The course and prospects for the development of fighter FX (Japan)

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The course and prospects for the development of fighter FX (Japan)

The only image of the FX plane. Perhaps a real fighter will look different

Japan plans to create its own next-generation fighter FX, which will replace some of the existing technology in the future. Design work started at the end of last year, and the first flight is still a long way off. In addition, the real prospects of the project are still in question. However, it is already known what the customer wants in the person of the Air Self-Defense Forces (VSS), and what the new aircraft may be like.

Organizational matters


The military and political leadership of Japan made a fundamental decision to create its own 5th generation fighter in the middle of the 22s. Then the United States refused to export the latest F-XNUMX aircraft, and the Japanese military insisted on the need to develop a similar machine. Soon, relevant research and experiments began.



For several years, the necessary research was carried out, after which Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) developed and built an X-2 prototype aircraft. Flight tests of this machine took place in 2016-18. and showed the need to restart the entire program. The developments on the X-2, with all their advantages, did not allow the creation of an aircraft capable of serving for the next several decades.

The FX program was relaunched in 2018.BCC received several applications from Japanese and foreign companies and then selected a contractor. In the same year, it was announced that the leading role in the project would remain with Japanese organizations, incl. MHI. At the same time, it was planned to attract foreign companies with the necessary development experience aviation technology and its components.


F-2 - a promising FX is being created to replace such aircraft

In November 2020, MHI received an official order from BCC Japan for design work, followed by the construction of experimental equipment and the launch of serial production. Under the terms of the agreement, production aircraft will begin to enter the troops by the mid-thirties. The cost of the program is estimated at 1,4 trillion yen (about 12,75 billion US dollars). The price of a serial aircraft will be in the range of 20-30 billion yen (180-270 million dollars).

The main work on FX will be performed by the Japanese MHI, which will interact with local and foreign subcontractors. Earlier it was reported that the American company Lockheed Martin, which has extensive experience in the field of stealth technology, may be involved in the development of an unobtrusive airframe. In early July appeared news on the development of a promising engine by the Japanese IHI Corp. and British Rolls-Royce. Joint work on other components is also expected.

Customer needs


Over the past several years, the Japanese Ministry of Defense has repeatedly announced certain wishes for the future of FX. In addition, the alleged appearance of the aircraft was shown last year. Whether all of this data will correspond to a real fighter of the future is unclear. As the project is developed, both the general appearance and the customer's requirements may change.

The only available FX image shows an integrated circuit aircraft with a pointed nose, swept wing with advanced sagging and two-plane tail. The power plant includes two not yet developed engines; the air intakes are placed under the wing overhangs. A cargo compartment for a combat load will be placed inside the glider.


The aerodynamic appearance and external contours of the aircraft are determined taking into account the achievement of supersonic flight speeds, high maneuverability for close combat and a reduction in radar signature. However, the exact characteristics of this kind are not named.

In 2019, the IHI corporation first published data on the promising XF9-1 turbojet engine. At that time, the estimated maximum thrust reached 11 thousand kgf, afterburner - 15 thousand kgf. The FX should have two of these engines, which will give it high performance. In this case, the parameters of the engines allow you to determine the approximate weight of the aircraft, because weight characteristics have not yet been announced.

Especially for FX, MHI is developing a promising radar with AFAR. Also, the aircraft will receive a developed sighting and navigation system with the ability to integrate various systems and sensors. The PRNK will have to collect and process all information from the aircraft systems and from external sources. High requirements are imposed on the ability to detect air targets, because the FX fighter will face off against stealthy foreign aircraft.

It was repeatedly mentioned that network capabilities are one of the key innovations of the project and will largely determine the combat qualities of the aircraft. The FX fighter will have to interact with ground and air command posts, exchange data with other aircraft, etc. In the future, it is planned to create new types of tactical UAVs of medium and heavy class, which will be able to interact with manned aircraft. In such a system, it will be the FX that will be responsible for the management.

It was reported about the possibility of creating a single and two-seat version of the fighter. The cockpit equipment will be built using LCD screens; it is possible to use full-fledged "augmented reality" helmet-mounted displays. The developed automated PrNK will take on some of the tasks and relieve the crew. The possibility of converting a manned FX into a heavy UAV with broad combat capabilities is being considered. Aircraft with and without a crew will operate in the same flight.


One of the first American-made F-35A delivered to Japan.

