Ukraine has signed a major contract for the supply of R-27 medium-range air-to-air missiles

Ukraine will supply a consignment to a foreign customer aviation missiles. According to the portal defense-blog.com, Kiev has concluded a major weapons contract for the supply of R-27 air-to-air missiles.

As the newspaper writes, the contract was signed by the state joint-stock holding company "Artem" with a foreign customer, the data on which were not disclosed. Also unknown is the volume of the order, the modification of the ordered missiles and the delivery time. As stated in the Ukrainian company itself, the prepayment has already been received from the customer, and production has begun.

In Ukraine itself, the contract for the supply of R-27 has already been called "the largest in the last 10-15 years." It is also known that the contract amount exceeds $ 200 million.

It is assumed that India could be the customer of the missiles; in 2020, the Artem State Chemical Combine has already received a contract from the Indian Ministry of Defense for the supply of spare parts for the R-27 in the amount of about $ 8 million. It is also possible that it could be Indonesia, which previously showed interest in Ukrainian-made missiles.

Note that the Ukrainian company, which previously produced the R-27 aircraft in close cooperation with Russian enterprises, was forced to stop assembling them after 2014, since all economic ties were severed. In February of this year, Vladimir Zimin, President of Artyom, announced that the company had succeeded in setting up production of R-27 missiles without Russian components. Even then, a large volume of orders for these missiles from India was announced.

The R-27 air-to-air missile is designed to combat enemy aircraft and cruise missiles. Its range is up to 110 kilometers.

Comments

[Mouse]

Foreign customer, do not believe ... the territories will deceive, they will not give anything ...

[Torins]

Oh, and India will invoke Ukrainian missiles if something happens, they will curse Ukraine to the tenth generation ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Ukraine is already cursed, up to the tenth generation. Judas of the Russian land.

[nnm]

Strange news.
- yesterday Ukraine talked about a contract for 300+ million, today it's already 200.
- very often in Ukraine, memorandums are issued as contracts;
- as a rule, the customer is interested in his disclosure, so that probable opponents would know about the presence of weapons in him and once again think before doing it.

[Eug]

300+ is the cost for the Customer, 200 is official. The difference is that you yourself know where it will go. Such are my speculations.

[paul3390]

Interesting - what about the license? In fact, this is the development of the GosMKB "Vympel" them. II Toropov .. Did anyone ask them? Or does this foreign customer run the risk of buying a product without any support from the developer? A bold step ..

[Eug]

Faced with the fact that the customer considers "correct" that production, which was either serial under the Union, or experienced under the developer.

[Holgerton]

So their rocket is no longer "Vympelovskaya" R-27, if you read the news, then they installed new IR / AR GOS (Radionix), updated the radio fuse and replaced all the electronics, so there is nothing to accompany, this is in fact a parallel branch of the development of R -27 and, apparently, for the Indians, it turned out to be preferable to the Russian one, which means that we need to ask Vympel why, being the lead developer, they did not offer a more competitive product, given that they also have developments for integrating active radar GOS and other innovations.

[Orange bigg]

... it is necessary to put questions to Vympel, why, being the lead developer, they did not offer a more competitive product, given that they also have developments for integrating active radar seeker into the R-27 and other innovations.

Offered.

On July 29, 2019, the Indian news agency ANI reported, citing sources in the Indian government, that the Indian side had signed a contract with Russia for the purchase of a significant consignment of R-27 medium-range air-to-air guided missiles in the amount of Rs 1500 crores (about Rs 217,5 , 30 million dollars). The missiles are designed to arm the Su-XNUMXMKI fighters of the Indian Air Force.

... The production of R-27 series missiles in Russia is carried out at the facilities of its developer - JSC "State Machine-Building Design Bureau" Vympel "them. II Toropov "(Moscow), which is part of the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation (KTRV).

Earlier in June 2019, it was also reported that the Indian government approved the planned purchase of 700 more air-to-air guided missiles in Russia for Indian Air Force aircraft - 300 R-73E short-range missiles and 400 RVV-AE medium-range missiles.

It should be noted that the previous large contract for the purchase of R-27 series missiles was concluded by India with Ukraine - in 2013, the Ukrainian side implemented a contract worth $ 246 million for the supply of 400 missiles of this series to the Indian Air Force (180 R-27ER1, 180 R-27ET1 and 40 educational) produced by the Kiev state holding company "Artem".

