Syrian militants went to terror against civilians

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Syrian militants went to terror against civilians


Earlier, the Syrian "freedom fighters" said that they are fighting for the people, and they are fighting the army. And although this is absurd, since the army is part of the people, but at least they tried to keep their face before the Western public. Previously, they blew up predominantly military installations, police buildings, and government offices. Of course, civilians also died - more than 10 civilians died in the 60 bombing attack in May alone, although the attack was formally directed against the military intelligence building, and people who were driving in their cars and were killed by an explosion of an explosive machine substances in TNT equivalent was more than a ton), apparently, were listed among the militants as “collateral victims”.

Since then, the Syrian authorities have increased the protection of military and other important objects. Of course, it will not be possible to protect oneself from all attacks against them, but it has become much more difficult to commit them.

And the militants have already turned to the tactics of terror directly against civilians.

3 September in a suburb of Damascus Jaramani, right among the houses there was a powerful explosion.

There were no military facilities, no police, no government agencies. There were residential buildings. So what could be the target of the terrorists? In addition to the killing of civilians living quietly in this quarter? That was exactly their goal - so the overlooked pseudo-revolutionaries are taking revenge on civilians for not joining their rebellion.

A few houses suffered badly. Balconies fell to the ground. The window frames fell straight to the people on the bed. In some apartments there are icons: many Christians live in the area.

We go along the stairs of the dilapidated house. A person speaking Russian lives in one of the apartments. Often been in Moscow. Among the chaos caused by the explosion - several books in Russian.

Saved by a miracle. Sat on the couch, worked with a laptop. Barely managed to bounce. Just a little bit - and the window frame, torn out "with meat", would fall directly on him.

Says:
- Grandmother and granddaughter played here. Another boy right next to this bus was. Suddenly, a neighbor says that the car seems to be dangerous - a stranger, an unfamiliar, somehow strangely parked. And she really rushed. Both the girl, and the boy, and the neighbor died. Who needs such a revolution? And I want to ask these "revolutionaries" - and if there were your mothers, your children?


He shows the injured house. In the basement there was a music club and cafe. Now on the stage - broken glass, tables and chairs crumpled.
“And there,” says the same local resident, pointing to a completely destroyed apartment in the next house, “there lived a large family of refugees from Iraq. Literally on the eve moved out. Fate saved them.


Indeed, the apartment was blown so that if someone was in it, it would hardly have been possible to survive ...

Residents sit on dilapidated balconies. Nobody cries, everyone keeps steadfastly. I note that no one mourns the property - since Syria is a socially-oriented state, people know that they will not be left without help.

Investigators examine the miserable pieces of iron left over from the bus itself that exploded. There are a lot of crumpled cars around ... To build a house, equip an apartment, save up for a car - years of work are needed. To destroy the created by others - enough for one second.
In a nearby shop, having learned that Russian journalists arrived, they are giving you juice for free. The shop has also suffered - part of the food is now lying on the ground. They kept canaries - one cage with two birds survived. Two other birds were killed in the explosion, and fragments of the cage lying on the pavement. Another innocent victim of the attack.

People want to live, want to go to work, want to sit on the balcony and drink tea in the evening, want to raise children and play with them, want to keep canaries - and they have enough of the freedom they have, and don’t have to shed some other "freedom" "- that's all the terrible" crime "of those who have become the target of the hunt for" democratic rebels ".

The latter went even further and once again demonstrated that they are going to fight directly against civilians. Now they declare that they will attack airports and shoot down civilian aircraft.

Previously, they attempted to seize several military airfields in Idlib, in Aleppo. They even managed to trumpet all over the world about their imaginary "successes" (which were picked up by the joyful world media). However, the army managed to repel these attacks. Pissed off fighters broke the chain and made such a formidable statement.

As stated by the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Gennady Gatilov, such statements of the rebels were the result of the fact that some countries irresponsibly supplied them with MANPADS.

An official statement from the Russian Foreign Ministry says that the militants did not go far from al-Qaida with such statements.

Perhaps this is the empty bluff of "fighters for democracy." They want to sow fear, so that people are afraid to fly to Syria. After all, those who come to this country see the truth, but the truth is not profitable for them.

It would seem that it is completely unprofitable for them to shoot down civilian planes: after all, then even a Western man in the street who is ready to listen to any lies of the media can refuse to support them, and it will be much more difficult for Western leaders to defend their charges.

But who knows what a monkey with a grenade is capable of? More precisely, with MANPADS ...

In the city of Al-Ksayr in Homs, militants blew up the hospital along with the people who were there. At first it was captured with the help of dug underground tunnels and looted.

I personally saw the destroyed hospital in the city of Homs, in the Al-Karabis quarter. Right before the ill-fated "Arab Spring", the authorities built a new modern 13-storeyed hospital. But it was necessary to wander around "democracy" in this quarter of Homs ...

Now all the 13 floors of the new hospital have been turned into a pile of broken concrete. When the army liberated the block from militants, they blew up everything that was possible, so that the state would be more difficult to restore the infrastructure. In order to blow up such a large building, explosives and a multitude of oxygen cylinders were dragged into the basement. And a bunch of pathetic ruins suggests that “freedom fighters” believe that free people do not need hospitals.

And in the UN stands, smoothed Western politicians again say that "the regime must leave and hand over power."

To whom? Wrestlers with residential houses, civilian aircraft and hospitals? Those who announced an open hunt for civilians in Syria? Have a conscience, gentlemen! And open your eyes to the actions of your pets!
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  1. vadimus
    +2
    6 September 2012
    So this is the same al-Qaeda. And the west says it openly. This is no longer a lie, but a blatant provocation, but they don’t get used to it ...
    1. +9
      6 September 2012
      I cordially greet Elena and thank you for the latest material from the scene. Thanks and - plus.
      As for the words that the militants have gone over to terror against civilians, this is not news, but facts confirmed by an eyewitness (Elena), which has simply become impossible to hush up "even the most objective in the world" Western media! I was surprised that in foreign media and "Euronews", suddenly, there appeared words (along with sore words about the atrocities of Assad's troops) about the destruction of civilians "by rebels from the FSA!
      In fact, it begins - easy "turn it back", colleagues!
      That's just how to keep the "face of the face", turning backwards, for the West it is now a dilemma ... request
      1. +2
        6 September 2012
        Quote: esaul
        Here's just how to keep the "face", turning backwards, for the West this is now a dilemma ..

