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An-70 took off after a long break

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A video of the takeoff of the only existing model of the An-70 medium-range military transport aircraft appeared on the network. According to the likely author of the video, this is "the first takeoff of the An-70 after a long stay of the aircraft." It is worth noting that there have been no new images of the transporter in the air since December 2019.


Most likely, the flight, which took place on July 23, 2021, was carried out as part of the so-called "planned overflights" of the aircraft, although some of the observers also suggest the possibility of the An-70 taking part in the celebrations marking the 30th anniversary of Ukraine's independence. The An-70 is missing on the recently published "air convoy flight pattern during the parade of troops dedicated to the Independence Day of Ukraine".

Despite the great potential, serial production of a transport aircraft for the needs of the armed forces is still impossible due to the abundance of Russian components. It is known that since 2015, certain work has been carried out in this direction. In particular, recently representatives of Ivchenko Progress State Enterprise announced the start of modernization of D-27 engines with new blades.


For reference: An-70 made its first flight in 1994. A few years later, all orders for this transport, which had originally come from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, were canceled.
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  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 July 2021 06: 34
    +37
    And what were the fools missing? We would live as before, trade duty-free, receive orders, earn money. We would develop the economy and industry and what is left of it ... But there is a silver lining. But now we know that former brothers value most of all .. The opportunity to be a servant.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 27 July 2021 09: 58
      +13
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      But now we know what the former brothers value the most ..
      Well, the nationalist elite and the Ukrainian people are different sides of the "Slavic Brotherhood" medal. Although, if nothing changes in the political orientation and passivity of the Ukrainian people, then in a couple of decades, for the most part, we will have, if not enemies, but offended “not brothers”.
    2. Potomac
      Potomac 27 July 2021 13: 19
      -11
      You can see everything from your bell tower. For the majority in Ukraine, the Maidan was not understandable and unnecessary. Everything would have ended, as in 2004, now there would be a pro-Russian president again. And anti-Russian sentiments in society, this is after the Crimea and Donbass.
      1. spech
        spech 27 July 2021 13: 25
        +5
        Will you stop raving about "the Russian president" or can you name your surname?
      2. russ71
        russ71 27 July 2021 14: 32
        +10
        Brad!
        Anti-Russian sentiments began to grow immediately after the declaration of independence! Nazinalism (with great Western support) began to be taught in schools. This generation has grown up and made the Maidan under the strict guidance (again from the West)!

