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"Science-13" or what is happening in orbit?

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Yes, eight days ago we were surprised to learn that MLM Nauka will still fly to the ISS. It looked more than odd considering that the main operators signed the ISS death warrant after 2024.


Indeed, the topic of this long-suffering module, which has been waiting for its turn since 1995, raises a lot of questions. They started to build it, then threw it, then started again.

At one time, just recently, it seemed that "Nauka" could become the basis for a new Russian station in orbit, since everyone scatters to their corners.

No. The almost thirty-year-old module was nevertheless pushed into orbit and docked to the ISS. "Pierce" was sent to rest in the ocean, now they will wait for the "Berth" to be sent up.

The path to orbit was as difficult as the rest история module. The road to the ISS took eight whole days. This is a kind of anti-record, because today the flight time of spacecraft to the ISS is calculated in hours. But we are not looking for easy ways, and therefore the module was nevertheless dragged to the ISS, in the style of Apollo 13, overcoming various difficulties.


But there were difficulties. The module went into space on July 21, 2021 and docked on July 29 at 16.30 Moscow time. During this time, malfunctions in the fuel system were overcome (not blockages, but a marriage, as Rogozin said), in the operation of the Kurs automatic docking system. In general, in the MCC, these eight days were more than lively.

After docking, cosmonauts Oleg Novitsky and Pyotr Dubrov began preparations for opening the hatches between the Zvezda and Nauka modules. When they began to open the Zvezda's inner hatch, the Nauka's engines spontaneously turned on and began to turn the entire station around.

The ISS began to rotate erratically. I had to turn on the engines "Progress" and "Zvezda" to counteract. As a result, the station, which had already been turned 45 degrees, was stabilized.

Now almost everything is behind (almost - this is optimism, you never know what else can happen), the module is docked to the ISS.

The question arises: for what?

According to the official releases of Roscosmos, the main task of "Science" is the implementation of the Russian program of scientific and applied research and experiments. It would be very interesting if it weren't sad at the same time.

Let's talk about pleasant things first.

With Nauka, the Russian segment will receive additional jobs, which were so lacking for astronauts, space for storing cargo, additional kits for the regeneration of water and oxygen, solar panels (90% of the Russian segment was supplied with electricity by the Americans), as well as a second toilet, a cabin for the third crew member, and the European manipulator ERA, which will allow you to perform some work without going into outer space.

But the main value of the module is 20 jobs for carrying out various experiments and experiments. Another 13 places are located outside, for carrying out experiments in vacuum using the ERA manipulator.

These are all positive aspects. Now let's see why all this is being started.

Again, referring to the programs of Roskosmos, one can understand that a lot of time will be devoted to various experiments with the genome. Russian cosmonauts have already studied the influence of outer space on the genome of fruit flies. In the future, this genetic analysis will be useful for better selection of crew members.

Study of the genome of microbes, which will change under the influence of cosmic radiation - the "Mutation" program.

The most ambitious project in Roscosmos is called the Quail project. In its course, they want to raise Japanese quail chicks on board the MK. Such an experiment was already carried out at the Mir station 25 years ago. Then the experiment failed, the chicks could not adapt to weightlessness. After 25 years, they decided to repeat the experiment. What is its value, it is difficult to say. Informational statements refer to new equipment for the experiment.

Perhaps this new equipment was planned then, in 1995, at the same time as Nauka, and now it will be used according to the principle of “don't throw it away”. Questionable value.

The only experiments that come as no surprise are the work on growing crystals. But there are also snags. Yes, ultra-pure crystals grown in zero gravity are very useful. But on Earth, repeating them is unrealistic, and one can only dream of an orbital plant. But I would dream, because it's useful.

In general, no such novelty is visible.

It is not entirely clear why it was necessary to push the "Science" so hard into orbit and "on the teeth" drag the module to the ISS. And then also to announce the launch of "Prichal" in November.


Two options. One is bad, the other is better.

A bad option is one in which Roscosmos has a very poor idea of ​​what to do next. And they just follow a pre-planned program. The same one, according to which "Science" was supposed to be in space back in 2007. "Just something" 14 years ago. Such a small "shift to the right".

How many experiments could have been carried out in these 14 years, how would this facilitate the work of Russian cosmonauts, who had a hard time all these years, because foreign astronauts had their own places and their own projects. Because of this, the Russian crew on the ISS was even reduced, there was nowhere to work.

And now, when the ISS is "everyone", for some reason they are dragging this module there. For three years? That kind of money for three years of work?

Perhaps, of course, Roscosmos knows what we do not know. But so far everything looks like this.

The second option is more interesting. Perhaps the resource of the modules will allow them to be operated after 2024. And not just to operate, but by undocking from the ISS. So to speak, in the form of a national orbital base. This would be a more interesting option.

But how everything will turn out in reality, we will see in 2024, fortunately, there is not so long to wait. And then it will be possible to personally understand which of the options was real. Will the entire Russian space economy fall into the ocean or will it continue to exist for some time as an orbital station?
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  1. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 2 August 2021 04: 42
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    His example to others "Science" ...
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    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 2 August 2021 05: 02
      +19
      You already had such a comment. Do you really think that he was so successful that it is not a sin to repeat it?
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 2 August 2021 05: 11
        +25
        Two options. One is bad, the other is better.

        Two options: one is bad, the other is not. And the general state in Roscosmos can be conveyed in the words:
        Roscosmos has a very poor idea of ​​what to do next.

        yes
        1. knn54
          knn54 2 August 2021 06: 17
          +5
          - this is the one in which Roscosmos has a very poor idea of ​​what to do next. And they just follow a pre-planned program.
          It seems that they simply do not have time with the NEW station (ROSS).
          And with the help of Nauka, they want to extend the service life of the Russian segment of the ISS until 2030.
          1. Civil
            Civil 2 August 2021 07: 13
            +19
            You just needed any success, at least some. Once "Science" is doshkandybal, it means that you can distribute prizes and hang medals. Everyone understands everything.
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 2 August 2021 10: 31
              +8
              You just needed any success, at least some. Once "Science" is doshkandybal, it means that you can distribute prizes and hang medals. Everyone understands everything.
              It is, of course, good - awards, but I think everything is simpler and more unsightly. Roscosmos is spending a LOT of money (it is clear that in the right pockets), but there is no result. So they dragged it "on the teeth". They ticked the box and "justified" the money invested. The plans of the Russian Federation for space exploration, for any period of time, have not yet been announced. The preposition - "and should we fly to the moon in such and such a year" are untenable. Not on anything! The same is about the new orbital station. As it touched it, "Science" does not fit - there is only a single cabin. So it will continue, a lot of pompous words with the necessary funding. Maybe they will draw a martyr, about a flight to the moon, on a new spacecraft.
              1. hrych
                hrych 3 August 2021 09: 27
                -4
                Quote: AKuzenka
                So they dragged it "on the teeth".

                Why quote heresy? Where were the "teeth"? I thought that after Putin announced our breakthrough systems, which became a revelation for the best intelligence services in the world, our inhabitants would finally have a "third eye". Opened up, but in a completely different place wassat and let him look only in the sanitary ware laughing Everything that is said by the Roscosmos functionaries is 90% disinformation, and it is precisely calculated. All actions of Roskosmos for a reason. So the author of the article was carrying a blizzard, but at the end he began to turn on the brain, albeit at low power wassat The conclusion of the module is a well-calculated step, experiments with birds are blatant misinformation. "Unscheduled" engine starts are scheduled. The station was not promoted, as the author writes, but the impulse is compensated. Something, some kind of a controlled catastrophe. You should be embarrassed that after such an emergency, our cosmonauts with happy ro..nice went to rest, but no. They shit on the Americans with a well-calculated impulse (my version). Russia will heat the ISS, because no one has such experience. This is food for thought.
                1. Akuzenka
                  Akuzenka 3 August 2021 11: 11
                  -5
                  Why quote heresy? Where were the "teeth"?
                  The expression is good. And what about what flew normally ...... read what was written before its launch and what happened in reality. I would like to agree with you that the muck was planned, but common sense gets in the way. From the Americans, the answer may arrive that our segment, "will not collect bones." The "Dragon" will arrive and the ISS "will suddenly begin to go out of orbit. The Americans, they will tell ours - sorry, there are no places in the" Dragon ", we will not forget you.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 3 August 2021 13: 22
                    +3
                    Why should the Dragon surrender to us at all? That they are trying to make holes with a drill, the situation is already clear wassat Roscosmos themselves make fire and believe in phony excuses themselves. Be consistent already.
                2. TerraSandera
                  TerraSandera 5 August 2021 11: 56
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                  "Russia will heat the ISS" An outstanding fact and cause for pride
              2. Barberry25
                Barberry25 3 August 2021 17: 01
                +2
                laughing use the search, and then write about "for show" and "no program" ..
                1. Akuzenka
                  Akuzenka 4 August 2021 15: 02
                  +1
                  use the search, and then write about "for show" and "no program" ..
                  Except for beautiful words, there is nothing, for 25-27 years already. Use the search and read what they wrote then and are now writing about space exploration. You will not see a fundamental difference. The names of the spacecraft are different and that's it. From the Soviet backlog. During this time nothing has been done. So there is no program. And paper and the Internet will endure everything.
                  1. Barberry25
                    Barberry25 4 August 2021 19: 43
                    +1
                    lol, well, yes, there was no Spectra-RG, there is no Hangar ... oh, it's funny what will happen in a few years ...
        2. Proxima
          Proxima 2 August 2021 07: 14
          +27
          As far as I know, the module was brought to mind by young guys-engineers. This is an invaluable experience for them - fellow succession of generations! I imagine the disappointment if the work of their hands were pushed into the far corner. On the other hand, the ISS will fly until at least 2025. Our astronauts need additional space, which is sorely lacking. The fact that the module is running is undoubtedly by today's standards, the success of our long-suffering "Rogozinskaya" cosmonautics! good
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 2 August 2021 07: 55
            +11
            Quote: Proxima
            Our astronauts need additional space, which is sorely lacking.

