Heroes and villains, or why people in Donbass forget who they are fighting with and for what

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Faceless losses


On Thursday, July 29, three servicemen of the DPR NM were killed and another one received shrapnel wounds as a result of the shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of the village of Novaya Maryevka in the south of the republic. In total, 24 mines of 120 mm caliber fell on the village that night. Three citizens of Russia were killed (all the personnel of the People's Militia have already received citizenship), but we will not hear about "deep concern" or that "we are not abandoning our own people." Most likely, we will not even see the magnificent funeral, we will not recognize the names of the heroes. It just so happened that since 2016, the LPNR has avoided giving names or talking about the exploits of those who laid down their lives on the altar of the self-proclaimed republics in every possible way.

Meanwhile, while Ukrainian shells and mines were raining down on the front-line settlements (now this is happening almost non-stop), the residents of Donetsk and Lugansk discussed topics that were important to them. Why is communication with Ukraine still limited, in connection with which it is impossible to go to rest in Berdyansk or Odessa, visit relatives in Konotop, or just go shopping (goods). Why are there queues on the border with Russia due to the influx of people wishing to visit the resorts? Why have utility rates increased again, which are an order of magnitude lower than in Ukraine, and several times lower than the average for the Russian Federation? People are more and more worried about their wallet, about comfort, about the annoying curfew and less and less often remember the war, although it is again on the outskirts of Donetsk.



Against the background of daily shelling of front-line settlements, the death of the defenders of the republics and civilians, a significant part of the population of the republics managed to forget that there is a war and that the enemy is at the gates, and many have completely ceased to perceive Ukraine as an enemy. People are much more concerned about the personal and chronic setbacks of the authorities, which, alas, have not learned to work properly to this day.

There are no more heroes


In principle, the return of the population to consumer values ​​and the perception of Ukraine not as a criminal country, a terrorist country killing civilians and innocent children, but rather as an ordinary neighbor is not the fault of the people themselves, not of Moscow, and not even the result of the deformation of the public consciousness after 23 years in the "Square". First of all, this is the responsibility of the republican authorities, who shamelessly squandered the ideological potential acquired at a high price in 2014.

Confused, primarily due to the systematic dehumanization of the People's Militia fighters, who turned from heroes into faceless "no-names". Whether it was done in the name of the Minsk agreements or just out of stupidity, for many years neither the republics nor Russia have seen the living defenders of Novorossiya, they have not heard anything about their exploits, they have not known about their many problems and hardships. All that was left were emasculated slogans and cautious, within the framework of "Minsk", patriotism, and interviews with specially trained people filmed in the deep rear in pre-prepared positions. Is it any wonder that today in Donetsk you often come across the news about young tick-tokers dancing on graves or swimming naked in public than about those who gave their lives for their friends?

Servicemen, their problems, as if they do not exist. They have become obsolete, taken out of the brackets, so that no one is even surprised that the salary of a soldier on the front line is less than the salary of a teacher or a taxi driver. So what to expect if the situation on the front line is carefully hushed up, although everyone knows very well that the People's Militia rarely gets the right to return fire, and dozens of internal problems that are never mentioned in the republican media? In the photo, by the way, just such an instance.

According to the old patterns


Frank talk is generally a big problem in the LPNR. No efforts of the Ukrainian special services could so successfully discredit the republican media and local authorities as they did themselves. There is no need to say much - it is enough to mention the fact that the salary arrears of Vneshtorgservice CJSC to workers at the official level were denied for more than a year and a half ...

Is it any wonder that many consider it normal to freely visit Ukraine or to carry goods from there, if the counters in the markets and in supermarkets are full of Ukrainian products, it is not known how they get there, and Ukraine is full of Donetsk and Luhansk alcohol and tobacco products. And this is most likely just the tip of the iceberg - read the works of Prilepin or Surkov, who writes under the pseudonym of Nathan Dubovitsky.

