American press: B-21 Raider bomber will be the "worst nightmare" for Russian air defense

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Russian air defense systems will face great difficulties in the future, the latest American B-21 bomber will become "the worst nightmare" for Russia, says the author of an article for the US National Interest magazine Chris Osborne.

The latest American stealth bomber, the B-21, will pose many challenges to Russian air defense systems, Osborne writes. The aircraft has unique characteristics, most of which will never be declassified, and it itself will pose a threat to "any target anywhere in the world."



The author, citing a statement by an unnamed senior US Air Force official, asserts that even the Russian S-400 and S-500 systems, which the Russians claim can destroy stealth aircraft, will be “passed over” in front of the B-21. In order to locate an American forward bomber, the Russian military will need more sensitive radars, which they do not have. At the same time, he did not rule out that tests of the B-21 are carried out on air defense systems similar in their characteristics to Russian and Chinese complexes.

B-21's brand new stealth technology could make the plane Russia's "worst nightmare"

Osborne says.

Note that this is not the first praise of the promising bomber B-21 Raider in the American media. The same TNI magazine publishes the second or third article about the "best in the world" aircraft. Moreover, they are published under different authors, but the content is almost the same. Each argues that Russian air defenses are unable to detect a "stealth bomber" due to its advanced characteristics. However, the same in the United States continues to assert in relation to the "invisible" F-35.

Time will tell how it will be, and so far the American "worst nightmare" has not even made its first flight.
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  1. +23
    1 August 2021 14: 07
    AGAIN "WORST NIGHTMARE", the F-35 should be! I do not understand these Americans that it is not a development, then a nightmare. Now they will attach some kind of "BABAH" to the B-2 and go. Then they will finish finishing for a hundred years.
    1. +24
      1 August 2021 14: 22
      Remember what was the worst FE-117 nightmare in Yugoslavia? Yes Yes! Our complex C-125M "Neva"! And for the rider, so be it, save the C-200.
      1. Bat
        +24
        1 August 2021 14: 25
        Quote: Michael67
        Yes Yes! Our 75th complex!

        Here he is darling in parts in the museum. Invisible like that.
        1. +19
          1 August 2021 17: 04
          Small correction drinks Not worth it, but lying (one might even say lying around, like their pride) and then in parts, charred wassat And by tradition, American planes become the "worst nightmare" for ... the United States itself laughing Such was the SR-71, Valkyrie, f-111, f-117, f-22, even f-35 enrolled in the campaign. Disasters. a blow to the budget and bitter disappointment, the visibility of the invisible, the electrochemical corrosion, the irreversible deformation of the case, and the serial Mig-25, which overtook the fastest (thanks to the Israeli locators for fixing the record). Judging by the attempt to make the B-21 as a cheap version of the B-2, not everything is good in the "Danish kingdom" laughing The B-2 shattered the budget and with the cancellation of the B-1b, which did not justify the trust, oppressed (smeared with stealth and pinned to the ground, the best production aircraft of the United States in the B-1A version), it became too expensive. Something similar to the F-35, like a cheap version of the F-22. When the budget, even the United States does not pull. And then the Russians with their hypersound, new ICBMs and intercontinental torpedoes and cruise missiles are upsetting, they are also assembling a space airplane with a blaster ... wassat
          1. +8
            1 August 2021 17: 30
            Nothing out of the ordinary, just a PR of a new weapon. Many people do this, only the Americans do it on a grand scale. Firms pay to advertise each new "miracle". laughing
            1. +2
              1 August 2021 20: 09
              Air defense is unable to detect the "stealth bomber" due to its advanced characteristics. However, the same in the United States continues to assert in relation to the "invisible" F-35

              It was only after Turkey bought the S-400 that the F-35 stopped approaching Turkey, masking it with "sanctions."
            2. +2
              2 August 2021 10: 06
              PR is ordinary, but after all, counter-PR from our side should be adequate: let the stealth snot be smeared on Tribals and other Spanish-Norwegians, only we have enough deci- and just one meter radar range at the borders to step on this Ryder on tail in the shortest period of time, if the Mordovian "Container" rings out in time that some Ryders have risen from Gibraltar, Iceland or Sicily - there will also be those who will meet them with dignity.
              And as for PR on a grand scale, it’s so epic how the Americans did it with the F-35 - by chance it doesn’t work, such actions have been preparing for years !!! laughing laughing laughing
          2. -2
            1 August 2021 20: 36
            Laughed heartily))))) In a good way) Cheerfully wrote)
          3. +1
            2 August 2021 02: 16
            American planes are becoming the "worst nightmare" for ... the United States itself. Such was the SR-71

            Wasn't he fulfilling his functions as a scout and was never shot down? Well, yes, with the enormous complexity of operation, but still ... it's good that they have run out of engines for it.
            1. +1
              2 August 2021 12: 31
              And he was not supposed to be a scout. He was supposed to be a bomber. It was he who was downgraded, and he did not enter our space and was written off ingloriously. He flew along the borders, identifying the air defense response. The conclusion is disappointing - there is no chance of a breakthrough in depth. The missiles are faster, and the Mig-25/31 will catch up. In Vietnam, it was used in combat conditions and two were covered, although they did not recognize the shootdown, they referred to suicide, which does not add credibility by the way. But look at the map of Vietnam, a kind of narrow strip that you need to slip through. Therefore, a complete failure: huge financial costs, gold exploitation for ordinary non-all-weather reconnaissance and the same fast Russian interceptor coupled with the development of missiles. Engines are a secondary matter, if there was a sense, then they would be riveted. Spanked them three dozen. Not a little to throw in a landfill later. They have another failed plane - a shuttle, also expensive, half of them died, taking 14 pilots with them.
        2. +3
          1 August 2021 19: 00
          I wonder how many of them were shot down.
          1. 0
            1 August 2021 19: 13
            Downed-1 (maybe there was someone else who fell in Yugoslavia, but they could not confirm). And they themselves often fell.
          2. +1
            1 August 2021 20: 39
            Here he fell apart !!! As if from foam! Even the nose came off! Why would it be so .... Probably experienced !?
      2. +4
        1 August 2021 14: 37
        Well, the plane may not be visible, but the pilot is visible. laughing
      3. -9
        1 August 2021 15: 58
        ..... the newest American B-21 bomber will be "the worst nightmare" for Russia, says the author of an article for the US National Interest magazine Chris Osborne.

