Military Review

Roland Freisler. Devil's judge

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1933 was a good year for German lawyers. Previously, jobs were scarce due to the global economic crisis. Positions have now become available in connection with the forced retirement or emigration of Jewish, liberal or social democratic civil servants, judges and lawyers. New jobs also appeared in many organizations created by the National Socialist Party or significantly increased in size (in the SS alone in 1938 there were 3000 lawyers).


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One of those who benefited from the Nazis' rise to power was lawyer Roland Freisler, a party member since 1925, when the National Socialists were a small party representing 3% of voters in parliament. He was rare in his profession because of his early party membership and also because his resume included a short stint in the Communist Party.

Born in 1893, he interrupted his legal education to volunteer in the army in 1914, and was captured by the Russians in 1915. He spoke Russian fluently and when the POW camp became self-governing after the Brest Peace in the spring of 1918, he was promoted to commissar. Whether he received this position for purely administrative purposes or for reasons of conviction is unknown.

In any case, while the other prisoners of war returned, he remained in Soviet Russia until 1920, and only then returned to Germany to continue his legal education, becoming a Doctor of Law in 1922, and began working as a lawyer in Kassel in 1924. ... He became an aggressive advocate for accused Nazi party members (accusations of violence and related crimes were fairly common). He was also a member of the city council.

Freisler became a member of parliament (Reichstag) in 1933. He became responsible for personnel in the Prussian Ministry of Justice, ensuring that civil servants were properly “matched” to the National Socialist regime (the Social Democrats ruled Prussia for a long time, so there was a lot of work to do). Freisler then moved to the position of Secretary of State in the Department of Justice, dealing with law writing and legal theory. He was very productive, paid close attention to the demands of the Nazi state and the wishes of Hitler, ignored all ethical considerations and violated legal principles.

The secretary of state campaigned for laws guaranteeing race separation and punishing interracial sexual relations, using Jim Crow's racist American laws as an example. He also defined "murder", which is still used in German criminal law, and introduced the death penalty for minors. Representing the Justice Department, he attended the infamous Wannsee conference to agree on bureaucratic responsibilities for the deportation (and implicit extermination) of Jews.

Despite all these efforts, his career came to a standstill. He was not popular and his brother's behavior also ruined his career. Oswald Freisler, two years younger than Roland, was also a National Socialist and worked with his brother in Kassel. In 1933, he accompanied Roland to Berlin, often defending people from the National Socialists while wearing a party badge.

His success led to his expulsion from the party in 1937, and in 1939, Oswald allegedly committed suicide.

Then, in 1942, Roland Freisler finally got a promotion - he became president of the Volksgerichshof (people's court), which allowed him to establish his personal kingdom of terror.

People's Court


The creation of a court with special rights and limited rights for the defendants was an old NSDAP requirement, already included in their 1920 party program. The immediate reason for its creation was the trial against the arsonists of the Reichstag in 1933. Led by Judge Richard Bünger, the trial ended in a public relations failure. The main arsonist - Marinus van der Lubbe - was caught in the act and confessed, but insisted that he acted alone. However, the prosecution insisted on a communist conspiracy. Marinus van der Lubbe was sentenced to death on the basis of a hastily passed law. Nevertheless, although the court upheld the communist conspiracy thesis, three of the accused were acquitted.

At the national and international levels, the impression was that the National Socialists themselves started the fire, using Van der Lubbe's actions as cover. The leaders of the NSDAP wanted to avoid similar failures in the future and created the Volksgerichshof (people's court), which was initially responsible for considering all cases of high treason.

The duties of this court were expanded shortly after the outbreak of the war.

Under Freisler's leadership, this court turned into a killing machine. Between August 1942 and his death in February 1945, he handed down 2600 death sentences, more than half of all death sentences handed down by all branches of the Volksgerichtshof from its foundation in 1934 until its dissolution in 1945.

President of the People's Court


Freisler pursued rapid, frightening processes that spread terror among the population. Even minor offenses were punishable by death.

Freisler also led trials against more serious "traitors" - most notably those against the White Rose (students who distributed anti-war leaflets) and the conspirators who planned to assassinate Hitler in 1944. He directed all these processes, disregarding the law, insulting and humiliating the defendants.

Even the Minister of Justice complained: “The verdict does not explain which laws led to the sentencing”, Worried about the dignity of the court and informed Freisler about rumors that everyone who was tried by his court was automatically sentenced to death.

Freisler was a true adherent of the Nazi ideology, a man who entered it early out of conviction, and not just to make a career or to save his skin.

He liked to humiliate and kill people almost regardless of their guilt. His reign of terror ended only with his death. On February 3, 1945, Freisler was killed in an Allied bombing raid.

PS


You can also read a short Article about the so-called "Eastern Legions", which were part of the Wehrmacht and fought against the USSR.
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  1. Hazarov
    Hazarov 9 August 2021 05: 59
    +6
    Judge of the III Reich! And what should such a judge be? What is the country, so is the court!
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 9 August 2021 07: 00
      +11
      Quote: Hazarov
      Judge of the III Reich! And what should such a judge be?

      The author did not elaborate on the beginning of his career:
      Reisler was not only a volunteer, but also fought bravely on the Russian front - he was awarded the Iron Cross 1, 2 degrees.
      Wounded, he was taken prisoner, learned Russian, after the thief joined the RKPb, spoke at rallies of captured Germans for their entry into the Red Army, was a commissar in the food detachment, served in the Cheka.

