Sociologists called the results of a poll in Ukraine on Putin's article on the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples a sensation

In Ukraine, a survey was conducted on the attitude of the country's citizens to what Russian President Vladimir Putin wrote in his article. Recall that the main thesis of the article by the Russian leader was the thesis of the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian (as well as Belarusian) peoples.

Vladimir Putin:

The Russian and Ukrainian peoples are not just fraternal peoples, they are one people.

Representatives of the Ukrainian authorities, hastening to react to these words of Vladimir Putin, declared that it was "not true." But many citizens of Ukraine do not agree with their authorities in this case.

Thus, according to the rating company (Ukraine), which conducted a public opinion survey, more than 40 percent of the Ukrainians surveyed agree with Putin's thesis about the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples.

Attention is drawn to the fact that the survey was not conducted in the territories not controlled by Kiev. If it were extended to Donbass, the percentage would be even higher.

55% of the polled citizens of Ukraine said that Russian and Ukrainian are “different peoples”. 4% could not give a definite answer.

According to Ukrainian sociologists, a real sensation according to the results of the poll was that the largest number of those supporting the thesis of the President of Russia about the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples is among young people (under the age of 30). The indicator is almost 45%. This is even higher than that of Ukrainians born and raised during the Soviet era.

It is noted that the initial forecast of sociologists was as follows: no more than a third of Ukrainians will express a similar opinion with the opinion of the President of Russia.

Such indicators, as noted by some Ukrainian media outlets, indicate that the policy of opposing the Russian and Ukrainian peoples, which is being pursued by official Kiev, clearly does not lead to the result in the medium term, which many representatives of the authorities had hoped for.

Comments

[Fungus]

Half of the Ukrainians are for us. Not bad, not bad. In case of trouble, they will join us and together we will hammer Bandera's scum right up to the Polish border.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Fungus

Half of the Ukrainians are for us. Not bad, not bad

Yes, as it were, more than half just consider us non-brothers.

Quote: Fungus

In case of trouble, they will join us

Even less than half of us recognize something in common with us, and there are even fewer people willing to join us.
It seems that everything is written in Russian, as you saw it.

[Artyom Karagodin]

I think we still need to make allowances for the fact that many of those who believe that we are one people are simply afraid to speak about it out loud.

[dorz]

There is a lot of "noise" in the article, the main message is that the Bolsheviks are to blame for the collapse of the USSR.

[Artyom Karagodin]

The message has a place to be, but with the fact that it is the main, obvious overkill. The main thing is there -

The Russian and Ukrainian peoples are not just fraternal peoples, they are one people.

[dorz]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

The message has a place to be, but with the fact that it is the main, obvious overkill. The main thing is there -

The Russian and Ukrainian peoples are not just fraternal peoples, they are one people.

These peoples do not think so, you can find polls on this topic in "Runet".

[New Year day]

Quote: dorz

These peoples do not think so, you can find polls on this topic in "Runet".

Do not spoil the "logic"
In Russia, about 70% think so

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

The Russian and Ukrainian peoples are not just fraternal peoples, they are one people.

Fuckers are the last ones who believe the crafty figures of Ukrainian "polls" and "ratings" in the conditions of modern Ukraine. I am simply not talking about ill-wishers and enemies who strenuously "rub in" the "truth" about discord.

You are right, of course, that many do NOT say. Who speaks openly? That's right, Svidomity and Bandera. Therefore, these are the numbers. BUT IN FACT true percentages are about 2 times higher for and 2 times lower against.

[Olkhovsky]

Fuckers are the last ones who believe the crafty figures of Ukrainian "polls" and "ratings" in the conditions of modern Ukraine.

Even more suckers, those who believe the polls and ratings of VTsIOM in the conditions of modern Russia.

[Magog_]

The hint is clear, but in fact the "communists" of the Interregional group of deputies of the Congress of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR (Yeltsin, Sobchak and Co.) contributed a lot to the collapse of the Union, June 12 is a great public holiday in today's Russia, and Gazprom is a national treasure ...

[Region-25.rus]

well yes. Lenin is to blame for everything - he poked around, laid down, you know, mines. And he left no maps of minefields. For already 30 years, the "poor" have not been able to kill everything.

[MBRSS]

dorz, the article is clearly sharpened for elections.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

I think we still need to make allowances for the fact that many of those who believe that we are one people are simply afraid to speak about it out loud.

You also need to take into account that most likely almost no one has read the article, and if you have familiarized yourself with the squeeze and comments of the office. 're coming out. MEDIA.
Again, how the question was posed during sociological research.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Pandiurin

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

I think we still need to make allowances for the fact that many of those who believe that we are one people are simply afraid to speak about it out loud.

You also need to take into account that most likely almost no one has read the article, and if you have familiarized yourself with the squeeze and comments of the office. 're coming out. MEDIA.
Again, how the question was posed during sociological research.

Article taken from the BBC website. Today I read the original there.

[Olkhovsky]

The article was published in two languages ​​- Russian and Surzhik. Whoever wanted to, got acquainted on the website prez. RF.

[Incomprehensible]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

I think we still need to make allowances for the fact that many of those who believe that we are one people are simply afraid to speak about it out loud.

And if Russia creates conditions when they have nothing to fear (the fascist regime of power), then the results of such polls will be completely different.

Except for those who, in accordance with the current situation, quickly change their clothes, change the flag. Such "own" Russia does not need)

[New Year day]

Quote: Incomprehensible

And create Russia conditions when they have nothing to fear

Or maybe it is necessary to create a model of life in a self-sufficient and just state with a sane and replaceable power without crooks?

[Incomprehensible]

Then you criticize the return of Crimea, since it was the current government that recaptured it from the Americans.

Will there be any specific proposals on the questions you have raised?
Or is it all the steam in the whistle?

[New Year day]

Quote: Incomprehensible

since it is the current power recaptured it from the Americans.

Itself? Without Crimeans?

Quote: Incomprehensible

Will there be any specific proposals on the questions you have raised?

And this is called extremism

[Incomprehensible]

quote = Silvestr] And this is called extremism [/ quote]

[quote = Silvestr] Or maybe you need to create a model of life in a self-sufficient and just state with a sane and replaceable power without crooks? [/ quote]

And what are you trying to achieve with such a comment, while fearing its development? I also write - steam in the whistle.

