3 August 2021 19: 27
                    Quote: paul3390
                    And it never occurred to you that if you are persecuted and disliked in all countries and at all times, to put it mildly, this is also your fault, isn't it?

                    do not attribute your thoughts to the whole world
                    Quote: paul3390
                    And about the place - no need to measure up with suffering, Russia has sipped shit in its lifetime - more than yours!

                    so do they hate you?
                    Maybe they are to blame?
                    Quote: paul3390
                    And nothing - she is not yelling that everyone around her must for life.

                    oh well, we just do not shout, but you should read your comments laughing
                2. +2
                  3 August 2021 13: 23
                  Quote: avib
                  If you want the Inquisition, pogroms, gas chambers for yourself - no problem, take it!

                  the inquisition to you from any side, excuse me
                  and all the rest of the Russians drank more than yours
                  Quote: avib
                  And also the Roman genocide after the Bar Kokhba uprising of 131-136 and the expulsion from his country - a bonus.

                  will you still remember the tyrannosaurs' oppression of the rest of the saurus
                  1. -3
                    3 August 2021 15: 31
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Quote: avib
                    If you want the Inquisition, pogroms, gas chambers for yourself - no problem, take it!

                    the inquisition to you from any side, excuse me
                    and all the rest of the Russians drank more than yours
                    Quote: avib
                    And also the Roman genocide after the Bar Kokhba uprising of 131-136 and the expulsion from his country - a bonus.

                    will you still remember the tyrannosaurs' oppression of the rest of the saurus

                    The Inquisition ended in 1492 for the Jews by exile from Spain. The expulsion was preceded by the burning of Jews at the stake and other delights of the attitude of Christians to the Gentiles.

                    In principle, the problem of the Jews, of course, was that the people were expelled by the Romans from their country and scattered around the world. If there was a country of its own, there would be a people as a people.
                    Although it seems that now there is a country of its own - but all the same, everyone cares about the Jews and in everything again (probably out of habit) they are to blame.

                    How are you with the water? There is? And hot?, But it seems like now all over the Russian Federation, the hot is turned off for 2 weeks - prevention. The Jews must have come up with it.
                    1. +2
                      3 August 2021 15: 57
                      Quote: avib
                      Inquisition ended in 1492 for Jews by expulsion from Spain

                      lying
                      The edict applied to all followers of Judaism, regardless of ethnicity
                      Quote: avib
                      Although it seems that now there is a country of its own - but all the same, everyone cares about the Jews and in everything again (probably out of habit) they are to blame.

                      exactly the opposite, Jews need to get into every hole
                      Quote: avib
                      How are you with the water? There is? And hot?, But it seems like now all over the Russian Federation, the hot is turned off for 2 weeks - prevention. The Jews must have come up with it.

                      intelligence at the level of the plinth, by the way I have water
                      1. -4
                        3 August 2021 15: 59
                        When there is nothing to argue in essence - they go to the individual. This was expected.

                        lying
                        The edict applied to all followers of Judaism, regardless of ethnicity


                        It's just a gem. Like you can be a Jew and not a Jew?
                      2. 0
                        3 August 2021 19: 15
                        Quote: avib
                        ... Like you can be a Jew and not a Jew?

                        type you can
                      3. 0
                        3 August 2021 19: 23
                        Can. Read the story. And vice versa, the word "cross" is familiar to you, I hope.
                      4. -4
                        3 August 2021 19: 47
                        The cross is not a Jew. Only in Russian is there a Jew and a Jew. There is only one word in Hebrew. It is possible not to be a Jew by birth, but by adopting Judaism to become a Jew. A Jew, having converted to another faith, ceases to be a Jew.
                        .
                        I hope you will not teach me, a Jew, who is a Jew and who is not.
                      5. 0
                        3 August 2021 20: 01
                        Hope dies last...
                        .
                        The Khazar Kaganate is an early medieval state in the North Caucasus and adjacent areas with a Turkic population, converted to Judaism in the last period of its existence.

                        The descendants of the Khazars are: Karachais
                      6. -1
                        3 August 2021 20: 02
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        Hope dies last...
                        The Khazar Kaganate is an early medieval state in the North Caucasus and adjacent areas with a Turkic population, converted to Judaism in the last period of its existence.

                        The descendants of the Khazars are: Karachais

                        request
                        What did you want to say?
                      7. +2
                        3 August 2021 20: 44


                        Meanwhile, Gusinsky's kept woman - strictly according to Freud's grandfather - shares her experience in licking other people's laces and unconsciously projects her own skills in the skill of changing shoes in the air on those to whom she feels such dislike that she can’t eat ...
                      8. +1
                        4 August 2021 16: 05
                        Quote: avib
                        The cross is not a Jew. Only in Russian is there a Jew and a Jew. There is only one word in Hebrew. It is possible not to be a Jew by birth, but by adopting Judaism to become a Jew. A Jew, having converted to another faith, ceases to be a Jew.
                        .
                        I hope you will not teach me, a Jew, who is a Jew and who is not

                        Something you as a Jew express your thoughts very "curly". Questions remain. Namely.
                        1. And how, then, Jewishness and Zionism are considered by your mother?
                        2. Or, after all, Jewishness is just a POLITICAL party with the racist ideology of Judaism? In which ethnic Jews are more equal than all other peoples.

                        Then, in your opinion, a Jew, Jewry and Zionism are still who and what?
                      9. -1
                        4 August 2021 18: 05
                        Garbage in - garbage out. It is impossible to give smart answers to such "not quite smart" questions. Sorry.
                      10. +1
                        4 August 2021 18: 29
                        Quote: avib
                        Garbage in - garbage out. It is impossible to give smart answers to such "not quite smart" questions. Sorry.