What are the internal squabbles, when in Donetsk and Lugansk, to the delight of the enemy, officials and talking heads dump on each other tubs of dirt? In recent years, dozens of telegram channels and groups on social networks have appeared in Donetsk (in Lugansk to a lesser extent), in which ministries compete with each other to expose competing factions, and so quickly that Ukrainians can only envy. Why, against the background of what is happening, should people believe that these politicians and officials are worthy of trust and are somehow different from the Ukrainian ones?

New normalcy?


Is it any wonder that the heroism of the defenders today is not impressive to anyone, and the crimes of Kiev against humanity do not cause any special emotions? After all, it is no longer the defenders of Donbass who are fighting a fierce enemy, with fascists and evil spirits, but some faceless men with incomprehensible motivation and an annoying habit of picking up after a paycheck are shooting with someone on the other side of the demarcation line. It is just right to recall the indignation of one former member of the Public Chamber of the DPR, who denounced the People's Militia for firing at the enemy, since the "otvetka" could damage his household and interfere with barbecuing ...

Do people have to believe in republics and steadfastly endure any hardships (fortunately, there are many of them today only near the front line) and restrictions?

The fact of the matter is that they must - even must. But just to explain this to the masses, to impute to them a sense of responsibility and to remind them who the real heroes are and from what villains they defend the republics, something more is needed than faded sermons and depreciated from the frequent use of dogma. But there are only more and more deaths of faceless nouns with Russian passports, countless annoying troubles, chewed up narratives in the media and cursed timelessness.
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  1. +7
    2 August 2021 18: 09
    The militias are tired of sitting for 8 years without the ability to respond normally. The guys have betrayed you.
    1. +28
      2 August 2021 19: 18
      "Three citizens of Russia were killed (all personnel of the People's Militia have already received citizenship)"

      Here the author has gone too far. Judging by my platoon, half of them do not have a Russian passport. And some do not even think of receiving it. In Russia, it is normal with a DPR passport, but in the Rostov region, you do not need to indicate either the purpose of arrival or the date.

      About "we were betrayed." Who? Who promised us something? Nobody. But Russia's support is crucial, vital. After Karabakh, Kiev intended to strike, but the maneuvers in Russia with the transfer of troops noticeably cooled their ardor. The power option is not possible - they will rake it off.
      1. 0
        2 August 2021 19: 35
        People got up because they thought it would be like in the Crimea. Would Strelkov have gone to Slavyansk if he had not counted on support?
        1. -15
          2 August 2021 20: 09
          On this sad occasion, there is an anecdote about two cowboys who ate feces for free. The State Department won.
      2. +2
        2 August 2021 21: 18
        Quote: URAL72
        The power option is not possible - they will rake it off.

        I understand Egor, but your opinion is closer to me. Hard wait the eighth year something that should have happened a long time ago. And what can we but wait? Perhaps I am mistaken, but I believe that the end is close. And Yegor is losing his nerves, but you cannot condemn him.
        Good luck, Ural! To you and your colleagues. hi
        1. -2
          6 August 2021 18: 16
          There will be no denouement. People are tired of being in limbo. And they leave for Russia forever. Even without the direction of the Banderlog clown. Indeed — just survive the moment. And it will come, though not in favor of the LDNR.
      3. +5
        3 August 2021 00: 12
        I am impressed by many of your comments, but I fell for a nickname and did not expect that you are in those parts. Anyone who died on our part is a frankly sore subject for me personally. I was trying to do it myself in 14-15, but life and the birth of my second daughter changed my plans. I wish you with all my heart that not in the platoon .... yes, there were no losses anywhere. God help you and I would like to read that the APU who opened fire lost someone. With all my soul and mind, I wish you all the best ... And thanks for some of the comments that I am impressed with.
        1. +4
          3 August 2021 09: 32
          Thanks. My nickname comes from the T-72 tank - this is the same legend as the T-34. Simple, cheap, massive, maintainable, but more reliable.
      4. +2
        3 August 2021 15: 23
        Quote: URAL72
        About "we were betrayed." Who? Who promised us something?

        the perception of Ukraine not as a criminal country, a terrorist country killing civilians and innocent children, but rather as an ordinary neighbor - this is not the fault of the people themselves, not of Moscow, and not even the result of the deformation of public consciousness after 23 years as part of the "square" ... First of all, this is the responsibility of the republican authorities.