        And there were no pro-Russian presidents there! They behaved like Lukashenka in his time (although, finally, the dad changed his mind!).
        1. Potomac
          Potomac 27 July 2021 15: 36
          -9
          Kravchuk and the same Yanukovych were more than focused on the Russian Federation.
          1. Roman_vh
            Roman_vh 27 July 2021 16: 40
            +8
            Do not make me laugh. It may seem so from the banks of the Potomac, but we know better here. Conversations that "Muscovites dotted the fat" were long before the appearance of this misunderstanding "the state of Ukraine"
    3. Dimon-chik-79
      Dimon-chik-79 27 July 2021 16: 49
      +5
      But Crimea is ours!) As they say, there is a silver lining! And then, who knows how everything will turn out. Maybe soon we will say our Kiev))) joke) but in every joke) ...
      But it is really a pity that we did not have a union state, because we are one people with a single history and our potential is great and new ANs would fly now, everything was ready for joint serial production there.
  2. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 27 July 2021 06: 40
    +7
    about Ukraine or good or nothing
    1. tatarin1972
      tatarin1972 27 July 2021 06: 55
      +11
      Nothing but the truth, the exact ending of the saying.
      1. serg.shishkov2015
        serg.shishkov2015 27 July 2021 09: 56
        +3
        I was waiting for this answer! And the truth will be extremely unpleasant! I fully support the first comment! I wrote about it myself a couple of years ago!
        1. tatarin1972
          tatarin1972 27 July 2021 11: 12
          +9
          I don’t want to talk well about people who have deliberately turned into idiots for 25 years.
          1. serg.shishkov2015
            serg.shishkov2015 27 July 2021 11: 21
            +5
            I absolutely agree with you!
          2. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 27 July 2021 13: 33
            +3
            I support. Regarding the differences between the "Ukrainian people" and the "Ukrainian elite" I would like to ask: "Who voted for the elite?" The answer is obvious - the Ukrainian people. Regarding the Crimea and Donbass-Ukrainians in the future, there will be a lesson for several generations-there was nothing to wave dirty trousers and humiliate the population of these regions. Still got off easy, Selyuk. Could have lost three more southern regions. But after the words of the GDP "leave with what you came with", the chances of losing the listed regions increase sharply. Even the godfather Medvedchuk was offended ... Nothing ... will go crazy ..
            And this is not evening, as they say .... It is quite possible that with the approval of Merkel and Macron, the troops will enter Ukraine "in order to ensure the implementation of the Steinmeier formula." They will rock ...
            1. tatarin1972
              tatarin1972 27 July 2021 14: 21
              +2
              In the light of the last 40 years and serving in the ranks of the Soviet Navy at the end of the Empire, I developed a stoic antagonism towards Ukraine and the people living in it. I don't want to have anything to do with them.
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich 27 July 2021 16: 15
                +1
                In the light of the past 25 years in marriage and being familiar with most of my wife's relatives, I developed a similar reflex. But I am more categorical - I will not sit on one field ... well, you understand me ..
                1. tatarin1972
                  tatarin1972 27 July 2021 16: 39
                  +2
                  Relatives are the same, they live in the Lviv region.
                  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 July 2021 17: 03
                    +2
                    Eka for you on Sputnik, no luck .. I have it in Kherson. Yes, and one .... they strive to sit on two chairs. Some kind of spinelessness.
    2. bistrov.
      bistrov. 28 July 2021 15: 24
      +1
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      about Ukraine or good or nothing

      Enough, "shut up," under the USSR, a huge number of Ukrainian deserters from the Red Army and draft evasion in the summer of 1941 were hushed up. Ukrainian nationalism, its crimes and service on the side of the Hitlerite Wehrmacht and the Reich special services. Farming and covering up latently ripening nationalist sentiments in Ukrainian society in the 70-80s of the last century. Where did these Andropovs and Kryuchkovs look? It's time to call things by their proper names: the whole history of the so-called. "Ukraine" and its population testifies to opportunism and outright betrayal. The creation by the Bolsheviks in 1922 of the so-called. The Ukrainian SSR and the transfer of vast territories of Russian lands together with the Russian population to it, and then huge investments at the expense of Russia, a gross mistake, if not an outright betrayal of the interests of Russia. Stop scattering Russian lands, our great-grandfathers, grandfathers and fathers shed rivers of blood for them. All Russian lands must be returned by any means and means.
      1. Diverter
        Diverter 29 July 2021 17: 27
        +1
        Still you confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs! In 1939-1940, the western territories were forcibly annexed to the USSR to Belaya Rus and to the outskirts. After the beginning of the Second World War, the inhabitants of these territories did what you wrote. The same is with the "Tribaltic cats". Unfortunately, you are right, during the times of the Soviet Union these territories did not become native. After him, the infection spread to all the outskirts.
  3. Cananecat
    Cananecat 27 July 2021 06: 43
    +3
    If the entire Antonov took off, it would be interesting, although for some even the flight of one plane is already a temporary event ... laughing
  4. NDR-791
    NDR-791 27 July 2021 06: 44
    +11
    In vain it was repaired on the "Flight" (read on a new one). The feed was not in the horse

    1. ghby
      ghby 27 July 2021 11: 01
      +4
      Quote: NDR-791
      In vain it was repaired on the "Flight" (read on a new one).

