1520. Mine under Russian Railways

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As a prologue or prelude.

A mine under the rails is something eternal. And it symbolizes military operations behind enemy lines, when partisans or saboteurs mine railway tracks and derail trains.



Today is a peaceful time, but ...

But the trains began to fly, although no explosions were heard. And I would like to talk about what is happening today in the system of Russian railways. For these two steel parallel lines of ours are one of the symbols of orderliness and stability.

Indeed, what is a railway in our understanding? From trains leaving and arriving on time, to polite and pretty conductors and tea in cup holders.

Yes, to some people the structure of Russian Railways may seem to be something so unshakable that it is impossible to destroy it. And if necessary, our railways will become a real help in delivering, for example, military cargo to wherever it is needed.

Since their inception in the world, railways have become the backbone of any state and its strategic resource. Until recently, it was the railways that were the cheapest to transport goods and move people in Russia.

The key word here is "was". And in this cycle I will try to highlight in detail everything that happens behind the beautiful signboard of Russian Railways, where the railway stations end and the stations and stretches begin.

For this, for quite a long time, I had to meet with various representatives of the railways. And here many surprises awaited me, which I will share in the process. Gradually, because when they opened another jar of secrets to me, it became commonplace to fall into a stupor with the words "But damn it, Holmes, HOW ???".

In general, of course, Russian Railways is still a world. I don't even know what to compare with in terms of the degree of closeness. It is not only that the work is strange, but also the graphics. But we can state the fact that I coped with the task and talked (and I will still) with representatives of all railway professions, from the very bottom. The exceptions were station chiefs and carriages. The first are not supposed to communicate according to their position, the second is almost impossible to catch sober. The costs of the profession, so to speak ... Well, or I just didn't succeed.

The world of railways is very specific and is fraught with many surprises.

The theater, as you know, begins with a coat rack. And the railway? From the station?

But no. A train station is not a railway. And the people who work at the station are not railway workers. Alas. Today it is a kind of commercial entity that provides you with train boarding services. Just like the conductor who meets you at the carriage and spends with you all the time of your trip in the carriage, this is not a railway either.

Someone will not stand it now and will decide that I have completely lost my mind, and it's time to call a doctor with a syringe filled with an unclear substance. No, alas, it is.

And where does the railway start?

Go to the edge of the platform and look down. Where the edge of the sleeper begins, among the scattered cigarette butts and stains of oil and diesel fuel (or worse), there begins what is today the Railroad. The Station begins there.


And there they begin stories, which, I hope, will make many look differently at this human man who knows neither weekends nor holidays. Living by his own very strange laws.

By the way, about the strangeness of the laws. I wanted to start with one very instructive incident. It happened not so long ago in Anapa, more precisely, in Vityazevo. And ended in tragedy. The three local degenerates on the Land Cruiser were in a hurry. And therefore, as it was seen on the recordings of the DVRs of other cars, ignoring the queue in front of the traffic light, prohibiting signals, having entered the oncoming lane, they decided to "slip through".

It didn't work out. Naturally, the train dragged the remains of the car for almost half a kilometer and it was stupid to talk about survivors. The backseat passenger survived, lucky. Will remain crippled, but alive. The owner of the car and his friend entered the line for the Darwin Prize. Deservedly and absolutely without regret, in such a situation it is necessary to regret only the driver and his assistant, who definitely get psychological trauma in such a situation.

1520. Mine under Russian Railways


The media usually write in such cases that "the driver applied emergency braking, but ...".

Alas. Not a single driver in his right mind will urgently brake in this case. And I highly recommend everyone reading this to remember this: if you decide to "slip through", neither the driver of the freight train, nor the passenger will urgently slow down. I was very much asked to do this by those who shared information.

There are several reasons here. The first is the passengers. In the car there can be from one to five people who want to go to the next world. There are tens of times more people in the carriages of the train who can be injured and beaten during emergency braking. Responsibility for the life and health of passengers lies with the driver. They (the idiots) and only themselves are responsible for the idiots at the move.


The second reason for emergency braking is if the train was traveling fast and braking well, sliders form on the wheels.



This is physics, as a result of which the entire squad can play a repair.

And with freight trains it is even more interesting. The driver is responsible for the cargo that can move, break down, the cars can go off the rails altogether because of this ...

So those who like to "slip through", always hurrying to the next world, should remember that there will be no emergency braking, your metal coffin will be dragged for half a kilometer (or even more), as in Vityazevo, under the vigorous crunch of metal and bones.

And to be honest, emergency braking will not help. A train is a train, you can't just stop it. Physics, you know. That is why, within the Russian Railways system itself, there is such an agreement between the drivers and their leaders: the drivers do not tear the brakes and nerves, the authorities do not pursue them for another crumpled tin can at the next crossing. Well, yes, psychological support for the driver is guaranteed.

So really, we follow the rules at level crossings, we respect and appreciate the drivers, we do not spoil the property of Russian Railways and the nerves of passengers. And everything will be beautiful.

But that was just a saying. So to speak, for the introduction. Just as an example of the fact that in words one thing, but in deeds another. The main story begins only now.

Perhaps for some (as well as for me including) everything said further will become some kind of nonsense, but alas, this is so.

Railways, the symbol of which was the Ministry of Railways, the Ministry of Railways, were really considered something like that, unshakable and eternal. The stations are standing still, the trains arrive on time (almost) and leave the same way. And from Kaliningrad you can get to Vladivostok. Slower than by plane, but more interesting and cheaper.

Yes, that's how it was.

Now there is no Ministry of Railways, there is JSC Russian Railways, 49% of which is owned by the state. And the manager is Oleg Belozerov, who, as you understand, is not a railroad worker.

But it normal. The last cosmonaut (Sergei Krikalev) was recently removed from Roskosmos from the senior management staff; there are no teachers or professors in the Ministry of Education and Science. In general, this is a normal trend for Russia.

We can talk a lot about the indicators that Russian Railways is demonstrating under Belozerov, but now we will not operate with figures. Somewhat later. We must pay tribute to him, he did a lot of interesting things to improve the work of the railway, including in the fight against corruption, which bloomed in full bloom in the structure.

We will talk about the fact that, unfortunately, the railway is subject to the most terrible influence in Russian reality. The name for this nightmare is optimization. And it is optimization that better than any mines can derail not only the composition - the entire structure of Russian railways.

In our time, the railway is still the same as a hundred years ago, it is the main way of transferring troops and equipment to the desired direction. By the way, the recent exercises in Crimea showed many problems in the structure of Russian Railways, associated with the passage of additional trains with equipment and personnel.


Alas, we still have no other means of communication. Yes, you can carry people and, for example, wheeled artillery pieces. Easy. But what is on the tracks is no longer there. Tanks from Nizhny Tagil will not go on their own to the western borders. More precisely, they will go, but most likely they will not. The resource will not start up. Trailers, of course, are an option, but alas, not one that can solve the problem.

Well, our country is too long, you know. So - just rely on two parallel lines.

And this cycle is planned about these two lines.

About how people of the railway generally work today, in modern conditions. How pleasant the optimization was and why suddenly the trains began to derail or get into accidents more and more often. What are the main problems of Russian Railways today (although here we can definitely say that the personnel) and how they are trying to solve them.

Why do trains still leave and arrive on time, and who is to blame that the system works in spite of everything, including common sense.

The main examples and conclusions will be presented by employees of the Moscow, South-Eastern and North-Caucasian Railways, but at the moment contact has been established with representatives of the Trans-Baikal and Northern Railways.

Actually, all these people who work on very strange schedules (more on this separately, because schedules are the main reason for many outrages), not that miners, but yes, they walk through a minefield during working hours. And today the railway (like many other things in the country) is a kind of field for experiments both on people and on the entire structure as a whole.

You know how to cut a land mine. Will it explode or not? And, of course, the main reason for the experiments is Her Majesty's Profit, which goes into the pockets of shareholders. And the employees are so, the fifth question, nothing more.

And all would be fine, we have ropes of workers everywhere, and the larger the company, the harder it happens. Gazprom, Rosneft, Sberbank, Lukoil and so on and on to infinity. Different corporate colors, different methods. The essence is the same.

But here's the problem: oil and gas companies, banks - all of them are not the structures on which national security is based. Considering the state of our cargo shipping (none at all), how “cheap” air transportation of our private airlines has become, all that can be counted on in the event of a military situation is road and rail transport.

And if we speak seriously, then only to the railway, because this state does not have its own road carriers. They stayed in the USSR. So if we can count on something, then yes, only on Russian Railways.

And that's what is happening inside one of the largest entities remaining under the control of the state, and will be discussed.


I think it will be interesting, at least everyone will be able to appreciate the processes that take place behind the scenes of gray-red color. Or in a track of 1520 mm.
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  1. +23
    27 July 2021 15: 15
    A lot of letters ... and everything was gone, but the specifics (except for emergency braking) are zero
    1. +52
      27 July 2021 15: 21
      This is a prelude. So far, it has been indicated that the driver is acting legally and justifiably by crushing autodegenerates and all other subhumans on the rails.
      1. +12
        27 July 2021 15: 28
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        This is a prelude. So far, it has been indicated that the driver is acting legally and justifiably by crushing autodegenerates and all other subhumans on the rails.