        The Russian Zircon missile has already become a nightmare for the US air defense. As they say, the ash crept up unnoticed.
      4. mvg
        -3
        1 August 2021 18: 49
        And for the rider, so be it, save the C-200

        It would be better to save some kind of smart book, for myself ... well, or what articles to read on VO. Normal authors.
        1. -4
          1 August 2021 20: 07
          Quote: mvg
          And for the rider, so be it, save the C-200

          It would be better to save some kind of smart book, for myself ... well, or what articles to read on VO. Normal authors.

          What are you suggesting to the author of an article for the American National Interest magazine Chris Osborne? Right! The United States, having neither the c500 nor the c400, nor even having systems of the c300 level in general, is testing something there. )))))))))))))) How to block them go to bow to the Turks, see how it shines, well, or they will continue to bluff. )))))))))))))))
          1. mvg
            0
            2 August 2021 11: 06
            neither the c500 nor the c400, nor even having systems of the c300 level in general, are experiencing something there

            Continue to watch TV Star and others like him. And read articles on VO how the S-300/400/500 "having no analogues in the world" land everything that flies. It is especially significant in Karabakh and Syria. They set up a direct no-fly zone, not a single dove of peace will fly by.
            PS: There are S-300 in Greece, Bulgaria, Ukraine .. Turkey has S-400. The Chinese sell right-to-left HQ-9A / B and Bukov analogues. Of course, amers have nowhere to practice .. at all. And they still haven't captured images of the S-300B4 and S-400 in Syria. Here are some burdocks
            1. 0
              2 August 2021 21: 10
              Quote: mvg
              neither the c500 nor the c400, nor even having systems of the c300 level in general, are experiencing something there

              Continue to watch TV Star and others like him. And read articles on VO how the S-300/400/500 "having no analogues in the world" land everything that flies. It is especially significant in Karabakh and Syria. They set up a direct no-fly zone, not a single dove of peace will fly by.
              PS: There are S-300 in Greece, Bulgaria, Ukraine .. Turkey has S-400. The Chinese sell right-to-left HQ-9A / B and Bukov analogues. Of course, amers have nowhere to practice .. at all. And they still haven't captured images of the S-300B4 and S-400 in Syria. Here are some burdocks

              why so many words if in fact there is nothing to object? )))))))))))))))))))) The US allies have c300, but the US does not
              Quote: poquello
              not even having systems of the c300 level in general

              , in order (there is no question of training!) to look through c400, you need to ask the Turks
              Quote: poquello
              go to bow to the Turks, see how it shines,

              and this PySy - I hope you know how the Americans train with their allies on c300, says a lot
              1. mvg
                +2
                2 August 2021 22: 13
                in fact there is nothing to object?

                I objected to you. Americans, Israel regularly train on the S-300 in Greece. The war in Syria 8 years ago, they could have already scanned everything they could. And Turkey will share with amers everything they ask. Sultan is adequate people. Understands where the border of permissibility lies.
            2. 0
              6 August 2021 22: 36
              S-300 is in Greece, Bulgaria, Ukraine .. S-400 in Turkey

              All these comparisons are comparisons of the Berdank with a Kalashnikov assault rifle. Do you really think that exactly what we have in service is supplied abroad?
      5. +2
        1 August 2021 19: 12
        1 combat loss for how many years of operation there?
        1. -2
          2 August 2021 01: 41
          1 combat loss for how many years of operation there?

          After which they were abruptly and permanently written off. Because this pepelats made sense only under the condition of absolute 100% invulnerability. Prior to that, he fought only against the natives.
          1. mvg
            +1
            2 August 2021 22: 17
            Prior to that, he fought only against the natives.

            Completely inadequate? Yugoslavia, which in the same electronics was more developed than the USSR - are they natives? And the air defense "Mayed in Russia", or Iraq, with ballistic missiles, the Air Force in the amount of almost 600 fighters and 3 Kilo ++ tanks are these natives, plus the same air defense from the USSR, also natives? The nuclear reactor was built in the end.
            PS: Well, you fucking give ... ©
            1. -3
              3 August 2021 11: 03
              Completely inadequate?

              Really)))
              Yugoslavia, which in the same electronics was more developed than the USSR - are they natives? And air defense "mayed in Russia",

              By that year, it was completely outdated against modern NATO weapons. If there was an S-300 in Yugoslavia, then one could still agree with you, but it’s just a sketch.
              or Iraq, with ballistic missiles, the Air Force of almost 600 fighters and 3 Kilo ++ tanks are the natives,

              All the weapons of Iraq of the 70s, against the weapons of the 90s from NATO.
              plus the same air defense from the USSR, too natives?

              Yes, Iraq's hopelessly outdated air defense system.
              The nuclear reactor was built in the end.