        And who appoints these republican authorities? Washington? Or maybe Kiev?
        It is obvious to everyone that the authorities in the LDNR are appointed from the Kremlin and are pursuing the policy they are told from there. So this is the policy of the Kremlin today ...
    2. +4
      2 August 2021 19: 58
      back in 2014, when it was necessary to do everything - and it would be quick and decisive
      1. -2
        3 August 2021 13: 04
        Interesting: "to do everything" - what is this? Start a big war all over Ukraine?
    3. +8
      2 August 2021 21: 30
      Unfortunately, the whole world is degrading and sinking morally and psychologically. Some are faster, some are slower.
      These are ethno-national conflicts, a low standard of living, the purposeful destruction of spiritual foundations (in particular, in the LDNR, this is to keep a person in a state of uncertainty about his current situation and what he may expect in the future ...), and a number of other negative factors.
      And not a single "high boss" of another country can radically change this for the better (for the worse - easier).
      This should be done by the whole society, united by some idea. Hard, hard, consistent ...
    4. +3
      4 August 2021 01: 47
      Quote: Author
      Three citizens of Russia were killed (all personnel of the People's Militia have already received
      citizenship), but we will not hear about “deep
      concern ", or that" their
      we throw. "

      hydrant of the Constitution instantly reacts to any sneeze from behind a hillock - sent
      condolences to Chancellor grandma
      Merkel in connection with the tragic consequences of the floods from the Fritzes, but Putin's citizens of Russia do not have enough condolences, this is a pattern.
    5. 0
      17 October 2021 06: 55
      Not them were betrayed, but all the Russians.
  2. +9
    2 August 2021 18: 10
    In Ukraine, the same emasculation) and the cries of "wolves" and "war" no longer impress or scare anyone)
    Everyone understands that this is a laundering and other people's games, the main population is engaged in survival under the conditions of victorious fascism) after all, more than half of the population turned out to be "people with a second-class nationality") everyone who is not Ukrainians or Crimean Tatars)) therefore, the wars between Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars of the rest of the population the country has little concern for the time being)
    Country 404 on the eve of logical liquidation, as a failed project)
    1. +8
      2 August 2021 18: 58
      I agree 100%, I can see it with my own eyes, young guys are dying from both sides. And the creatures from the country's leadership find excuses every year cheaper and cheaper, as if we are protecting Europe.
  3. +1
    2 August 2021 18: 25
    I would not be surprised that this "deputy" hawala shashliks together with thugs from the west.
    1. +2
      3 August 2021 05: 39
      he was not a deputy, but a member of the public chamber. And then he was closed for these and other speeches. True, only for six months
      1. +1
        3 August 2021 18: 33
        Egor. I think at the moment he has everything in chocolate bully
  4. +15
    2 August 2021 18: 37
    Thomas Carlyle:
    "Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate scoundrels use its fruits."
    And:
    "The main organ of the human body, the unshakable foundation on which the soul rests, is the wallet."
    What has changed in 200 years ???
  5. +8
    2 August 2021 19: 12
    I hate Poklonskaya, but it came to her, and now to Makhov - PEOPLE are tired of the war!
    They don't care about Ukraine or Russia anymore. They want peace, send their children to school, go to barbecue, to picnic! Not to mention a normal job and salary.
    1. +12
      2 August 2021 21: 39
      No need to tell what we want. We even have a barbecue in the front and have a picnic. And the children go to school here - EVERYTHING. Slowly, work appears, in some places the salaries are already being matched to the Rostov ones. Nobody pays attention to the war here, it seems that this is how it should be. After the issuance of Russian passports began, they generally began to consider themselves a Russian outback. In Russia, too, after all, not everywhere there is work, so they ride on the watch.
      1. -6
        2 August 2021 21: 48
        Have you ever wondered that in normal life the word front end is it not advanced?
        And they arrange picnics with girls, children ...
        Will dare to take a daughter or son to your picnic?
        I am talking about the minimum that you either forgot about, or played so hard that you want to forget.
        1. +5
          2 August 2021 21: 59
          So I say - everyone has their own life, so there is no need to tell how bad we are and what we want. You formed your opinion "from newspapers". It costs nothing. The border is open, prices are low - in Donetsk you can rent an apartment for a month for 3-5 thousand re. Come and live. I can show you both our positions and the night cities - one soldier is enough for two of the commendation to get away with it. The main thing is to be sober.
