Russia airlifted Su-30SM multipurpose fighters to China to take part in maneuvers

The Russian Defense Ministry has deployed Su-30SM multipurpose fighters to China, which will take part in the Sibu-2021 (Interaction) joint exercises. This was reported by the press service of the military department.

The fighters, having covered a distance of 1,5 thousand km, landed on the territory of the Ningxia-Hui Autonomous Region, where joint exercises will be held at the training ground of the Ministry of Defense of the PLA "Qingtongxia" from August 9 to 14, in which, in addition to aviation Russian motorized riflemen and special forces will also take part. From the side of the PLA, Air Force planes, as well as units of the Ground Forces, are involved in the exercises. In total, about 2021 thousand servicemen of the two armies will take part in the "Interaction-10" exercise.

Following the landing of the Su-30SM, the Il-76MD military transport aircraft of the VTA of the Russian Aerospace Forces landed at the airfield, on which ammunition for Russian fighters arrived in China. Before the exercises, the joint Russian-Chinese group will conduct several practical exercises.

Meanwhile, Russian military and military equipment have also been transferred to China to participate in the "Clear Sky", "Suvorov Onslaught" and "Safe Environment" contests within the framework of the International Army Games - 2021. Typhoon-Air Defense combat vehicles have already been delivered to the PLA Korla training ground. and BMP-3, which will be used by the Russian military.

Following the Russian team, teams from Vietnam and Venezuela arrived in China to participate in the competition. The arrival of the teams is subject to quarantine requirements in connection with the coronavirus.

Comments

[paul3390]

A possible military alliance between Russia and China is invincible by definition. On America with its jackals - you can safely put a bolt. Therefore, any step in this direction is correct and good. Joint exercises - including.

[Andrey VOV]

I wonder what smart guy gave you a minus?

[paul3390]

And here just a crowd of LGBT libertines crawls around, having fun with carpet bombing of all the unwanted ones. For some reason, they sincerely believe that by doing this they will achieve something .. What is not very clear. Do they seriously think such a strange method to silence? Shitcrats - what to take from them .. Just to shit on quiet .. Yes, fuck them - there are still much more normal sane people ..

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: paul3390

And here just a bunch of libert LGBT representatives are crawling

I put one of the minuses. Thanks:))))
The bottom line is that the interests of Russia and China are completely dissimilar, and in many respects are also opposite. We absolutely do not need to get involved in solving the territorial problems of China, and they will not help us in any way in the event of the Great Zavarushka. The meaning of the relationship we should strive for is peace between our countries and mutually beneficial trade partnership. Trying to get something more is doomed.

[paul3390]

Contact us.

A military alliance does not at all mean automatic participation in any military conflict, especially one initiated by one of the parties. He can be defensive too, right? And aimed at defense only from one country - the United States. For with minor conflicts in neighbors - both we and they are quite capable of coping on their own. We do not need Chinese armored divisions on the Tsegabonia border, just as they do not need our marines on the coast against Taiwan.

But the defeat of China - we can not allow it! Like them - Russia. For then we are left alone with the West. And this is already fraught with ... We cannot do it alone. And the West will definitely climb to finish off the rest, do not go to the grandmother. One way or another. So - a defensive military alliance is essential. As a guarantee of survival.

[Svarog]

Paul At least I will never give you a minus, but in this case, I also do not feel optimistic. And I support Andrey's train of thought from Chelyabinsk. Who poses the greatest danger to us is not yet clear. I mean the West or China. There will be no friendship and full-fledged cooperation with China .. there are no ideological or economic grounds.
In Naberezhnye Chelny, the Chinese have built a factory .. Haer .. washing machines, refrigerators ..
And next to the factory, they are building an enclave for Chinese workers .. do you know what I mean? In our city there are a lot of Turks, Chinese and Tajiks .. or Uzbeks .. just some kind of invasion ..

[lucul]

The bottom line is that the interests of Russia and China are completely dissimilar, and in many respects are also opposite. We absolutely do not need to get involved in solving the territorial problems of China, and they will not help us in any way in the event of the Great Zavarushka. The meaning of the relationship we should strive for is peace between our countries and mutually beneficial trade partnership. Trying to get something more is doomed.