              They did not build it, but them.)))
              If Rosatom is building a nuclear power plant in Turkey, this does not mean that Turkey itself is building it.
              In fact, your post - you have a complete distortion of facts and a perversion of the meaning in a direction favorable to you)))
      6. +1
        3 August 2021 12: 27
        Then it's better to immediately remember what happened to Yugoslavia ?!
    2. +12
      1 August 2021 14: 26
      Each has its own: some have a "Worst NIGHTMARE", others have a "no analogue in the world." PR is a favorite dish of sawflies.
      1. AUL
        +9
        1 August 2021 14: 40
        Official media in any country extol their own and hayut the enemy.
        News not worth reading.
        1. +3
          1 August 2021 17: 37
          NI is not an official American media, but unofficially, it is generally similar to the Russian one. Its publisher is a native of the USSR and a presenter of programs on Russian TV, Putin's article about the anniversary of the victory was also published in it.
          1. +1
            1 August 2021 20: 29
            That does not negate the commercial component of the project, and work in the style of "both yours and ours will sing and dance for the loot"
    3. 0
      1 August 2021 14: 49
      - that this is not the first praise of the promising bomber B-21 Raider.
      If I often repeat something, then there are doubts ..
      The ONLY danger is their MASS application.
      1. 0
        1 August 2021 15: 57
        Quote: knn54
        The ONLY danger is their MASS application.

        The last "successful" massive use - Operation Linebacker II - lost 34 B-52s, 15 of them from the C-75. The Americans, of course, "won", they bombed Hanoi and, with their heads held high, began to make legs from Vietnam. Well, right, for the next bombing, there are very few cars left
        1. -1
          1 August 2021 17: 42
          Cut the sturgeon a little bit, about two times. It's nice to read such spirit-lifting comments, but you need to be at least a little objective. To study the loss of mattresses according to the data of the drv or Soviet military experts is tantamount to studying the losses of the Red Army according to the Wehrmacht. well known: 18 aircraft (15 during the operation, one was written off before and after, another was written off due to combat damage). The most interesting thing is that in the number of captured pilots in 52, the data for the Vietnamese and Americans coincide - 33 pilots. Book K. Hobson "Vietnam Air Losses" will help you. Of course, no source will claim for XNUMX% accuracy, but this book contains the most complete information with the number of losses, aircraft numbers, and the names of pilots.
          1. -3
            1 August 2021 17: 55
            Quote: Korax71
            Cut the sturgeon a little bit, about two times. It's nice to read such spirit-raising comments, but you have to be at least a little objective

            In Korea everything is exactly the same, in Vietnam it is the same. The Yankees themselves voiced the loss. True, Americans say about Linebacker II 8% losses, Ours about 18%. If we take the losses according to our account, then the number of American planes was much less, if according to the American account, they were clouds.
            And so 34 is about all Our all strategists today
      2. -3
        1 August 2021 16: 04
        Further on "THE ONLY danger is their MASS application." But the massive use of air defense systems should not be counted on. Air Defense has first-class pilots who can easily arrange "Black Thursday" number two.
        "In less than 10 minutes, the US Air Force lost 14 aircraft: 10 heavy bombers (B-29) and 4 fighters, 15 more heavy bombers were decommissioned after returning to base. About 120 personnel were captured."
      3. 0
        1 August 2021 16: 22
        Quote: knn54
        The ONLY danger is their MASS application.
        Colleague, most likely they will be acting alone under the cover of distractions from other US Air Force forces.
        And if they trample on "massively", then it will not be a sin to use a vigorous firecracker. With such a wing area, it will be the very thing for the VYAV in the SAK combat formations !!!
        IMHO.
        1. -1
          1 August 2021 16: 47
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Colleague, most likely they will be acting alone under the cover of distractions from other US Air Force forces.

          Who knows how the bourgeoisie will act. It will not be easy, but it will not be sweet for the enemy either. This is not Vietnam, not Yugoslavia, let alone Iraq.
          1. -1
            1 August 2021 18: 39
            Quote: BoA KAA
            A colleague, most likely

            Colleague. I think that we are losing to office plankton ((They threw minuses. Plankton does not know that our native NATO paramilitary organization is called A2 / AD - At Two in AD and is afraid no less than RSVN
      4. +2
        2 August 2021 10: 26
        For mass use, it is necessary to have a MASS construction, which is something that is not observed.
        And the fate of worthless Lightnings awaits these Ryders: they forged them in hundreds (if not thousands!), But as soon as they began to rise into the air at least in small groups, as soon as they began to be easily spotted by both survey and aircraft (aiming) locators, and the cow's sluggishness will surely "in case of something" not allow the senior aviation chief to lift them into the air, if at the same time there is even a small probability that a Su-35 or a MiG-31 may appear in this piece of space.
    4. +6
      1 August 2021 16: 38
      2 days at night I have nightmares. and "Ryders, and whose F-35s are shot down ... our S-500 Prometheus. Worst nightmare, I agree."
    5. -2
      1 August 2021 16: 43
      and when they say Russian is a nightmare for F35, it’s a nightmare at once
    6. 0
      2 August 2021 03: 43
      -right ! and will knock money out of Congress for revision. that is, there will be a second golden airplane.
  2. -4
    1 August 2021 14: 11
    Russian air defense systems will face great difficulties in the future, the latest American B-21 bomber will become "the worst nightmare" for Russia, says the author of an article for the US National Interest magazine Chris Osborne.

    Blah blah blah ))))
    About 20 years ago, rewind and also wrote victorious reports about the "invisible" F-35)))
    In order to locate an American forward bomber, the Russian military will need more sensitive radars, which they do not have.