            yes
            The short-term perspective is to continue launching the Angara with the launch of the components of the future Mir-2 into orbit.
            Collect and test modules that will become structural components of the station.
            Eliminate past design errors and ensure that any component can be replaced.
            It is clear that this is not easy. It is clear that old specialists will not help (how many years have passed). But this is some kind of work.
            ==========
            The docking nodes should work like a Kalashnikov assault rifle. All office premises can and should be duplicated. Let the work in orbit become no more dangerous than the Arctic expeditions and "shift work". Then the matter will go.
            If you look at it, the spacecraft of the USSR were on Venus, on the Moon, and on Mars. Stop sprinkling ashes on yourself. A bad experience is also an experience, you just need to remember:
            Oh, how many wonderful discoveries to us
            Prepare an enlightened spirit,
            And the experience of the son of errors difficult,
            And genius, the paradoxes friend
            And the case, god is the inventor.
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 3 August 2021 17: 08
              +3
              Well, how would it be planned ... They will bring the Berth in November, then in the 25th year of the NEM and probably also 1-2 modules ... and then in fact they will dock, the ISS will be lowered, and ROSS will remain in this orbit.
          2. Dmitry V.
            Dmitry V. 2 August 2021 14: 49
            +7
            Quote: Proxima
            The fact that the module has been launched is undoubtedly, by today's standards, the success of our long-suffering "Rogozinskaya" cosmonautics!


            Success?
            That is, the fact that the docking nodes of the remaining segments did not exceed the maximum loads during the arising angular accelerations provoked by an abnormal start of the SCIENCE engines and the station did not collapse - sheer luck ...
            Only a designer can understand on what shaky "thread" the emergency was kept from a disaster.
            Success...
            1. hrych
              hrych 3 August 2021 09: 08
              -9
              I'm a conspiracy theorist. Those. behind any action I see organization and intent. You here demonstrated your ... haphazard train of thought wassat People like you are all by chance in this world. Accidentally dropped a bomb on Nagasaki, accidentally a bullet smashed Kennedy's head and so on. Based on my doctrine, I believe that this maneuver of Science is controlled, a maneuver precisely calculated to harm American equipment. And such a "hair" was calculated not by your head, but by a computer. wassat
              1. Dmitry V.
                Dmitry V. 3 August 2021 09: 20
                +5
                Quote: hrych
                в


                Idealists went to astronautics - not for money, why half of the people are there now - it's not entirely clear
                I am also an idealist, and used to bring to the ideal, everything that I do.
                Therefore, by education, he is an engineer technologist of an aircraft of the Soviet batch.
                As they said at our department - an error in the third decimal place is a 10 km miss past the target.
                The motive to write the above is that mediocrity and carelessness penetrate rocket technology.
                What we saw on the SCIENCE module is happening - endless failures and an unacceptable risk for the ISS crew - spontaneous engine starts by software is not a simple emergency. I'm not even saying that Roskosmos and Russia in its person have become a laughing stock not only for specialists, but also publicly humiliated all over the world ...
                In the USSR, responsible (and in this case, irresponsible) employees would have been removed long ago.
                And the Civil Code would have received a severe reprimand.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 3 August 2021 13: 38
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                  A laughing stock only in your comments. In fact, who has been delivering the crew to and from the station for many years without loss? With regards to the USSR, you can remember it with a kind word ... There is no it, it turned out to be unviable. With regards to the Queen, did they take it off when it was lost? No. With regards to Science, you (skeptics + spiteful critics + enemies) shit in the comments before launch, during launch, in orbit, during docking, after docking, when the crew opened the hatches, when the crew closed the hatches, when the pressures leveled off and when it officially became an ISS segment ... It's time to calm down, no, the gritting began further. Like, why is she at all, and why these experiments, etc. The fate is ... wassat
                  1. Dmitry V.
                    Dmitry V. 3 August 2021 13: 43
                    -1
                    Quote: hrych
                    you (skeptics + spiteful critics + enemies), crap in the comments before launch, during launch, in orbit, during docking, after docking, when the crew opened the hatches, when the crew closed the hatches, when the pressures equalized and became officially an ISS segment


                    Who are you to shut my mouth?
                    I studied in the USSR at the specialized rocket department, I have the appropriate education, the graduates of our department underwent practical training at Baikonur and were assigned to specialized rocket design bureaus. I have many acquaintances in the industry, I understand what I am talking about and am aware of what is happening, I try to understand the situation and understand where Roskosmos is openly silent or lying ..
                    And who are you? To climb with your advice.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 3 August 2021 13: 47
                      -1
                      I won't shut your mouth. Your mouth is out of my jurisdiction wassat And the fact that you say nasty things about colleagues indicates a violation of corporate ethics. Three times shameful.
                      1. Dmitry V.
                        Dmitry V. 3 August 2021 13: 53
                        +3
                        Quote: hrych
                        And what nasty things you say about colleagues


                        It was the colleagues who ingeniously saved the long-term construction, which the management imposed on them. On low-thrust engines, they reached orbit, eliminated the failures of attitude sensors and an automatic docking system.
                        Yes - they did a bad job at the MIC, they didn’t drive enough for fault tolerance, which manifested itself in flight.
                        They would have such salaries as the management writes out for themselves and funds - they would build modules no worse than the Americans. But it is necessary to feed the horde of Roscosmos officials, and as always, there is no one to blame for the international ridicule.
                      2. hrych
                        hrych 3 August 2021 14: 09
                        -2
                        A laughing stock again? Where is it a laughing stock? Challenger and Columbia are you not a laughing stock? Or do we have minor problems and in the end the problem is solved, then a laughing stock, and they have a type of routine? Is Skyleb a laughing stock? Did they fly and laugh on our ridiculous Unions?
                      3. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 3 August 2021 14: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
                        They would have such salaries as the management writes out for themselves and funds - they would build modules no worse than the Americans. But it is necessary to feed the horde of Roscosmos officials, and as always, there is no one to blame for the international ridicule.

                        I agree with you! hi Only, unfortunately, it is difficult for Uryapatriotic citizens to explain that an apparatus almost 30 years old was sent to the ISS, as well as that the Hammer and Sickle plant no longer exists and that the ISS was in a small step due to the docking of science from the disaster. It is impossible to explain to them that because of the tricks of "science" the American piloted flight to the station was canceled, from where the bolt fell out, who made a hole in the skin, and why the Americans fed our cosmonauts for two weeks and supplied oxygen to our segment.
                      4. hrych
                        hrych 3 August 2021 17: 13
                        0
                        Cut beyond the slings wassat
        3. lazy
          lazy 5 August 2021 16: 05
          0
          so the shuttle at one time abnormally turned on the engines and that there was no shout
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 2 August 2021 19: 47
        +1
        This is an invaluable experience for them - fellow intergenerational succession
        It is doubtful, such as: fine-tuning a steam locomotive in 140 years from the moment of its creation, will these guys-engineers then take on the development of an electric locomotive / diesel locomotive !? lol
        1. boris epstein
          boris epstein 3 August 2021 14: 41
          -2
          They'll take it. "... And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ..." They learn from mistakes. It is desirable, of course, to learn from strangers, but also from our own.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 3 August 2021 18: 40
            0
            They'll take it. "... And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ..." They learn from mistakes. It is desirable, of course, to learn from strangers, but also from our own.
            Boris, you did not fail to use a beautiful expression without any sense !!! laughing
            It is desirable, of course, to learn from strangers, but also from your own is not superfluous.
            One more, expression .., see my first answer just above this line! lol
            1. boris epstein
              boris epstein 4 August 2021 10: 40
              0
              Where does this confidence in your righteousness come from? The one who does nothing is not mistaken. If the error is analyzed, then it will not be repeated in the future. About your comment and the locomotive. Currently, steam turbines, the direct successors of the steam locomotive, are in operation. The only difference is that in a steam locomotive, the steam pushes the pistons, and in the turbine, the rotor rotates.
          2. ver_
            ver_ 6 August 2021 17: 36
            0
            ... you need to learn from other people's mistakes ..
            1. boris epstein
              boris epstein 7 August 2021 13: 47
              0
              The one who does nothing is not mistaken. The one who does something by making mistakes and correcting his mistakes will always be ahead in development of the one who is waiting for other people's mistakes in order to learn from them.
    2. ver_
      ver_ 2 August 2021 09: 24
      +2
      .. everything is good, beautiful marquise, everything is good, everything is good ...
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    3. pecan of Ivanov
      pecan of Ivanov 2 August 2021 21: 57
      -1
      Everything is clear here. Conduct tests of materials for Zeus, its construction, dv, military technologies, etc. ..... (THIS IS FOR BRAKES)
    4. Filosoff
      Filosoff 11 August 2021 10: 07
      0
      Don't you think that this is not the business of Roscosmos - to set tasks for itself? And what about the political leadership? But there are no ideas for tasks, because it is not a royal business - to think about space ... But the critics, they have a lot of ideas! ... One .... "Let's all root for the Mask!"
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 2 August 2021 14: 21
    +14
    Indeed, the topic of this long-suffering module, which has been waiting for its turn since 1995, raises a lot of questions. They started to build it, then threw it, then started again.
    Before writing about the laboratory module, you should at least read its history.