      Here's the video
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 27 July 2021 11: 24
        +6
        There is no landing video. I flopped onto the field at six in the morning, winter, dark. And I myself saw how they were dragged to the plant - stood in a traffic jam
  5. Evil 55
    Evil 55 27 July 2021 06: 48
    +1
    Side 02 is blue ... So, somewhere there may be 01 ..
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 27 July 2021 06: 53
      +13
      Quote: Angry 55
      .So, somewhere there may be 01 ..

      Can't do it anymore.
      On February 10, 1995, during the fourth test flight, the first experimental An-70 was lost as a result of a loss of control and a collision with an escort aircraft. The second prototype No. 01-02 was put into testing in 1997.
      This one on 01-02 and in Omsk fell, was recreated from scratch and given to "not brothers". In the video, he is with the onboard 02.
      1. Evil 55
        Evil 55 27 July 2021 07: 05
        +8
        An extremely long series, however ... wassat Well, now the "jumpers" cannot, without the master's will, bring something pathway to its logical conclusion.
        1. Volkof
          Volkof 28 July 2021 00: 40
          0
          During the downtime, or rather the An-70, this board, in general, lost its airworthiness certificate in Ukraine .... It is necessary to re-conduct tests, which parade? Apart from test flights, he cannot fly ...
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 27 July 2021 06: 53
      +6
      The An-70 is missing from the recently published "air convoy flight pattern during the parade of troops for the Independence Day of Ukraine".

      Afraid that it would fall on the heads of the celebrants? Well, the remaining aircraft do not exclude this possibility.
    3. Sergeantpro
      Sergeantpro 27 July 2021 15: 45
      +2
      Ummm ... no.
  6. Doccor18
    Doccor18 27 July 2021 07: 05
    +6
    An-70 took off ...

    It is a pity that not from our airfield, not from our aerospace forces ...
    1. Adler77
      Adler77 27 July 2021 07: 14
      +6
      Yes, it is a pity. Ready aircraft, replacement of An 12 and 22…. Sadness.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 27 July 2021 07: 21
        +6
        Quote: Adler77
        The finished plane ...

        Not that it’s straight “ready”, it still needs to be finished, but by joint efforts ... I would have been flying for the good of the countries long ago.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 27 July 2021 07: 28
        +11
        Why sadness, there would be a desire to do it themselves. They are using our developments, they are going to produce the Su-27 and MiG-29, though I think they don’t have enough intelligence or money for this. We have every right to make any car from the An line, these are Soviet developments.
  7. askort154
    askort154 27 July 2021 07: 13
    +7
    Despite the great potential, the serial production of a transport aircraft for the needs of the armed forces while impossible due to the abundance of Russian components.

    The word "yet" is not appropriate. And "impossible" - in the bull's-eye.
    They have already tried to lure foreigners to join their share of reproduction of the An-70, but there were no willing ones.
    1. mark1
      mark1 27 July 2021 07: 19
      +12
      In addition to 90% of Russian components, there is another 50% of Russian intellectual property (although such a "trifle" has never bothered Ukraine.)
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 27 July 2021 08: 48
        +7
        Here just now they wrote that the comedian became to see in relation to the EU: they say no friendship of the chewing gum is expected ..., in my opinion, they are mistaken: there are too many still dreaming. You don't have to be seven spans in your forehead to understand: the West simply will not allow a competitive product to appear, and no one will talk to 404s.
        It's even a pity the plane, but no luck ...
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 July 2021 07: 23
    +3
    Glass fools for a while, ditch.
  9. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 27 July 2021 07: 50
    +11
    Well, to maintain one single board in flight condition, they succeed.
    But about the prospects for production - this is unlikely.
    Firstly, from the very beginning, he did not envisage assembly at Ukrainian factories,
    And secondly, the same Airbus took everything he could from this project long ago and made his own plane, which he successfully sells.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 27 July 2021 08: 05
      -9
      Wasn't such an experimental plane crashed on takeoff in Irkutsk on a residential building and killed a lot of people?
      1. faiver
        faiver 27 July 2021 08: 33
        +8
        in Irkutsk Ruslan fell, with two fighters on board, if my memory serves me ...
        1. tech3030
          tech3030 27 July 2021 10: 02
          +2
          And it seems that these fighters were not there.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 27 July 2021 08: 49
        +6
        An-124 collapsed there, if we are talking about the same catastrophe
      3. Avis
        Avis 27 July 2021 09: 07
        +4
        Quote: Alexander 3
        Wasn't such an experimental plane crashed on takeoff in Irkutsk on a residential building and killed a lot of people?