        But is she going to turn around, that’s the question!
        1. +3
          6 September 2012
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          But is she going to turn around, that’s the question!


          Along the way, the Syrians are not going to ask the US and the EU about their desires. They do what they should

          The special operation to liberate the eastern suburbs of Damascus from armed militants, which the Syrian army has been conducting for the second week, will be completed in the coming days, the Al-Mayadin satellite TV channel reports, citing a source in the Syrian security forces.

          On Tuesday, the main area of ​​armed clashes between government forces and the so-called Free Syrian Army (SSA) was the small village of Deir Asafir, located at a fairly large distance from the Syrian capital. The army units drawn to it are combing the surrounding gardens.

          At the same time, according to the Syrian agency Surya al-An, the army is carrying out sweeps in the countryside near the village of Mlikha, also located east of Damascus, in Eastern Ghouta. Part of the mercenary terrorists, the message says, was destroyed and taken prisoner.

          During the operation in Mlikha, two cars stuffed with dynamite were also discovered.

          Meanwhile, according to the Al-Mayadin TV channel, the situation in the areas of Eastern Ghouta, located closer to Damascus, where the special operation has already ended, is gradually returning to normal. Residents of Erbin, Zamalka and Zablatani districts, who left them earlier, fleeing shelling and street fighting, are beginning to return to their homes.

          Armed clashes continue between government forces and militants of the SSA and in the second largest city of Syria - Aleppo. There street fights are going on in particular in the historical part - in the Old Town.

          It is reported that Syrian forces have occupied strategically important highlands in the area of ​​Seif al-Dawl. This, according to a Syrian army officer, was a turning point in the Battle of Aleppo. ”Militant control over these heights held back the operation to liberate the city.
          1. +1
            6 September 2012
            I have already posted in other news. I apologize to the administration and I will keep this one.

            Ammunition depot explosion in Turkey kills 25 people

            As a result of an explosion the day before at an ammunition depot in the Turkish city of Afyonkarahisar, 25 soldiers were killed and four were injured. This was announced on Thursday by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic. The cause of the explosion has not yet been established. The military command began investigative measures.

            The explosion rang out on Wednesday around 21 p.m. local time in that place of the ammunition depot where the hand grenades were stored. The detonation was so strong that many Afyonkarahisar residents left their homes, thinking that an earthquake had begun, ITAR-TASS said.


            PS This is the second explosion in warehouses in the past two months.
            1. +1
              6 September 2012
              Quote: Sith Lord
              PS This is the second explosion in warehouses in the past two months.

              Sabotage.............?! belay
              1. 0
                7 September 2012
                looking for a reason to make a decision
          2. curious
            0
            8 September 2012
            Courts on videos, after past fights - there is simply nowhere to return to civilians, everything is completely or partially destroyed
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          6 September 2012
          Of course not, it was my will, I would place our missiles with YABG in Cuba, and I would announce that it is time to stop funding any "Taliban" would look at their reaction
      2. curious
        0
        8 September 2012
        If the partisans begin to act against their own people, their support will end very quickly.
    2. +4
      6 September 2012
      This is not mythical Al Qaeda; this is the bestial face of an impudent Saxon concept, but the world order.
      The ranting urdalaks from the State Department and Forinofis are nothing more than a screen for geeks and murderers of all stripes who, with the money of the Persian Gulf monarchies, are implementing a new world order.
      The Syrian people can only wish courage and strength to fight demons of all stripes, and we need to know and remember every extra day that Syria keeps this day in our piggy bank to prepare for the defense against nonhumans who broadcast about shit led only by him and wailing joyfully Wow! from scenes of open mockery of a man.
  2. 0
    6 September 2012
    People who are from Jaramani cannot understand what they were blown up for and make assumptions that they might want to kill a judge who lived in one of the houses. But the judge in general was not at home at this moment, and it was clear that he was at work, and his family had not suffered. They say his wife just wanted to go to the balcony, another second - and would have left ... but did not have time to get out, and the balcony fell ...
    There are suggestions that maybe there was a remote-controlled explosive device, and the terrorist heard that people found the car suspicious. Because it exploded immediately after it was discovered and wanted to be reported to the appropriate authorities.
    One way or another, it was an explosion not near military facilities or state institutions, but near residential buildings. This means that any person who simply lives in his apartment can become a victim of terrorists.
    Perhaps the people are already angry at these freaks finally.
  3. mar.tira
    +6
    6 September 2012
    Greetings to you guys! Yes, the Patriotic War began for the Syrian people. No one can get away. God forbid that every house in Syria would become a grave for these shortcomings. Like our Pavlov’s house.
  4. Che
    Che
    +4
    6 September 2012
    Although you can read on the site about what is happening in Syria. Elena Thundering +++. Our media are silent. Full-scale assistance is needed to the people of Syria in the fight against amers and their rats, all the resources that are available. Create a second Vietnam for Amers.
    1. +14
      6 September 2012
      Quote: Che
      . Our media are silent.