Sori for the quality of the citation - it's not very convenient from a smartphone.

[New Year day]

Quote: Incomprehensible

And what are you trying to achieve with such a comment, while fearing its development?

I am not afraid, I am watching. Those who declared such a thing are condemned, but society is not yet ripe for conclusions. Remember Lenin at least. And I watch the convulsions of power, which destroys itself, and of us at the same time, of course. You just do not need to interfere with her, she will do everything herself and there are already many examples of this, but so far not enough.

[Incomprehensible]

Quote: Silvestr

I am not afraid, I am watching. Those who declared such a thing are condemned, but society is not yet ripe for

So you are a parrot: you parody everyone, not having your own point of view. The main thing is to reproduce the sound ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Incomprehensible

So you are a parrot: you parody everyone, not having your own point of view.

Looks like you didn't get it, well, okay.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Incomprehensible

Will there be any specific proposals on the questions you have raised?

Return Crimea - Sevastopol again! Only together with Donbass and all Ukraine, friendly to Russia. Don't argue with Citizen Sylvester. He passionately "loves" Russia with all the former, present and future authorities.

[New Year day]

Quote: 30 vis

Return Crimea - Sevastopol again!

I would like to see proof of your opus. Balabol is local. You shouldn't seem more Russian than Russians themselves

Quote: 30 vis

He passionately "loves" Russia with all the former, present and future authorities.

You see from these

crawling

[Xnumx vis]

And all the best to you! Do not be ill!

[Sasha from Uralmash]

Bravo! Bots do not like the truth! Kill them Sylvestur!

[Mikhail Ishin]

** Then you criticize the return of Crimea, since it was the current government that recaptured it from the Americans. * "
The Americans ?? Wow .. is this news ??

[Tank jacket]

I love that ...
Or maybe you will do that first? ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Yes, as it were, more than half just consider us non-brothers.

I forgot how ... Sam Brooke!
Sam is our Guinean Brutus!

[New Year day]

Quote: Jacket in stock

as you looked like that.

It's like having a glass half full

[bayard]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Yes, as it were, more than half just consider us non-brothers.

Do not forget that this was a UKRAINIAN poll, and answering frankly in their conditions is extremely risky. Older people are usually the most cautious in their expressions. But young people are more outspoken, that's why 45%.
In reality, this opinion is shared by about two-thirds of the population, but not everyone admits it today. And this is without taking into account those who are working today or have migrated to Russia. And without the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, in which (even in the controlled territories) such polls are not carried out in principle.

Quote: Jacket in stock

Even less than half of us recognize something in common with us, and there are even fewer people willing to join us.

You can't even imagine HOW MANY there were such people in 2014, and after 7,5 years of power of the putschists and their last survivors, their number has definitely not decreased.
But not everyone will speak openly about this today.
And if Ukrainian (!) Sociologists have drawn SUCH figures, then they have absolutely no seams.
Especially after gagging Zelenskiy from Biden and Merkel.

[Peak]

There, Zelensky blew up something in response to the GDPR article.

But IT is not worth your attention ...

But this (video) is worth paying attention to. This is a demonstration that we have not lost everything in Ukraine.

Religious procession of the UOC (actually parishioners of the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate) in Kiev.

It is significant that the culmination of the course was the service at the monument to Vladimir the Baptist, the work of Russian sculptors:
- Baron Peter Karlovich Klodt (1805-1867) Academician and Honored Professor of the Imperial Academy of Arts. A valid state councilor (1859).
-Alexander Andreevich Ton (1790-1858) - architect, graphic artist and lithographer, state councilor, academician and honored professor of architecture at the Imperial Academy of Arts (1853).
- Vasily Ivanovich Demut-Malinovsky (1778 - 1846) - the largest representative of the Russian Empire style

[Practik2012]

Yesterday I took part in the procession myself, I have never seen so many people, more than 350 thousand people. I was surprised that quite a lot from western Ukraine, Rivne region, Volyn. At 13:00, prayer began near the monument to Vladimir the Great, and then at about 4:XNUMX a stream of people walked past the government quarter to the Lavra. It is impossible to convey that atmosphere, and what kind of people! Imagine so many people, and there was no crush, no shouts, all polite and joyful with bright, lively faces.

[Peak]

Quote: Practik2012

Yesterday I took part in the procession myself, I have never seen so many people, more than 350 thousand people.

Imposing

[t-4]

Quote: Fungus

Half of the Ukrainians are for us. Not bad, not bad. In case of trouble, they will join us.

Who told you that?
Half of Ukrainians agree that we are one people, and that's all!
Maybe they, considering that we are one people, want to annex Smolensk to themselves. And Rostov and Kuban.
Have you ever had such a thought?
And in the event of a mess, it is not known what will happen.

[Civil]

Not everyone has fought for "one people" yet?

[t-4]

Let's go to war if the Motherland orders.
And I want to say that for some reason everyone represents the United State on the terms of the subordination of the territories to Moscow.
And no one has any thoughts that our brothers are Slavs, perhaps they do not mind living with us in the same country, but the capital will be, for example, in Kiev.
We will obey Kiev. We will have Kiev Rus.
How many Russians would agree to such an alignment?

[awdrgy]

By the way, that's a good question .. Of course, the capital will have to be changed. And then there are two options: 1. (conditionally American) - a new one is being built based on the results of the vote (which in some way is not correct for obvious reasons) 2. The nearest regional city is selected (because the basic infrastructure is available) to the center of the triangle, the corners of which are in the capitals (which is economically and politically expedient) or geographic centers (not bad from a military point of view) are still separate states.

[bayard]

Why do you need these difficulties with new capitals?
Whoever unites, that and the capital. It has always been that way.
If it was Kiev that was the center of the ideology that unites all Russians, if initiatives and positiveness emanated from it, who would doubt where the epicenter of the Russian spirit, thought and civilization as a whole is.
But this is not so!
After all, just right after the reunification, albeit temporarily, the capital of Ukraine \ Little \ Novorossiya again to Kharkov to move.
Kiev has no power, no law, no authority.
In Kiev, the courts of the military tribunal are still coming - like the Nuremberg one.