        In a very bad case, the UK may have its own opinion regarding the actions of the driver + articles from the Criminal Code will be added. And the opinion of the railway management in this case will not be interesting to anyone.
        If anything - the minus is not from me!
        PS: I realized a long time ago in my life that the management will always come up with any garbage, but
        in which case - only about his jo ... will grieve. And the performer is usually the first to be handed out. De facto, de jure, the current state of affairs ... You need to think in advance and not get involved in such work ...
        1. +31
          27 July 2021 16: 19
          Quote: Flashpoint
          In a very bad case, the UK may have its own opinion regarding the actions of the driver + articles from the Criminal Code will be added. And the opinion of the railway management in this case will not be interesting to anyone.

          No "the driver is being dragged into the courts!"
          Due to the huge stopping distance of the train, the driver is helpless in trying not to interrupt the life of another unique person who still does not want to leave the gauge of the rolling stock (that is, get out of the way), and the mass turns the train into a guillotine.
          1. +3
            27 July 2021 16: 32
            Quote: Bashkirkhan
            Quote: Flashpoint
            In a very bad case, the UK may have its own opinion regarding the actions of the driver + articles from the Criminal Code will be added. And the opinion of the railway management in this case will not be interesting to anyone.

            Due to the huge stopping distance of the train, the driver is helpless in trying not to interrupt the life of another unique person who still does not want to leave the gauge of the rolling stock (that is, get out of the way), and the mass turns the train into a guillotine.

            Yes, this is all clear. There are many factors. When and how braking was applied.
            Visibility. Reaction time and decision making. There are very bad cases. There is a freight train. A car goes to the railway crossing, slows down, accelerates again and stops right on the tracks. To cars 600-700 meters. The driver sees. There are no measures, 500 meters. There are no measures, the car jerks forward a little, that's it.
            A passenger runs out and to the driver - and there a man under 60 caught either a heart attack, or something else - but it really got bad ... Until then, while this, the children are fastened in the car and the woman is still hysterical ... did not have time...

            And friends have a real case in Belarus. We flew right under the train. The son was 20 years old at the wheel. KAAAAAKKKK not to see the freight train and the emergency lights ..... Lucky, we got a buffer in the trunk and flew away, everyone is alive, even without serious injuries and fractures. The car is in the trash. Fine, deprivation of rights.
            1. +5
              28 July 2021 17: 48
              It all depends on the speed and weight of the train. The braking distance during emergency braking of the train with a gross weight of 3500 tons (50-55 loaded wagons plus the main locomotive) at a speed of 80 km / h is 800 meters. Stations and crossings are built on straight sections of the track from the entrance to the exit traffic lights. Crossings are guarded (with barriers, light and sound alarms and a crossing officer) and unguarded. It happened that locomotive mechanics who hit them (the drivers remained on the locomotives, now this profession is called a locomotive mechanic) received a heart attack or a phase shift. After that, they were suspended from work by a medical commission. To determine whether the mechanic of the locomotive could avoid a collision or not, they check the speed meter tape. When I saw (at what distance), when I applied emergency braking, the braking distance. Check the visibility of the signal - whether the traffic light head is correctly configured, is visible or the signal is not at the desired distance
              1. -1
                1 August 2021 15: 31
                The driver was called a mechanic just on the steam locomotive, because there used to be nothing but mechanics. And now it is a machinist.
                1. -1
                  1 August 2021 15: 45
                  Come to any PM and ask. PM is short for Part of thrust. Previously, the railway was a paramilitary organization and all of its divisions were called Part. FC-part of track facilities, SH-part of communication, ECH-part of servicing electric traction, NMS-part serving civil structures of the railway, and so on. Workers on diesel locomotives, on electric locomotives - electromechanics are called mechanics.
                  1. -2
                    1 August 2021 15: 47
                    Not the thrust part, but the Traction part, etc.
                    You will tell me, the railwayman, here still ...
                    1. 0
                      1 August 2021 15: 58
                      You do not look like a railwayman in your comments. I worked on the railroad for 27 years, often in Form 3 I went to damage in the cabins of locomotives. An appeal to the locomotive radio station: "The mechanic of the NNNN locomotive is approaching the NNN station, the entrance traffic light is open, follow the main track at the set speed. The exit traffic light is open. Have a good trip." Answer: “I am such and such a mechanic, I understand you, the entrance traffic light is open, the exit traffic light is open, I am following the main track at a set speed.” Or can you tell me what a reserve is?
                    2. 0
                      1 August 2021 16: 02
                      Here is Yoshkin bast shoe, another special minus! There is nothing to argue, so at least he will do nasty, minus will slap
      2. -2
        27 July 2021 15: 40
        crushing autodegenerates and all sorts of other subhumans

        Sarcasm, I hope. Okay, driver, passengers - what's to blame?
        1. +8
          27 July 2021 16: 33
          Deer with elk accidentally found themselves on the rails, too, are not to blame, but what to do. The passengers are of course a pity.crying

        2. Alf
          +2
          27 July 2021 18: 52
          Quote: Hwostatij
          crushing autodegenerates and all sorts of other subhumans

          Sarcasm, I hope. Okay, driver, passengers - what's to blame?

          And the passengers will not tell the driver-Eh, bro, and we, like, where?
          1. 0
            27 July 2021 18: 56
            And the passengers will not tell the driver-Eh, bro, and we, like, where?

            Yes, to make a complaint to the driver during a maneuver is +. You can, of course, but personally I do not advise laughing
            1. Alf
              +9
              27 July 2021 19: 01
              Quote: Hwostatij
              And the passengers will not tell the driver-Eh, bro, and we, like, where?

              Yes, to make a complaint to the driver during a maneuver is +. You can, of course, but personally I do not advise laughing

              Before the beginning. Usually, such an alternatively gifted one drives up in a cruiser, slows down, the barrier is lowered, there is a queue. Bro, I should stand there, let the fuckers stand, I'll slip through. And it is at this moment that the passengers, if they are not as developed, and must say, Vovan, are you like, where are you going?
          2. +5
            27 July 2021 20: 26
            And the passengers will not tell the driver-Eh, bro, and we, like, where?

            Passengers are different, they can, on the contrary, say "You're not a kid, you can’t drive the barrier. Give me more gas and that’s all."
            1. Alf
              +10
              27 July 2021 20: 42
              Quote: Dimy4
              And absolutely EVERYTHING comes!

              Straight after old man Darwin-Natural selection.
      3. +15
        27 July 2021 15: 59
        the machinist crushing autodegenerates and all sorts of other subhumans on the rails
        The train driver himself could not really explain how he ended up on Anna Karenina ...
      4. +12
        27 July 2021 16: 36
        This is a prelude.
        If the prelude is so long and voluminous, then, I'm afraid, not many will survive even until the middle of the cycle.
        1. +3
          29 July 2021 04: 52
          abrakadabre - Long "foreplay"? Yes, it may well end there - Mr. Skomorokhov somehow announced the consideration of Hitler's plan "Ost" for its coincidence with the current reality, but the announcement did not go further. How this time everything will turn out - we'll see, otherwise it turns out - "swing for a ruble, and a blow for a penny", and in general, will there be that "blow"?
      5. +3
        27 July 2021 16: 39
        [quote = Bashkirkhan]. So far, it has been indicated that the driver, crushing autodegenerates and all other subhumans on the rails, is acting legally and justifiably.
        It's not about legality and validity. The author correctly said - it's a matter of physics.
        = Physics, you know. That is why, within the Russian Railways system itself, there is such an agreement between the drivers and their leaders: the drivers do not tear the brakes and nerves, the authorities do not pursue them for another crumpled tin can at the next crossing. Well, yes, psychological support for the driver is guaranteed. =
        And there is no agreement between the drivers and their managers because such an agreement is unnecessary.
        It is practically impossible to stop a multi-ton train quickly, the "tin can" will still be opened, so the driver does not take emergency braking so as not to get sideways.
        1. -2
          28 July 2021 13: 38
          It is possible to push the vehicle out of the level crossing if it was equipped with a hook and winch. Then the driver activates this device remotely, via an electric radio channel. But so far they have not thought of such adaptations - although they are no different from elevator security systems, in principle. And even a person or a cow who has lost consciousness can be thrown aside with a rapidly rising shield. This will not rule out accidents altogether, but will reduce their number, especially if properly fined.
          I do not know the modern equipment of train cabins, but I think it is high time to have new items there in the form of night vision cameras, television surveillance of tracks and automatic feed of images from night vision cameras at the crossing to a separate screen. If I were a machinist, I would have had my own optics with me - a hunting monocular with night vision and night binoculars and day binoculars - it's so calmer ...
          1. +6
            29 July 2021 00: 29
            If you were a machinist, such nonsense would not occur to you. stop
            1. -2
              29 July 2021 01: 47
              If you were a machinist, such nonsense would not occur to you.