      After returning to Germany, he became one of the first members of the Nazi NSDAP.
      Nickname - "Bolshevik".

      Hitler said about him: "our Vyshinsky."

      Shot for the words "the war started in vain", "Hitler is sick", even said in the circle of family or colleagues. ..


      Grimaced at the trials, covered the defendants with the areal abuse, especially those who were thought to be in the case of the attempt on Hitler's life.


      He died right in the courthouse during the trial from a bomb fragment, which saved several people from the inevitable death sentence ...
      1. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 08: 06
        0
        Shot for the words "the war started in vain", "Hitler is sick", even said in the circle of family or colleagues. ..
        those. not only in the USSR "shot for jokes?"
        Hitler said about him: "our Vyshinsky"
        interesting. Can you read a reference? Or as usual? wink
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 9 August 2021 08: 54
          -2
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          those. not only in the USSR "were they shot for jokes?"

          you have a good example to follow and justify - Hitler’s Germany.
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          interesting. Can you read a reference?

          Deutsche Welle
          1. Region-25.rus
            Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 08: 59
            -5
            Hitler's Germany is a good example for you to follow and justify.
            Are you trying to hang me an article for propaganda and justification? wink what are "quotes" and when are they used in the course? As you say there - "ignorant" wink And to equate Stalin and Hitler is the lot of anti-Soviet wink And monuments to the Nazis like Krasnov are called upon to put on the federal channel if that. lol
            Deutsche Welle
            Awesome proof good I can do that too -
            Olgovich (to me) - "What is your evidence?" - I am "Pioneer Truth" good
            1. Region-25.rus
              Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 10: 20
              +6
              O! Olgovich's personal guard dragged cons laughing True eyes hurts? wink
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              1. Region-25.rus
                Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 11: 00
                +5
                There are no servants here, yes ..

                the provision of evidence (in normal people) rests with the approver wink
                it was YOU who compared and dragged the USSR to Hitler's Germany
                This is what YOU want to see (she came up with it herself, she was offended, she forgave herself) wink And with a sense of humor and the concept of "sarcasm" YOU are clearly not familiar. laughing
                it turns out you are claiming
                WHERE HAVE I APPROVED? wink I only suspect in your mind)))
                And by the way, it is you and others like you who constantly compare the labor camps (they worked there, and even received salaries) of the GULAG system camps with the concentration camps of extermination (even where the prisoners were employed in production) of Nazi Germany. Or not? wink Remember our discussion about one hero-submariner? Which, according to your statements (as usual, unsubstantiated) "rotted away in a concentration camp", and during the check it turned out that he was released ahead of schedule, and not from Solovki, but from an exiled settlement wink
                ps
                and for some time the link given (maybe learn how to properly conduct the debate at last wink ) Thank you)) Just don't start screaming that I'm somewhere "claimed that Hitler did not say this (comparison with Vyshinsky)" And then I know your "brother" - a liberal anti-Soviet. Do you like inventing and labeling wink
              2. Region-25.rus
                Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 11: 59
                +4
                alas, you cannot.
                I just provide links and photos on a relatively regular basis!)) And your
                alas, you cannot.
                resembles the behavior of a child who believes that if he denies everything then it is so laughing Who follows our cute conversations I think in the course, who, how much and what provides in the comments wink
          2. Fitter65
            Fitter65 9 August 2021 11: 44
            0
            Quote: Olgovich
            Hitler's Germany is a good example for you to follow and justify.

            Quote: Olgovich
            Hitler's Germany is a good example for you to follow and justify.
            But after all, not who did not condemn the people whom he took as an example
            The Secretary of State campaigned for laws guaranteeing race separation and punishing interracial sexual relations, using Jim Crow's racist American laws as an example.
            Honestly, I haven't read about any prosecution or conviction of Jim Crow yet.
            He also gave the definition of "murder", which is still used today in German criminal law,
            The Federal Republic of Germany is one of the respected members of the European Union and a member of the United Nations.
            1. Region-25.rus
              Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 12: 10
              +8
              The Federal Republic of Germany is one of the respected members of the European Union and a member of the UN
              I am ashamed to ask - is the UN the standard of impartiality, objectivity, honesty and virtue?
              Remember -

              And what happened after?
              1. Fitter65
                Fitter65 9 August 2021 12: 40
                +1
                Quote: Region-25.rus
                I am ashamed to ask - is the UN the standard of impartiality, objectivity, honesty and virtue?
                Remember -

                Strange as it may seem, but for the leadership of our country this is a standard, well, at least until recently it was so. And about how they shook the test tube, but in the times of Yeltsin they could shake anything there, and Russia would not have bothered even then. So the UN is still an international organization, and there is nowhere to go.
                1. Region-25.rus
                  Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 12: 42
                  +1
                  So the UN is still an international organization, and there is nowhere to go.
                  serving mainly the interests of a well-known country of three letters)))
              2. Black lotos
                Black lotos 9 August 2021 17: 13
                +4
                Quote: Region-25.rus
                And what happened after?

