And again - blacklists and gray banks

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It's your fault ...


The other day, a terrible news - commercial banks began to refuse service to structures that were included in a certain list of the Central Bank, which was immediately called "black". It was not worth expecting otherwise, although the Central Bank repeatedly repeated that the purely informational materials that appear on its network resource are not a guide to action.

However, a commercial bank does not need permission or prohibition from a regulator or even a court to simply refuse to serve a particular client. It is he - the client has the right to challenge the actions of the bank in court, but what can it give in the end?



Colleagues journalists have already accused the bankers, who hastened to “curry favor with the Central Bank,” of preventive punitive practice, but this is unlikely to change anything. This is not the first time we write about various kinds of blacklists (EU blacklist. There are few real violent?) and an unprecedented cleanup of the banking sector (What Financial Intelligence Doesn't Know?).

This policy was carried out with the light hand of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, or rather, directly by its employees. Moreover, not only through the revocation of licenses, but also through the refusal of one or another credit institution in the possibility of getting into completely different lists - the so-called authorized banks. And also - through reorganization and bankruptcy, which can be considered a direct consequence of not being among the “chosen ones”.

Today, getting into the black list of the Central Bank may be worse than the verdict. After all, this may well be followed by a refusal to issue a license and accounts, the closure of existing accounts in banks and payment systems, and finally, blocking of Internet sites, without which there is nowhere.

Further more - for example, refusal to accept payments in favor of companies from the black list, although so far payment systems do not do this yet. There is nothing to say about damage to reputation and lost profits. And this is only because banks "prefer not to work with persons and structures from the list."

Other lists, other numbers?


Do not think that everyone on the Central Bank's lists has quietly resigned themselves to the future. Complaints and demands to investigate went to the Bank of Russia immediately after publication. And the most surprising thing is that there are already losses in the black lists, and quite significant losses at that.

However, for those who regularly deal with the Central Bank, this is not news. For illustration purposes, let's look at the data of the Commission for Consideration of Complaints on the Central Bank's decisions on recognizing a person as not complying with the qualification requirements or requirements for business reputation.

This data, like the black list, is open and even very fresh - as of July 1 of the current 2021. In total, the commission during its work received 973 appeals from financiers who disagree with various decisions of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, most of which do not correspond with the June blacklist in any way.

But this is not important, we are interested in trends and statistics, which will almost certainly be similar in the case of the black list. Of the total number of complaints received, 690 were related to the activities of credit institutions. They concerned 159 banks and financial structures without a banking license, and 283 complaints related to the work of 77 non-credit financial institutions.

So, the commission in the end has already satisfied 449 complaints. Of 973, slightly less than half. This is data from a thematic review of the regulator itself - that is, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Agree, such surprisingly "soft" statistics cannot but confuse any sane person.

Here either the Central Bank a priori put almost all of its wards under suspicion, or the case is completely unclean. That is, those who are guilty, and now, as you can see, are being blacklisted, quickly "solve" their problems with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

It is hard to believe, excuse me, with difficulty that they really prove their innocence at once or quickly adjust all the necessary data indicating the purity of certain financial transactions.

And again - blacklists and gray banks

Announce not the entire list


A technical or informational list of companies with signs of illegal activity was published by the Central Bank on June 1. Initially, it consisted of 1800 structures, now their number already exceeds 2000. By no means all of them can be identified by a non-specialist by profile and type of activity.

According to Valery Lyakha, director of the department for countering unfair practices of the Central Bank, the first to be included in the list are “black creditors”, illegal forex dealers and financial pyramids.

On our own behalf, we add that the very place there is also for numerous microcredit organizations, which, as in the dashing 90s, take up to 10 percent a day (and this is 300 per month). In the outback, they grow like mushrooms after rain and just as quickly go nowhere. They only need to get at least a minimal plus, or safely "launder" the ordered amounts.