      But the Udaltsovs and others like them are not paying attention to these cattle and support those who kill people. Chirikova announced a fundraiser to help terrorists and is not normal, the mayors of Khimki are balancing.
      1. Che
        Che
        +2
        6 September 2012
        Alexander Romanov,
        Again Chirikova scored. Her friend Tolokonnikova sat down, and it’s time to put that dodger there too.
      2. denn
        +3
        6 September 2012
        In general, it amazes me that this bastard is among us, while next to us they are urging us to destroy us. I hope that in the near future they will create an article for them, under quarantine all of them are needed. It’s somehow bad in my head that the enemies of the people are not only free to live among this people, but also work to destroy it. IMHO.
      3. +1
        6 September 2012
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Chirikova fundraising announced -help terrorists

        And why not announce a fundraiser in support of the Syrian people, I think this fund will be much more popular. And if there is one who knows, drop a line at the coordinates. Thanks in advance
        1. -1
          7 September 2012
          eh, and from this fund money left again will go into the pockets of the Sordimord and their arrogant offspring
        2. Che
          Che
          0
          7 September 2012
          stariy,
          I would not regret my money for a good cause. If only for the good of the people of Syria, but not rats.
      4. 0
        7 September 2012
        and other shameful girls in general shake every half hour, even Poland blathers that everything is bad in Russia
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      6 September 2012
      I agree 100% second. They need to arrange on the financial field that $ would collapse, then the USA will fall apart!
    3. alexg
      0
      6 September 2012
      Che,
      Dear, in my opinion no one objects that Syria needs to be helped. But tell me how? and who will create Vietnam for amers?
      1. Che
        Che
        0
        7 September 2012
        alexg,
        Is Russia really not able to do this. There is still experience.
  5. +1
    6 September 2012
    Did they stop?
  6. танк
    +2
    6 September 2012
    And what has Clinton not yet said that Assad blew up?
    1. танк
      0
      6 September 2012
      And who is the Lithuanian flag stuck to my butt ... I’m actually Russian, where the moderators are looking am or the Kaliningrad region was given to them, but I don’t know?
  7. +2
    6 September 2012
    hmm, the default terror is war without brakes ... you don’t have to go far for an example, remember Beslan (
  8. Docker76
    +2
    6 September 2012
    ..shoot - like rabid dogs ......
    ....... sad
  9. +1
    6 September 2012
    In general, terrorists are the kind of people who are furiously determined to win, but when victory is achieved, they continue to kill, because they can’t do anything else stupidly. After all, none of the terrorists have yet come to the negotiating table with an "adequate" world. Sometimes it is generally believed that a terrorist is subservient to some kind of special service. It was not for nothing that it was said at one time that Bed Laden was a close friend of Bush.
  10. Green
    +3
    6 September 2012
    Yes, it is clear that all the terror in Syria now happening paid and prepared from the outside. And it is clear by whom.
    The attack is powerful both in the media and with the help of terrorist attacks against the Syrian government. They want to tear the country apart from the inside, and then they will bring in troops "to restore order", put their puppets on the throne and ... that's it, trendy.
    The current government needs to severely crush all paid reptiles without paying attention to anyone.
  11. cobra66
    +1
    6 September 2012
    West naturally spirals everything on Assad
    1. Green
      0
      6 September 2012
      Quote: Kobra66
      West naturally spirals everything on Assad


      So it is understandable. Everything goes according to plan, theirs.
      But I think they will break them down there, in Syria, specifically.
    2. -1
      7 September 2012
      first Hussein then Gaddafi is now the turn of Assad and Ahmadinejad
  12. amikan
    +11
    6 September 2012
    I was watching a report on the Day TV channel posted on YouTube.
    There is one man, a correspondent, spoke.
    He has a volunteer channel, he filmed with a cameraman for a couple of months in Syria, and talked about the "progress" of the Syrian army every month.
    Firstly, the army was cleansed of cowards and traitors, they fled in the early days of the war.
    Secondly, patriotic Syrian youth were drawn into the army, respectively, the morale of the latter was higher. They quickly learn and surpass militants in combat skills.
    The correspondent said that he made friends with the commander of some unit (which he forgot) and every day they participated in the sweeps of Damascus and Aleppo.
    The truth is not removed, the Syrian military does not have such a policy. Of course, this is bad, compared to bandits who take off every inexpressive steps ...
    He said that today's Syrian army has become very professional, they simply cut out bandits.
    And the population completely sided with the army, if somewhere the militant sat, bang! the call from the local resident and the bandit is no more.
    He also spoke and filmed captured weapons and passports of Turkish officers. They died a lot in the battles for Aleppo.
    Passports of European and American private security organizations, which together with bandits are destroyed every day.
    In the end, he said - Bashar will stand, he has a hardened, professional army, which in many ways surpasses the brutal Afghan mercenaries and Turkish special forces.
    God grant, God grant ...
    1. Green
      +2
      6 September 2012
      Quote: amikan
      In the end, he said - Bashar will stand, he has a hardened, professional army, which in many ways surpasses the brutal Afghan mercenaries and Turkish special forces.


      Well ... May God survive.
    2. Che
      Che
      +1
      6 September 2012
      amikan,
      +++ Rather, I’m afraid shit-democracy from America will be drawn to the smell of blood.
    3. lars
      +2
      6 September 2012
      This is Professor Musin. Very interesting and honest person. He just said there that the Syrians did not in vain show corpses and captured Turkish military personnel to the world. In the UN Security Council, a permanent channel - let them turn away, and the Syrian army will do its job. Successes to fighters and health of Assad.
    4. 0
      6 September 2012
      Quote: amikan
      I was watching a report on the Day TV channel posted on YouTube.

      This is probably .......
      http://warfiles.ru/show-12215-siriyskaya-hronika.html
  13. 0
    6 September 2012
    And what else can you expect from this rabble? Here would be more such news - http://warfiles.ru/show-12711-za-sutki-v-aleppo-unichtozheny-bolee-100-boevikov.
    html
  14. +3
    6 September 2012
    It turns out that the so-called Syrian rebels, there is no single center that would deal with strategy?
    It's fine! The war against civilians is a testament of despair, hopelessness and the shortest path to defeat.
  15. ZeF
    +3
    6 September 2012
    The article is a huge plus and many thanks to Elena for the review from the place of events, I look forward to the following materials.
    … ..And at the UN tribunes, smoothed Western politicians are again broadcasting that "the regime must leave and transfer power."
    To whom? Fighters with residential buildings, civilian aircraft and hospitals? Those who declared an open hunt for the civilian population of Syria? .......