                Certainly. Invasion of Iraq. But the UN
                Quote: Region-25.rus
                Is the UN the standard of impartiality, objectivity, honesty and virtue?

                did not authorize the invasion
                Russia, China and France have indicated that they will veto any resolution containing an ultimatum allowing the use of force against Iraq.
                The United States was ready to ignore, of course, but
                The operation was carried out on the basis of UN Security Council Resolutions No. 687 and 1441, without additional UN sanction. Let me remind you that 1441 is a ban engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction, but does not give the right to invade.
                The US just needed to find a "scapegoat" for its public because
                2977 people. 24 people are missing - you just can't explain it that way. And letters of happiness with an ulcer.
                However, the United States, represented by Trump, admitted that it was a mistake at the cost of 7 trillion and thousands of American lives. The author of the test tube resigned after completing a brilliant career.
                What the lesson teaches
                Colin Powell test tube

                1-The United States did not want to do without UN sanction.
                2-At the UN, before and after that, they brought in various things to prove their intentions (including even those taken off their feet). But the UN did nothing thoughtlessly
                And in this case, the UN did not particularly help the United States.
                1. Region-25.rus
                  Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 17: 16
                  +1
                  The United States did not want to do without UN sanction.
                  well, in 1999 it cost something (I'm talking about Yugoslavia) what
              3. Terran ghost
                Terran ghost 9 August 2021 17: 14
                -4
                And what happened after?

                And then it turned out that Colin Powell (who is with the test tube in the photo) SUDDENLY was right. In violation of the treaties and decisions of the UN Security Council, Saddam Hussein (with a small letter intentionally) hid the arsenal of chemical weapons from UN inspectors.
                http://russian.news.cn/2018-03/14/c_137037924.htm
                Quote: "The communiqué states that in March 2009, Iraq reported the presence of chemical weapons in two warehouses in the country. However, the security conditions in those areas did not allow Iraq to immediately start the process of destruction of chemical weapons. elimination. "
                1. Region-25.rus
                  Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 18: 22
                  0
                  in general, "democracy" would still be reported. Do not wash like this by skating. As in Libya for example. And not only hi
                  https://topwar.ru/3819-xronika-livijskoj-vojny.html
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 10 August 2021 09: 32
              -4
              Quote: Fitter65
              But no who did not condemn

              No one has the right so not know and distort the Russian language, someone (not who, no one, not who).
        2. Undecim
          Undecim 9 August 2021 11: 51
          +5
          interesting. Can you read a reference? Or as usual?

          I do not know if Hitler called Freisler Vyshinsky, but the fact that Freisler was very interested in Vyshinsky's practice and in 1938 came to one of the trials led by Vyshinsky is known for sure.
          Source - THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH A History of Nazi Germany and the documentary series of the film company ZDF Enterprises Hitlers Helfer - Ronald Freisler der Hinrichter.
          1. Region-25.rus
            Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 11: 56
            +6
            As far as I know, the USSR cooperated only with the Weimar Republic. In particular, he provided proving grounds for testing tanks. Not for training (rather we trained) emphasize And with the coming to power of a non-artist, this practice stopped. So here "the grandmother said in two". Maybe he came. I can't argue here, but there is no time to dig ((((work up to the throat hi
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 9 August 2021 12: 14
              +3
              As far as I know, the USSR cooperated only with the Weimar Republic.

              1. Region-25.rus
                Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 12: 18
                +3
                I repeat -
                In particular, he provided proving grounds for testing tanks. Not for training (rather we trained) I emphasize
                if you do not understand, I will explain - I specifically meant military cooperation It's time to stop the vicious practice and objectively minus. And then you read without delving into it. (I'm not personally for you)
                And from the table you can clearly see how import-export decreased. hi
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 9 August 2021 12: 42
                  +3
                  - I specifically meant military cooperation

                  And I specifically meant that the arrival of a German lawyer does not apply to military cooperation.
                  The minus is not mine. Put a plus.
                  1. Region-25.rus
                    Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 12: 44
                    +3
                    The minus is not mine.
                    Yes, I'm not for you))) I know exactly whose hi
                    And I specifically meant that the arrival of a German lawyer does not apply to military cooperation.
                    well, apparently I weaved it all together. what Excuse me, I mostly look at work. By the way, customers from Germany laughing
              2. Fitter65
                Fitter65 9 August 2021 12: 56
                +1
                You confuse cooperation and trade relations a little. In the 30s, the USSR traded under various types with everyone who could provide technology and high-tech goods. Therefore, I had to trade. And the fact that in the 20s they collaborated with the Germans militarily, so where could you get experience? Let's just remember the amount of aviation in Germany and the Russian Empire in the First World War. The Germans had more air units than ours. This is of course a slight sarcasm, but it did not go far from the truth.
                1. Region-25.rus
                  Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 13: 08
                  +4
                  Thank you! But I wrote about this (more succinctly) -
                  Not for training (rather we trained)

                  Let's just remember the amount of aviation in Germany and the Russian Empire in the First World War. The Germans had more air units than ours. This is of course a slight sarcasm, but it did not go far from the truth.
                  Well, this is you a little at the wrong address (but thanks anyway). I am aware of whose engines the Ilya Muromets flew, whose Nieuport fighters, the rifles of which systems were in service with the RIA, and so on. But here (and not only) there are citizens who claim approximately the opposite - “Russia entered WWI at the peak of its power. RI built battleships (and no scoops were built), bombed (apparently with carpet bombing, given with what aplomb it was written) Turkey. ... And ..... I almost won (but with what?). If the damned Bolsheviks had not spread the troops. "
                  1. ABC-schutze
                    ABC-schutze 9 August 2021 13: 17
                    +3
                    I, too, all the time wonder how it is possible to "decompose" the army, if it is, REALLY, "on the eve of victory." The history of such examples does not know ...