And this is despite all the countermeasures not only by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, but also by law enforcement agencies. However, law enforcement officers, in contrast to bankers who are now so actively "go into denials", act, as a rule, in the rearguard of the Bank of Russia, more precisely - usually at its filing.

But with the "filing" of the case, the situation is more complicated - for the initiation of criminal cases, grounds are needed that are stronger than a simple suspicion of illegal activity. In this regard, it is difficult to explain why the notorious list was posted on the website of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation openly. It's good at least that there are no comments, and this is, in fact, logical.

However, many immediately took it as a guide to action. And they began to act. Most likely, not as in the Russian proverb about someone who was forced to pray to God, but simply to avoid risk.

And really - is it worth, in general, to get involved with potential bankrupts or persons under investigation? But quite recently it might have seemed that the punitive practice of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation had come to naught. Firstly, because the “big clean-up” of the banking sector was completed several years ago and there is almost no one to clean up, and secondly, because of the pandemic.

But why did the games with lists - both black and white - coincide so surprisingly with the sharp tightening of the Central Bank's monetary policy? Tell me, how else to consider a XNUMX-fold increase in the key rate? Is there really another cleanup coming, and now not only of banks?
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  1. +5
    1 August 2021 15: 16
    Business is being driven to a new level of compliance with the law.

    On the one hand, that's what he is and the law, so that he would be observed. Otherwise, this is not a law, but some kind of rubbish.

    On the other hand, some structures are included in these lists for the same activity, while others are not. As always in Russia. And now this is already regrettable.
    1. +25
      1 August 2021 16: 35
      On the one hand, that's what he is and the law, so that he would be observed. Otherwise, this is not a law, but some kind of rubbish.

      The law is respected by the poor and who does not bring in .. and who does, the law is favorable to that. Here the problem is deeper .. some kind of naughty is being started and someone is trying to cut down a lot of dough .. Since I do not believe at all .. well, just in general, in the fact that we organize an order in this system, I am sure that there is some shock. But I don’t believe it, because I know how everything works from the inside .. and in order to really break the system, you need to execute everyone .. but in this system there are only their own .. well, in the regions there is still a trifle that is not their own ... but this is a drop in the sea..
      1. +4
        2 August 2021 07: 06
        After such news, the expression "like spiders in a bank" began to play in a completely new way. lol
      2. -5
        2 August 2021 09: 33
        Quote: Svarog
        to really break the system, you need to execute everyone.

        Are you a revolutionary? There is another way to change power without massacre and without sinking the country into the Stone Age, as a result of which there will be no Russia.
    2. +18
      1 August 2021 17: 15
      On the other hand, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is the most "muddy" and "closed" organization. Until now, the entire list of his beneficiaries and where and under what conditions he allegedly "stores" (does he store?) The gold reserves of Russia are still unknown. I remember Stepashka at one time stuck with an audit to check the reporting of this organization, so instantly he got into the tinsel and whimpering, crawled under the bed, lick his wounds ... Yes
  2. +16
    1 August 2021 15: 35
    The figures given in the article are impressive and terrifying at the same time. I would not like to try to open a serious business at the present time ...
    Well, but personally I am glad that I am on the "black list" of 10-15 commentators))) More, at the same time, it seems they are not minus. Which is what I wish for you)))
    1. +9
      1 August 2021 17: 37
      Well, but personally I am glad that I am on the "black list" of 10-15 commentators))) More, at the same time, it seems they are not minus.