    _In 1993, Russia and the United States entered into an agreement on the creation of a common station, and in 1995, our Center. MV Khrunicheva began to make the first module of the ISS - "Zarya" - ordered by the Americans. To be on the safe side, in parallel, a backup of the Zarya module was created - FGB-2 (functional cargo module), ..........
    _In 1998, Zarya was successfully launched and became the first brick of the ISS. FGB-2 was not in demand (remained in the shop) ...
    .... In the early 2000s, it was decided that FGB-2 could be turned into a warehouse and even leased out space in it to the Americans. In the process of alteration, part of the equipment was dismantled, pipelines were cut down. Apparently, at that moment metal shavings got into the fuel system, because of which the module could completely remain on Earth.
    _By 2004, the need for a warehouse has disappeared. They decided to convert the module into a laboratory for scientific experiments. The name "MLM" Science "has officially appeared. But the volume of alterations was such that they were completed only by 2012. ......

    That is, it was decided to make a laboratory module out of an almost empty building only in 2004 (according to other sources, in 2007), therefore, to tie 1995 to its bookmark - no sideways.
    1. zenion
      zenion 2 August 2021 19: 11
      +1
      Bad_gr. It is very similar to the fairy tale about a blacksmith who was brought metal and asked to make a plow out of it. The plow did not work out and every time the metal became less and less, even the needle did not work. But the blacksmith said that he could make pshyk out of this. Okay, do some pshyk. The blacksmith heated this little thing and threw it into the water, there was a pshyk and there was no metal at all. God forbid, but it looks like this can be done with the country.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 2 August 2021 20: 54
        +2
        Quote: zenion
        Very much like a fairy tale about a blacksmith,

        And on the topic, what did you want to say?
  • datura23
    datura23 2 August 2021 05: 17
    +8
    "Perhaps this new equipment was planned back then, in 1995, at the same time as Nauka, and now it will be used on a 'don't throw it away' principle. Doubtful value."
    As with the article.
    1. vargo
      vargo 2 August 2021 07: 53
      +6
      The article is generally written by just an amateur who read something somewhere and that's it. If he really worked on the topic, he would know that
      1) Science hasn't moved the station much at all. And the engines were not deliberately jammed. Yes, they worked themselves, when the system, not realizing that it had docked, gave a signal to them to correct the position. The engines were allowed to run out all the remaining fuel, because it was planned anyway. The station weighs a lot and it is impossible to deploy it by 45g with these engines with the same fuel level. A lot of nonsense has already been written on the Internet, and like this author, the article is not checked
      2) MLM Science costs 13 billion rubles, this is a station plus everything that was invested before. Not withdrawing it after so many costs will simply be a greater loss than withdrawing it for at least 3-9 years (MSCs can still be extended right up to 2030)
      3) A lot of experiments are planned, there are still a lot of new places, and the next 3 years are scheduled. What else they want to spend, you need to look
      4) The docking module that was announced for November has not actually been approved on the ISS yet. There are still ongoing discussions about sending it. The announcement was made, but the decision is not yet unambiguous. Yes, here, as it were, the RK likes to make hasty statements, but fortunately he himself then speaks of the unresolved issue.
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 2 August 2021 08: 27
        -1
        And the comment, presumably, was not written by an amateur?
        1. Read the message from NASA Flight Director Zebulon Scoville. It will become clear to what extent the ISS deployed in real life after the unauthorized activation of the Nauka engines. Did you deliberately jam the engines? Is this a new version of the RC or yours personally?
        2. The module costs not 13 billion rubles, but 18. It is sometimes necessary to listen to the statements of the master of Russian cosmonautics, Mr. Rogozin. It is not for Russia to decide how much the ISS's service life will be extended in theory. And the one who bears the main costs of its operation is the United States. And the issue will be resolved depending on how successful the first SLS launch and the first Starship orbiter will be. Depending on this, the United States can prolong its participation in the project, or at once cool off to it. Therefore, it is better to keep in mind for the time being Solovyov's opinion about 2024/2025, as the most realistic in terms of the completion of the project. After this period, an avalanche-like failure of the station equipment may begin. In any case, in the ISS RS.
        3. How many experiments are there? So far, it has been officially announced already about thirteen. For the sake of this insignificant amount, it was necessary to drive a twenty-ton module to the station?
        1. dauria
          dauria 2 August 2021 09: 42
          +10
          ... It is not for Russia to decide how much the ISS's service life will be extended in theory.


          But can Russia decide to drown the module together with the ISS, or leave it in orbit? Not special, but undocking, preserving and leaving "for later" is probably possible. Up there, every kilogram is gold.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 2 August 2021 09: 59
            0
            This gold is only valuable if it can be exploited normally for a reasonable period of time.
            In light of the statements of RSC Energia Deputy General Designer Solovyov about the imminent possible wear of the ISS RS systems, this possibility is highly questionable.
      2. zenion
        zenion 2 August 2021 19: 14
        0
        vargo. You are right the Cosmos will not allow it to be moved, and the Cosmos will stand behind the station, that is, the Universe.
      3. Mr. 9mm
        Mr. 9mm 3 August 2021 00: 30
        +4
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDBt9rZhMb4 Вот как вертело и крутило МКС.
        1. Beby
          Beby 3 August 2021 22: 10
          0
          Thank you for the video: the RGB graphs of the rotation coordinates were extremely interesting and quite informative.
          However, it should be noted that in the above video, an attempt to visualize the rotation of the ISS looks crazy: someone definitely does not understand that -180 degrees = +180 degrees. Accordingly, at these moments, the ISS model twitches like an epileptic (3 times per video), which makes it difficult to perceive the nature of the rotation of the station.
          If I understood the graphs correctly, then in the end there were only 2 complete revolutions of the station, but at very bizarre angles. On the one hand, it’s not fatal, but at the same time, these somersaults could easily disrupt experiments that were not designed for this.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 2 August 2021 05: 21
    0
    They dragged them in and dragged them in, after all, they shouldn't be scrapped ... But in general, in the space industry, according to its head, everything is fine. Which reminds of the famous episode with O. Bender's speech about the chess capital of the Universe in Bolshoye Vasyuki. Neither multi-billion dollar thefts, nor numerous failures of machinery and equipment, nor a real loss of leading positions, nothing spoil the picture!
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 2 August 2021 05: 37
      +17
      You are using our Rogozin ... smile he became a whipping boy.
      All the bigwigs for problems with the Russian cosmonautics take on his head.
      However, for this he was put there by the Sun.
      If you look more broadly, the problems are not connected with Rogozin, but with the general state of our country ... Rogozin can only solve particular issues of the current plan, and even then not always.
      1. Civil
        Civil 2 August 2021 07: 11
        -7
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        You talk about our Rogozin ... he became a whipping boy.
        All the bigwigs for problems with the Russian cosmonautics take on his head.
        However, for this he was put there by the Sun.
        If you look more broadly, the problems are not connected with Rogozin, but with the general state of our country ... Rogozin can only solve particular issues of the current plan, and even then not always.

        Alexey, are you all right? An unexpected comment from this account.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 2 August 2021 07: 39
          -1
          Well really what that the people are pressing Rogozin ... he is not Korolev and he does not have the resources that the Queen had. hi
          I am surprised that Rogozin tolerates stoically assaults on him from our society ... someone else would have become a nutcase long ago or resigned.
          1. qQQQ
            qQQQ 2 August 2021 09: 11
            +7
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            I am surprised that Rogozin tolerates stoically assaults on him from our society ... someone else would have become a nutcase long ago or resigned.

            From the post with such money, they leave us only with their feet first. Sorry for the pun.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 2 August 2021 11: 47
              -2
              Quote: qqqq
              From the post with such money, they leave us only with their feet first. Sorry for the pun.

              There is not much money for such a position, in comparison with Miller or the positions of our "oilmen". But the responsibility is much greater, and Rogozin is completely screwed for any mistake. Considering the income of our oligarchs on the basis of the extraction of raw materials, Rogozin can generally be considered a loser - such a piece has not broken off for him, and this probably saddens him.
              1. qQQQ
                qQQQ 2 August 2021 14: 21
                0
                Quote: ccsr
                There is not much money for such a position, in comparison with Miller or the positions of our "oilmen".

                We do not have very much money in almost all positions, here we mean the opportunity to cling to the financing of any projects.
          2. Offliner
            Offliner 3 August 2021 06: 59
            0
            Are you seriously? Yes, he at least ..., all God's dew. Looks only at the owner. Yes, the salary is dozens of times higher than that of the head of NASA.
            PS for 16 years had a direct relationship to docking systems. I don't know how it is now, but 10 years ago everything was sad about Khrunichev. I had to go on business trips.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 2 August 2021 08: 16
        +10
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        If you look more broadly, the problems are not connected with Rogozin, but with the general state of our country ...