                    Moreover, when the “loyal” fathers - the commanders with their “personal example” of general plebescites, stand guard over her "fighting spirit" vigilantly. The church, the gendarme corps and all the resource and financial power of the propaganda apparatus ...
                    1. Region-25.rus
                      Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 13: 31
                      +2
                      Me too, I am surprised all the time
                      This is wonderful! So there is a place to be critical and logical thinking! good
                    2. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 10 August 2021 09: 26
                      -7
                      Quote: ABC-schütze
                      I, too, all the time wonder how it is possible to "decompose" the army, if it is, REALLY, "on the eve of victory." The history of such examples does not know ...

                      these are just facts: the army and the country after the thief were destroyed by thieves, and the victory, even without Russia and even with the full help of national traitors to their masters, the German invaders, took place already in November 1918.

                      Without the help of the Bolshevik traitors, it would have taken place much earlier.

                      and yes, in 1917, practically before the VOR, the percentage of German troops on the Eastern Front (in relation to the Western) was the highest in the entire war.
                      Quote: ABC-schütze
                      when the "loyal" fathers - the commanders with their "personal example" of general plebescites, stand guard over her "fighting spirit" vigilantly. The church, the gendarme corps and all the resource and financial power of the propaganda apparatus ...

                      in order to avoid a repetition of events in the Second World War, similar to the VOR, Stalin physically destroyed all even potential New Bolsheviks, and the gendarme corps grew by ORDERS, as did the number of people sitting, no Dooms, legal strikes and oppositionists, and it was impossible to imagine.

                      After the worst military catastrophe in the history of the world in 1941-42, if there was a Duma with the opposition and its newspapers and a radio with the TRUTH about what happened, no one would have stayed in the chair: History knows no such examples.
                      1. ABC-schutze
                        ABC-schutze 10 August 2021 11: 35
                        +2
                        "... these are just FACTS: the army and the country after the THIEF were destroyed by the THIEFS, ..."
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                        First, these are not "facts" but events and processes. You will not be able to hide behind a tag "just a fact" that is comfortable for you ...

                        Secondly, ALL processes and events have causes and effects. And they are analyzed (or hushed up) ...

                        Third, after does not mean because of. They remind of this already in elementary school ...

                        Fourthly, no one disputes the process of decomposition of the army. It is this process that is a fact.

                        But the chatter about a certain "eve of victory" of Russia in WWI is an opportunistic, pre-war and "post-restructuring" anti-Soviet lie ...

                        Fifth, the army (and the country ...) was destroyed not by the "Bolsheviks", but by the stupid, incurable managerial and conceptual mediocrity of the ruling parties. And the monarch-autocrat, first of all ...

                        The Bolsheviks, only competently and for the benefit of the people and Russia, used the collapse of the army and the morale of the people initiated by the policy of the ruling. And they sent the "monarchy" to the dump, preserving Russia, its statehood, strengthening its self-sufficiency, and its imperial status of the "Red Empire" ...
                      2. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 10 August 2021 15: 23
                        -7
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        First, these are not "facts"

                        learn what "FACTS" are, so as not to talk nonsense
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        Third, after does not mean because of. They remind of this already in elementary school ...

                        even in kindergarten, they understand that after and because of often they go together
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        Fourthly, no one disputes the process of decomposition of the army. It is this process that is a fact.

                        but until the THIEF she held out, the true disaster began with the THIEFS
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        Fifth, the army (and the country ...) was destroyed not by the "Bolsheviks", but by the stupid, incurable managerial and conceptual mediocrity of the ruling. And the monarch-autocrat, first of all ..

                        destroyed the Bolsheviks, stabbing in the back of the weakened the hardships of the World War country - in the most difficult hour of testing, hitting on the sly, meanly and treacherously
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        The Bolsheviks, only competently and for the benefit of the people and Russia, used the collapse of the army and the morale of the people initiated by the policy of the ruling. And they sent the "monarchy" to the dump, preserving Russia, its statehood, strengthening its self-sufficiency, and its imperial status of the "Red Empire" ...

                        what kind of "saving" Russia? fool fool
                        Jump out at the WINDOW and see WHAT scraps of Russia they left after their reign, and the number of victims during their reign amounts to many tens of millions - this was not the case in one country in the world.
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        I am amused all the time with this kind of babble. Especially on the part of the fighters for the "one-indivisible" with the "white color" ...

                        I wonder what kind of "strikes" and "oppositionists" can be in a Soviet country with real democracy? ..

                        belay fool lol you leave these stupid fairy tales for the imbeciles - no "supremacy" has ever existed in the "nogodny" country: whom the stupid mustomehlis appointed you as the main ram, you praised the so-called. "elections" with ... one "candidate" were ridiculed by all.

                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        Who, the kulaks, the NEP-aches and others, the “half-run” whites and the “intelligentsia” in the corners, the “intelligentsia” were supposed to be “admitted” by the Bolsheviks? ... In other words, all those who got in the neck in the Civil ?. For the invaders and occupiers who worked? .. Or who supported them morally? ..

                        none of your business, whoever the PEOPLE wants-white, blue or brown.

                        But the fact that yours were afraid of elections before fatal enuresis is visible with the naked eye, for they knew that they would be thrown out, as used, yes
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        There are no “New Bolsheviks”, even those with “potential” names, in nature, and there cannot be. ...