      Better be glad that you are on the "white list" with twice as many who are adding to you. wink And on those ardent liberal-LGBT people - yes, shit and fall asleep with roses from above .. Stop it. negative
    2. +9
      1 August 2021 19: 14
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The figures given in the article are impressive and terrifying at the same time. I would not like to try to open a serious business at the present time ...
      Well, but personally I am glad that I am on the "black list" of 10-15 commentators))) More, at the same time, it seems they are not minus. Which is what I wish for you)))

      As soon as business becomes serious, racketeers will squeeze it out of power, I honestly don't understand how their greed spreads, they even take over retail. That is why all his adult life, if intuitively, if he deliberately slowed down the development of the business and did not climb into tempting proposals for unification. Now I have become a trifle, but in spite of everything I am still surviving.
      1. +10
        1 August 2021 19: 20
        Well, I, in general, have worked almost all my life "for my uncle."))) My wife stuttered several times:
        - Let's start our own business.
        I answered her:
        - Let's. Which?
        And then the stupor began - all more or less decent niches have been occupied for a long time.
        1. +8
          1 August 2021 19: 34
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And then the stupor began - all more or less decent niches have been occupied for a long time.

          Now, and even ten years ago, it was as if it was not worth twitching.
        2. 0
          2 August 2021 12: 00
          for example a bakery
    3. +2
      1 August 2021 23: 15
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The figures given in the article are impressive and terrifying at the same time. I would not like to try to open a serious business at the present time ...
      Well, but personally I am glad that I am on the "black list" of 10-15 commentators))) More, at the same time, it seems they are not minus. Which is what I wish for you)))

      Don't worry about the cons. Much worse is what is in reality.
  3. +11
    1 August 2021 15: 37
    - surprisingly coincided with the sharp tightening of the monetary policy of the Central Bank.
    The Central Bank responds to the devaluation of the ruble by raising interest rates.
    This leads to a "contraction" of investment, a decrease in competitiveness. The leveling of competition leads to a new devaluation. ruble
    Financial speculators who gamble on the yield of securities are only happy about this "cyclicality"
    And now the MAIN THING: One of the MOST IMPORTANT resources for the development of the economy - the population's savings - is being destroyed. The amount that people owe to banks is almost commensurate with the amount they keep in bank accounts. The population has ceased to be the creditor of economic development.
    And then we are surprised at the outflow of capital to offshore.
    1. +11
      1 August 2021 15: 52
      That's why he is the Central Bank, not the State Bank. In the state bank to rebuild this office and carry out a good cleaning for treason or stupidity.
    2. +17
      1 August 2021 16: 42
      Quote: knn54
      The population has ceased to be the creditor of economic development.

      Banks are supported by the state by injecting huge sums of money .. taxpayers' money .. banks multiply these amounts by taking their bribes from the population .. since 2014 it has become not interesting for banks to raise funds from the population .. which can be seen from the interest rate on deposits .. if before 2014 it was 18% .. now it is 4-5% .. Further, banks return loans from the state with a meager margin for the state .. and most of the money ("earned" on the population) goes to payments to shareholders, bonuses .. salary and is displayed under various "projects" over the hill .. where they are successfully mastered .. and the shareholders and top managers in the same savings, entirely from the camp of the "enemy" .. in general, a multi-move.
      1. +6
        1 August 2021 20: 42
        About Capital ...... Lenin V.I .. thump water in a mortar.
  4. +21
    1 August 2021 15: 38
    Thanks to the author for the raised topic!
    Often, the actions of the Central Bank resemble state terror.
    I personally came across this. I got off with an average fright.
    But you turn on the TV - "small business support, hurray, go ahead!"
    1. +10
      1 August 2021 17: 40
      "small business support, hurray, go ahead!"

      It has long been noticed that if they again talk about the type of support for small businesses, then they will again rob. belay
      1. +2
        1 August 2021 20: 59
        Quote: paul3390
        "small business support, hurray, go ahead!"

