Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"

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Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"

Kiev will continue to fight the Russian Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, trying to prevent it from earning money. This was stated by the head of the Ukrainian "Naftogaz" Yuriy Vitrenko.

Vitrenko admitted that Ukraine would no longer be able to stop the construction of the gas pipeline, but it is quite possible to prevent its launch. To do this, it is enough to make sure that it is not certified. For this, Kiev, according to the head of Naftogaz, has methods.



According to him, Kiev needs to prove that the operator of Nord Stream 2 is controlled by Gazprom and Putin. Thus, it will be established that the production and transportation of gas is carried out by one company or person, and this is prohibited by European legislation.

Despite the announcement of a "war" with the Russian gas pipeline, Vitrenko admitted that Ukraine needs to negotiate with Gazprom on the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine after the expiration of the contract. However, according to him, today there are no contacts with the Russian company, and time is running out. At the same time, he expressed the hope that Kiev will be able to agree with Moscow on gas transit and this will happen before 2024.

Meanwhile, Germany threatened to block Nord Stream 2 if Russia again commits "aggressive actions directed against Ukraine." A corresponding statement was made by the chairman of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), candidate for Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, Armin Laschet. True, he told all this in an interview with a Polish newspaper, and not speaking from a high rostrum. It should be noted that such statements have been heard more than once and will continue until the gas pipeline starts operating.
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  1. +45
    1 August 2021 07: 51
    Already tired of listening to the poor.
    1. -49
      1 August 2021 08: 00
      Poor means poor and wretched. But in this struggle, they are never miserable, but they show an obstinate character and do not give up. And this proves once again that they are with us one community and the slogan of the Cadet Milyukov "War to the bitter end" they, like us, heard in history lessons at the school desk.
      ..
      Something like that.
      1. +33
        1 August 2021 08: 57
        Cockroaches are also stubborn and stubborn. But this does not mean that they cease to be cockroaches. In their case, perseverance is a way of survival. Actually, like 404.
        1. +7
          1 August 2021 10: 26
          Quote: carstorm 11
          In their case, perseverance is a way of survival. Actually, like 404.

          So it would be possible to talk about the country if the officials of this country would fight for the interests of the country. And the impression that turns into confidence that the top officials who make decisions and influence the state of the country are today fighting for their personal survival and therefore are acting against the interests of the country. And 404 itself at every election and Maidan, trying to nominate worthy people to the leadership of us, every time gets the vilest of the vilest. So it was in 2004, so it was in 2014. So it happened in the last elections in 2019.
          1. +2
            1 August 2021 13: 14
            Today on the arena another ukrokloun - Yura Vytrenko! laughing I just want to scream: "Saw, Shura, saw!" Only Yura needs to hurry up with the "fight" - 2-2 weeks are left before the construction of the SP-3 is completed ... laughing laughing laughing
            1. +5
              1 August 2021 15: 31
              I like how in Ukraine Muraev absolutely competently and politically consistently criticizes the Kiev authorities in relation to the "SP-2". .And also about the Steinmeier formula, the conflict in Donbass and external influence on Ukraine.
              Namely.

              1. "SP-2" is beneficial to Europe - primarily because of the INSELVABILITY of Ukraine itself as a transporter of Russian gas to Europe.
              And at the same time, the Kiev authorities are not doing ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING in order to become a RELIABLE transporter of Russian gas to Europe.

              2. Moreover, in Ukraine EXTERNAL management from London and the USA. And the poorer Ukraine is, the more pliable it will be to the foreign policy interests of the United States and Great Britain against Russia.
              And the same Vetrenko also, in fact, serves the United States.

              3. Kiev in no way wants to publicly admit that their own national interests of the USA, Great Britain, Germany, France in gas are for them above the national interests of some kind of pro-NATO Ukraine colonized by them. And that the authorities in Kiev are interested in the West no more than as "Ukraine is anti-Russia",

              4. To defend the sovereignty of Ukraine, according to Muraev, the people of Ukraine can only not in subordination to the West, but in an alliance with Russia.

              REFERENCE.
              Yevgeny Muraev - People's Deputy of Ukraine of VII-VIII convocations, leader of the "OUR" party.

              Muraev: Zelensky has already begun to see clearly about the real attitude of Europe towards us. OUR 25.07.21 (Watch Muraev's speech from 0:40 min.)
      2. +26
        1 August 2021 09: 16
        Quote: Troll
        in this struggle, they are never miserable, but they show an obstinate character and do not give up. And this proves once again that they ...

        This only proves that they are rare sheep, since all the time they were independent they fought only with themselves and with their economy.
        By and large, they have shown the whole world a vivid example of how you can chop off the head of a chicken that laid the golden eggs for them.
      3. +2
        1 August 2021 10: 47
        As the saying goes: The grave will fix the humpbacked one. I'm talking about these stubborn ones. Let's wait and see.
    2. +7
      1 August 2021 08: 08
      This is a diagnosis
      Despite the announcement of a "war" with the Russian gas pipeline, Vitrenko admitted that Ukraine needs to negotiate with Gazprom.