    This is the ultimate goal of the Anglo-Saxon elite. Syria is just another step on the road to Russia and China.
    ... .. Have a conscience, gentlemen! .......
    No comment
    ....... And open your eyes already to the deeds of your pets!
    Yes, they do not take their eyes off their pets, cover their vile deeds, as they can, with all imaginable and not conceivable methods.
  16. dusha233
    +3
    6 September 2012
    Syria hold on - we are with you !!
  17. Karish
    -10
    6 September 2012
    I just feel like they are going to bite and zamusutuyut me now. But I would like to ask a simple question to Elena. In the light of your comments on the site and the almost declarations of love to Assad (which you have every right to and I respect your attitude to him), how much your articles reflect the real situation in Syria, and not the biased and one-sided view of a person. Not covering events, but delivering only information convenient for him.
    If you go back a few days ago, you did not answer any of the questions posed to you, but only cursing and beaten cliches. Sincerely. hi
    1. amikan
      +3
      6 September 2012
      TovarisCh Korish, but what do you not understand?
      There is a Syrian army that is fighting for the sovereignty of its country, for the head of its state. THEY ARE PROTECTING THEIR STATE.
      And there are bandits, the bottom of the world, a bunch of killers who kill for money.
      Everything is simple, more than.
      I think the "real situation" in the country is covered by the Western media, stamping and chewing on the same facts (information) to please their leaders.
      Musin just said that a representative of one of the Swedish channels turned to them and said that he would buy video material ONLY such where bandits and their brave everyday life will be shown.
      Here is the whole "truthful" Western press.
      1. Karish
        -3
        6 September 2012
        Quote: amikan
        TovarisCh Korish, but what do you not understand?

        Yes, then everything is clear to me and I see Syria at least once a week and without binoculars

        Quote: amikan
        There is a Syrian army that is fighting for the sovereignty of its country, for the head of its state. THEY ARE PROTECTING THEIR STATE

        There is a civil war, which army, the Sunnis have long been dodging, the Alawites and Christians have remained, so they urinate with each other. If Christians still have a way out, then the Alawites do not have it, therefore, not sparing the stomach and until the last drop of blood. Once again I say civil war .. What does the state have to do with it

        Quote: amikan
        I think the "real situation" in the country is covered by the Western media, stamping and chewing on the same facts (information) to please their leaders.

        They lie and Elena is the same. The real info is that there is a war going on. And hardly anyone will tell the truth.

        Quote: amikan
        Musin just said that a representative of one of the Swedish channels turned to them and said that he would buy video material ONLY such where bandits and their brave everyday life will be shown.

        I agree and believe.
        By the way, Elena does the same. only on the other hand.
        1. +4
          7 September 2012
          Quote: Karish
          There is a civil war, which army, the Sunnis have long been dodging, the Alawites and Christians have remained, so they urinate with each other. If Christians still have a way out, then the Alawites do not have it, therefore, not sparing the stomach and until the last drop of blood. Once again I say civil war .. What does the state have to do with it

          It is difficult to call a civil war a war in which mercenaries of all stripes fight on the opposite side.
          The state, despite the fact that Assad’s victory is the only chance for Syria to maintain its independence and territorial integrity.
          1. Karish
            0
            7 September 2012
            Quote: Flood
            It is difficult to call a civil war a war in which mercenaries of all stripes fight on the opposite side.

            Hizbullah (Lebanon) and the IRGC (IRAN) are fighting on Assad’s side

            Quote: Flood
            The state, despite the fact that Assad’s victory is the only chance for Syria to maintain its independence and territorial integrity.

            I agree. about territorial integrity. There are few independent countries.
            1. 0
              8 September 2012
              Quote: Karish
              Hizbullah (Lebanon) and the IRGC (IRAN) are fighting on Assad’s side

              Perhaps I will not argue. Then what kind of civil war can we talk about?
              1. Karish
                0
                8 September 2012
                Quote: Flood
                Perhaps I will not argue. Then what kind of civil war can we talk about?

                There is a base, a basis - this is what is happening in Syria. those. civil war (even the UN recognized this, although the UN is worthless), and what forces are attracted and lubricated to each side of the piano does not play and does not change the definition of conflict.
                Civil war is a large-scale armed confrontation between organized groups within a state [1], or, less commonly, between two nations that were part of a previously united united state [2]. The goal of the parties, as a rule, is the seizure of power in a country or in a particular region, the independence of the region, or a change in government policy [1].
                Signs of a civil war are the presence of elements of the state military-political machine of both warring parties and the national scale of events, the protractedness of the war itself, the retraction of all sections of the population

                Well, tell me which of all this is not in Syria.
        2. Dimon Lviv
          +3
          7 September 2012
          Karish, how can you call this war "civil", when the militants are financed, armed from abroad, come from abroad, supported from abroad?
          1. Karish
            -2
            7 September 2012
            Quote: Dimon Lviv
            Karish, how can you call this war "civil", when the militants are financed, armed from abroad, come from abroad, supported from abroad?

            In any war (including civil war, THERE ARE INTERESTED PARTIES READY TO PAY IT)
            1. Dimon Lviv
              +1
              7 September 2012
              Let's say. I do not accept, but let's say. But a civil war is when the CITIZENS of this country are paid by one of the parties.
              And in the case when one of the parties to the conflict - in this case, the illegal armed Syrian gangs, the US State Department pays the money, or any other side, and even supports intelligence, like Britain, with weapons like the USA, the Arab League and Turkey, coordinates them actions, this is nothing more than an intervention, an attempt to illegally seize power by the armed forces, and interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.
              1. Karish
                -1
                8 September 2012
                Quote: Dimon Lviv
                But a civil war is when the CITIZENS of this country are paid by one of the parties.

                NOT a fact; interested sponsors are always to be found.
                Quote: Dimon Lviv
                And in the case when one of the parties to the conflict - in this case, the illegal armed Syrian gangs, the US State Department pays the money, or any other side, and even supports intelligence, like Britain, with weapons like the USA, the Arab League and Turkey, coordinates them actions, this is nothing more than an intervention, an attempt to illegally seize power by the armed forces, and interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.