        It has long been noticed that if they again talk about the type of support for small businesses, then they will again rob. belay

        Read 248-fz - now it will be practically impossible to check you ... The law regulates checks much stricter than 294-fz
  5. -1
    1 August 2021 15: 49
    It would be necessary to wait for comments on the article, experts who are spinning in this area.
  6. +12
    1 August 2021 15: 52
    To cut the budget and squeeze out the market (or business)
    these are two directions of the economic policy of the Russian government. Well, the performers must be given to earn
  7. +6
    1 August 2021 16: 08
    the food supply for usurers (and not only) has decreased, so they are cleaning the clearing)))
    1. +13
      1 August 2021 17: 23
      Another curious thing is that economists (those who did not take short-term courses for Papuans at Yale and Columbia Universities) have long been saying that a single state "Development Bank" is needed where production would receive not interest-bearing loans, but interest-free loans. However, the "curls" chicks stand guard over the loan interest as a "guarantor" of the reproduction of the parasitic banking system.
      1. +7
        1 August 2021 17: 43
        where production would receive not interest-bearing loans, but interest-free loans.

        Yes, too, it is impossible - with new highly effective managers for a loan, they will immediately buy currency and it will be taken out of the cordon .. angry Money will not be invested in any production. crying
        1. +11
          1 August 2021 18: 09
          Yes? And who canceled the state control? After all, the loan is issued for a reason, but firstly, under "something", and secondly, in parts with the control of its expenditure. But the state gives loans to banks under the "air", focusing purely on the "wound" "rating" or on the "whisper" from the outside that they say "this should be given." Yes
          1. +2
            1 August 2021 18: 55
            And what? Share with whoever you want, that's all control. You might think this is a revelation ..

            While the loot has free circulation and conversion, they will steal and steal. There is only one way out - to return to the Soviet system of virtually dual currency. A non-cash ruble, which serves exclusively for mutual settlements of enterprises and cannot be cashed in principle, is much more difficult to steal.
            1. +1
              1 August 2021 21: 05
              Quote: paul3390
              return to the Soviet system of virtually dual currency. Non-cash ruble, which serves exclusively for mutual settlements of enterprises and cannot be cashed in principle, is much more difficult to steal

              It was quite easy to steal with cash - and there were many ways to do it. Starting from the banal "dead souls" and artists in the lobby of the Palace of Culture, and so on .... Postscripts .....
              Read the Soviet "Man and the Law" - you will learn a lot about the USSR ...
              For example, in the film "Eternal Call" only on the scene of the execution of old man Savely, 12 were stolen. The scene lasted only a few minutes ...
              1. +1
                1 August 2021 22: 32
                Come on - is this the amount ?? Yes - you can steal something, a penny, but not in billions!
                1. -1
                  1 August 2021 23: 43
                  Quote: paul3390
                  Come on - is this the amount ?? Yes - you can steal something, a penny, but not in billions!

                  Quote: paul3390
                  Come on - is this the amount ?? Yes - you can steal something, a penny, but not in billions!

                  Cotton business, forestry, Sovtransavtovoe, plunders at the bend of rivers yi, others, others, others ...
                  In our quiet area, the head of the State Bank, by sticking dates on salary sheets (caught in 1979), privatized 2 in 186 years ...
                  Then crazy money, but now, at any recalculations, it is much more than officials of its level usually steal today. Much bigger...
  8. 0
    1 August 2021 16: 12
    But why did the games with lists - both black and white - coincide so surprisingly with the sharp tightening of the Central Bank's monetary policy?
    ... If you look at the general global trends in this area ... so ours, it turns out, are crawling in the tail of those worldwide!
    Previously, it was necessary, BUT, at the same time it is more thorough to understand who, why and why ... there is no need to repeat the previous mistakes, when "the forest is being cut, the chips are flying" !!!
  9. +6
    1 August 2021 16: 13
    Quote: Captive
    That's why he is the Central Bank, not the State Bank. In the state bank to rebuild this office and carry out a good cleaning for treason or stupidity.

    no, the hydrant of the Constitution does not surrender his.
  10. -2
    1 August 2021 16: 21
    Blah, blah, blah ... No specific names, no names, no surnames, so .. Concussion
    1. +3
      1 August 2021 17: 04
      Have you ever found one signature of Hitler under the document "Solution of the Jewish Question", or in the documents of orders to the commanders of armies and corps on the destruction of the population of the USSR, signed by the Fuhrer? His signature was nowhere to be found, but there were signatures ranging from the captain to the majors. That everything is correct and the signature of the person who recognized this order as ready for execution. But it was not a shaking of the air, everything was done, and is being done.
  11. +13
    1 August 2021 16: 46
    But quite recently it might have seemed that the punitive practice of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation had come to naught. Firstly, because the “big clean-up” of the banking sector was completed several years ago and there is almost no one to clean up, and secondly, because of the pandemic.

