Great Britain prepared for the transfer of minesweepers to the Ukrainian Navy, withdrawn from the fleet

Great Britain has long been planning to transfer a number of warships to the Ukrainian naval forces. According to the publication Navy Lookout, we are talking about the ships HMS Ramsy and HMS Blyth. They will be withdrawn from the Royal Navy of Great Britain on August 4, after which they will be solemnly transferred to the Ukrainian the fleet.

Earlier, the Ukrainian Navy agreed to transfer two Sandown-class minesweepers to them. The ships will enter the Naval Forces of Ukraine after an audit, repair and modernization work, as well as the corresponding retraining of the personnel of the Ukrainian fleet, which will serve on these ships.

The agreement on the transfer of minesweepers was recorded in a special memorandum on the implementation of maritime partnership projects between the consortium of the United Kingdom industry and the Ukrainian Navy. It was signed in Odessa aboard the HMS Defender of the Royal Navy of Great Britain.

For the needs of the Ukrainian Navy, it was decided to purchase ships that were part of the British fleet in the period from 1989 to 2001. The technical characteristics of the ships are as follows: length - 52,6 meters, width - 10,5 meters, displacement 450 tons, speed up to 13 knots on a diesel power plant and up to 6,5 knots on an electric unit. The ships are armed with a 30 mm combat module and three 12,7 mm machine guns. The crew of each ship is 34 people. The ships also have an automated mine action control system Atlas Elektronik IMCMS.

Earlier, the Estonian Navy received such ships, and in the 1990s, three of these ships were supplied for the needs of the Saudi Arabian Navy. Estonia currently operates three such minesweepers: EML Admiral Cowan (M313), EML Sakala (M314) and EML Ugandi (M315). In the British fleet they were named HMS Sandown (M101), HMS "Inverness" (M102) and HMS "Bridport" (M105), respectively.

In 2019, the Babcock International shipyard in Fife, Scotland completed the modernization of the Estonian minesweeper EML Admiral Cowan (M313) (formerly HMS Sandown), installed a new hydroacoustic station Thales Sonar 2193, and upgraded the Thales M-CUBE control system.

Ukraine's limited financial capabilities allow the country to acquire only old foreign ships. Great Britain and the United States are the main suppliers of such ships for the modern Ukrainian fleet. True, it is obvious that these ships in any case will not be able to increase the capabilities of the Ukrainian Navy in comparison with the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

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[Killemall]

A new and very promising form of disposal of various rubbish. Anglo-Saxons are extremely practical as always!

[Peak]

Quote: KilleMall

A new and very promising form of disposal of various rubbish. Anglo-Saxons are extremely practical as always!

Nothing fundamentally new and original - usual second-hand .
Is it just that the price will open up new horizons for "partnership"

[svp67]

Quote: KilleMall

A new and very promising form of disposal of various rubbish.

That the promising one agrees, but that the new one doesn't. The Americans have been doing this for a long time, discarding for a song, or even for nothing, their "old" and receiving political and military benefits. And they started it all with glass beads for the island of Manhattan

[URAL72]

It is of course old, but not very bad. The body is not made of steel - change the filling, use it correctly and they will walk for a very long time. If they are smart enough not to climb under the Kerch bridge ... They also need to start with something, but they lost the technology of fiberglass, composite hulls together with the Feodosia plant "More", which, however, does not build minesweepers. I am more worried that Russia is not so cloudless in this matter, there are a million problems.

[Machito]

Quote: URAL72

It is of course old, but not very bad. The body is not made of steel - change the filling, use it correctly and they will walk for a very long time. If they are smart enough not to climb under the Kerch bridge ... They also need to start with something, but they lost the technology of fiberglass, composite hulls together with the Feodosia plant "More", which, however, does not build minesweepers. I am more worried that Russia is not so cloudless in this matter, there are a million problems.

Who and why will mine the territorial waters of Ukraine and Estonia? RF is definitely not needed. It doesn't make sense. It is easier to immediately land a trooper on the coast. So this is a completely meaningless acquisition for the Ukrainian fleet. Although, if minesweepers can lay mines, then quite the opposite.
In connection with the ever-increasing aggressiveness of NATO, it would also not hurt us to start the production of fascist rusty mines of the WWII era.

[URAL72]

The fact of the matter is that minesweepers can install mines and drop depth charges, and fight underwater saboteurs if necessary. But this is not their task - they just have sonar. We are not dependent on supplies by sea in case of war, but the union had a huge number of minesweepers of different classes. Now this is the problem.

[Alexander Pseudonym]

Ukraine is afraid of a military invasion by Russia. The amphibious assault is especially dangerous. For this very purpose, mining is effective. In principle, Russia has an acceptable fleet. Approximately 6th in the world.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Bearded

Who and why will mine the territorial waters of Ukraine and Estonia?