The range of compatible weapons has not been disclosed. Apparently, FX will be able to carry modern and advanced weapons to combat air and ground / surface targets. Some of the weapons will be transported in the inner compartment to reduce visibility. The requirements for the creation of an electronic warfare complex and an airborne defense complex were mentioned. With the help of interference, electromagnetic and infrared radiation, they will protect the aircraft from being detected or hit by missiles.

Plans and problems


According to current plans, the coming years will be spent on the remaining research, project development and testing of individual solutions. In 2024-25. MHI is to begin construction of the first prototype. Flight tests will begin no later than 2028, and they will last for the next several years. In parallel, preparation for serial production will be carried out.

The first production FX are planned to be transferred to the Air Force of Japan by 2035. They are considered as a promising replacement for the existing F-2. The latter, due to repairs and modernizations, will remain in service for the time being, but in the mid-thirties they will begin to be written off due to moral and physical obsolescence.

It is not known whether it will be possible to meet such a schedule. Japan has some experience in the construction and modernization of modern aircraft, and in addition, can count on foreign assistance. This is conducive to optimism and allows ARIA to hope for the timely completion of the necessary work. At the same time, we are talking about a new generation aircraft based on a number of modern and promising technologies. Developing such a machine, even with the help of developed countries, will not be easy.


F-4E fighters. Japan gave up this technique only last year.

Some risks are associated with the cost of the program. The fact is that FX will turn out to be almost the most expensive modern project of the Self-Defense Forces - with unclear prospects. The development and construction of the required number of aircraft is estimated at 1,4-1,5 trillion yen. At the same time, we cannot yet exclude the possibility of further growth in the cost of the program. By comparison, the FY2021 military budget is is 5,33 trillion yen.

Even assuming that the work will be paid in installments over several years, the program can be considered overly complicated and expensive. The issue of price and spending has long been discussed in the press and in official circles, and in a negative way. In the future, this may lead to a revision of the program budget and corresponding changes in organization, requirements and schedule.

Uncertain Future


In the distant future, the Air Force of Japan wants to abandon the outdated 4th generation fighters of one of the available types and replace them with new aircraft of the next generation. Moreover, promising FX are going to develop independently, albeit with the help of foreign countries. For various reasons, it is too early to predict the unequivocal success or failure of such a program.

There are a number of factors that can change the situation for better or for worse, and their exact balance is not yet clear. Japan possesses some of the necessary technologies and competencies, but does not have experience in creating modern fighters. It can count on foreign aid, but its scope and specifics have not yet been determined. There are also ongoing disputes over the cost of the program and the feasibility of its implementation.

Time will tell whether all plans for upgrading tactical aviation will be fulfilled. If the FX program succeeds, Japan will in the distant future be able to upgrade its tactical aviation and get a truly modern aircraft. Otherwise, she will have to revise the purchase plan for equipment and look for some kind of alternative, probably of foreign production. However, every effort will be made to prevent this from happening.
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  1. +11
    27 July 2021 18: 07
    I remember the phrase from the ancient film "Signor Robinson": "Again about the sea."
    So is the article: "Again about nothing."
    1. +12
      27 July 2021 18: 43
      Despite the success of Mitsubishi's own Shinshin X-2 prototype, Japan is looking for a partner to develop the F-3 fighter. British BAE Systems and American Lockheed Martin are among the candidates.

      If BAE will participate in the development of the Japanese F-3 fighter, it is possible that Japan will receive many new technologies and even an engine from Tempest.
      1. 0
        27 July 2021 19: 09
        I think they won't be given an engine
      2. +3
        27 July 2021 19: 25
        Jan, the British are already working in conjunction with the Japanese. In particular, MHI is working with Rolls-Royce.
    2. -5
      27 July 2021 20: 00
      Quote: Undecim
      I remember the phrase from the ancient film "Signor Robinson": "Again about the sea."
      So is the article: "Again about nothing."

      I’ll say better: there is no such design bureau that surpasses the dry and Migovites! Yes
    3. -6
      27 July 2021 20: 32
      You are repeating .. From myself I will say - as invisibility has already shown itself to be visible - all these zips for advertising and sale. To the realities of the database are not related for sure! Yes
      1. +3
        27 July 2021 22: 13
        all these stuff for advertising and selling. To the realities of the DB have no relation for sure!