                I agree. But this does not cancel the civil war in the state. It’s just a matter of whether Assad would crush a popular uprising or don’t do it with * sponsor * help. But the base remains the base — revolutionary prerequisites for an armed conflict in Syria existed.
                Just a question for fun. Your opinion . Without the support of Russia, how long would separate separatist enclaves exist - Transnistria (part of Moldova), Karabakh (part of Azerbaijan), Ossetia and Abkhazia (part of Georgia). All these countries are not recognized by anyone except the Russian Federation and without the armed and financial assistance of the Russian Federation would long ago cease to exist as autonomous units.
    2. wax
      +4
      7 September 2012
      Well, Elena is in Syria, where are you? Drive and get answers to your questions right on the spot. We are waiting for non-tendentious messages about what we have seen.
      1. Karish
        -5
        7 September 2012
        Quote: Wax

        Well, Elena is in Syria, where are you? Drive and get answers to your questions right on the spot. We are waiting for non-tendentious messages about what they saw

        Well, I’m in Israel and in order to see the fighting going on in the Kuneitra district, there’s not much to be done. By the way, due to the fact that she is in Syria, is her reporting true? At one time, Udugov (the same was in Chechnya), sort of like an eyewitness, but he lied almost everything. I’m not saying that Elena is lying all the time, I affirmly assert that by positioning herself as a staunch supporter of Assad, she a priori cannot give objective information
        By the way, questions to Elena were about the Palestinians and Hamas (and she started this topic herself), but then she somehow left it and, apart from swearing, things did not go anywhere.
        1. amikan
          +3
          7 September 2012
          And what did you see there, sitting in a soft chair, in your Israel?
          You carefully looked at the howling and came to the conclusion that the Alawites kill Sunnis.
          This is such talkative nonsense you ours.
          This nonsense is thrown out by the Western and Jewish media in order to cover up the terrible background of foreign interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.
          1. Karish
            -1
            7 September 2012
            Quote: amikan
            You carefully looked at the howling and came to the conclusion that the Alawites kill Sunnis.

            Well, that’s understandable. You understand, there is a civil war and everyone will recognize this. Let's start with a simple one, a civil war cannot exist without the support of the population. The fact that there are foreigners there without a doubt (in Chechnya they were the same, in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Serbia - everywhere, there is a certain contingent that doesn’t matter for what to fight. Are there countries interested in the Assad’s fall - unconditionally and they don’t sit idly by. But it’s not about all these being mercenaries, the support of countries sits on the same foundation and without which it could not exist - SUPPORTING LARGE LAYERS OF THE POPULATION. Without this, there are no civil wars and terrorist underground. Take Ireland, Basque or at worst Dagestan.
            Therefore, I am not looking for the guilty and the right - in civil wars they are not. The problem is that Assad missed the moment of reform. Like Mubarak, he rigged the last election and the end is known. The prerequisites in Syria have ripened for a long time and Assad simply did not destroy them on time.
        2. 0
          7 September 2012
          Israel itself dreams of a ride in Syria and chop off a piece fatter
    3. 0
      7 September 2012
      cliche is what you praise criminals! and protect them!
      1. Karish
        0
        7 September 2012
        Quote: slav4ikus
        cliche is what you praise criminals! and protect them!

        Yes, I do not praise or protect anyone. For me, all Syrians are bad. and Assad is the best of them, and I am for maintaining Assad’s power. Because only the worst will come to replace. Assad (for me) rules, rules and let him continue to rule.
        Noah for the truthful (if any), more precisely for a variety of information that helps to form an opinion for a person (by the way, to each his own), and not one-sided tendentious tales - such as some soft and fluffy ones. and others to .... s. There people perish on both sides. as I understand it for some ideals, which means that not everything is so simple.
  18. pribolt
    +3
    6 September 2012
    What would help them in Syria attack aircraft SU 25
  19. 0
    6 September 2012
    May God grant patience and resilience to the Syrian people! hi
  20. bask
    +2
    6 September 2012
    It’s time for Bosharu to give weapons to the population so that they can give a fitting rebuff to this killer from all over the world. We must create paramilitary groups to defend their yard, block, district. People will fight for their homes to the last. Then the enemy will not pass.
    1. Karish
      -5
      6 September 2012
      Quote: bask
      It’s time for Bosharu to give weapons to the population so that they can give a fitting rebuff to this killer from around the world.

      Oddly enough, but it is already in their hands.

      Quote: bask
      . It is necessary to create paramilitary groups to protect their yard, block, district. People will fight for their houses to the last.

      this is already happening. You probably do not understand the situation. In Syria, the Sunnis (majority) are fighting against the Alawites (minority)
      Quote: bask
      . Then the enemy will not pass.

      That's just the problem, who has the enemy?
      In Syria, a civil war with a religious bias. It is a pity that dear Elena does not reflect this in her comments. There are no right and guilty there - in a civil war they just stupidly slaughter each other. Therefore, the Alawites (the foundation of the Syrian army) are fighting the Sunnis (religious majority in Syria) not for the idea. Here, just who survives, the Alawites understand that if they lose, they will cut them all or Syria will disintegrate with the separation of the Alavite enclave as a separate state or something like that (with the capital in Latakia). There is no other scenario, the Alawites will not be able to rule anymore, they are a minority, but it’s already impossible to talk about Syria as a homogeneous state in our time. Sorry. Islamic radicals will take their place and it will only get worse. But not seeing the truth is stupid, even if you don’t like the truth.
      1. amikan
        +1
        6 September 2012
        It turns out that the army is fighting the Sunnis?
        Only here is the strength of the Syrian army, count the Alawites more than 2 times in this gangster band, count the Sunnis, that is, the religious majority.
        So?
        1. Karish
          0
          7 September 2012
          Quote: amikan
          Only here is the strength of the Syrian army, count the Alawites more than 2 times in this gangster band, count the Sunnis, that is, the religious majority.