                        I mean bandits stabbing in the back of a belligerent country-like in a thief
                        and Stalin knew it like no one else in the thief
                        Quote: ABC-schütze
                        Special thanks for the "gendarme corps". I, in fact, reminded you of this in the FIRST post ... Under Soviet power, ALL Soviet GOSAPPARAT was UNABLE.

                        lol fool officials / parasites in the so-called. there were ten times more power on the neck of the people than under the accursed "tsarism"
                        Moreover, both in periods of victories and in periods of failure. And he could ensure the controllability and development of the state.

                        Yes? and WHERE EN, this successful man, eh?

                        Brought to coupons for women's panties once a quarter and the borders of the 17th century with extinction - in PEACEFUL time is a B "big" success ..

                        funny verses, yeah .....
                      3. ABC-schutze
                        ABC-schutze 10 August 2021 11: 43
                        +2
                        "... as well as the number of those sitting, no Dooms, no legal strikes and oppositionists, and it was impossible to imagine ...."
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                        I am amused all the time with this kind of babble. Especially on the part of the fighters for the "one-indivisible" with the "white color" ...

                        I wonder what kind of "strikes" and "oppositionists" can be in a Soviet country with real democracy? .. With people's ownership of land, its subsoil and the means of production? ..

                        Who, the kulaks, the NEP-aches and others, the “half-run” whites and the “intelligentsia” in the corners, the “intelligentsia” were supposed to be “admitted” by the Bolsheviks? ... In other words, all those who got in the neck in the Civil ?. For the invaders and occupiers who worked? .. Or who supported them morally? ..

                        I apologize to ask, but from what kind of overshoot of the Soviet power - the winner, was it to engage in such political stupidity? ...
                      4. ABC-schutze
                        ABC-schutze 10 August 2021 11: 53
                        +1
                        "... Stalin physically destroyed everyone, even potential New Bolsheviks, and the gendarme corps grew by ORDERS, as did the number of people sitting ..."
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                        There are no “New Bolsheviks”, even those with “potential” names, in nature, and there cannot be. You are either a Bolshevik or not. Moreover, see the term "Bolshevism", in the context of methods of struggle, and the tasks of building (party and state) is evolutionary ...

                        Special thanks for the "gendarme corps". I, in fact, reminded you of this in the FIRST post ... Under Soviet power, ALL Soviet GOSAPPARAT was UNABLE. Moreover, both in periods of victories and in periods of failure. And he could ensure the controllability and development of the state.

                        In contrast to the impotent and mediocre monarchy of Nicholas №2. Resources (punitive, propaganda, administrative and financial), which had more than the Bolsheviks who started from scratch. But stupidly the country fell apart ...
                  2. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 9 August 2021 15: 25
                    +2
                    Quote: Region-25.rus
                    But here (and not only) there are citizens who claim approximately the opposite - “Russia entered WWI at the peak of its power. RI built battleships (and no scoops were built), bombed (apparently with carpet bombing, given with what aplomb it was written) Turkey. ... And ..... I almost won (only with what?). If the damned Bolsheviks had not decomposed the troops

                    And you and Olgovna too, ugh, how about it I remember so pink and blue confuse, with Olgovich, of course, tried to enter into an argument? I also like his stubbornness about the Russian aircraft carriers in 1915 bombing Istanbul. drinks good good
                    1. Region-25.rus
                      Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 15: 33
                      +2
                      laughing It's useless to argue with such a contingent))) I don't argue drinks And I write for people who do not know what I know (no need to consider me a know-it-all recourse I myself often learn new things from the comments of other people) What would be an alternative opinion (and not distortion and lies) People with a critical mindset read, appreciate (even without a plus sign) and learn something new for themselves hi
                      about Russian aircraft carriers
                      probably meant the so-called. "aircrafts" laughing But, some people consider them to be analogs of some "Hiryu", "Soryu" or other "Saratogs" and "Enterprises" with "Hornets" laughing
                      1. Fitter65
                        Fitter65 9 August 2021 16: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: Region-25.rus
                        probably meant the so-called. "aircrafts" But, some people consider them to be analogs of some "Hiryu", "Soryu" or other "Saratogs" and "Enterprises" with "Hornets"

                        Well, as our pink and blue elephant claims, these were at least prototypes of aircraft carriers of the Gerald R. Ford type or, in the worst case, the Nimitz type, but the Bolsheviks who seized power ... good drinks
                      2. Region-25.rus
                        Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 16: 32
                        +1
                        but the Bolsheviks ...
                        a colleague at work here in all seriousness once said to me - "Lenin overthrew the tsar, and then the communists destroyed Russia. The whole industry." And I am not exaggerating, but quoted verbatim. Okay, it was a relatively young man. Already the post of the perestroika generation. But when adult uncles are like that .... there is either engagement, or hanging in the worldview at the level of "a pale youth with a burning gaze." Well, or all to the heap. hi
                      3. Fitter65
                        Fitter65 10 August 2021 11: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: Region-25.rus
                        But when adult uncles are like that .... there is either engagement, or hanging in the worldview at the level of "a pale youth with a burning gaze." Well, or all to the heap.