        An-124 fell there. Serial through and through. The most likely reason is engine surging due to a violation of the airframe.
        1. Alexander Seklitsky
          Alexander Seklitsky 27 July 2021 10: 52
          0
          no there was a little bit of water with some water.
          1. Avis
            Avis 27 July 2021 11: 16
            +4
            This is the "motor-Sichevites" waving their fists after the fight, a very emotional article in a specialized magazine from the designer. Water analysis is the first thing that is done in such a disaster. If there had been water, the investigation would have ended immediately. And the water does not lead to surging, to which the D-18 are prone and without any violations of the Airplane Flight Manual. Even under normal conditions, D-18 is recommended to warm up for three minutes even on the executive ("VDA" because of this had many claims abroad) to fully develop the compressor clearances. The TMRs on the D-18 are such that they are not afraid of any ice.
        2. Pavel the builder
          Pavel the builder 28 July 2021 12: 56
          0
          That AN-124, which was carrying two fighters to the exhibition, took off through the steam exhaust of a thermal power plant, where there is a lot of water and no oxygen ... then the takeoff course was changed from the Irkutsk airfield
        3. Diverter
          Diverter 29 July 2021 17: 38
          0
          there is a bike saying that there were supposedly two dryers for export. but they did not have time to make them by the time of delivery and this threatened with colossal fines and the cancellation of a major contract. Well, they dropped the board, like - force majeure. HZ of course, but in those years anything could be.
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 27 July 2021 08: 55
      +5
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      keep one single board in flight condition, they do it ..

      It seems to me that all this is most likely a profanation for internal use: keep flying this is to be driven much more often than once every few years - once a week, so the following requirements were received during the pandemic. For the rest: it was a good project - amen
  10. antikilller55
    antikilller55 27 July 2021 07: 58
    +3
    While flying, but for how long.
  11. svp67
    svp67 27 July 2021 08: 28
    +15
    although some of the observers also suggest the possibility of participation of the An-70 in the celebrations of the 30th anniversary of Ukraine's independence.
    Hmm, an airplane built with RUSSIAN MONEY for the Russian Aerospace Forces ... So we got the result of the "wise foreign policy to support the" brothers "". As a result, our own school of transport aircraft construction was destroyed, what year the light Il-112 has been "tormenting". they only dream of an average Il-276 or a heavy replacement An-124 ... And the created plane remained with the enemies
  12. faiver
    faiver 27 July 2021 08: 34
    +4
    aircraft for almost a quarter of a century ...
  13. Errr
    Errr 27 July 2021 08: 40
    +16
    In particular, recently representatives of Ivchenko Progress State Enterprise announced the start of modernization of D-27 engines with new blades.
    I don’t know what kind of "new blades" the D-27 will have lol , but let now the representatives of the State Enterprise "Ivchenko Progress" try at least with something to replace the handsome SV-27 propfan (together with the hydromechanical regulator RSV-27) produced by the famous Stupinsky Research and Production Enterprise "Aerosila", which is in the picture below.
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 27 July 2021 13: 24
      +2
      make them according to "European" standards
      1. Errr
        Errr 27 July 2021 15: 16
        +2
        Not everything is as simple as we would like. Ratier-Figeac propellers (in the photo Airbus A400M in your comment) with a diameter of 5,3 meters can be used on engines with a capacity of 11000 hp or less. (for example TP400-D6 from Europrop International, which is in the above picture), and the D-27 develops as much as 13240 hp in takeoff mode. At the same time, the SV-27 from Aerosila has a noticeably smaller diameter - only 4,5 meters. Therefore, the Ukrainian designers of the Volens-Nevolens will have to compose something similar to the SV-27 complete with the RSV-27, or it is stupid to copy and paste Stupa products.
        In conclusion, a quote for a more complete picture of this issue:
        In flight tests of the aircraft [An-70] the possibility of operation of the aircraft with poorly prepared unpaved areas 600 meters long has been proved, even if there will be up to 20 tons of cargo on board the aircraft. Obtaining the specified characteristics is provided, first of all, by a unique power plant - the D-27 engine (Zaporozhye) and the SV-27 propfan (manufactured by JSC NPP Aerosila, Stupino, Russia); attempts to create this kind of power plants were undertaken by various engine-building companies of the world, but only this project was actually implemented. The takeoff power of the power plant is 14 liters. with. Due to the very high degree of air compression in the compressor (k = 000), high efficiency is achieved (at maximum take-off weights, the hourly fuel consumption for four power plants is 30-3,5 tons).
        Coaxial propellers provide a high-pressure air stream that flows around the wing at a speed exceeding the oncoming flow, which leads to an increase in the lift of the wing, and the extended flaps (by 60 degrees in the landing position) create the effect of turning the thrust vector. Thus, when approaching with flaps fully extended more than half of the lifting force on the wing arises due to power blowing, and the smaller one is due to the incoming flow.
        When testing the aircraft at high angles of attack, Cy> 7 (Cy is the ratio of the lift force to the air velocity head). For comparison, on existing aircraft, the maximum realized Cy is of the order of 2-3.
        Source: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ан-70#Конструкция
        1. Eug
          Eug 27 July 2021 21: 21
          0
          The mattresses were presented with a 3D printer for the production of LVV Mi-24 sections. Perhaps it can be used for the production of SV-27 blades. But, as for me, the main problem with this aircraft is to find a customer for it and leave the Russian equipment.
        2. Avis
          Avis 28 July 2021 13: 19
          0
          Quote: Herrr
          (Cy is the ratio of the lifting force to the velocity air pressure)