          And where did you get the infa in numbers? Give the numbers.
          1. amikan
            0
            7 September 2012
            To get started, answer my question.
            The Syrian army are fighting against the Sunnis, against the religious majority?
            Did I understand you correctly?
            1. Karish
              0
              7 September 2012
              Quote: amikan
              The Syrian army are fighting against the Sunnis, against the religious majority?
              Did I understand you correctly?

              Absolutely correct.
      2. -5
        6 September 2012
        Quote: Karish
        It is a pity that dear Elena does not

        dear Elena I look and fought for Gaddafi, now for Assad,
      3. Dimon Lviv
        +3
        7 September 2012
        Karish, what
        In Syria, a civil war with a religious bias
        you had a dream, you made it up yourself.

        In ANY country of the world there are contradictions on financial, social, religious grounds, but when this conflict is artificially inflated, financing a clear minority, helping them with weapons, money, and making the clear majority "tyrants and dictators", then this is not a civil war, as you are lying ...
        This is an ordinary intervention!

        P.S. Give me ten billion dollars, complete impunity, the right and the opportunity to collect, arm and send scum and thugs from all over the world to the United States - and in a year I will create the same "civil war" in the United States as they do in Syria, and the public of the whole world will oppose "bloody American regime", yes so. that they themselves will start talking about the introduction of a "no-fly zone" in the States !!!
        1. Karish
          -1
          7 September 2012
          Quote: Dimon Lviv
          but when this conflict is artificially inflated, financing a clear minority, helping them with weapons, money, and making the clear majority "tyrants and dictators", then this is not a civil war, as you are lying.

          Financing a clear minority, are you talking about? About the Alavites. In general, a minority makes the revolution, the same October revolution. But for this, prerequisites must exist, and in Syria there are more than enough of them.
          Quote: Dimon Lviv
          Give me ten billion dollars, complete impunity, the right and the ability to collect, arm and send scum and thugs from all over the world to the United States - and in a year I will create in the United States the same "civil war" as they do in Syria,

          Do not create, there is no revolutionary situation if you know what it is
          The lower classes do not want to live in the old way, the upper classes cannot rule in the new ----- CLASSICS, Teach Marx. tongue
          1. Dimon Lviv
            +2
            7 September 2012
            Karish, "
            there is no revolutionary situation
            - But what do you mean? And yet I, having virtual tens of billions of dollars, will you still be taught how to make revolutions? )))

            If there is no revolutionary situation - it’s not a problem, we’ll create, will you find out what soil it is possible to grow from? No problem:
            1. The United States is a prison country, the state of police dictatorship with the largest number of prisoners in the world, this is about 2,5 million - more than the population of some countries of the world! A lot of convicts for their offenses were sentenced to a disproportionate term - 20, 25 years for a minor theft, and in which case these people would gladly take up arms in order to avenge their suffering. Especially if these weapons are delivered to them from abroad, as the United States is now supplying them to Syrian terrorists, and they are paid how Syrian gangsters are paid dictatorships of the Arab League.
            2. The USA is a country of the poor. Unemployment in the United States exceeded 10% and continues to grow simultaneously with an increase in US foreign debt. Of course, far from all unemployed people will take up arms, but in order to destabilize the situation with a series of sabotage against the bloody American dictatorship, which is spreading hunger over its own people, 0,01 percent of this amount will be enough. The United States will be forced to introduce a red level of terrorist threat that most of its citizens will boil very quickly, and they will ultimately pull the White House apart, to stop this nightmare.
            3. Ordinary separatism. The USA illegally seized part of its territories from Mexico, and a number of other countries. What do you think will happen if you promise some radical citizens of these territories freedom and invite them to join one of the many organizations to combat the American dictatorship?
            4. National liberation movements. In the United States, huge diasporas of immigrants from other countries who are regularly oppressed, preventing them from, say, getting an education in their native language - for example, in the United States alone in 2006, there were more than 3,6 million Chinese people in China alone. The absence of Chinese autonomy in the United States is a clear violation of human rights and democratic principles! But there are still Mexican, Russian, various Asian diasporas ... And that's all, they are all waiting in the wings.

            So, son, grasp one simple truth, which the United States is actively using now: THE DISSATISFIED EVERYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE, in any society, even in paradise, anywhere. Well, to create a "revolutionary situation" out of them, as we can see from the example of, alas, Libya, the former leader in terms of quality of life in Africa, is as easy as shelling pears. There would be dollars, impunity and influence on the world media - at least for their smaller half.
            1. Karish
              -3
              8 September 2012
              Quote: Dimon Lviv
              So that's it, son, learn one simple truth that the US is actively using now: DISSATISFIED IS ALWAYS AND ANYWHERE, in any society, even in paradise, anywhere

              Listen baby, dissatisfied and revolutionary situation - two slightly different things. And if you seriously attribute the nonsense written by you, then the revolution in Ukraine should have happened yesterday laughing
              1. Dimon Lviv
                +1
                8 September 2012
                Karish, son, do you understand poorly what I wrote to you?
                For those who are in super-mega-transport, I explain the points:

                1. there are dissatisfied everywhere, it is a fact, IN ANY COUNTRY OF THE WORLD.
                Not a "revolutionary situation", but the ground for it - people who are dissatisfied with something.
                When there are enough of them in the country, so many percent of the population, a revolution can happen by itself - without outside influence, as it was in Libya, when Colonel Gaddafi came to power. The fact that this revolution was really supported by the population clearly says that NO ONE MAN died in its course.
                2. When there are not very many dissatisfied in the country, as it was in Libya, in Syria, as it is now in the USA, the revolutionary situation, and then the revolution, is organized artificially:
                They start with paid rallies, it is highly desirable that the authorities brutally disperse them. For some reason, the fact that the rallies were illegal, without the permission of the authorities, does not suck at anyone, although the authorities, dispersing them, are in their own right. In general, it is wonderful when someone dies during the dispersal of a rally - a REASON appears. If in the police there are such rams that they cannot dare to shoot at fellow citizens, then, as in Libya, their role is played by "unknown snipers" - and "quite by accident" a person is nearby, filming the victim with a cell phone camera. For some reason no one wants to think about how likely it is that in a crowd of thousands of people who will shoot exactly the person who has become a victim of the "unknown sniper". Well, after that, "the opposition begins to defend itself against the bloody regime" and starts shooting at the military, who had not touched them before.
                The military naturally begin to shoot back, and again there are screams about "the shooting of civilians." Militants from all over the world urgently arrive to the aid of the "civilians", money, the latest weapons, instead of rusty Kalash, they are helped by intelligence from satellites and agents, they are provided with the latest communication systems, and that's it, the process has begun - they seize some settlement, drive administration, police, and establish a semblance of their power, provoking the army to come and drive them away. Victims in the cleansing process are passed off as "a dictator destroys his own people" (the fact that half of these sacrifices are foreign citizens again do not suck anyone), and a demand for external intervention is being pushed through the UN Security Council, while the "peacekeepers" are extremely active in helping the minority and physically exterminating the legitimate majority military when they defend themselves against an attacking minority.

