Ankle boots defeated tarpaulin boots

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From the moment army boots began to appear to replace the "classic" boots (primarily the legendary "tarpaulin"), disputes began to flare up about what is better for a soldier. As usual, two irreconcilable camps have become isolated. Some are completely sure that there can be nothing better than ankle boots in the comfort and efficiency of resisting dirt, ice, heat and water. Others believe that ankle boots lose in this regard to ordinary tarpaulin boots if they fit well on the leg.

History military boots, which we call "ankle boots", officially dates back to the first half of the XX century. Their active introduction fell on the period of the Second World War. Moreover, they were used mainly by military personnel of foreign military contingents, including Nazi troops.



In the Soviet army, the spread of army boots was fraught with difficulties. First of all, in terms of the fact that preference was given to boots. There is evidence that this also had its own economic component - the production of boots was cheaper, since the technology was mastered decades ago.

Today, individual units no longer imagine themselves in tarpaulin boots. For special forces soldiers (and not only special forces), ankle boots have become a common piece of equipment that is irreplaceable. Today we can safely say that the ankle boots "won" the tarpaulin boots.

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    1. -9
      30 July 2021 11: 09
      Kirzach is, by and large, cardboard impregnated with resin.
      And then the socks won over the footcloths.
      1. +7
        30 July 2021 11: 47
        Quote: knn54
        Kirzach is, by and large, cardboard impregnated with resin.

        A substitute for leather KRZ, or rather a rubber substitute for leather. Everything started from the poverty of the country in the pre-war period.
      2. -7
        30 July 2021 12: 26
        Quote: knn54
        Ankle boots defeated tarpaulin boots
        belay It was said loudly, there was no competition. Boots are footwear for Europe, just "the loot won the evil" (Chubais) This means that nothing good will happen in the future. In a serious war in Europe, we will all switch to boots.
        Quote: knn54
        Kirzach is, by and large, cardboard impregnated with resin.
        And then the socks won over the footcloths.
        The dispute is not over, there was no serious war. Americans in WWII came to Europe in boots and what did they fight?
      3. +17
        30 July 2021 12: 49
        It was not the boots that won, but the motorization of the infantry. If you ride "on armor" or trucks and occasionally dismount for direct combat, then ankle boots are naturally better. But if you figure out 30-kilometer marches every day, then you won't get enough of any ankle boots (and especially socks for them). The economy of war, you know. While the wheels / caterpillars are carrying the infantry, there will be ankle boots, there will be no wheels - we will pull on our boots.
        1. +1
          3 September 2021 19: 46
          I have nothing against ankle boots. especially since I myself did not wear them. But about socks for boots, I have a professional opinion, and it is such a person who talks about socks in boots, he himself never wore such a set. for socks are rubbed feet into the blood, especially during long journeys. Conclusion - with boots, only PORTS!
      4. +18
        30 July 2021 13: 09
        "Socks beat footwear"
        Is that good?
        Yes, to walk along the road, although in the forest for a limited time and in a comfortable room, to change socks is more convenient in peacetime.
        And if you need to walk in the forest, in the swamps for a week, from the shelters only a tent, a damp dugout, then a footcloth is indispensable. Its absorbency, strength, the ability to rewind with a dry end onto the foot will not be provided by more than one sock. Yes, and you can wear a footcloth with ankle boots, these are not shoes, but also a hybrid of boots and boots.
        1. 0
          4 August 2021 18: 33
          Quote: Alekseev
          from shelters only a tent, a damp dugout

          Have you there the First World War has not ended yet, or have you stayed so long in the partisans ?!
      5. +1
        1 August 2021 13: 44
        tarpaulin impregnated with water-repellent mixture ...
    2. +20
      30 July 2021 11: 12
      ***
      To wash "boots" in the Indian Ocean -
      - Doesn't sound ...
      ***
      1. -8
        30 July 2021 11: 19
        Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
        To wash "boots" in the Indian Ocean -
        - Doesn't sound ...

        And "wash kirzachi ...." sounds? what
        1. +2
          31 July 2021 17: 54
          Kirzachi sound ............ drinks
    3. +13
      30 July 2021 11: 18
      I'm not a fan of watching videos, better read it.
      Their boots have probably served, and served with honor. You can erect a monument to them.
      Life changes and shoes change. Now there are other possibilities.
      I did not serve in ankle boots, it is not for me to judge them in the army.
      There are houses, a good thing for walking in the woods and off-road.
      1. +4
        30 July 2021 11: 49
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        Their boots have probably served, and served with honor. You can erect a monument to them.