[awdrgy]

So it is so, but there is still Belarus, besides, it is necessary to take into account the mentality of the Ukrainian population (after all, there are slight differences) There are already a lot of problems, so it is better to smooth them out. In the end, the people are united, but not the state. it turned out only to separate ... Yes, and in the capitals the majority of those who, shall we say, have settled down now, or several generations ago (cities are consumers), should be avoided, but this is another topic, extensive and very controversial.

[bayard]

Quote: awdrgy

So it is so, but there is still Belarus,

It's easier with Belarus today, after the Tikhanovskaya Sabbath and in the light of the rumbling armor of the tolerant West and their girls represented by the defense ministers.
Russia has recently collected its lands - after the Civil War and during WWII.
And quite successfully.
And if tomorrow there is "another war", then the processes must be accelerated and the borders must be urgently moved to the west.

[awdrgy]

You do not quite understand me. I'm talking about the people who, in the current situation, do not take active actions from any side. The reason, of course, should be sought in its remoteness from the administrative (elite) part of each state. As time has shown (even if the last 10 years). It is quite obvious that the majority of the population did not support the currents undertaken with the help of propaganda by the authorities of each of the three states. 5% of the conditionally passionate part of the population should not be taken in serious calculations (because no one knows whether it is a passionary part or an inspired and (or) morally unstable) The elite (administrative apparatus) of each of the three states over the past decades has shown its inadequacy in terms of uniting the people and counting on it in the current situation is the same as taking the error as a significant part of the answer (although the impossible from the word does not happen at all, but this is from the category of a miracle) By force, of course, you can unite the people, which was shown by the Soviet government in the past, but not for long. The system turned out to be unstable (no true merger took place), the peculiarities of the mentality were not taken into account, and no one was going to do this. And what we have now is a consequence of those mistakes. That is why the union should be based on different principles and the new capital is so ... the tip of the iceberg (albeit the tip). A necessary but not a sufficient condition, one might say. And there will be no war tomorrow because there is no motive. You can fight against us either for resources or for territories. We are already selling the first to the right and to the left (and far from the tridorog), and not we, but their owners (resources), against whom not a war is needed, but a special operation that has nothing to do with us. The second (territory) is yes, but certainly not the European part (and the resources in the same place in the east), and therefore the enemy is different (not from the west).

[bayard]

This is all nonsense. For the success of any business, will is needed. If the will is there, and there are resources, success is assured.

Quote: awdrgy

about the people who do not take active action in the current situation

The people never do anything by themselves. And he reacts passively to everything.
And it never gets turned on by itself.
No leader / chiefs, or a shepherd, if it is a religious flock.
If you want to prevent the uprising - knock out the leaders / leaders / shepherds.
Society is a system with an external start.

Quote: awdrgy

The elite (administrative apparatus) of each of the three states over the past decades has shown its inadequacy in terms of uniting the people

This elite never tried to unite anything. They (these elites) appeared and acquired all their capabilities thanks to the split of the United State. All their property is stolen from the public.

Quote: awdrgy

Of course, you can unite the people by force,

Strength always breaks strength. Strength is, first of all, WILL + resource.
The unification was effective, because it was based on the Will and was expressed in ideology.
If society is deprived of will and ideas (ideology), society will degrade and die.
And apparently, this is the goal of the current elites.
Rather, those who are behind them.

Quote: awdrgy

And there will be no war tomorrow

War is an extremely irrational thing: "Nobody wanted war - war was inevitable."
War is always an instrument of someone's perverse will.
You can accept this truth or not, but this will not change anything.
For a long time "War goes on without war."
It doesn't matter for what these unkind people want to kill you, it is important HOW you yourself feel about it. Do you have the WILL for life.
AND IDEA for this life.

Quote: awdrgy

and the enemy is different (not from the west).

When there are several opponents ... the duel becomes somewhat intricate.

[awdrgy]

If it was Kiev that was the center of the ideology that unites all Russians, if initiatives and positiveness emanated from it, who would doubt where the epicenter of the Russian spirit, thought and civilization as a whole is.
But this is not so!

which contradicts the statement

This elite never tried to unite anything. They (these elites) appeared and acquired all their capabilities thanks to the split of the United State. All their property is stolen from the public.

in conjunction with the statement

The people never do anything by themselves. And he reacts passively to everything.
And it never gets excited by itself. Without a leader / leaders, or a shepherd, if this is a religious flock.

Especially considering the modern means of communication.
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[quote Power always breaks power. Strength is, first of all, WILL + resource.
The unification was effective, because it was based on the Will and was expressed in ideology.
If society is deprived of will and ideas (ideology), society will degrade and die.
And apparently, this is the goal of the current elites.
Rather, those who are behind them.]

[/ Quote]
I see no contradictions with

By force, of course, you can unite the people, which was shown by the Soviet regime in the past, but not for long.

About the war

War is always an instrument of someone's perverse will.

I agree that it is possible to say so, but first of all, war as an action is a way to achieve the goal, which I outlined above.

When there are several opponents ... the duel becomes somewhat intricate.

The number of abortions in the country can also be considered a war with its population, but special operations (albeit on a global scale) and war are different things.

[bayard]

Quote: awdrgy

But this is not so!

Quote: awdrgy

This elite never tried to unite anything.

There are no contradictions - one follows from the other.

Quote: awdrgy

About the war
War is always an instrument of someone's perverse will.

I agree that it is possible to say so, but first of all, war as an action is a way to achieve the goal, which I outlined above.

War is the solution of political problems by other methods.

Quote: awdrgy

The number of abortions in the country can also be considered a war with its population, but special operations (albeit on a global scale) and war are different things.

Wars are different - hot, cold, economic, environmental, sanitary and epidemiological, financial, informational, mental and ideological, terrorist (waging war through a series of terrorist attacks). All of them are usually associated with political and diplomatic pressure.
War is the achievement of a goal in a way other than diplomacy.
Total war is the choice of the losing side in all other positions.