Yes Yes Yes ))))
The essence of the post - Russia needs to stay on the sidelines while the West finishes off China, and dutifully wait for its turn))))
I did not expect another answer from you)))

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: lucul

The essence of the post - Russia needs to stay on the sidelines while the West finishes off China

The only question is that the West has no thoughts to finish off China :)

[Terenin]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

and they will not help us in anything in the case of the Big Trouble.

If "Big Trouble" is what I understand, then it won't help anyone at all.
And, in the current military-political situation, it will still help.

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

We absolutely do not need to get involved in solving the territorial problems of China,

Moreover, China never asks for this.

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

The bottom line is that the interests of Russia and China are completely dissimilar, and in many respects are also opposite.

Well, of course, being at the junction of Europe and Asia, Russia needs to ignore, to its own detriment, the idea of ​​creating a large Eurasian space that would link Europe and Asia.
Moreover, why, during the implementation of the onshore part of the project, to create additional opportunities for the development of the infrastructure of the "godforsaken" regions of Siberia and the Far East

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Trying to get something more is doomed.

And what is this doom for Russia?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: paul3390

alliance of Russia and China

About this grandmother in two with a pitchfork on the water ...
The Celestial Empire is very on your mind!

[newcomer]

I agree. But why not, if a possible powerful alliance between Germany and Russia was strangled in the bud by the Western neolibera, that is, the Nazis. Why not be friends, if we and the Chinese have the same goals in geopolitics.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: newbie

But why not, if a possible powerful alliance between Germany and Russia was strangled in the bud by Western neolibera

You write about the impossible. Neither before the first, nor, even more so, before the second world union with Germany was impossible for the Russian Empire / USSR. And if it had happened before WWI, it would have led us to catastrophic consequences.

Quote: newbie

Why not be friends, if we and the Chinese have the same goals in geopolitics.

The problem is they don't match

[lucul]

And if it had happened before WWI, it would have led us to catastrophic consequences.

I do not think that for Russia there could be anything worse than the Revolution and the Civil War.
Russia was clearly on the wrong side in WWI.

[paul3390]

The revolution is just good, because without it, the former allies, along with the Romanovs, would surely have ruined Russia. And so - the USSR did become one of the two superpowers on the planet, that RI - it wouldn’t have shone.

Civil war is always bad, but is there any other choice? Will the thief who looted just like that, without a fight - give it back?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: lucul

I do not think that for Russia there could be anything worse than the Revolution and the Civil War.

It could. This is Germany, which won in Europe.

Quote: lucul

Russia was clearly on the wrong side in WWI.

You'd better remember how the Russian-German alliance ended. On the claims of Austria-Hungary against Russia. And the Germans sided with the Austrians.
Now imagine that Germany has conquered France. Where will the German and Austrian bayonets turn after that? Russia will either become a mute junior partner, satisfying the Austrians and Germans on demand with land, grain, etc. or, rather, they will simply crush us. And the Russian Empire is not the USSR even once, against all the might of Germany in WWI we can't stand even close.

[lucul]

Now imagine that Germany has conquered France. Where will the German and Austrian bayonets turn after that? Russia will either become a mute junior partner, satisfying the Austrians and Germans on demand with land, grain, etc. or, rather, they just crush us

Laughed))))
Germany fought against the Anglo-Saxons in the first place, and France is an obstacle, on the way to the capture of England, without having dealt with France, there was nothing to think and think of attacking England.
But you are exactly repeating the propaganda of the Anglo-Saxons))))
Just like Hitler, the USSR and Nafik would not have fallen to him (logically), but since he was led from the outside, he was persuaded to attack the USSR, although this did not yield to any logic)))

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: lucul

Just like Hitler, the USSR and Nafik would not have fallen to him (logically)

I'm afraid there are obvious problems with logic. To Hitler, the USSR really fell, you would at least condescend to Mein Kampf, or something.

Quote: lucul

oh since it was led from the outside

Reptilians from Nibiru ...