              From what? If you think about it, other moving equipment is still nonsense. The modern barrier is an adaptation from the 17th century, designed to stop a horse on a dirt track, even in heavy fog or rain. And it is used against a car against which other specialized special mechanisms have long been known ...
              1. +1
                29 July 2021 03: 50
                Yes, everything is clear, just a passenger.
          2. 0
            1 August 2021 15: 43
            When in the early 90s they were deciding what to do with the crossings, the idea was to put cameras on the crossings, and a TV in the driver's cab.
            The idea was rejected with anger by the Ministry of Railways, because in this case the driver will be responsible for a possible collision (after all, he will see the car at the crossing for a long time and theoretically have time to brake), and he has enough hassle without it. In addition, then the drivers (fearing responsibility) will slow down even if there is nothing at the crossing. And then goodbye to the schedule.
            Therefore, the current system with a rising shield before the move was adopted. In this system, the motorist himself is responsible for the life of the motorist, and not the train driver.
            So there have never been fools in the Ministry of Railways (now Russian Railways).
            1. 0
              1 August 2021 17: 20
              after all, he will see the car at the crossing for a long time and theoretically have time to brake


              This is not about shifting responsibility within the framework of "driver-motorist" - this is all the same already prescribed by law: everyone must always slow down.
              If there is a rising shield and a special television system, then you can see exactly an emergency situation - not just an approaching car, but either one that has already broken through this shield or flying towards it at a speed of "over 300" - well, or in a cheap version, induction sensors on the road before moving, which record exactly dangerous speeds and maneuvers. But these are all technical details and the problem is organizational. Therefore, sooner or later they will return to the problem and will solve it as necessary - to reduce the accident rate and not try to reduce everything to the removal of responsibility from the Ministry of Railways by limiting the driver's visibility range against the technically possible and achievable - in fact, bypassing the law.
              You can try to "unload" the driver from nervous tension, organizationally and automatically, and direct the released reserves of attention to solving the problems of road accidents.
        2. +2
          29 July 2021 05: 18
          Well, if you are confusing sliders and sliders ... What else is there to talk about ...
          Complete out)))
      6. +26
        27 July 2021 16: 54
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        This is a prelude. While it was indicated that the driver crushing autodegenerates and all other subhumans on the rails acts legally and justifiably.
        Which is fundamentally wrong. From 1982 to 1984, I myself worked as an assistant driver of a diesel locomotive and still maintain contacts with former colleagues. There is no tacit agreement between the management and the locomotive crews about - "you push, and we will cover." Departure from the instructions is equal to a meeting with the investigator and very likely, dismissal from work, with the acquisition of a prison sentence, and according to the instructions, if an obstacle is detected on the road, the driver must apply emergency braking so that the locomotive itself does not go downhill, which can lead to a derailment from the railroad tracks of the entire train moving by inertia, that is, the scale of the victims may become critically unacceptable. Replacing wheelsets with sliders will be much cheaper. As for the fact that the once single organism of the Ministry of Railways was torn apart into a bunch of all kinds of OJSCs and LLCs, then the author wrote everything correctly - these suckers are intended only for taking away part of the money by clever managers from the once single cash flow feeding part of the once not badly working state system ...
        1. +1
          27 July 2021 18: 52
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          From 1982 to 1984, I myself worked as an assistant driver of a diesel locomotive and still maintain contacts with former colleagues. There is no tacit agreement between the management and the locomotive crews about - "you push, and we will cover."

          I agree. Nevertheless, Skomorokhov's publication suggests a conclusion that in such situations, wheelsets must be protected by machinists in agreement with their superiors.
        2. +4
          28 July 2021 22: 12
          Dmitry, your most faithful comment about everything. This is exactly what Dad told me, he worked as a machinist at the Ministry of Railways, and at Russian Railways ... about "the authorities will cover" - either the author's fantasy, or "noodles" that they hung him ...
      7. +1
        29 July 2021 00: 05
        Prelude? Will there be spiers? Bo otherwise there is no sense in the prelude, but only ananism!
      8. Qas
        +2
        29 July 2021 01: 51
        And what has to do with JSC Russian Railways, about which the author tried to tell us here? And it would be better not to try, since it is far from JSC Russian Railways at a distance of a parsec. And the phrase: "... And that's what is happening inside one of the largest state-controlled entities, and will be discussed." ... after which, after a couple of lines, the story ends ... If it was an introduction, a prelude , the first part and it was necessary to indicate.
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      1. +10
        27 July 2021 15: 31
        Quote: Flashpoint
        A messy article!

        Perhaps because the author tried to outline all future topics, which he will later analyze in more detail and in more detail.
        IMHO, lately there has been no railway theme on VO for a long time. And the importance of railway in war and peacetime is difficult to overestimate.
      2. +5
        27 July 2021 17: 45
        and he has an article right there - 10 years on Military Review. laughing
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    4. +7
      27 July 2021 15: 29
      Quote: andr327
      Lots of letters ... and everything is gone

      That's the hell there ...
      I think it will be interesting at least everyone will be able to appreciate the processes that take place behind the scenes of gray-red color... Or in a track of 1520 mm.

      Evaluate how it is accepted and ...

      Now about the reasons. I believe she is here:
      Now there is no Ministry of Railways, there is JSC Russian Railways, 49% of the shares of which are owned by the state. And commanded by manager Oleg Belozerov, who, as you understand, is not a railroad worker.

      The trouble is, if the shoemaker starts to bake the pies ... ©
      And yet, in the pursuit of "it is necessary to snatch, while in office" some are ... waist-deep are all these difficulties and inconsistencies in the problems of Russian Railways, where one problem is the low speed of rolling stock, which also depends on the quality of the tracks (first of all) and from the rolling stock, and from the personnel who are engaged in the maintenance of these very roads.
      1. +12
        27 July 2021 15: 43
        "Where does the Railroad begin?" Hmm ... But everyone knows where it ends - in the "fur store", outsourcing and subcontracting. Yes
      2. +2
        27 July 2021 15: 49
        Quote: ROSS 42
        all these difficulties and inconsistencies in the problems of Russian Railways, where one problem is the low speed of the rolling stock, which depends on the quality of the tracks (first of all), and on the rolling stock, and on the personnel who are engaged in the maintenance of these very roads.

        Y-yes! As comrade F.E. Dzerzhinsky is not enough! Here he at one time managed to bring the railway to mind
        1. +9
          27 July 2021 15: 58
          Comrade Kaganovich brought the railway to mind
          1. -1
            27 July 2021 16: 05
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            Comrade Kaganovich brought the railway to mind

            Oh, is it? read here: https://kibalchish75.livejournal.com/244781.html
            1. +9
              27 July 2021 16: 51
              I don’t quite agree, under Dzkrzhinsky, the restoration of the entire railway infrastructure, which was destroyed to hell, was going on, and how the railway was working under Kaganovich, in general, we will not beg for the merits of both, and by the way they were not deleznorodniki from the word at all)))
              1. Alf
                +7
                27 July 2021 18: 55
                Quote: Andrey VOV
                and by the way, they were not dealers

                True, they weren't. But they had a DESIRE to do it right, and not make money on the road.
                1. +3
                  27 July 2021 19: 05
                  This is understandable, and she worked like a clock during the war, despite the wild difficulties ... Ideally, the road should be managed in the mind, built and made profit
                  1. Alf
                    +1
                    27 July 2021 19: 07
                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    This is understandable, and she worked like a clock during the war, despite the wild difficulties ... Ideally, the road should be managed in the mind, built and made profit

                    Did it work differently in the USSR in the post-war period?
                  2. +1
                    1 August 2021 15: 51
                    The railway should not bring profit, but transport goods and passengers from point A to point B strictly according to the schedule.
                    But when, in the post-Soviet era, the railway was concerned about profit, a bunch of unpromising trains and directions appeared, and the trains stopped running. And this should not be.
          2. +1
            28 July 2021 09: 40
            - And they thanked him ... In the mid-80s, near the gate of one of the checkpoints of our plant stood on a pedestal boots comrade. Kaganovich! wink
          3. +4
            28 July 2021 18: 03
            F E Dzerzhinsky by 1926 completely restored railway traffic after the First World War and the Civil War. People just forget that apart from the position. Chairman of the Cheka, he was also the People's Commissar for Ways of Communication.
        2. +2
          28 July 2021 22: 17
          Felix was still able to put many homeless children on the right path ... who did a lot for the USSR.
    5. +9
      27 July 2021 18: 19
      [quote = andr327] A lot of letters ... and everything was gone, but the specifics (except for emergency braking) are zero [/ quote]
      [quote] 1520. Mine under Russian railways [/ quote]
      A promising and intriguing article title!
      Considering my first VUS "Barrage and barrage of the railway", I thought it went well, because this topic is extremely rarely raised on VO. And the topic is the richest, new systems and technologies for mining railways, bridges and tunnels, methods and technologies for restoration, types of mines, etc.
      It turns out that according to Mr. Skomorokhov, the problem is in the morons behind the wheel, so there are enough of them everywhere!
      [quote] We will talk about the fact that, unfortunately, the railway is subject to the most terrible influence in Russian reality. The name of this nightmare is optimization. [/ Quote]
      Isn't the optimization of healthcare, education, sports a nightmare !?
      Railway for Russia is EVERYTHING!
      Alas, you did not reveal the topic, you began to "jump over bumps", and the topic is very relevant.
      Yours! hi
      1. -2
        30 July 2021 18: 07
        kapitan92 (Vyacheslav), July 27, 2021 18:19, - "... It turns out, according to Mr. Skomorokhov, the problem is in the idiots behind the wheel, there are enough of them everywhere! We will talk about the fact that, unfortunately, the railway is subject to the most terrible influence in Russian reality. The name of this nightmare is optimization. optimization of healthcare, education, sports is not a nightmare !?
        Railway for Russia is EVERYTHING! ... "


        Colleague, I respect your first VUS, but the author did not jump over bumps, but walked through the TOPIC, partially highlighting the most acute aspects of this problem visible to the layman. Highlighting the main thing - the situation, the consequences .. The importance in the current situation, both in the Russian Federation and along the perimeter, is guaranteed and promptly, in a timely manner to ensure the mobility of the movement of forces and means of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the security of the Russian Federation. soldier
        Yes, this is not the only problem for the Russian Federation. The author proposed THIS in view of its importance for the safety and fulfillment of its tasks of the Ministry of Defense. It is a, based on your mention of your VUS, then withAccording to the PROFILE questions of this resource - Military Review.
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      1. 0
        28 July 2021 04: 35
        ,, MICHANIZATION ,, !!! Vitaly, you are not a little modest!
    7. 0
      28 July 2021 17: 04
      Quote: andr327
      Many letters...

