Russian module "Pirs" undocked from the ISS was de-orbited and flooded in the Pacific Ocean

The Russian Pirs module, undocked from the ISS today, was de-orbited and flooded in the Pacific Ocean. The undocking and flooding work was carried out by the Progress-16 spacecraft.

The undocking of the module, which has been operating on the ISS for 20 years, began today. At 16:13, the Progress-56 ship departed from the lower docking station of the Russian Zvezda module at 13.59:XNUMX, Moscow time, at XNUMX Moscow time, the ship turned on the engines and moved the module away from the station, thereby freeing up the docking station for the new Nauka module. which is already moving towards the ISS.

Progress-16 launched the vault of the Pirs module from orbit at 17:01 in order to flood it in the Pacific Ocean. Currently, according to calculations, the ship with the module should already enter the atmosphere and collapse. The elements remaining from them will fall in the South Pacific.

By the way, the Progress-16 ship was nicknamed "Gerasim" in the MCC in honor of the hero of Turgenev's story "Mumu" for her actions to flood the Pirs module.

Meanwhile, the Nauka multifunctional module, launched on July 21 into orbit with the help of the Proton-M launch vehicle, continues to move to the ISS, the module docking to the station is scheduled for July 29. On July 24, the MCC made an orbit adjustment of the new module, the next one is scheduled for Tuesday, July 27.

After undocking of Pirs, the Russian segment of the ISS consists of four modules: the Zarya functional cargo block (launched in 1998), the Zvezda service module (2000), the Poisk (2009) and Rassvet ( 2010). After docking "Science", it will again become a five-module. The "Science" will be docked to the "Star" module. Despite its name, the new module will also be used to maintain the orientation of the ISS, dock ships and maintain the station's life support system. In addition, the module will have a living single cabin.

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[spirit]

Here you can spin the ISS 3D model For a better understanding of what is there to docked
https://iz.ru/642892/2017-09-07/3d-model-mks

[Marachuh]

And what about the domestic station? Rogozin promised to seem

[lucul]

And what about the domestic station?

Will be, the main purpose is military, the issuance of target designation))))
There is enough electrical energy.

[Fungus]

The first module of their station will be launched in 2024. Now they are building it.

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Quote: Fungus

The first module of their station will be launched in 2024. Now they are building it.

In 2025.

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Quote: Marachuh

And what about the domestic station? Rogozin promised to seem

He said that they were still thinking about which orbit to put it in after all. At the end of the month they will decide.

[Disant]

and what is the range of options from the originally voiced?

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Quote: Disant

and what is the range of options from the original voiced?

Different orbital inclinations. It all depends on the technical (RKK) and scientific (RAS) justification. Well, the decision to create from the government.

[skif8013]

Quote: Marachuh

And what about the domestic station? Rogozin promised to seem

Rogozin and science promised hell knows when to send and fly to Mars.

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Quote: skif8013

Rogozin and science promised hell knows when to send

This year he said he will fly. Here, flew away. Already in orbit, phasing is located, before the maneuver to the station.

Quote: skif8013

and fly to Mars.

The Mars Planetary Station is done a year ago. We are waiting for Europe, they slow down.

[Ruslan Sulima]

And for what purpose are you interested?))

[alexey alexeyev_4]

They wait for the promised three years. He promised so much that he needs three more terms to fulfill it.

[Alecsandr]

Our cosmonauts have a sense of humor, for which Gerasim flooded Mumu.

[Cat]

Why Gerasim flooded Mumu

For barking and disturbing the lady. It's good that the Persian princess was not nicknamed "Pierce". I remember that they also drowned ...

[Cananecat]

And throws her overboard
Into the oncoming wave ...

[lucul]

thereby freeing up the docking port for the new Nauka module, which is already moving towards the ISS.

But how many liberals have ridden themselves of this module, they say they have brought Russia to such a degree of degradation that it cannot even launch the module))))

[Utes]

Quote: lucul

thereby freeing up the docking port for the new Nauka module, which is already moving towards the ISS.