Quote: lucul

then he was persuaded to attack the USSR, although this did not yield to any logic)))

The attack on the USSR was perfectly logical. It is so logical that everyone expected him, including the USSR.
Hitler needed peace with England, but he could not force England to peace by military force - the British did not capitulate either after Dunkirk or after the fall of France. And they couldn't get them on the island. England from time immemorial held on to Europe due to the fact that it consolidated the alliances of weaker states against the strongest. Of the strong powers that could lead such an alliance, only the USSR remained. With his death, the hope for the creation of an anti-German coalition in Eurasia automatically disappeared, which greatly undermined the position of the "war party" in the British parliament. This is not to mention the fact that the USSR was a power that had to be reckoned with, take into account its interests, spend energy on maintaining the army for a possible war, etc.
It was entirely in Germany's interests to destroy the USSR, then England could surrender, and if not, it would become much easier to fight her.

Quote: lucul

Germany fought against the Anglo-Saxons in the first place, and France is an obstacle, on the way to the capture of England, without having dealt with France, there was nothing to think and think of attacking England.

Yeah. And after that, exactly the same situation would develop as with Hitler - Europe consolidated under Germany, which did not lay down its arms to Anglia, which cannot be obtained on its island, and lonely Russia.

[Briz]

Russia was clearly on the wrong side in WWI.

Did we have a choice? A Serb killed a German (not a simple one, of course). Russia has never turned away from Serbia. And the Germans had an excellent excuse, everything was predetermined.

[paul3390]

What would it be all of a sudden ?? Do not forget - in Germany at the beginning of the 30s, the communists were nearly defeated. Aloizievich, on the other hand, was literally pushed into power by Anglo-Saxon circles just because of the fear of losing Germany .. So - history could well have gone differently ..

Could you tell us about what exactly our interests do not coincide with the Chinese?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: paul3390

Do not forget - in Germany in the early 30s, the communists nearly won

And so what, excuse me? Did this somehow help Germany not to become Hitler's?

Quote: paul3390

Aloizievich, on the other hand, was literally pushed into power by Anglo-Saxon circles.

Was not. There was no Anglo-Saxon trace there. But, let's say, he even was. So what? The communists were able to somehow consolidate against? Forgive me, but the people of Germany in their overwhelming mass rallied under Hitler, no serious political forces that could resist him simply did not exist.

Quote: paul3390

Could you tell us about what exactly our interests do not coincide with the Chinese?

China has unsettled claims against our most important trading partner, India. China supports Pakistan. Satisfaction of the Chinese claims against Japan and Taiwan will give us nothing. China is the largest trading partner of the United States. China disputes our influence in Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan ... See SCO, in general

[newcomer]

You are so categorical with your conclusions. Speaking about the Russian_German union, first of all, we mean the economic union. We could improve each other well: conditionally, very conditionally, the formula says: German technologies plus our raw materials. Regarding WWI, etc., if it were not for Nikolai's faint-heartedness2, you see, RI would have come out or won. That there is only a game of "ladies, I will not give", with signatures in treaties with Germany and France. And not only that, but we have many common interests with the Chinese: we really do a good job of pulling each other up economically, in trade and industry in conditions of limited, that is to say, sanctions. And the desire for the development of a multipolar world, without homo aggression against children, the desire for sovereign development without any amero and European values ​​bring us together quite well.

[Senior seaman]

Quote: newbie

Speaking about the Russian_German union, first of all, we mean the economic union.

And this is a very bad idea. The Germans, not even being an empire, viewed Russia solely as a powerless appendage, a sales market without the right to vote. And when Germany was united ... In the end, it was with the Germans that we had customs wars.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote from Uncle Lee

The Celestial Empire is very on your mind!

The Celestial Empire is excellent at understanding itself, but not very well in what is happening outside. Russia, the Russians, as a Eurasian civilization, is the best choice as a mediator.
First there was a word! That is, Soviet Russia. Then, and still to a large extent, the countries of the West. Now Russia is coming to the fore again.

[carstorm 11]

An alliance between states to achieve common goals at a certain time, which is present now. So alliance is the right word.