    Tell me, dear Doctor of Economics why in the USSR it was:
    Until 1986, the banking system of the USSR included 4 components - Gosbank, Stroybank, Vneshtorgbank and State Labor Savings Banks. The perestroika reforms also affected the banking system. In June 1987, the Plenum of the CPSU Central Committee took place, which decided to improve it. In July 1987, the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Council of Ministers of the USSR adopted Resolution No. 821 "On improving the system of banks in the country and enhancing their impact on improving the efficiency of the economy."
    By this decree, a system of specialized banks was created in the following composition:
    State Bank of the USSR (State Bank of the USSR);
    Bank for Foreign Economic Affairs of the USSR (Vnesheconombank of the USSR);
    Industrial and Construction Bank of the USSR (Promstroybank of the USSR);
    Agroindustrial Bank of the USSR (Agroprombank of the USSR);
    Bank for Housing and Communal Services and Social Development of the USSR (Zhilsotsbank of the USSR);
    Bank of Labor Savings and Lending to the Population of the USSR (Savings Bank of the USSR).

    And why should we welcome legalized speculation in the banking sector?
    In 1988, 41 commercial and cooperative banks were registered in the USSR, including 25 banks on the territory of the RSFSR. By January 1, 1990, the statutes of 225 commercial and cooperative banks were registered, including 1989 in 184.

    As of February 01, 2021, 365 commercial banks operate in Russia. Thus, the answer to the question of how many banks remained in Russia is disappointing: by today there are already less than 400. In 2020, the banking system of the Russian Federation has decreased by 36 banks, in 2019 - by 38 banks, in 2018 - by 77 banks ...

    Why do we need banks, under which offices continue to exist: "Bystrodengi", and production capacity is not growing?
    1. +11
      1 August 2021 17: 45
      production capacity is not growing?

      Because in our enlightened time money is made out of thin air, and not at all from the production of goods .. Industry for banksters is the century before last, unnecessary hemorrhoids, and nothing more ..
    2. +13
      1 August 2021 17: 46
      Oh, those banks. Everyone did not notice that banks from "offices" for the convenience of clients were transformed into an institution of control and "coercion" of the population, controlled by either the state or the world government. Judge for yourself, at the dawn of creation, banks served for the convenience or storage of the client's money or for settlements between clients so as not to carry money with them, receiving a reward for this. Moreover, no one forced the client to carry money to the bank - he did it as needed, for convenience. Then banks began to help accumulate large amounts in order to lend them large transactions, receiving interest for this, and to accumulate the necessary amounts, banks were forced to attract customers with deposits with an increased interest on the deposit. What do we have now? And now banks have become an instrument of coercion, which, moreover, does not bring income to citizens, but also plunders them by colluding with the state, which for this in every possible way restricts citizens in the possession of cash, and in the long run wants to remove "cash" altogether. That is, everyone must understand a simple truth: the modern state and banks are two bandits who act together, pretending "in public" that they, they say, do not know each other, but in fact act according to the principle: "hand-hand warms up "..
  12. +1
    1 August 2021 16: 52
    Well. Fascist regimes all over the world, and wake up the whole people to nightmare. Hello NWO.
    1. +1
      1 August 2021 18: 04
      Quote: Hypatius
      Well. Fascist regimes all over the world, and wake up the whole people to nightmare. Hello NWO.