    For a start, rivet these B-21s in hundreds of pieces, well, then an unexpected person will be waiting for you)))
    1. -2
      1 August 2021 14: 15
      Quote: lucul
      About 20 years ago, rewind and also wrote victorious reports about the "invisible" F-35)))

      Yes And first they praised the F-117, which was filled up in Yugoslavia ...
      1. +1
        1 August 2021 14: 26
        Star-striped bouncers with their prodigies (Fu-35, Zumvolt, Rail Solohotron, etc.) look like a character from an anecdote
        - Yes, I will sleep with you so much that you will forget your name, baby ....!
        - In three minutes: I'm done, and how are you?
        - Yes, still Lena! laughing
        1. avg
          -1
          1 August 2021 15: 18
          They all have: "the worst nightmares", "ruthless killers of air defense", "super-duper hypersound", but all this is in the skillful hands of 54 genders! I'm embarrassed to ask - can you already start to be afraid, or give up right away? request
          1. -3
            1 August 2021 17: 27
            Quote: avg
            can you already start to be afraid, or give up right away?

            Give up and vote for Putin right away drinks
      2. Bat
        +1
        1 August 2021 14: 26
        Quote: ROSS 42
        And first they praised the F-117, which was filled up in Yugoslavia ...

        Marketing respected marketing!
  3. 0
    1 August 2021 14: 13
    Yes! American press, great experts in the air defense systems of the Russian Federation! (((
  4. +7
    1 August 2021 14: 16
    They have no analogues, we have no analogues! Damn what! Do not boast, going to the army, boast, walking from the army. Russian folk proverb. Soldiers have forgotten the wisdom of the war.
  5. -3
    1 August 2021 14: 21
    S-400, S-500 will satisfy him so that it will not seem a little.
  6. +1
    1 August 2021 14: 23
    Similar bravura opuses were written about Zumwalt, which is perfectly visible on millimeter-wave radars. In general, there is a purely sporting interest here. In a global conflict, it makes no difference what will be seen or not seen on the radars.
    1. 0
      1 August 2021 18: 27
      How does a millimeter-wave radar react to weather conditions? At what distance is it perfectly visible on radars?
    2. -1
      1 August 2021 19: 15
      Do you know a lot of "millimeter-wave radars" on which these Zamwolts are visible?
  7. -2
    1 August 2021 14: 24
    Each argues that Russian air defenses are unable to detect a "stealth bomber" due to its advanced characteristics. However, the same in the United States continues to assert in relation to the "invisible" F-35.


    Promotion for vassals, they'll be shoved all over ...
    1. +1
      1 August 2021 14: 47
      Quote: cniza
      Promotion for vassals, they'll be shoved all over.

      Vassals don't get this ... super important elements of prestige. Vassals must be sure that the "white lord" is the most, most ...
      Then they are obedient and willingly pay tribute ... often in blood.
    2. 0
      1 August 2021 16: 04
      That's how it IS DONE now!
      Although the case is not, but, it is being done, done.
      1. -1
        1 August 2021 17: 03
        All according to the F-35 scenario - they sell and not bad ...
    3. -2
      1 August 2021 16: 38
      Quote: cniza
      Promotion for vassals, they'll be shoved all over ...

      I did not bloom magnificently for you! (with)
      No, vassals are not supposed to ... for them it is an INSANE prodigy ... The maximum they will be allowed is to organize a base at English / German (maybe Polish - but hardly) airfields.
      This is where we catch them: you can detect the rise in the air and meet them at the turn of interception; it is possible to give DRGs to shoot from large-caliber screw-cutters; but you can also attack from an RPG in the parking lot or something else ... wink
  8. 0
    1 August 2021 14: 33
    And the B 21 flies in general, and the C 500 is already in the "hardware" and shoots! And shoots well.
  9. 0
    1 August 2021 14: 33
    It will be really the worst nightmare for America, when it turns out how much money was thrown into it, and what every air defense system sees it.
  10. -3
    1 August 2021 14: 39
    Judging by the statements, B 21 will be the best target for Russian air defense, we will wait for the test at F 35
  11. -1
    1 August 2021 14: 40
    Everyone is boasting, but they are boasting, but the loss of a number of competencies in high-tech military industries does not bother them ?!
    1. +3
      1 August 2021 15: 16
      Or maybe it’s good that it doesn’t bother the United States, the influx of scientists, programmers, university professors and designers from China, the former USSR and India is critically decreasing. Those who arrived at the collapse of the USSR run out of resources due to their age. Some of the former citizens of the USSR are returning to Russia. And their worthy replacements are minuscule. And that doesn't bother them either. It's good. 10 Ticonderoga-class cruisers are being removed from service - identical leaks in the fuel system. The elimination is too expensive. LSC littoral amphibious trimarans of two types - with aluminum and steel hulls - are being decommissioned - critical flaws, the elimination of which will cost $ 2,5 billion. This money is planned for the development of the latest frigates. Passenger Boeings 737, 747 and 777-200 are attached. Instead of a large series of Zumvolts, two were built, and even those are armed with unplanned electromagnetic cannons (which are not and will no longer be - funding for development has been crushed), problems with the F-35. Because of all this at the Pentagon! there are problems with financing. When did this happen, there is not enough money for the Pentagon ?!
  12. +3
    1 August 2021 14: 42
    This is what they said under Reagan about SOI, they talked about the F-117 and B-2 under Clinton, so they talked about the F-22 under Bush, about the F-35 under Obama. pain. Another bluff from the Yankees for the internal consumer.
    PS: In general, the Americans are a strange people. Horizon stations in the centimeter range are able to see objects the size of a medium-sized bird. In the late 60s and early 70s this caused a lot of confusion among the air defense officers from the opposing units of that time. Flocks of migratory birds, geese cranes, were perceived as shock wedges of bombers .Witnesses of those events are already very old people, and many have died, modern youth does not know at all. With the advent of phased antennas, the problem has receded. So about the "invisibility" of all these invisibles, we can say that this is a deception.
    1. 0
      1 August 2021 15: 45
      "Flocks of migratory birds, cranes geese, were perceived as shock wedges of bombers" ///
      ---
      It was the radars that were wrong meter range.
      They perceived the flock as one Bomber
      1. +1
        1 August 2021 16: 14
        Quote: voyaka uh
        It was the VHF radars that were wrong.
        They perceived the pack as one bomber