[awdrgy]

How is it that there are no contradictions? The elite is not going to unite, the people, too. Who, then, is the right? How strong is it? Where is the epicenter of the Russian spirit, thought, civilization? He is not in Kiev, nor in Moscow. Where??? My answer is the people, and yours?
Generally you wrote-

War is always an instrument of someone's perverse will.

I replied-

first of all, war as an action is a way to achieve a goal

Now you write that

War is the solution of political problems by other methods.

и

War is the achievement of a goal in a way other than diplomacy.

, which is generally a special case from my statement.
You will decide already because some kind of throwing from one to another is visible and not only the logical chain of the dialogue is lost, but also its essence. I understand that you want to designate something, but each of the interlocutors has his own worldview, and since it is somewhat different, it is necessary to designate it more unambiguously.

[bayard]

Quote: awdrgy

How is it that there are no contradictions? The elite is not going to unite, the people, too.

Yes, it just needs to be realized.

Quote: awdrgy

Who, then, is the right? How strong is it? Where is the epicenter of the Russian spirit, thought, civilization? He is not in Kiev, nor in Moscow. Where??? My answer is in the people, and yours?

This is not the people themselves, for it is just the environment, but the strength and personalities generated by this people. In the existing elite, there are no such people by definition - there was its own negative selection on a completely different principle.

Quote: awdrgy

You will decide already because some kind of throwing from one to another is visible and not only the logical chain of the dialogue is lost, but also its essence.

There is no throwing, there is a conscious limitation in self-expression ... Excuse me.

Quote: awdrgy

I understand that you want to designate something, but each of the interlocutors has his own worldview, and since it is somewhat different, it is necessary to designate it more unambiguously.

Everything has its time and place, while awareness is more important than active actions.
Now it is more important to understand / realize HOW to act / live it is impossible, and only after that will the realization of ways of solving these issues come.
This is the way.
Not by the blind guidance of the driver (by hands), but by the awareness of the problem and the NEED to resolve it.
These are complex processes, not for an emotional impulse decision to action, but the evolution of one's own consciousness.
It's good to think about it.
Then the decisions about the right actions will come by themselves.
First you need to change yourself.

[private person]

In the event of a mess, they will join us and together we will hammer Bandera's scum right up to the Polish border.

Yes, take it easy, no one will join you. The article clearly states 55% against and this is the majority. Yes, even here in Russia, many do not consider the land a brotherly people, and as you put it together we will hammer the Bandera scum, these are only your dreams. Spill your blood for these wretched ones?

[awdrgy]

Our wise and noble ancestors thought broader ... That is why there is oil and gas on the territory of Russia, but I am sure that even then those who pushed wheat and potash to Europe were not particularly concerned about the development of Siberia. By the way, now we have problems with demography and although I do not agree with the phrase about people and oil, which sounded not so long ago, Ukrainians and Belarusians make up a very large part of our people.

[Nycteaph]

Half and this is only according to the Ukrainian "poll." In fact, the numbers may be even higher.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Nycteaph

In fact, the numbers may be even higher.

The mentality is already different

[URAL72]

the largest number of those supporting the thesis of the President of Russia about the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples is among young people (under the age of 30). The indicator is almost 45%. This is even higher than that of Ukrainians born and raised during the Soviet era. "

Really unexpected. So much for a different mentality. That's what the internet life-giving is doing! Where are they without Runet? Man does not live by the Censor alone. And apart from the Russian from the foreign ones, is it possible that Polish is available to them? They have been hunching at Panov for a long time. English is still a rarity, a translator will not save, because downloading something for free is not about them, in the west they pay for it, but they sit for pirated downloading.

[New Year day]

Quote: URAL72

So much for a different mentality.

A surprise in another - who then is in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbas?

[URAL72]

There are all sorts of things in the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbas. I will tell you as a militia with 7 years of experience. Where there are "good soldiers" - there is always war, where they are not there - if we do not shoot, then they do not shoot either. The most difficult situation is in the Mariupol direction, there is Nazi Azov. True, the special forces scattered groups of snipers along the entire front, But this is also not the APU.

[New Year day]

Quote: URAL72

But this is also not the APU.

The APU is not the APU, but are armed

[DV tam 25]

Scum and rogue mostly. Among this manure there are also ideological ones, as without them. The amount of this scum fits perfectly into all social and social methods. Interestingly, during the Great Patriotic War, the number of traitors and collaborators approximately coincided in percentage terms in those territories with modern realities. So there is nothing new.

[private person]

In fact, the numbers may be even higher.

Or maybe lower?

[awdrgy]

I dare to correct - to unite, and not to join, because if the accession made sense (both logical and political), then it would have already taken place.

[what's up]

And there the Poles will meet the Banderlog! They have long wanted to devote their heads to them. :)

[barclay]

Such indicators, as noted by some Ukrainian media, suggests that the policy of opposing the Russian and Ukrainian peoples, which is being conducted by official Kiev, clearly does not lead to the same result in the medium term, which many government officials were counting on.
But this is a big question. I think that it is necessary to better study not the numbers themselves, but their dynamics. I think that from year to year this dynamics is in the direction of decreasing. Then it is possible to draw conclusions about the results of the Bandera policy.
And when the teenagers from the Farionchik children's camps grow up, the numbers will drop altogether.

[New Year day]

Quote: Fungus

and together we will hammer the Bandera scum

So we will destroy some 20 million, will we unleash a civil war? If you remember history, how did the USSR defeated the Banderaites?

[Ros 56]

What do you think?

[New Year day]

Quote: Ros 56

What do you think?

But in no way. Soft power was wasted, and hard power is much weaker than under the Union. Yes, and with the motivation of the tension, Lenin and the achievements of the USSR laid bare, at the head of all the loot. And will the Ukrainians want to kill each other for the sake of the margin of Rotenberg and Kovalchuk and Co.?

[Ros 56]

I asked - how do you think the USSR defeated Bandera?

[Ros 56]

Judging by your pluses and minuses on VO the same picture. I'll clarify, my plus.

[Maikcg]

40% just want to devour, not panties and the EU, so they change their shoes in a jump.