      Hypatiy, please, tell me what is the NWO? And then I only know CWP and NEP ... feel
      1. -2
        1 August 2021 18: 54
        Of course, comrade. NWO is socialism when everything is taken away
  13. +2
    1 August 2021 16: 58
    Feudalism in action. The hostility of feudalism to the people of Russia.
  14. +3
    1 August 2021 17: 09
    "... why are you hovering over me?
    Do you tea for yourself?
    Blacklist - I'm not yours! "
    (Song of the top manager of the 25th division of the Red Army Vasily Ch. And senior manager Dm.F.)
    1. +2
      1 August 2021 18: 11
      Quote: faterdom
      "... why are you hovering over me?
      Do you tea for yourself?
      Blacklist - I'm not yours! "
      (Song of the top manager of the 25th division of the Red Army Vasily Ch. And senior manager Dm.F.)

      And in the film I'm much longer! wink
  15. +5
    1 August 2021 17: 20
    The question is not a topic, but I just do not know where there is a place for such questions. What do + and -, or rather -, affect? If the rating is driven into negative by minuses, then after that they will come and take the cow? smile
    1. +3
      1 August 2021 17: 57
      "+" give points by the number of which fake "military ranks" are awarded. "-" points are taken away and, consequently, with a drop in the number of points, the "rank" also decreases. If you do not have a "title", then you are purple. Previously, if I went to the "minus", then very beautiful (in my opinion) black shoulder straps with a skull and crossed bones were hung (seeing such shoulder straps, for some reason I always had an association with the Kappelevites from "Chapaev"). Yes Now they have been removed, in my opinion, in vain. And so, as far as I understand, if they mold you cons and you have been without a "rank" for a long time, then it is at the discretion of the moderator: if he considers from your comments that you are a "troll" or "bot", he will delete your account Yes
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    2. +7
      1 August 2021 17: 59
      Quote: V is for B
      If the rating is driven into negative by minuses, then after that they will come and take the cow?

      Don't bother too much. Cons are akin to photographs of ballots with "check marks" in the required line. And the pluses reflect love and devotion to a certain group of like-minded people.
      There are "Rules" down there. To break them is to be “out of the game”.
      Most importantly, do not use foul language, do not offend people with shameful words and write from the heart. This immediately becomes noticeable, and people will be drawn to you ...
      hi
      1. +1
        3 August 2021 12: 12
        Thanks for the reply.
      2. 0
        3 August 2021 12: 26
        It will not work from the heart, because you can't use foul language.)
    3. +3
      1 August 2021 18: 13
      No, just the udder! laughing
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  16. +2
    1 August 2021 18: 14
    Based on the past, pyramid schemes are a terribly bad omen. All of this is leading to a colossal financial crisis.
  17. +6
    1 August 2021 18: 57
    ... In total, the commission during its work received 973 appeals from financiers who disagree with various decisions of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation

    As a result, the commission has already satisfied 449 complaints. Of 973, slightly less than half.

    Such statistics may indicate either the incompetence of the decisions made, or the fact that the issues are "solved" in a shady way.
    Or both together.
    In general, it looks like a diagnosis to a system that cancels complaints in half of the cases
  18. +6
    1 August 2021 19: 15
    Quote: Snail N9
    ... now banks have become an instrument of coercion,
    which, moreover, does not bring income to citizens, it also robs them by colluding with the state