                        May you evade the answer!
                        Questions are asked vital and essentially historically globalist political situation!

                        But you don't have to answer! Everything is clear to me and so with you.
                        I just gave you, as a Jew, a chance to reveal yourself and look in my eyes somehow differently than you, apparently from Israel, propagandize about Jews in general.
              2. +1
                3 August 2021 12: 32
                And this place has already been taken, for 140 years without a break, evil Muscovites offend 000, and the khokhly defend the universe from them. And the Jews just after VM404 wedged in with claims.

                And what is it, h about hl and auto-corrects, but there is no Moskal? BUT? Are the enemies of Russia entrenched?
              3. 0
                3 August 2021 19: 18
                Well, first of all, not one, the globalists have at least two alternative options - the Armenians and Scientologists. The treasurers in the Ottoman Empire were exclusively Armenians. Scientologists are prepared to replace the Jews after Israel's surrender to the Arabs. Nothing personal, just business ...
              4. 0
                3 August 2021 19: 25
                Quote: paul3390
                Ever-suffering persecuted people,

                You would suffer so much laughing
                Quote: paul3390
                to whom everyone on the planet must for life - there can be only one.

                Are you in this number or, as always, on the sidelines 7 Well, I just would like to know. it may turn out to collect debts
                Quote: paul3390
                And this place is already taken.

                I do not wish death to envious people - let them live and suffer.
            2. -6
              3 August 2021 12: 17
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Well, the Holocaust was recognized as genocide of Jews, now it's our turn ...
              Or current can you?
              Or is it another?
              By the way + to you for maintaining the discussion ...

              As there in the famous film, Uncle Fedya, you are a stupid person
          2. +2
            3 August 2021 11: 42
            that's for sure we'll figure it out without you
      2. +1
        3 August 2021 11: 14
        I agree, we will look stupid. Throwing beads in front of pigs, but what about the fig? There are just a lot of officials in Russia, so they found something to do - to write letters. It seems that they are busy with business for the benefit of the state.
      3. -14
        3 August 2021 11: 18
        Quote: Tank jacket
        To discredit the ECHR in the eyes of the world community.
        Let them give a legal assessment. Any answer will be accepted. Zugzwang.

        It's a strange question, the two countries are in a state of armed conflict - what more do you want?
        Further, what kind of blockade can we talk about - if the Crimea is the territory of Russia and has all kinds of communication with it, including land.
        And finally, it seems that in this case Russia, and not the subject of the federation, should file a lawsuit.
        Moreover, it is not recognized by anyone from the international community.
        Crimea can sue (international) for the blockade, but only as part of Ukraine - but this is nonsense.
        Sitting on two chairs will definitely not work.
        1. +7
          3 August 2021 11: 23
          Quote: atalef
          Strange question, the two countries are in a state of armed conflict

          Ah ... and this what ... Where, in what UN documents it is determined and recorded that we and Ukraine are in a state of conflict, especially an armed one?

          Where? request

          You write this way because you are an artist, and you see it that way?
          1. -10
            3 August 2021 11: 33
            Quote: PiK
            And ... and this is ... Where, in what UN documents it is determined and recorded that we and Ukraine are in a state of conflict

            Since when should this be recorded in the UN?
            Actually, it is enough that one of the parties thinks so.
            Quote: PiK
            You write this way because you are an artist, and you see it that way?

            No, because they think so in Ukraine and their opinion is quite enough for the court.
            1. +5
              3 August 2021 11: 43
              Quote: atalef
              Since when should this be recorded in the UN?

              So you do not know anything about the functions and responsibilities of the UN, in general, about what is called "International Law", or do you simply ignore them?

              Quote: atalef
              No, because they think so in Ukraine and their opinion enough for the court


              In Palestine, they believe that you are carrying out ethnocide and are pursuing an aggressive policy against them, including by implementing a blockade.

              This, too, can be considered a sufficient basis for the court, or we will refer to the fact that it is only - "their opinion" ?
              1. -1
                3 August 2021 12: 19
                Quote: PiK

                So you do not know anything about the functions and responsibilities of the UN, in general, about what is called "International Law", or do you simply ignore them?

                Well, by the decision of the UN General Assembly, Crimea is part of Ukraine and Russia is occupying this part, so that they know this, you ignore this decision of the General Assembly
                1. +3
                  3 August 2021 14: 06
                  Quote: atalef
                  Well, according to the decision of the UN General Assembly, Crimea is part of Ukraine

                  By the decision of the same UN, the Golan is part of Syria and Jerusalem is not the capital. Or is it different?
                  1. -2
                    3 August 2021 18: 40
                    Quote: sheet
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, according to the decision of the UN General Assembly, Crimea is part of Ukraine

                    By the decision of the same UN, the Golan is part of Syria and Jerusalem is not the capital. Or is it different?

                    It is you who are appealing to the UN (not me, mind you) - but after you poke your nose that you seem to be far from all clean - immediately move the arrows.
                    1. +2
                      3 August 2021 19: 22
                      [quote = atalef] This is where you are appealing to the UN (I don’t mind you) - but after you poke your nose that you seem to be far from everything clean - immediately translate the article [/ quote
                      My dear man, in general, it was you who started poking your nose (Crimea) at the UN (I understand that in the heat of the moment), I answered you in your own way.
              2. -4
                3 August 2021 12: 20
                Quote: PiK
                Quote: atalef
                Since when should this be recorded in the UN?

                So you do not know anything about the functions and responsibilities of the UN, in general, about what is called "International Law", or do you simply ignore them?

                Quote: atalef
                No, because they think so in Ukraine and their opinion enough for the court


                In Palestine, they believe that you are carrying out ethnocide and are pursuing an aggressive policy against them, including by implementing a blockade.