        Call Putin and Shoigu urgently !!! Due to their simplicity and stupidity, they "bought" into advertising and are buying an invisible Su-57!
        1. -7
          28 July 2021 02: 39
          Quote: dauria
          all these stuff for advertising and selling. To the realities of the DB have no relation for sure!

          Call Putin and Shoigu urgently !!! Due to their simplicity and stupidity, they "bought" into advertising and are buying an invisible Su-57!

          laughing laughing laughing Drying is an airplane, not an iron! First of all, because of this, it is bought! laughing
          1. +4
            28 July 2021 11: 48
            Ahahah))) Who and where is bought ??? )))
            The Indians refused because of (I quote) "because of significant delays in the development of the machine, a significant increase in cost and doubts about the technological capabilities of the fighter"
            1. +1
              28 July 2021 12: 06
              Quote: Yamamoto
              The Indians refused because of (I quote) "because of significant delays in the development of the machine, a significant increase in cost and doubts about the technological capabilities of the fighter"

              It's better not to talk about the Indians - their constant refusals and refusals of refusals have long been the talk of the town. During the period of the tender and the preparation of the contract, they can finally refuse ten times in order to return later. smile
              By the way, in the same article from Jane's Defense Weekly, from which you cited the translation of the quote, it is further written that:
              ... India may still "reconsider" its decision on the FGFA program or acquire fully developed and ready-made PAK FA fighters after they enter service with the Russian Air Force.

              Hindus traditionally try to bring down the price in this way and bargain for more favorable conditions for the production of equipment. Plus, they solve their internal political problems.
              1. +3
                28 July 2021 12: 17
                Well, ok))) So you want to say "First of all, because of this, and buy!" ?? laughing
                This is ridiculous )
                1. 0
                  28 July 2021 15: 26
                  Quote: Yamamoto
                  Well, ok))) So you want to say "First of all, because of this, and buy!" ?? laughing

                  No. I just want to say that the Hindus should not be taken as an example.
                  1. 0
                    28 July 2021 15: 37
                    Then I will agree. I was referring to the whole picture, as the complete opposite of "bought". What kind of buyability can we talk about, an aircraft that has been fed breakfast for 10 years about the series and barely rolled out 1 car "to the mountain" with a delay of several years. Once again - WHAT is being bought ???
  2. +3
    27 July 2021 18: 10
    Well, by the age of 30-40, the leading air forces expect to acquire 6th generation aircraft ... in extreme cases, 5+!
    1. +5
      27 July 2021 18: 15
      This is what the 6th generation Japanese do. They have already made five (X-2), and the other (F-35) is in service.
      1. -2
        27 July 2021 19: 18
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        This is what the 6th generation Japanese do.

        Oh, is it? Not having "felt" the 5th generation, immediately the 6th?

        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        They have already made five (X-2), and the other (F-35) is in service.

        X-2 they undertook to do; since the Americans "cheated" on whether to supply them with the F-35 or not ... Did you receive the F-2? Well, yes ... and feeling what kind of "hemorrhoids" it was, they rushed to develop FX ...
        1. +9
          27 July 2021 20: 50
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Did you receive the F-35? Well, yes ... and feeling what kind of "hemorrhoids" it was, they rushed to develop FX ...

          Fighters of different classes were made.
          And when they received this "hemorrhoid" they increased the order from the original 42 to 147 pieces. The same was done in Israel and South Korea. Those who are really preparing to fight take the F-35. That says it all.
          1. -8
            27 July 2021 22: 56
            Well, when will the Japanese be able to get their FX? And here the F-35 is right next to ... you can feel it! And the war is suddenly "tomorrow"! War is not war ... but how to tease and frighten the Russians in the Kuril Islands? Why not order? And others may have similar "considerations"! 1. Israel is "surrounded by warlike Arabs" ... and there will be no eroplan anyway ... 2. South Korea DPRK worries worse hemorrhoids ... and here the Chinese "ambitions" are louder and louder! And delay can be "like death"! Where to go? So you have to take what is, what is offered! And not because it is the best!
            1. +10
              27 July 2021 23: 11
              And what is better on the market than the F-35?
              The Japanese Air Force already has the F-15 and F-16 of its own assembly. And everyone understands that this is the outgoing generation, developments of the 70s of the last century.
              The F-22 is cool, but there are few of them, the avionics are outdated, and they also leave gradually, with old age.
              In 10 years, every second fighter in the world will be F-35. According to the statistics and dynamics of the issue.
              But the 6th generation will appear. And it will be the turn of the F-35 to gradually become obsolete over the course of 20-30 years. Like F-16 and F-15.
              1. +3
                27 July 2021 23: 18
                Quote: voyaka uh
                And what is better on the market than the F-35?