      1. Letters are money. Yes
      Quote: andr327
      zero

      2. It doesn't matter, because see item 1
      Yes hi
  2. +23
    27 July 2021 15: 22
    Roman, the idea of ​​series of articles on railway topics is interesting and promising. But!
    I ask you to be more precise in the description.
    Firstly, all the stations and, accordingly, their employees and many others (including the conductors of the DOP) belong to Russian Railways, only these are subsidiaries, and the head is still one.
    Secondly, corruption in the Russian Railways did not "bloom" but flourishes, unfortunately.
    Thirdly, "Profit going into the pockets of shareholders. And the employees - this is so, the fifth question, nothing more" - this is now everywhere, in all corporations, and Russian Railways is no exception.
    Are there many gatherings and emergency situations? This has always been the same, the specifics of the work. Sometimes a little thing can lead to tragedy.
    I hope the following articles will reveal the essence of your story. For now, I think this is an introduction. I would like not a one-sided presentation, but real analytics.
    But the idea is good!
    1. +7
      27 July 2021 15: 56
      Quote: Proton
      Roman, the idea of ​​series of articles on railway topics is interesting and promising. ... a good idea!
      Yes, I agree. There is only one big BUT! And it is much more than what you have already indicated:
      Quote: Proton
      But! I ask you to be more precise in the description.

      The novel needs to be not only more accurate, but also, more importantly, more OBJECTIVE.
      And then when Roman describes Japanese torpedo bombers or English cruisers, then he may be inaccurate (which is sometimes indicated by readers in the comments), but at least he tries to be objective in comparisons with analogues. Because "the affairs of the past", and somewhere out there, "beyond the horizon." And it's really interesting to read.
      But as soon as he undertakes to write something about Russia, he immediately turns into some kind of "evil dwarf" ©, to whom his Motherland "owes everything at once", moreover, only for the fact that he deigned to be born on this geographical area. Continuous "Yaroslavna's cry". Reading is disgusting.

      Therefore, I really want the beginning cycle to be objective (if possible). Flaws? There are, of course, a bunch of disadvantages. But no one canceled the merits for the same workers. I have close acquaintances from the railway workers (train drivers, on-duty on the tracks). And with all their sweatshop "schedules" they do not at all strive to change their profession. For the "evil empire" is not so evil.
      1. -6
        27 July 2021 20: 08
        Began...
        I will repeat to you: everyone has their own objectivity.

        Quote: Martyn
        when the novel describes Japanese torpedo bombers or English cruisers, it can be inaccurate (which is sometimes indicated by readers in the comments)


        Well, yes, "iksperdy" from Wikipedia, which are not the authorities of either Shunkov, or Aranov, or Shavrov. Just to show that he, the reader, thinks the coolest. Into the furnace, there are obviously more of these than the norm.
        Quote: Martyn
        But as soon as he undertakes to write something about Russia, he immediately turns into some kind of "evil dwarf" ©, to whom his Motherland "owes everything at once", moreover, only for the fact that he deigned to be born on this geographical area. Continuous "Yaroslavna's cry". Reading is disgusting.


        You, too, are disgusting to read. I beg you, pass by my articles.
        1. +4
          28 July 2021 17: 24
          Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
          I will repeat to you: everyone has their own objectivity.

          When your own - this is no longer objectivity, but subjectivity.
          Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
          Well, yes, "iksperdy" from Wikipedia, which are not the authorities, neither Shunkov, nor Aranov, nor Shavrov.
          I don’t presume to judge here, I don’t criticize your articles about cruisers, because I’m not an expert and not an iksperd. Just reading.
          Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
          I beg you, pass by my articles.
          I would do so if all the articles were nasty. But it's interesting about airplanes. So you have to start reading, and only then either finish reading or spitting.
          That's about the same railway. How can I know in advance that steam locomotives will be worse than about airplanes? That is why I call for objectivity.
        2. +2
          29 July 2021 00: 35
          I am a novel as a machinist with almost 30 years of experience, I can say that the article will go as an introductory article on this very voluminous topic. Try kovvrnut Zap.Sib.tam with indicators is always good, but in what way is this achieved?!?
      2. +1
        29 July 2021 05: 50
        There are no such professions on a piece of iron
        "train drivers",
        "on duty on the tracks". )))
        Would you at least ask close friends who do they work with?
        1. +1
          29 July 2021 13: 14
          Quote: Skuratov
          There are no such professions on a piece of iron
          "train drivers",
          "on duty on the tracks". )))
          Would you at least ask close friends who do they work with?
          Yes, perhaps I am mistaken in the accuracy of the wording, I myself am not a railroad worker from the word “at all”. I wrote it in my own words. Gag.
          An acquaintance of mine "drives" in the locomotive cabin (driver?). Another girl is sitting in a booth next to the barrier, another is a dispatcher in a large booth with a bunch of arrows.
          You probably yourself know how they are correctly called.
          And "to take an interest" ... Something like me and the dentists need to find out who their orthodontist, who is an orthopedist, and who is a dental technician. And how are they all different. winked
          Basically, "at work" the conversation turns to someone like Russian Railways helps or hinders in life. It seems to be rather under the pile it turns out ... lol
    2. -4
      27 July 2021 20: 05
      Quote: Proton
      Firstly, all the stations and, accordingly, their employees and many others (including the conductors of the DOP) belong to Russian Railways,


      Not applicable.

      Quote: Proton
      Secondly, corruption in the Russian Railways did not "bloom" but flourishes, unfortunately.


      With what times will we compare.

      Quote: Proton
      Thirdly, "Profit going into the pockets of shareholders. And the employees - this is so, the fifth question, nothing more" - this is now everywhere, in all corporations, and Russian Railways is no exception.


      No, I’m talking about employees, not about profit to shareholders.

      Actually, I do not impose my opinion. I present it. The fact that this is an announcement was written in the text itself. I do not know what and to whom I have not disclosed here, it is best to read line by line (this is not for you, if anything).
  3. 0
    27 July 2021 15: 26
    RZD is a public funds vacuum cleaner. She has her own institutes and technical schools. Your bank and your holiday homes and sanatoriums, etc. This is a monster that cannot even be compared with anything. Well, only with MO if ... And then with a big stretch. Many people there argued with optimization. But damn it, managing this is hell with our size.
    1. +10
      27 July 2021 15: 57
      Quote: carstorm 11
      RZD is a public funds vacuum cleaner. She has her own institutes and technical schools.

      Privatize? wink Give you freedom, you will sell everything! The profit of Russian Railways is in the billions, and you're talking about a vacuum cleaner. So when you are told about the export of resources, you remember about profit, but here for some reason you are talking about a vacuum cleaner. Why? Is it because the policy of United Russia is to sell the state property? You always drown for power, no matter what abomination it comes up with! wink
      1. +9
        27 July 2021 16: 02
        But soon Russian Railways will soon abandon reserved seats.
        Low-income citizens will be transported in commodity stores. Tickets, of course, will get a little more expensive. Pensioners get a discount. And evil tongues say that Russian Railways has long been sponsoring the development of drugs that stimulate aerophobia.
      2. -5
        27 July 2021 16: 05
        I didn’t talk about privatization. I'm talking about the fact that having a bunch of non-core assets like a bunch of recreation centers and other things, it's impossible to show anything serious. For a profit of 300 million in 20 years) They are up to billions oh how far)
        1. +5
          27 July 2021 16: 13
          Quote: carstorm 11
          I'm talking about the fact that having a bunch of non-core assets like a bunch of recreation centers and other things, it's impossible to show anything serious.

          Are non-core assets included in Russian Railways? Enter. Is Russian Railways making multibillion-dollar profits? Receives. So what does the state vacuum cleaner have to do with it? funds?
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          2. +4
            27 July 2021 16: 29
            With the help of the state, you can find the information yourself. You don't need to privatize anything. The railway must belong to the state. This is undeniable. I'm talking about managing it all.
            1. +5
              27 July 2021 16: 32
              They wiped off the comment in time, otherwise I have already composed a poem for you! laughing
              Quote: carstorm 11
              I'm talking about managing it all.
              Management yes, it is necessary to sweep the filthy broom, as well as Roskosmos, Sberbank and many other government agencies.
              1. -4
                27 July 2021 16: 36
                Not wiping, but simply decided to avoid another empty dispute. They bore me wildly. Sberbank is not a state-owned bank, and it is certainly not for us to drive whom to decide. And not at all. Roskosmos has been cleaning for two years. No matter how you feel about Rogozin, before him there was generally hell. As for Russian Railways, I spoke about something else. The structure itself is a monster. It itself needs to be changed and not those who run it.
                1. +6
                  27 July 2021 16: 53
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  Sberbank is not state-owned and it is certainly not for us to drive whom

                  50% + 1 share belongs to the state.
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  It itself needs to be changed and not those who run it.