                This, too, can be considered a sufficient basis for the court, or we will refer to the fact that it is only - "their opinion" ?

                You know that Palestine is not a state, nevertheless it did not prevent you from going to court, and if the court accepts this claim, they will prove theirs, of course, we'll see what happens
                1. +1
                  4 August 2021 07: 41
                  Quote: atalef

                  Do you know that Palestine is not a state


                  No, I do not know.

                  I only know that the United States and a number of mattress covers are blocking the procedure for the recognition of Palestine as a permanent and plenipotentiary member of the UN.

                  And the question is, do the 138 UN member states that have recognized Palestine know that you do not consider it a state, occupying part of its territory and cynically calling Jerusalem your capital?

                  The State of Palestine (Arabic: دولة فلسطين, English State of Palestine) is a de jure independent partially recognized state in the Middle East that is in the process of being created. The independence of the State of Palestine as of the end of July 2019 was recognized by 138 out of 193 UN member states.
                  1. -1
                    4 August 2021 14: 39
                    Quote: PiK
                    No, I do not know.

                    now you know
                    Quote: PiK
                    I only know that the United States and a number of mattress covers are blocking the procedure for the recognition of Palestine as a permanent and plenipotentiary member of the UN.

                    alas. and without it you can’t.
                    laughing
                    Quote: PiK
                    And the question is, do the 138 UN member states that have recognized Palestine know that you do not consider it a state?

                    know of course.
                    And strange as it may seem, it won't help them - Palestine is not a state.
                    Quote: PiK
                    occupying part of its territory and cynically calling Jerusalem its capital?

                    no cynicism. Jerusalem is our capital - like it or not
                    Quote: PiK
                    State of Palestine (Arabic: دولة فلسطين, English State of Palestine) - de jure independent partially recognized a state in the Middle East in the process of being created. The independence of the State of Palestine as of the end of July 2019 was recognized by 138 of 193 member states of the United Nations.

                    And?
                    Well, 2 \ 3 recognized, a third - no?
                    We care so much about it. How do you think about Crimea and how many states have recognized it as Russian?

                    Countries that officially recognized Crimea as Russian
                    Syria
                    Afghanistan
                    Cuba
                    Venezuela
                    North Korea
                    Sudan

                    and that's it?
                    Well, how do you live with it?
                    1. +2
                      4 August 2021 14: 41
                      Quote: atalef
                      and that's it?
                      Well, how do you live with it?


                      US ? Wonderful Yes
                      We are great country , not a mattress satellite ...
            2. +6
              3 August 2021 11: 50
              Quote: atalef
              Actually, it is enough that one of the parties thinks so.

              then belligerently some kind of sur if the Russian Federation in a state of military conflict as a Sumeria can demand the continuation of the transit of a country that is at war with it through its territory? !!!!!
              in theory, all citizens should be either arrested or extradited, borders closed, etc. and so on
              Quote: atalef
              No, because they think so in Ukraine and their opinion is quite enough for the court.

              and if I think otherwise, my opinion is enough for the court or facts are still needed? !!
              1. -3
                3 August 2021 14: 05
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                if I think otherwise, my opinion is enough for the court or facts are still needed? !!

                Actually, for this, the court exists - one thinks so, the second in another way - the court will judge
                1. +1
                  3 August 2021 19: 57
                  Quote: atalef
                  the court will judge

                  the court will consider (in any case should) not who thinks what, but who will provide what facts
                  1. -2
                    4 August 2021 05: 50
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Quote: atalef
                    the court will judge

                    the court will consider (in any case should) not who thinks what, but who will provide what facts

                    Well, Ukraine has facts above the roof - I mean about the Russian military presence on the territory of Donbas. and there is nothing even to say about the armed seizure of Crimea.
                    1. +2
                      4 August 2021 09: 11
                      Quote: atalef
                      Well, Ukraine has facts above the roof - I mean about the Russian military presence on the territory of Donbas

                      seen-seen

                      somewhere I saw such a bone
              2. -4
                3 August 2021 19: 37
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                then belligerently some kind of sur if the Russian Federation in a state of military conflict as a Sumeria can demand the continuation of the transit of a country that is at war with it through its territory? !!!!

                just like the Russian Federation, which is in Syria to protect Assad, allows Israel to bomb Assad without hindrance. Much has changed in this world - wars are not the same wars, they are hybrid - without fronts, without flanks, not declared and, most importantly, with kilotons of lies and demagoguery
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                in theory, all citizens should be either arrested or extradited, borders closed, etc. and so on

                in theory ? Whose idea?
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                if I think otherwise, my opinion is enough for the court or facts are still needed? !!

                file a lawsuit and your opinion will be heard. Observing procedural subtleties, of course.
                1. +2
                  3 August 2021 19: 57
                  Quote: atalef
                  just like the Russian Federation, which is in Syria to protect Assad, allows Israel to bomb Assad without hindrance.

                  you should first study the topic
                  Quote: atalef
                  in theory ? Whose idea?

                  what your compatriots tire of is verbiage
                  Quote: atalef
                  file a lawsuit and your opinion will be heard. Observing procedural subtleties, of course.

                  I wrote on the floor above
                  1. -4
                    3 August 2021 19: 58
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    you should first study the topic

                    Why should I study it? The last time I visited the Golan Heights was ... today laughing
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    what your compatriots tire of is verbiage

                    and on the subject have something to say?
                    1. +2
                      3 August 2021 21: 30
                      Quote: atalef
                      The last time I visited the Golan Heights was ... today

                      what?
                      and I was in the forest today
                      and how does all this relate to the treaty on the deployment of Russian military forces?
                      The Russian Federation introduced its troops for specific tasks and I do not understand why your screams, do you really want to clash with the Russians ?!
                      1. -4
                        3 August 2021 21: 33
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        The Russian Federation introduced its troops for specific tasks and I do not understand why your screams, do you really want to clash with the Russians ?!