        We can say that they walked all the way to Berlin throughout the war.
      2. +5
        30 July 2021 11: 52
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        There are houses, a good thing for walking in the woods and off-road.

        For mushrooms for berries, a good thing, and for hunting I wear tarpaulin.
      3. +6
        30 July 2021 17: 25
        I served in boots and ankle boots - boots rule! In the field in winter, spring-autumn footcloths and boots - EXCELLENT !!!
    4. +5
      30 July 2021 11: 18
      who at least once put on "ankle boots" will not wear boots again)
      - (mobility is different)
      1. +1
        30 July 2021 11: 23
        I put on boots with a footcloth, I'm just too lazy to lace up ...
        1. -1
          30 July 2021 12: 14
          Alexey, soon you won't find NATURAL footcloths with fire in the daytime.
          In the camps (military department, after the 4th year of the university), instead of footcloths, they wore socks, quickly and as usual.
          And some (even after an urgent one) were just lazy.
      2. +4
        30 July 2021 11: 33
        When the command sounds: "in the gun", there was nothing better than short barnyard boots with a footcloth, they dressed in a second, and you will put on ankle boots with a toe much slower, in combat conditions this is very important, but sleeping in ankle boots will not rest your legs ...
        1. -2
          1 August 2021 17: 45
          In addition, the leg is clogged in the tibia and does not breathe.
      3. +4
        30 July 2021 20: 23
        When I served as an urgent, none of us saw ankle boots "live" - ​​tarpaulin, barley and chrome boots. I have dragged through the kirzach for three years and have no complaints about them. smile
        1. +1
          31 July 2021 02: 58
          Temple only officers and ensign were worn.
          1. 0
            31 July 2021 03: 50
            True, but in my time there were no ensigns yet, there were just over-conscripts.
        2. +1
          1 August 2021 13: 51
          After 9 months, I wore out the tarpaulins to the holes in the boat .... There would be barnyard boots for everyone, and even some anatomical ones, few would have dreamed of ankle boots ..
    5. +3
      30 July 2021 11: 19
      Hmm. And how long will it take in a large-scale conflict until they return to the boots?)
      1. +7
        30 July 2021 11: 38
        Yes, on the very first day, everyone will change into rubber boots. and there the kirzachs will be brought up with footcloths and felt boots, as rotten legs will begin to fall off.
        it is on the sands and on the parade grounds everything is beautiful, and in the trenches and forest fields - water and frost
      2. -1
        30 July 2021 17: 26
        Until the first march of the throw
    6. +7
      30 July 2021 11: 23
      Ankle boots in the mountains are much more comfortable, but again with footcloths. On the plain, in a swamp, in mud, boots are more practical and cheaper. No, I will not trade
      1. +3
        30 July 2021 11: 57
        Quote: NDR-791
        On the plain, in a swamp, in mud, boots are more practical and cheaper. No, I will not trade

        I will not trade!
      2. +4
        30 July 2021 15: 02
        Quote: NDR-791
        Ankle boots in the mountains are much more comfortable, but again with footcloths. On the plain, in a swamp, in mud, boots are more practical and cheaper. No, I will not trade

        Yes In the mountains, lace-up boots are more comfortable than boots. We wore ankle boots with footcloths, it worked out fine. Footcloths can be calcined over a fire, beaten off (exhausted like a rug). Ordinary crocodile ankle boots - the same tarpaulin, on alarm, a footcloth with a parachute can be driven into the boot with your foot.
        Six months later, soft, leather shoes with soft rubber soles were "rummaged", the step was quieter.
        My grandfather learned to wear leather, barnyard boots in the village and wind up footcloths in his youth.
        In a swamp, or in a ford, you stumble in boots, the bootlegs are scooped up, it will be hard for the body. It is better to walk in the mud in stockings or OZK overalls.