But how many liberals have ridden themselves of this module, they say they have brought Russia to such a degree of degradation that it cannot even launch the module))))

And this is a good indicator .. The more the Libers scold and the US squeals, it means we are going the right way.

[Cosm22]

Um ...
Do you, in fact, have an idea of ​​HOW Russia launched this module? Even the most distant?
Do you even know in general terms what happened to the module, starting on the 21st?

[General failure]

And what was happening?

On the Roscosmos website from the 14th it is written:

The estimated launch date is July 21, 2021 at 17:58:21 Moscow time.
Docking is scheduled for July 29, 2021 at 16:26 Moscow time.

Proof here: https://web.archive.org/web/20210715000000*/https://www.roscosmos.ru/31395/

Or do you want this: "You just told me the truth, but I want terrible things"?

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Quote: Cosm22

Um ...
Do you, in fact, have an idea of ​​HOW Russia launched this module? Even the most distant?
Do you even know in general terms what happened to the module, starting on the 21st?

I have. After the Barnaul station did not give telemetry about the systems, these systems had to be re-checked. As the systems were checked, the systems required at the stage of the module ascent to the ISS were put into operation. There were questions about the fuel system, but they were also resolved successfully, and with a margin of consumption - in maneuvers, as in the last time on the "Zarya", only one main engine was involved, the second was left "in reserve".

Here on the chart from the American astrophysicist you can see everything:

[Cosm22]

You only have what is written in the manual.
People who are really interested in the topic know a little more.
Actually, the first swallow flew by when Rogozin mumbled in a patter about the ten-second loss of telemetry after separation from the third stage. And he fell silent. Which was even more alarming. How so? After all, an epoch-making event! Such a module was thrown into orbit! Rogozin over the routine start of the "Union" is filled with a nightingale, and then suddenly all the eloquence somewhere in an instant evaporated. In the evening he gave out another pearl in the spirit of "everything is fine, beautiful marquise!", And fell silent again.
That everything was not good at all, it became clear when the time of the first correction of the module's orbit was overdue. And when Pierce's undocking was moved from 23rd to 24th, and then to 25th, it became clear that the problems were serious. From RK information - zero. The people began to scour in search of one. The press service of Roscosmos was silent, like a fish on ice.
Infa went from NASA, NORAD, the English-language Twitter segment and from the same Zach in tweets.
It became clear that the command to start the main propulsion system did not work.
Along the way, infa flashed about problems with the Kurs-A antenna system, a docking target, sensors, software, imbalance in the BVD / BND and other small things.
Only the next day Rogozin finally made us happy: the perigee of the module's orbit was raised.
How was it raised?
DKS?
DPS?
And the dog knows him, people, apparently, are not interested. From his point of view. By the way, judging by the announced figure of 120 kg of the obtained average thrust, there could not be any talk of turning on the main propulsion system. It became clear that the traffic police were launched.
One booster station was launched only by Friday evening. They tightened the apogee with perigee.
And then Rogozin cheerfully reported that the Kurs-A system was debugged (wait and see, no matter how TORU had to be activated).
That was such an interesting launch of "Science". And the banquet is not over yet. Let's wait for the opening of the passageways.

[Fungus]

Now believe the bot from Ukraine. Oha. I remember you tried Nord Stream 2 all the way back when the sanctions were imposed. I was jumping for joy. As a result, JV 2 is almost damaged. And do not worry about Science. Worry about your yuzhmash.

[Cosm22]