[Reptiloid]

It's good that they will come from Vietnam and Venezuela! When the Venezuelans came to the first tank biathlon --- they brought alcohol with them, they treated our people! Our guys! This was mentioned here, in the article THEN.

[RZ-777]

All true.

[Old Horseradish]

Everything repeats itself in history.

In 1940, a toast was raised to the health of our ally, the Reich Chancellor of Germany. How did it all end?

[paul3390]

The analogy is not true. The situation with China is approximately the same as with the then Japan. Yes - there were horsemen demanding an immediate attack on the USSR. But the pragmatic point of view won out - on the feijoa? What will you get by attacking the Union?

So it is now - well, if the PRC is chopping off, let's put the Far East - and what? There is nothing particularly useful there, but what is there requires colossal investments. Even the great Soviet Union did not master them. The territory is cold, there are no roads, neither are industrial centers. So why does China need this hemorrhoid, when we are selling almost everything we need? But he will get a fierce enemy on the western border, and even with nuclear weapons ..

Earth - yes they have their own empty roof! Avon is half of China with almost no population. The whole crowd is clustered along two rivers and the coast. Why do they need Eastern Siberia?

But in the southern directions - and resources, and a warm climate, and the sea .. And the main enemies are also there. Why should they quarrel with us?

[Old Horseradish]

Quote: paul3390

So it is now - well, if the PRC is chopping off, let's put the Far East - and what? There is nothing particularly useful there

Simply brilliant! If there was one desert in Siberia and the Far East, but only one Baikal remained, then only one would be the strongest motivation for the expansion of China.

[paul3390]

What for?? Can you clearly motivate ??

[rocket757]

While there is one but strong motivating factor, an attempt at US hegemony with allies / satellites, friction between us and China is not visible.
Of course, everything can change ... so it is necessary to work hard on the internal construction of the country, a cohesive society, the economy and the army !!! There is no other way anyway.
And joint exercises ... there will be no harm from them, in the situation that has developed at the moment.

[Reptiloid]

I agree, Victor! Whatever this ally was, but he is the only one. Also --- China is positive about the USSR, about Lenin, about Stalin. These are our problems, that we do not appreciate and we screw up our history, and the Chinese celebrated the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. Unlike Russia

[rocket757]

Tired already ... they suck the same thing for the hundred and first time. All have long ago decided on which side they are and without serious events, reasons, there will be no changes.

[Reptiloid]

In any case, relations must be built, and not waiting for favors from nature and free nishtyaks from anyone. Don't think that someone should take care of us.

[rocket757]

When everything is stable inside your country, even better, powerful growth !!! then it's easier to build relationships, at least with someone ...

[Reptiloid]

everything is just like that. It seems to me that some have silly dreams and hopes that everything can be easy with us. After destroying the country and abandoning many things, it cannot be simple and easy. No past influence and admiration

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

some have silly dreams and hopes

We have some different ones and they have different nonsense, in form, but in fact the same thing.

[RZ-777]

That's right.

[Old Horseradish]

Quote: paul3390

What for?? Can you clearly motivate ??

The entire planet is suffocating due to the lack of fresh and clean water, in fact, wars are already going on for resources, incl. and for water. You, comrade, as I understand it, live on Mars? Or else where do you live?

[paul3390]

Don't make people laugh! Shchaz - the Chinese like Baikal will be transported to themselves .. Isn't it a shame to write such crap?

Besides - our native authorities will be in demand - and so they will gladly sell it .. Why fight?

[K150]

Quote: Old Horseradish

Quote: paul3390

So it is now - well, if the PRC is chopping off, let's put the Far East - and what? There is nothing particularly useful there

Simply brilliant! If there was one desert in Siberia and the Far East, but only one Baikal remained, then only one would be the strongest motivation for the expansion of China.

Another clown with fairy tales about the fact that China wants to take something from us. At the same time, citing Kuomintang manuals in the arguments.

[Reptiloid]

..... the territory is cold ......

China, like many other countries, is not in the habit of making district heating all over the country. Chinese houses are not heated in winter like ours.