                        I also sometimes talk about similar topics with a person who grew up and was educated in the late USSR. So, in general, the commies are to blame for everything, from the Russian-Japanese one to the fact that in the USSR it was impossible to buy a simple Chinese screwdriver. laughing laughing good So nothing surprising. hi
                2. zenion
                  zenion 6 October 2021 00: 28
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                  Fitter65. There is no need to intimidate people like that. Russian planes also flew. The truth is that the Germans could still shoot down, but the Russian moths fly, albeit low, but on the fly dropped grenades, pots of shit, and so on. Imagine getting such a pot, even a helmet, and in the pot is not a flowerpot, but shit, let's say a cow. There was no such equipment that would shoot through the propeller, or the propeller of the aircraft, only the Germans could do that.
                  1. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 7 October 2021 01: 44
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                    Quote: zenion
                    There was no such technique that would shoot through the propeller, or the propeller of the aircraft, only the Germans could do that.

                    Well, if you take the history of the creation of the synchronizer. then, as it were, the first were the French who installed a simple bullet cutter on the propeller, after such an aircraft fell into the hands of the Germans, the Teutonic genius decided that there was a large consumption of ammunition, and thought of a full-fledged synchronizer. At the same time, other designs began to appear, the placement of weapons outside the propeller zone. So everything moved in this world. Only in the front line of the Russian Empire was it all like a swamp.
            2. Fitter65
              Fitter65 9 August 2021 12: 41
              +4
              Quote: Region-25.rus
              As far as I know, the USSR cooperated only with the Weimar Republic. In particular, he provided proving grounds for testing tanks.

              There was also an aviation center in Lipetsk. And also a chemical one, but it's all up to Hitler ...
              1. Region-25.rus
                Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 12: 45
                +2
                Well, in Lipetsk and the aviation center was. And also a chemical
                Thanks for the addition. hi
          2. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 9 August 2021 13: 48
            +1
            Foreign diplomats were also present at these trials. Including the American ambassador ...

            As for a certain "practice of Vyshinsky", history has shown that the racist theory and age-old practice of the "civilized" Anglo-Saxons, the Nazis interested and inspired somewhere else ...
            1. Region-25.rus
              Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 14: 48
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              as they say - "Do you know who else liked to read about cowboys and Indians? - Hitler!" Here, it would be funny if it were not true. Adik say a lot from the "American pioneers" and the same British on the topic of genocide and plunder of indigenous peoples of different countries and continents.
      2. Doctor
        Doctor 9 August 2021 10: 55
        +4
        Shot for the words "the war started in vain", "Hitler is sick", even said in the circle of family or colleagues. ..


        Under Freisler's leadership, this court turned into a killing machine. Between August 1942 and his death in February 1945, he handed down 2600 death sentences, more than half of all death sentences handed down by all branches of the Volksgerichtshof from its foundation in 1934 until its dissolution in 1945.

        That is, for the period from 1934 to 1945, the Volksgerichtshof passed about 5200 death sentences.
        The Nazis worked hard. winked
        1. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 11: 15
          +2
          Now they will tell you that in the "bloody scoop" (with reference to the "YeltsYn Center") "one hundred million" was just shot wink And that "Hitler destroyed strangers and Stalin exterminated his own"
      3. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 9 August 2021 13: 05
        +3
        "Wounded, he was taken prisoner, learned Russian, after the thief joined the RKPb, spoke at rallies of captured Germans for their entry into the Red Army, was a commissar in the food detachment, served in the Cheka.
        After returning to Germany, he became one of the first members of the Nazi NSDAP.
        Nickname - "Bolshevik".
        ************************************************** ******************************
        Your "clarifications" are not impressive in any way ...

        First, it does not follow from them that Herr Freisler "borrowed" his criminal Nazi convictions from the Bolsheviks.

        Secondly, the Red Army, in the course of the Civil, fought against the German invaders and interventionists ANTAN-ty (as opposed to the so-called "whites" ...). For this, agitation for joining its ranks is a commendable thing. Moreover, here Herr Freisler is not much different from the Gulyai-Polish bandit Makhno, or Mishka Yaponchik, an Odessa bandit, who gathered a whole "revolutionary division" of bandits.
        Both, behind the signboard of the "Red Army", existed for some time quite comfortably, not sharing Bolshevik ideas and goals at all. So what?..

        Thirdly, in the Cheka and Popov, the head of the Combat Detachment of the Cheka, he served, who raised the anti-Bolshevik rebellion in Moscow. So what?..

        Fourthly, the "commissar" of the food detachment, Herr Freisler, returned to Germany in 1920. As well as the citizen - "ataman" Krasnov, who was not a commissar at all ...

        And he was a tsarist general who betrayed his oath and sided with the "temporary" February coups ...

        But General Krasnov, in contrast to the "food detachment" Herr Freisler, openly "rattled" in relation to the Russian territories ...

        And not only undertook to supply Wilhelm No. 2 with food, "in exchange" for weapons and recognition of a certain "state independence" of the Don separatists, but also assured the Kaiser of complete loyalty and "good neighborliness." And this "independence" of Krasnov's rat, Kaiser's Germany recognized. True, not for long ...

        For this, there is only one conclusion - Herr Freisler, during his stay in Russia, did no harm to her. Neither "imperial" nor "red". Unlike the tsarist "loyal subject" - General Krasnov, and Wilhelm, and Hitler diligently served ...