      In which ward do we have a prosecutor? ©
      1. +12
        1 August 2021 08: 49
        Quote: Popandos
        This is a diagnosis
        Despite the announcement of a "war" with the Russian gas pipeline, Vitrenko admitted that Ukraine needs to negotiate with Gazprom.

        In which ward do we have a prosecutor? ©

        So are the Europeans from the same campaign! "You give us gas, but through Ukraine too, otherwise we will be offended."
        And if in winter the gas is cut off for you, on all gas pipelines, then what will you sing about ?! Fines?
        And here's a vegetable for you!
        1. +2
          1 August 2021 08: 55
          Europeans, they are all such two-faced anuses, so the neighbors must meet the standards.
      2. +2
        1 August 2021 10: 44
        Gazprom and the Russian Federation should isolate themselves from these would-be partners.
    3. +12
      1 August 2021 08: 10
      The Ukrainian authorities will "fight" until the end of ... Russian transit.
    4. +4
      1 August 2021 08: 10
      Quote: seti
      Tired of listening to the poor

      Do they need to say something? So they are wailing. Nobody is responsible for the bazaar there. So they got carried away.
    5. +14
      1 August 2021 08: 18
      Quote: seti
      Already tired of listening to the poor.

      =======
      I wonder who is "minus"? I suppose the "potheads" woke up!
      Something of them has been spreading here immeasurably lately ...
      1. +4
        1 August 2021 18: 01
        Here they have a serious "struggle with the agrEsorom")))))))))))))))
    6. +7
      1 August 2021 10: 57
      Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"

      And, you can ask our commercial and financial government when they will take effective measures and stop at least feeding the crazed fighters?
  2. +14
    1 August 2021 07: 53
    Kiev will continue to fight the Russian gas pipeline "Nord Stream-2"
    Here are the restless ones.
    It should be noted that such statements have been heard more than once and will continue until the gas pipeline starts operating.
    So it is, then the "struggle" will end by itself. Let's wait.
    1. +13
      1 August 2021 08: 02
      So let them declare war on Russian gas from Putin and proudly refuse it, at the same time blocking transit to Europe! All freeloaders worry that with the opening of JV 2 the feeder will be closed for them.
      1. +8
        1 August 2021 08: 12
        hi Are you laughing? They have already been 7 years old, SEVEN years Karl has been "at war" with Russia and here is a bummer with a pipe.
  3. +17
    1 August 2021 07: 53
    Meanwhile, Germany threatened to block Nord Stream 2 if Russia again commits "aggressive actions directed against Ukraine."
    Yes, overlap!
    The last of the fascists continue to pursue a colonial policy towards Russia - "Germany has threatened ..."
    What is this, a rotten bazaar ?!
    Why not threaten Germany with a complete cutoff of gas, for three months, in memory of the Great Patriotic War!
    Is the agreement between the Hans and the Americans already allowing Russia to be threatened?
    What the hell?
    1. +7
      1 August 2021 08: 04
      That was expressed by the candidate for the place of Merkel, and she will soon leave, Laschet. These are normal words of a candidate and you shouldn't pay special attention to it, as candidates always only speak.
      1. +12
        1 August 2021 08: 07
        These words are not only his point of view, this is the position of the candidate for the post of chancellor of the country. And with this you need to do something. Gas is a "carrot" for Germany, but apparently a "stick" is also needed ...
        And Kiev?
        And Kiev has long deserved a gradual reduction in the transit of Russian gas through its territory to zero, no matter what they say to us about brotherhood between peoples.
        Among the White Guards, Vlasov and Bandera there were also solid brothers.
        1. +2
          1 August 2021 08: 14
          Yes. I have already indicated that he is a candidate for the post of Merkel. And you repeat after me))
          ..
          And gas for Germany is not a carrot, it is air for its industry. This is, if you like, "cheap" air. And they need it, despite the fact that there is nowhere else to take it.
          1. +6
            1 August 2021 08: 16
            So, let them "breathe" and not show off.
            1. +1
              1 August 2021 08: 24
              If they were showing off, then SP2 would have died without starting. But they are building it.
        2. +3
          1 August 2021 08: 51
          And Kiev has long deserved a phased reduction in the transit of Russian gas through its territory to zero.

          What for? Just reduce the project to a commercially viable one .. If they offer transit prices lower than those for the Nord Streams, it is possible to pump some volumes. Only now, Tsegabon people won't be able to make money in this situation .. Purely to support the pants. And I think - they themselves will cheerfully ditch their pipe, it's time to capitalize on it a long time ago, but it's a pittance of it ...
          1. +4
            1 August 2021 08: 56
            The commercially viable price for gas pumping through Ukraine for Russia should be no more than the price of pumping through SP-2. Tiki like that. And let them support their trousers as they wish. lol
            1. -1
              1 August 2021 12: 08
              Commercially profitable for Russia the price of gas pumping through Ukraine should be no more than the price of pumping through SP-2.

              Yes, they are so advocating for transit through their territory, because they shamelessly steal gas from the pipe, and on this they support the existence of their state. When the transit of gas through Ukraine stops, then there will be nothing to steal.
              Hence the dancing with a tambourine around the Nord Stream -2)))
          2. +2
            1 August 2021 11: 14
            Quote: paul3390
            They will offer transit prices lower than those for the Nord Streams - some volumes can be pumped.