          1. -5
            2 August 2021 22: 25
            It’s you, not seven years old, but who thinks that such a war should not be a priori, suggest that I come and see how good it is under fire? How wonderful is the curfew at night ?!
            You can't hear me - I (and the entire civilized world) believe that war is horror !!! And you tell me about how roses smell in Donetsk after the shelling ...
            1. -1
              3 August 2021 00: 29
              And if you ask me, then I can tell you not only about roses, but also about tulips. How beautiful in spring blooming red tulips look in the steppe between the black holes of funnels from breaks. You have to see this terrible beauty with your own eyes in order to understand that life will win.
        2. +3
          2 August 2021 23: 11
          Forgive me for interrupting, but you are giving out a peacetime opinion. There is no peace in Donbass and it is not expected. So what does it have to do with theses - what is considered a front end, and what is a picnic? A radically different situation, you probably realize.
    2. 0
      2 August 2021 23: 09
      Excuse me, why don't you love her, because of her virtual husband Nikolashka the Bloody? So she denied him, they say she was wrong and in general the girl's heart is suggestible and vulnerable)
    3. +7
      3 August 2021 05: 40
      people are not tired of war, but of senseless fuss. It's more tiring than war
      1. -1
        3 August 2021 05: 46
        Wow! You all the same go out to communicate. And there were individuals who doubted your existence and attributed your articles to others ...
        Fuss? And the fuss too. But the cornerstone, it seems to me, is still the word "war". In many regions we have a local fuss - the same local "potentates", unemployment, no payments ... But at least it does not arrive. It's not scary that a child finds a mine ...
        Although this is purely my personal opinion.
      2. +3
        3 August 2021 13: 28
        The more Russians die in Donbass without a response from Russia, the more it becomes clear that many in the Russian government are closer to their Ukrainian colleagues than Donetsk passionaries, because they can infect Russians with this.
      3. 0
        7 August 2021 23: 46
        Quote: Egor Makhov
        people are not tired of war, but of senseless fuss. It's more tiring than war
        It remains only to find out who started this fuss and has been supporting it for 7 years, hiding behind "Minsk" which, as you know, has "no alternative" (whose goal is to push Donbass back into Ukraine, and where local representatives are perceived as an empty space). And whoever is under this case, instead of increasing the fighting efficiency of the People's Militia, has been breaking it over the knee for 7 years. He breaks cynically, harshly, in a boorish way, taking advantage of his official position and the presence of large stars on his shoulder straps. Who has achieved that Russia is not believed in any of its undertakings. Who manages to implement any Russian initiative with maximum image losses? Maybe the local (themselves) are to blame again?
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  6. +3
    2 August 2021 19: 30
    Capitalists on both sides. Despite the deflection under Akhmetov in 2014, when Mariupol was left to him to ensure uninterrupted export of metallurgical products, he did nothing for the DPR. And here the same bourgeois rule, only on the other side of the border Bandera is considered a hero, and here Vlasov is a traitor. For now.
  7. +7
    2 August 2021 19: 33
    Hoba ...
    A criminal case has been opened in Russia against the Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. He is suspected of creating a criminal community. The case was opened in the Main Investigation Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Tatarstan, the punishment under the article "Organization of a criminal community" provides for up to 20 years in prison. According to the investigation, in December 2006, Kolomoisky, together with other major Ukrainian entrepreneurs - Gennady Bogolyubov, Alexander Yaroslavsky and Pavel Ovcharenko - created a criminal community and stole oil from Tatneft worth $ 2007 billion. TATNEFT participated in the creation of the Ukrtatnafta company, in XNUMX control over the Ukrainian structure passed to Kolomoisky. According to the security officials, Ukrtatnafta received a large batch of oil, then the oligarch and his accomplices removed the managers and shareholders from Tatarstan from their jobs, and kept the oil for themselves.
    1. 0
      2 August 2021 23: 06
      It will be really joyful to see cases about the oligarchs of our flood, with the deepest inspection of their history. But Kolomoisky is not at all cold from this
      1. -3
        3 August 2021 05: 32
        Quote: Victor Tsenin
        It will be really joyful to see cases about the oligarchs of our flood, with the deepest inspection of their history. But Kolomoisky is not at all cold from this