                        Why should I fight?
                        just a conversation about the fact that in the modern world and not everything is clear.
                        and the enemy of a friend is absolutely not obliged to be an enemy, like the Assad, realizing that Russia does not oppose Israel to bomb it - he sits and sniffs in both holes.
                      2. +2
                        3 August 2021 22: 24
                        you so dashingly screwed off the topic, once again for what purpose did the Russian Federation enter Syria ?!
                      3. -3
                        4 August 2021 05: 47
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        you so dashingly screwed off the topic, once again for what purpose did the Russian Federation enter Syria ?!

                        Put the base.
                        No brainer.
                      4. +2
                        4 August 2021 09: 13
                        into the garden, tired
                        and yes, never yell about the Holocaust again
                      5. -3
                        4 August 2021 14: 32
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        into the garden, tired
                        and yes, never yell about the Holocaust again

                        in general, you and your ilk are yelling about the Holocaust.
                        We have a good life, we go forward, and do not rest on old stories.
                    2. +2
                      3 August 2021 21: 31
                      Quote: atalef
                      and on the subject have something to say?

                      there is when you say something on the topic, above you stumbled into your not knowledge of the topic
            3. +4
              3 August 2021 12: 15

              atalef (alexander)
              Today, 11: 33
              NEW

              -6
              Quote: PiK
              And ... and this is ... Where, in what UN documents it is determined and recorded that we and Ukraine are in a state of conflict

              Since when should this be recorded in the UN?
              Actually, it is enough that one of the parties thinks so.
              You deal with your Jewry there. lawyer)), you are our wassat fool lol laughing
              1. -4
                3 August 2021 14: 06
                Quote: aszzz888
                You deal with your Jewry there. lawyer)), you are our

                Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go
                1. +2
                  4 August 2021 06: 55

                  atalef (alexander)
                  Yesterday, 14: 06
                  NEW

                  -2
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  You deal with your Jewry there. lawyer)), you are our

                  Don't tell me what to do
                  Rating -213 847 !!! Oh yeah! wassat laughing tongue
                  1. -4
                    4 August 2021 06: 56
                    Quote: aszzz888
                    Rating -213 847 !!! Oh yeah!

                    that's so do not care fellow
                    you probably put your marshal's shoulder straps under your pillow and purr in your sleep with happiness laughing
                    1. +2
                      4 August 2021 06: 59

                      atalef (alexander)
                      Today, 06: 56

                      -1
                      Quote: aszzz888
                      Rating -213 847 !!! Oh yeah!

                      that's so do not care fellow
                      Rating -214 327 laughing tongue wassat
        2. +5
          3 August 2021 11: 31
          Quote: atalef
          the two countries are in a state of armed conflict - what more do you want?
          Further, what kind of blockade can we talk about - if the Crimea is the territory of Russia and has all kinds of communication with it, including land.
          And finally, it seems that in this case Russia, and not the subject of the federation, should file a lawsuit.
          Moreover, it is not recognized by anyone from the international community.

          Where, besides Ukraine, is it recorded that Ukraine and Russia are in a state of armed conflict?
          Why can't a constituent entity of the Russian Federation file a claim with the ECHR? Where is it indicated?
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          2. +3
            3 August 2021 11: 58
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Where, besides Ukraine, is it recorded that Ukraine and Russia are in a state of armed conflict?

            Even the leadership of "Sumeria" is constantly trying to say that Russia is only PREPARING to unleash an armed conflict and start an invasion. But this chubby lad apparently lives in a remote farm near Zhmerinka and does not know about it.
          3. -4
            3 August 2021 14: 09
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            .

            Where, besides Ukraine, it is recorded that Ukraine and Russia are in a state

            What do you mean by the word - fixed?
            In Europe, they think so, in the states in Ukraine, but in general, the opinion of Ukraine is enough
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Why can't a constituent entity of the Russian Federation file a claim with the ECHR? Where is it indicated?

            Well, it seems like a state lawsuit - tomorrow the village of Gadyukino will try to file a lawsuit against Luxembourg?
        3. +4
          3 August 2021 11: 37
          Quote: atalef
          the two countries are in a state of armed conflict

          Which countries and which armed conflict? More?
          1. +2
            3 August 2021 11: 50
            Quote: Piramidon
            Which countries and which armed conflict? More?

            What details ? request The bats "swim" in these matters.
            But the stuffing does point-and-deliberate.
          2. -6
            3 August 2021 14: 14
            Quote: Piramidon

            Which countries and which armed conflict? More?

            So they think in Ukraine, your opinion does not matter here.
            Everyone in court (if it comes to it) will defend his opinion - of course, with the facts.

            SOCIETY 17.06.2021/00/51 XNUMX:XNUMX
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            President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy considers it necessary to end the military conflict with Russia, from which generations of people in both countries are suffering
            1. +3
              3 August 2021 15: 39
              Quote: atalef
              So they think in Ukraine, your opinion does not matter here

              Wake up. Even your, not brilliantly intelligent, authorities have been trying all recently that Russia is PREPARING aggression and is about to unleash a war.
              1. -5
                3 August 2021 16: 13
                Quote: Piramidon
                Even your, not brilliantly intelligent, authorities have been trying all recently that Russia is PREPARING aggression and is about to unleash a war.