    I agree, an example is the Grefovsky sperbank, which is going to appropriate the functions of the state, from the issuance of passports (ideally, digital devices) to the scrapping of the remains of state education.
    task number 1 - the abolition of cash, which implies complete control over the savings of citizens.
  19. 0
    1 August 2021 19: 38
    I hope the RNKB has passed the Sia Cup ?!
    Otherwise, we're finished ...
  20. +2
    1 August 2021 19: 47
    Burn your business in Hell.
    Someone's basic / correct Russians are driving around with Master cards.
    Today I looked.
    It even became insulting.
    And our brother? Didn't come out with a snout? ...
  21. +6
    1 August 2021 20: 13
    In 2008, our dear Central Bank arranged a crisis for us in one hand. With a slight mania of the hand, raising the rate, the Central Bank knocked out hundreds of thousands of organizations and millions of projects throughout the country from financing. I remember how I traveled from customer to customer under already concluded contracts and heard everywhere - banks withdrew loans, we are not getting into profitability ... Well, that is, there was a crisis all over the world, and Russia was growing. Of course, Elvira Sakhipzadovna did not tolerate this!
    It seems that our beloved Central Bank again received the order to arrange the Big Boom. Again there will be nothing to eat ...
    1. 0
      1 August 2021 21: 16
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Of course, Elvira Sakhipzadovna did not tolerate this!

      In 2007, about 4 000 wagons in transit through the RF with fertilizers.
      In 2009 passed 12 (!!!!) ... Basically, he sent it under old contracts .. That's it ...
      And only by the middle of 2010 the number of cars began to grow ...
      If this is not an indicator World crisis including the CIS - what?
      1. +4
        2 August 2021 08: 40
        It’s very simple. RF is one of the world's largest fertilizer producers) Suddenly. And to drive fertilizers in transit through Russia, which are several times cheaper to buy on the spot, is idiocy. Which is not typical of accountants (you don't need to be a businessman for this calculation). So this very "transit" was the purchase of fertilizers from us, which were registered through foreign firms. It's an ordinary matter.
        Then we go in our funny educational program. People mainly trade and produce with borrowed funds. When dear Elechka almost doubled the cost of lending, the lines of credit fell off, loans fell - people lost the ability to repay loans, because their service began to cost more profit. Production stopped. Elechka's American owners smiled approvingly, and gave her another title of "the best head of the Central Bank." Still would! Who so dashingly organizes the crisis in their country, except for the best?
        1. -1
          2 August 2021 09: 33
          Quote: Mikhail3
          So this very "transit" was the purchase of fertilizers from us, which were registered through foreign firms. It's an ordinary matter.

          I gave an example PRESENT transit through the RF. When fertilizers manufactured в other country went via RF in another country ..
          Fertilizers by production - NOT RF and RB,
          And yours
          Quote: Mikhail3
          - idiocy

          in this case, out of place - traders were selling their goods - NOT Russian, to its partners
          1. +1
            2 August 2021 12: 36
            Funny to read. Real transit? Where does this strange confidence come from? Who produces fertilizers in such a way that it is more profitable to drive them through us than to buy them here? You seem to be based on the information of the railway? Hehe ... A convenient channel for money laundering, combined with the almost legal "earnings" of some railway workers. Provide people with documents that the transit was. Return them some of the money that they allegedly transfer in payment. To distill other cargoes in these wagons at full price ...
            And the second question. Did I say something about the global crisis? Did I say he was not there? He still was! There was a purely financial storm that hit from the United States. But this had nothing to do with Russia, everything worked for us, and fleeing capital flowed to us. If it were not for the owners of Mrs. Nabiullina, and her timely actions, our economy would make a powerful leap, and would not get stuck in a crisis. Despite the fact who drove the cars where and what loaded them)
            1. 0
              2 August 2021 12: 53
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Funny to read. Real transit? Where does this strange confidence come from? Who produces fertilizers in such a way that it is more profitable to drive them through us than to buy them here? You seem to be based on the information of the railway? Hehe ... A convenient channel for money laundering, combined with the almost legal "earnings" of some railway workers. Provide people with documents that the transit was. Return them some of the money that they allegedly transfer in payment. To distill other cargoes in these wagons at full price ...

              I'm so in the know POSSIBLE fraud ... 12 years of customs ... lol
              No, your assumptions are a finger to the sky. And this is 100% ..