        I don’t know, maybe I’m a very cool radar, but for the P-12 it was definitely the storytellers who came up with the idea that a flock of birds can be confused with a bomber
        1. +1
          2 August 2021 10: 44
          Voyaka accidentally opened the manual from the P-20 radar: at that time there were aircraft flying at speeds less than 100 km / h and these aircraft were also sometimes called bombers (night and light) - this is Po-2! lol
      2. +4
        1 August 2021 16: 45
        Quote: voyaka uh
        It was the VHF radars that were wrong.
        They perceived the pack as one bomber

        Alexey, and it was not destiny to look at the speed in time before pressing the alarm button in hysteria !?
        There are classification signs of the VTS ... Well, what kind of bomber flies at a speed of 50-80 km / h ???
        And you say, PAVLINS! laughing
        1. 0
          1 August 2021 17: 03
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Well, what kind of bomber flies at a speed of 50-80 km / h ???

          A pair of Su-30s with AL-41 dviguns at MAKS-2021 without weapons is true, but at a speed of 50 km per hour they were enchanting !!!!. A lot of radars just go bad.
          And so I agree. The behavior of a flock of birds with the behavior of any pepelats is very difficult to confuse. My opinion is that the Yankees are thinking behind the drone swarm for a reason. Here they can disguise themselves as a flock of birds. But again - the behavior will not be natural
          1. 0
            2 August 2021 10: 53
            And under what form of airspace control will this stealth swarm be detected?
            Is it a Container? A-50 (100)? Duty link?
        2. 0
          2 August 2021 10: 22
          The principle is, first we shoot, then we look at whom we shoot. SAMs of that period were deployed much slower than modern ones.
    2. -1
      1 August 2021 19: 16
      ... Over-the-horizon centimeter range stations

      Do you know many of them?
      1. -2
        1 August 2021 19: 31
        Quote: Do you know many of these?
        Do you know many of them?

        Don, Voronezh, Antenna station, I forgot the name. You're scared, I'm not
        1. -1
          1 August 2021 20: 33
          Don, Voronezh over-the-horizon radars, not over-the-horizon.
          1. -1
            1 August 2021 20: 39
            Quote: Avior
            Don, Voronezh over-the-horizon radars, not over-the-horizon.

            Well I do not know. Now a question from me. And who are they over the horizon? And is there, according to your classification, finally
            1. 0
              2 August 2021 07: 19
              Of course have.
              Those that are within the radio horizon are above the horizon, which are further beyond the horizon.
            2. +1
              2 August 2021 11: 33
              For example, over-the-horizon is a Container: At a distance of 2 t.km, it seems to see an EC the size of a soccer ball (I did not sit at the remote control myself, I don’t know), but the range is also a slave. its frequencies are 3-30MHz. So you need to try - let them release Rota from the base with a dozen, and we will try to intercept the Kovylkino or Kaliningrad Container (a couple of units on duty will also sit in readiness)
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  14. 0
    1 August 2021 14: 46
    "Will become the worst nightmare" since the headline in the article is repeated 4 times. It won't make him any worse
  15. -2
    1 August 2021 14: 54
    HaHa as always loud headlines .... in fact, thanks for the warning. Forewarned is forearmed.
  16. -1
    1 August 2021 15: 02
    Quietly, the Americans should not be told about the ranges where their planes are visible at a glance. Plus ROFAR is on its way. Another cut of the budget at the expense of the Americans ...
    1. -4
      1 August 2021 15: 11
      It should be clarified that the B-21 still carries missiles and it should be detected not point-blank, but a thousand kilometers away. Here stealth is not really needed, but since they really want to ...
    2. -2
      1 August 2021 19: 17
      Well, at close range, except that. In addition to drying, not a single Russian aircraft even has AFAR, it is expensive.
  17. -5
    1 August 2021 15: 09
    ***
    We have an antidote for every uncle ...
    ***
  18. +1
    1 August 2021 15: 10
    I really don't understand why to respond to an attack of a strategic bomber with an attack on a strategic bomber?

    The infliction of massive strikes against targets deep in the territory of the Russian Federation is a pretext for a retaliatory strike with ballistic missiles against enemy cities. Whether the bomber itself will be shot down is completely irrelevant.

    Only our unconditional readiness to respond to any attack in this way guarantees that there will be no such attack.
    1. -3
      1 August 2021 15: 36
      I really don't understand why to respond to an attack of a strategic bomber with an attack on a strategic bomber?