        You, forgive me, but nobody is going to slander Rogozin. There is simply such a concept: "A man in his place." Tell me, can a specialist from journalism and politics at 48 feel like a dozen in the space industry, without having BEFORE (!!!) a complete understanding of the processes and activities in the space industry?
        I suppose that Dmitry Olegovich is not a stupid and erudite person with a certain charm. But this is not enough to become Ermakov, Korolev or Keldysh. Check out the biographies of these people. Will you entrust an entire industry to a person just because he suits you with his devotion? Devoted to you, he may be indifferent to the assigned work.
        And the last thing is to blame the successes of competitors. They managed to prove their advantage. To "plug them in the belt" present for review what no one else has. You will have "happiness" and forgiveness of past mistakes.
        An industry leader doesn't have to burden himself with writing notes on Twitter, he doesn't have to sit on social networks - that's not what he gets paid a lot of money for. And the last thing is when (even a son's) relatives and friends with the help of patronage DARKLY (!!!) become the MOST EFFECTIVE MANAGERS in Russia.
        And what about our country, what problems can a loyal and plundered state have? There is only one problem here: they are trying to prove to us that LIFE HAS BECOME BETTER, LIFE HAS BECOME MORE FUN, while honoring the traitors as the saviors of Russia. Only is it TRUE? Isn't all rubbish from the evil one?

        And who, after that, are the people who consider it their right to impose a lie about the significance of these personalities in the history of the country?
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 2 August 2021 09: 27
          +5
          Then how to explain the appointment of Rogozin to the post of head of Roscosmos ... without the indulgence of the GDP it is impossible.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 2 August 2021 09: 38
            -2
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Then how to explain the appointment of Rogozin to the post of head of Roscosmos ... it is impossible without GDP indulgence.

            Naturally. Only Dmitry Olegovich sought recognition as:
            He is known for his opposition activities, as the chairman of the regional branch of the Great Russia party and as the chairman of the Rodina party until 2006. Here it is, in all the glory of the TV broadcast:

            And then he was noticed in the Kremlin and made an offer, akin to this:
        2. boris epstein
          boris epstein 3 August 2021 15: 02
          0
          Under the USSR, neither Keldysh, nor Korolev, nor Chelomey could pull on the Internet with or without reason. Rogozin, yes, not Korolev. He simply covers the modern Korolevs with his chest, takes on all the fire against Roscosmos so that they do not interfere with their work. After all, there was a big break in the exploration of space by Russia, many scientists and designers went abroad, the connection between generations and some of the technologies have been lost. a new generation, and this cannot happen without mistakes. And there were mistakes then: Marshal Nedelin and 75 other people, cosmonauts Patsaev, Volkov, Dobrovolsky, Komarov died. So the heads had to be removed?
          How many US astronauts died in Challenger and Columbia? Fire in orbit on Skylab. Everyone has mistakes.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 3 August 2021 15: 12
            0
            Quote: Boris Epstein
            A new generation is growing now, and this cannot happen without mistakes. And there were mistakes then.

            Do not equate mistakes and sacrifices in the name of creation and creation with theft for self-interest and carelessness for show.
            The new generation is growing, but Rogozin has nothing to do with this generation (if only his son). People like him in the common people say: a chatterbox and a braggart.
            His guilt is one: if you can't, if you don't know how, step aside and don't shine. He was left with an unbroken trough and the priorities in the industry could be outlined. Do you know his plans for the future? And I guess he has plans - to sit until retirement. Maybe I'm wrong, but if during his lifetime a person did not distinguish himself with great intelligence and ingenuity, then by old age this will not happen at all.
            1. boris epstein
              boris epstein 3 August 2021 15: 38
              -2
              Rogozin is just a cover. It is not he who teaches the growing youth. They are interested in studying in Russian academies, and it only prevents some of those who want to terrorize these young people on the Internet.
              "You do not equate mistakes and sacrifices in the name of creation and creation with theft for self-interest and carelessness for show."
              But theft for the sake of self-interest must first be proven. Otherwise, it is libel and a criminal article.
              "They left him an unbroken trough as an inheritance"
              This is exactly what they left. 10 years after under Yeltsin and 5 after him NOTHING was done. That's when billions of rubles were really sawed off. Where is "Buran"? Where is Lozino-Lozinsky's Spiral? Where is the Buran launch from the back of the An-224? And the An-224 was built precisely for this.
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 3 August 2021 16: 29
                -1
                Quote: Boris Epstein
                But theft for the sake of self-interest must first be proven. Otherwise, it is libel and a criminal article.

                Firstly, this does not concern Rogozin himself, but the industry he manages, in which there are more criminal cases than real ones.
                Secondly, I have serious suspicions and questions of fact:
                Dmitry Rogozin, general director of Roscosmos, earned 2020 million rubles in 83,1, according to the income statement published on the state corporation's website.
                In 2019, the head of Roscosmos declared 44,13 million rubles, the amount almost doubled.

                Wow, what a knack! fellow He earns several times more than the president, and even in a pandemic ...
                Quote: Boris Epstein
                Otherwise, it is libel and a criminal article.

                You also sew me extremism with terrorism
                1. boris epstein
                  boris epstein 3 August 2021 16: 31
                  -2
                  If he declared, then everything is already legal. Illegally undeclared. This is your slander. Everything else is FLOOD.
        3. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 3 August 2021 16: 45
          +2
          Yuri Vasilyevich, please list the specific failures in the Russian cosmonautics, after Rogozin's appointment, general phrases that everything is bad, let's leave the story with Krikalev outside the brackets, this is clearly not his level of decision-making.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 3 August 2021 18: 09
            +2
            Quote: nov_tech.vrn
            Yuri Vasilievich, please list the specific failures in Russian cosmonautics after Rogozin's appointment

            I cannot copy and paste what is already written:
            https://topwar.ru/155469-kto-kogo-rogozin-i-kosmonavtika.html
            Quote: Boris Epstein
            If he declared, then everything is already legal. Illegally undeclared. This is your slander. Everything else is FLOOD.

            Especially for you and others like you about libel laws:
            1. nov_tech.vrn
              nov_tech.vrn 3 August 2021 19: 32
              +1
              Roman's article to which you are referring is unfounded. I am not a fan of Rogozin, but the very first year after his appointment, it was not target expenses that decreased by an order of magnitude, these are the data of the Accounts Chamber, but projects with a creak, but are being implemented. And "Science" has been motionless, not since 2017, but since 2007.
        4. Marconi41
          Marconi41 3 August 2021 20: 43
          -1
          [There is simply such a concept: "A person is in his place." Tell me, can an expert from journalism and politics at 48 feel like a dozen in the space industry, without having BEFORE (!!!) a complete understanding of the processes and activities in the space industry?

          Come on, Comrade Kiriyenko ran Rosatom very effectively without having a specialized education, Comrade Shoigu did not even serve in the army. It's not about education, it's about leadership.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 5 August 2021 04: 30
            +2
            Didn't want to answer - why? But, after thinking and weighing everything, I decided that not only the overhead gazes live on the site, and a few strokes to the portrait:
            Quote: Marconi41
            Come on, Comrade Kirienko was in charge of Rosatom very effectively without specialized education,

            We still do not know how Mr. Kiriyenko earned himself a security certificate in the form of the title (by a closed decree) of the Hero of Russia. If you take into account his participation in the project of creating a ramjet engine using atomic energy, the creation of which was endorsed in 1953 by a government decree on the development of "cruise missiles with a ramjet engine using atomic energy" and entrusted to academicians MV Keldysh, I. Kurchatov. V. and Koroleva S.P., then the question of the weight of the personal contribution to IT of a former Komsomol worker (who does not have a specialized education, moreover, I suspect that he will not even be able to describe the principle of operation of such an engine) is VERY PROBLEMATIC.
            The general director of Rosatom, probably nomenklatura, was Kiriyenko, just like he was Prime Minister in 1998. Only knowledgeable people say that the Kovalchuk brothers play a significant role in the development of the budgetary funds of this industry. They say and tell:

            And I was also amazed by the size of lending for the construction of objects "uncle" from the state (that is, ours - taxpayers) pocket. There, an additional amount of 119 billion rubles demanded by Mr. Likhachev, Kiriyenko's successor and acquaintance from work in the Komsomol bodies, is comparable to the costs of building three multipurpose frigates of the far sea zone of project 22350 or five small missile ships of project 21631 Buyan- M "...
            ==========
            Quote: Marconi41
            Comrade Shoigu did not even serve in the army.

            Perhaps Mr. Shoigu is more circumspect and quicker than his predecessor (Serdyukov). I am sure that he is on time:
            submits to the President of the Russian Federation, and on issues within the competence of the Government of the Russian Federation - to the Government of the Russian Federation proposals for the development and implementation of state policy in the field of defense;

            https://doc.mil.ru/documents/extended_search/more.htm?id=10912180%40egNPA
            Only two problems:
            1. I do not understand why the salaries (by rank and position) of regiment and division commanders vary at the level of payment for overhead line installers and foremen, builders and drivers of special equipment?
            These same people are the main wealth in the army. Good and competent commanders are the key to victory in battle.
            2. Why is the indexation of military pensions lower than the inflation rate, while the pension itself is reduced by 26% and is indexed at the end of the year (from 01.10.)?
            Is this the concern for the people of military labor, or are we strained with the means? Oh, yes ... There is an opportunity to pray in the built temple directly to the direct person involved (s) ...
        5. Moskovit
          Moskovit 4 August 2021 08: 18
          +5
          Rogozin still has a talented son. In Aleksin, on gunpowder, they still remember it with a "kind word".
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 4 August 2021 11: 03
            +1
            Quote: Moskovit
            Rogozin still has a talented son.