        The general conclusion, your "clarification" of the author's text, traditionally - "past the box office". An element of sluggish anti-Soviet propaganda is visible, but the information content is ZERO ...
        1. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 14: 50
          +2
          Your "clarification" of the author's text, traditionally, is "past the box office". An element of sluggish anti-Soviet propaganda is visible, but the information content is ZERO ...
          What can I say? - good Exactly!
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 9 August 2021 20: 30
            +1
            And I thought you would say "What are your proofs" from where the information and the link will be required.
            1. Region-25.rus
              Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 21: 03
              +1
              "you need to think less! and think more!" (c) "Brother-2" And what are you talking about?
              1. Mother Theresa
                Mother Theresa 9 August 2021 22: 26
                +1
                "It is surprisingly easy sometimes to ask questions; only there is one saying - it is impolite and rude, - which says about such questions, - you cannot erase a word from a song, - I will remind you: one can ask more than ten smart ones to answer."
                (V.I. Lenin, Collected Works, vol. 36, p. 116). Do not understand, it happens.
                1. Region-25.rus
                  Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 22: 46
                  +2
                  Do not understand, it happens.
                  I understood everything perfectly laughing
                  What can I say? - good To the point!
                  I did not ask for proofs for this, but made a conclusion in the commentary just like that? ))) that ni .. not just like that)) For demanding references to what I have been following for a long time, namely Olgovich and his last descendants (I have been observing this since about 1989. other slag. That on the go reforged) is simply stupid! You seem to be confusing "thick with soft" laughing
                  And apparently did not read my "battles" with the above-mentioned character))
  2. Darkness
    Darkness 9 August 2021 06: 00
    +4
    Here's a bloody fanatic. In a psychiatric hospital it would be necessary, and here - the head of the court.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 9 August 2021 06: 27
    +7
    [b
    ] received the title of Commissioner.
    [/ b] author, commissioner, at that time, was more a position, not a title. Roland Freisler, served as food commissioner. In addition, Roland Freisler presided over almost all the court hearings on the conspiracy on July 20, 1944, sending most of the defendants to the gallows (women to the guillotine). participant in the conspiracy on July 20, Fabian von Schlabrendorf. He was buried in the Dahlem Forest Cemetery in Berlin, in the grave of his father-in-law and mother-in-law. Freisler's name is not indicated on the monument. Schlabrendorf was released, arrested again a few days later and sentenced to death. Schlabrendorf was held in several concentration camps, then, together with a number of high-ranking prisoners, was evacuated to Tyrol, where they were liberated by American troops shortly before the alleged execution. In the fall of 1945, Schlabrendorf was an adviser to the American delegation at the first Nuremberg trials. He convinced William J. Donovan, the former head of the secret service of the US armed forces of the OSS, that the Katyn massacre was an NKVD affair. Since Schlabrendorf was a member of the German anti-Hitler resistance movement, the Americans believed him.
    1. Avior
      Avior 9 August 2021 08: 13
      +7
      ... Schlabrendorf was released, arrested again a few days later and sentenced to death.

      After the failure of the conspiracy, Schlabrendorf was arrested and on December 21, 1944, he appeared before the People's Court of Justice. Due to the heavy workload, the hearing of his case was postponed to February 3, but on that day there was an air raid, one bomb hit the courthouse, and the chairman of the People's Court of Justice Roland Freisler was killed by a falling beam. At a new meeting in March, Schlabrendorf said he had been tortured. He was released, arrested again a few days later, and sentenced to death.

      Schlabrendorf, a lawyer by training, was an active participant in the conspiracy against Hitler - it was he who handed over the explosive device.
      At the trial, he stated that he was tortured, and torture in the Reich was officially prohibited. He was released, a few days later he was arrested again and a new trial was carried out. But the case dragged on, and he survived. After the war, he was the chairman of the Constitutional Court of the Federal Republic of Germany.
  4. Unknown
    Unknown 9 August 2021 07: 15
    +5
    Look at the photo, you will immediately understand from such mercy, do not expect it, will measure it to the fullest.
    All the same, rogue is tagged. In February 45, during the trial of Lieutenant Fabian von Schlabrendorf during the bombing, a falling beam broke Fleiser's head. Burn him in hell. Despite the loud name "United States of America against Josef Altstötter and others," the judges of the Third Reich, got off with fright. For example Paul Barnikkel, Imperial Prosecutor at the People's Court of Justice, acquitted. Ammon, Ministry of Justice, Chief of the 4th Division of the RMJ (Criminal Law and Administration. On February 3, 1951, due to the mercy of the American High Commissioner John J. McCloy from being released from prison for the military He settled down well in post-war Germany.From 1957 to 1970 he was director of the branch of the Lutheran regional church in Ansbach, as everyone becomes zealous worshipers of the church, and from the mid-1960s he also received a pension for his work as an adviser to the Reich Ministry of Justice He also wrote a commentary on the Bavarian ecclesiastical constitution. The same is about the rest who were tried there by the Americans. The generally recognized values ​​of the United States in action ... ... when the interests of the United States need it.
    1. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 08: 57
      +4
      Look at the photo, you will immediately understand from such mercy, do not expect
      you probably haven't seen Oskar Dirlewanger yet

      he was still a murderer
      1. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 11: 43
        +4
        minus player! Are you going to argue that Dirlewanger was a saint, and in the occupied territory of the USSR he handed out "ice cream to children and flowers to women"? what I don’t think I’ll hear any justification wink
    2. Black lotos
      Black lotos 9 August 2021 17: 22
      +3
      Quote: Unknown
      US Generally Recognized Values ​​in Action ... when US interests need it.

