Crimeans "explained" the position of the IOC on the prohibition of Internet broadcasts of the Olympics on the peninsula

Residents of Crimea wondered why there are problems associated with the broadcast of the Olympic Games from Tokyo to the peninsula. The questions were addressed primarily to the leadership of Channel One. We are talking about the problems with Internet broadcasts that Russian channels receive from the direct official broadcaster, directly connected with the International Olympic Committee.

Konstantin Ernst, CEO of Channel One, commented on the situation. According to him, problems with broadcasts arise due to the fact that the IOC is responsible for blocking special broadcasts from the 2020 Olympics (2021) in "certain territories." In particular, Olympic Broadcasting Services geo-blocks special broadcasts on the Internet for the Crimean Peninsula.

At the same time, it was noted that Russian channels have the opportunity to broadcast the Games from Tokyo to the entire territory of Russia, including Crimea, in a television (not Internet) format, as well as in the form of so-called on-air broadcasts on their websites.

Thus, on the part of the copyright holder on the broadcast of the situation reaches the point of absurdity. Crimeans are trying to restrict access to sports competitions, which were originally conceived under the slogan "Oh sport, you are the world!" and were called to unite peoples and continents. Also, the IOC is actually violating its own "updated" Olympic motto, which recently sounds like this: "Faster, higher, stronger - together!" It turns out that not together ...

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[qQQQ]

Basically, I don’t look. Russia is not there, there is no one to root for.

[Atlant-1164]

He was friends with Hitler, took Nazi money, scolded critics of fascist ideology - do we have the right to judge the founder of the Olympic movement Pierre de Coubertin?

[Atlant-1164]

the French baron is famous for the fact that at the end of his years he actively collaborated with the Hitler regime. In particular, during the Winter and Summer Olympics of 1936, which were accompanied by terrible manifestations of racism, xenophobia and allowed the Nazi ideology to be promoted throughout the world.

[Atlant-1164]

in the pre-war IOC, there were a lot of people who sympathized with Hitler and his ideas. And not only in the IOC, but also among athletes. Nazi salute performed by representatives of different countries was a frequent occurrence during Olympic ceremonies long before the 1936 Olympics. This circumstance allowed Soviet propaganda to call the pre-war Olympic movement not only bourgeois, but also fascist.

[Volodin]

Quote: Atlant-1164

He was friends with Hitler, took Nazi money, scolded critics of fascist ideology - do we have the right to judge the founder of the Olympic movement Pierre de Coubertin?

Half of Europe was friends with Hitler. They then decided to seek adventure on the Eastern Front. So old de Coubertin is just one of many. But at least he proclaimed really good ideas during the revival of Olympism. And now the final farce ...

[Atlant-1164]

Coubertin with all his sports ideas found himself on the other, Hitler's, side of the barricades. In the constructive mood of the Germans, the baron was convinced by Hitler's readiness to finance many of Coubertin's ideas.

[Egoza]

Quote: Volodin

But at least he proclaimed really good ideas during the revival of Olympism. And now the final farce ...

Well yes! "The road to hell is paved with good intentions!" All the same, it is said very accurately. We see it in reality.

[SKVichyakow]

It's just that all their laws are written with pitchforks. They interpret and apply as they want.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Volodin

Half of Europe was friends with Hitler. They then decided to seek adventure on the Eastern Front.

All of Europe, or in unison together with the "guy from Braunau forward to the USSR, or a couple of countries" were silent in the hoe.

[nikon7717]

Unfortunately, the famous "Oh sport! You are the world" turns into politics, slogans are used not for unification, but for control. And I want the joy of sports! And, like 30 years ago, when the team of the former USSR was not under its own flag, today is deja vu ...

[knn54]

The Olympics FINALLY and IMMEDIATELY ceased to be a sport.

[Atlant-1164]

the Nazis put forward the idea to bring a torch with a burning Olympic flame from Athens itself to Berlin by relay race. Goebbels liked the idea, the Fuehrer approved. (This is how the tradition of the Olympic torch relay began.)

[Atlant-1164]

If earlier the opening and closing of the Games was limited to the passage of athletes along the stands of the stadium under their national flags, Goebbels planned to hold theatrical shows, which laid one more tradition.

[bk316]

The Olympics FINALLY and IMMEDIATELY ceased to be a sport.

Apparently you are very far from the sport Nikolay.
Otherwise they would not have written this about our athletes.
I admit that AROUND the Olympics there is a sea of ​​everything that is not related to sports.
Including disgusting.
But the sport itself hasn't gone anywhere either, look how our gymnasts fight.
You won't break like this for money or fear.
Actually, in order to understand how you can get over yourself like that, you just have to be an athlete, not necessarily an Olympic caliber ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

The Olympics FINALLY and IMMEDIATELY ceased to be a sport.

Western political show disguised as a sport. The union is gone and the sport is gone.

[Doliva63]

Well, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, alas, much has changed in the world, not for the better. Others are only now realizing what a powerful factor of stability on the planet the USSR was.

[SERGE ANT]

Quote: qqqq

Russia is not there

Quite right, there is no Flag or Anthem.

[bk316]

Absolutely.