            Alternatively, the price for pumping should be included in the price of gas on the other side of the pipe (to the end consumer), and let the consumer choose whether to take the cheap one with SP-2 or the road that passed through Ukraine.
          3. 0
            1 August 2021 18: 04
            Quote: paul3390
            They will offer transit prices lower than those for Nord Streams

            And let the ecology be leveled as well, they calculated "The carbon footprint of gas supplies via Nord Stream 2 will be 5,6 times lower than that of the route through Ukraine", otherwise they will take and introduce some taxes on the carbon footprint
        3. +1
          1 August 2021 10: 55
          A candidate, he is a candidate. Therefore, he must carry nonsense for voters. Whether he will be chancellor is still a question. But if he will be, so German industrialists will quickly explain on their fingers that gas is really needed.
          1. 0
            2 August 2021 00: 08
            Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky
            A candidate, he is a candidate. Therefore, he must carry nonsense for voters. Whether he will be chancellor is still a question. But if he will be, so German industrialists will quickly explain on their fingers that gas is really needed.


            There are realities of life for chatter.
            Gazprom has been providing gas supplies for a long time in accordance with the minimum contractual obligations. As a result, gas reserves in UGS facilities in the EU are at a minimum, the price for gas supplied by Gazprom has grown to $ 500.
            The volumes are small but the price is very high. Liquefied gas goes to Asia.
            For some reason, the US does not supply liquefied gas to the EU. Germany has real prospects for freezing this winter.

            The solution to the issue lies somewhere in the region, to carry out the certification of SP2 quickly, to cancel any crap about the third energy package for it, then Gazprom will begin an intensive supply of additional volumes.
            Then the Germans will not freeze.

            When alternative flows to the pipe are operating at full capacity, the issue with the Ukrainian pipe disappears automatically.

            The only thing until the age of 24 will be pumped through Ukraine the minimum that was agreed upon earlier.

            After 24 years, Gazprom cannot somehow be forced to pump gas through Ukraine, all supplies to all EU countries can be provided through other gas pipelines.

            But Germany guaranteed) gas supplies through Ukraine after 24 years. There is a moment, Russia has filed several lawsuits with the ECHR and apparently there will be several more. If the Germans are not stupid, then we need to seize on this and declare 404 sanctions based on these claims against Ukraine. Then they do not have to think about how to fulfill their guarantees and where to get gas for the pipe coming out.
    2. +5
      1 August 2021 08: 30
      Quote: prior
      Meanwhile, Germany threatened to block Nord Stream 2 if Russia again commits "aggressive actions directed against Ukraine."
      Yes, overlap!

      =========
      Vlad! Yes, this is all - verbal chatter! Let them try to "block" the same Armin Lashet "drown in the toilet", the very next day!
      1. +8
        1 August 2021 08: 34
        It would be significant. Submitted headlines.
        "For verbal" diarrhea "the candidate for Chancellor of Germany Armin Lashet was drowned in the toilet." good
        1. +1
          1 August 2021 12: 09
          Quote: prior
          It would be significant. Submitted headlines.
          "For verbal" diarrhea "the candidate for Chancellor of Germany Armin Lashet was drowned in the toilet." good

          =======
          good There are no words, only "expressions"! drinks
    3. +6
      1 August 2021 08: 46
      Why not threaten Germany with a complete cutoff of gas, for three months, in memory of the Great Patriotic War!

      What for? They are like themselves .. Well, look - if there is so-called aggression, then gas will definitely not go through Tsegabonia. And in this situation, this doychelone threatens to block the streams as well. Immediately a question - where are they going to get gas? Yes, his own burghers will hang on the first aspen next winter! Brook is empty, banging before the elections ..
      1. 0
        1 August 2021 12: 14
        Quote: paul3390
        Immediately a question - where are they going to get gas?

        ======
        How is it where? In Slovakia, of course ( tongue ) They have natural gas deposits there - just "zashibis" - there is nowhere to go !!! lol
    4. +5
      1 August 2021 08: 48
      Quote: prior
      Meanwhile, Germany threatened to block Nord Stream 2 if Russia again commits "aggressive actions directed against Ukraine."
      Yes, overlap!
      The last of the fascists continue to pursue a colonial policy towards Russia - "Germany has threatened ..."
      What is this, a rotten bazaar ?!
      Why not threaten Germany with a complete cutoff of gas, for three months, in memory of the Great Patriotic War!
      Is the agreement between the Hans and the Americans already allowing Russia to be threatened?
      What the hell?

      It is Armin Laschet who continues to demonstrate his stupidity. Either at a funeral (in fact) meeting, under the words of the President of Germany, he will laugh. That statement on the SP-2 will be overwhelmed.
      His eggs will be cut off by their own - the Germans, Austrians, French, Dutch, who have invested billions of euros there.
      1. +4
        1 August 2021 08: 51
        It is a pity that this "stupidity" climbs and can creep into the chancellors of such an important country as Germany.
        I would very much like the chatters to bear due responsibility for empty chatter.
        1. 0
          1 August 2021 20: 20
          Quote: prior
          It is a pity that this "stupidity" climbs and can creep into the chancellors of such an important country as Germany.
          I would very much like the chatters to bear due responsibility for empty chatter.