                The only thing comparable is Rafal. Typhoon may be, but there are many political problems. And prices x2.
                The more I learn about the Frenchman, the more I like him. The most underestimated fighter of our time in runet.
                1. -5
                  27 July 2021 23: 51
                  But imagine now that this Rafal will do the MiG-29 in close combat. At least the pilots on the site claimed it. hi
                  1. +4
                    27 July 2021 23: 55
                    Quote: Kasym
                    But imagine now that this Rafal will do the MiG-29 in close combat.

                    In childhood and adolescence, he was fond of science fiction, but this is already from the category of fantasy. For her love had no one.
                    1. -5
                      28 July 2021 00: 26
                      No one has yet surpassed the MiG-29 in terms of maneuverability. For example, in 13 seconds. no one makes a 360-degree turn - this is the main indicator of maneuverability. Well, if there is still an engine with OVT, then it is better for Rafal not to even approach.
                      Honestly, I don't even want to argue. I just saw how he was turning around in the air on the "patch" - and this was without any OBT.
                      1. +8
                        28 July 2021 00: 44
                        Paper performance characteristics are certainly great, as well as the "stories" of the pilots. But there is real life, in which the MiG-29 is the most shot down fighter of the 4th generation with 0 victories against classmates. In general, the plane is unsuccessful, without a single plus in front of the Su-27. Childhood diseases were eliminated only in the MiG-35, and that is not a fact.
                        And so look at the training battles between the old man FA-18D against the MiG-29 and the Su-30 magic OVT. This is much better than paper performance characteristics and deceitful "pilots"

                      2. +1
                        28 July 2021 00: 56
                        That's exactly what the paper is. "John Farley on the MiG-29" or "John Farley on the Su-27" - a foreign test pilot examines in detail the demonstration flights. I recommend. And there is no desire to argue.
                        All the downed MiG-29s were in an absolutely losing situation. Well, like in Yugoslavia. One against a crowd with AWACS, full radar control, satellites, etc.
                        It was not for nothing that the PGO was stuck on the Rafal in order to extend the maneuverability. But it also slows down the plane. More than 2 M will not pull, and if you also bring it to normal load, then ...
                      3. 0
                        28 July 2021 08: 04
                        In real life, the MiG-29 just in the Ethiopian-Eritrean War was not in a ratio of 1:10 or worse. The success of the F-15 in shooting down obsolete scrap metal, he repeated without any problems in the same war, he stumbled only on the Su-27.
                      4. +2
                        28 July 2021 08: 52
                        The Su-30MKM / MKI is not a top and not a miracle weapon for a long time, it is the same old man like that Hornet.
                      5. 0
                        28 July 2021 03: 29
                        Quote: Kasym
                        I just saw how he was turning around in the air on the "patch" - and this was without any OBT.