                I explained to you how it is possible to create from a bunch of dissatisfied not just a revolutionary situation, but the revolution itself? Enough for you to make yourself a clown, and so the whole forum does not support you. It seems that you are already coming here to troll, and not just express your opinion.
                1. Karish
                  -2
                  8 September 2012
                  Quote: Dimon Lviv
                  I explained to you how it is possible to create from a bunch of dissatisfied not just a revolutionary situation, but the revolution itself?

                  The October Revolution may be an example of this (well paid by the Germans) But back to the basics, a revolutionary situation must exist. The crisis of the upper classes (not the ability to control) and not the contentment of the lower classes. IMHO,
                  1. Dimon Lviv
                    0
                    8 September 2012
                    For those who are not just on an armored train, but also in a tank hidden in it:
                    A revolutionary situation IS CREATED ARTIFICIALLY.
                    It MAY BE CREATED ARTIFICIALLY if there is at least a certain percentage of dissatisfied, and it was created artificially in Syria.

                    You just do not see the obvious support of the Syrian terrorists by the West and the Arab League, and you can’t compare the rad of elementary facts ??? Or are you just a troll? Well, with trolls, the conversation will be completely different.
      4. +3
        7 September 2012
        what kind of religious war ???? How much do you need to be a stupid person to accept mercenaries and bandits (terrorists) of all stripes for ideological fighters for faith ??? they do not care for the Syrian people and its minorities
        1. Karish
          -1
          7 September 2012
          Quote: slav4ikus
          what kind of religious war ???? How much do you need to be a stupid person to accept mercenaries and bandits (terrorists) of all stripes for ideological fighters for faith ??? they do not care for the Syrian people and its minorities

          Not a religious war, but a civil war with a religious component.
  21. -4
    6 September 2012
    this one is also Thundering. from her website: SYRIA TODAY - سورية اليوم - SYRIA TODAY
    Do you respect your personal affection for the president?
    1. +3
      6 September 2012
      Quote: igor67
      Do you respect your personal affection for the president?
      Hi Igor. But what is bad if there is an attachment to a legitimate president who wants to preserve a secular state? I'm worried about Assad too. And he was for the regime of Gaddafi. So what? This is my personal opinion and cannot be changed.
      1. -5
        6 September 2012
        Locomotive,
        Dear Eugene! somehow I like simple people more than politicians, but these hearts for a serious journalist are superfluous, and I looked in Google like she on all sites and every day new articles, I saw her photo at various demonstrations in Moscow and Damascus.
  22. bask
    +3
    6 September 2012
    Mr. Korish I am well aware of the ethnic and religious composition of the population in Syria. You are all reduced to inter-religious massacre. This is completely untrue. In the Syrian army, 50% of Sunnis in the officer corps are about 28%. And there are also 12% of Christians, Druze Circassians Sunnis 100% are fighting in the Assad army. This is a war with NATO and the international org. crime. Not to see the truth is not just stupid, but stupid.
    1. wax
      +1
      7 September 2012
      Mr. Korish has his own point of view, and not only has, but also promotes it to the best of his ability. Moreover, he is not stupid and not stupid. He just has glasses with aberration.
      1. Karish
        -2
        7 September 2012
        Quote: Wax
        Oppodin Korish has his own point of view, and not only has, but also promotes it to the best of his ability.

        I do not propagate anything and each point of view is his own, I just give that info and my thoughts that I know. And I just convince myself that I need to rely on several sources of information to draw up a point of view, and not just tensious Elena. What would then not be a shame.
    2. Karish
      -4
      7 September 2012
      Quote: bask
      This is a war with NATO and the international org. crime. Not to see the truth is not just stupid, but stupid.

      No fairy tales .please. If only instead of NATO and ORGANIZED CRIME they wrote - the Arab countries, as it would be possible to talk about something. But everything else is nonsense. Sunnis in the army do not fight. Basically the 4th division is fighting, all the Alawites. By the way, it would be foolish to assume that absolutely every Sunni deserted. But troops equipped with Sunnis are not involved in military operations and weapons (how many truths remain in the troops) are withdrawn.
      1. amikan
        +1
        7 September 2012
        Where did you get such information?
        And your confidence strikes me, you were in Syria and asked who and how professes this or that branch of Islam?
        Or maybe just ALL without exception, the Alawites, Shiites, Sunnis united to expel the invaders.
        Does false liberal propaganda masterfully distort the facts?
        1. Karish
          -1
          7 September 2012
          Quote: amikan
          And your confidence strikes me, you were in Syria and asked who and how professes this or that branch of Islam?

          Look who supports whom and understand. Opposition - Saudis and Turkey (Sunnis) Assad - Iran (Shiites)
          Quote: amikan
          Or maybe just ALL without exception the Alawites, Shiites, Sunnis united to expel the invaders

          How many of these invaders got there? Hundreds of thousands? Without the support of the population, no civil war or terrorist underground can exist. IMHO.
    3. +1
      7 September 2012
      bask
      This is a war with NATO and the international org. crime. Not to see the truth is not just stupid, but stupid.