                Are mine in last?
                You didn’t beguiled?
                By the way, about the editing about the attack - yours, like the same, are not lagging behind, but at the daddy they will attack tomorrow.
        4. +6
          3 August 2021 11: 40
          two countries are in a state of armed conflict - what more do you want

          If Russia was with you in a state of armed conflict, there would be no Ukraine anymore, but, say, the Southwestern Federal District of the Russian Federation ..
          1. -7
            3 August 2021 14: 15
            Quote: paul3390
            two countries are in a state of armed conflict - what more do you want

            If Russia was with you in a state of armed conflict, there would be no Ukraine anymore, but, say, the Southwestern Federal District of the Russian Federation ..

            Come on.
            Russia would like it to be so - but alas, it could not.
            Smelkov was unable to light the southeast.
            1. +2
              3 August 2021 14: 21
              Don't make people laugh. How long would Tsegabonia resist against Russia - a week? One and a half? Fighting with Russia is not for you to put on bare-assed barmaley ..
              1. -3
                3 August 2021 16: 17
                Quote: paul3390
                Would Russia have resisted - a week? One and a half? Fighting with Russia is not for you to put on bare-assed barmaley ..

                To conquer and retain are things that are often incompatible.
                I'm not talking about all the other consequences, so it's good to flap your wings here - a warrior.
        5. +2
          3 August 2021 11: 46
          Quote: atalef
          It's a strange question, the two countries are in a state of armed conflict - what more do you want?

          where is the armed conflict ?!
          1. +3
            3 August 2021 11: 52
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

            where is the armed conflict ?!


            This he is about his, sick. About Palestine Yes
        6. +3
          3 August 2021 11: 54
          There is no "armed conflict" between the Russian Federation and Ukraine. On the contrary, Ukraine is demanding an ultimatum to increase the pumping of Russian gas through the territory of Ukraine. Another thing is that the Ukrainian zomboyaschik convinces ukrograzhdans that they allegedly have a "war" going on. But these are the problems of the citizens themselves.
        7. +2
          3 August 2021 12: 12

          atalef (alexander)
          Today, 11: 18
          NEW

          -6
          Quote: Tank jacket
          To discredit the ECHR in the eyes of the world community.
          Let them give a legal assessment. Any answer will be accepted. Zugzwang.

          Strange question, the two countries are in a state of armed conflict
          these are your personal couch wishes fool fool fool
          fool fool fool - this is the maximum for your provocations. angry
        8. -2
          3 August 2021 12: 39
          You say an armed conflict, so you can drop a bomb on Kuev for a couple of megatons and there will be no complaints? Or "What about us?"
          Why are you so moaning about maintaining transit if you have a "conflict"? Doesn't it bother you?
  3. +4
    3 August 2021 11: 03
    First the ECHR, now this ... Ours are clearly preparing for something. Everyone understands that there will be zero profit from these ships.
    1. 0
      3 August 2021 11: 15
      Prepare for the elections.
      1. +6
        3 August 2021 11: 24
        Quote: Kronos
        Prepare for the elections.

        That is, there are still no fair elections, since the authorities are pumping up their ratings with cheap populist tricks?
        After all, if the elections are completely falsified, then why is this all, since the authorities will draw for themselves the result that they need?
        1. -3
          3 August 2021 14: 25
          If it is warm, then it must be soft ..))
  4. +2
    3 August 2021 11: 15
    Eh! Hold on to Baderlohi - I feel it will not be easy for you. That's right, you need to push in all directions.
  5. -1
    3 August 2021 11: 19
    It is not entirely clear from the article, to which particular court is it filing?
    1. -14
      3 August 2021 11: 29
      Quote: Avior
      It is not entirely clear from the article, to which particular court is it filing?

      In Simferopol if only
      1. +1
        3 August 2021 11: 42
        Do you seriously believe that the Simferopol court will never reach you? what Well, well. bully
        1. -4
          3 August 2021 12: 16
          Quote: paul3390
          Do you seriously believe that the Simferopol court will never reach you? what Well, well. bully

          Before us, definitely not
          1. +1
            3 August 2021 12: 27
            Oh, do not promise ... wink laughing
  6. +4
    3 August 2021 11: 22
    On the one hand, the Foreign Ministry finally woke up, as it were, on the other hand, before applying to the ECHR, it is necessary to prove that Crimean liberal black homosexuals and pedophiles suffered greatly from the blockades (just kidding). Otherwise, without them, the ECHR will not get through.
  7. +1
    3 August 2021 11: 26
    Crimea sues Ukraine for five types of blockades
    ... Trying to maintain normal relations with a neighbor whose brains have turned their backs ... is somehow naive, although, it can be said more simply and much more precisely - this is the greed of some who rub against the authorities and unprofessionalism, at least who drives, drives, finally, they drove to a situation when clowns, chocolate goons and bloody pastors began to rule close, brotherly people ...
    There will be a court of history, it will be, although a civil court will not be superfluous, that's for sure.
    1. +5
      3 August 2021 12: 41
      Quote: rocket757

      There will be a court of history, it will be, although a civil court will not be superfluous, that's for sure.


      They did not say where they were serving, but there will be a trial over Ukraine, they will answer for everything ...
      1. +1
        3 August 2021 13: 38
        The trial can and will be, but it depends on the place, time and people conducting it, who, how and for what will / can answer.
        1. +5
          3 August 2021 13: 47
          I suppose there will be a trial, but then and somewhere in Rostov ...
          1. +2
            3 August 2021 13: 58
            Boom look ...
            So that the court, it is desirable, to arrange not for the sake of the court, but so that those who are supposed to, who are guilty, will receive what they deserve.
            However, the matter is complex, most likely it will be multi-stage ... it happens.
            1. +5
              3 August 2021 14: 17
              Quote: rocket757

              So that the court, it is desirable, to arrange not for the sake of the court, but so that those who are supposed to, who are guilty, will receive what they deserve.