1. Are you also an anti-Semite? Is this welcomed on this resource? Is this the norm? Did not know...
2. Speaking about the subsequent telemetry, it would be nice to tie the date with a proof.
3. The problem was not the loss of information. The problem was that the signal to turn on the booster station did not go through. Therefore, the perigee of the DPS was raised urgently, which are not intended at all for this. What was left? In a critical situation?
4. What do the people on the module have to do with it? You have little time in a quarter of a century, during which you could lick the module with your tongue? Not enough vigorous response from the RK about the successful 700 tests and inspections? After which, in flight, the jambs began to come to light one after another?
5. Roskosmos did not give out anything at all, was silent, like a partisan, all infa came from NASA and NORAD. Information about the Russian module, Karl! Okay, it's useless to wait for information from the SKKP (although the same NORAD puts some of the data in free access and is not afraid of anything. Thanks to him and for "Science"). Okay, MCC has no time for this, in MCC there is confusion and slight panic. Officials think more only about how to evade personal responsibility than about how to present this emergency to society. But it is precisely for such a case that the press service of the Republic of Kazakhstan was invented. In order to bring at least some clarity. I don’t believe that there was no information. Within a few hours, the MCC should have known that the command to turn on the main remote control did not pass. It was enough for the pressuha to say: there were problems with the module software. Or with remote control. Or with the rest of the iron. They are quickly resolved. Everything! This is enough to calm people down. Instead, there is deathly silence. Many hours. This is a disregard for people who are waiting for information. Absolute indifference. I do not know how long a similar NASA service would have lasted in their offices if it had behaved in this way.
6. There was no testing regime. The module was urgently raised by the traffic police, because there were no other methods at that time, and time was running out. Look at the inclination of the orbits in those hours.
7. Ie. was there a problem with the "Course"? Wow ... And then I already began to doubt.

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Quote: Cosm22

1. Are you also an anti-Semite? Is this welcomed on this resource? Is this the norm? Did not know...

Since when is it forbidden to mention this nation aloud? My friend Moishe Livenson constantly mentions in conversation that he is a Jew. Do you think that only Jews can be said to be Jews?

Quote: Cosm22

2. Speaking about the subsequent telemetry, it would be nice to tie the date with a proof.

The same day when it was launched. TV broadcast by NASA. On the screen MCC can be read.

Quote: Cosm22

3. The problem was not the loss of information. The problem was that the signal to turn on the booster station did not go through. Therefore, the perigee of the DPS was raised urgently, which are not intended at all for this. What was left? In a critical situation?

Who told you about a "signal". Even the Jewish immigrant did not talk about it.

Quote: Cosm22

4. What do the people on the module have to do with it?

Yes, despite the fact that you cannot get data on systems right away. This is technically impossible.

Quote: Cosm22

You have little time in a quarter of a century, during which you could lick the module with your tongue?

Do you often lick?

Quote: Cosm22

Not enough vigorous response from the RK about the successful 700 tests and inspections? After which, in flight, the jambs began to come to light one after another?

Everything works well. The module rises.

Quote: Cosm22

5. Roskosmos did not give out anything at all, was silent, like a partisan, all infa came from NASA and NORAD.

What nonsense. Go to the Roscosmos website and read it.

Quote: Cosm22

Okay, it's useless to wait for information from the SKKP (although the same NORAD puts some of the data in free access and is not afraid of anything at the same time.

Yes, let him spread it, what is it to us? We already have all the information. The rest is on the Roscosmos website.

Quote: Cosm22

This is a disregard for people who are waiting for information.

What do these "people" have to do with the flight of the module? Those who have - own all the information. And "people" can wait for a successful docking.

Quote: Cosm22

6. There was no testing regime. The module was urgently raised by the traffic police, because there were no other methods at that time, and time was running out. Look at the inclination of the orbits in those hours.

There was no "emergency lifting". Look at the graph - the third stage is still in its orbit and only slightly lowered its apogee.

Quote: Cosm22

7. Ie. was there a problem with the "Course"? Wow ... And then I already began to doubt.

What was the problem with the Course? The Jew told you, hamsters, that there was no telemetry for deploying the course antennas. At the same time, however, he ignored the upper left screen of the MCC.

And the docking system test is ALWAYS performed before docking.

[Cosm22]

Eh, slipped ...
At one time, Mayakovsky earned this way. He wrote with a ladder. Why do you need this?
Well, after all, I should know no worse than me that there was absolutely no sensible information from the RK for more than a day. Moreover, with the TLE application. Then why all this?
All information came exclusively from NORAD and NASA. But not from those who should do it in the service.
You've even attached a bourgeois schedule. There was no domestic one?
That's the same ...
Go to bed already. Wait for the next correction of the module's orbit. This is what you need to think about now.