        Hodor was planted, and Columbo will be planted too ... This is one and the accompanying effects of the meeting in Geneva.
  8. +10
    2 August 2021 19: 34
    Again, the author claims to the population that they are naturally more concerned about economic and social problems than the usual war.
  9. +5
    2 August 2021 19: 44
    How many years!!! The people are already emotionally burned out !!! Who and why went to the Minsk Agreements, why did they stop the LDNR troops when the Ukrainians were defeated, why the military victory was not fully realized in political dividends, what impotent are they? And in general, what a strange relationship with dill at the political and economic level! That again, some kind of political and economic gesheft !? And everywhere from every iron rushes the Russian world, the Russian world !! But really, what has been done, but yes, the vaccine was sent!
  10. +11
    2 August 2021 20: 19
    People don't want war for the sake of war.
    They want to see the result, not a senseless endless war.
    And the result in the republics is a noticeable decline in the standard of living, and for seven years there have been no tendencies for improvement.
    So it is not surprising that such a reaction of the population, as described in the article.
    1. -8
      2 August 2021 21: 59
      Quote: Avior
      And the result in the republics is a noticeable decline in the standard of living, and for seven years there have been no tendencies for improvement.

      Well, yes, but you have a rise and prosperity in Ukraine, and you are not tired of the war. For the Nazis, the war is a joy. How your tongue turns
      1. +6
        3 August 2021 00: 47
        Ukraine does not bear the burden of war because their territory and population does not suffer from shelling, and the military is paid well.
  11. +13
    2 August 2021 20: 58
    I wonder how now you can freely visit Ukraine if the crossings have been closed for a year already? The answer is only across the border with the Russian Federation, and this is expensive for the majority and there is nothing to it.
    Ukrainian goods, if they get there, are "interrupted transit" and again across the border with the Russian Federation.
    I would say a little of them.
    That "the war is at the gates, and who is not steaming" is swinging. So 8 years is not peace, not war. If nothing explodes or burns around you, then it stops hovering around you. Since the defensive reaction of the psyche.

    If there is a residential building behind the NM, and look at the map as the front line passes, then all flights will go to the city. So joyfully opening fire on the enemy every time, you can be left without population. Because sitting under fire for eight years, without prospects for a close decision, there is not enough motivation.

    And according to Novorosiya, the current territory belonged to the Don Army, and it formally became part of Russia, as it were, not earlier than Siberia.
  12. +5
    2 August 2021 21: 00
    > On Thursday, July 29, three servicemen of the NM DPR were killed and another one received shrapnel wounds as a result of the shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of the village of Novaya Maryevka in the south of the republic.

    Are you talking about a dastardly shelling of a car? From Joker DNR:
    Leafing through a new batch of documents, I came across an interesting story. Ukrainian soldiers of the 93rd brigade reported on a successful mortar strike on July 28 at about 16-30 in the area of ​​N of the item. New Maryevka. A white VAZ-2107 car was fired upon. The situation, at first glance, is common. But when clarifying the details, it turned out that this car was moving to evacuate the wounded and the Donetsk soldiers requested a silence mode, which was confirmed by the Ukrainians. As a result of this shelling, three were killed and one was wounded.