      Suggest not to shoot down? By the time he reaches the line, everything will be clear to everyone. Both our ballistic missiles and theirs will not only fly away, but also explode.
      But in general, the B-21 is not really a strategist. This is between our Tu-160 and Tu-22. Just a long range bomber. And most likely it will be used at sea primarily as an anti-ship platform. The Chinese with their fleet do not allow amers to live in peace, so they remembered about the bombers class they did not need before.
      1. -2
        1 August 2021 16: 02
        So what is the general threat to the Russian Federation?
        1. -6
          1 August 2021 16: 27
          Quote: Sancho_SP
          So what is the general threat to the Russian Federation?

          They are not annoying. I just want to fill it up, but you can't
      2. +1
        1 August 2021 17: 25
        Quote: dauria
        But actually B-2, 1 is not really a strategist.

        Yes, like a radius of 11 thousand. km, load 27 tons, and boNba and missiles can load ... Isn't it a strategist?
        Quote: dauria
        And most likely it will be used at sea primarily as an anti-ship platform.

        It is possible, of course, that the poor fellow can use it anyway. But its main feature is the breakthrough of the enemy's missile defense / air defense, making passages for the TA.
        1. +1
          1 August 2021 17: 37
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Yes, like a radius of 11 thousand. km, load 27 tons, and boNba and missiles can load ... Isn't it a strategist?

          A barnyard stump will fly up at low altitude, like a B-1. Not a nightmare, of course, but a headache for the air defense forces on duty is provided. Especially for RTV
  19. +1
    1 August 2021 15: 17
    In fact, little is known about this aircraft and it can be assumed that it really has the latest technologies of low visibility, besides, there are no problems with financing in the United States, and in terms of specialists, specialists from all over the world, including Russia, work on them. So, you can tear a vest on yourself for a long time without having anything other than Tu-160 and Tu-95 from the last century, but underestimating a potential enemy is stupid.
    1. 0
      1 August 2021 15: 23
      Quote: Adimius38
      it has the latest technologies of low visibility, besides, there are no problems with financing in the USA, and in terms of specialists, specialists from all over the world, including Russia, work for them.

      Overestimate too.
      1. HAM
        -1
        1 August 2021 15: 33
        Americans would not be Americans if they did not advertise everything and everyone ... but how they can do it, time will tell .......... if only the railgun was not put on the bomber crying ..... and then, yes, kaput ..
        1. -1
          2 August 2021 01: 56
          if only they didn't put the railgun on the bomber

          And sho, the law of conservation of momentum was canceled? Will the bomber fly backwards when fired by the railgun?
          1. +1
            2 August 2021 05: 50
            And this will already be a tactical retreat
          2. HAM
            0
            2 August 2021 13: 04
            You do not understand the irony ..... they are always trying to shove into the unpickable, the same "Zumvolt" ...
  20. +2
    1 August 2021 15: 27
    Quote: Sancho_SP
    It should be clarified that the B-21 still carries missiles and it should be detected not point-blank, but a thousand kilometers away. Here stealth is not really needed, but since they really want to ...

    No, they want to break through the PWO at ultra-low heights at high speed with rounding the terrain. That is why STELS are molded. Let's see what they and we can do ...
    1. -6
      1 August 2021 16: 28
      Do you think this tailless fool is capable of flying at low altitudes with rounding the terrain, and even at high speed? I strongly doubt that he is capable of this. Its design is painfully complicated, and so is the control system. In my opinion, they ditched one, and maybe not one B-2 due to piloting errors.
    2. 0
      1 August 2021 17: 42
      Quote: Dzafdet
      No, they want to break through the PWO at ultra-low altitudes at high speed with rounding the terrain. That is why they mold STELS.
      Why stealth at low altitudes, and at low altitudes, and a conventional plane is hardly noticeable?
  21. 0
    1 August 2021 15: 31
    what If it will, it will not, my grandmother said it in two. If you stomp along this path, then you can also write that the Russian C-55000superandpuper will become a nightmare, horror and cause of eneuresis of everything flying under the US and NATO flags. laughing
  22. -1
    1 August 2021 15: 33
    Well, everything is as always from American "experts": it MAY make it the worst nightmare ... "Or maybe not. Does the American expert know all the parameters and characteristics of Russian air defense systems? expressed an opinion ?!
  23. -2
    1 August 2021 15: 39
    And then I thought that he would be the best of the best nightmares ... and he is the worst! Again, substandard vtyuhivpyut. Advertising...
  24. -5
    1 August 2021 15: 42
    Well, let him try to fly, at least near the borders of Russia. And then we'll see how inconspicuous he is.
    And what new laws of physics have opened in the United States for this. Something tells me that any air defense complex can notice it.
  25. 0
    1 August 2021 16: 00
    You won't try, you won't know ...
  26. -4
    1 August 2021 16: 08
    They will tell the gop when they jump over, but this is a windbag. With the Super-Duper rocket, it doesn't fucking work out but how much ambition was in the press wassat
  27. -6
    1 August 2021 16: 09
    Again nonsense and .di.ota. Let them first "hide" their "invisibles" from the stations of the P-15 type. if they can, they will have a ghostly hope of hiding their pieces of "invisibility" from more or less modern radars. In the meantime, B-21 is a Coca-Cola-style commercial, that is, enchanting nonsense.
  28. +2
    1 August 2021 16: 10
    Guys, who of you managed to sit behind the screen of the same P-18 must remember how many problems the so-called atmospheric formations created. A banal whirlwind, and already heterogeneity and reflections of radio waves.
    What I am leading to, now I will reveal a military secret, although no, already a commercial one.
    So, all this stealth technology in aviation is one big hoax. You can of course make the plane completely invisible to all radars. But such it will be while parked in calm conditions. In flight, how not to be sophisticated, but in front of the plane there will be a zone of dense air that is quite capable of reflecting radio waves.
    Therefore, it makes sense of course to take measures to reduce the radio signature somewhat. But to disfigure the flight characteristics of the F-117A for the sake of this is clearly too much.
  29. -4
    1 August 2021 16: 23
    Many stations of passive observation in infrared and in sound will solve the problem of undetectable detection of an inconspicuous aircraft. All that remains is to deliver the rocket there.
  30. -1
    1 August 2021 16: 25
    It will become a nightmare for the US Air Force and budget.
  31. -2
    1 August 2021 17: 07
    While he is in the air he must be feared so the American said, it's a nightmare. And what about him when he is already scattered to smithereens on the ground? The Yugoslavs were not afraid to shoot him down.
  32. -1
    1 August 2021 17: 10
    If they started whistling in advance, then they are promoting and there may be problems ... fellow PR, but how else?
  33. 0
    1 August 2021 17: 14
    Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    ***
    We have an antidote for every uncle ...
    ***