I'm wondering. If Cantaria did not have the flag at hand, would not the Reichstag have to be stormed?
Well, this is a question for people like you.
In general, of course, it is worth recognizing that there is a sea of ​​everything around the Olympics that is not related to sports.
And it began not now, but almost immediately in the first half of the 20th century.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

If Cantaria did not have the flag at hand, would not the Reichstag have to be stormed?

No need to substitute concepts. Cantaria would never have thought of hoisting Polish, Czech, American or white flags over the Reichstag.

[Skarpzd]

about Cantaria is not necessary. he then (and not only, there were many units of the banner) was the banner.

[krops777]

I'm wondering. If Cantaria did not have the flag at hand, would not the Reichstag have to be stormed?

If there were no flag, he would have stormed all the same and would have laid down his life for it, knowing who is behind it and the party would have given the banner of victory in any case, but what can this EP? The anthem and the flag are an inalienable attribute of any country that respects itself, performing under a white rag is humiliation and surrender, so there is no need to shield "our" enterprising athletes who are not ready to suffer for their country, let alone sacrifice their lives.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: qqqq

Basically, I don’t look. Russia is not there, there is no one to root for.

Oh well? Gold of swordsmen, gymnasts, swimmers, taekwondo players do not need nafig?

[El Chuvachino]

Today the gymnast girls won. Clever girls, beauties! Everyone knows Tchaikovsky's music, everyone knows the colors of our flag and everyone knows who won. Particularly principled people can shove their adherence to principles and continue to sit on the couch, while our athletes under the most severe pressure and in difficult conditions continue to win awards without giving them to the foe.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: El Chuvachino

under the most severe pressure and in difficult conditions, they continue to win awards without giving them to an adversary.

The mice cried, injected themselves, but continued to eat the cactus. Likewise, we are pulling Nord Stream 2, out of spite, for a long time and expensive.
How does pride for the country fit into your optimism?

[El Chuvachino]

Let me remind you that the country is, first of all, our memory, history, our people, that is, people, and our achievements. Without all this, flags and a hymn are nothing: an empty sound and a rag. Not the other way around. So today at the Olympic Games there is our country, there are our people who make history and there are achievements that will remain in memory.

Your position is already clear to me, you don't have to explain it:

Goodbye, or better bye

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

You came to the war declared by the West of Russia with a white flag. In advance. You didn't even have the honor and conscience to admit publicly - yes, there was doping. Or not, but there are guilty ones, here they are. Instead, they pushed "May hard" to the promotion, Zhukov, hiding behind a girl, into the Dup .. Duma. Forward, Urya-potreoty! (Ugh on you ...) IMHO.

[El Chuvachino]

Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov

You didn't even have enough honor and conscience

Who do you have it? What the hell are you talking about spitting?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: El Chuvachino

What the hell are you talking about spitting?

Not nonsense, but fair emotions. I watched the rewarding of the swimmers - ugh, it would be honor and pride for the country - they would refuse medals at the awarding ceremony, with the voice acting of the reason. The whole country would idolize them. Consider this alternative.
P.S. Anyone who is interested in how pride and principles are manifested in sports, I advise you to watch the film "Rebel". A strong film in every sense.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Pilat2009

nafig do not need?

Who needs? Individuals who, not giving a damn about pride, went to satisfy their personal ambitions? Listen to Tchaikovsky? So you need to listen to him in the Philharmonic.

[bk316]

Who needs?

You need to scold the power everywhere, lord sovramshi.
If only you could tell our gymnasts to your face about pride and ambition, I would look at you.
However, what am I even here on VO anonymously afraid of, for example, admit that you lied.
Well, yes, I'll remind you.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

Well, yes, I'll remind you.

What to remind? That I grabbed all the shoals of power, and mentioned them in bulk, saying that you are all justifying them? And that there were a couple of those on the list that you didn't justify? Remind!

Quote: bk316

If only you could tell our gymnasts to your face about pride and ambition, I would look at you.

You know, I would say. Like many others.
And you continue to justify Ivanov, who do not remember their kinship. It's in your repertoire, shame on being an achievement.

[bk316]

What to remind?

Let me remind you that you slandered me, accusing me of supporting the import of palm oil into the country and the export of capital, and even expressed this support in VO.
And haven't bothered to apologize to me for their lies so far.
I understand that you are just cowardly.
You lied in many places, but then I caught you.
I gave you the opportunity to admit that you were wrong, if you suddenly made a mistake and did not lie.
You kept silent, it means you lied on purpose.
Once a person has lied, he will continue to lie, so about what they would say to the face, too, are lying.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

I remind you that you slandered me, accusing me of supporting the import of palm oil into the country and the export of capital and wrote about this on VO.

In response, I remind you that you generally support the current government, which is doing all these things. You can't be slightly pregnant.

[bk316]

You can't be slightly pregnant.

This is all blah blah blah, and you are a liar.
And until you apologize or do not admit it, I am not going to discuss the issues of support of the authorities or the opposition with anyone with you.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

I am not going to discuss the issues of support of the authorities or the opposition with anyone.

Then why did you get involved in the conversation?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Ingvar 72

you generally support the current government, which does all these things

You cannot support the power in parts. It must either be changed or tolerated. Well, maybe a good uncle will come and give everyone a sweet gingerbread. You just need to think about why in a country with oil and gas reserves, like in Saudi Arabia, the standard of living is lower by an order of magnitude. Why in Finland, not with minerals, the standard of living is higher? Like they do not make tanks, planes too, Maybe because they don’t poke their noses into Syria, Afghanistan and Ukraine? And don’t help Venezuela with Belarus loans? Maybe they don’t sell ships for palm oil?