Same question too. Not a specialist in minesweepers, but, I suppose, without conversion, they are not adapted to either the laying of mines or to the tasks of patrol boats. And this program ... On you God, that we do not fit! And "velikoukram" - no difference, if only floated.

[alch3mist]

Who and why will mine the territorial waters of Ukraine and Estonia?

"I explained to my beloved how the winch pulls the trawl ..."
Skakuas think that these are fishing ships - mullet, taranka. Dual-use technique!

[Serg koma]

Quote: URAL72

old, but not very bad

"Don't feed the horse" is a Russian proverb.

[mojohed2012]

404 - dump state.
Not only is the land sold for a pittance to any "investor", but also garbage, scrap metal and so on are collected from all over the West. Now decommissioned boats, now self-turning decommissioned armored vehicles that have sunk into obscurity to disperse demonstrations, now an icebreaker, now minesweepers ...
Yes, you can already just bring garbage from the EU by trucks - why be ashamed?

[wow]

Ukraine is a BU country. Glory to Ukraine!

[Starover_Z]

Quote: KilleMall

A new and very promising form of disposal of various rubbish. Anglo-Saxons are extremely practical as always!

Ukraine's limited financial capabilities allow the country to acquire only old foreign ships.

So give them an old aircraft carrier! They will be only too happy!

[svp67]

True, it is obvious that these ships in any case will not be able to increase the capabilities of the Ukrainian Navy in comparison with the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

And how many of these basic minesweepers are equipped with our Black Sea Fleet?

[Uncle lee]

"Two new minesweepers of project 12700 (code "Alexandrite") "Vladimir Emelyanov" and "Georgy Kurbatov", which were built at the Sredne-Nevsky shipyard, will become part of the Black Sea Fleet and will be based in the city of Sevastopol. "

[svp67]

Quote from Uncle Lee

will become part of the Black Sea Fleet and will be based in the city of Sevastopol. "

They will come in ... when?

[URAL72]

How when? As soon as the flag is raised, you are welcome ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: svp67

.when?

«The Ministry of Defense will accelerate the transfer of two new Project 12700 Alexandrite ships to the Black Sea Fleet. This year the minesweepers Vladimir Emelyanov and Georgy Kurbatov will start serving in Sevastopol. They will be part of the 68th brigade of water area security ships (OVR) "

[Popandos]

will be withdrawn from the Royal Navy of Great Britain on August 4, after which they will be solemnly handed over to the Ukrainian fleet.

Is this the same UKRAINE that the Ukrainian SSR was? In which ships and ships of the ocean class were built? In which the power plant was made from the drawing board to the last bolt?
Tffuuu some disgrace!
It would be better if these troughs were taken away.

[Peak]

Quote: Popandos

Tffuuu some disgrace!
It would be better if these troughs were taken away.

A show-off to beat? How is Ukraine without it ?

Moreover, they have a celebration of the 30th anniversary of their "independence" on their nose.

Whatever one may say, but without "Peremoga" - no matter how

[den3080]

Quote: Popandos

Yes, what a show-off here, if we talk about the whole industry, if tens of thousands of people were left without work.

Russia followed exactly the same path until 2005-2007.
Tell me, what did the Russian oligarchs of the 90s build, develop?
The answer is NOTHING. They just stuffed their pockets, and strove to sell what they privatized to Westerners - albeit for a little, but still hundreds of times more expensive than it got. That's the whole business.
Hodor was stopped in time. God bless.
Deripaska, quite recently, almost poured the entire aluminum industry of Russia to the Americans for a sniff of tobacco ...
Anyone who owns a yacht the size of a battleship is all the same.
Except for some individual copies ...

[Niko]

Quote: Popandos

will be withdrawn from the Royal Navy of Great Britain on August 4, after which they will be solemnly handed over to the Ukrainian fleet.

Is this the same UKRAINE that the Ukrainian SSR was? In which ships and ships of the ocean class were built? In which the power plant was made from the drawing board to the last bolt?
Tffuuu some disgrace!
It would be better if these troughs were taken away.

What are you laughing at? Over Ukraine? The Black Sea Fleet consists of only 2 (two) ships of this class and equipment. (And are they already there?) They are just being built. And Britain is already writing off ... they have served their due. What is your POWER of Russia here?

[Popandos]

Where are they being built? In Russia, which means at least something is being done in the country to change the situation.
Today two are under construction, tomorrow twelve, after tomorrow twenty two.

[Niko]

Believe it yourself? Or maybe there are examples? While YESTERDAY it was under construction, today we are wearing the USSR, tomorrow with bare butts

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
They will trawl the drum ...
***

[Mouse]

They get rid of the ballast ...
And nafig are not needed, and it's a pity to throw it out ...