[knn54]

-55% of the polled citizens of Ukraine said that Russian and Ukrainian are “different peoples”. 4% could not give a definite answer.
I am sure that many of these 55% are NOT SLAVS.
And the question can be posed as in the article "Russian and Ukrainian -" different peoples "?"

[stalki]

Half of the Ukrainians are for us. Not bad, not bad. In case of trouble, they will join us and together we will hammer Bandera's scum right up to the Polish border.

And if the poll were conducted by our sociologists, not Ukrainian ones. That result would not have been 50-50, but much more in favor of a single people.

[Svarog]

Of course, a lot has been missed ... over the years of capitalism and betrayal ... but it's good that there is more ... for certain work, the percentage will be higher ... and socialism would have rallied everyone.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Svarog

socialism would have brought everyone together.

Yes, as a bae, it was socialism that brought up from the former Russians and Maloros what now walks with torches and shouts "Moskalyakunagilyaku"

[Artyom Karagodin]

Yes, blaming Lenin for the notorious "time bomb" is stupidity, but the fact that the Bolsheviks began to indulge the idea that Ukrainians are a separate people cannot be called anything other than a mistake. True, this is only now becoming clear. Yes, and the Bolsheviks were indifferent to the idea of ​​national unity of Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians, since they are internationalists.

[Ros 56]

Remove the funding and I'll see how many idiots come out with torches.

[stalki]

Remove the funding and I'll see how many idiots come out with torches

And take into account that these idiots are a minority, the country is large and the people clearly do not favor them.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Fungus

Half of the Ukrainians are for us.

Quote: Svarog

Much is missing, of course ..

Yes, all ordinary citizens are without complexes. The hard workers have nothing to share.

I make nuts, and you
You make screws for the nut.
And everyone's work goes
Straight to the assembly shop.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: ROSS 42

The hard workers have nothing to share.

In 1941, our people also thought so and were very surprised why it was German hard workers with such enthusiasm to attack and slaughter communists and Jews.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Jacket in stock

In 1941, our people thought so too and were very surprised that these were German hard workers.

Throw you such comparisons. Only stupid people, imprisoned for natural needs, duped by propaganda, are able to act primitively. We still have those who are happy with the pension reform, minimum wages and average wages.
And there were the Germans who committed sabotage in production, because of which bombs and shells did not explode. Have you tried something like this yourself?
I will remain unconvinced. The common people did not want the collapse of the USSR, but they were not asked.

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And simple people they have nothing to hate. No Russians, no Belarusians, no Moldovans.
And you don't even need to conduct surveys - poverty is the same everywhere.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Can I, as a half-Ukrainian, half-Russian Soviet man, insert my "five kopecks"? Although I will run into the next "minus" in full ....
I was almost five years ago, and now I will repeat myself - ordinary people (workers, peasants, office workers) treat ordinary people (of the same class) warmly. Fine. Not only that ... They seem to even feel sorry for (and now they will pour in) us.
Because they understand that a worker from a Russian plant or factory is just as unfortunate as they are.
Who do they hate? Well, the very ... Spongers ... Propagandists like Kiselev and Solovyov and those who were found in the "northern wind".
And simple people they have nothing to hate. No Russians, no Belarusians, no Moldovans.
And you don't even need to conduct surveys - poverty is the same everywhere.

[Peak]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Who do they hate? Well, the very ... Spongers ... Propagandists like Kiselev and Solovyov and those who were found in the "northern wind".

But what's interesting , DO NOT hate their Bandera hangers-on Yanin Sokolovskikh, Gordonov, "Kiselevsky refugees - Babchenko" Shuster ...

Is it bad in Ukraine? So it's all Putin, Solovyov and Skobeeva are to blame. Hangers-on

And so I myself am not

[New Year day]

Quote: PiK

They DO NOT hate their Bandera hangers-on Yanin Sokolovsky, Gordonov, "Kiselevsky refugees - Babchenko" Shuster ...

Do you hate Solovyov, Popov and his wife and the like?

[Ros 56]

And as a half-Ukrainian and as a half-Russian he wrote such crap that in my opinion he did not understand a damn thing. Well, what does poverty and political division have to do with it?
You might think that presidents and governments are fighting among themselves with moneybags.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I wrote such crap that in my opinion I did not understand a damn thing.
Gold words! Judging by the opinion of the commentators, this also applies to you ...

[Ros 56]

You are all lying, it was you who were minus.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Jackals of the pack have not yet been canceled. And judging by the fact that the minuses have appeared today, then, apparently, writing crap are also compassionate complainers.

[Ros 56]

Are you the leader of this pack? The beaver is strong.

[Alex777]

and socialism would have united everyone.

Bad Santa.

[From Tomsk]

The point is that Putin's article is academic and rather boring. Any student who has learned how to handle sources could write this. Its essence is that it was not written by anyone, but by the whole president of the Russian Federation, and it will not work to dismiss it. He supported these sources with his authority.
In general, Zelenskiy is also trying to pull off the same maneuver. It is clear that the presidents of the Russian Federation and Ukraine are not comparable in authority, but still. The problem is that where Putin backed up historical facts with his authority, the “pianist without hands” will have to reinforce more or less delusional fabrications with his authority.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: From Tomsk

The point is that Putin's article is academic and rather boring.

His demonstration performances - to treat with understanding the pension reform - excludes the presence of sacred meaning in his articles.

[New Year day]

Quote: From Tomsk

Any student who has learned to deal with sources could write this.

This is exactly her level

[pyagomail.com]

An excursion into history: in 1922, in Rapallo (Italy), an agreement was signed between the USSR and Germany, which gave rise to multilateral economic cooperation. German engineers, equipment, technology helped the industrialization of the USSR. Hitler came to power in 1933 and for 8 years so brainwashed the Germans that in 1941 we became a "Russian Schweine". True, on May 10, 1945 it became clear that there were no fascists in Germany, but there were ordinary Germans deceived by Hitler’s propaganda ... 7 years old. So far, not all Ukrainians consider us "Schweine", but only 55%. Another year for brainwashing and "drang nach osten" to hang a red-black flag on the Spasskaya Tower? And after all (I will not say what) it turns out that there are no fascists in Ukraine, and they love Russia, is it bad Zelensky who deceived the people?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: pyagomail.ru

7 years have passed since the "revolution of guiding". So far, not all Ukrainians consider us "Schweine", but only 55%

If only they had been brainwashed for 7 years. It began more than 100 years ago, and even under Soviet rule did not stop.
Many people there considered us "Schweine" even before the collapse of the USSR, and even those who themselves were born and raised in other places, and then "came in large numbers" to Ukraine as adults. It turned out to be a very sticky infection, and very competent agitators.