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Quote: Cosm22

Eh, slipped ...
At one time, Mayakovsky earned this way. He wrote with a ladder. Why do you need this?

Didn't enter this passage at all. What did you eat there?

Quote: Cosm22

Well, after all, I should know no worse than me that there was absolutely no sensible information from the RK for more than a day.

The liar lied again?

https://www.roscosmos.ru/31943/ 21-е число - запуск, данные по орбите вывода.

https://www.roscosmos.ru/31978/ 22-е число - данные о первых проверках модуля, данные об изменении орбиты.

https://www.roscosmos.ru/31985/ 23-е число - совещание по последующим проверкам систем - решали как лучше и быстрее провести эти проверки, чтобы вписаться в 29-е число.

https://www.roscosmos.ru/31993/ 24-е число - ещё две коррекции.

Quote: Cosm22

Then why all this?
All information came exclusively from NORAD and NASA.

Above is information from Roskosmos, with orbital parameters. Come in and take a look.

Quote: Cosm22

But not from those who have to do it in the service. You've even attached a bourgeois timetable.

To lay out chipboard graphs on the network? You speak, speak, but do not speak.

Quote: Cosm22

There was no domestic one?
That's the same ...

Draw yourself. The data is all there.

Quote: Cosm22

Go to bed already. Wait for the next correction of the module's orbit. This is what you need to think about now.

So sleep, wait or think? Docking in two days.

[Vadim237]

Finish your nagging, whining diarrhea, he's really tired of it - wait for the docking of Science with the ISS.

[Titus_2]

So enlighten ...

[Blackmokona]

On Topvar, they missed all the news about the salvation of science, her engines there refused after the withdrawal, almost drowned

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On Topvar, they missed all the news about the salvation of science, her engines there refused after the withdrawal, almost drowned

Refused? And then came to their senses and turned on? Do not carry pugra dear. There, even the third stage of the rocket has not yet descended and continues to fly.

[Blackmokona]

Yes, they refused, at first they lifted on the maneuverable ones, and then managed to launch one sustainer

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Yes, they refused, at first they lifted on the maneuverable ones, and then managed to launch one sustainer

Wow. Did Zorya also manage ONE march 22 years ago?

[Blackmokona]

MOSCOW, July 27 - RIA Novosti. On the multipurpose laboratory module "Science" during the flight to the International Space Station (ISS), several emergencies arose, but most of them were managed by Russian specialists, Alexander Ukraintsev, a member of the North-West Organization of the Russian Federation of Cosmonautics This was reported to RIA Novosti.

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Alexander ukratsev, member of the North-Western Organization of the Russian Federation of Cosmonautics

Member of the Northwest, yeah. I especially liked the passages in the style "it didn't work, but then it started to work."

[Blackmokona]

Read more open Americans who cover in detail all their breakdowns and problems and how to solve them. For example, all the twists around the Hubble

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Read more open Americans who cover in detail all their breakdowns and problems and how to solve them. For example, all the twists around the Hubble

And you should read the latest and open message from Roscosmos https://www.roscosmos.ru/32014/ about the next regular correction of the module's orbit and not read the messages in the OBS style from members of the near-space "federation". Or do not be lazy and look at the graph of the same American astrophysicist, where he personally makes all the changes:

The module's orbit as of today, according to MCC data, is 51.64 ° 361.2 421.2 km 92.15 min.

ISS altitude - 420.98 km

[Blackmokona]

Yes, according to these graphs, the points for which were given by NORAD plus the data of Rosskosmos on the duration of the engine's switch-ons, and they counted on which ones and how many they flew with the engine

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Quote: BlackMokona

on what and how many engines flew

On what and how much is reported by Roskomos itself on a regular basis. Or Rogozin in Telegram https://t.me/rogozin_do/779. There were links here. Can't you read? The desire to exacerbate the situation with some hypo-gluttons is quite understandable - it is necessary to work it out.