              And I mean that, our Investigative Committee is working tirelessly, so the trial is inevitable ...
    2. -7
      3 August 2021 14: 18
      Quote: rocket757
      Trying to maintain a normal relationship with a neighbor whose brains were turned off

      To squeeze the Crimea is a good attempt to preserve relations, in the LDNR, of course, the same miners fought and the brave ones rode on their own.
      1. +1
        3 August 2021 14: 43
        Any serious event has ... a background.
        Just constantly repeating that you have been offended ... will that change something?
  8. +1
    3 August 2021 11: 27
    There should be only one suit - for genocide.
    Article II
    c) deliberate creation for any group of such
    living conditions that are designed for full or partial
    physical destruction of her;
    Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide of 9 December 1948 *
  9. +3
    3 August 2021 11: 27
    What nonsense, what court are they going to go to? Who the hell did they give up with their problems ..........
    ... And at the end of July, the Russian Federation filed the first ever interstate lawsuit accusing Kiev of grave crimes against humanity committed after 2014.

    Do you know that there is already an ECHR response to this claim and guess what
    1. +3
      3 August 2021 11: 54
      Quote: APASUS
      and guess which

      hi as far as I know, the ECHR accepted the complaint, but did not apply interim measures. In principle, this was to be expected.
      1. 0
        3 August 2021 13: 44
        Quote: Kurare
        as far as I know, the ECHR accepted the complaint, but did not apply interim measures. In principle, this was to be expected.

        I didn’t accept it, citing a technical error, but the error lies in the fact that the complaint was written in Russian, and the working languages ​​of the ECHR were English and French. Submit complaints in the national language almost 90% refusal to consider
        1. +1
          3 August 2021 14: 00
          Quote: APASUS
          I didn’t accept it, citing a technical error.

          belay Right now I will look. Were gone to naught.
  10. +5
    3 August 2021 11: 29
    And at the end of July, the Russian Federation filed the first ever interstate lawsuit accusing Kiev of grave crimes against humanity committed after 2014.

    With the same success, you can write to Sportloto, there will be even more sense - we will save money on duties and other court / postage costs.
    1. 0
      3 August 2021 11: 40
      Quote: Olkhovsky
      You can just as well write in Sportloto, there will be even more sense

      Why did it happen? He did not give the ECtH a decision - to withdraw from it, especially since the legal field of Russia dominates the decisions of the ECtH.
      1. -1
        3 August 2021 11: 53
        He did not give the ECtH a decision - to withdraw from it, especially since the legal field of Russia dominates the decisions of the ECtH.

        So if the legal field is dominated by the Russian Federation, as you say, then why submit it to the ECHR? In the Basmanny court then it is necessary and business.
        What would the Russian Federation leave the ECHR !? Not with this power and regime.
        1. +3
          3 August 2021 12: 20
          Quote: Olkhovsky
          What would the Russian Federation leave the ECHR !? Not with this power and regime

          Sure? PACE bent for> a year? How did they howl without the dough? There will also be an ECHR. Regarding the Basmanny, you need some hype in the world (no matter what solution) to dunk the same ESPC in a kaku.
      2. -5
        3 August 2021 14: 12
        get out of it

        As if we are being kept there ..))
  11. 0
    3 August 2021 11: 46
    Now Crimea is suing Ukraine for these five types of blockades.

    I wonder what kind of court. In our Russian probably? The fairest court in the world!
    1. -4
      3 August 2021 12: 11
      I wonder which court

      In Basmanny, what else? Basmachi - they are the most famous for their staunch adherence to extremely fair justice in Russia ..
  12. +2
    3 August 2021 12: 16
    I doubt that someone recognizes the water and energy blockade as genocide, I have not seen that in the Crimea, the population perished en masse against the background of these events. 404 actions do not qualify as genocide.
    1. +2
      3 August 2021 12: 24
      Attempted genocide. Failed due to protective measures taken.

      Well, and also ecocide (plants and animals probably died due to the blockade).
    2. 0
      3 August 2021 12: 43
      Genocide (from the Greek γένος - clan, tribe and Latin caedo - I kill) is a form of mass violence [1], which the UN defines as actions committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, any national, ethnic, racial or religious the group as such by:

      killings of members of this group;
      causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of such a group;
      measures designed to prevent childbearing in such a group;
      forcibly transferring children from one human group to another;
      deliberate creation of living conditions designed for the complete or partial physical destruction of this group.


      The deprivation of water and electricity - doesn't it fall under the highlighted clause of the definition of genocide?
      1. -6
        3 August 2021 14: 14
        The deprivation of water and electricity - doesn't it fall under the highlighted clause of the definition of genocide?


        So any sanctions can be subsumed under this definition.
        And when Putin forbade importing tomatoes - who was it genocide ??)
        1. 0
          3 August 2021 14: 14
          And Putin, when he forbade importing tomatoes, is a genocide of who was

          Duc - tomatoes! laughing
          1. -4
            3 August 2021 14: 16
            Well, that means there was a genocide of electricity and water ..
            You can close the court ..))
            1. 0
              3 August 2021 14: 19
              You see what a thing - you can live without tomatoes, which the whole world demonstrated before the discovery of America .. But without water it is very unlikely .. As well as without electricity in the modern world ..
              1. -6
                3 August 2021 14: 53
                Before the discovery of electricity, they also lived .. which the whole world demonstrated ..
                And without tomatoes in the modern world, this is no longer life ..