[BIABIA]

Necessary! They show by their example that working hard in training can achieve results. Everyone knows perfectly well the athletes of which country win these medals. Looking at them, our boys and girls go to the sections, go in for sports. And there, you see, and under their flag and anthem, it is they who will become the new champions. And in general, those who are seriously involved in sports understand how hard it is, with blood and then these medals are given. Himself went in for sports, the son is a swimmer.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: BIABIA

And there, you see, and under their flag and anthem, it is they who will become the new champions.

I am afraid that only the grandchildren of these boys and girls will be able to sail under their Russian flag.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: tihonmarine

I am afraid that only the grandchildren of these boys and girls will be able to sail under their Russian flag.

Let's be honest, all this saga with the flag and anthem occurred due to the fact that the Russian anti-doping agency systematically failed to comply with international requirements with the tacit patronage of the state.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pilat2009

Let's be honest, all this saga with the flag and anthem occurred due to the fact that the Russian anti-doping agency systematically failed to comply with international requirements with the tacit patronage of the state.

Let's be honest, this is nonsense about the "anti-doping agency". This is only an excuse, if not for it, another pretext will be found, but until the end of this century nothing will change, even if you lick all the causal places to the west, nothing will change.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

"and they are the ones under their flag and anthem" - if they are allowed to, they will promise denyuzhek. And what about pride and responsibility for the State? - you ask. And what is it - they will answer ... (And they will be right).

[Alex_Bora]

Our athletes should not be responsible for the foolishness of our sports officials !!! There is no need for them to hand over their medals! They deserve them not because of them, but in spite of! They are doubly heroes!

[qQQQ]

Quote: BIABIA

And there, you see, and under their flag and anthem, it is they who will become the new champions.

Churchill also said that if you choose between war and shame, shame, you will get both war and shame. The same thing, we have chosen shame, and this will continue until we still resist. So, with our current policy, our country will not have its own flag and anthem for a long time to come.

[Skarpzd]

you said correctly. but THEM is gold. personally neither you nor the Russian Federation, it does not belong.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Pilat2009

Oh well? Gold of swordsmen, gymnasts, swimmers, taekwondo players do not need nafig?

This is gold personally for gymnasts, swimmers, etc. They are great and I am sincerely happy for them, but Russia is not represented there. Where, at least, what would say about our state? The Olympics are, first of all, politics, and in this vein, they spat in our faces as a state, and we wore off and said thank you.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: qqqq

They are great and I am sincerely glad for them

But you yourself said that you will not root for them. Sports and politics are two different things. If the state interferes in sports affairs in order to win more medals at any cost, even at the cost of the health of the athletes, and then starts playing like a naughty cat, the price of such a state is worthless.

[Terenin]

So I did not understand this Yopstra. Why didn't he provide broadcasting to Crimea? Do they have power in Russia?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Terenin

Do they have power in Russia?

There is no campaign, just as there is no one on Channel One, Megafon, Sberbank and many other companies. Including state ones.

[Terenin]

Quote: Ingvar 72

There is no campaign, just as there is no on Channel One, Megafon, Sberbank

Hike, recognize them as foreign agents.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Terenin

Hike, recognize them as foreign agents.

Yes, as an option.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Terenin

Do they have power in Russia?

So they are the power.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

Yoprast is in the caste. There is a similar one in India. Terribly conspiratorial. To join it, you have to eat shit. Yours. Further - darkness and a secret ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: qqqq

Basically, I don’t look. Russia is not there, there is no one to root for.

Likewise and in principle, I do not want to look at the farce and the Western show.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: qqqq

Basically, I don’t look. Russia is not there, there is no one to root for.

+, I don't watch either. Once upon a time that truly respected movement discredited itself many times and fell into the mud

[Achilles]

Quote: qqqq

Basically, I don’t look. Russia is not there, there is no one to root for.

Well, what should I call you after that? The athletes are not to blame for the fact that we have sports officials of various stripes, they are, first of all, athletes of Russia and fight for Russia, if they were banned from the anthem and the flag, and you agree with this, i.e. admitted that they are not anyone without a flag and an anthem, this is what the West sought, I personally root for our people and will always be sick and worried, and you yourself are not who. Russia is strong when united and indivisible, and you and others like you contribute to division.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Achilles

Well, what should I call you after that?

A normal, honest person. The same cannot be said about the justifying faceless Ivanov, who do not remember kinship. For it is also possible to justify betrayal for the sake of saving life.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Achilles

Well, what should I call you after that?

From what you call me, nothing will change. There is no need to prohibit athletes, they may well go there as private individuals, which, in principle, has now happened. And the state had to say unequivocally that since its attributes are not there, then as the country of Russia will not be there, with the refusal of funding. Sooner or later this will have to be done, no one will return anything to us just like that.

[Achilles]

Quote: qqqq

From what you call me, nothing will change. There is no need to prohibit athletes, they may well go there as private individuals, which, in principle, has now happened.

We went there as part of the Russian Olympic Committee, and not as individuals, and many write that our athletes went there as if as individuals.