[cniza]

Perfect disposal ...

[aszzz888]

The ships will enter the Naval Forces of Ukraine after the audit, repair and modernization work, as well as the corresponding retraining of the personnel of the Ukrainian fleet, which will serve on these ships.

However, it is not yet soon. But, ukro tyulkin хthe lot will have time to prepare during this time)) about two admirals for these vessels.

[APASUS]

Ukraine cannot maintain its own fleet, but here you need to buy all the spare parts for imports for foreign currency. So they helped, so they helped !!!

[uav80]

They already have a couple of Islands and they are already aware of this on the campaign, and here it is not without a gesheft ...
PS: about the Islands is even more interesting, the ameri themselves tried to modernize them in order to extend the service life, but due to problems with the strength of the hulls they had to withdraw from the fleet and "distribute" to the poor ...

[APASUS]

Quote: uav80

withdraw from the fleet and "distribute" to the poor ...

And make some money on the poor. I read about the problems of the Islands and one of them was in the high cost of maintenance, by the way

[uav80]

Relatively fresh "kayaks" built in 2000 ...
Repair, re-equipment and training of crews will take another couple of years and everyone will forget about them quietly ..

[askort154]

VovaZel, recently issued - Ukraine should become a maritime power. But in reality it turns out without "de".

[Cat Alexandrovich]

It is written that Estonia operates Admiral Cowan. Who knows if this was some kind of Estonian admiral in history? BUT?

[uav80]

This is a British admiral who commanded a squadron in the Baltic during the civil war.

[Keer]

English admiral. He fought in the Baltic against Bolshevik Russia.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

The English admiral, and the monument to Turgenev?

[Keer]

The English Wiki says that he watered Axis planes attacking his boat from Thompson Ghana, at the age of 72, in Africa during WWII.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Admiral command boat by boat? Something modern Ukrainian ... Nyabos, he also shouted "Estonia will be free"!

[prior]

On toby nebozhe, for us ourselves we call negozhe.
It is good that there are such Ukraine.
There is so much written off rubbish you can dump!
And the chubby "Indians" are also happy ...

[Retvizan 8]

Well, I can imagine what scale they will try to betray on Ukro-in this event. Well, it's just a peremoga peremogna!
And in fact, morally and technically obsolete equipment (it was not for nothing that they were written off from the British Navy) they still managed to sell to the Ukrainians.

[Avior]

... in fact morally and technically outdated equipment

This is a morally obsolete technique - in fact, an analogue of an analogue of the newest minesweepers Pr12700, which have just begun to be produced and which you can still count on the fingers of one hand.
These are modern first-class ships, more modern minesweepers, perhaps unmanned, but they are only just appearing in the world, the British want to put them into service now.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

You sir, you don't understand the realities of today's Ukraine, wherever you go, they'll steal the same fucking thing, what old stuff is super - duper technology. "shautbenakht-khorunzhiy". Or "vice-Kurennaya" Here they have no equal in fantasy.

[Avior]

The article and discussion deals with the quality of minesweepers sold by the British.
I perfectly understand the peculiarities of the discussion of articles, in which the word Ukraine at least flashed. Under the article, a bunch of comments are immediately crammed, turning the discussion into a farce, and preventing any meaningful discussion of the issue raised in the article by people who understand this issue, as it was before, and which has always distinguished VO from other military resources, and repulsive such people from VO, which significantly lowers the level of the resource. Roman Skomorokhov wrote about this problem recently.
This article and its discussion is just a visual confirmation of why the resource level is dropping.

[Retvizan 8]

So, even here there were clowns who began to admonish that Ukraine was very lucky that it was taken in by the decommissioned ships and that they are actually very modern and advanced ...

[Avior]

... even then there were clowns beginning to admonish

Yes, you are right, it just catches your eye on this thread.

[Avior]

The British are changing the composition of minesweepers to ultra-modern, unmanned, so it is safer and more reliable.
Ukraine was lucky - it received more than modern minesweepers, in no way inferior to the pr12700 Alexandrite.

[Keer]

Ukraine is lucky

They are generally the luckiest.

[Avior]

To comment, you need to understand the issue that you are going to comment on. If not, it's better to read, not write.
The desire to write at least something is not enough ...

[Keer]

Okay, then the luckiest ones in Europe.

[Cb master]

A good way of recycling for "partners". A good way to cut for non-brothers. There will be good decorations for divers. Everyone wins

[Curious Katya]

On you, God, sho we do not fit ...

[Xlor]

Great Britain prepared for the transfer of minesweepers to the Ukrainian Navy, withdrawn from the fleet

Are the minesweepers inflatable too?

[Rusticolus]

What is it inflatable? They already have inflatable ones. These will be plywood.