              .
              Quote: Mikhail3
              But this had nothing to do with Russia, everything worked for us, and fleeing capital flowed to us.
              - the volume of cargo transportation by rail in 2009 fell 11 times during transit and 8 times when imported into the Russian Federation, I don’t remember exactly export, but it fell by about 5 times.
              A similar garbage was in 1992 (but here ours is purely CIS) and in 1998.
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                2 August 2021 13: 24
                I still don't understand what you mean. There was a crisis in the world. We have suffered, in part, exporters. So what? All the same, this was not a reason for the whole country to plunge into the city into which it flew in a big way. And if I am directly 100% wrong (opupet), then what is it - there were NO shenanigans ?! Or are they tiny percentages? Or, in general, you are able to separate fraud from real traffic? WHO ARE YOU AT ALL ?! Neither the head of customs, nor the minister, nor the president can do this! Am I talking to God ?!
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                  2 August 2021 13: 40
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  Am I talking to God ?!

                  usual daily senior customs inspector job lol lol
                  A trifle but pleasant - which is cooler than ministers and presidents

                  We have suffered ALL - both exporters and importers. Moreover, even during transit, Russian Railways suffered - and this is also money and not sickly ...
                  What does it mean for an exporter not to take out the goods - he will not receive currency for the goods, zero VAT, and so on for little things. He will not be able to buy goods and services from the importer due to the lack of currency. And the importer, in turn, will not be able to import anything due to the lack of currency at himself and at the exporter. The population who, because of this, will not pay their wages, or even get kicked in the ass - will finish off the importer by the lack of mass demand ...
                  I watched 3 border stations in 2009 - the emptiness was indecent ...
                  And in 2007 all the stations were jam-packed - ours barely had time to check the documents.
                  I agree the explanation is primitive - but it surprisingly works
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                    2 August 2021 17: 31
                    What are you talking about? Well, yes, the flow of goods across the border in 8-9 years died out. So what? What does this have to do with the crisis in our country? You are somewhere in your world ...
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                      3 August 2021 07: 27
                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      What does this have to do with the crisis in our country?

                      А in your world - when the exporter of goods does not send his goods for export due to the fact that they do not buy it abroad - this is probably "just some kind of holiday !!!!!" (c) for him ????
                      That foreign fertilizer producer cut its workers by 60% at once.
                      We had a similar garbage.
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                        3 August 2021 09: 03
                        Crap. You wrote to me that the foreigners had problems. I wrote that foreigners had problems. We didn't, or rather they were ten times weaker. You began to deny that our problems were less so that foreigners had more problems. You do not see how much this is all with you, how censorship it would be ... illogical?)
                        To put it simply, you are heresy that has nothing to do with the topic I have raised. Due to the fact that your analytical abilities are close to zero, and you cannot even keep the topic in the focus of your thinking, floating away, your conclusions and observations have a rather low level of reliability.
                        I'm sorry.
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    1 August 2021 21: 20
    Another incoherent article on VO from Doctor of Economics Alexey Podymov, Anatoly Ivanov. I didn't understand which of them is Dan and who is not, but okay. In general, what is this opus about? Microcredit organizations blocked access to state. financing? Byada-byada ... And then he leaked a bunch of comments a la putin, small business spread rot, the FSE was gone ... Guys, I, of course, am far from deifying the economic policy of our government, but at least do not disgrace yourself before comment on this hellish nonsense with references to themselves, at least figure out the essence of the issue.
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    2 August 2021 00: 24
    Again, an article from a completely different opera. What cherub is this being published here? What does this crap have to do with military topics? There are other resources for this with a corresponding profile. Author huge fat minus
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      2 August 2021 08: 43
      The article is very coherent, and is published with a clear purpose. We need to tell you what a useful Central Bank we have, and it does not destroy our economy, trying to slow down in every possible way, and ideally destroy it altogether, but does useful things! Maybe even saints! Fights microcredits! Are you unhappy with something))

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