            And Ivanov has a son no less talented. The one under whose leadership, as President of ALROSA, the Mirny diamond mine was flooded.
            I don't want to get into these talent and fan fights. It's hard to explain the obvious.
    2. Avior
      Avior 2 August 2021 07: 48
      +2
      Why scrap metal? The creation of a new station was announced.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 3 August 2021 12: 58
        +1
        They just arranged it in the plans so that Science cannot be brought there for a reasonable price.
        1. Avior
          Avior 3 August 2021 19: 16
          -2
          I'm not sure that it was technically so easy to undock and redo the module to a new station after several years of operation.
          I meant that the module had to be held in order to start a new station.
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 2 August 2021 05: 28
    -6
    I still hope that Russia will have its own space station, without the participation of American cosmonauts and European passengers whom I regard as potential saboteurs ... you never know what they will get into their heads ... they will drill holes in the station's body and look for them later.
    Well, long-term construction always brings problems ... and with Science.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 2 August 2021 15: 52
      +8
      "they will drill holes in the station building, look for them later." ///
      ---
      The hole was drilled from the inside in the inner lining, but neatly sealed with epoxy outside, which was discovered by the Russian cosmonauts during the survey. You need to search at the assembly plant.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 3 August 2021 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The hole was drilled from the inside in the inner lining, but neatly sealed with epoxy on the outside, which was discovered by the Russian cosmonauts during the examination.

        There is a different version than yours:
        https://marafonec.livejournal.com/10971197.html
        1. Avior
          Avior 3 August 2021 19: 26
          -1
          This version is October 10th.
          The fact that the soldier writes about a hole smeared outside under a layer of meteorite protection with resin was confirmed when Russian cosmonauts opened the meteorite protection on December 12, shortly after which all press reports on this topic disappeared.
  • tasha
    tasha 2 August 2021 05: 40
    +12
    Let me remind you that "Module" Science "became the fourth scientific module of the ISS, after the American laboratory" Destiny ", the European" Columbus "and the Japanese" Kibo "."
    In general, no such novelty is visible.
    Roman, the research program is very extensive and is not limited to quail raising. Follow the link below - you can find a list of upcoming experiments, including those with the use of the new module. And the sooner the work starts, the more likely it is to get results that will pay off all the costs.
    Plus a dual purpose, let's not forget. For example:
    Code "Scatterometer-L" - "As a result of space experiments, it is planned to obtain: • maps of wind speed and direction on a global and regional scale;
    • maps of boundaries and state of ice; "

    Cipher "Rakurs": • determination of the possibility of registering wave disturbances of the atmosphere generated by powerful man-made sources (explosions, fires, launches of RKT products) and natural sources of a catastrophic nature (earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, typhoons, thunderstorms);

    https://tsniimash.ru/science/scientific-experiments-onboard-the-is-rs/cnts/experiments/
    1. Cosm22
      Cosm22 2 August 2021 09: 15
      +8
      Let's leave scientific research alone. This fairy tale is for amateurs.
      The module was launched with a single purpose, and Rogozin himself spoke about it very clearly. So that 18 billion rubles of the people's rubles, spent on endless fuss for a quarter of a century, do not go to waste. It's just that someone at the top could run out of patience, and he could ask a completely logical question: will you fool our heads with your "Science" for a long time? How long will you suck money from the budget for endless alterations and refinements? And what did the allocated funds go for? So "Science" had to be launched anyway, the time has come.
      But the question is - why?
      1. Will "Science" give impetus to science? In this case, space? It is highly doubtful. In light of the fact that as many as thirteen experiments are planned on the module (for comparison, the Americans have already conducted more than one and a half thousand experiments).
      2. When should you be hired by science at all? Between work to find the next air leaks? But 2024/2025 is just around the corner. Take a look at the schedule of work on the ISS.
      The whole of August is not occupied by Russia at all. Docking - undocking Starliner / Harmony, Cygnus, Dragon v2, IOD-3 AMBER / Bishop, CUAVA-1 and TUMnanoSAT / J-SSOD, Binar-1, EVA-77.
      And only at the end of September the redocking of the Soyuz MS-18 Rassvet / MLM-U Nauka is planned. And around this time VKD-49/50 for connecting cables between SM and MLM (Novitsky, Dubrov). And there are at least 8-9 of them, similar outputs. Or 11. Minimum. If you're lucky.
      Further - a one-year check of all systems of Science. 12 months... Not science, not experimenting. And checks. What year will it be? How much will remain until the estimated date of death of the ISS (2024/2025)? Will we have time to carry out all 13 experiments that are planned for the ISS?
      And this is not taking into account more than half of October this year. Which drops out completely, because Shipenko and Peresild fly to the station. What the hell is science if you need to shoot a movie? Leaving the specialists on Earth at the same time?
      And after the check and the epic from the cinema, what, by the way, should you conduct research on? Scientific equipment in Science is loaded a cat cried - less than 1/5 of the required amount. But other? And the rest is on Earth. He will be brought up by "Progressami". When? And the dog knows him ... But the year of the commercials by 2024-2025 will be brought up for sure. On October 30, Progress MS-18 will dock with Zvezda. And there, in a couple of months, it's already 2022. Fine, Constantine!
      3. With the arrival of Nauka, the power dependence of the ISS RS will only increase. Its SB issues a passport 2,5 kW. Compare this to the power consumption of your electric kettle. Here is my Bosch TWK3P420 eats the same - 2400 watts. For sockets and connectors, 28 volts DC is enough. But there is also such a thing as LSS. With its SOGS, SVO, SSGO, SOP, SOTR and others. And all this crowd needs e / e. Constantly. And the Star produces only 13,8 kW. And Zarya - 3 kW. And "NEM", which was supposed to provide 50 kW, will not come. So the full-fledged work of "Science" does not work out. We'll have to go again for e / e to bow to the Americans. Only for even more of it.
      4. I will not repeat that the functionality of Science has been cut off quite heavily. Her vehicle and engines are excluded from the general systems of the station, although they were originally intended for this very purpose.
      5. I can only repeat: "Science" is a suitcase without a handle. The benefit is minimal, it's a pity to throw it away. Let us quote again the master of Russian cosmonautics, journalist Rogozin: "NEM" and "Prichal" may not be sent to the ISS, as it is not entirely reasonable; discontinued. "And in that case, what about" Science "? Which is also supposedly designed for 15 years of work? Well Duc ... This is different, the stump is clear. excluding the net downtime I wrote about above.
      1. tasha
        tasha 2 August 2021 09: 37
        +12
        An interesting observation. The person writes - 13 experiments are planned. Is it a lot or a little? It is not clear to the ordinary reader. But if you add: "and for the sake of this insignificant quantity ", it is immediately clear - very little.
        So I read your comment, it seems interesting, like a person in the subject. There is something to object, but somehow I don’t want to and I cannot understand myself - what’s wrong, why don’t you want to get involved in the discussion and generally take your arguments seriously? I begin to select the words and so far only comes out: Your "embittered" comment ... I will refrain. hi
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 2 August 2021 10: 02
          +1
          And this is the right decision. You have to object specifically and point by point. For some reason, that's what I always do.
          As for Nauka, I would not have the slightest complaints about its launch if it had taken place ten years ago, as it was announced more than once.
          Today it is at least puzzling.
          Regarding "insignificance" ... The question is controversial ... A lot, a little ...
          Let's leave the Americans alone, everything is clear with them. But the experts have already made an interesting calculation. It follows from it that even Japan has more scientific publications about research at the station in English than Russia. But the Japanese visit the ISS much less often than the Russians.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 2 August 2021 11: 59
            0
            Quote: Cosm22
            It follows from it that even Japan has more scientific publications about research at the station in English than Russia. But the Japanese visit the ISS much less often than the Russians.

            What nonsense are you talking about if you undertake to judge only by the publications of the Japanese, who will never be able to create their own orbital station. In general, you know at least something serious from our astronautics, besides journalistic articles, how secrecy is observed at enterprises, including for print media, how are former employees condemned for selling state secrets, how is long-term planning carried out?
            Who are you hanging on to here, if you decide to talk about "Science" with a clever air, without having the slightest idea about the plans of Roskosmos in relation to the entire ISS and our module? We read a lot of journalistic articles, like this article, and decided that this is the homespun truth? It is ridiculous to look at your attempts to evaluate our astronautics, even on the example of this module, which, by the way, began to be created long before Rogozin's appointment. Maybe I should say thank you to him that he nevertheless brought the matter to the end, and the station received this module, even if this is not a breakthrough in our cosmonautics, but the usual work of Roscosmos.
            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 2 August 2021 13: 22
              +1
              We will discuss something serious if you give at least one specific figure, at least one specific parameter, and you will not rant "with a clever air, without having the slightest idea about the plans of Roscosmos in relation to the entire ISS."
              Leave the propaganda pathos in the form of noodles for the Fungus.
              Please do your efforts to assess our space exploration, relying on specifics and facts. And not on journalistic articles that came out from the pen of the media workers of Roskosmos.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 2 August 2021 18: 14
                +2
                Quote: Cosm22
                We will discuss something serious if you give at least one specific figure, at least one specific parameter, and you will not rant "with a clever air, without having the slightest idea about the plans of Roscosmos in relation to the entire ISS."