                By the way, from Turkey we were not only forbidden to supply tomatoes ... they also never sold us water ...
      2. 0
        11 August 2021 15: 16
        No, it doesn't. I repeat, no one was hurt. Russia can also stop oil and gas supplies at 404, no one will be hurt, although it will be a little hard.
    3. -1
      3 August 2021 12: 55
      Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
      Adopted by resolution 260 (III) of the UN General Assembly of December 9, December 1948
      Article II
      In this Convention, genocide means the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such:
      a) killing members of such a group;
      b) causing serious bodily harm or mental impairment to members of such a group;
      c) the deliberate creation for any group of such living conditions, which are calculated for the complete or partial physical destruction of it;
      d) measures designed to prevent childbearing in the environment of such a group;
      e) forcibly transferring children from one human group to another.

      a), b), c) available

      Article III
      The following acts are punishable:
      a) genocide;
      b) conspiracy to commit genocide;
      (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
      d) attempted genocide;
      f) complicity in genocide.

      b), c), d) in stock.

      Persons who commit genocide or any other of the acts listed in Article III shall be punished, regardless of whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, officials or private individuals.
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  13. +1
    3 August 2021 12: 26
    Ukraine was dragged to the slaughterhouse, SP-2, lawsuits ... belay
  14. +2
    3 August 2021 12: 36
    Quote: paul3390
    Or are our bourgeois incomes much more important than the interests of the state? Why are we still supplying an outspoken enemy with all sorts of goodies?
    Duc on this and stand! To whom the war, and to whom - the mother is dear! The bourgeois do not fight themselves, they only use the "fruits" of the DB.
  15. 0
    3 August 2021 12: 37
    Quote: zwlad
    I wonder what kind of court. In our Russian probably? The fairest court in the world!
    Missed the news? Already a couple of weeks ago, they filed a lawsuit with the ECHR.
    1. +1
      3 August 2021 16: 32
      Especially for stoned miners who are too lazy to get into Google! https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4910369
  16. +5
    3 August 2021 12: 39
    After 2014, Kiev announced water, energy, banking, transport and food blockades to the Crimean population. Now Crimea is suing Ukraine for these five types of blockades.


    And where do they serve, what kind of court?
  17. 0
    3 August 2021 12: 41
    Quote: Maximilian37
    , I did not see that in the Crimea, the population perished en masse against the background of these events.
    Well, if we imagine that the population would exist only at the expense of Crimean products, then how would you look? No water, no irrigated fields, etc. difficulties. And we are not talking about genocide with consequences, but about genocide, as a determination of the actions of the independent in relation to the population of Crimea!
    1. -6
      3 August 2021 14: 15
      If we imagine that Siberia would exist only at the expense of Siberian products ... then ...
  18. +1
    3 August 2021 12: 47
    We wrote in Sportloto ... they just sit in three chairs instead of two. Not complaints should be scribbled, but interim measures should be taken at the state level. At least terminate the gas contract. If they start crying about the trial, then just present evidence about the blockade and the attempt at genocide of civilians and say, for high moral reasons, we do not consider ourselves entitled to work with such unscrupulous partners. Here's how to fix it - you can think about resuming, but strictly on market conditions. For all other complaints, submit photographs of Iskander as evidence.
  19. -1
    3 August 2021 13: 04
    As there Leningrad sings: - "elections, elections, candidates -3,14 ..."
    Statement for the elohtorat laughing
  20. -7
    3 August 2021 14: 08
    Preliminary losses from the cessation of water supply are estimated at 1,47 trillion rubles.


    Oh how .. 20 billion bucks .. just for water .. and just for today ..
    And from whose pockets is all this "compensated" ??
  21. +1
    3 August 2021 14: 24
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote: paul3390
    Oh, what kind of intelligence do you need in Tsegabonia - for a couple of bundles of bucks, they will immediately sell you any military secret and tie it with a beautiful bow!

    A very harmful thought. Clinical fools need to be watched especially closely. Intelligence activities and undercover penetration must be increased. And I think the former chairman of the KGB under the USSR Council of Ministers knows this and takes measures in accordance with the possibilities and priorities. All the same, it is very correct that our President is a regular employee of the special services. The next one should be chosen about the same. Certainly not from Mosfilm.

    We had a cruel lesson after the change of Putin to Medvedev ... He was in general gloom ... This fig lawyer, nifiga did not respect intelligence, relied everything on his leberals-sycophants and thieves ... Although the oligarchy was broken under Putin, and then with difficulty ... but with the liberals - it's just a disaster ...
  22. +1
    3 August 2021 14: 49
    What is this information? To what court do Trofimov's men serve and why did the omniscient Fix not find out at what stage the appeal to the ECHR is?
    1. 0
      5 August 2021 10: 35
      Quote: Elephant
      What is this information? What court do Trofimovites serve?

      Most likely another "media occasion".
  23. -14
    3 August 2021 15: 37
    The general mental abilities of the authors of the lawsuit and their knowledge of the law are depressing, frankly. Apparently, Article 43 of the Appendix to the 4th Hague Convention of 1907 ("it was a long time ago, we just did not know, and then we forgot") and Article 55 of the 4th Geneva Convention of 1949 ("it is only in English and French , but we only speak primordial Crimean and "foreign greyhounds are not eaters").
    In brackets there are ready-made arguments for a reasoned defense of the authors of the claim to the ECHR (I give from my bounty ... Free of charge).
  24. 0
    3 August 2021 16: 25
    Quote: Roman070280
    If we imagine that Siberia would exist only at the expense of Siberian products ... then ...