[Blackmokona]

Does not report, you can look at the corresponding topics of the forums News of Astronautics and Astroforum. Where everything was tracked and all news was published. How much swearing there was from patriots and cheers of patriots towards Rosskosmos that nicherta does not give and every time we wait for Burzhuins

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Doesn't report

What does it not tell you? Every day a press release is published on the RK website. There are daily direct links here in this thread that I gave you. Well, do not want to read, go to the sites of MLM sufferers. Only heresy does not need to be borne from there.

[Blackmokona]

Orbital parameters, for example, after each movement, they are taken from the NORAD website

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Orbital parameters, for example, after each movement, they are taken from the NORAD website

I have a feeling that you are waiting for something bad to happen to the module. Burn with desire for it. But I must tell you - you will not wait. The module has a very high "safety margin" - even, for example, if the fuel meter is at zero, there will still be ~ 200 liters of reserve in the tanks and pipelines. Docking tomorrow at 16:26 Moscow time.

[Blackmokona]

No, I'm just saying what happened. After all the super long delays, it's frustrating to watch a bunch of failures

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No, I'm just saying what happened. After all the super long delays, it's frustrating to watch a bunch of failures

So there were no "fail". Science as part of the ISS. For the first time in the world, such a heavy ship was docked on the side docking station, previously all docked to the axial ones.

[Blackmokona]

Already fails docked, troubles persist.

The engines on the Nauka multifunctional laboratory module (MLM) docked to the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS) unexpectedly turned on, RIA Novosti reports, referring to the astronauts' negotiations with the Mission Control Center (MCC).

“I can confirm that the engines are still working and we can feel it,” said cosmonaut Oleg Novitsky on the ISS.

According to NASA, the ISS changed its position in space due to the inclusion of the Nauka engines.

Currently, the engines of "Science" are not working

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Already fails docked, troubles persist. Replied to you with a quote in another topic

Yah. Pogazal a bit. And you put it in your pants? There is a discharge of excess from the pipelines. And KDU "Zvezdy" compensates for everything.

[Blackmokona]

Yeah, unplanned gaziks put in their pants

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Yeah, unplanned gaziks put in their pants

Change your pants. And everything is fine with us. The ISS is in order - the crew is resting.

[JonnyT]

What else do they write there?
Well, yes. It is all the partners who are to blame - they from Alaska often irradiate our spacecraft in the hope of burning them out on-board electronics. So it was with Phobos soil, with Fedor, now they tried to spoil Science

[Alien From]

The station will be scrapped soon, and we are sending all the modules ...

[Utes]

Quote: Alien From

The station will be scrapped soon, and we are sending all the modules ...

Well, it will undock, then .. There I understood the tricky module very much.
Soon Russia will have its own station, so everything is going very tricky there ..

[Fungus]

The main thing is to dock Science

[den3080]

Quote: Fungus

The main thing is to dock Science

And don't forget the Technique! Because they are always there - "Science and Technology"

[Baloo]

And I was pleased with this:

The NATO spy satellite Sentinel-22, flying over the city of Rostov-on-Don on July 1, was disabled by the Russian Tirada electronic warfare (EW) complex.

Three-fold Hurray! Well, behind our complexes

[reserve]

When there is news in the competent media, I will definitely rejoice. It's like Syrian beeches shot down and missed 1 and in the photo a burnt sieve. By the way, the information is also unreliable. Neither one nor this is believed yet)

[Disant]

Three-fold Hurray! Well, behind our complexes

as soon as something like this happens with confirmation from the attacking side, it will be a precedent that will immediately untie everyone's hands in space.
the first to collapse the warning satellites of a nuclear attack and zhps. and it will rush.
while this is all speculation and provocation

[Going]

By the way, the Progress-16 ship was nicknamed "Gerasim" in the MCC in honor of the hero of Turgenev's story "Mumu" for her actions to flood the Pirs module.

It's good that humor is all right.

[Egoza]

Quote: Going

By the way, the Progress-16 ship was nicknamed "Gerasim" in the MCC in honor of the hero of Turgenev's story "Mumu" for her actions to flood the Pirs module.