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3722287.html

A colleague of diana_mihailova said with reference to the new head of the Kiev State Enterprise "State Joint Stock Holding Company" Artem "(part of the state concern" Ukroboronprom ") Vladimir Zimin that in July 2019, State Enterprise GHVP" Spetstechnoexport ", also part of" Ukroboronprom ", signed contracts for the supply to India of medium-range R-27 air-to-air missiles in the amount of $ 221 million and control and testing equipment for the R-27 missiles (PPPR "Gurt-M") in the amount of $ 26 million - and that, and other production of GHK "Artem".

It is worth noting that at the same time India contracted 300 R-27R1 / ER1 and R-27T1 / ET1 missiles in the amount of $ 217,5 million in Russia - produced directly by the developer of these missiles - JSC "State Machine-Building Design Bureau" Vympel "them. II Toropov "(Moscow), which is part of the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation (KTRV).

SJSC "Artem" (Kiev) has been the main serial manufacturer of R-27 missiles since Soviet times.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4013465.html

[Holgerton]

Yes, I also read this news in LJ bmpd, but here the sutta is that "Pennant" could not do exactly more competitive offer specifically regarding this order. Therefore, we can conclude that the Indians are counting on getting from the "Artyomov" P-27s something that "Vympel" did not offer.
And since the contract for Vympel does not provide for the supply of conditional R-27AR, and Radionix, in turn, has recently advertised its new IR / AR / PAR GOS under R-27, from which it can be assumed that the Indians are interested in R- 27 in the version with their GOS.
But this, of course, is purely my assumptions.

[Hexenmeister]

The 27T missile is very specific in its application, the 27P missile is outdated long ago and cannot be launched by itself, and all the radars that can control it are exclusively Russian (Soviet) ones, and all Ukrainian "improvements" are not supported by them. And if by AR is meant a rocket 27 with an active radar seeker, then there is not a single version of the radar that could use it.

[Maikcg]

With "Vympel" probably the kickbacks are not so big, but with 404 arias they will dance Jimmy Jimmy acha acha, then the rockets will be laid on the bare ground under the vines and when they rot they will whine that the rockets are bad and do not fly.

[Prisoner]

Rather, the Ukrainians will cheat. They will take the advance and merge.

[den3080]

Quote: Captive

Rather, the Ukrainians will cheat. They will take the advance and merge.

I think that everything can be "normal" there
The advance (or full payment) will be divided equally between the seller (contractor) and the buyer (customer).
The products may not be supplied, and when the next stage comes (other bosses in India sit in their chairs), then in 404 everything will change and the contractor will be bankrupt and pilfered by screw, brick by brick, three times.
The only thing that can interfere with the deal is the proportions of the division, that is, the greed of the parties Therefore, most likely, they will not agree in the end.

[Reserve buildbat]

Apparently, the "foreign customer" is LLC "Zaporizhzhatsvetmet" and LLC "Lvivburvzryvpodryvkhimsliv"

[Alien From]

Wonderful foreigners, even if they order mortars with strongholds ... sweat to wait ...

[Mouse]

Miracles and miracles ...

[Luminman]

even though mortars with strongholds

Are those mortars where the mines explode right in the barrel?

[Alien From]

They are, they are. Non-brothers do not shine with quality. At all!

[akarfoxhound]

Judging by the "minuses" - the Banderzyans here in small groups silently "troll the Akhressors", well, how can they, than they can ...

[knn54]

Iran managed to install the P-27 (still Soviet) on the F-14.
It is difficult to guess except for Ukraine and Russia, these missiles are operated by the air forces of 8 countries.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: knn54

Iran managed to install the P-27 (still Soviet) on the F-14.
It is difficult to guess except for Ukraine and Russia, these missiles are operated by the air forces of 8 countries.

It seems to me that after the Ukrainian airliner shot down over Tehran and the hysteria in Ukraine, Iran can be ignored.

[alexmach]

It is difficult to guess except for Ukraine and Russia, these missiles are operated by the air forces of 8 countries.

If there are only eight, then just the same is not difficult.
Ukraine and Russia disappear. Probably China is also disappearing - they will probably be more likely to re-equip for some of their own products.
Poland is re-equipping with American planes, they don't need it.
Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan - have them in homeopathic quantities, the latter will also probably buy TSA from Russia, along with airplanes.
Remains Algeria, India, Malaysia. Since we are talking about a large contract and real money, it is most likely either India or Algeria.