[Xlor]

In 1940, a toast was raised to the health of our ally, the Reich Chancellor of Germany. How did it all end?

In the period 1941-1945, toasts were also raised to the health of Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill.
And exactly the same question - how did it all end after 1945?

[Mouse]

They will join us on tanks in the biotlon ... we will join them for exercises ... will the staff members raise their squeals again?

[Terenin]

Quote: Mouse

.. will the staff members raise the screech again?

So we are doing everything right.

[newcomer]

And it will be interesting to watch the training battles of the SU27 / 30/35 with its Chinese clones.

[Pavel57]

Quote: paul3390

But in the southern directions - and resources, and a warm climate, and the sea .. And the main enemies are also there. Why should they quarrel with us?

China will fight for resources if it cannot buy them.

There are no eternal allies. It is now beneficial for the two continental powers to be together against the island powers.

[paul3390]

Duc - where are the resources in the Far East ??? That is what is - the cat cried, and Eastern Siberia - you worry about mastering ..

[skipper83]

Sakhalin oil, gas. From de castri every three days a full Afromax with oil falcon leaves. A full gas carrier leaves the suburban every two days, and every 4 days Afromax with sakhalin blend oil. Kozmino leaves every day a full afromax with East Siberian pacific ocean (ESPO) oil, which is produced in eastern Siberia. And this is only oil and gas, I have no exact information about the production of diamonds in Yakutia and other minerals.

[K150]

Another provocateur on the salary with nonsense about the seizure of our territories by China. The fact that we have the largest nuclear arsenal does not seem to tell the author anything.

[Pavel57]

Following the Russian team, teams from Vietnam and Venezuela arrived in China to participate in the competition.

Is everyone on the Su-30?

[zwlad]

Checking the logistics and a kind of message to winners, what if the Russian Federation does not remain on the sidelines.

[Xlor]

Quote: paul3390

Potential military alliance between Russia and China is invincible by definition

God forbid ...

[businessv]

Quote: paul3390

A possible military alliance between Russia and China is invincible by definition. On America with its jackals - you can safely put a bolt.

Absolutely, but if Germany were also connected to it, then it would be possible to sleep peacefully! Well, but seriously, from such an alliance immediately strains with India, which will definitely not like such an alliance, they will fall under the minke whales and such rubbish will become muddled that you can't imagine worse - after all, the hegemon loves war in foreign territories. We benefit from good relations with all states on our continent, as far as possible. Well, and to be friends with neighbors - God himself ordered! By the way, today's article is hot, hot https://topwar.ru/185433-esche-110-shaht-novyj-pozicionnyj-rajon-raketnyh-vojsk-noak.html Why would it be?

[Terenin]

Quote: businessv

We benefit from good relations with all states on our continent, as far as possible.

True, but only good relations in international politics are built on the contradictions (tensions) of third countries among themselves. It has always been that way.

[Sergey Obraztsov]

How to respond to this comment if you want to sound unbiased - I don't see anything negative.

[Prisoner]

The Star Mattresses haven't bothered yet?

[TatarinSSSR]

Friendly coexistence with China is possible in Russia. But, you always need to keep in mind that China has serious economic and strategic projects in the future, which are definitely competitive with Russia. Plus, not in all geopolitical issues, our opinions and interests coincide. And no one has canceled China's interest in our Far East and Siberia. So we shake hands with one hand, hold the pistol with the other.

[RZ-777]

Quote: rocket757

While there is one but strong motivating factor, an attempt at US hegemony with allies / satellites, friction between us and China is not visible.
Of course, everything can change ... so it is necessary to work hard on the internal construction of the country, a cohesive society, the economy and the army !!! There is no other way anyway.
And joint exercises ... there will be no harm from them, in the situation that has developed at the moment.

[u-345]

I understand this is against the Somali pirates, isn't it?

[ustal1951]

How to define a liberast? And ask him about the alliance of Russia with China (which threatens his beloved America with a kirdyk). If a stream of indistinct eruptions begins and it is mangled like a devil at the sight of the holy cross, then this is a liberal, no matter what fig leaves he covers.