          Unfortunately, the alternative to this gull is even worse there.
          And here at least there is a hope that he will be led to the senses of his parteigenossen smile
          1. 0
            2 August 2021 00: 25
            Quote: den3080
            Quote: prior
            It is a pity that this "stupidity" climbs and can creep into the chancellors of such an important country as Germany.
            I would very much like the chatters to bear due responsibility for empty chatter.

            Unfortunately, the alternative to this gull is even worse there.
            And here at least there is a hope that he will be led to the senses of his parteigenossen smile


            One would assume that such nonsense tryndit to win back the theses from competitors, the green ones. But those lecturers clearly cannot buy one cheaply. Comes out to the chancellors will crawl through. Plus, the government will turn out to be green, they will also have to give back portfolios. In short, with Germany, our enchanting tent awaits after the elections.
    5. +4
      1 August 2021 08: 57
      hi also thought about it, so the United States and Germany have agreed ?! And no one is going to ask Russia?
      1. +3
        1 August 2021 10: 10
        Naturally we agreed. Here a lot depends on Gazprom's lawyers, on how professionally they draw up contracts for the supply and pumping of gas, taking into account all possible obstacles and compensations for these obstacles. This is very important in the current conditions. Unfortunately, as experience shows, it is with the correct drafting of foreign contracts and the ability to insist on our own terms that we are very, very bad.
        1. +1
          2 August 2021 00: 30
          Quote: Cat Kuzya
          Naturally we agreed. Here a lot depends on Gazprom's lawyers, on how professionally they draw up contracts for the supply and pumping of gas, taking into account all possible obstacles and compensations for these obstacles. This is very important in the current conditions. Unfortunately, as experience shows, it is with the correct drafting of foreign contracts and the ability to insist on our own terms that we are very, very bad.


          It doesn't matter what will be written in the contract under all the points on many sheets. All this is nullified by the envisaged dispute resolution in European arbitration. You can organize a dispute out of the blue and put on Gazprom a couple of lards, or ten. What's the difference how much debt to hang on a sucker, any number can be named.
    6. +2
      1 August 2021 09: 41
      Quote: prior
      Meanwhile, Germany threatened to block Nord Stream 2 if Russia again commits "aggressive actions directed against Ukraine."
      Yes, overlap!
      The last of the fascists continue to pursue a colonial policy towards Russia - "Germany has threatened ..."
      What is this, a rotten bazaar ?!
      Why not threaten Germany with a complete cutoff of gas, for three months, in memory of the Great Patriotic War!
      Is the agreement between the Hans and the Americans already allowing Russia to be threatened?
      What the hell?

      This crap is meant for the "outside" public.
      German business has a strong influence on the government, and therefore Armin Laschet, if elected to the post of chancellor, will certainly not want to limit himself to one term in office. Considering that the capacity of the onshore extension of SP-2 "Eugal" has already been redeemed by 80% for 17 years ahead (the remaining 20% ​​cannot be redeemed only due to the gas doctrine of the EU's third energy package), one must think that the business that has invested money in the project is waiting for very little, namely filling the pipe with Russian gas. Now this part of the gas pipeline is already in operation and partially pumps the volumes of gas supplied through the SP-1, taking them out of the action of all kinds of obstacles erected by Brussels and the United States.
      It is unlikely that a person will be admitted to the post of Chancellor of Germany who, in idiocy, is comparable to the Ukrainian presidents and will equally zealously undermine the economy of his country.
      1. +1
        1 August 2021 09: 55
        I agree with you.
        Gazprom has long been a national treasure of Germany.
        And Germany should take care of it like the apple of its eye, without looking back either at the United States or even more so at Ukraine.
        1. 0
          1 August 2021 10: 27
          Unfortunately, you once again underestimate the political component in modern Germany in its economic relations with Russia. And if we talk about Germany's relations with the United States and "obedience" to orders from overseas, then somehow, you completely forgot about the "Chancellor Pact ". wink
          1. +1
            1 August 2021 10: 59
            But one should not overestimate the "Chancellor Pact", otherwise the SP-2 would have been stopped long ago and the US-FRG agreements would not have been required, the question is that Merkel is a "heavyweight", but her successors ...
            1. +2
              1 August 2021 15: 28
              Well, that's how to say it. Americans know how to divide functions - they do something themselves, something with the hands of satellites. If we talk about the "Chancellor Pact", then they have already used it to force Germany to accept more than a million so-called "Arab refugees", but in fact, a proxy with families whom the Americans promised "cover" after doing work for the "master", but who did not wanted to see in their states. Now the Fritzes are being crushed through the Poles and Belgians and through the "green parties". Fritz will be crushed. Moreover, this will be done beautifully and the cynical Germans will be forced to admit the restrictions on sp-2 and these restrictions will be hung on Russia, such as it was not we who introduced the restrictions. It is Russia that is to blame for these restrictions. Moreover, Merkel herself has already said that she may have to sacrifice something, since, they say: "You have to pay for freedom." I would not rely on the Germans, from the word "in general."
              1. 0
                1 August 2021 17: 44
                Quote: Kuzya the Cat
                sp-2 and these restrictions will hang on Russia, like it was not we who introduced the restrictions