        There were already several articles on VO about the comparison of boots and boots.
        1. +1
          31 July 2021 20: 03
          The real "user" is immediately visible! Footcloths with ankle boots are generally a topic, they are rigidly fixed in the boot and do not get lost, unlike boots, and we had footcloths made of waffle towels especially chic! Snow, water, mud and branches behind the bootleg, yes, I felt it in fullness. Plus, people apparently never ran fast in boots. Especially when a sniper is working from brilliant green, you are in one direction, and boots from your feet to the other. Fortunately, they figured out just to tie them on the leg with ropes. By the way, who needs free legs for rest or just in the heat, you just stupidly find laces of greater length, do not tighten them and you get boots from the boots!
    7. -7
      30 July 2021 11: 27
      The difference between ankle boots and boots and their convenience, only for those who compare them. My opinion is that now the army needs new shoes, such as sneakers, there are winter, summer and off-season options ... Ankle boots have outlived their already at this stage ... There is nothing to dispute.
      1. +9
        30 July 2021 11: 33
        the question rests on something else, if the military conflict is dragging on, then in the convenience of the production of equipment, which will be replenished faster, then it will win, then that footcloths will UNWAYS win socks even to the grandmother does not need to go
        1. +7
          30 July 2021 12: 00
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          then in the convenience of the production of equipment, which will be replenished faster, then it will win, then that footcloths will UNWAYS win against socks

          You can't find enough socks, but you can find footcloths everywhere. The Wehrmacht is a witness to this.
          1. +3
            30 July 2021 13: 44
            socks have another HUGE minus, maximum a month of constant field socks and they will rub on the heels and in the toes
      2. +5
        30 July 2021 11: 41
        There is a reason in your judgment. In the mountains, for example, in my opinion, shoes like sneakers are better. In the same Afghanistan, "Kimry" were preferable to boots.
      3. -1
        30 July 2021 14: 39
        Tactical shoes are too expensive for everyone. This is essentially what sneakers are. Ankle boots are a massive solution for a mobile army quite suitable for themselves. And as my dad said in Afghanistan, adidas were the best shoes)))
      4. +1
        30 July 2021 15: 08
        Quote: Borvox
        The difference between ankle boots and boots and their convenience, only for those who compare them. My opinion is that now the army needs new shoes, such as sneakers, there are winter, summer and off-season options ... Ankle boots have outlived their already at this stage ... There is nothing to dispute.

        Did you serve in the army? Modern trekking shoes with ankle (short boot that covers the ankle and the lower part of the lower leg - boots) - there is a so-called. army shoes.
        For you, sneakers, for tourists, for the military - trekking footwear by type (shoes, low shoes, boots).
    8. +7
      30 July 2021 11: 31
      Every thing is good when it is good and in place.
    9. +1
      30 July 2021 11: 35
      Ankle boots end where the asphalt ends.
      1. +6
        30 July 2021 12: 11
        Any military footwear comes to the trash if you hardly get out of the field. Wore both boots and ankle boots in the army.
    10. +19
      30 July 2021 11: 38
      "whoever has put on" ankle boots "at least once will not wear boots again)"

      And here you are wrong. It is one thing to have a parade ground or mountains (in Afghanistan, in general, the Ministry of Defense used to dress the spetsura and paratroopers in Adidas sneakers, although not all of them), but the mud in the trenches is another matter. We in Donbass willingly used both a tarpaulin and civilian rubber and rag boots at such a time.

      I am a personal person.
      1. +6
        30 July 2021 11: 51
        Oleg hi You have a wonderful "Deer Boy"!
        1. +6
          30 July 2021 12: 03
          It's true! But roe deer are rare in our country - we don't shoot, but we snapped wild boars, and even took them prisoner.
          1. +3
            30 July 2021 12: 51
            taak, and the Geneva convention ??
            1. +3
              30 July 2021 13: 40
              Quote: novel xnumx
              and the Geneva

              It does not apply to lard!
              Roma hi
              1. +3
                30 July 2021 14: 06
                it's alive .. it looks with its eyes .. Volodya hi
                1. +1
                  30 July 2021 14: 09
                  And when the lard - no longer!
          2. 0
            30 July 2021 13: 45
            Quote: URAL72
            This is yes!