                You have already discussed how "successful" Americans will fly their launch vehicle at the end of this year, which is preparing to fly to the moon. I hope you have not forgotten - in four months I hope you will demonstrate to everyone their achievements with numbers, and also inform at least a year when the Americans will land on the moon. As far as I remember, you always dodged a direct answer, and never indicated a date, but at the same time you were vamping about their successes in preparing speakers. And at the same time there is something else you are telling about our space, you are our homebrew "expert" ...
                Quote: Cosm22
                And not on journalistic articles that came out from the pen of the media workers of Roskosmos.

                There even experts write, not verbiage, like you.
                1. Cosm22
                  Cosm22 2 August 2021 19: 35
                  +1
                  Have I specified a specific start date for SLS? When? What kind of drinking is this? I am not a drinker, so this fact has been seen by someone else? It happens. And not like that.
                  If, after all, someone is interested in the start date, what prevents you from figuring it out yourself? It has been announced, and information about it is available even in the Russian Wiki. To teach you how to use a search engine?
                  The year of landing on the moon will depend on the success of the first SLS unmanned flights and Starship orbiters. What is not clear here? Do you need a drop-off date from me? With the indication of the year, month, date and exact time? Can you also voice the length of the lander's shadow in meters at the time of landing? So I am still in my mind and did not survive from it to make such predictions. I also advise you to hold back your fantasies for now.
                  About how and when (really on time? Before the data from NORAD and NASA?) Roscosmos experts write, everyone is already aware. After the nonsense about the supposedly normal operation of the space station (and this is after the delay in the time of the first orbit correction!) And "planned !!!" switching on the traffic police after docking to "use up fuel residues". Thank you for having a good laugh. With the latter case, however, the incident came out. The guys did not agree in time on how to present this embarrassment to the Russian people. Hence the inconsistency in the analysis. That software, it turns out, let down, then the human factor, or maybe the bolt flying modulo ruined the entire mass.
                  I don't even want to joke. Everything is so far-fetched ...
                  We will talk about verbiage after you start to operate with numbers, dates, performance characteristics.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 2 August 2021 20: 33
                    -3
                    Quote: Cosm22
                    Have I specified a specific start date for SLS? When? What kind of drinking is this? I am not a drinker, so this fact has been seen by someone else? It happens.

                    The propagandist of American achievements has merged - it means not a fig knows how things are with them and how successfully they work, and how they hung up on us noodles about their "successes".
                    Quote: Cosm22
                    It has been announced, and information about it is available even in the Russian Wiki. To teach you how to use a search engine?

                    Do not wag - I am waiting for a specific date from you, since you are posing as a "specialist", so that you do not get lost later, as with the end of this year.
                    Quote: Cosm22
                    The year of landing on the moon will depend on the success of the first SLS unmanned flights and Starship orbiters. What is not clear here?

                    When this year comes - well, do not evade the "expert" more boldly, tell us about your vision. And why did you immediately include reservations - before you told us that everything has already been done and the end is about to be.
                    Quote: Cosm22
                    About how and when (is it really on time? Before NORAD and NASA data?) Roscosmos experts write, everyone is already aware.

                    Again verbiage - there is an official version and all your references to "specialists" without specifying their positions are just a bluff. The cleaning lady from Roscosmos may be a great authority for you, but not for those who understand how things are in such a complex industry.

                    Quote: Cosm22
                    We will talk about verbiage after you start to operate with numbers, dates, performance characteristics.

                    All your dates and numbers also do not have official confirmation, and are mostly sucked from the finger - you cannot even name the year the Americans launched the carrier to the Moon, and this already speaks of your competence in this topic.
          2. hrych
            hrych 3 August 2021 17: 46
            -1
            Quote: Cosm22
            And this is the right decision. It is necessary to object specifically and point by point.

            Are you standing on the Top of the World, trampling on Roscosmos and Rogozin personally? In your imaginationwassat I read 5 points of complete nonsense wassat Let's start 1.
            Quote: Cosm22
            for comparison - the Americans have already conducted more than one and a half thousand experiments

            Where are the benefits of civilization from these experiments? Those. needs to be corrected - one and a half thousand worthless experiments.wassat 2.
            Quote: Cosm22
            And the dog knows him ...
            Add that space. Why are you so nervous? What do you care about Science in general and the timing of its work? 3.
            Quote: Cosm22
            full-fledged work of "Science" does not work. We'll have to go again for e / e to bow to the Americans

            First, do not go, but fly wassat Weightlessness however. Well, "full-fledged work" will not work, so what? The Danube will flow backwards?
            4.
            Quote: Cosm22
            circumcised
            If you have ..., it does not mean at "Science" wassat
            5.
            Quote: Cosm22
            "Science" is a suitcase without a handle ... This is different, the stump is clear.
            I guessed that the main task of the "Science" module is to provoke a powerful attack in sick people. Judging by some, the problem has been successfully solved. Here is one experiment, write down the asset to Science. Commentator Cosm22 - a victim of Science
      2. Mityay65
        Mityay65 2 August 2021 10: 09
        -8
        Nicely disassembled, almost an article hi Didn't you think to break out? Here or on Habré. After the opus and "Macaroni Monster" have been driven away, there are no competitors ...
        The obvious nonsense of sending Science is obvious, when in the morning Roskosmos is discussing the creation of ROSS, and in the afternoon the sending of the Science module to the ISS. Breaking patterns.
        The idea that it is necessary to launch at all costs, for leaving in the end on Earth fraught with punishments, has long visited the heads of the heads of Roscosmos. There is simply no other explanation.
        PS It's too early to say where the NEMs will be attached. K ISS or ROSS. In April Rogozin seemed to be going to send him to ROSS, but in June-July they started talking about the ISS. In light of the fact that ROSS may not take place, at least until 30 - 33 years.
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 2 August 2021 10: 17
          -3
          The fact that RK has seven Fridays a week is already known in Africa.
          But turning on the back one with NEM is somehow not comme il faut. Propaganda has already built ROSS in orbit in the minds of Russians, and NEM is indispensable there.
          In general, it is very doubtful that NEM will be part of the ISS. While it is brought to mind, the station itself can go to rest.
          Here the UM can be sent. If the surprises with "Science" are finally over.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 2 August 2021 13: 09
          0
          Until 2030, three modules will definitely be made and launched, and Science can be undocked and docked to a new station.
      3. Gust
        Gust 2 August 2021 12: 12
        +6
        There may be a typo in the power data. Even on Earth, silicon quietly gives 200 W, with a battery area of ​​56 square meters. m is already 10 kW. Modern batteries on heterojunctions give about 300 watts. In space, the solar constant is higher, of the order of 1400 W (spectrum A0, it seems), which for ordinary silicon already gives 14-15 kW. What 2,5 kW are we talking about ???? For comparison, the Zvezda has 76 sq. m of batteries with a rated capacity of 13,8 kW, and these batteries are a hundred years old at lunchtime. Even if we assume that Science has similar old batteries, this is about 10 kW. Nobody forbids thinking, right?
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 2 August 2021 15: 44
          0
          Nobody. Including those specialists of Roskosmos who voiced the passport data of the product.
      4. Firelake
        Firelake 2 August 2021 18: 32
        -2
        I think she was sent into space to hide the saw on her
  • MBRSS
    MBRSS 2 August 2021 05: 46
    +15
    With all due respect to the compatriot author, and with all disrespect for the state policy in relation to civil astronautics, the text contains a lot of obviously controversial (i.e., clearly incorrect) statements. Whoever is in the subject will notice))
    1. Cosm22
      Cosm22 2 August 2021 09: 22
      0
      If there are controversial statements, why not dwell on them? Specifically? The points?
      1. MBRSS
        MBRSS 2 August 2021 18: 44
        +10
        Cosm22, yes, you will have to comment on almost every sentence, but laziness ... Well, here's at least the first sentence:
        eight days ago we were surprised to learn that MLM Nauka will still fly to the ISS.

        what will fly in July was known at the beginning of the year, and maybe even earlier. Specifically, the date of the 21st was announced, too, certainly not 8 days ago))
        It looked more than strange

        what's so strange ??
        Major operators have signed the ISS death warrant after 2024.