                Any restrictions are a double-edged sword ... at the heart of everything, on the one hand, there is a task to restrict the flow of foreign currency to Russia, but on the other hand, and what to replace the drops in supplies ... now SP-2 does not work, but gas supplies are also in Europe they admit that all contractual obligations are fulfilled, but at the same time prices ... someone cannot increase their supplies (like the Norwegians), someone is chasing a more attractive price (LNG sellers) ... if the Germans introduce restrictions, then they should have guarantees of replacement of volumes ... but will they have them ... and again if they limit gas supplies, that is, without violating any agreements and not giving work to lawyers, go to purely contractual supplies ( in any contract the minimum volume of supplies is spelled out) ... here is a political decision, there will be less earnings in foreign currency, but prices in Europe may not please the buyer ...
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    1. 0
      1 August 2021 08: 37
      Quote: Kosmopolit
      Who is interested in skakuas vyseurs? Dog breshet

      ========
      Do not offend the dogs! They are very SMART !!! And there is no need to compare them with ..... (well, in general, "it is clear with whom") - they may be offended !!! hi
  5. +4
    1 August 2021 08: 01
    Kapets are allegedly fighting with us and at the same time they are trying with all their might to leave the transit of our gas. Clowns.
    1. +3
      1 August 2021 09: 00
      I would not be surprised if you need to save your 5 points, they and Putin's article that we are one people will remember and will cause what they say V. V. P. himself promised forgiveness of all sins.
      1. +1
        1 August 2021 09: 46
        I hope that this time the forgiveness of all sins will take place only after public repentance at Execution Ground and cleansing sacrifices.
  6. +6
    1 August 2021 08: 03
    The pigs splashing in the mud are also sure that they are fighting against the kebabs ..
  7. +1
    1 August 2021 08: 15
    I'm not a psychologist, but you can draw conclusions from a photo about a person, and I get them not comforting for the future of neighbors.
    Exclusively my opinion based on my own experience.
  8. +11
    1 August 2021 08: 20
    Ukroshumer simply brilliantly got out of the uncomfortable story with the Crimean bridge. They added it to Wikipedia in the "Bridges of Ukraine" section. Zrada turned into a victory. Even Goebbels would not have thought of this, but this is normal ... There are no great construction projects and victories, come up with them! Not even able to come up with, just steal! At this rate, JV 2 will be declared Ukrainian!
    1. +4
      1 August 2021 08: 34
      Yes, the whole country is invented, starting from Adam and Eve, ending with the Mariners with the Sumerians.
    2. +1
      1 August 2021 09: 02
      And that they already demanded a part of the SP-2 share, imagine what if they get wink then it will be so.
    3. 0
      1 August 2021 10: 41
      It's just that Goebels did not know the magic word "h.h.h, ly"
  9. +3
    1 August 2021 08: 29
    It should be noted that such statements have been heard more than once and will continue until the gas pipeline starts operating.


    Political fuss and nothing more ...
    1. +2
      1 August 2021 08: 36

      cniza (Victor)
      Today, 08: 29
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      It should be noted that such statements have been heard more than once and will continue until the gas pipeline starts operating.


      Political fuss and nothing more ...
      They have no politics. The Ukronatsiks have only one thing - to harm the Russian Federation, please the Merikatos, and then, if possible, put them in their own pockets.
      1. +2
        1 August 2021 11: 08
        I'm not talking about Kiev, I'm talking about the Germans ...
        1. +2
          1 August 2021 11: 56

          cniza (Victor)
          Today, 11: 08

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          I'm not talking about Kiev, I'm talking about the Germans ...
          Sorry, I did not understand what I mean about the Germans. hi
      2. +4
        1 August 2021 11: 12
        Quote: aszzz888

        cniza (Victor)
        Today, 08: 29
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        It should be noted that such statements have been heard more than once and will continue until the gas pipeline starts operating.


        Political fuss and nothing more ...
        They have no politics. The Ukronatsiks have only one thing - to harm the Russian Federation, please the Merikatos, and then, if possible, put them in their own pockets.


        Quote: cniza
        Political fuss and nothing more


        hi
        Not everything is measured by money alone.
        I suppose you can still play with the Germans in financial mutual benefit, but with the post-Soviet so-called. sometimes it is advisable for states to apply financially disadvantageous sanctions.
        1. +1
          1 August 2021 11: 58

          Terenin (Gennady)
          Today, 11: 12

          hi
          .... Not everything is measured by money alone.
          I suppose you can still play with the Germans in financial mutual benefit, but with the post-Soviet so-called. sometimes it is advisable for states to apply financially disadvantageous sanctions.
          Definitely. Even the same tribals were pinched a little - they immediately howled. Our brothers), the campaign is still ahead, especially after the launch of the SP-2.
        2. +2
          1 August 2021 11: 58
          hi