    It will be correct: "For every uncle, there will be an aunt!" wassat
  34. -5
    1 August 2021 17: 19
    Quote: Dzafdet
    Quote: Sancho_SP
    It should be clarified that the B-21 still carries missiles and it should be detected not point-blank, but a thousand kilometers away. Here stealth is not really needed, but since they really want to ...

    No, they want to break through the PWO at ultra-low heights at high speed with rounding the terrain. That is why STELS are molded. Let's see what they and we can do ...

    It won't give a ride ... at high speeds, and even at ultra-low altitudes - it will be like plasma - the laws of thermodynamics operate there ... and the car will turn like a hot iron ... wassat
  35. -1
    1 August 2021 17: 38
    B-21's brand new stealth technology could make the plane Russia's "worst nightmare"

    Nuuuu .... you can't praise yourself - no one will praise
  36. -1
    1 August 2021 17: 43
    Have you already learned how to hide from long-wave radars? They can't aim a rocket, but fighters - please.
  37. -3
    1 August 2021 18: 27
    Quote: hrych
    Small correction drinks Not worth it, but lying (one might even say lying around, like their pride) and then in parts, charred wassat And by tradition, American planes become the "worst nightmare" for ... the United States itself laughing Such was the SR-71, Valkyrie, f-111, f-117, f-22, even f-35 enrolled in the campaign. Disasters. a blow to the budget and bitter disappointment, the visibility of the invisible, the electrochemical corrosion, the irreversible deformation of the case, and the serial Mig-25, which overtook the fastest (thanks to the Israeli locators for fixing the record). Judging by the attempt to make the B-21 as a cheap version of the B-2, not everything is good in the "Danish kingdom" laughing The B-2 shattered the budget and with the cancellation of the B-1b, which did not justify the trust, oppressed (smeared with stealth and pinned to the ground, the best production aircraft of the United States in the B-1A version), it became too expensive. Something similar to the F-35, like a cheap version of the F-22. When the budget, even the United States does not pull. And then the Russians with their hypersound, new ICBMs and intercontinental torpedoes and cruise missiles are upsetting, they are also assembling a space airplane with a blaster ... wassat

    In 1992, when the USSR collapsed and the Warsaw Pact collapsed, the Americans got 2 MiG-29 E (export) with the N-019 radar. What was their surprise when the radar of this aircraft was able to detect their much-praised B-2 Spirit, even against the background of the earth, not like in the air. After that, the B-2 Spirit program was covered up, since for 2 billion 100 million apiece for scrap metal, which is seen, like a regular plane, it is too expensive. And invisibility did not work. This was told by Larry Nielsen - a high-class specialist, test pilot of the US Air Force, who happened to take part in the test of the MiG-29 E. The plane fell into the hands of the Americans immediately after the reunification of Germany.
  38. 0
    1 August 2021 18: 55
    Everything depends on the detection range. At what distance will our complexes detect and escort him? Stealth planes are hardly useless. Again, the PAK YES seems to be made according to the flying wing scheme. But for some reason they do not write that he will be easily spotted and strayed by a patriot. Maybe our stealth is the best? All the same, these aircraft are dangerous and you cannot win a war from defense. Any air defense will be pushed through. And it's easier to do it with stealth
  39. -4
    1 August 2021 19: 00
    I bet that this "invisibility" will be seen and destroyed even by the S-75
  40. -1
    1 August 2021 19: 11
    Personally, I would not despair fiercely.
    Bo there is a locknut for each bolt. As life shows. feel
  41. -2
    1 August 2021 19: 23
    Quote: 123456789
    Quote: hrych
    Small correction drinks Not worth it, but lying (one might even say lying around, like their pride) and then in parts, charred wassat And by tradition, American planes become the "worst nightmare" for ... the United States itself laughing Such was the SR-71, Valkyrie, f-111, f-117, f-22, even f-35 enrolled in the campaign. Disasters. a blow to the budget and bitter disappointment, the visibility of the invisible, the electrochemical corrosion, the irreversible deformation of the case, and the serial Mig-25, which overtook the fastest (thanks to the Israeli locators for fixing the record). Judging by the attempt to make the B-21 as a cheap version of the B-2, not everything is good in the "Danish kingdom" laughing The B-2 shattered the budget and with the cancellation of the B-1b, which did not justify the trust, oppressed (smeared with stealth and pinned to the ground, the best production aircraft of the United States in the B-1A version), it became too expensive. Something similar to the F-35, like a cheap version of the F-22. When the budget, even the United States does not pull. And then the Russians with their hypersound, new ICBMs and intercontinental torpedoes and cruise missiles are upsetting, they are also assembling a space airplane with a blaster ... wassat

    In 1992, when the USSR collapsed and the Warsaw Pact collapsed, the Americans got 2 MiG-29 E (export) with the N-019 radar. What was their surprise when the radar of this aircraft was able to detect their much-praised B-2 Spirit, even against the background of the earth, not like in the air. After that, the B-2 Spirit program was covered up, since for 2 billion 100 million apiece for scrap metal, which is seen, like a regular plane, it is too expensive. And invisibility did not work. This was told by Larry Nielsen - a high-class specialist, test pilot of the US Air Force, who happened to take part in the test of the MiG-29 E. The plane fell into the hands of the Americans immediately after the reunification of Germany.