      if they judged him according to their own laws, then they could well justify. There is no public pressure on a harsh sentence, and their judicial power is not like ours. They quite wanted to show their mercy and their own court, in front of the European / Soviet systems.
      By the way, this brought more fruit for them - than the harshest sentences. Look who is Germany's ally .. certainly not the USSR or the Russian Federation.
      For 4 years of war on their territory, the Soviet people would have judged exactly more severely than these representatives.
      Considering that for Germany it was something of a kind and evil police officer.
      In general, any excuse for fanatics of their business (Nazis, fascists, Japanese) looks monstrous. Shiro Ishii, for example, did not fall on a beam on her head ... Throat cancer does not count. Not even in jail
      1. Unknown
        Unknown 9 August 2021 19: 09
        +1
        Quote: Black Lotos
        if they judged him according to their own laws, then they could well justify. There is no public pressure on a harsh sentence, and their judicial power is not like ours. They quite wanted to show their mercy and their own court, in front of the European / Soviet systems.

        They were tried along the way according to the laws of the United States, but they did not intend to condemn many to the highest measure from the outset. Here are the charges brought against the defendants. “Participation in a general plan or conspiracy to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
        War crimes through abuse of judicial power, resulting in the spread of massacres, torture, and theft of private property.
        Crimes against humanity, including the use of mass slave labor.
        Membership in criminal organizations (SS and NSDAP).
        Clause 4 of the indictment applied only to defendants Altstötter, Kuhorst, Engert and Joel (SS membership), Yoshi, Kuhorst, Nebelung, Rothaug (NSDAP membership).
        Paragraph 1 was rejected by the tribunal itself because the case was outside its jurisdiction. Judge Blair expressed a dissenting opinion, believing that the court should have referred to the decision of the main Nuremberg trial. " , the example of Anton Dostler, who complied with Kesselring's order on the shooting of American prisoners
        So when it comes to their own, they act tough and fast.
  5. north 2
    north 2 9 August 2021 07: 30
    +6
    As world history and practice shows, it does not happen that forces within the state are capable of overcoming fascism and Nazism in their own country. This requires armed intervention from outside. Moreover, fascism and Nazism are undoubtedly double-acting psychological weapons.
    That is, those whom Nazism and fascism elevate before others and declare exceptional, those
    feels euphoric, like drug addicts. And on the other hand, those whom Nazism and fascism, primarily in their own country, declare second-rate, so this psychological weapon fetters the will to resist fascism and Nazism. Moreover, those who have been declared second-rate will not try to prove to the fascists and Nazis in their country that they are not second-rate and that all people are equal, but will prove that they are the same exceptional as those already declared exceptional. So fascism and Nazism create competition within their country, so that there would be an incentive for a constant increase in those who support fascism and Nazism, This is how ordinary Germans enjoyed working in factories and factories producing weapons for fascism and Nazism and waited for them to receive estates with slaves on the territories of the USSR. Slavs.
    But if, in fact, everyone in their country agrees that they are exceptional, then the entire state begins to consider itself exclusive. But you won't be exceptional in front of yourself ... That's when the gaze of the fascists and Nazis, sooner or later, falls on the neighboring countries in order to declare them second-class and generally unnecessary for existence. And if these neighbors do not carry out an armed intervention in the den where fascism and Nazism began to raise their heads before fascism and Nazism in this den rose to their full height, then it will happen as in the past happened with the invasion of German fascism in Europe and the USSR, or there will be an invasion of Ukrainian fascism and Nazism in Russia and possibly in Europe in the near future.
    Only here it is not necessary la la that before the Second World War Europe did not see how fascism and Nazism were growing in Germany as if by leaps and bounds, and such judges and such justice there are a component of this psychological weapon, after the use of which virtually the entire German nation felt exclusive before other nations, shouted "Heil Hitler" and rolled up his sleeves Hitler began to make tanks and planes ...
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos 9 August 2021 17: 27
      +3
      Quote: north 2
      forces within the state are capable of overcoming fascism and Nazism in their own country. This requires armed intervention from outside.

      Spain?
  6. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 9 August 2021 07: 56
    +6
    The comments, as always, are more interesting than the article itself. I read the article on the link about legions, of the same level as this one.
  7. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 9 August 2021 14: 32
    +1
    Quote: parusnik
    In addition, Roland Freisler presided over virtually all of the conspiracy hearings on July 20, 1944, sending most of the defendants to the gallows.

    They (the conspirators) have fully earned their gallows. It’s a pity that they didn’t have time to overthrow Hitler in July 1944. A million allies and two million Germans could have saved their lives.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 9 August 2021 17: 04
      +4
      Explain, please, the first phrase, somehow it does not fit well with the next sentence. hi
      1. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 9 August 2021 21: 20
        +2
        I also tried for ten minutes to somehow dock what
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 9 August 2021 17: 56
      +3
      And continue to fight with the USSR
  8. Reklastik
    Reklastik 9 August 2021 19: 35
    +1
    [/ quote] The Federal Republic of Germany is one of the respected members of the European Union and a member of the UN. [/ quote]
    How amazing and magical! laughing laughing laughing
  9. Georg Shep
    Georg Shep 15 October 2021 21: 22
    0
    The convinced was a patriot of his country and intolerant of its enemies.
  10. YOUR.
    YOUR. 25 October 2021 11: 41
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    Use the word "party" in the first paragraph 4 times - however ...
    Apparently the author is experiencing an orgasm from this action :)