                        I saw how the drying 27 "on a patch" twists. It's just that there is a sect "invisibility and missile range", even from Vietnam. They do not realize that "early warning of the air situation" does not already exist by telephone. 29 ka with a bunch of problems was and mainly in terms of range, but initially it was like an EASY FRONT FIGHTER! In the 90s, the combatant Su-27 fought a demonstration battle with the F-15 over Tikhy Okiyan - he simply threw off the tail in a bend and sat on the tail himself! The pilot compared it: "closer to the MiG-29". Now, if we consider that the f15 is a very excellent machine in terms of LTH, then what can we say about irons in the form of a Fu-35 ???! Since the beginning of the entry into the series, the annual problems are only for problems of the 1st and 2nd categories under 1000, which the Pentagon has not been able to cope with for ten years .... It's like with the Yak-42, the son of Yakovlev did !!!! After launching the series, more than 1500 revisions in 3 !!! Of the year. But at least they fixed it. And here is an INVISIBLE SUPER IRON and a dozen years are not enough for crazy grandmothers to fix the dampness! But advertisements and dough from allies zashibayut for hundreds of fucking fucks!
                  2. +9
                    28 July 2021 00: 25
                    I don't know about the MiG, but in Egypt recently, in a training air battle, Rafal easily outplayed and "shot down" a Su-35 using electronic interference.
                    1. +1
                      28 July 2021 00: 34
                      Good night, Alexey! We have 4 o'clock in the morning. It's about close combat and vehicle maneuverability. And in this aspect, while the MiG-29 holds the bar high. Pilots from the GDR, Yugoslavia, Poland, etc. at the airfield praised him for his maneuverability. We were just delighted.
                      So the Indians on the MiG-21 F-15 in training battles happened to be beaten. Here, a lot depends on the filling and on the qualifications. I do not think that the Russian Federation installed advanced avionics on Egyptian Su-35s, in particular, electronic warfare systems. hi
                    2. 0
                      28 July 2021 08: 08
                      You know better from Israel. True, training battles are always carried out with rules, and the definition of certain conditions, for example, specifically check certain conditions, for example, can electronic warfare help, or cannot.
                    3. -2
                      28 July 2021 09: 01
                      Well, this is, to put it mildly, unreliable. I believe more Chinese forums than mysterious sources from the depths of the ukronet.
                  3. 0
                    28 July 2021 15: 26
                    While Rafal has finished the SU 35!
                2. +5
                  28 July 2021 00: 10
                  Rafal has very advanced electronic warfare systems invested in deceiving enemy radars and missiles. And other avionics are very modern for air combat. Well, he is nimble and fast.
                  But on radars it shines decently compared to the F-35.
                  Let's say there: the F-35 is wiser to evade a direct battle with it, using the gain in stealth, and lure into some kind of air ambush, working in pairs.
                  This is how the F-35 trains: the team, network information awareness, ambushes ...
                  1. +2
                    28 July 2021 00: 20
                    Yes, the question is in the tactics of application. Rafal, due to electronic warfare, speed and maneuverability, can get out of an ambush, then an unscheduled meeting with the ground is inevitable in the already discovered F-35s. Here is the question of a specific scenario.
                    But the main thing is the price, the F-35 is just 2 times cheaper, for those who have access to both fighters, the choice is obvious.
                  2. +1
                    28 July 2021 08: 09
                    Good morning, fighters always work in pairs, and if lure is the only option, then you simply do not have air defense.
                    1. 0
                      28 July 2021 09: 42
                      Good morning and you! drinks
                      For the F-35, working in pairs is not flying next to each other,
                      but fully exchange information not including the walkie-talkie,
                      being 50 km apart and not getting close
                  3. 0
                    28 July 2021 09: 05
                    Electronic warfare is not a panacea, relying on it constantly is to make the same mistake as the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria.
                3. +1
                  28 July 2021 08: 16
                  Is it underestimated in dollars and euros too? And this is a fairly typical machine with a large wing, and as a result of this, a good combat load and mountains. maneuverability at not very high speed indicators. Aerodynamically, only one refueling rod, which could not be removed inside, since the plane is small, which is worth it.

                  And so, a good multifunctional aircraft for those who do not need heavy interceptors in large quantities.
              2. -6
                27 July 2021 23: 35
                And what is better on the market than the F-35?

                Or maybe it's better to ask what is worse on the market than the F-35? ))))
                Because how to call the best aircraft that cannot be supersonic, whose inter-flight service time is close to 72 hours (or is it for the F-22?), And which has the most expensive flight time among fighters, is possible only with great fanaticism))) )
                1. +9
                  28 July 2021 00: 20
                  "which cannot supersonic" ///
                  ---
                  Maybe quite.
                  It was tested up to 1.65 MAX in level flight. No problem.
                  Another thing is that supersonic is not his strong point.
                  The F-35 is not an air superiority fighter or an interceptor.
                  But, like its predecessor, the F-16, it can cause a lot of trouble in aerial combat. Sharp reversals, for example, are easy to do.
                  The F-35 is a collective hunter, not a lone tiger. Its communications and situational awareness systems are far superior to today's competitors. And he also knows how to "disappear from the radar" without being shot down. smile
                  1. -3
                    28 July 2021 08: 12
                    The F-35 is a more advanced version of the Super Hornet and nothing more. "Superhornet" simply was not created for interception, for this there were fast F-14s. Well, the problem is that it was not necessary to lie initially that one Fu-35 will replace everyone, in fact it turns out that it cannot replace everyone, in particular, high-speed aircraft.