      Customer - Qatar and Saudis. And the United States "protects" them, having its own interest.
      Well, the Europeans have invested a little bit, just over $ 100 million.
    4. Karish
      0
      7 September 2012
      Quote: bask
      In the Syrian army, 50% of the Sunnis in the officer corps are about 28%.

      About 86% of the Syrian population are Muslims, 10% are Christians. Of the Muslims, 82% are Sunnis, the rest are Alawites and Ismailis, as well as Shiites, whose number has been steadily increasing since 2003 due to the influx of refugees from Iraq.
      Among Christians, half are Syrian Orthodox, 18% are Catholics (mainly members of the Syrian Catholic and Melkite Catholic churches).
      Significant communities of the Armenian Apostolic and Russian Orthodox churches are present.
      About 3% of the population are Druze [31], which are considered by some scholars as extreme Shiites. [32]
      In 1978, about five thousand Yezidis lived in Syria.

      70% of the Syrian population are Muslims Sunnis, and only 28 in the army (officers) why? Christian 10%, and 12% in the Army. Alavites are less than 10% in the ethnic composition of Syria, and how many of them in the army, why not mention ? [
      Quote: bask
      Druze Circassian Sunnis 100% fight in the army of Assad.

      Druze today do not fight. I don’t know the Circassians, but there was a request to Russia to return the Syrian Circassians to the Caucasus.
      Quote: bask
      Not seeing the truth is not just stupid, but stupid.

      And I say stupid.
  23. +1
    7 September 2012
    in the world and in our country (what a pity) there are always scum that support any Western machinations
  24. Che
    Che
    0
    7 September 2012
    On the front pages of Turkish newspapers, reports of military operations from neighboring Syria are published, photographs of destroyed cities, burning tanks, armed oppositionists in Arab headscarves reporting new victories. Journalists from publications close to the government call for "fraternal international help" to the Syrian people, report mass actions in support of the Syrian revolution, publish articles titled "Turkey is the best friend of the Syrian people." Here is a quote from a similar article: “I am sure that we are doing the right thing,” writes the famous Turkish journalist Mustafa Akyel, “The bloodthirsty Syrian regime neglects human lives. That is why I see no reason to condemn my government, but rather I am proud of the role that it plays in the world. Sooner or later, the Assad regime will fall. The new free democratic Syria will thank us and will never forget the support it received during these difficult days. "

    This is how Turkey’s closest neighbor behaves. Global changes are coming. Turkey risks being fragmented into enclaves.
    1. Karish
      -1
      7 September 2012
      Quote: Che
      On the front pages of Turkish newspapers, reports of military operations from neighboring Syria are published, photographs of destroyed cities, burning tanks, armed oppositionists in Arab headscarves, who report on new victories. Journalists from publications close to the government call for "fraternal international help" to the Syrian people, report mass actions in support of the Syrian revolution, publish articles entitled "Turkey is the best friend of the Syrian people."

      Well, just in Turkey there is a * ELENA * bully laughing
  25. +1
    7 September 2012
    And in the UN stands, smoothed Western politicians again say that "the regime must leave and hand over power."

    To whom? Fighters with residential buildings, civilian aircraft and hospitals? Those who declared an open hunt for the civilian population of Syria? Have a conscience, gentlemen! And open your eyes already to the deeds of your pets!

    It was hard and painful to read this article ... And most importantly, I know that without it everything is so! For any article you need! recourse
  26. Morani
    -2
    8 September 2012
    China favors a change of power in Syria
    China has officially spoken out in support of a change of political power in Syria, but against foreign intervention, Reuters reported. After talks with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Beijing, Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi, in particular, said: "We, like many other countries, fully support the idea of ​​a peaceful transfer of power in Syria."
    At the same time, Yang emphasized the position of his country: "Any decision must come from the Syrian people and reflect their legitimate wishes. There should be no external pressure here."
    The Chinese authorities announced on June 30 that one of the possible solutions to the Syrian crisis could be the formation of an interim government from among opponents and supporters of the current regime. Such a government would have to prepare for free elections.
    Moreover, Beijing then, as now, opposed the repetition of the Libyan scenario, in which the rebels, with the help of external forces, achieved the overthrow of the ruling regime and the elimination of dictatorship.
    China made statements about the need for a transfer of power in Syria amid an escalation of violence in that country. Syrian rebels, having received portable anti-aircraft systems from abroad, were able to counter government aircraft, which significantly complicated the solution of combat missions for the army.
    So, the Syrian military for more than a month can not take control of the city of Aleppo - the financial and economic capital of the country.
  27. -1
    8 September 2012
    Mr. Korish here is some kind of nonsense is PPC .... how is it possible to take away weapons from army units ???? Ahahahah)))) Or maybe the army Sunnis still support their rightful president?) I would still listen to you if you were from Syria, and so you write from Germany, we are told that from Israel ..... someone is calling However
    1. Karish
      0
      8 September 2012
      Quote: Smoke
      Mr. Korish here is some kind of nonsense is PPC .... how is it possible to take away weapons from army units ???? Ahahahah)))

      Very simple, did you run in the army with a machine gun or was he kept in a weapons room? And so with everything else, to take away - it's just to take the warehouses under protection and not give out laughing
  28. Lustrator
    +2
    8 September 2012
    Western layman does not give a shit about anything that goes beyond his sphere of interest. And on the peaceful, and on the military Arabs too, even on the bandits-mercenaries. Why should the "enlightened" Europeans, who borrowed a lot of useful things (even just to wash!) From the East, worry about those whom they dreamed of turning into minced meat? This hungry crowd doesn't care who they kill.

    The colonial empires of Europe did not cease to exist, they simply changed the form of existence. A miserable insidious old woman-Europe in a starched shirt of an imaginary civilization is saliva and nervously squinting with rat eyes, staring at foreign lands since her childhood. They were like nomads, so they remained, giving rise to another oozing hemorrhoids on the planet - the USA, which will soon devour them themselves.

    In principle, if the Arabs, regardless of which side they are on now, are not able to withstand these impudent monkeys, let them be prepared to accept their fate. This, incidentally, is not only their concern.

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