[URAL72]

I think these missiles can also be used by the air forces of Angola, Venezuela, Vietnam, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Peru, Uganda, Syria, Egypt, Serbia, Bulgaria, Ethiopia, Eritrea, possibly Cuba, Sudan and North Korea. Of these, only Vietnam and Egypt can pull such a contract.

[Eug]

For Algeria, Mig-repair (Zaporozhye) Mig-25 PD made, most likely with the revision of the sight under the control of the R-27.

[Bradley]

And what kind of missile modification are we talking about?
After all, it is very strange that in 2021 someone will buy the R-27R, but the R-27T is another matter.

[Alex777]

In Ukraine, you can first declare a historical order, and then pretend that there was nothing, you can easily.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bradley

And what kind of missile modification are we talking about?
After all, it is very strange that in 2021 someone will buy the R-27R, but the R-27T is another matter.

Try to understand the video.

[Bradley]

Try to understand the video.

The video does not clarify anything, and it is not clear which version of the rocket we are talking about.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bradley

Try to understand the video.

The video does not clarify anything, and it is not clear which version of the rocket we are talking about.

All I could. I'm not an expert here myself.

[Holgerton]

Most likely R-27ER / ET with new IR / PAR / AR GOS from "Radionix" (which were presented at a recent exhibition).
Google the news and it will say more about the new radio fuses and electronics.
In fact, this is the R-27, updated for modern realities.

[Bradley]

Have the Ukrainians screwed ARGSN to the R-27?

[Holgerton]

Judging by the news, Radionix (GOS) and Artyom (the rocket as a whole) are working on this. I can't say anything about the progress of the work, but the work on the GOS has already seemed to have been completed.

[Eug]

RLGS - with a "sharp" fairing, TGS - with a rounded one. The MiG-25 was so different.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Bradley

And what kind of missile modification are we talking about?

They offer 6 modifications of R1, Er1, T1, ET1, P1, EP1 missiles.

[Bradley]

They offer 6 modifications of R1, Er1, T1, ET1, P1, EP1 missiles.

Is it under this contract?

[Kerensky]

And do they have air-to-plane missiles? "Air - air" they can supply.

[Split]

Duc is a button accordion anecdote almost from Soviet times ...
"ordered air-to-air missiles .... well into the air, you can put air-to-target missiles"
I saw in the collections of anectodots still in the bearded 89 at least .. then not according to coupons there were only such collections

[Alexander Pseudonym]

I read that they ship to Indonesia.

[donavi49]

Where should they go? They refused the Su-35. From the Su-30 modernization too. To fasten to the F-16? So they have standard missiles, but there are few.

Or to the Raphael?
On June 7, 2021, during the visit of the Minister of the Armed Forces of France Florence Parley to Indonesia, the military departments of the two countries signed an agreement of intent (Letter of Intent) regarding the purchase of 36 new French Dassault Rafale fighters by Indonesia.

They did not have time to shoot the available ammunition for the supplied Su-30s. And they certainly would not have bought 200 million new missiles. 99% India. Only she can objectively master such a scale.

[Alexander Pseudonym]

I think to SU. Search the internet for news on this topic.

[donavi49]

They have 16 Su-27/30. And there is residual ammunition. There will be too many missiles for these Su-200 / 27s for $ 30 million. Here we buy for a fleet of 100-200 cars. And this is India and she alone.

[Brturin]

Quote: donavi49

And this is India and only she

Here the states again worried about the purchase of Russian weapons by India ... maybe the Indians want to "appease" this ...

[Alexander Pseudonym]

Maybe by the way, and India.

[rocket757]

They collected by cooperation ... changed the supplier of components, then Western partners can allow them to be completed as their own.
Quite an option.
The prime cost is higher, but they can flaunt components from Western partners ...

[Castro Ruiz]

R-27 (min. R-27R) is an obsolete missile. Tnz. yesterday's day.

[Ros 56]

The experience of China does not go for the future, and some, I remember, the spooks threatened the chubaty for substandard Igla MANPADS. In general, whoever contacts the hoh lami will remember them for a long time and will spit for a long, long time.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well, okay, they'll throw another one ...
Someday, this pool should still overflow.

[Xlor]

Dung as fuel?