Quote: qqqq

And the state had to say unequivocally that since its attributes are not there, then as the country of Russia will not be there, with the refusal of funding. Sooner or later, this will have to be done, no one will return anything to us just like that.

Now at this point in time it is no longer so important what the state should have done, now the Olympic Games have begun and our athletes have gone there and we need to support them and root for them, but many turn out to turn away from their citizens, and they are all citizens of the Russian Federation and it does not matter what they perform without a flag and anthem, they are citizens of the Russian Federation, which means we must support them, but many do not understand this.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Achilles

We went there as part of the Russian Olympic Committee

I think that no one there sees the representatives of Russia, they know, but they do not see.

Quote: Achilles

you need to support them and root for them, but many turn out to turn away from their citizens, and they are all citizens of the Russian Federation and it does not matter that they perform without a flag and anthem, they are citizens of the Russian Federation

I am sincerely worried about them and am sick of them, but the Olympiad is a political event and we as a state, to put it mildly, were bent over, I can’t pretend that nothing happened. As long as there is such a policy that we do not resist, we will continue to perform under the white flag.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: qqqq

they may well go there as individuals, which, in principle, has now happened

So what's the problem then? And the problem is that whole federations, athletics, and even there, and those who are beyond suspicion and have proven their purity are allowed to compete. It's just that someone in a high position decided to show that he is ahead of the rest of the world, After all, there is nothing more to be proud of except for large-scale events.

[zloybond]

The Olympics have generally turned into business and politics, I don't even watch.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: qqqq

Basically, I don’t look. Russia is not there, there is no one to root for.

Yes, also "on the drum", but ...
m. in the Crimea, who wants to watch live broadcasts.
Crimea - Russia?
1st channel - state?
So what ...?
Maybe already stupid and anti-state antics will be enough?

[Serg65]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

1st channel - state?
So what ...?

Can you read?

We are talking about problems with Internet broadcasts,
Russian channels have the opportunity to broadcast the Games from Tokyo to the entire territory of Russia, including Crimea, in a television (not Internet) format, as well as in the form of so-called on-air broadcasts on their websites

Or look at the book, feed the fig ????

[svp67]

Quote: qqqq

Russia is not there, there is no one to root for.

We have no prisoners, only traitors ...

[qQQQ]

Quote: svp67

We have no prisoners, only traitors ...

Nobody forbids athletes to go and participate. I understand them, this is their life and a way to earn money. But we are talking about the state, there are slightly different rules. As a country we were humiliated, but we pretended that everything was fine. There is an example of the 80 Olympics, when the West boycotted it, many athletes came there, despite the ban, but there was no state there.

[svp67]

Quote: qqqq

Nobody forbids athletes to go and participate

But some consider them "traitors" and I don't understand them ...

[qQQQ]

Quote: svp67

But some consider them "traitors" and I don't understand them ...

It is rather a message to the state that it has taken a cowardly, capitulating position.

[svp67]

Quote: qqqq

It is rather a message to the state that it has taken a cowardly, capitulating position.

Sorry, but these people specifically call athletes traitors, and not sports officials who passed everything and everyone ... therefore I do not support this position

[qQQQ]

Quote: svp67

but these people specifically call athletes traitors

Then this question should be addressed to these people, I have no complaints about the athletes, once again, this is their earnings. I do not understand (more precisely, I understand my own selfish interests of officials) and do not accept the position of the state.

[Doccor18]

It turns out that not together ...

It's been a long time already not "together", a long time ago, we remember the Olympics in Moscow ...

[Atlant-1164]

everything is declarative .. in fact, everything is false, double standards.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Although that's really! In 84 the USSR refused to take part in the games in Los Angeles in response to the boycott of Moscow 80
And none of the athletes whined that this was their life, career, etc.
And now it has already been politicized to such an extent, monetized, including by the heads of TV companies (hello to Ernst with his excuses), that there is no desire to watch.
Yes, and there is no sympathy for those who are ready to speak under the flag of an organization that fucks them in the tail and mane, it seems that if they are ordered to give a blowjob in order to participate in the next Olympic Games, they will immediately take a comfortable position and start howl: "Well, we have one chance!" ....

[Egoza]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

And none of the athletes whined that this was their life, career, etc.

So people had pride, and respected their country! And now they only think that this title will give them some preferences in the future.

[Ruslan Sulima]

So they did not stop in development, they won the World and European Championships, set records ...
Therefore, the excuses of the current ones look stupid, however, as well as the excuses of Ernst.

[Dangerous]

In sports, perhaps only the World Cup is quoted more than the Olympics. Well, tennis can still be. In other sports, the Olympics are the pinnacle of career and achievement. Give up your dream because those who were supposed to help and protect got into a puddle? Besides, here you are writing about the USSR84. It was the Union that refused to take part. And Russia? Yes, I agreed to all the conditions! Yes, they scolded these MOK members a little for decency, but agreed. Two countries, two solutions. So what do the athletes have to do with it?

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well, how can I explain to you.
Is every athlete ready to cave in for money, a career? I think there are many of those who went to Tokyo.
Does every athlete who went to Tokyo give a shit to their homeland? I think to many, first of all grandmothers.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

They won the World and European Championships, set records ...
Therefore, the excuses of the current ones look stupid, however, as well as the excuses of Ernst.