                  Do you believe that changing the beds can solve the brothel crisis? belay
                  1. -3
                    27 July 2021 17: 16
                    Damn forgot. The central bank has recently taken away the shares ... my joint. But all the same, there is no need to change much. It works quite well. Crisis in a brothel without a clue, but Russian Railways, yes. My opinion has long been formed when the former worked there that this is not an organization, but a bunch of everything and everything without the slightest system.
                    1. 0
                      27 July 2021 17: 19
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      it is not an organization but a bunch of everything and everything without the slightest system.

                      Someone controls this heap, and is it headed? Each mistake has a first and last name. wink
                      1. -4
                        27 July 2021 17: 25
                        Well, put you another person. He is also in this heap and will flounder.
                      2. +2
                        27 July 2021 17: 38
                        It is necessary to put a responsible person with authority. And not just another manager. In the USSR, there was such a Komzin. Take an interest.
                      3. +1
                        28 July 2021 17: 17
                        It is necessary to put a responsible person with authority.


                        This is impossible. Such a large farm should be managed by an organization, a legal entity. And at the same time, in the target indicators, it should not have profit, but a break-even point, the level of capital investment in infrastructure and the absence of loss of share value and the performance of direct functions of the railway. Then and only then the manager will receive a bonus for management - otherwise, only compensation for a strictly limited level of management costs.
                      4. +1
                        29 July 2021 20: 01
                        Quote: ycuce234-san
                        This is impossible. Such a large farm should be managed by an organization, a legal entity

                        A legal entity always has a CEO. Who is gaining a team for himself.
                      5. 0
                        30 July 2021 00: 54
                        Gendir is still a mercenary. In this regard, a well-thought-out charter of a legal entity is much more important. For example, it is only through title docks that development investments can be prioritized over normal profits.
                2. +3
                  27 July 2021 17: 00
                  ... Roskosmos has been cleaning for two years.

                  Krikalev was recently cleaned out.
                  Why cosmonauts at Roscosmos Rogozin?
                  They only interfere. An extra element?
                  hi
                  1. -2
                    27 July 2021 17: 23
                    I have no idea. Intrigues, maybe squabbles with the authorities. Apparently not the most flexible person. I really don't really want to come up with reasons, but I just hate to read the speculations of a new newspaper. I can only say that for serious positions from ancient times you have to be not only a professional but also a politician and even a psychologist. But something tells me that he will be back. The figure is such that it is difficult to throw off the board just like that.
            2. +5
              27 July 2021 19: 11
              And Russian Railways has long been privatized. This is no longer a single organization - it is a conglomerate of a heap of subcontractors, connected by contract and lease relations and based on outsourcing in labor relations.
              1. +2
                27 July 2021 20: 01
                Quote: Snail N9
                contracted and leased and based on outsourcing in labor relations.

                In the energy sector, it is absolutely the same. With this power, there will be no other. Alas.
      3. +16
        27 July 2021 18: 55
        Privatize?

        In the late 90s, early 2000s, he worked in the Ministry of Railways, or rather started in the Ministry of Railways, graduated from Russian Railways. The first step was to privatize the rolling stock and create transport companies from the most profitable wagons, oil petrol tanks and open wagons. At the expense of these cars, suburban passenger transportation was previously subsidized; after these profitable cars left the private hands of relatives of the top management of the Ministry of Railways, subsidies were placed on the state budget. Companies were also created, for example YUKOS, which created their own fleet of new tank cars built in Ukraine, since UVZ set an exorbitant price tag, and the quality in Nizhny Tagil was not very good. They modernized the installed structures, adding unnecessary structural elements for, such as, access to the European Union railway. Gradually, the number 7 from the tanks was killed by 5, a private owner. And private traders began to save on maintenance and repairs, the entire system of CD, DR and TO was practically violated. The entire refrigerated fleet was scrapped. Now, Russian Railways retains locomotives and track infrastructure from the rolling stock. Schools, hospitals, dispensaries were given to the state, but hospitals for the top leadership remained, as well as a sanatorium, for example, Cape Vidny in Khost. Cargo transportation in comparison with the Soviet period has dropped several times as well as the average speed. You can list all the flawed decisions for a long time, but privatization of the railway was impossible, even in tsarist Russia they were state-owned. They are too strategic for our vastness. Imagine that it will be necessary to transfer a division from west to east, and this is 30-40 echelons and I am sure that they will not find a sufficient number of wagons.
        1. +1
          27 July 2021 19: 14
          Quote: Konnick
          ... Imagine that it will be necessary to transfer a division from west to east, and this is 30-40 echelons and I am sure that they will not find a sufficient number of wagons

          In the conditions of an impending war, it makes no sense to transfer 30-40 divisions or echelons. Nobody will repeat the feat of railway workers during the Great Patriotic War. And the adversary will not allow any infrastructure to work normally.
          I do not know about the average speed of cargo transportation, but the passenger traffic has clearly become better - both in terms of comfort and in terms of time.
          But if the author put the number 1520 in the title, then it would be necessary to designate 1524 in parentheses. Any railroad worker will understand what is going on ...
          1. +6
            27 July 2021 19: 28
            passenger traffic has clearly improved - and in terms of comfort

            There is no romance, the windows are closed, you cannot drink or smoke drinks
            But the price tag became too heavy, my late grandmother traveled all the relatives from the Baltic to Siberia, being retired. Now pensioners cannot afford it. All these comforts greatly affected the cost of travel, unfortunately. Previously, it was possible to get to Sochi by train, in a 2-seater compartment, with a washbasin, air conditioning and a separate seat in the compartment, in a luxurious German carriage of the Ritsa train it was possible to get there for 40 rubles, almost like by plane, now this cannot be done by plane cheaper, and the comfort in the suite was no less than it is now, but the reserved seat was very cheap.
            1. +4
              27 July 2021 19: 42
              Quote: Konnick
              There is no Roiantika, the windows are closed, you cannot drink or smoke

              I myself suffer on long-distance trains - waiting for the station to breathe nicotine ...
              laughing
              Quote: Konnick
              Previously, it was possible to get to Sochi by train, in a 2-seater compartment, with a washbasin and air conditioning, in a luxurious German carriage of the Ritsa train, it was possible to get there for 40 rubles, almost like by plane, now this cannot be done by plane cheaper, but comfort in a suite there was no less, but the reserved seat was very cheap

              So the SV was clearly not cheap. And not everyone could afford a coupe. Smoky, and smelled of a toilet reserved seat, also cost not a penny.
              And finally - the Soviet service is the most unobtrusive service in the world. It felt especially good when the angry conductor gave you gray and damp underwear.
              No .. Changes for the better on passenger lines are visible to the naked eye - faster, cleaner, more comfortable.
              As for the price tag, even in those days, in order to travel from the Baltic to Siberia, it was necessary to pay a round sum. Plus - the way back. Railway workers had free travel (reserved seat) - once a year.
              1. +3
                27 July 2021 19: 56
                Railway workers had free travel (reserved seat) - once a year.

                According to the collective agreement, there was a compartment, two tickets. I even went to Baikal.
                1. +4
                  27 July 2021 20: 03
                  Quote: Konnick
                  According to the collective agreement, there was a compartment, two tickets. I even went to Baikal.

                  Here ...
                  And while I was storming knowledge at the railway technical school, I went to Odessa once a year. Therefore, then I changed direction, but not profile. Only it was in the second half of the 70s.
                  It turns out that life has improved. Then we had to pay extra for the compartment ...
              2. 0
                27 July 2021 20: 04
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Changes for the better on passenger lines are visible to the naked eye - faster, cleaner, more comfortable.

                Ilyich, have a conscience - 30 years have passed. In the 40s we used straw, and in the 80s we used linen, albeit wet! wink
                1. +2
                  27 July 2021 20: 07
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Ilyich, have a conscience

                  I don't have it, Igor ... Lost after vaccination ...
                  wassat
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  and in the 80s already on linen, albeit on damp

                  And in the saints of the 90s, such small insects were collected from linen, and brought home, and then ... ..
                  lol
                  1. 0
                    29 July 2021 20: 06
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    I don't have it, Igor ... Lost after vaccination ...