It's good that humor is all right.

Ooh! Now all sorts of defenders will raise a howl! "For animals, for pollution of the ocean, and something else"

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Quote: Going

It's good that humor is all right.

The spacecraft that will sink the ISS AS will be named Raskolnikov.

[Titus_2]

You are not in trend with Raskolnikov .... Greta Tumberg wrote above and all that. In fact, thank you for refuting the arguments of some comrades who are not comrades at all. If you did not see the arguments from you, then I would finally lose faith in our capabilities.

[reserve]

On the 29th, when the module "Science" is successfully connected, I will be pleased. In the meantime, the association with the flooding of the Mir station. And what is this module for? for a couple of years of work? It took a long time and will work quickly. Something like that. And I am only glad for the continuation of trouble-free launches

[Reserve buildbat]

Yes, they said that our modules would be detached from the ISS and added with new ones until the Russian station was received.

[Cosm22]

Yes?
Who said so?
Are you aware that new places of air leakage have been found in the Zvezdy PrK?
Who needs this stuff?

[Alex777]

Science is rubbish?

[Cosm22]

I responded to a comment in which the word "modules" is plural. Is it hard to understand?
As for Nauka specifically, from my point of view its launch is absolutely hopeless. For many reasons.

[Alex777]

As for Nauka specifically, from my point of view its launch is absolutely hopeless. For many reasons.

I also assumed your point of view. Therefore, I clarified.

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Quote: rezerv

for a couple of years of work?

Five years of work. But it is designed for 7 years with the possibility of prolongation to 15.

For reference BB DOS "Mir" - an analogue of SM "Zvezda" was designed for 5 years of operation. Worked for 15 years. JI "Pirs" - for 5 years, worked for almost 20 years.

[Hog]

Goodbye Pier

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Goodbye Pier

For the first time in the world, undocking of modules that have been in outer space for almost 20 years has been carried out.

[K-50]

How justified is the withdrawal of a new module-block to the ISS when no one wants to support it, including Roskosmos?
Wasn't it worth it to "wait a bit" and take it straight to the new Russian station, which is planned instead of the ISS?

[Alex777]

Nobody will tell us exactly what was exchanged for what in Geneva?

[reserve]

All ordinary citizens think so, but they simply did not convey to the masses that there was European technology there. And displayed for studying something there that we do not know. In short, the agreement was and was withdrawn. An expert explained to me.

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Quote: K-50

How justified is the withdrawal of a new module-block to the ISS when no one wants to support it, including Roskosmos?

The station is guaranteed to operate until 2025 inclusive, which means that both NASA and Roscosmos will support it.

Quote: K-50

Wasn't it worth it to "wait a bit" and take it straight to the new Russian station, which is planned instead of the ISS?

The ships-modules 77K (M) are designed to work only in conjunction with the base modules 17KS (M). A new design module is created for the new station.

[Cosm22]

"The station will be guaranteed to fly until 2025 inclusive"?
Let's clarify: roughly. Until 2024/2025.
But a colleague asks the right question - how justified is the conclusion of "Science" today?
Let's listen to the master of Russian cosmonautics, Mr. Rogozin: "NEM" and "Prichal", perhaps, will not be sent to the ISS, as it is not entirely reasonable, modules designed for 15–20 years of operation should be sent to the station, the work of which may soon be terminated. "Golden words! Especially considering the most realistic completion date of the ISS operation - 2024-2025. But in this case, what about the" Science "? Which is also supposedly designed for 15 years of operation? Well Duc ... This is another, the stump is clear. It is necessary to understand. Let it work at least 3-4 years. This, however, without taking into account the net downtime. It will take 8-9 long-term space walks of the crew into space for installation work (not in one day it is clear, and not for one week) and 12 months of commissioning work in the module itself, until a complete check and acceptance of all its systems occurs.And there is a movie ... And there are new leaks ... Awesome efficiency on the exhaust will be from "Science"! the remaining 2-3 years.

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Quote: Cosm22

"The station will be guaranteed to fly until 2025 inclusive"?
Let's clarify: roughly. Until 2024/2025.