    Is there any confirmation of this opus?
  42. 0
    1 August 2021 19: 54
    If this plane flies around the territory of Russia for thousands of kilometers, then one can say anything.
  43. -1
    1 August 2021 20: 18
    Damn yugam about your invisibility tell ...
  44. 0
    1 August 2021 20: 44
    American press: B-21 Raider bomber will be the "worst nightmare" for Russian air defense


    Rather the worst nightmare for American taxpayers laughing
  45. 0
    1 August 2021 21: 03
    I wonder what the Americans have tested their planes on, if they do not have something similar to our S-300 and S400, I am already silent about the S-500.
  46. +7
    1 August 2021 21: 07
    No one has seen the S-500, this B-21 has not taken off from the drawing board yet.
    How can you argue about who will win?
  47. 0
    1 August 2021 23: 18
    It remains to stock up on nuts and beer. fellow
    In the left corner is the "worst nightmare of air defense", in the right corner is the "unparalleled invisible killer". fellow

  48. +2
    2 August 2021 00: 01
    In order to locate an American forward bomber, the Russian military will need more sensitive radars, which they do not have.
    When the F-117 Nighthawk appeared, American magazines wrote almost the same thing. True, in the skies of Yugoslavia this "Lame Goblin" from the C-75 was filled up, for the simple reason that there were no more modern systems ...
    1. +1
      2 August 2021 09: 14
      In fact, his C-125 was shot down.
      https://topwar.ru/42252-neizvestnye-podrobnosti-unichtozheniya-amerikanskih-bombardirovschikov-nevidimok-v-nebe-yugoslavii.html
      1. 0
        2 August 2021 12: 38
        Quote: riwas
        In fact, his C-125 was shot down.

        Well, yes. Then it changes the situation a lot.
  49. +1
    2 August 2021 00: 15
    Well, yes, there will be such a bomber, so what? Actually, this article is the answer to the question, why do we need different new weapons and so many. It is precisely so that their wet dreams do not go beyond the paper.
  50. +1
    2 August 2021 03: 40
    - will it become !!! ??? The main thing is PR and knocking out money from Congress for development and production. "Oneness" blows away the roof in all areas.
  51. +1
    2 August 2021 04: 02
    No, it is the Russian bistatic radar "Struna-1" that will be the B-21's worst nightmare...

    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/struna-1-rls/

    am
  52. 0
    2 August 2021 04: 02
    Well, trouble has come, open the gate. A moronic journalist may have time to publish a new issue of the magazine, or maybe not, and absolute invisibility against nuclear bombs does not work, and we have a lot of them.
    What theater is Chris Osborne talking about, Syria? No! Then perhaps he is discussing his territory, well then let him discuss spherical horses and blind air defense, on their territory they can commit suicide.
  53. -1
    2 August 2021 05: 27
    Damn, they're the ones showing off, as always, so we'll easily shoot them down
  54. wow
    +1
    2 August 2021 08: 09
    Another "nightmare" for the Russians! My God, how many similar “nightmares have there already been...?
  55. +1
    2 August 2021 09: 09
    While the B-21 Raider takes off, our hypersonic missiles will already be in the United States, and then a second strike by the Burevestniks.
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  57. 0
    2 August 2021 20: 11
    Quote: alch3mist
    After which they are sharply

    After 8 years, this is dramatic!
  58. 0
    3 August 2021 02: 28
    Well, it depends on the spectrum. Not visible in one, visible in the other. They are already talking about rofars. THz range. So how will they hide?
  59. 0
    3 August 2021 12: 05
    Quote: lucul

    To begin with, you rivet hundreds of these B-21s, and then a surprise will be waiting for you
    One and something simpler will be enough, the flight of the downed Boeing over the Donbass was tracked by only one civilian radar, that is, then there was a huge hole in our South, it’s good if it’s fixed now
    1. +1
      3 August 2021 21: 40
      Why did you decide that? Because the military did not provide their data?
  60. 0
    3 August 2021 22: 58
    Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
    Because the military did not provide their data?

    Most likely, there was no data, otherwise high-quality data would have been provided long ago with the launch of the Ukrainian Buk. No one doubts that he shot down the Boeing. If there is no data, then there were no radars there then either (except for the civilian one in Rostov)
    1. 0
      4 August 2021 12: 10
      Firstly, given the level of falsification of the investigation, no one will provide them with important evidence ahead of time. Moreover, you can hide behind military secrets about what the Americans are doing, even if for another reason.
      Secondly, where did you get the idea that the plane was shot down from the ground? The facts point to an air-to-air attack pattern.
  61. 0
    4 August 2021 15: 52
    Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
    The facts point to an air-to-air attack pattern.
    Unfortunately, Russia itself has rejected these facts; even what could be mistaken for a combat aircraft is now officially considered Boeing fragments. And for some reason other facts were not provided, that is, the plane was there, but it was not noticed by our radars

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