Athletes are athletes, but who does Ernst represent the power or his pocket?
If your own and / or corporate - so get out of the civil service!

[akropin]

If it's not a secret, tell us, what level of competition did you attend as a participant and what places did you occupy?

[tralflot1832]

Do not forget then held the Games of Goodwill, for the countries of the socialist camp. And you think just that Seoul was chosen in 1988. The OLYMPIC Games have long been intertwined with politics and it was not yesterday.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Yes, I remember that. Moscow 86, can I tell you who organized them?
The attitude of the athletes was different. We worked for a sporty result, not a monetary one. Therefore, in my opinion, such garbage is now, in the words of Lev Tolstoy, but in fact, a hell of a hillock who just wants bucks (not old women, of course) ..

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Yes, and there is no sympathy for those who are ready to act under the flag of an organization that fucks them in the tail and mane

You simply do not take into account that athletes will go to change their citizenship, for example, Ukraine or Uzbekistan.

[Ruslan Sulima]

So what to regret then? You know, I will say this, no one will regret Kokorin and others who imagined themselves to be irreplaceable, but with zero recoil.
But for those (well, this is from the field of utopia, I understand)) who are going to change citizenship on this wave, it is worth invoicing, because his rise was paid by mom-dad only in a small amount, the country invested in his (her) development)
Do you think young people are not stepping on the heels of the current stars, so to speak? That's who you need to think about

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Pilat2009

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Yes, and there is no sympathy for those who are ready to act under the flag of an organization that fucks them in the tail and mane

You simply do not take into account that athletes will go to change their citizenship, for example, Ukraine or Uzbekistan.

Let them go, neither warm nor cold. These athletes are needed to demonstrate the flag, if there is no such function, then there is no sense in them.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Vol4ara

These athletes are needed to demonstrate the flag, if there is no such function, then there is no sense in them.

Yes. And where is this demonstration?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Vol4ara

These athletes are needed to demonstrate the flag, if there is no such function, then there is no sense in them.

Yes. And where is this demonstration?

So she is gone

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Vol4ara

These athletes are needed to show the flag

Well, if, for example, a former Russian biathlete breaks Russia at the World Cup, will you have fun?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Pilat2009

Quote: Vol4ara

These athletes are needed to show the flag

Well, if, for example, a former Russian biathlete breaks Russia at the World Cup, will you have fun?

There is no Russia, but ROC - yes

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

including the heads of TV companies (hello to Ernst with his excuses) that there is no desire to watch.

Ernst could have refused to broadcast altogether. So the IOC would have lost how many dollars on this.

[Ruslan Sulima]

But for some reason, he first of all thought about how much he would lose himself)

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: tihonmarine

Ernst could have refused to broadcast altogether. So the IOC would have lost how many dollars on this.

1. Not Ernst but Russia.
2. Should we care about the loss of the IOC?
The IOC doesn’t take care of its bubble on its own.

[Ross xnumx]

I will express my own opinion. The name "Olympic Games" is exactly the same as "International tournament for the prize of the newspaper" Izvestia ". If it was privatized in order to humiliate the participants and infringe on the rights of the teams and the countries that delegated them, then why is it necessary?
Let Greece hold the summer games according to the same rules. Winter - can be defined between countries. The very composition of the IOC is an anachronism. Agree, if countries such as China, Russia and some others stop taking part in the Games, the games will turn into a planned farce.
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We don't need this kind of sport. Victory not by results, but by the amount of "dough"? Victory with cheating and phony diseases? I think, let the "sick" compete in the Paralympic Games (if they are not hammered with prostheses before the start).

[Astra55]

And how do you like it:

New Zealand transgender weightlifter Gavin (Laurel) Hubbard qualified for the Tokyo Olympics. It's just that it competes - in the women's league. Represents the New Zealand women's weightlifting team.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Astra55

And how do you like it:

Disgusting ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: Astra55

And how do you like it:

New Zealand transgender weightlifter Gavin (Laurel) Hubbard qualified for the Tokyo Olympics. It's just that it competes - in the women's league. Represents the New Zealand women's weightlifting team.

Moreover, he does not have an operation on genetics and never has. It's just that over the past year he took female hormones, which, according to the IOC rules, give him the right to be considered a woman and compete among women.
And the male genitals with him, as they were, remained with him - and his penis with the testicles in the scrotum is sculpturally protruding behind his panties ..
After the Olympic Games this "sportswoman" will again become a man for 3 years!

Let the liberal IOC force him to compete with the same sinewy sexual perverts like himself! But no !!!

And then a bearded woman Conchita Wurst immediately comes to mind - bearded singer from Austria at Eurovision 2015, which took 1st place among the liberals for her outrageousness.

Alexander Dugin: Every liberal is Conchita Wurst. May 12, 2015

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Astra55

New Zealand transgender weightlifter Gavin (Laurel) Hubbard qualified for the Tokyo Olympics. It's just that it competes - in the women's league. Represents the New Zealand women's weightlifting team.

It is necessary for the IOC to make a three-sex Olympiad, for men, women and for LGBT people, well, like toilets in Europe.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: tihonmarine

It is necessary for the IOC to make a three-sex Olympiad, for men, women and for LGBT people, well, like toilets in Europe.