            So "deer" are not only with horns, but in a saucepan, but afterwards and in a helmet and graze in the trenches!
            1. +1
              30 July 2021 14: 02
              Ahh! These yes. There were times...
              1. +2
                30 July 2021 14: 06
                Quote: URAL72
                These yes

                About them and the conversation! Hello Donetsk! My uncle lived in Stalino-Donetsk .....
    11. +6
      30 July 2021 11: 39
      If we ate to fight, then I would go in boots ...
    12. +2
      30 July 2021 11: 52
      The ideal option is a shortened "landing" boot with cotton / felt inserts. Berts will not dress quickly and running in it is also a pleasure. The kirzach will be heavy and if you don't know how to knit footcloths, rarely any of the recruits can do this, the first run and the legs of a fat northern fox ...
      1. +3
        31 July 2021 03: 08
        Kirzach in comparison with yuft is a fluff.
    13. +3
      30 July 2021 12: 04
      Yeah, we won. All these lads, who threw out their boots in Mozdok and bought ankle boots, began to urgently look for boots in Chechnya and Ingushetia. I understand sneakers for a day or two marches. But I don't understand ankle boots and socks.
    14. +1
      30 July 2021 12: 36
      My preference will be boots, combined-arms ankle boots severely erase my legs and spoil my legs, I watched for two races, 100 people per race in the medical unit were lying with their feet, so it’s hard to say who the kito won.
    15. Eug
      +4
      30 July 2021 12: 53
      He considered the boots a relic not only of the past - the year before last, but when in the camps after the 5th course they put boots on - as they say, imbued with convenience. I learned to wind the footcloth quite quickly, and the forward march was 10 km. at 3 weeks ended without rubbed legs. Until now, for digging work in the garden, I use a tarpaulin with footcloths - albeit with shortened tops. Here's another advantage of boots - shin protection from branches and other crap.
    16. +5
      30 July 2021 12: 59
      An almost endless argument. There are many opinions and all are subjective. For me, it’s better for daily wearing in the PPD, and as soon as we go to the field in autumn and spring - almost always in boots. A more reliable thing when compared to boots. The legs remain more intact, as experience shows.
    17. +2
      30 July 2021 15: 30
      I read the memoirs of a front-line soldier, an artilleryman of the "forty-five", it seems, were called "Notes of a" suicide bomber ", and so, for three years at the front he had to wear American boots, received a lend-lens, and tarpaulin boots, so he definitely gives preference to tarpaulins , they are much more convenient and practical in the field. In the army, I personally had to wear only boots, but after that, already in civilian life, I had to go hunting both in wrestlers and in boots. In my opinion, for a short stay in nature in central Russia in dry weather, ankle boots are good, well, probably, even in the mountains and the desert, or if you move more on asphalt or by transport, and in all other cases it is better to wear a tarpaulin, especially with shortened and adjustable by the fullness of the bootlegs.
      1. -1
        30 July 2021 16: 19
        well, probably still in the mountains and the desert,

        Some mountaineering boots suspiciously resemble kirzachi - the materials are high-tech, the design is modern, but the characteristic high tops are in place and have not gone anywhere ...
      2. 0
        31 July 2021 12: 28
        And from the aesthetic point of view, ankle boots with tucked trousers look dull in comparison with boots. Photo of my boots, maybe I'm just old and grunt
        1. 0
          19 September 2021 05: 08
          if you look at the trends in fashion, now some modern pants look a lot like these same trousers, wide on the hips, and narrowing down ...
          1. 0
            19 September 2021 08: 37
            In terms of freedom of movement, such a cut of trousers as breeches surpasses the modern cut that is narrowed at the hips.
    18. +1
      30 July 2021 16: 22
      If you put a regiment in trenches for a week in the fall in Russia, what will be at the bottom in the trenches and how to walk in ankle boots. Before the war, the Red Army had the same boots, but for some reason the Red Army ended the war in boots.
    19. +1
      30 July 2021 18: 51
      what is the demand here, when some did not serve in the army, and also, obviously someone saws the loot, the price of boots and ankle boots fellow ! there is a wide field, in terms of hygiene, the boots are better, in civilian life I missed them)) I wonder what the standards for putting on boots are now! while the match burns? conscripts had to leave kirzachi, who wore boots, would not wear ankle boots, "in the cold winter season" wink
    20. +1
      31 July 2021 00: 36
      It is necessary to separate two words from one concept: "tarpaulin" and "boots". Before the advent of the kirzachs, the entire Red Army (except for the commanders) wore boots with windings - that was still a joy. By the way, not only the Red Army - Poles, Romanians and others. When at the beginning of the war the army was increased several times, the shoes were sorely lacking, boots were even supplied under Lend-Lease. The development of the technology for the production of tarpaulin is a revolution in the shoe business. But 80 years have passed. Requests and, most importantly, capabilities have changed. Kirza was supposed to be a thing of the past, but why did they abandon boots and footcloths? Craft boots from modern materials, use new materials for the production of footcloths. And what is more convenient and faster to put on and more comfortable to wear is not difficult to experience.
      1. 0
        1 August 2021 09: 24
        military fashion, however ... A half-million peacetime army can of course be shod in ankle boots and sneakers ... But a conflict with an increase in numbers ten or more times will easily change into technological cheap kirzachi
    21. +2
      31 July 2021 06: 14
      Lovers of ankle boots can face such a disease of the legs as "trench foot", from this scourge the American army suffered greatly during World War II during the hostilities in Europe in winter. The combination of near-zero temperature, high humidity in the absence of "airing" the foot in the boot and circulatory disorders due to squeezing of the lower leg and foot, when for several days it was not possible to remove and dry the shoes and the legs themselves, led to serious damage to the skin of the foot. Our and German soldiers were not familiar with such a disease, the boots had better hygienic properties for ventilation of the feet.
      Boots do not allow you to be in them all the time in damp, cold weather, and in the war you are in your shoes for weeks, taking them off only for a short period without the risk of being left without your legs is possible only in boots or ordinary low boots, without lacing them tight.
      1. -1
        31 July 2021 13: 18
        Before writing, it's worth dealing with the hardware part, so let's start