    In order not to look like completely finished pigs, Ukrainian clowns began to write that this car ran into its own mine and the Ukrainians are not here, as proof they published photo # 1, in which it is not clear at all that it exploded. But thanks to today's materials for correcting successful fire from a Ukrainian drone, the fact of the shelling is obvious. If a creature behaves like a pig, grunts and looks like a pig, then it is a pig. What else can we expect from pigs?
    1. +4
      2 August 2021 22: 27
      it turned out that this car was moving to evacuate the wounded

      Let's say that there is no money for sanitary armored cars. Although the DPR is not a poor republic. One coal how much money brings ... But why an ambulance without red crosses? Red crosses could be drawn.


      https://vk.com/jokerdnr?w=wall-201210234_295
      1. 0
        2 August 2021 23: 02
        Of course you could. But. Taking into account what was stated in the article, it is not surprising that this has not been done. So everything would be fine, but it was not, alas.
        1. +1
          3 August 2021 08: 16
          Not the fact that everything would be fine. But it would be more difficult to explain the shooting at a car with red crosses to the ukrovoyaks.
          1. +1
            3 August 2021 09: 00
            It would be the same if they fired at a mine or fired at themselves. It's been enough years to learn from the habits.
      2. -1
        3 August 2021 00: 25
        Well, there was a request and that they did not specify where what who and how.
      3. +1
        3 August 2021 16: 13
        A silence regime was requested from the DPR to evacuate the wounded, but the Ukrainian part of the JCCC withdrew and did not inform its military about the request.
        1. +2
          3 August 2021 16: 40
          Red crosses are needed for that, so that ordinary enemy soldiers can see that the wounded are being taken out.
          1. -1
            3 August 2021 16: 42
            This is not the first time. In previous cases, there were Red Crosses, but this did not stop the Great Ukrs, like the Nazis.
      4. 0
        7 August 2021 23: 15
        Quote: t-12
        But why is an ambulance without red crosses?

        That is, according to your logic, if a CIVIL vehicle without red crosses, then the APU had every right to fire at it?
  13. +2
    2 August 2021 21: 12
    The monetary allowance of a soldier is 18-20 thousand, and this is more than that of the miners, what kind of teachers are there.
    1. +4
      2 August 2021 21: 49
      The soldier has 16,5. And with fighting 25-26.
    2. 0
      7 August 2021 23: 54
      Quote: Vlad2012
      The monetary allowance of a soldier is 18-20 thousand, and this is more than that of the miners, what kind of teachers are there.

      The soldier has 16450r. Miners - 25-30 tr. Driver, movers - from 25 tr.
  14. +11
    2 August 2021 21: 57
    Again, the people are not the same ... they do not want to fight for some ideals. He wants to eat, salary, stability and other attributes he wants. But what is it then ... they do not fight with Ukraine, but go there or trade ...
    Something painfully familiar .. oh yes, Ukraine and the Russian Federation. Only the scale is larger. They fight, trade, visit each other. But the in-house propagandists and nationalists are not happy. The military are dying in the trenches = and the civilians want to live ...
    The statuses are muddy - the relationship is muddy, the attitude towards such relationships to civilians is just as muddy.
    For the sake of gray zones, zones of instability, no one has intended and is not going to strain for almost 10 years.
    Have created a gray zone, so let Surkov and JSC Vneshtorgobokralvsekh themselves fight. And then they got the wrong people. Their attitude towards Ukraine has changed. They don't want to fight, they want some kind of salary ... yes, not beggarly ...
    And then the enemy is at the gates ... the fortress is besieged, shish you, and not the salary ... you can't be right because the war ..
    when from the iron it carries patriotism, the enemy at the gate and the whole world is against us - it was robbed and will continue to steal ... And then NATO soldiers ... This is common for Ukraine (its own scarecrow), Russia (more scarecrows) and the gray zone-- where the fascists were invented, who for 8 years did not make the population feel like enemies, but the situation is worse than the Russian Federation and Ukraine at times.
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  16. +6
    2 August 2021 22: 51
    It has long been clear that this will be so.
    The PR went down, the volunteers returned to their place of service or work. The idealistic heroes either ran out or went mad ...