Or give a choice: a medal or castration.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

Our girls pissed in the wrong jar - and the departure from the Olympic Games and disqualification are guaranteed. And what you show is not what you do not understand ...

[Astor 27]

And it's not so simple there (otherwise, a good half of the athletes would change their gender) ): it is necessary to be tested for the level of testosterone (well, like, I, in nature, already a woman) for a while ...

[tralflot1832]

By the way, today our girls have made "sick" American women in artistic gymnastics. And I have a suspicion that they perform better than with the flag before.

[bk316]

And I have a suspicion that they perform better than they did with the flag before.

You are right the last time they performed like this in 92 also without a flag.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: tralflot1832

By the way, today our girls have made "sick" American women in artistic gymnastics. And I have a suspicion that they perform better than with the flag before.

By the way, in terms of the number of medals, the USSR is ahead of everyone else (if it existed). This state of affairs made the Americans very angry. In addition, the state flag of the USSR acted on them like a mulet in the hands of a matador on a bull ...

[tralflot1832]

Yes, remember that professional sports in the USSR was well organized.

[Ros 56]

Yes, I don't give a damn about all these political troubles, our channels bought the opportunity to broadcast the OI. And where and to whom they will transmit their programs, to the Crimea or the Urals, or to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, this should not bother anyone at all, this is pure commerce.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Ros 56

Yes, I don't give a damn about all these political troubles, our channels bought the opportunity to broadcast the OI. And where and to whom they will transmit their programs, to the Crimea or the Urals, or to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, this should not bother anyone at all, this is pure commerce.

Private - yes, wherever they want, even in one wormhole.
State channels for state money - on the entire country!

[Tank jacket]

She died so died ... (about the Olympic movement)

[113262a]

But now it's a holiday! Sports on the rise In the Ukrainian city of Novomirgorod, a children's team called "The Hitlerites" took part in a street basketball competition during the City Day celebrations. Igor Nemirovsky, a native of Novomirgorod, ex-deputy head of the State Agricultural Inspection of Ukraine, drew attention to this on his Facebook page.
The first time he heard the judges announce the name of the team, the man decided that he had misheard.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 113262

The first time he heard the judges announce the name of the team, the man decided that he had misheard.

So we have heard for a long time "The soldiers of the Center Group are walking along the burnt plain a meter away, they are walking along Novomirgorodod ...."

[Moskovit]

I have always supported the USSR and Russian teams with their flags. And here is the ROC team, and even with a white flag. Let the citizens of this unknown country root for her.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Moskovit

I have always supported the USSR and Russian teams with their flags. And here is the ROC team, and even with a white flag. Let the citizens of this unknown country root for her.

Athletes are not to blame for this, to put it mildly ... I, for example, watched with interest Russian athletes in artistic gymnastics: "Nikita Nagorny, Artur Dalaloyan, David Belyavsky, Denis Ablyazin" - the guys accomplished a feat, took gold after 25 years .. so much work, so much effort, the guys put in that it is impossible not to respect them ... and our other athletes deserve respect, and not pouring mud (this is not specifically for you, but in general), otherwise it turns out that they have messed up sports top-level officials, ROC gave the go-ahead to hold competitions in this format, the government, together with the GDP, also gave its approval, and made athletes at the extreme, they say, you don't love the Motherland ... although the country sent them to the competition, whoever said what.

[Alexander X]

These are not Russian athletes, but in fact, athletes from Russia ... There is no Russian flag, no anthem ...
Well, and the feat of winning a medal, so there are many such "heroes" from other countries. Only they praise their country with their achievements, for they hear the flag and the national anthem in honor of their country standing on the podium. And athletes from Russia praise the IOC flag ... Yes, let them perform if they want, but for their own money ...
And it's time, it seems, to end the relationship with the IOC. They make a circus of freaks out of the Olympics, some sort of sodomy, but about asmatics runners and other athletes "with diseases", only children are not yet aware of ...

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Alexander X

And athletes from Russia praise the IOC flag ...

And who is to blame for this? After all, everyone perfectly understands whose athletes they are, where they came from and for what money they came to the Olympics, and they fight not only for themselves but for their relatives, friends, coaches, team, etc. and standing there on the podium for the award, obviously they want to hear not the music of Tchaikovsky and not the flag of the Russian Olympic Committee, but our flag and anthem but sanctions .... is there their fault here? no. And all this reasoning reaches the point of absurdity, when from Russian athletes who every year bring glory and victory to the country, at various international competitions they make almost traitors to the Motherland ... and when the sanctions are lifted, like you, you immediately recognize them as your own, So it turns out that, at the behest of some officials and ill-wishers, they themselves are drowning their athletes in the mud, for a place to support .... it's sad.

[Ruslan Sulima]

It is sad that they are ready to give up their homeland for the sake of their careers.
I hope that Russia will be able to nurture a new galaxy of champions for whom the honor of the country will not be an empty phrase.
By the way, will the head of the Olympic Committee, under Tchaikovsky, without a flag be given buns to the winners, prize-winners in the Kremlin?

[akropin]

You probably do not understand at all what this is about Athletes compete internationally. Athletes from Russia compete and defeat the world elite. The politicization of the Olympics is created by you and others like you. Watch, enjoy and exercise for yourself. Good luck!