[Xlor]

And what is the power plant? Oars?

[aszzz888]

Xlor (Xlor)
Today, 11: 10
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And what is the power plant? Oars?

Flippers!

[Luminman]

Quote: Vasyan1974

In Ukraine, without oil and gas, both the average and the minimum salary are higher than in Russia

Where is this, in the Polish beds?

[Avior]

The article and discussion turned into a visual illustration for the recent article by Roman Skomorokhov on the tenth anniversary of VO.
There is an all-and monstrous non-professionalism of the article, the author of which is not aware that in reality minesweepers are more modern, more modern simply does not exist, and a collection of "experts" in maritime affairs in the discussion of the article, some of whom do not even understand how ridiculous the arguments about "Trash" in relation to minesweepers of this type, similar to which only - are only being put into service in Russia (and even then the question is whether modern means of searching for mines like an inspector and a siascaner are sold, since it was possible to purchase the first hulls only because the devices did not fall under sanctions, and this may change at any time).
And now "experts" will rush to minus.
This is how the site loses its reputation: ((((

[rotmistr60]

will be withdrawn from the Royal Navy on August 4, after which they will be solemnly handed over to the Ukrainian Navy

This means that August in Ukraine will be dedicated to the festivities on the occasion of the acquisition of British minesweepers who served in their country. Songs, dances, vodka and possibly kneeling before the English representative. Finally, at least some kind of redemption.

[Dimon-SPG]

Before our eyes, from 2 trawls and 10 inflatable docks, a new sea power is born! Glory to the heroes!)))

[DmSol]

All sorts of commentators come across of course. But we build 12700 ourselves, unlike. And why has a 10-year-old fiberglass body become “just as modern as it is”? To be glad that we will not be able to buy something there because of the sanctions is so-so consolation.

Quote: Avior

The article and discussion turned into a visual illustration for the recent article by Roman Skomorokhov on the tenth anniversary of VO.
There is an all-and monstrous non-professionalism of the article, the author of which is not aware that in reality minesweepers are more modern, more modern simply does not exist, and a collection of "experts" in maritime affairs in the discussion of the article, some of whom do not even understand how ridiculous the arguments about "Trash" in relation to minesweepers of this type, similar to which only - are only being put into service in Russia (and even then the question is whether modern means of searching for mines like an inspector and a siascaner are sold, since it was possible to purchase the first hulls only because the devices did not fall under sanctions, and this may change at any time).
And now "experts" will rush to minus.
This is how the site loses its reputation: ((((

[Avior]

Because those minesweepers that the British sold to Ukraine correspond to the latest Russian minesweepers.
And the plastic hull is necessary, but far from enough, this is not a yacht. We also need search tools to find mines, the minesweeper's weapons are not the number of machine guns on board, as the anonymous author suggested in the article, the minesweeper's weapons are the means of finding mines.
The British Sandown-class minesweepers are powered by German Seafox drones, one of the most common in the world today for this purpose.
on the newest Russian Alexandrites, they are forced to use Seascan underwater mine vehicles supplied by the French, which accidentally did not fall under sanctions, since they are positioned by the manufacturer as civilian.

[agoran]

There is an old aviation joke:
The navigator comes out of the tavern, heavily drunk and says Where am I?
Passers-by answer him - on Lenin Square.
- What for me in particular, in what city am I?
Therefore, it is interesting, but what for are we in particular (Sumerian minesweepers) when the FM fleet of the Russian Federation can destroy all ports 404 with a missile strike without leaving the bases?

[businessv]

Estonia currently operates three such minesweepers: EML Admiral Cowan (M313), EML Sakala (M314) and EML Ugandi (M315).

Why trawl something ?! Sardine?

[cat hippopotamus]

The ice has broken, now everything can be handed over to the former Ukraine and still get money for scrap metal.

[DmSol]

Well, weird. Now it remains to understand how much motor resource there is left for all these nishtyaks. I could still understand your joy from the new ships that England has made especially for you. But admiring used equipment is beyond the bounds. We would like to really raise our own industry, we would start at least with a large-scale assembly (I'm not talking about ships now). And so buy and sell, the difference in your pocket and life in one day.

Quote: Avior

Because those minesweepers that the British sold to Ukraine correspond to the latest Russian minesweepers.
And the plastic hull is necessary, but far from enough, this is not a yacht. We also need search tools to find mines, the minesweeper's weapons are not the number of machine guns on board, as the anonymous author suggested in the article, the minesweeper's weapons are the means of finding mines.
The British Sandown-class minesweepers are powered by German Seafox drones, one of the most common in the world today for this purpose.
on the newest Russian Alexandrites, they are forced to use Seascan underwater mine vehicles supplied by the French, which accidentally did not fall under sanctions, since they are positioned by the manufacturer as civilian.