    Everything. Tasks completed, the created buffer zone is frozen in a usable state

    Classics: No money, but you hold on.
  17. -1
    2 August 2021 22: 54
    The majority of the male population in the republics is registered with the local military registration and enlistment offices and is considered to be reserve servicemen. If not very cunning, then military training has already taken place once or twice, which automatically means taking the oath. And now think, if you were in their place, you would like to enter Ukraine, where it is, from the point of view of the law, service in the ranks of illegal armed groups.
    On the other hand, trade with the republics provides for some kind of money transfers. And if you are not Petro Poroshenko, then you may well be drawn to the financing of terrorism.
    Quite real cases when they caught those who specialized in cashing cards. Or remember Medvedchuk.
    This is about the massiveness of trips. Logic, the hell to go there?
  18. +5
    3 August 2021 02: 11
    Several years ago a guy from Lugansk rented an apartment for me. As I understand it, I didn’t want to get into the militia (what, they call there?). His mother came to him and said that the 90s returned to them in Lugansk, not only in the form of impoverishment of the population, but also in the form of such delights as extortion, racketeering. And this is what the local security forces are doing. She said that representatives of some power structure came to their enterprise and took office equipment from the office. I think that this is also not the best way to affect the attitude of the local population to the situation. I don’t know how it is now.
    1. 0
      5 August 2021 07: 04
      https://www.bfm.ru/news/394116
      all this is a gang of watering cans in the Russian Federation now. No cases have been initiated against them. of course, the people they robbed do not understand why this is happening.
  19. +1
    3 August 2021 10: 22
    Officials got scared in 2014 of the rise of Russian Patriotism in 2014 after Crimea. About oligarchy i.e. citizens of the world with multiple passports and there is nothing to say. Therefore, instead of the triumphant liberation of Novorossia, we now have, that is, the Minsk agreements, which once again saved the Nazi regime, the American occupation of Ukraine.
  20. 0
    3 August 2021 17: 31
    There is a war going on to destroy ALL Russians, no matter from which side. Bandera "are at war" at home with Russians, farmers, the opposition. On the front line RUSSIANS are at war with RUSSIANS! Dulles' Plan in Action! Until SOMEONE understands this, there will be no case, but WHO understands that he is worried about his loot, not someone's life. SOMEONE lacks the willpower to cut this knot. It all looks like a betrayal! Otherwise, we began to worry a lot about the results of the Olympics! HA @ BUT FULL!
    1. +1
      17 October 2021 07: 53

      Not everyone understands this.
  21. 0
    4 August 2021 11: 42
    The author, apparently, wanted to surprise ... One could be surprised if it were not for three BUTs: first, where mines and shells do not reach, ordinary people live, ordinary people, consumers, call it whatever you like. Having lived very satisfyingly and comfortably before the war, Donbass has never been a poor subsidized region. Second, no matter how Russians we consider them and call them, they are typical Ukrainians with all the "virtues" inherent in this ethnos. Therefore, the bulk in 2014 rushed not into the trenches to the front line, but into the Russian regions, where the brightest representatives foaming at the mouth argued that everyone owes them everything. Third, it was not the communists of the 1917 model, not the Dzerzhinsky comrades, who came to rule in the republics. All Dzerzhinskys were physically destroyed with the transfer of arrows to the Nazi DRG. Who finally came, everyone can see and understand.

    PS All of the above does not in any way apply to those in the trenches. There are real ones. Russians. Mentally and spiritually Russians, nationalities do not matter in the war. But what will happen to Donbass when, thanks to the current leadership of the republics, they will not remain there at all ...
  22. 0
    7 August 2021 23: 03
    Again Yegorka was drawn to the wrong steppe. But, in principle, predictable.
    At first, with the help of Russian curators, in the name of "Minsk" (and to make it more convenient to call the Ukrainian authorities "partners"), they broke the People's Militia 7 years through the knee. And when they did break, such Yegorka Makhov comes out and says that, it turns out, "they are to blame for everything." negative
  23. 0
    17 October 2021 07: 43

    If someone else did not understand the essence of things happening ...
  24. +1
    17 October 2021 07: 50

    If anyone is interested in the exact date of the betrayal of New Russia and the whole Russian ...