[Ruslan Sulima]

Here I disagree!

You probably do not understand at all what this is about

Athletes performing under the flag of the Olympic Committee, listening at the victory of Tchaikovsky, looking at figs understand whose flag turns out to be in favor of Russia? You can also say that they are crying because they did not hear their native anthem and did not see the Russian banner ...
Or maybe crocodile tears are already enough ...

[Dangerous]

And what, some of the athletes from the Motherland refused? All the same, Western information technology is very cool! After all, they made it so that all the anger over the anthem / flag fell on the athletes, and not on the sports officials, who just could not do anything in defense of both athletes and national symbols.

[Ruslan Sulima]

How convenient it is to blame everything on officials. And he himself wants to get an apartment, a car, a cash bonus from the same officials. Why say no yourself!)
We came to the beginning of the conversation, athletes, like many officials, like Ernst (hello to him with explanations) deeply give a shit to the Motherland, the main thing is grandmothers (not old women, I think this is understandable))
Make someone from this chain a saint? I think this is wrong.
Sori, I'll add a little. Here is a direct and accurate answer to your question.

Pilat2009 (Mikhail)
Today, 16: 54

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Quote: Ruslan Sulima
Yes, and there is no sympathy for those who are ready to act under the flag of an organization that fucks them in the tail and mane

You simply do not take into account that athletes will go to change their citizenship, for example, Ukraine or Uzbekistan.

[Dangerous]

And what in your afterword answers my question? The fact that someone here made an assumption and that athletes will change their citizenship? Offhand - only Kuzmina (like) a biathlete who changed. I don’t believe it. And why shouldn't the officials be made extreme? After all, the whole gimmick with doping went from the 15-16th year like. Has anything been done to protect our athletes? No! They sat in a puddle with doping, could not justify themselves, even admitted (!) The fact of using prohibited substances. And in the end, as the quintessence of everything, they agreed to all these humiliating conditions at this Olympiad. So if at the very top they give the go-ahead, why should the Olympians, who have been professionally involved in sports from an early age, with the aim of becoming the best in their sport, refuse to participate?

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well ... you do not believe, I do not believe in the sincerity of your attempts ...
As a result, we came to the very beginning of the conversation ... I remain with my opinion.

[Dangerous]

Mutually. It was nice to have a discussion!

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Dangerous

I do not believe it

https://www.eg.ru/sport/590493-svoy-sredi-chujih-samye-izvestnye-sportsmeny-smenivshie-rossiyskoe-grajdanstvo-na-drugoe/

[Moskovit]

I understand your position, but I do not accept it. The USSR would not have gone to such humiliation, Russia caved in. Olympians too. Probably they will be greeted with joy in the capital of ROC.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Aleksandr21

... although the country sent them to the competition, whoever said what.

The country not only sent them to the competition, but simply "sent" them at the same time.
Thus, the country "sent" itself.
Where is pride ?!
Al loot of the nouveau riche above all?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Moskovit

And here is the ROC team, and even with a white flag.

We all know what a white flag is.

[16112014nk]

KE's hypocrisy knows no bounds. The interests of the Crimean people for him are in 25th place, as well as with Gref and his Sberbank. "Sberbank" also blocked the IOC? But what about the Constitution of the Russian Federation and where does its guarantor look?

[Ruslan Sulima]

Here, yes! And somehow he moves away from this topic.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: 16112014nk

But what about the Constitution of the Russian Federation and where does its guarantor look?

He looks in the same direction as Gref, but only he shines less.

[16112014nk]

Here's what smart people say about TV K.E. (Russia):

[geologist]

I am gradually getting used to it and will not be surprised at the Olympic rings on our combat vehicles.

[tralflot1832]

So Crimeans on Russian TV channels watch broadcasts from the Olympics enty, where Russian athletes participate.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: tralflot1832

So Crimeans on Russian TV channels watch broadcasts from the Olympics enty

Tellingly, the Crimean already have two medals. Vitalina Batsarashkina (warrant officer of the Russian Guard, for a minute) from Simferopol took gold and silver in pistol shooting.

[tralflot1832]

Well done, thanks! I did not focus on where she was from. Now I know.

[UVB]

Also, the IOC is actually violating its own "updated" Olympic motto, which recently sounds like this: "Faster, higher, stronger - together!"

Is it really not clear what was meant, who is with whom? They put normal people and all kinds of blue, pink and other evil spirits on the same level.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: UVB

They put normal people and all kinds of blue, pink and other evil spirits on the same level.

And at one time, as the West spread rot sisters Press, who had to leave the sport. The Press Sisters are Olympic champions whose sporting achievements are almost impossible to beat. There were many different gossips around them, but they did not pay attention and all their lives they just worked patiently. After Tamara and Irina Press refused to participate in the Olympics - and it was in the one at which gender verification was introduced - the rumor about brothers with this surname, which many thought were girls, began to spread. As you know, some Olympic doctor decided that they had sex reassignment surgery when the girls were still young.
And now they openly put men in women’s teams, and this is all legal.

[Utes]

Konstantin Ernst, General Director of Channel One, commented on the situation. According to him, problems with broadcasts arise due to the fact that the IOC is responsible for blocking special broadcasts.