        nothing of the kind was signed, even in a figurative sense, if we consider the operators of the RK, NASA, ESA and YAKA.
        and so on in the text ...
  • avaks111
    avaks111 2 August 2021 06: 17
    +14
    I think Roscosmos knows what Skomorokhov does not!
  • avaks111
    avaks111 2 August 2021 06: 20
    -1
    Beauty "Science"! Handsome men "Roskosmos" !!!
  • parusnik
    parusnik 2 August 2021 06: 33
    -1
    Roman, everything is fine with us, don't screw it up. The sun is shining, it's good, it's covered with clouds, it's also good. Soon, we will plant carrots on Mars.
  • demiurg
    demiurg 2 August 2021 06: 35
    +16
    Whatever Russia does, there will always be someone who will screw it up, looking for flaws.
  • 1536
    1536 2 August 2021 06: 42
    +12
    About whether Roskosmos knows what to do or does not know. Roskosmos is engaged in manned astronautics, planetary exploration, the study of the Sun, astrophysics and the creation of artificial earth satellites. One of the important activities of the corporation is the development of tourism, both on earth (!) And in space. This is how the corporation's activities are briefly indicated in all reference books. The Roscosmos Corporation is, in essence, the successor to the former USSR Ministry of General Machine Building.
    But if you want to hear about breakthrough space exploration, new projects that require space flights to the planets of the solar system or beyond, if you need programs for the next 30-50-100 years, you should probably contact the Academy of Sciences. Well, or call someone in the garage ... Then Roskosmos will accept these plans as well.
    But it seems that Russia really still has only "two problems". And, unfortunately, this is not nuclear weapons or oil. I apologize for the harshness.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 2 August 2021 19: 34
      0
      Roskosmos is engaged in manned astronautics, planetary exploration, the study of the Sun, astrophysics and the creation of artificial earth satellites. One of the important directions of the corporation's activity is the development of tourism, both on earth (!) And in space. This is how the corporation's activities are briefly indicated in all reference books. The Roscosmos Corporation is, in essence, the successor to the former USSR Ministry of General Machine Building.
      Well, yes, this company is up to the Ministry of General, just like in this video:
  • Fungus
    Fungus 2 August 2021 06: 47
    +1
    Well done that Science launched and docked. Now our cosmonauts are settling there. We are doing a good job!
  • HefeDMB69
    HefeDMB69 2 August 2021 07: 32
    -1
    Author, how many random rotations are there? Hundred? Pizzot? In all directions?
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 2 August 2021 08: 21
    +1
    And I thought the author would issue a continuation of his article about railroad workers by the day of railway workers. etc., I thought how to put the admin, well, at least congratulations on the 91-year-old I eat the Airborne Forces ...
  • V1er
    V1er 2 August 2021 09: 25
    +5
    The US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) expects that, from an engineering point of view, it will be able to keep the ISS running until at least 2028, and probably even longer.
    1. tasha
      tasha 2 August 2021 09: 42
      +1
      "Whether this module will be part of the ISS all this time is also an open question, but not for long. Roscosmos will decide on the development of the Russian space station by the end of the month." ...
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 2 August 2021 09: 38
    +9
    I read the article and thought, from what tabloid, yellow rag? The novel can list space companies that deliver cargo to the ISS in 8 hours, and the phrase:
    -The ISS began to rotate randomly ..... As a result, the station which had already turned 45 "We managed to stabilize.
    I understand that you can dislike Rogozin, but you humiliate the work of thousands of engineers and specialists.
    For my part, I sincerely congratulate Roscosmos on the successful launch and successful docking of MLM Nauka to the ISS and wish you fruitful work for the good of Russia!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 2 August 2021 19: 29
      +2
      As a result, the station that has already turned 45 ". We managed to stabilize it.
      Unfortunately, you have old information for today:
      According to Kommersant, citing Zebulon Scoville, responsible for NASA flights, as a result of unplanned engine operation, the Nauka multipurpose laboratory module (MLM) made the ISS first turn one and a half turns in one direction, then half a turn in the opposite direction.
      As reported on Scoville's Twitter account, “Almost all of the rotation was in pitch. Almost 1,5 turns in one direction were performed, then 0,5 turns for return. " It is known that the module successfully docked with the ISS on July 29, and on July 31 it was integrated into the structure of the space station. As a result of a software failure after docking, the engines of Nauka spontaneously turned on, which led to a significant turn of the ISS. It is reported that the station's crew was not injured as a result of the unforeseen maneuver.

      Already in the area - 540 degrees .. hi
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 2 August 2021 19: 34
        +2
        I quoted the author of the article.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 2 August 2021 20: 34
          +1
          I quoted the author of the article.
          Hmm, overlooked .., but it's better all the same, then highlight quotes, and that vision already fails sometimes !? Sorry, if you hurt! drinks
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 2 August 2021 21: 09
            +1
            I haven’t learned how to highlight quotes from my phone yet, excuse me.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 2 August 2021 21: 16
              +1
              I haven’t learned how to highlight quotes from my phone yet, excuse me.
              Not worth an apology, it's not critical for me, honestly !!! Although, minusers will now run in and someone will tell you, to a heap, what kind of a well-kept and evil person I am! hi
      2. Mityay65
        Mityay65 2 August 2021 20: 27
        +2

        Visualization of the ISS spin from Scott Manley.
        In American.
        1. Keer
          Keer 2 August 2021 23: 43
          -1
          Good crap. Comrade mocks at the vinaigrette of delta, gamma and broken linear functions posted, as if describing the rotation of the ISS.
  • Operator
    Operator 2 August 2021 10: 38
    +3
    Everything is as always - another fortune-telling on the coffee grounds with a foreign agent bias.
  • Umalta
    Umalta 2 August 2021 10: 38
    +3
    In fact, it has long been known that the science module, upon completion of the ISS operation, will be undocked with subsequent operation as part of the ROSS station. Just a lot of plans and a berth and jointly with the PRC, and a nuclear tug !?, - "and where is the money Zin" !!!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 2 August 2021 19: 24
      -3
      as part of the ROSS station
      Which is not on paper yet !? fellow
  • Poschli
    Poschli 2 August 2021 11: 00
    +1
    Having looked at the general view of the ISS, you come to the conclusion that the kagal of "cosmonauts", "astronauts" and the astrologers who joined them did not study the material. The loose structure of the ISS must necessarily give, at the slightest impact / from spacecraft docking, from micrometeorites / additional loads, alternating stresses in structures - hence fatigue cracks, etc.
    The compartments of the ISS, assembled in a closed triangle, will strengthen the ISS by an order of magnitude, but for this it is necessary to teach the strength of materials, which officials cannot reach from outer space.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 2 August 2021 19: 26
      -4
      but for this it is necessary to teach strength materials, to which officials from outer space do not get their hands on it.
      But some will sing, then they will start dancing: the Rogozin Song and Dance Ensemble, in 2025. drinks
    2. Keer
      Keer 2 August 2021 23: 57
      +1
      So there you need solar panels, and devices and so on, hang out, 'outside', and if you try to bring the modules into a segment of the Shukhov tower, then this will not work.
  • Going
    Going 2 August 2021 12: 10
    0
    Perhaps, of course, Roscosmos knows what we do not know. But so far everything looks like this.

    The second option is more interesting. Perhaps the resource of the modules will allow them to be operated after 2024. And not just to operate, but by undocking from the ISS. So to speak, in the form of a national orbital base. This would be a more interesting option.


    I would very much like to believe that this is so, and we have already begun to build a new station, modestly keeping silent about it.
  • Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 2 August 2021 12: 20
    0
    the entire ISS practically from our large modules
    Star - Science - Pier (launching soon) - Dawn - Dawn - Search - a couple of trucks
    I think we can pull ROSS without any problems ourselves
    1. Cosm22
      Cosm22 2 August 2021 16: 09
      +1
      What kind of nonsense?
      Have you even seen the station in the picture?
      The ISS RS does not even reach 20% by mass and up to 30% by sealed volume of the general structure of the station.
      The ISS RS SB with Nauka does not even give out 10% of the electricity generated by the entire station.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 2 August 2021 19: 23
        +1
        The ISS RS SB with Nauka does not even give out 10% of the electricity generated by the entire station.
        They will attach the Nuclon and "normally" its reactor - up to 1 MW (after all, they advertise that there is a nuclear power plant of a megawatt class laughing ), will be dispersed and will glow beautifully in orbit, it will be visible even at night from the Earth, only you will have to wait - until the 2030s-40s, but for now they will be mothballed there! (it was sarcasm) wink
      2. sevryuk
        sevryuk 2 August 2021 19: 41
        -2
        Haloperidol! Or a couple of phenazepam tablets. Alcohol-free.
  • Alexey Kartashov
    Alexey Kartashov 2 August 2021 13: 18
    +7
    "ISS began to rotate erratically" - bring the author haloperidol.
  • Vasya Geologist
    Vasya Geologist 2 August 2021 14: 07
    +10
    And I congratulate Dmitry Rogozin on the successful launch and successful docking of the module with the ISS. This launch showed that we can put large modules into orbit and have all the competencies for this. In addition, 13 billion rubles (according to some sources, 18) will not be wasted, but went into action.
  • dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky 2 August 2021 14: 30
    -5
    Yes, it’s unusual to realize that the project, laid down almost in the last century, is capable of docking with the newest station of the 21st century, which is likely to be launched. Experience suggests that "Science" will approach the station only with a docking station. Everything else will be either completely superfluous, or its composition will be archaic, unnecessary, and the modern, as always, will not be enough. And it will become like a suitcase without a handle.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 August 2021 18: 51
      +3
      All docking stations will be standard, there is no point in creating new ones.
  • zenion
    zenion 2 August 2021 18: 58
    -4
    Everything goes to what the plant in Space will do. If the plant does not work out, then there will be one workshop. And they will produce on it, which have no analogues in the Universe, carnations and horseshoes for the army.
  • Intruder
    Intruder 2 August 2021 19: 19
    -3
    The road to the ISS took eight whole days. This is a kind of anti-record
    This is a shame, gentlemen, because even in the country that the majority remembers and respects (not for cartoons and laudatory PR companies): the absolute record for a short docking belongs to the USSR: two unmanned ships in April 1968 docked 47 minutes after launch or 38 minutes after hatching.
    1. Drummer
      Drummer 14 August 2021 15: 06
      0
      The eight-day flight was originally planned, there is no crime here.
  • sevryuk
    sevryuk 2 August 2021 19: 39
    +1
    Oh, these polymers ... Have you already sold VO? Nothing, let's go to the "Bulletin of Mordovia".
  • dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky 2 August 2021 19: 48
    0
    Quote: Intruder
    The road to the ISS took eight whole days. This is a kind of anti-record
    This is a shame, gentlemen, because even in the country that the majority remembers and respects (not for cartoons and laudatory PR companies): the absolute record for a short docking belongs to the USSR: two unmanned ships in April 1968 docked 47 minutes after launch or 38 minutes after hatching.