        Our and German soldiers were not familiar with such a disease


        Prevention of trench foot - wearing waterproof shoes, creating conditions for drying it, draining trenches... All these activities during the Great Patriotic War provided almost complete absence of cases T. s. in the Soviet Army.


        Great Medical Encyclopedia.

        If you are constantly in a flooded trench in tarpaulins, you will receive a trench foot. Simply because from constant contact with water, the kirzach will miss it, the footcloth will become damp and you yourself know what will happen. Therefore, for the prevention of a trench foot, the primary thing is the correct equipment of the fortifications and the provision of drying the legs, as well as generally warming up the personnel. Further

        Boots do not allow you to be in them all the time in damp, cold weather, and in the war you are in your shoes for weeks, taking them off only for a short period without the risk of being left without your legs is possible only in boots or ordinary low boots, without lacing them tight.


        Boots are exactly what are allowed to be constantly and constantly worn, but only on condition that they are modern membrane boots with a modern toe. For comparison, tarpaulin and especially cotton (for an understanding person, "cotton" is immediately a diagnosis) footcloth, by definition, does not allow this, it is not at all the same resistance to water and vapor permeability.
        1. 0
          31 July 2021 13: 24
          The main thing is tight shoes that interfere with blood circulation and ventilation, Americans are so dumb as to neglect prevention. And the boots are trying to tighten. Probably you have not used footcloths and do not know how they dry on your leg, you just need to rewind them periodically. And don't compare the soldier's ankle boots with high-tech trekking
          1. 0
            31 July 2021 16: 16
            Americans are so stupid to neglect prevention


            And even more, here is an excerpt from the memoirs of General Omar Bradley

            In just five weeks of the winter offensive, we lost 64 men, and almost half of them on the 20-kilometer sector of the front of the 1st Army. To top it off - as if combat losses alone were not enough - about 12 thousand people fell ill with rheumatism of the legs and were also out of order. Although patients with rheumatism belonged to the category of non-combat losses, nevertheless, rheumatism inflicted heavy losses on us at the front, where every soldier who was out of action weakened the power of our offensive. Diseases of rheumatism of the feet were caused by constant dampness and prolonged exposure to water... It led to permanent damage to the peripheral vessels of the lower extremities. Of the 12 thousand soldiers who fell ill with rheumatism and were evacuated to the rear, most, according to the doctors, were forever unfit for combat service. Many were left disabled for life.

            By the end of January, the disease of rheumatism of the legs had reached such a large scale that the American command was at a standstill. We were completely unprepared for this disaster, partly as a result of our own negligence; by the time we began to instruct the soldiers on how to care for their feet and what to do if they got wet, rheumatism had already spread through the army with the swiftness of the plague. In only a few divisions of army groups, the incidence of morbidity was relatively low, since the commanders of these divisions were more agile. They installed special dryers in which the socks were dried daily.