                    And tie about the network, everyone already has such a thing, no worse.
                    1. +7
                      28 July 2021 08: 57
                      "The F-35 is a more advanced version of the" superhornet "////
                      ----
                      This is a pearl! We have never heard this! laughing
                      To provide the capabilities of the F-35 (and even then - not completely) to the Super Hornet
                      we have to hang several containers with equipment under the belly.
                      This is not including weapons on external harnesses.
                      In the F-35, everything is integrated into the fuselage.
                      It’s even strange that we have to remind you of such obvious things. recourse

                      ===
                      "And tie about the network, everyone already has such a thing, no worse" ///
                      ---
                      So far, only F-35 and F-16 have been linked.
                      Others do not have anything close to it - complete radio silence in a group battle outside the line of sight.
              3. 0
                28 July 2021 07: 23
                Quote: voyaka uh
                And what is better on the market than the F-35?

                That's it ! There is no better! So they take what they have, what they give!
                Quote: voyaka uh
                The Japanese Air Force already has the F-15 and F-16 of its own assembly. And everyone understands that this is the outgoing generation, developments of the 70s of the last century.

                And again ... "that's it!" ... F-15, F-16-the outgoing generation ... And then China begins to "become impudent" against Japan with its ambitions and J-20 and J-31 planes! And FX will not appear "tomorrow morning"! So they take the F-35 ...!
                1. +5
                  28 July 2021 09: 07
                  "by J-20 and J-31 planes! And the FX will not appear" tomorrow morning "! So they take the F-35 ...!" ///
                  ---
                  You understood the situation completely correctly good
                  The Japanese realized that they can fully fight against the Chinese 5th generation
                  only other aircraft of the 5th generation. ("Here they are taking the F-35 ...!" Quote)
          2. -3
            28 July 2021 02: 44
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            Those who are really preparing to fight take the F-35. That says it all.

            not "to fight", but "to beat the show-off"!
          3. -2
            28 July 2021 08: 18
            Do the Japanese have a choice? F-15Js wear out too. South Korea is also making its own plane, they have already made a small one, now they are doing normal.
      2. -3
        28 July 2021 08: 01
        After WWII, they only made their own version of the F-16. Now it's easy for them to repeat the level of the F-35 already in space.
        1. +4
          28 July 2021 09: 18
          You are surprisingly not familiar with simple information.
          Japan has successfully localized the production of the F-15 and released
          152 pieces of Mitsubishi F-15J (copy of Boeing F-15 Eagle).
          Japan has now successfully localized the production of the F-35.
          With high build quality. True, the rate of release is relatively low.
          Therefore, its own production of the F-35 will continue in parallel with the import of another 100+ from the USA.
    2. 0
      28 July 2021 07: 36
      Right! The author simply did not mention that the Japanese are sawing with this project just the 6th generation
    3. 0
      25 October 2021 08: 43
      When did you expect to receive the F-22 initially, and when did you actually get it?
      Dreamwalkers.
  3. +1
    27 July 2021 18: 12
    By the 35th year, the fifth generation will already be outdated.
    1. 0
      25 October 2021 08: 45
      Will not. Most countries (even some developed ones) will still be flying at 4th generation.
      1. 0
        30 October 2021 02: 53
        Most likely. But this does not negate the fact that the current division into generations itself will become obsolete.
  4. +8
    27 July 2021 18: 52
    To be honest, I doubt that they will immediately be able to step into the 5th generation.

    One of the projects of Mitsubishi Aircraft Corporation, a subsidiary of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, clearly shows this. I'm talking about the Mitsubishi Regional Jet (MRJ) project, a regional turbofan aircraft that they stumbled over. Despite foreign aid ..
    In total, the MRJ program spent about 1 trillion yen, which is equivalent to $ 9,6 billion. The program received funding in 2003 (from the state). In 2007, the concept was released. The first flight was performed in 2015 instead of the planned 2011. Further delays in the passage of tests.

    According to the results for today:
    * flight test program not completed.
    * in October 2020, MHI announced a freeze of work under the MSJ program, with the exception of work with certification documentation for the period 2021-2023.