          The United States will do everything so that we do not cooperate with Germany, otherwise it will be a quick end and the point is not at all in JV 2, but in cooperation ...
  10. +4
    1 August 2021 08: 29
    On European gas hubs, the price has already reached $ 481 per 1000 cubic meters, up to 800 is still far away. There is still time. Go ahead and with the song! good
    1. +3
      1 August 2021 09: 05
      I understand that you are proposing to complete the construction of the SP-2, put it into operation, and open the crank a little bit. Until the gas price reaches $ 800-1000? lol
      I am for ! good
      1. +9
        1 August 2021 09: 19
        This is how Gazprom operates. Europe needs gas to fill storage facilities. They have money and a desire to increase pumping capacity. Previously, Gazprom always went to meet them, but now they are not in any way. Obieiyy is strictly under the contract. The Poles have fallen, their Baltic Pipka is calculated for 10 billion, will receive only 2,5 billion Plus the Americans cannot cope with LNG. One contract with the Americans has already been canceled. A second was concluded, and that is not sweet. And December is already on the nose, Gazprom through Poland will pump volumes strictly under the contract. They will kick up and will buy our gas from Germany, with a German extra charge for balobolstvo. So before the launch of JV 2, we will not see it yet. And the most important thing is business and no politics.
  11. +2
    1 August 2021 08: 34
    Vitrenko admitted that Ukraine would no longer be able to stop the construction of the gas pipeline, but it is quite possible to prevent its launch.

    nor eat, so fed up. " angry
  12. +2
    1 August 2021 08: 43
    Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"
    They don't know how to build, create, and the goal in life, even for horses, should be ... they will ride.
    1. +4
      1 August 2021 09: 09

      rocket757 (Victor)
      Today, 08: 43
      +1
      Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"
      They don't know how to build, create, and the goal in life, even for horses, should be ... will skateb.
      Routine! laughing
      1. +1
        1 August 2021 09: 12
        Trying to say nonsense with a clever air ... you can try, maybe the skakuasses will not notice .... busy with the races.
        1. +3
          1 August 2021 11: 11
          They will jump to the last and shout that we will stop S.P. 2 ...
          1. +2
            1 August 2021 11: 27
            A worked-out version ... something else needs to be invented, untwisted ... it is necessary to think and money. There is nothing to think with, sorry for the attendants ...
            1. +3
              1 August 2021 11: 37
              There are only Wishlist left, so they are wondering ...
              1. +1
                1 August 2021 16: 17
                Do you have a dummy? Apparently, there are babosiks stacking, each in their own bins ...
                1. +2
                  1 August 2021 17: 06
                  Someone, yes, successfully collects babosiki up to sebe ...
                  1. +1
                    1 August 2021 17: 47
                    Who is at the helm, who protects, he has! The rest of the others have the first listed.
                    Naturally, everything is as usual.
                    1. +2
                      1 August 2021 18: 20
                      Well, yes, everyone has their own clearing and he processes it ...
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2021 18: 23
                        No, no, a clearing with juicy "greens", only for the "elite" and next to them, who were worn out ... by the rest of the ditches and gullies.
                        Again, everything is as usual!
                      2. +2
                        1 August 2021 18: 26
                        The rest cannot even look in that direction ...
    2. +2
      1 August 2021 11: 10
      Quote: rocket757
      Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"
      They don't know how to build, create, and the goal in life, even for horses, should be ... they will ride.


      Good time! hi

      They have no desire to build and create something, they can only steal and destroy ...
      1. +2
        1 August 2021 11: 30
        Welcome soldier
        Such a contingent in power they have gathered .... arrogant, thieving, lazy.
        A complete kirdyk, in the end it shines for them ... higher then "their" chop off and fade away, and the skakuas only have to jump until they drop.
        1. +2
          1 August 2021 11: 36
          Yes, and there is no history of statehood, hence the complete discord and misunderstanding of how and what to do, but only to steal ...
          1. +1
            1 August 2021 16: 16
            There is no history, so no one ever had .... people work and create states and its history.
            This is not the case, alas for them.
            1. +2
              1 August 2021 17: 05
              This is their second attempt and it looks like it will also end soon ...
              1. +1
                1 August 2021 17: 45
                The old nationalist rake ... when they only want to leave on their own Wishlist, the appropriate helmsmen and choose ... a standard situation, in general.
                It is necessary to create the state, and not just want ... for this very thing, and they will get a lot of joy, a cart and a small cart.
                1. +1
                  1 August 2021 18: 22
                  It takes a lot of work to create a state, and they want to get it either from the United States or from Europe, so they expect that everything will be done for them ...
  13. +2
    1 August 2021 08: 44
    He does not know how to tie a tie, but struggles.
    1. +1
      1 August 2021 09: 08