    Then imagine bolder! To begin with, you need to imagine that in Siberia all forests and springs disappeared in an hour, and the area became steppe, mountainous, with all that it implies! Sculpt cons, having absolutely no idea what our Crimea is like! Or do you think that apart from Yalta, Sevastopol, Sudak and Simferopol there is nothing here ?! Or do you think that our ancestors had nowhere to put their money, or there was nothing to do but lay channels? The cunning Khrushchevites used the topic of an acute shortage of water as an argument for the annexation of Crimea to the Square in 1954!
  25. 0
    3 August 2021 16: 29
    Quote: Astor-27
    In brackets there are ready-made arguments for a reasoned defense of the authors of the claim to the ECHR (I give from my bounty ... Free of charge).
    You'd better explain to us, sirim, in parentheses, what these articles are about, so that we do not waste time on searches!
    1. -15
      3 August 2021 17: 12
      Look, it will be useful for you to raise the general level of education.
  26. +1
    3 August 2021 18: 14
    Any kind of blockade, even directed exclusively against civilians, in accordance with international law, is considered a type of hostilities and is qualified as a war crime.
    journalist, publicist and political consultant Anatoly Wasserman
  27. 0
    3 August 2021 18: 31
    Quote: businessv
    Quote: zwlad
    I wonder what kind of court. In our Russian probably? The fairest court in the world!
    Missed the news? Already a couple of weeks ago, they filed a lawsuit with the ECHR.

    Since 1998, the International Criminal Court in The Hague has been the international criminal justice body responsible for prosecuting those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and military aggression.
    1. 0
      5 August 2021 10: 09
      Quote: 123456789
      the prosecution of those responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, as well as military aggression, since 1998 is the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
      I wonder if Russian lawyers are in the know? Thank you enlightened! hi
  28. 0
    3 August 2021 19: 17
    The Crimean Canal is an artificial hydraulic structure. Previously, a fee was charged for the water received from it on a contractual basis. Is there now a contract for the supply of water between Ukraine and Russia? Has Russia, as a new economic entity, submitted a request to conclude such an agreement?
    1. 0
      5 August 2021 10: 37
      Quote: Alex1715
      Has Russia, as a new economic entity, submitted a request to conclude such an agreement?
      Crimea filed, but was not accepted for consideration in the Square.
      1. 0
        6 August 2021 16: 58
        And what does the subject of the federation have to do with it? There must be an intergovernmental agreement
        1. 0
          8 August 2021 14: 42
          Quote: Alex1715
          There must be an intergovernmental agreement

          Any agreement begins with the submission of a corresponding application by the subject of the federation. There was a consideration of the application in Crimea, it was supported, it was transferred to the government of the federation, which issued the corresponding proposal to the independent one. It was not submitted for consideration by the government of the latter.
  29. 0
    3 August 2021 22: 35
    Quote: Astor-27
    Look, it will be useful for you to raise the general level of education.
    I didn’t expect another answer, but my level of education is quite sufficient, which you do not know about, so you don’t need to scribble nonsense again, your posts look strange even without this, when you add an article about the responsibility of the occupation authorities in the occupied territories to the .e. to the "injured" party at the time when it is it that cuts off the electricity and water supply to "its" citizens! Are you hiding behind the numbers of articles for what purpose? Are you embarrassed to voice it because you are afraid of the stockade? laughing
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      1. 0
        4 August 2021 20: 55
        Quote: Astor-27
        do not consider the Crimean peninsula the territory of the Russian Federation) who exactly is considered the occupier. And what are the responsibilities of this occupier.
        Special thanks for the young friend, completely mutual! Now about what exactly I wrote last time! The article is not about the Russian Federation and its obligations, but about the independent, which considers Crimea to be its own. If Crimea is an independent territory, then the inhabitants of Crimea are also citizens of Ukraine, right? But the guide authorities of the square cut off the water supply to their citizens and electricity in winter! How can you characterize these promotions ?! As an attempt at genocide, as I tried to tell you last time.
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  30. 0
    3 August 2021 22: 55
    Long overdue!
  31. 0
    5 August 2021 11: 20
    A.1. Are all adults here?
    Then it should be clear to adults that there is no need to go to court, where:
    p.1.1. it is very likely that "it is clear who" will be called wrong;
    p.1.2. then this decision will be waving around with the words "if you want - get it" in every case.

    A.2. Unlike the MX17 court, where, IMHO, there is a VERY, VERY good chance to "jump off", because:
    p.2.1. even the prosecutor and other company do not claim that they "went to shoot down MX17," but claim that they "went to shoot down a Ukrainian plane, but got into a Boeing" - this is pure "excess of the executor", to which none of the 4 accused has anything to do with it, and even according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, it pulls on an excuse.
    p.2.2. but since only one team of lawyers was hired for 1 accused (economy, ...) and this team is engaged ("leave me alone") .... not what is needed .... and no one is looking after her - and here we can have problems.

    A.3. And with the new court "in Crimea" and with the court "on Boeing", it would be possible to resolve issues normally, within the "framework of EU law" and other delights, but the desire of officials to "resolve the issue personally" (for example: https://tass.ru/ politika / 6114161 "Zakharova: Russia's consent to consultations on the death of MH-17 does not mean an admission of guilt"), and not to launch legal procedures where two (and not one "economy team") teams would look after each other - we will, as IMHO they say in Ukraine "imaemo sho imaemo" ("because there was no nail in the smithy" ....).
  32. 0
    5 August 2021 16: 16
    Success was not long in coming.
    Part one, about the first refusal of interim guarantees from the ECHR or "why you don't have to go to court, where you are not welcome and where you do not know how to submit documents. Why you need to hire lawyers (in fact, two to inform about each other .. ..) who know what and how to ask the court ":" The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) accepted Russia's claim against Ukraine, but refused to resort to interim measures demanded by the Russian side. The corresponding message was published on the court's website. "
    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/60fadc7a9a7947da5691d571

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