            When the first autumn rains came in November and the cold began, our troops were ill-prepared for the winter campaign. This was partly to blame for the September supply crisis, since during our rapid advance on the Rhine, I deliberately preferred cargo of ammunition and [479] gasoline over cargo with winter uniforms. As a result, we found ourselves without warm clothes; the lack of warm footwear was especially acute. We were putting ourselves at risk in doing this, and now we suffered from our own hindsight.


            As the saying goes "no comments". Moreover, under "rheumatism" the general clearly means the trench foot, since rheumatism is not caused either by dampness or cold.

            they try to tighten the boots. Probably you have not used footcloths and do not know how they dry on your leg, you just need to rewind them periodically. And don't compare the soldier's ankle boots with high-tech trekking


            1. Too tight footwear is only one of the factors and a minor one, the primary is the constant presence in water and liquid mud at about zero temperatures
            2. Apparently, you have never had such an experience, not that the footcloth cannot dry out in a trench where water is ankle-deep, and you yourself will be completely wet and frozen. This is when you walked on the parade ground, you could rewind the footcloth and it even dried up.
            3. It is not entirely clear what you mean by "soldier's ankle boots" if, for example, there are enough modern models of ankle boots (and none of them are tracking ones), including those that were planned to be issued to soldiers. But instead they started to give out a very bad copy of the retro decorative (!!!) Corcoran Marauder.
      2. +2
        1 August 2021 17: 52
        Finally a sensible thought. I also wrote that the legs do not breathe in the ankle boots. In general, the Russian army was many times shod in a foreign manner, and these experiments ended with boots.
    22. -1
      31 July 2021 11: 42
      I remember how, on an urgent basis, the officer told how good it was with a kirzach and party women, but at the same time he himself was in ankle boots for some reason, and, moreover, in lightweight for the summer, heat.)))
      1. 0
        31 July 2021 11: 56
        lightweight for summer, heat.)))

        We just forgot about the existence of canvas lightweight boots for the summer.

        In the conditions of the barracks, you can wear ankle boots with socks. There are trekking boots, but quality boots are very expensive. But in the heat of my 30s, I was comfortable in worn tarpaulin boots with holes in the fold.
        1. 0
          31 July 2021 13: 54
          By the way, I also had holes in the fold, I did not understand why, others did not seem to have, but in the heat it was not cooler.
    23. 0
      31 July 2021 13: 59
      And when, after the boots, he shod his ankle boots, the comparison I had to honestly say was not in favor of the former, although I don’t know, maybe the officer’s boots are better than the soldier’s.
      1. +1
        31 July 2021 17: 31
        when after boots he shod ankle boots, then the comparison I have to be honest was not in favor of the first

        And when I put on sneakers after the ankle boots, the comparison ... everything has its place. In the conditions of a military town, one thing, and in the field, another
        1. -1
          1 August 2021 16: 57
          Yes, and in the field, ankle boots have a place to be, in some moments they hold the ankles better and the tarpaulins take too much moisture into themselves.
    24. -1
      31 July 2021 21: 39
      Quote: Grandfather
      In the field in winter, spring-autumn footcloths and boots - EXCELLENT !!!

      And footcloths wound on socks are doubly distinguished - there is no need, in principle, to rewind them all day.
      1. -1
        1 August 2021 16: 53
        Yes, the footcloths fit better on the toe.
    25. +1
      2 August 2021 15: 39
      He wore both boots and ankle boots. It is more comfortable to walk in the tibia, the leg is better fixed. The pluses are over. In summer, their feet just burn in them, in winter, they freeze accordingly. If in the field for a few days, boots are definitely better.
      1. 0
        2 August 2021 19: 23
        Quote: Lykases1
        If in the field for a few days, boots are definitely better.