[spirit]

Isn't it the same brainwashing with us? I have not watched TVTV for a long time, but sometimes, for the sake of interest, I turn on to see the mechanisms of state propaganda, sheer militarism and insults towards Ukraine, all this goes under a very nervous hysterical sauce (everything is like in textbooks on the psychology of management crowds) and there is not even close to any separation of conventional Bander and fascists from ordinary people, to whom this confrontation is up to the handle, everyone is driven under the same sauce. So our brainwashing is a reciprocal process and seems to be mutually beneficial.

[pyagomail.com]

Quote: spirit

And isn’t it just the same with us?

In our country, at least, it is more literate: they invite Ukrainians to talk shows, who speak such nonsense that the thought arises: "If it literate experts, then what is the level of intelligence of ordinary Ukrainians? the level of their mental development. ”On Ukrainian talk shows, there’s goofy propaganda, the participants try to outmaneuver each other in Russophobia, although I’m not opposed to being fed up with talk shows and VO about Ukraine less.

[New Year day]

Quote: pyagomail.ru

they invite Ukrainians to talk shows, who are talking such nonsense that the thought arises: "If these are competent experts, then what is the level of intelligence of ordinary Ukrainians?"

But why?

Quote: pyagomail.ru

On Ukrainian talk shows, there is idle propaganda, the participants are trying to outmaneuver each other in Russophobia.

Watch one of Skabeeva's shows, when Tolstoy said that Ukrainians should be hung, and Popov suggested that this desire of Tolstoy is supported by the majority of Russians

[pyagomail.com]

Quote: Silvestr

Ukrainians need to be hanged

I suspect taken out of context. Probably not Ukrainians, but Bandera's, and that this (hanging Ukrainians) is supported by the majority of Russians is nonsense.

[New Year day]

Quote: pyagomail.ru

I suspect taken out of context. Probably not Ukrainians, but Bandera's, and that this (hanging Ukrainians) is supported by the majority of Russians is nonsense.

Judging by the survey of Bandera, 55% of the population of Ukraine. About support - see for yourself

[Alex Justice]

I don’t believe Tolstoy could say that.

[Alex Justice]

Under Hitler, the economy revived, the people believed in Hitler and followed him. In Ukraine, the opposite is true.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

All this is a useless talking shop, both sides are already looking at each other through the sights of machine guns in Donbas.
And it will not end with grandchildren and great-grandchildren who started it.
Both sides are not ready to go through the carnage, but there are no volunteers to leave the world either.

[Corben]

Why comment on something? Western Ukraine is a completely different people. Central Ukraine is 50 to 50. But the eastern and southern ones are more Russian in terms of character, with a certain local flavor.

[New Year day]

Quote: Korben

But the eastern and southern ones are more Russian in their warehouse, with a certain local flavor.

Let it be known to you that in 2014 Zap. Ukraine formed 6 volunteers for the war with Donbass, and Eastern, Central and Southern Ukraine - 30.

[rocket757]

Even when "dripping on the brain" all nonsense, without measure, there is a process of rejection, because the surrounding reality always makes its own adjustments to everything and always.

[cniza]

Yes, they managed to thoroughly brainwash their brains, and plus there are some intimidated ...

[rocket757]

There is such a thing, BUT, empty space cannot remain so indefinitely! It is filled with all sorts of different things and the surrounding reality makes its own adjustments to this process ...
And around them they have no ice, there is either anger, at everyone and everything, or rejection of the one / those through whose fault this is happening.
This is how a person is made, wherever he is.

[cniza]

Yes, emptiness cannot exist for a long time, especially in human society ...

[Alex Justice]

The communists were brainwashed for 100 years, but within a month the people abandoned them.

[cniza]

It's very controversial, but you also need to be able to brainwash, and as they say - the bad sticks faster ...

[Knell wardenheart]

It seems to me that you should not immediately perceive it in the style of "ohoho, that's how many people are" for us "". Cultural or aesthetic unity does not yet imply a willingness to merge in extraterritorial ecstasy.
Ukrainians like to eat our cultural product (for now), but they would like to live as part of a single state - according to the RUSSIAN RULES, which imply increasing (including forceful and prohibitive) control over society - here I have a lot of skepticism.
It is also worth understanding that statistics do not indicate the degree of firmness of people's beliefs in anything - we do not see how many respondents would be ready to support the "Russian world" not on the couch, but that part of the Ukrainian society that is ready to support the "Ukrainian world" is clearly visible. on the front lines. I point out that the presence of a certain conviction and sentiment does not yet guarantee the stability and value of this trend - in Germany in 1918 there was also a mass of revolutionary socialist sentiments, but nothing came out.

[Astra55]

Well this is necessary, after 30 years of brainwashing, 40% still agree with Putin!
Yes, it's hard to defeat the Slavs, they thought in Washington.

[New Year day]

Quote: Astra55

after 30 years of brainwashing, 40% still agree with Putin!

Take a geographic slice of the respondents

[tralflot1832]

My icon is very old!

[Mwg]

"" 55% of the polled citizens of Ukraine said that Russian and Ukrainian are "different peoples." 4% could not give a definite answer. .... the largest number of those supporting the thesis of the President of Russia about the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples is among young people (under the age of 30) "- everything is correct: young people do not hesitate to answer, adults answer with an eye to the" party course ".
Otherwise, 95 percent definitely think Putin is right

[New Year day]

Quote: MVG

Otherwise, 95 percent definitely think Putin is right

Einstein is resting

[kind]

I don’t want to feed these "brothers" at the expense of my children anymore. Moreover, the Ukrainian and the traitor are synonymous words.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Good

I eat more that the Ukrainian and the traitor are synonyms.