Why clarify if the flight schedule is scheduled until the end of 2025.

Quote: Cosm22

But a colleague asks the right question - how justified is the conclusion of "Science" today?
Let's listen to the master of Russian cosmonautics, Mr. Rogozin: "NEM" and "Prichal" may not be sent to the ISS, since it is not entirely reasonable, modules designed for 15–20 years of operation should be sent to the station, the work of which may soon to be terminated. "Golden words!

And before they said: "The ISS station was supposed to be flooded in 2017. But the ISS operation POSSIBLY will be extended until 2021". It is now 2021 and the station is in orbit.

Quote: Cosm22

Especially if we take into account the most realistic dates for the completion of the ISS operation - 2024-2025.

During this time, a number of space experiments will be carried out on the "Science" module. For this, a large amount of scientific equipment will be delivered to the module, in addition to the removed.

Quote: Cosm22

Awesome exhaust efficiency will be at "Science"! For the possible remaining 2-3 years.

Awesome. For five years.

[Cosm22]

For 2-3 years. If the second episode will not be filmed. Moving away from flying at the same time professionals who have put a fair amount of their lives on preparing for the flight, and now their careers are in jeopardy.
As for pure science, then drive a twenty-ton module for the sake of thirteen only Russia can afford experiments.

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Quote: Cosm22

For 2-3 years. If the second episode will not be filmed.

The rest will be filmed in the pavilions of Mosfilm?

Quote: Cosm22

Moving away from flying at the same time professionals who have put a fair amount of their lives on preparing for the flight, and now their careers are in jeopardy.

A professional is surrounded by these "non-professionals" and does not even know that his career is "under threat."

Even the wages were raised by the bastards. That would be silent and not rock the boat. They work in a hybrid manner.

Quote: Cosm22

As for pure science, then drive a twenty-ton module for the sake of thirteen only Russia can afford experiments.

13 are just those who are constantly on board. Damn, who breeds you hamsters like that? Go to the TsNIIMash website and see the quantity.

[Mityay65]

Greetings, dear
Is there any news on the Nuclon-Zeus project?
For example, did a reactor finally appear in metal, at least in the form of a model, for it? And should we wait for him at all?
They have been doing it for over 14 years. I understand, not your diocese, but Rosatom, but maybe they tell you something.

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Greetings, dear

Hey.

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Is there any news on the Nuclon-Zeus project?

At MAKS they demonstrated a model printed on a 3-D printer at a scale of 1:42.

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For example, did a reactor finally appear in metal, at least in the form of a model, for it? And should we wait for him at all?

Academician Koroteev, at a meeting of the Russian Academy of Sciences: "... for all the above technologies, results were obtained ... while some technologies were brought to the stage of immediate implementation, such as electroplasma engines, compact heat exchangers, others clearly demonstrated the possibility of their implementation and ways of further development, for example, a reactor and a system for converting heat into electricity .... "

And recently, photos of the reactor elements were shown on tests.

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They have been doing it for over 14 years. I understand, not your diocese, but Rosatom, but maybe they tell you something.

To me? Wow

[Mityay65]

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To me? laughing Uh.

I meant organizations as a gene. performer.

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recently, photos of the reactor's elements were shown on tests.

Wow, how it passed by me. Is there a link?

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Wow, how it passed by me. Is there a link?

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[Mityay65]

Thank you
Sorry to distract you at night with a question

[nobody75]

Justified - look for exoplanets.
Sincerely

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Justified - look for exoplanets.
Sincerely

On exoplanets, we plan to launch Spectr-UF in 2025. Automatic astrophysical observatory under the Ultraviolet project. Joint with Spain, Japan and ESA.

MLM-U "Science" has a more applied purpose - melting ultrapure crystals, work on a nuclear space electric motor, biological experiments.