        Boots are generally better, remember, the tsars in the portraits in boots, Stalin with the generals in boots, and both of them walked in them not through forests and swamps, but on the parquet floor of palaces and the Kremlin, of course the tarpaulin and yuft boots we know are not ice, If you scoop up all of it, don't pour it out, something will remain, dry for a long time, for me the best boots would be just from a tarpaulin, something similar is produced by the Yaroslavl factory, they of course get wet, but not immediately, but then they dry quickly
        1. 0
          3 August 2021 16: 05
          And the Germans wore barnyards with a short, wide bootleg. Two grenades were pushed into the bootlegs. Then they were thrown with a cry - catch. And special troops walked in boots. And then during the parachuting, the boots flew off. They were immediately recognized by these boots. Then they switched to kirzachi.
    26. 0
      3 August 2021 16: 03
      There was a Jew named Oba, he was brainy. He did not argue, but said - when he died, the first three years are difficult, scary, but then you get used to it.
    27. +1
      6 August 2021 00: 27
      The boots suffered innocently, for the sins of others. Simply, together with footcloths, they became for society the main symbol of the degraded late Soviet and early Russian army. That is why they were disliked.

      Due to petty economy and an indifferent attitude to the needs of the "gray cattle" up to the furniture maker's reforms, the soldier's life differed little from the times of Nicholas II (and it is not yet known in which direction - under the "king-rag" the boots were still made of real leather, yes and half a pound of meat for the day). But what was normal for illiterate half-starved peasants at the beginning of the century was perceived by urban youth at the end of the century as unmotivated bullying.

      And so it happened that the boot was raised on the banner by the army conservatives who wanted to leave everything as it was, and the boot was raised by civilian reformists who wanted to do "as in America." In a changing society, the former naturally lost, and the boot lost with them. He was solemnly sacrificed.

      But the boot itself is not to blame for anything and could well serve. If after the war it changed, improving with the development of technology and the growth of the economy (as the Americans constantly improved their shoes), if it were eventually made from modern materials in good factories, if it had a perfect design and aesthetic appearance (otherwise they seem to be do not sew, but sculpt), if it came complete with the same good shape, equipment and the whole arrangement of army life and relations, then no one would have thought of ritually destroying it. They would be proud of him.
    28. +2
      19 August 2021 21: 10
      I compared kirzachi - summer, barnyard - winter boots and ankle boots. Kirza wins. Lightweight boot and footcloth. In the summer, we didn’t lose our legs. There was a warm footcloth in the frost. And in winter, cowhide boots. Ankle boots because of the sock are not shoes. Footcloths for the war and the field. And they laid it with a newspaper. And army socks made of paper and disposable. Test drive from 92 to 97 years. Even about the breeches HB and PSh Afghans were more convenient HB. There was a time.
    29. 0
      31 August 2021 23: 00
      Ankle boots, like boots, are different.
      There is no point in arguing that it is better. Everyone chooses for himself for the conditions.
      I wore ankle boots made of thick leather and with a hard sole, but it’s okay to walk on stones, but it’s not comfortable to drive in a car. There were ankle boots made of soft leather, with elastic soles, it was okay to ride, walk too, but in the forest, to hunt only in yuft boots.
      Example: they hunted in the Northwestern Federal District in the area of ​​old logging, so they walked on boards with rusty nails without any problems, but a colleague in the so-called "tactical" ankle boots pierced his leg.
    30. +1
      4 September 2021 08: 09
      Ankle boots are lying in the closet. I wear boots in the village all autumn, winter and spring, and in summer in flip flops.
    31. 0
      7 September 2021 04: 06
      It's hard to say, different conditions, different situations. In my opinion, it is necessary to preserve the production of both boots and ankle boots and felt boots.
    32. 0
      10 September 2021 07: 11
      Begin by performing the simplest army commands "Release", "Sing", "Alarm", and then we will say which is better than what, socks or footcloths, boots or ankle boots.
    33. -1
      17 September 2021 10: 24
      At present, apart from North Korea (and that is not a fact), in the armies of which countries still wear boots? Coincidence? .. I don't think so ...

      You can recall tarpaulin boots, an overcoat, a Mosin rifle with warmth and trepidation as much as you like. Undoubtedly, these are objects of great importance for their time.
      But, damn it, the XXI century ... Theoretically, you can return to spears.

      By the way, an active exoskeleton with boots would probably go well ...
      1. 0
        8 November 2021 19: 07
        Yes, on a drum, to each his own. I wear both of them and on the drum
    34. 0
      19 September 2021 05: 28
      Attach a modern sole to the boots so that the foot does not get lost, then there is no replacement for the boots.
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    36. 0
      8 November 2021 19: 05
      With connection!
      The boots have been out of order for 6-7 years already.
      Boots are better

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