                    You have everything, do not be poor. wink
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    And in the saints of the 90s, such small insects were collected from linen

                    Tell your wife fairy tales! I used to catch such small insects in other places! wassat
          2. +5
            27 July 2021 20: 23
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            But if the author put the number 1520 in the title, then it would be necessary to designate 1524 in parentheses. Any railroad worker will understand what is going on ...

            hi
            To be more precise, 1520 (+6; -4)
            1. +3
              27 July 2021 20: 25
              Quote: kapitan92
              To be more precise, 1520 (+6; -4)

              That's all right. But when mentioning the track gauge, the numbers 1520 (1524) were always used.
          3. 0
            29 July 2021 05: 57
            Probably you are a very old railwaymen ...)) for a long time already 1520. Somewhere from a quarter of a century.
            1. 0
              29 July 2021 06: 27
              Quote: Skuratov
              Probably you are a very old railwaymen ...)) for a long time already 1520. For about a quarter of a century

              Operating Technician Diploma of 1980
              lol
              1. +1
                29 July 2021 06: 58
                I've been on a piece of hardware since 1989. He also started from 1524.))
    2. +3
      27 July 2021 15: 59
      The institute is not currently on the balance sheet of the Russian Railways, it does not belong to another ministry like that of higher education and science
      1. -1
        27 July 2021 16: 10
        Roszheldor. Only I'm not talking about being on the balance sheet but the closed structure and everything that surrounds it.
      2. +2
        27 July 2021 16: 16
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        The Institute is not currently on the balance sheet of the Russian Railways

        Practically all educational institutions in our country are not on the balance sheet of those enterprises where graduates will later go to work.
        Do you propose to save public funds, and eliminate techies, colleges, institutes, as in their time vocational schools?
        1. +6
          27 July 2021 16: 28
          On the contrary, I am for the reanimation of specialized secondary and secondary vocational educational institutions under the wing of relevant ministries and departments
          1. +2
            27 July 2021 16: 36
            Sorry then. Moreover, resuscitation should be carried out in parallel with mass national projects, the construction of factories. For it is these industries that the flow of graduates is focused on.
        2. -1
          27 July 2021 16: 32
          Where and how do you find such conclusions? ... Who even said a word about this ...
      3. +1
        27 July 2021 16: 29
        Or have I misunderstood you?
        1. +3
          27 July 2021 16: 34
          Apparently, I didn’t really state the idea, but what is happening now with the training of personnel is a disaster ... Av at one time in the technical school of railway transport in Khabarovsk there was a competition commensurate with the competition in khabiyzht (Khabarovsk Institute of Railway Engineers), such there were three large universities then, Moscow, Kharkov and Khabarovsk
          1. -1
            27 July 2021 16: 37
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            Apparently, I didn’t really state the idea.

            Ok, this is my joint ..... feel
          2. +1
            27 July 2021 16: 43
            Yes, it seems, and now the piece of iron is full of people. There is no information on the technical school.
    3. Alf
      +3
      27 July 2021 19: 06
      Quote: carstorm 11
      RZD is a public funds vacuum cleaner. She has her own institutes and technical schools. Your bank and your holiday homes and sanatoriums, etc. This is a monster that cannot even be compared with anything. Well, only with MO if ... And then with a big stretch. Many people there argued with optimization. But damn it, managing this is hell with our size.

      The energy system of Russia was also at first a single whole, but it was difficult to manage such a colossus, it was painfully clumsy. And then a "genius" appeared, who said, “Let's divide the power system into many parts, and it will be better and faster to manage, and prices will go down due to competition ...
      The result is obvious. Let's also do this trick with a piece of iron.
  4. +1
    27 July 2021 15: 27
    49% is, alas, no longer state control.
    -In our time, the railway is the same as a hundred years ago.
    "In all countries, railways are used for movement, and in our country, moreover, for theft."
    M.E Saltykov-Shedrin.
    Novel, well, I REALLY want to read the sequel, have Ukrzaliznytsya been "outdone"?
    1. +4
      27 July 2021 15: 32
      It is unlikely that more people steal from Russian Railways than from other departments, but there are an order of magnitude more intelligent and useful business for the country and people in Russian Railways.
      1. 0
        28 July 2021 11: 32
        Quote: RoTTor
        It is unlikely that more people steal from Russian Railways than from other departments

        In the early 00s, there was an operation to weigh wagons at the entrance to the Russian Federation. For a week, we counted a shortage of tariffs due to overweight when sending about 10%.
        This is billions of shortfalls ...
        Then they quickly turned everything off - the client went to court and argued that his carriage was weighed during shipment and the weight went to the documents. And why the weight does not converge - it is not in business ... Several dozen lost cases and Russian Railways crawled away to lick their wounds
    2. -1
      27 July 2021 15: 32
      Here definitely not) You can reach this level with great difficulty))). They even somehow managed to drive the park of heat and electric locomotives to the state of the railway in Africa, probably if not worse. It is generally better to be silent about losses.
      1. -2
        27 July 2021 16: 02
        Regarding the car fleet, that is, the real shortage of cars, they cannot cope with the number of orders, plus the loss of car repair plants in Ukraine
        1. +3
          27 July 2021 16: 38
          The problem of the shortage of freight cars was acute two years ago. Not now. Yes, and Ukrainian resources have long been discounted, we are doing fine ourselves. In general, the railway is changing for the better, with a creak, of course.
          Yes, "C" made a very good impression on me personally, I heard his working speeches more than once at work. Although he is not a railroad worker, he was still in charge of the Federal Road Agency for 5 years, and he was Deputy Minister of Transport for 6 years - he has a wealth of experience.
          1. +3
            27 July 2021 16: 43
            Do you know what the deficit of grain carriers is? Tin, and new cars, for example, the Bargaul plant, begin to crumble in three years, both the cars themselves and the wheelsets
            1. +1
              27 July 2021 17: 15
              Specifically for grain carriers - no.
              Well that is there are questions to the manufacturers (apparently, BVRZ meant). I admit it, although the statistics should be looked at by incidents. There are questions about the policy of railroad (carriage) operators, about the maintenance and repair of the fleet, the efficiency of using existing cars (at least reducing the empty load). This yes. For the same operators, the shortage situation is more likely to be profitable - like hot cakes they buy up on any conditions.
              1. +2
                27 July 2021 17: 23
                The operator and the owners of the cars are more profitable with a fast turnover and for just fines mom do not worry)))
        2. +6
          27 July 2021 21: 59
          Often, the deficit is created on purpose. The entire wagon fleet is in private hands, in lease and sub- and sub-sub-lease. And it is profitable for them to hold back the cars, especially gondola cars, as the most universal ones, and then raise the price, and the collusion of the "owners" is also present. One of the largest - Freight One, which received almost all the cars for free at the time of the railroad carriage of the Ministry of Railways, is now also not in the best positions, tk. the carve-up, by inertia, but already by Russian Railways, continues. And so on all counts.
          The chiefs of the stations where at least some manipulations with the train are performed (sending / receiving) are landowners and in their estate they do whatever they want. And in Russian Railways, everyone who can contact the client (as in the police) takes bribes - from a carriage, a rigger, a delivery service provider, a commodity cashier - to the head of the Central Transport Department and the Road itself. And I don’t care the transfer to ETRAN (also paid, by the way), the carriage still needs to be accepted or sent with a person present, tk. the same carriage or the receiver may not accept the carriage for any far-fetched reason and release it for a "small" bribe (of course, unfastening it higher in the instance). Similarly, in the field of transport by inland waterways.
          PS And the carriages with whom I spoke are sober!
          1. +1
            27 July 2021 22: 23
            If the car is in good working order, the documents are drawn up correctly, there is no log control, there is a steam locomotive, a prefabricated locomotive is being assembled, what could be the reasons for the delay? In addition, there are already precedents and court decisions in favor of clients, and the road doesn’t like these scandals, they don’t need it.
            1. 0
              29 July 2021 20: 34
              If you know how to check the serviceability of a carriage (which you first saw at the time of loading), etc. - maybe there are no problems. But if a one-time dispatch, you are not an honorable client of the station and your task is simply to send a carriage with cargo in the shortest possible time, then you will not get off with one day and one thousand money. You also need to pass the "exam" to the auditors. In addition, then they poke telegrams in the face - the car is detained at such and such a station, tk. the twist on the latch of the gondola car hatch does not correspond to the specifications for the wire diameter or the bracket at the ladder is bent. And the court will not return the time and nerves spent, and neither will the money.
              1. 0
                29 July 2021 21: 22
                Well, maybe someone does, but last August they sent 973 grain carriages in a month, they left and came like a clock)) and for those who do not load so regularly there are a lot of "comrades" who will do everything for money, but a bit expensive, but without hemorrhoids
          2. 0
            28 July 2021 11: 36
            I talked like that with a tank washer ... I realized that the traffic cops and customs officers (90-00s) are hicks against their background ...
    3. +1
      27 July 2021 15: 40
      Ukraine in the matter of self-destruction and theft of what was inherited from the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR cannot be surpassed by anyone and never.
      They are forever plunged into world history, there will be no such country, but an unkind memory of how everything was ... or in just 30 years from the richest, educated and prosperous union republic of the USSR with the 4th-5th economy and the 2nd army of Europe in 1991, turned into the most rotten from corruption and the poorest country in the Ukraine of the continent, will remain forever.
      If in Ukraine, trains still somehow somehow run, thanks to far-away safety margins, Russian and Belarusian fuels and lubricants, locomotives and wagons.
      1. 0
        27 July 2021 23: 21
        An article about Russia, so why drag in Ukraine?
    4. +1
      27 July 2021 16: 36
      “49% is, alas, no longer state control” - this is almost complete control, because in order to resist the will of the state, the owners of the remaining 51% of the shares need to agree among themselves, which is practically unrealistic, and I will say more, it is dangerous. In practice, a 30-35% stake can give control over a firm.
  5. +1
    27 July 2021 15: 28
    A delusional zakazuha composed by a complete layman to spoil before the Day of the railroad worker.
    For information:
    1. Look at the composition of the countries participating in the work of the Railway Council. transport.
    2. Who, in terms of education and experience of the previous one, were the most outstanding leaders of the domestic railway transport in the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR?