          Well, not a damn thing, "discovery" ... Zhukovsky in his coffin went to gyroscopic revolutions.
  14. Sergeantpro
    Sergeantpro 27 July 2021 15: 41
    +1
    Quote: russ71
    Anti-Russian sentiments began to grow immediately after the declaration of independence!

    In fact, they began to do this long before the collapse of the USSR.
    1. iouris
      iouris 27 July 2021 16: 33
      0
      There was no Russia before the collapse of the USSR. More precisely, Russia was the USSR, and Ukraine was Russia.
      1. Sergeantpro
        Sergeantpro 27 July 2021 16: 37
        +3
        On the territory of the Ukrainian SSR, back in the late 80s, public organizations of the USA and Europe operated quite legally with anti-Russian propaganda. Even under the Soviet Union, the leaps on Ukrainian independence began - "enough to feed the Muscovites," and the Donetsk coal basin jumped (all of a sudden) above all.
        1. iouris
          iouris 27 July 2021 16: 39
          0
          This is different. This was organized from Moscow.
  15. Sergeantpro
    Sergeantpro 27 July 2021 16: 00
    0
    Quote: Avis
    engine surge

    EMNIP, the D-18T from childhood had problems with gas-dynamic stability, which were never solved later.
    1. Avis
      Avis 28 July 2021 13: 06
      +1
      Quote: Sergeantpro
      Quote: Avis
      engine surge

      EMNIP, the D-18T from childhood had problems with gas-dynamic stability, which were never solved later.

      Right. This is what I wrote about in another sub-thread:
      water does not lead to surging, to which D-18s are prone and without any violations of the flight control panel. Even under normal conditions, D-18 is recommended to warm up for three minutes even on the executive ("VDA" because of this had many claims abroad) to fully develop the compressor clearances.
  16. Sergeantpro
    Sergeantpro 27 July 2021 16: 40
    0
    Quote: iouris
    This is different

    Somewhere I already heard it))
  17. Looking for
    Looking for 27 July 2021 16: 40
    0
    Rotten all. But freshly painted !!!
    1. Sergeantpro
      Sergeantpro 27 July 2021 16: 43
      0
      Guess what sticks to the paint?
      I remembered an anecdote from the student's MAI-shny past about fastening the wing on the principle of toilet paper.
      1. Avis
        Avis 28 July 2021 13: 09
        0
        Quote: Sergeantpro
        Guess what sticks to the paint?