I certainly apologize, but I have a question for you - are you de.il? Kozhedub, Kovpak ..... you understand just a troll, perhaps I will write a complaint about YOU as a defect inciting the nation

[kind]

And I'm writing about modern Ukrainians. And what kind of brothers are you, if those with whom I studied in Soviet times began to find fault with Russia and the USSR and me. Everything that the USSR gave them was taken for granted, and then they went to Chechnya, to fight against Russia, and they also erected the cult of Bandera. Do I respect them for that ??? Mankurt in one word. Kozhedub and Kovpak were primarily Soviet people.

[New Year day]

Quote: Good

And I'm writing about modern Ukrainians. And what kind of brothers are you, if those with whom I studied in Soviet times began to find fault with Russia and the USSR and me.

If he is campaigning for history, then give the name of the first Minister of Defense of Ukraine and his place of birth, then the name of the chairman of the Union of Officers of Ukraine. It is very interesting to hear your explanation after

[kind]

You can sprinkle saliva in different directions, I will not change my opinion.

[New Year day]

Quote: Good

You can sprinkle saliva in different directions, I will not change my opinion.

Intellectual!
First Defense Minister General Morozov, Russian, Chairman of the Officers' Union - Colonel Martirosyan - also Ukrainian

[kind]

Why do I need to know who the mankurt had a mine. defense? Apparently they have no one smarter. And there is still no Zelensky - Ukrainian ???! I say they are opportunists. I have no opinion. An external owner is needed, they cannot live without him.

[Shiden]

Glory you know, I read your comment and as a Ukrainian I will say bravo for 21 years you were made a Russian not a Russian, but a Russian. Only I did not understand but the LPR, DPR, Syria and others, you also refuse to feed or your children for a good cause in the name of The homeland can starve.

[garrett]

Slava you know, I read your comment and as a Ukrainian I will say bravo for 21 years you were made a Russian not a Russian, but a Russian

yes you are a twin brother with fame, both are stoned xenophobes

[Shiden]

Oleksiy, here you read the article, tell me the comments, you drew conclusions from the written. I think that no, they tell you that in Ukraine everyone (Bendera), that they are imprisoned for the Russian language, for the opposite opinion, too. But then they conducted a social survey and everything turned out not to be the way the propagandists tell you. And this is shocking as so (panheads) in your opinion have freedom of choice, opinion and right.

[garrett]

Hmm ... Vitaly, look how many minuses this Slava has - here's your answer. Sane people turn a finger at their temples to such statements and move on, but for some reason you started writing about a Russian (nationality) and a Russian (citizenship), trying to clumsily offend this glory. I’m both Russian and Russian, and I don’t think at all that

in Ukraine, everyone (Bendera) who is imprisoned for the Russian language, for the opposite opinion too

, that's why I wrote that you are of the same berry field only with different signs.

[Shiden]

Alexey, you read the comments under this article, I don’t see those who are sane, the comments are the same cliches, labels, or I’m wrong. But the most important thing is commented on by those who only hear about Ukraine on the zombie box. Here below Ivanov wrote comments, you think he is sane. Because you are the same as the majority of commentators, for you a different point of view is not acceptable and you put an equal sign. And you know why I give nationality and citizenship in the USSR, they also tried to make a Soviet person without a family and tribe, but so that he was devoted to ideals did not work out now they want to do the same on a smaller scale.

[garrett]

Because you are the same as most of the commentators, for you a different point of view is not acceptable and you put an equal sign

Vitaly, if you speak for me, which I do not even have in my mind, it is pointless to continue the discussion. I can speak for myself. So, as I wrote above, I do not think that

in Ukraine, everyone (Bendera) who is imprisoned for the Russian language is also for the opposite opinion.

I respect other people's opinions, even if I disagree with them.

And you know why I give nationality and citizenship in the USSR, they also tried to make a Soviet person without clan and tribe, but to be devoted to ideals did not work, now they want to do the same on a smaller scale.

I did not understand your idea. Was a Soviet man without clan and tribe? A very bold statement. Argument.

I don't see any sane

And you take a closer look

[DV tam 25]

Long ago you became the so-called. Ukrainian? Do you wear an embroidered shirt or do you confuse it with a blouse? I suppose they collected pennies for the soldiers of the world? Whoever feeds Russia is none of your business. You do not understand well - not news, most of the so-called. such Ukrainians.

[Alanart]

Maybe this is because a third of the population is Russian. And the part has a Russian 'half', that is, is married?
Just 33% of Russians are there. 2/3 of 33% is 22% of the population, where both spouses are ethnic Russians. And another 1/3 from 33% to 2, that is, the same 22% from 'mixed' families. Total 22 + 22 = 44%;))

[Normann]

Single and fraternal are different ... In Belarus, the majority considers the Russian Federation as an older brother on whom you can rely, but, at the same time, yourself as a separate nation.

[cniza]

Thus, according to the rating company (Ukraine), which conducted a public opinion survey, more than 40 percent of the Ukrainians surveyed agree with Putin's thesis about the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples.

I think there are quite a few people who were simply afraid to answer honestly ...

[Momento]

I wonder what this rating agency looks like about Poroshenko. at least the owner is kind of invited to Poroshenko's TV channel.

[Pavel73]

The author need not worry - he will. Derusification is in full swing. In ten years, today's Ukrainian children will not be able to perceive Russians as their own. And then there will be a real result - war.

[Ros 56]

You are wrong, the result will be after the war. And what, I think, any adequate person guesses.

[cosmonaut]

while the bourgeoisie is in power in Russia and Ukraine, there is no single people. Under the USSR, I not only considered myself one people with the Ukrainians, but also with the Armenians was one, with Uzbeks, Kazakhs. all my relatives were

[Ros 56]

Plus to everything, it is necessary to make an amendment that many are simply afraid to express their opinion because of the consequences that might come.

[Icarus]

Thus, according to the rating company (Ukraine), which conducted a public opinion survey, more than 40 percent of the Ukrainians surveyed agree with Putin's thesis about the unity of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples.

Negroes also consider themselves part of the American or English people, although not so long ago, by historical standards, they were slaves. In a successful country, everyone wants to feel part of the same community. Recently I watched Formula 1, so the victorious mulatto Hemilton, wrapped himself in the British flag, and the white attendants hugged him as if he were a family.
If Russia were a successful project for its citizens, I am sure that the percentage of a united people in Ukraine would be with us according to polls at least 60% -70%.