    Without prompting, so that the brain does not atrophy.
    1. +8
      27 July 2021 16: 03
      Who, in terms of education and experience of the previous one, were the most outstanding leaders of the domestic railway transport in the Republic of Ingushetia and in the USSR

      In the USSR, all railroad ministers were railroad workers. As for the NKPS, the people's commissariats are a separate issue.
      1. +15
        27 July 2021 16: 35
        The article, if I may say so, is slightly incorrect. From the point of nuances. I say this as the son of a train driver. My father has been traveling in the cab of commuter trains for more than thirty years. He told me some "little things" too ...
        What it means
        there will be no emergency braking,? !!
        All incidents and disasters are investigated not by the chiefs of the railway in their offices, but by the PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE!
        And if emergency braking was not applied (and this is easily verified by the recorders in the cockpit), then the driver is the first in line for the real time.
        Novel! Think about what can happen to the train if it does not brake as fast as possible when it hits an obstacle - it can just derail and roll over. Do you think then passengers will suffer less than when braking?
        I know what I'm writing about - my father had SEVEN (!) Personal "stars". That is, corpses when he was a machinist. When the assistant is a separate column. Mostly drunks, suicides, and the last four - a foreign car on the move.
        So it was precisely the observance of all instructions and their correct execution that allowed him to retire as a senior machinist.
        Do not mislead readers.
        1. +1
          27 July 2021 17: 03
          All incidents and disasters are investigated not by the chiefs of the railway in their offices, but by the PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE!

          Here you are wrong. The prosecutor's office is informed about the crash or traffic accident, but the investigation is being conducted by a commission to investigate traffic safety violations by Russian Railways. The Rostransnadzor Commission is conducting its own parallel investigation.
          1. +1
            27 July 2021 17: 40
            They called my father to the prosecutor's office. I do not know in the capacity of whom, but I remember it perfectly. And he was very worried about it, although he did not feel guilty about himself.
            Perhaps, in parallel, violations in the investigation happened? But he wrote some explanatory notes in the prosecutor's office.
            1. +2
              27 July 2021 18: 01
              The prosecutor's office has its own investigation.
          2. +6
            27 July 2021 17: 51
            If there is a corpse, then immediately the transport prosecutor's office and a criminal case
        2. -11
          27 July 2021 20: 13
          Don't be nonsense. It is disgusting to read your nonsense.
          1. +8
            27 July 2021 20: 37
            Novel. Judging by the comments below and how much you've already deleted, you wrote nonsense. Or rather, incompetent information.
            Below, the railway workers have already expressed their opinion, I will add on my own that I am writing what I heard, saw all my childhood and youth. I grew up with machinists and their assistants. So you don't have to tell me about the unnecessary emergency braking.
          2. +4
            27 July 2021 21: 13
            Do you want to say that if a corpse, rails, then there is no criminal case and the transport prosecutor's office does not deal with this ???
      2. +1
        27 July 2021 17: 35
        Sorry, but you did not read the question carefully
        1. +1
          27 July 2021 18: 02
          As you wrote, so I read it.
  6. +2
    27 July 2021 15: 35
    [b
    ] The name of this nightmare is optimization.
    [/ b] This nightmare is not only on Russian Railways
  7. +6
    27 July 2021 15: 36
    Roman, this topic is much broader than only Russian Railways. It has already developed in all sectors that are important for the security of the state, and this is not only transport. Medicine, education, industry and beyond everywhere, everywhere the algorithm that you described works. These particulars add up to the state of Russia. Where the main thing is the profit of shareholders, not the efficiency of the system for all citizens.
    1. -1
      27 July 2021 20: 15
      Yuri, I understand you. But it so happened that it was the railway workers who turned to me. And, to be honest, I don't really want to write something about ALL the problems in the country. I don’t want to end like Navalny, he doesn’t pull. There are a lot of problems, but to raise everything - alas. And the railway is still a strategic resource.
      1. +1
        28 July 2021 05: 17
        And I understand you. The concern is that these phenomena add up to a general algorithm. Including in vital industries. I do not deny that somewhere the setting of the preferential extraction of profit is correct and the only correct one. But not where security is at stake, incl. military, Russia.
  8. -8
    27 July 2021 15: 40
    About how the site population from Roman korezhit. Judging by the comments, not everyone liked his previous article. And this distortion is a direct proof of the correctness of Skomorokhov
    1. +4
      27 July 2021 17: 53
      If you have read Skomorokhov's article about the 10th anniversary of the site, you should understand that the author perfectly understands that there will be pros and cons, and the reaction of readers does not prove anything, except that the topic is acute and interesting.
      1. 0
        27 July 2021 20: 16
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        If you read Skomorokhov's article about the 10th anniversary of the site


        You have not read Skomorokhov's article about the site's 10th anniversary. She was not there. The site turned 11 this year, in April. After all, start reading at least one line later.
        1. +5
          27 July 2021 20: 30
          It doesn't matter if it's 10 or 11, that's not the point, and please, you don't have to answer so badly,
        2. +5
          27 July 2021 21: 13
          Has this article been on Voennoye Obozreniye for ten years, or is it not yours?
  9. +1
    27 July 2021 15: 48
    Suddenly I liked the "seed" (introduction)!
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  11. +7
    27 July 2021 15: 56
    The novel, the topic of the Russian Railways is interesting, he himself is indirectly tied to it at work, but why such a large, watery introduction ??? I'm waiting for further narration ... And I will say this, I have never seen a drunken carriage, at least at those stations from which I sent trains
    1. +6
      27 July 2021 17: 12
      Our drunken carriages disappeared in the early 2000s.
      1. +1
        27 July 2021 17: 14
        We have the head of the station from which we send the cars, the woman is such a thunderous woman, her men are pancake afraid and God forbid even the smell ...
      2. +6
        27 July 2021 18: 14
        Quote: alex967
        Our drunken carriages disappeared in the early 2000s.

        Let the Author show your eloquence. You still have to get to the carriage depot. As well as a team of guides. As in the locomotive depot. But who will let him in? It's easier to refer to the interlocutor who agreed to an interview over a glass of Baltika beer - both cheap and angry. Full consensus ...
    2. -4
      27 July 2021 20: 18
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Why such a big, watery introduction?


      It happened. This is collective creativity, so to speak.

      Quote: Andrey VOV
      And I will say this, I have never seen a drunken carriage


      I am happy for you. But I haven't caught one sober yet.
      1. +1
        27 July 2021 20: 28
        Who do you think the carriage is?
        1. +6
          27 July 2021 20: 37
          There are any varieties - carriage, brownie, driveway, wood goblin (forest), water (river and sea), and others ...
          1. +4
            27 July 2021 21: 05
            )))))) 5 points)))) I immediately remembered the film, the artist Svetin played there, he was sitting in there. form and just said that there are brownies, and he is in the drive))))
      2. +2
        28 July 2021 00: 42
        [quote] I'm happy for you. But I haven't caught a single one sober yet. / Quote] with whom you will lead ...
      3. +1
        28 July 2021 04: 50
        Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Why such a big, watery introduction?


        It happened. This is collective creativity, so to speak.

        Quote: Andrey VOV
        And I will say this, I have never seen a drunken carriage


        I am happy for you. But I haven't caught one sober yet.