    So what's the shame? That the unit flew close, with practically the same speed as the ISS? Or was it burning somewhere and the delay was catastrophic? Perhaps, different evolutions were carried out there, because the devil knows how old the project, and control algorithms have been used since then. Perhaps the management has already junked on the way. The engines, didn't they turn on from something? Or they confused the teams (I repeat, incredible junk was flying, in terms of project and implementation terms). Maybe there were no craftsmen who were developing this boodyagu, and the primer with the texts was taken apart by letter? Finally, high-speed connections require a lot of fuel. There, when docking. Science is a very massive thing, apparently, this resource was not enough there.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 2 August 2021 20: 42
      +1
      the project devil knows how old
      And maybe then, what the devil knows what country launched and its citizens ruled in emergency situations, with their sweaty and crooked hands, the victims of the exam !?
      The engines, didn't they turn on from something? Or they confused the teams (I repeat, incredible junk was flying, in terms of project and implementation terms).
      Well, of course, if we take into account that there are not all sorts of object-oriented interpreters of a high level of abstraction and it is necessary, surprisingly, also about - approximation of functions, and fast Fourier transforms to remember to the heap !? This is to prevent the correction engines from being cut randomly ... fellow
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 3 August 2021 22: 38
        +2
        it seems to me that the faulty software in terms of production time belongs to the same galaxy that destroyed our interplanetary expedition at one time, there too, something started wrong as a result of a failure
  • dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky 2 August 2021 19: 54
    +2
    Quote: zenion
    Everything goes to what the plant in Space will do. If the plant does not work out, then there will be one workshop. And they will produce on it, which have no analogues in the Universe, carnations and horseshoes for the army.

    You confirmed. that the horses have nothing to do here. Horseshoes are not made here. Go to Avito.
    1. pecan of Ivanov
      pecan of Ivanov 2 August 2021 21: 49
      0
      And for people like you mediocrity, plugs for 5 points, Schaub did not smell!
  • pecan of Ivanov
    pecan of Ivanov 2 August 2021 21: 43
    +3
    The person who slapped this article is far from astronautics!
  • Crabio
    Crabio 2 August 2021 22: 04
    0
    How tired of this endless whining and pessimism. There, in space, people work. Our people. Wish them better luck. Whoever says anything, but I'm glad that the module was sent and everything worked out.
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  • Living7111972
    Living7111972 3 August 2021 00: 15
    -2
    and that's it ...
  • Andrey Mansurov
    Andrey Mansurov 3 August 2021 01: 35
    -1
    Well, they wrote off the money. Since 1995, how many? Billions. So they launched it so that no one would check it, and never what kind of "science" it is. Will flood. The journalist has become predictable.
  • ultra
    ultra 3 August 2021 07: 32
    +2
    "Eight days ago we learned that Science will fly" .... - you can not read further.
  • Old Orc
    Old Orc 3 August 2021 09: 32
    0
    I would like to note that there is a third option. Elections. Crimea is already Ours. We won 5 times in Syria. The Olympics are going well, but not enough. Swan Lake is already dry. Hockey is far away. Space remains. And after the elections, at least the Pacific Ocean, accept and write off the cost overruns.
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 3 August 2021 10: 51
    -1
    I'm certainly glad that science flew and docked.

    Obviously this is a success!
    This is the right and right decision to send it. I will not touch upon corruption and other unpleasant topics.

    Science is, first of all, the success of young engineers, former students! They will have to collect Ross. When starting science, young people have gained invaluable experience!
    The experiments are declared necessary, again you need to revive the experience!
    With the launch of science, a new young generation of space explorers has appeared in our country, with pure souls, with enthusiasm and a desire to make new discoveries and achievements in space research. And this is priceless!
  • Maxwrx
    Maxwrx 3 August 2021 12: 42
    +2
    Let's write a few facts
    1. ISS will be extended to 28 years, 1 year of science integration, total 6 years of work
    2. There is a benefit from Science, the problem is that the module took too long to build and it is already outdated, but of course, compared to other Russian modules, this is a huge step forward (again, the experience that needs to be passed, the following modules will be thought out taking into account the exploitation of science)
    3. The number of Russian experiments has always been less and less applied or commercial. And in general, a lot has been studied. Every year it becomes more and more difficult to find something useful for science or economics. Apart from growing crystals, I don't see anything useful here. In comparison with the American and even the Japanese segment, we are far behind in the return (scientific, technical, economic) from the station.
    4. In any case, I am glad that we finally launched it - this is an absolute plus for our astronautics!
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 5 August 2021 19: 12
      -1
      And in general, a lot has been studied. Every year it becomes more and more difficult to find something useful for science or economics. Apart from growing crystals, I don't see anything useful here.

      The pulsar navigation system in deep space, which will be tested on the "Science", is useless ??? !!! Why then did the Spectr - RG launch? Is viewing the sky in ultraviolet the same useless? Is this before the launch of a domestic telescope? "Drop - 2" is useless ??? Do you have any idea about the topic of the article?
      Sincerely
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  • Weddinger
    Weddinger 4 August 2021 02: 57
    +1
    The ISS was fortunate enough to have the Nauka engines turned on AFTER docking.
    If an unauthorized activation would occur when approaching the station, the module could ram it or, at best, fly away to nowhere.

    True, reconnecting the module to a new station without fuel is difficult, but that is a matter of the future and problems can be solved as they arise
  • Yarik
    Yarik 4 August 2021 16: 01
    +1
    The consequences of jumping on the trampoline of Rogozin and his entire hop-team. A disgrace to the whole world and a very sad and unpromising future of our space.
  • fed2912
    fed2912 4 August 2021 19: 20
    0
    Is the author somehow really connected with Roscosm?
  • Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 5 August 2021 14: 46
    +2
    In orbit, the same is happening as on earth. The gradual loss of qualified specialists, obsolescence and loss of technology, and a bunch of other problems. With the Soviet Union, a lot has gone and irrevocably.
  • military pensioner
    military pensioner 6 August 2021 07: 49
    +2
    "... A bad option is one in which Roscosmos has a very poor idea of ​​what to do next ..."
    And who is there to represent if we are headed by an international journalist, and among the TWENTY leaders of Roscosmos, there is ONLY ONE professional - pilot-cosmonaut Sergey Konstantinovich Krikalev !!! The rest is all sorts of different managers. And they wanted to get rid of him because of the disagreement to arrange a film studio from the ISS in orbit. "
    Ugh, Russian space and science is turning into a branch of Kashchenko ...
  • ont65
    ont65 2 September 2021 12: 14
    0
    There will be no public debriefing of the "flights" from Roscosmos. It’s not those times in the yard, but you don’t need to beat the drum either. Everyone who prepared this launch and the module itself did everything in their power. There are no contradictions in the assessments of the reasons for the contingency situation. The module software was designed for integration with the station, which was impossible, otherwise they would not have kept control of the module by the MCC until the reset was completed or the remaining fuel was used up. And the on-board computer in this case should not have completed the docking operation normally by transferring control to the station, otherwise control would have been lost altogether. It depends on which side to judge, such will be the causes of the problems. Some will say a software failure, others will explain it by operators' carelessness. And of course Roskosmos will not publish the entire list of planned works and experiments in the media. Criticism must have non-contrived starting points if it claims to be objective. And there is not enough data for that.
  • p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 12 September 2021 13: 50
    -1
    Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
    Quote: hrych
    в

    Idealists went to astronautics - not for money, why half of the people are there now - it's not entirely clear
    I am also an idealist, and used to bring to the ideal, everything that I do.
    Therefore, by education, he is an engineer technologist of an aircraft of the Soviet batch.
    As they said at our department - an error in the third decimal place is a 10 km miss past the target.
    The motive to write the above is that mediocrity and carelessness penetrate rocket technology.
    What we saw on the SCIENCE module is happening - endless failures and an unacceptable risk for the ISS crew - spontaneous engine starts by software is not a simple emergency. I'm not even saying that Roskosmos and Russia in its person have become a laughing stock not only for specialists, but also publicly humiliated all over the world ...
    In the USSR, responsible (and in this case, irresponsible) employees would have been removed long ago.
    And the Civil Code would have received a severe reprimand.

    On 9.9.21, an incident with smoke (fire?) Occurred in the Russian Zvezda module on the ISS, which is another confirmation of the above.