[Split]

Alcohol?! Alcohol .... (c) Caucasian captive

[Sasha from Uralmash]

The publication can write whatever it wants! In reality, there is nothing! There is no production, only documentation! But it can be sold!

[Uma palata]

They will receive money from the customer and start their own KVN with jokes about the delivery time.

[Herman 4223]

Two hundred million dollars is roughly several hundred missiles. Well, who besides India can make such an order? This is the first
And secondly, if I were in their place, I would selectively check at least part of the game on flying targets. And then there will be conversations that the missiles are bad when it comes down to it.

[Black lotos]

if not for the dominance of a certain number of cheers of patriots who turn the discussion into a farce, quite readable commentary. Thank you for the pleasure (those who leave comments on the topic, not jokes, jokes and slogans)
The guided missile is designed to destroy air targets at any time of the day - at target speeds up to 3500 km / h, and overload up to 8g. The missile layout provides for modularity, which facilitates modernization. Modifications of the R-27 are in service with the air forces of 29 countries.
Now SJSC "Artyom" produces four modifications of the R-27 (R-27ER1, R-27R1, R-27ET1, R-27T1). The most advanced R-27ER1 has a launch range of 95 km. To defeat targets, a universal warhead weighing 29 kg is used. The R-27ER1 version is equipped with a semi-active radar head with radio correction. It is worth noting that in 2019 representatives of the Artyom State Holding Company announced work on a new modification of the R-27 and new GOS - including active ones. Tests of promising samples are scheduled for 2021.
Not a bad help for "Artem" and contractors too

[Alexander Pseudonym]

GAKH Artyom makes Neptune? What do you know about the exploitation of the pilot batch that entered the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

[akarfoxhound]

How did the Banderzians become active on VO! Well, nundococki, helped you minus?

[Sands Careers General]

Communicating with dill is not self-respect.

[Klingon]

There is unlicensed copying in violation of the AP

[Pavel57]

R-27, especially "R" is morally outdated. Theoretically, it could be extended by a variant with a combined head with an active channel, but Ukraine does not have such a head. In theory, Russia does.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Black Lotos

Now SJSC "Artyom" produces four modifications of the R-27 (R-27ER1, R-27R1, R-27ET1, R-27T1). The most advanced R-27ER1 has a launch range of 95 km. A universal warhead weighing 29 kg is used to defeat targets. The R-27ER1 version is equipped with a semi-active radar head with radio correction.

I can't help but write a number of clarifications:
- launch range to 95 (110) km., Since this range for the maximum speeds of convergence of the fighter and the target, and at medium altitudes,
- a universal warhead, in what sense is a universal warhead with rod striking elements, ideal for an aircraft-type target, but less effective for missile-type targets.
- "Artem" produces 4 modifications. I don’t know, someone needs a small missile not "E", especially a radio one. She's definitely outdated in the first place.

And where did Artyom get the passive head (PRGS) in Ukraine, it was not released, only in Omsk.

[Pavel57]

Quote: tyijho

And how the leavened ones were alarmed, already pouring out bile, it is clear that everything is going according to plan in the fraternal country:

The people are fraternal, but the state is hostile.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Klingon

There is unlicensed copying in violation of the AP

No copyright infringement. Artyom in the USSR was a large manufacturer of Vimpel missiles, all the documentation was received officially.

[Rusticolus]

No copyright infringement. Artyom in the USSR was a large manufacturer of Vimpel missiles, all the documentation was received officially.

Are you sure that Artyom in the USSR and the current Artyom in Ukraine are one and the same legal entity? The current Artyom has nothing to do with the organization that received the documentation under the USSR. This is the first thing. And secondly, even obtaining an official license for production does not at all mean the transfer of copyright, unless otherwise stipulated in a separate agreement. So from a legal point of view, the current Artyom is 100% a pirate. And even minor alterations of the product are not grounds for obtaining an AP.

[lopvlad]

Kiev has signed a major arms contract for the supply of R-27 air-to-air missiles.

Until now, the Soviet legacy, or rather Russia, because the R-27 rocket was developed by the Moscow design bureau Vympel, continues to feed the independent one.

[Pavel57]

[quote = Rusticolus] [quote] And even minor alterations to the product are not grounds for receiving AP. [/ quote]
Even if you are right, no one will do this - the prospects of winning in court are negligible.

[mmaxx]

I wonder who are they going to throw now?

[VicktorVR]

I wonder where they will get luminescence and titanium for production?