        Quite about something else, but, in my opinion, it's still in the subject:
        “Maybe we could do a thorough check and then…” He waved his hand reassuringly.
        - Checking will give nothing. The plane is too old - the whole thing. If we start to do something about it, then it turns out that we need new wings, fuselage, tail, engines ... a new plane. I checked it and fixed everything that might fail, but the whole plane is holding up thanks to rust and habit - and even the rust has now partially fallen off. Well, maybe he'll last long enough thanks to habit.
        © Gavin Lyall "Skirmish Scenario"
  18. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 27 July 2021 19: 11
    +4
    Nice plane ... It's a pity that the idiots got it. Although, purely legally, skakuasiya does not have the slightest right to any Soviet development and design bureau (as well as factories). The heir to the USSR is Russia, which is why Russia paid off huge debts to the USSR, but for some reason was unable to recover a dime from the debtors. And not a single "former republic of the USSR" has paid a penny out of the USSR's debts, but only demanded money. So, according to the mind, it would be correct to produce in Russia any An aircraft of interest to us, power plants for ships, etc. The legal right to all this belongs to Russia. Although in reality we see how mattress makers distribute the rights to repair Soviet equipment to just anyone and are not worried about intellectual property issues, like any other similar vile bandits.
  19. Serge_
    Serge_ 27 July 2021 20: 10
    0
    I read comments and am amazed at people's opinions. I myself am from Ukraine and I can assure you that we have many excellent people. There are, of course, those to whom I would never give a hand in my life. There are also stubborn Natsiks, their minority, and lately it is getting smaller and smaller. Natsiks can still be re-educated by sending them to forced labor, but there is one category of people who cannot be re-educated - these are persons of Jewish nationality. These gentlemen are responsible for all the troubles in Ukraine. A lot of them have moved to Ukraine over the past seven years. These gentlemen, through the Servant of the People and Zelensky, pushed through the land sale and are now actively buying up land in Ukraine.
    1. rotfuks
      rotfuks 28 July 2021 01: 29
      +2
      I read on one site that there is such a global project on the transfer of an entire state to the territory of Ukraine. It must be admitted that the current territory of Israel was not chosen because of a better life and not entirely successfully. The climate is harsh and the evil Palestinians are close at hand. The Ukrainians are much more agreeable than the Palestinians. Perhaps the think tank will remain in the former territories, while in Ukraine there will be a semblance of a working zone. It is not for nothing that such support of the Ukraine project comes from the USA. About 40 years ago, not all Americans knew about the existence of Ukraine.
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  20. Eug
    Eug 27 July 2021 21: 15
    0
    I wonder who will be the customer for this aircraft now? Europe has a much more economical (due to the lack of a KVP requirement) and already a serial A-400 - although there are problems with cracks in the engine gearbox housing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation refused it, the staff members did not express much interest from the very beginning, Ukraine already 3 (!) I ordered An-178 .. I don't see the future ..
  21. Pavel the builder
    Pavel the builder 28 July 2021 12: 51
    0
    The stratification of Ukrainian society into workers who left the country long ago, who went to Europe who went to Russia ... the ruling elite and some oligarchs who sponsor them and the working class, peasants and a thick layer of commercial business with a smear of intelligentsia
  22. Dimon-SPG
    Dimon-SPG 29 July 2021 08: 37
    0
    Antonov - Spent. It's just that it has not yet reached everyone.
  23. Diverter
    Diverter 29 July 2021 17: 41
    0
    and took off beautifully all the same. well, and> <.. with him. We will give our own and better.