      iouris (iouris)
      Today, 08: 44
      0
      He does not know how to tie a tie, but struggles.
      Others will do it for him. Hemp will be tied. The knot is beautiful, and the result is positive. bully
  14. -5
    1 August 2021 08: 49
    How much crap can you advertise for this stream? Do you want to discuss the tax manner, when the Russians pay more than the Germans for their gas? Even your regular bots have no arguments for this theft and sale of the Motherland. No topic, no discussion. Famously.
    1. -1
      1 August 2021 09: 05
      hi Hypatius and he is his own ??? Gas and oil, timber and all that is called natural resources have been owned by private companies since 91, this is the situation.
      1. -4
        1 August 2021 09: 15
        This is, on the one hand, such an alignment. On the other hand: Public property is not subject to alienation. Theft on an especially large scale - execution. I, if cho, for the second option. I speak as a bearer of power who did not "give his vote" to anyone from the occupation administration.
        1. +1
          1 August 2021 09: 23
          Following your logic, UKria will remain without population. They have stealing in their blood.
          1. 0
            1 August 2021 09: 50
            Sorry, but I misunderstood your point. Please unfold it. I was here, I was talking about the fundamental principles of man - the right of Property. Like, I did not give it (this property) to anyone and did not give it away. Ah, I didn’t understand your thought. Can I use human language ?.
            1. -1
              1 August 2021 10: 39
              Of course. Please: take a look at the recent history of Ukraine (and as M. Zhvanetsky said) and you will understand how I was right.
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        2. 0
          2 August 2021 06: 03
          Quote: Hypatius
          Public property is not subject to alienation. Theft on an especially large scale - execution.

          And who in the USSR was shot for tanks delivered to Angola or for the Aswan Dam or for helicopters to Grenada? Have the people's property been taken out, have not received the money or have not received it to the end?
          Debts on loans issued by the USSR - which then Yeltsin and Putin wrote off?
          Who was shot in the USSR for squandering the people's property?
          Or "This is another !!" ??? !!!!!
      2. +5
        1 August 2021 11: 18
        Quote: Murmur 55
        hi Hypatius and he is his own ??? Gas and oil, timber and all that is called natural resources have been owned by private companies since 91, this is the situation.

        Private companies are a worldwide practice. Not going anywhere. It is necessary to really monitor the implementation of the laws by these companies and with the obligatory application of sanctions for their violations, and many will themselves refuse to conduct the so-called. robbery business.
        Or they should conduct it for free, with the number of the detachment sewn over the left pocket of the robe.
  15. 0
    1 August 2021 08: 55
    The German candidate said all this in order to temporarily calm the UWB (now promise everything, after the elections we will figure it out), and the Ukrainian fly, as it were, does not hit the glass, the window will not break.
    1. +1
      1 August 2021 09: 06

      Prisoner (Ayrat)
      Today, 08: 55
      0
      The German candidate said all this in order to temporarily calm the UWB (now promise everything, after the elections we will figure it out), and the Ukrainian fly, as it were, would not hit the glass, the window would not break.

      "Two flies are flying along the route Kuyev-Odessa.
      first fly - Ahead glass!
      the second - I see!
      Bam, bam !! " laughing
  16. +5
    1 August 2021 08: 59
    ***
    It's time to switch to fight the Gulf Stream-
    - It flows somewhere past Ukraine ...
    ***
    1. +1
      1 August 2021 09: 02

      Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov (Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov)
      Today, 08: 59
      0
      ***
      It's time to switch to fight the Gulf Stream-
      - It flows somewhere past Ukraine ...
      ***
      The Gulf Stream was also warmed by the ancient copals of the Black Sea. wink
      1. +1
        1 August 2021 10: 32
        The Gulf Stream restaurant on Bauman Street in Murmansk used to be so warm on polar winter evenings. It may not be necessary to deal with golf streams. Although I have nothing against the Gulf Stream business jet. drinks
  17. +3
    1 August 2021 09: 01
    Meanwhile, Germany threatened to shut down Nord Stream 2 ...
    I wonder how long he can hold out if he "takes it and covers it up"! We didn’t pull his tongue.
  18. +1
    1 August 2021 09: 03
    Apparently what is happening Kiev is ready to continue the struggle with its own people to the stop, what they order, they will do ...
  19. HAM
    +1
    1 August 2021 09: 09
    Good Grandfather Frost will come, and he will ask Europe: "Is the girl warm to you, is the blue warm to you ??" ("Frost" @)
    After all, even in Ukraine, they clearly understand that in the absence (or minimal) transit, no one will give them "European" gas, and there will be nowhere to steal ..... so they are "fighting" .....
    1. 0
      1 August 2021 10: 36
      They generally have grief, in winter Santa Claus comes in grief in Gazprom's colors, in summer the Snow Maiden comes in a bikini again in Gazprom's colors. lol
  20. 0
    1 August 2021 09: 21
    It will be the happiest day for us, the day when the reservation "Ukraine" will disappear from the world map. The farmers are tired of their stupidity and stupidity.
  21. +1
    1 August 2021 09: 27
    Meanwhile, Germany threatened to block Nord Stream 2 if Russia again commits "aggressive actions directed against Ukraine."

    This insanity begins to pall. There are people in the Russian Gazprom (if it is considered Russian) and in the Russian Foreign Ministry who are able to formulate the thesis that Russia can stop gas supplies through the Ukrainian GTS after the end of the contract, due to the ultimatum form of imposing gas volumes and prices and the technical condition of the GTS, not allowing to keep records of these deliveries?
  22. +2
    1 August 2021 09: 27
    Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"

    What? Will you saw through the pipe? belay
  23. +2
    1 August 2021 09: 35
    404 country misunderstanding.
  24. +1
    1 August 2021 09: 39
    head of the Ukrainian "Naftogaz" Yuriy Vitrenko
    When this "country" is full of such windy ones, it is not surprising that it (the "country") is sliding into the abyss.
    Candidate for Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany Armin Laschet
    Germany also has its horses, who are ready to support the Bandera regime by any means (at least in words) to the detriment of their country.
  25. 0
    1 August 2021 10: 15
    Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"