[nobody75]

Let me, colleague, disagree. The cultivation of ultrapure crystals was practiced at the Mir station. However, the specialists faced not with defects caused by gravity, but with the absence of a more or less accurate growth model, since the wind rises in the stove.
Sincerely

[nobody75]

As for exoplanets, the Lyra-B experiment is planned, although it's interesting for me to look at the results of Drops-2 ...
Sincerely

[Mityay65]

Scolded what?
Maybe for the cause - while the idea looks like a failure.
And it is precisely because of you that the way to the outer planets is closed to us?

[nobody75]

Maybe for the cause - while the idea looks like a failure.

And what is the "failure"?
Sincerely

[Mityay65]

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And what is the "failure"?

Unrealizability when trying to carry out full-scale tests, judging by the statement of various comrades. As a result of the large spread of droplets and, accordingly, entrainment.
If you wrote on this topic here (or where else), can you give a link?
Best regards,

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Let me, colleague, disagree.

With what? With the fact that an electric vacuum furnace of the "Polizon" series is installed on "Science"?

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The cultivation of ultrapure crystals was practiced at the Mir station. However, the specialists faced not with defects caused by gravity, but with the absence of a more or less accurate growth model, since the wind rises in the stove.
Sincerely

Crystals are crystals of strife. Conducted the appropriate improvements.

[nobody75]

All modern furnaces in which crystals are grown are electric vacuum ones. Only the vacuum there is not the same as in QED.
Sincerely

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Only the vacuum there is not the same as in QED.

Read here https://tsniimash.ru/science/scientific-experiments-onboard-the-is-rs/cnts/experiments/vibrokristallizatsiya/

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and here https://tsniimash.ru/science/scientific-experiments-onboard-the-is-rs/cnts/experiments/vampir/

[nobody75]

Yes, when I was young, I worked with such furnaces for growing crystals ...
Sincerely

[Bykov.]

He fell yesterday in Norway?

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He fell yesterday in Norway?

The fragments of the module, not burnt out during the passage of dense layers of the atmosphere, rest on the ocean floor 3630 kilometers from the capital of New Zealand, Wellington.

[Bykov.]

It's a pity. Such a cool thing and just flooded in the ocean. But it was possible, after all, to bang with it on the bourgeoisie.

[nikvic46]

Science is designed to work in ten years. And the ISS will shut down in four years. This is such a waste of energy.

[Bykov.]

Maybe it will be dragged to ROSS later.

[Keer]

Gerasim did not drown himself along with Mumu, he lost control, and with communication, he had problems from birth.

[Keer]

I don't give a damn about the minus. The question arose: have you read Ivan, ours, Turgenev, or are you familiar with the plot from anecdotes and ditties?

[1536]

Fantastic! Docking, undocking, vault from orbit, launching a new module, mastering it, five working. If only everything went smoothly with "Science". And according to the years of launch - the first two modules were launched in the most difficult years, even if they touched the USSR, but they did not throw them away, did not drink away. In general, the era of any change passes and something new appears, when people work honestly every day and hour, no matter how trite it sounds.

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And according to the years of launch - the first two modules were launched in the most difficult years, even if it touched the USSR

Not quite so - the groundwork was the body of the Zvezda module, which was welded in 1982. The bodies of the FGB-1 and 2 modules were welded already in 1996. The designers simplified, as much as possible at that moment, the design of the spacecraft-module based on the TKS - and there were no others then. And if Zarya flew away on time, then the decision to remake FGB-2 into MLM, which seemed correct at the beginning of the XNUMXs (not to disappear the finished case), eventually provoked delays in its production (against the background of lack of money in the XNUMXs) and launch.

Today, a new design groundwork for the production of a new and modern orbital platform has been created.

Entry of the Progress MS-16 / SO-1 Pirs bundle into the atmosphere:

[Dzafdet]

Everything must end well. And then we have not had large launches for a long time. And the people are getting old and retiring. Cadres are everything, especially today!

[reserve]

What they wrote to me in the comments did not read. But the truth is mine. I said to bring this one out, but we still need to dock. How I was minus) Just think the ISS turned 45 degrees and the cosmonauts retired. Minus. Your kim jong-un is gaining 100 gold at the Olympiad)
And they talked about 3 more cases to see they were hiding.
Is that successful? I do not think!