Yes, cowards are sitting there in "our" media, everyone is looking back to the West and are afraid that their foreign accounts will be blocked .. Here are all the explanations ..

[bk316]

Yes, cowards are sitting there in "our" media

You do not understand, just on TV, they show everything.
The IOC has technically imposed restrictions on its net.
This is such a trick about Crimea.
For example, the same ZOOM does not work in Crimea.
Of course, it's easy to get around, they also understand this, but they still pretend to be blocking.

[Utes]

Quote: bk316

Yes, cowards are sitting there in "our" media

You do not understand, just on TV, they show everything.
The IOC has technically imposed restrictions on its net.
This is such a trick about Crimea.
For example, the same ZOOM does not work in Crimea.
Of course, it's easy to get around, they also understand this, but they still pretend to be blocking.

Got you! Actually, the Olympics, I have not watched for a long time how it all smacks of political games and money ... Especially when the wave of humiliation of Russia began and it was very arrogant, cynical ..
Earlier it was "Oh sport, you are the world .." Although there was also a policy, but it was healthier in terms of competition between the two world systems and they followed each other strictly ..

Quote: tihonmarine

The sport ended 30 years ago, now it is a show and entertainment, but not for everyone. Everything according to Orwell. Therefore, I do not watch these shows.

That's right Vlad .. Millionaires are running across the field .. Jumping jumping, some kind of intrigue constantly set up Ugh damn

[bk316]

.Millionaires are running across the field

Well, you do not row all athletes with the same brush
1. Firstly, not all are millionaires, and you shouldn't be jealous of other people's money
2. Secondly, the majority do not fight for money, believe me, if you go in for sports for money and the result will be just as you write.
3. And the fact that there is a lot of any liquid substance around is always in my memory. High performance sports are always politics and big money, and this is always dirt.

In general, sport is a separate world, everything is a little different there, not as seen from the outside. Even the same football, well, young guys are running, healthy, they get a lot of money and they all broken from head to toe, an ordinary person would have given up long ago. Or, for example, a person travels to competitions (my example) in prizes almost always, and if you count on a circle and sum up over the years - millions of losses.

[tihonmarine]

Also, the IOC is actually violating its own "updated" Olympic motto, which recently sounds like this: "Faster, higher, stronger - together!" It turns out that not together ...

The motto is the same - "Politics is everywhere, sport is not a sport, but a show from politics, and politics is determined by the owner of the White House."
The sport ended 30 years ago, now it is a show and entertainment, but not for everyone. Everything according to Orwell. Therefore, I do not watch these shows.

[akarfoxhound]

German Gref agrees with Ernst - not a single SB ATM in Crimea! Why is one better than the other?

[Utes]

Quote: akarfoxhound

German Gref agrees with Ernst - not a single SB ATM in Crimea! Why is one better than the other?

Yes ssat, no matter how their accounts abroad are sanctioned and their property arrested .. That's ALL!

[Vladimir61]

It is high time to decide on the creation of an alternative, non-political and impartial Olympic Committee, promoting the development of sport, peace and friendship. And not only Olympic. As soon as you meet the word "International ...", in the format of different organizations and committees, negative associations immediately arise with elementary political, national or economic selections.

[Dangerous]

Oh, how it turns out! To enroll all our Olympians as scoundrels, it's certainly cool! Well, maybe at least you are not like that? Hopefully in the morning you sing the anthem and raise the flag over the sofa? And you dress in the colors of the national flag that everyone saw - here he is, a true patriot coming!

[AB]

Because of 335 athletes, Russia is humiliated. The IOC, WADA, the Council of Europe with all the structures, Russia pays money to all of them, and in return receives spits and slaps from them. How long can you endure it, and even for your money?

[Doliva63]

Quote: bk316

Absolutely.

I'm wondering. If Cantaria did not have the flag at hand, would not the Reichstag have to be stormed?
Well, this is a question for people like you.
In general, of course, it is worth recognizing that there is a sea of ​​everything around the Olympics that is not related to sports.
And it began not now, but almost immediately in the first half of the 20th century.

And what does Kantaria have to do with the Russian Federation? But, apparently, this is not a question for people like you

[DED_peer_DED]

The Rotenbergs lived in a neighboring apartment next to the Putin.
Putin lived next to Rotenberg for as long as he could.
Rotenberg lived with Putin as long as he needed.
Putin could not live with Rotenberg, as long as he - Putin needed.
The question is - who needed to live next to Putin to become?

[Yuriy71]

Yours mine says - mine doesn't understand yours! Go, give the parcel to Navalny! Don't live!

[Roman070280]

And why do they run into the IOC ??
It is unlikely that they themselves established the rules .. At the international level, Crimea is not recognized as the territory of the Russian Federation, so if they resolve something, they will receive questions from the other side ..
Let them first deal with Sberbank in Crimea, and then point a finger at the IOC ..

[Yuriy71]

Not a big loss !!! Recently, and well-known events - to look at this action is not only disgusting, but in some places it is already disgusting (transgender people)! This phenomenon should soon "sink into oblivion"! And, it's a pity that Russia is taking part in this Sabbath! Both the country and the athletes lack pride !!! PS I am not the only one !!! Many have already put on a T. called the Olympic Games! Trend - people are no longer interested in this (except for relatives and friends of athletes),