[iouris]

All these polls in Ukraine have no practical meaning. And so everything is clear.

[ada]

iouris (iouris)
All these polls in Ukraine have no practical meaning.

No, it has. Replicated polls of the population on topical issues with the results "a little there, a little here" are a technique worked out for years to aggravate and indicate the directions of the internal political struggle (in the style of "you are not finalizing comrades", "to strengthen work in the direction of .."). Nothing in the methodology has changed in 30 years (at least they would have changed something - no, it’s not worth it, and everything works like that) and the goal here is not Ukraine (they don’t care about the people there, an intermediate task), but take everything, but since at once (already tried three times) does not work, then it is possible in parts. Nobody on the ball needs the USSR2 except us (perhaps for this it is a matter of survival) - and for them it is a mortal threat, even its traces in RUSSIA and the former republics are stuck in their throats. And there they are not fools, the USSR forced them to strain so much that now they do not take their hand off the pulse. They have studied the factors of influence on the mood of the population very well, they form the basis of the strategy of constantly increasing pressure on us, including during the threatened period. Here the vector is then corrected, since the "comrades" are knocked out of the graph.

[White man]

Here is who will explain to me what it is: "brotherly nations"? As a single people with different dialects, habits, lifestyles, etc. Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians, I fully perceive. But "fraternal" means already different, and not one? I remember that Bulgarians, Poles, Chinese, Africans and many others were declared "fraternal" for us at different times. (a relic of internationalism?). And then, what's the difference fraternal or non-fraternal, one nation or different? Is there at least one country, even with a specifically single people, in which there were no bloody civil wars? And the Scots and the British, for example, if you ask them, how will they define themselves? What about French-speaking and English-speaking Canadians? And Vlasov's army in the Patriotic War? There are no worse enemies than relatives. Further. There are about 30 million adults in Ukraine (over 14 is not my classification). Even if we underestimate the results of the poll by half, we get 8-10 million people who consider Russia an enemy. Correct if where is not correct.

[iouris]

That's all right. To overthrow the government, it is enough to create an organizational structure of about 10 thousand motivated people. If the people are not liberated from this occupation (including consciousness), then Civil War-2 will be unleashed, after which there will be no Russian Federation, and therefore Ukraine. This is no longer about unity, but about survival.

[Alex Justice]

Serbia can be called a fraternal people. Ukraine is Russia, one people.

[Corben]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Korben

But the eastern and southern ones are more Russian in their warehouse, with a certain local flavor.

Let it be known to you that in 2014 Zap. Ukraine formed 6 volunteers for the war with Donbass, and Eastern, Central and Southern Ukraine - 30.

Sylvester, I don’t argue with the facts you have given. But in fact, everything is as I stated. It is far from a fact that half of the Russians living in Ukraine want to live in Russia. But they do not cease to be Russians by blood and genetic memory.

[Herman 4223]

Nobody read the article itself one hundred percent, but heard about it on TV or from popular bloachers on the Internet. And they heard only the necessary passages in the right context. They should drain the propaganda pot in which they cook, clean up the brains soiled by this propaganda, and I'm sure 90% will say that we are one people, and we have a common future!

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Herman 4223

Nobody read the article itself one hundred percent, but heard about it on TV or from popular bloachers on the Internet. And they heard only the necessary passages in the right context. They should drain the propaganda pot in which they cook, clean up the brains soiled by this propaganda, and I'm sure 90% will say that we are one people, and we have a common future!

Why do you think that they want to go to the future with us, and not with Europe? Do we have some special capitalists?

[Herman 4223]

You, too, will not hurt to clean.

[JD1979]

The Russian and Ukrainian peoples are not just fraternal peoples, they are one people.

Yes, yes))) Are there any Russian people?))) Gaspadin, President Putin has long looked into his passport?)))
Let him first return to people the right to be Russians, and not "daragim rassiyans" And then just talk about Russians, the Russian world and the country’s nation, especially before the elections, and where in the passport to write Russian? How many times did a proposal to return the nationality to the column fly through with plywood? How many incidents were there between the proud and small peoples of Russia and the Russians? And in how many of them did the authorities take the side of the Russians? Maybe for a start we need to make sure that the Russians in their country feel like a people that unites everyone and that they could feel pride and not Spanish shame. And only then talk about foreign policy and the common roots of the citizens of the three fragments of the once highly developed country-civilization.

[Herman 4223]

You live in Russia, it means Russian. This should be the rule. In the United States, for example, all Americans. And this is considered a nation.

[JD1979]

Quote: Herman 4223

You live in Russia, it means Russian. This should be the rule. In the United States, for example, all Americans. And this is considered a nation.

You are contradicting yourself in two phrases))) If in the US all Americans are, then in Russia all Russians are the same, and where can we cram the Russians? That would be Russia, then yes. And so ... "daragiya rassiyane" country cares about the rights of all small nations, except for the Russians.

[Herman 4223]

The rights of all ethnic groups should be the same. And yes, in Russia, everything is Ross, and there is no need to cram anyone here and anywhere. It only disconnects.

[JD1979]

Not having the right to have a nationality divides even more, and in fact small peoples have much more rights than the titular nation. Since they are small and enjoy the support of the state, and the Russians, there are many of you, somehow.

[Herman 4223]

On account of more rights, this is a moot point. For everyone, they are limited by the same laws. As for the support of the state, it is still necessary to understand what it is. After all, these are not increased pensions or scholarships. Not a freebie in the form of distributing money to the population. Educational institutions are funded where teaching is in the local language. And the local language enjoys the status of the second state language, but again on a limited territory of the republic or region. Maybe there is something else that I forgot?

[Tiger]

Could there be any other result? Still, it's obvious!
The question now is different - how long will the Ukrainian people endure and swallow such humiliation from the pro-Western authorities in Kiev that do not defend any truly Ukrainian interests at all? That is the question!
The whole world is already amazed at WHAT PATIENCE the citizens of Ukraine demonstrate towards their power ...