    For this, the Hammer mortar was modernized.
  26. 0
    1 August 2021 10: 21
    "Germany threatened to shut down Nord Stream 2 if Russia again commits" aggressive actions against Ukraine. "
    cool, they will cut off the gas for themselves)))))))))))))))))))))))
  27. AB
    -3
    1 August 2021 11: 07
    No, well, I can't understand that this is how we, in Russia, are all excited about SP2. Will they drive gas through SP2 or not, what will change in our pocket? Ukraine is fed, so we will continue to feed, according to Putin, they are our blood relatives, which Russia needs to forgive and kiss in the ass. Since it is the rulers in Ukraine that are bad, and the people, well, simply do not understand this. The question arises, and in the LPR and DPR the civilian population is killed by the rulers or ordinary citizens of the Independent, serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Well, God bless her, with Ukraine, let's return to SP2. Maybe we, who do not own Gazprom shares, will live better? Of course not. Better will live those who now live very well sitting on a pipe. Maybe Gazprom will pay more taxes? Maybe there will be a little, but most likely not, there will be thousands of reasons for reducing deductions. Maybe the prestige of the state in the world will grow? Well, this is generally bullshit. As they spread rot to Russia, they will continue. At all the spitting and slap in the face, our government can only wag its finger and wipe it off. So, in my opinion, whether the gas will go towards Europe or not, the ordinary population of Russia does not care. Better and richer we will not heal ...
  28. +8
    1 August 2021 11: 24
    Like someone or not, or someone on the side. But SP-2 will work.
    It won't get any worse for us.
  29. +1
    1 August 2021 11: 37
    "According to him, Kiev needs to prove that the operator of Nord Stream 2 is controlled by Gazprom and Putin. Thus, it will be established that the production and transportation of gas is carried out by one company or person, and this is prohibited by European legislation." - so a double-edged sword and a second end can hurt the Ukrainians, the operator of gas pipelines and the gas producer is the same, both for Germany and for Ukraine. If Vitrenko does not understand this, then the Europeans can explain it to him. And with the third energy package, everything is not so simple, it imposes restrictions only on pumping through Opal, the rest of the gas pipelines go to Germany and local networks are already distributing there, and what such a 50% limitation on pumping through Opal can be easily calculated, its throughput capacity is 36 billion cubic meters of gas per year.
  30. +1
    1 August 2021 12: 13
    I read the comments and feel that I returned in 2017-18))
    Resource patriots shouted the same thing ..
    Then the truth was a new contract with Ukraine and 3 billion paid by Gasprom to Naftogaz ... Resource patriots then became despondent and began to look for enemies of the people in the leadership of Gazprom ..
    But here the wounds of the soul tightened up and the resourced patriots are again ready to kiss Miller in all places.
    if only he sold more gas to all Gayrop Russophobes
  31. 0
    1 August 2021 12: 24
    In spite of everything, the non-native is waging an irreconcilable struggle with Russia. For any reason, lizhba was worse. In spite of everything, Russia is confused fraternizing .... The question arises - is this masochism ??? That's how to fraternize .... Or are there tougher ways ???? We have a water blockade - we are gas, electricity, fuel, bacon .... We are banned from the Russian language - we are hugging ????
  32. 0
    1 August 2021 13: 26
    Kiev intends to continue the fight against the "Nord Stream-2"


    How? Fart steam laughing

    The valve is with us, not among the Sumerians)))
    1. -3
      1 August 2021 13: 48
      Not among the Sumerians, yes .. But not the fact that we have ..
  33. 0
    1 August 2021 14: 59
    It's your own fault. It was necessary to remove them from the pipe already in 1992. But everyone was paid into their pockets and everyone was happy. And I would have razed Naftogaz to the ground a long time ago. Even after the first lawsuit ..
  34. 0
    1 August 2021 15: 12
    There, sustained in power transmission lines
    Islyamov's combat swimmers, or whatever the devil was called, is.
  35. 0
    1 August 2021 16: 24
    As soon as the gas goes through the pipes and at least a couple of German burghers start using it, none of those in power in Germany can not only stop it, but even think about it .. hi
  36. 0
    1 August 2021 16: 47
    Strange things are happening: on the one hand, they spoil Russia, and on the other, they demand that transit go through them ... Some kind of madness!
  37. 0
    1 August 2021 19: 33
    who would have doubted ...) You still have time to send a fleet to the Baltic Sea drinks
  38. 0
    1 August 2021 19: 46
    This is what Vitrenko will turn out to be?
    Tell me, who is strong in physiognomy - what does (what is hinting at) mean (what is hinted at) swelling of the lower edge of the upper eyelids? I have an association (that's all) with Down's disease. Maybe it just seemed to me? If so, then let ... go on!
    I noticed something similar among representatives of one ethnic group (I won't say which one, but there are many of them in Ukraine). These are still found among the "rodents".
  39. -1
    1 August 2021 21: 06
    And the navels of the rogulyas will not be untied, how many were willing to stop this project? And the project is already ready and the launch is expected by the end of the year.