    And this is an ordinary regionalist.
    5th generation, you say? I do not believe wink laughing
    1. +4
      27 July 2021 20: 24
      Quote: Orkraider
      5th generation, you say? I do not believe laughing

      I, by the way, too hi as they say, today into tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Or rather, not only everyone can watch, very few people can do it ...
      So with the modern 5th generation flying machine - the required technological backlog is too great, in fact - the countries that are pulling this in the world now - can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
      Many are puffed up, they say that they will immediately develop the 6th generation, but in fact they will pull the SKD from foreign spare parts, with partial localization.
    2. +3
      27 July 2021 20: 52
      Yes, with the regional leader, they specifically screwed up 12 billion dollars for him, and this is without setting up serial production.
    3. +3
      28 July 2021 03: 43
      Quote: Orkraider
      And this is an ordinary regionalist

      to the point!
    4. 0
      28 July 2021 09: 06
      They can, but long, expensive, etc.
  5. +2
    27 July 2021 19: 32
    The price of a serial aircraft will be in the range of 20-30 billion yen (180-270 million dollars) - that's what they are aiming at, walking like that.
    1. +5
      27 July 2021 19: 40
      Quote: Nosorog
      20-30 billion yen (180-270 million dollars)

      This is the export price of the Su-57, Rafal, Typhoon. On the lower border.
      1. -8
        27 July 2021 20: 54
        If the Su 57 will be exported, it will not exceed $ 100 million per unit.
        1. +3
          27 July 2021 21: 01
          For the Su-35 they ask for $ 100 million, the Su-30MKI goes already for $ 83 million.

          For the Su-57, the Indus were asked $ 180 million overboard + investments in development from above. Therefore, they sent this project to hell. Therefore, there are no orders from other countries either. It's easier and safer to buy Rafale than a pig in a poke for the same money.
          1. -1
            28 July 2021 08: 22
            It is not customary to refer to Hindus in decent society. The Indians were invited on conditions that are not offered twice, that the Indians loved everything, and now they will only buy ready-made aircraft, if they are still sold, these are the problems of the Indians.

            Anyway, what nafig orders from other countries. To just get the right to buy the Su-57 in the middle. 20 years need I don't even know what to do. Such weapons are supplied only to their most loyal dogs.
            1. +4
              28 July 2021 12: 01
              That is, the DPRK and Venezuela?
  6. mvg
    0
    27 July 2021 20: 23
    The article is read in one breath. As if you are eating a rubber dumpling ... you are chewing and chewing ... And the breath ends in the middle of the first paragraph ... I can't. What kind of T080BVM, what kind of X-2.
    1. +1
      28 July 2021 04: 01
      Quote: mvg
      The article is read in one breath. As if you are eating a rubber dumpling ... you are chewing and chewing ... And the breath ends in the middle of the first paragraph ... I can't. What kind of T080BVM, what kind of X-2.

      What Ryabov Kirill has been writing lately is very difficult to read. It seems that this is a burden to him. But before, we got lively and sensible publications.
      1. mvg
        0
        28 July 2021 04: 28
        very hard to read

        Good morning, Olga. I agree. I, of course, biased, but it is impossible to read. Yesterday, like a respected aunt, I was reading the text ... so some moments were repeated 4 times! I'm serious. Since I already knew this text beforehand, it was very stressful to listen to it. But I immediately remembered for Ryabov and it became a little easier wink
  7. -1
    27 July 2021 21: 28
    And after that they say that everything is bad in the aviation industry. Only one sou 57 already now corresponds to all Japanese parameters and wishes, and they only want it in the thirties they want to get it. And that's not to mention the rest of the aircraft.
  8. 0
    27 July 2021 22: 19
    If BAE will participate in the development of the Japanese F-3 fighter, it is possible that Japan will receive many new technologies and even an engine from Tempest.

    The first Japanese propeller-driven aircraft were designed by British specialists after the First World War.
  9. +1
    27 July 2021 22: 36
    Interestingly INTO they as obyknoveno nevzyalis for a ready-made amerovsky engine and develop their own with Rolls-Royce.
  10. -2
    28 July 2021 08: 28
    The bottom line is in brief: the Japanese hope to build their 2035th generation by 5, since they did not do anything more complicated than the development of their version of the F-16 after WWII, the whole event is extremely doubtful. At the same time, one must understand that Japan produced a lot of different junk, on which it rose, even produced unique equipment, but since the 90s it has been in a permanent crisis, since televisions are now being made in China, and fundamental science in Japan and developed precisely that the military-industrial complex is not in Japan.

    In short, in 15 years we come and see what happens.
  11. 0
    28 July 2021 12: 02
    Interestingly, the deck version will be cut right away? I am sure that yes.

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