        And where do you catch them? On the streets? So you need to check them at work during the shift. But just bad luck, no one will let you there without a transport security pass. So I believe that you have not seen sober carriages. Because you have them. couldn't see at work at all.
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  13. +13
    27 July 2021 16: 05
    Yes, sir, you were not fully informed. After each such incident, they are dragged to the dismantling of the traffic control system: how the crossing light and sound alarm worked, how the crossing logs about weekly checks were filled, how and in what time the relays were checked in the relay cabinets at the crossing, how the barrier works (those who want to go around the barrier in eight) or just ram him. They drag the mechanic of the locomotive and his assistant, check the speed gauge tape, the locomotive traffic light, the rail connectors through which the rail codes go to the traffic lights ... They drag the railroad workers for timely replacement of sleepers. rail pads, rails. On the railway, they change bulbs in traffic lights, station attendants' consoles, relays, rails, sleepers not then. when they fail and on schedule. The light bulb is supposed to serve for six months, it is changed with an entry in the journal. And for this, commissions are created from the leadership of the distance of the path and communication distances, the specialists of the department and the management of the road.
    I have worked for 27 years in the signaling and communication distance. I assure you, all this is a pleasure far below average. The slightest absence of a record of the check or an error in the record is followed by organizational conclusions.
    1. -7
      27 July 2021 20: 19
      I had to lay out all the documentation according to yours? I can. The question is who will read it.
      1. +9
        27 July 2021 21: 08
        A novel, and in this case it is necessary to decide whether the reader is for you or you are for the reader
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    1. +2
      27 July 2021 16: 24
      Railway track width
      1. +3
        27 July 2021 17: 32
        OUR, domestic since the time of Nikolai Pavlovich, the father of railway transport of the Republic of Ingushetia, is better than the European one in 6 mm in many respects.
        "Community 1520" in the railway post-socialist and post-Soviet world is the same reality as the Soviet people
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  16. +2
    27 July 2021 16: 38
    Without railways, built in just a few decades (even under the Romanovs), there would be no Russia. The surrender of the Baltic territories led to the loss of the oldest railway network in Russia and its degradation. And the degradation of the roads indicates the degradation of the country.
    1. +4
      27 July 2021 16: 47
      After the demolition of the monument to the soldier in Estonia, the branch from the Russian side, in my opinion, was generally disassembled and pilfered, Latvia groans from the decrease in cargo traffic to the ports, the Luga will be built and the grain will go there ...
  17. 0
    27 July 2021 16: 45
    I liked it - "my soul hurts" !!! Roman - keep going !!!
  18. +7
    27 July 2021 16: 48
    Corruption on the railway has existed since their launch. I remember the 80s, railway. Ashuluk station. We send equipment for repair. The platforms are loaded, the guard is in the heating house, urgently needs to be sent, tk in the telegram the dates are up to that date. It is necessary to attach to the freight train. On parallel tracks, two pipes await dispatch - tanks with Azerbaijani port Kavkaz, in the middle a teplushka with two abreks. My task, as a nachkara, is to prevent the exchange of canned food from dry rations for the gifts of the Caucasian mountains. The station commandant could not send us on time, because the first tanks were hitched and sent for two kettles of wine.
    1. +3
      27 July 2021 17: 28
      those. in your particular case, corruption was in the military messaging service, i.e. - from your military colleagues.
      1. +2
        28 July 2021 08: 32
        As it turned out later, Uncle Vasya, a coupler on a sorting hill for two kettles of wine, hitched the cisterns to the freight train on his own initiative. And no one could cancel his decision. And he shared with the dispatcher on duty and the driver of the shunting diesel locomotive. And it happened at night. Disassembly began in the morning, but it was too late, the tanks were already approaching Volgograd.
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  20. +10
    27 July 2021 17: 18
    The nephew works as a machinist at the North Caucasus Railway. About optimization, which is consistently carried out by the leadership of Russian Railways - only in the purest Russian, otherwise it will not come out.
    The machinists are flattened with a schedule that violates all conceivable norms, if not on the flight, then you are in reserve - be sober on the phone at home, 25-30 percent can be pulled on the flight. If it's a day off - stomp in a white shirt to take some tests or to classes, listen to wise guidance.
    And this for 40-50 thousand rubles (in Soviet times, the driver's assistant received 450-500).
    The apotheosis of this season is a new notion of optimizers: so that the driver's assistant still does the work of the carriage.
    People run, where then the leadership of Russian Railways suddenly wants to take the drivers - probably in the same place where Kudrin and Serdyukov thought to take the army - there will be a war, then we will buy ... Somewhere.
    So, under the victorious reports that we managed to keep our negative growth at 4%, we will soon get a defeat or, at least, systemic serious problems of Russian Railways.
    Not to mention the ability to quickly build roads - for several years they have fenced off bypassing Ukraine in the Rostov region, now the Chinese need to carry coal - again Shoigu is building the road, there is no one else ...
    1. +2
      27 July 2021 17: 25
      This is, of course, nonsense, the driver and the carriage compiler,
    2. 0
      27 July 2021 17: 26
      In Soviet times, ALL the largest transport and industrial construction projects were carried out by the corresponding headquarters of the GULAG of the NKVD, and the railway workers were engaged only in their operation and repair.
      1. +1
        28 July 2021 00: 21
        Come on, pour it in. At BAM in 1974-1984 there was not a single ZK. To enumerate further?
        1. +1
          28 July 2021 12: 36
          Michael, correct if I'm wrong, I've heard or read somewhere that probably 50 percent of the work was done by servicemen. etc. troops, is that so?
          1. +2
            28 July 2021 13: 28
            Yes. Almost the entire eastern section of the BAM was built by soldiers-railroad workers. There was a brigade in Tynda, a corps in Chegdomyn. The units were stationed in Dipkun, Verkhnezeisk, Urgal. At the station in Tynda, a memorial plaque was installed, on the former building of the brigade headquarters on Krasnaya Presnya Street as well. Many stations are named after the railway soldiers. In Tynda, street names remind of this: Hospital, im. General Milko.
            1. 0
              28 July 2021 13: 33
              I remembered that a friend had just told me, he and his friend had been summoned and both were in the train station. troops, only my friend ended up building some kind of road in Mongolia, but he was at the bam and did not talk about any convicts at all ...
    3. +6
      27 July 2021 17: 36
      In 1990 he got a job at the USSR Ministry of Railways. VSZhd, the salary is 300 rubles, and this is with the northern ones. The driver received 450-500 rubles in one person.
    4. +4
      28 July 2021 00: 28
      Well, suppose, all their lives, drivers and assistants have been on call. All my life we ​​drove after 16 and after 12 hours. What in Soviet times, what after. Was the assistant doing the carriage work? Only in the part of the test of the brakes. Nothing new either. Belarusian method from the USSR, my friend. Starting work in the Ministry of Railways, I was a conductor of freight trains. Served several stations: and the assistant driver + compiler + carriage (in terms of testing the brakes). Technical classes once a month - you can (and should) go, listen to the instructors. What are the tears about?
  21. -1
    27 July 2021 17: 19
    Lenin managed to plant bombs everywhere, and Yeltsin pulled the string. The rope is constantly being pulled by other faces.
    1. +2
      27 July 2021 21: 59
      Quote: zenion
      Lenin managed to plant bombs everywhere, and Yeltsin pulled the string. The rope is constantly being pulled by other faces.

      Come on, did he come up with the 1520 gauge too?
  22. +21
    27 July 2021 17: 22
    Well, so-so, insufficiently detailed article. And I hardly believe in emergency braking. By the way, I'm a carriage, and I'm sober)
    In Russian Railways, there is a real theater of the absurd, IMHO even worse than in the army (I also visited there).
    Now I work in an engineering position (mostly papers). What I have to deal with .:
    1. Senior management. In connection with the reform of the Russian Railways, a hierarchy was established: Moscow directorate, Moscow service-directorate on the road-service-subdivision. But not in all genera. For example, locomotives have no service, they immediately have a directorate on the road, then a Moscow directorate. And for some reason we, the carriages, were pushed into the same directorate with the railroad workers and the lanyards. Therefore, there are also three services in the directorate. And then there are the heads of the railways. I probably wrote it too cumbersome. In general, the head of the carriage depot is subordinate to the head of the carriage service, the head of the infrastructure directorate, the head of the road, who also has deputies in the regions. Have you estimated the number of bosses? And everyone has their own cockroaches in their heads. And then there are useless auditors who have to find some comments in your department to show their work. One-man management? This is definitely not about Russian Railways.
    2. Checks. Constant, fucking his leg, checks. Do you think something changes dramatically after the checks? No. Checks for the sake of checks. The head of the road goes for spring and autumn inspections, with him all this retinue of chiefs of services, directorates, and so on. Remarks can be of the level "change the sleeper on the stretch", or they can be "Not painted part of the car at the training ground". All this entourage checks your unit for 2-3 days, followed by analysis (to whom the bonus, to whom the reprimand, etc.) and the elimination of comments. Does this increase safety? I doubt. And then there is an inspection of the Central District Hospital (auditors from Moscow) once a year, from which everyone is shaking in fear. Those allow themselves to make harsher remarks, but the tendency does not improve much after that. Again, 2-3 days verification, analysis, etc. Well, and right there in the region lives an auditor in the role of a thorn in the ass.
    3. As the author mentioned, this is optimization. The people are being laid off, but the work is not decreasing. They throw it at the remaining workers, who, because of this, can leave at 17:00 instead of 19:00, for example. Plus, since the beginning of the covid, Belozerov said "to apply a part-time work regime as an alternative to downsizing." Looks like poor Belozerov is not enough for a fur store. We have been writing consistently for a year and a half, one day a month. (Shift workers write for extended lunches, but their lunches do not get longer, the trains run).
    In general, it is necessary to round off, pulls on a separate article. For reference, I will say: our group of university graduates was 25 people. God forbid, people 7 remained to work on the piece of iron. And I'm glad for those who could leave and find something better. I hope I will suffer the same fate)
  23. +1
    27 July 2021 17: 26
    The second reason for emergency braking is if the train was traveling fast and braking well, sliders form on the wheels.


    How to understand it?
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  25. +1
    27 July 2021 17: 32
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    This is, of course, nonsense, the driver and the carriage compiler,

    More carefully: after all, they do not want to sell this duty to the driver, but to the assistant. They have different statuses and responsibilities. But, the assistants will scatter, and all experiments will end there.
    1. +4
      27 July 2021 17: 59
      Yes, it's still nonsense !! All instructions and duties are written in blood and sweat, as well as statutes.
  26. +6
    27 July 2021 17: 39
    Quote: RoTTor
    In Soviet times, ALL the largest transport and industrial construction projects were carried out by the corresponding headquarters of the GULAG of the NKVD, and the railway workers were engaged only in their operation and repair.

    Then yes, there is a lot of controversy, but it worked. Now what are the suggestions? We have millions of unemployed, but how to build - Khusnullin will offer to bring in migrants, then to attract non-working pensioners. Is this the way out?
    This is a fiasco, bro, I would tell him in the words of a popular video.
    That's who we have a lot, so young healthy bloggers Bilov, and so they could be entrusted with the construction of railway instead of LJ.
    Also, judging by the results, Stavropol traffic cops build well and quickly, expensively and richly ...
    1. -1
      28 July 2021 11: 55
      Quote: faterdom
      Now what are the suggestions? We have millions of unemployed but how to build - Khusnullin will offer to bring in migrants, or to attract non-working pensioners. Is this the way out?
      well, about the millions you bent .. Real there are much fewer unemployed - the bulk of these types of unemployed are either gray / black salaries, or all possible bloggers / freelancers ...
      And with the rest, everything is sad ...
      In the spring I was looking for a man for half an hour of work (he himself could not) - transport the crossbar on a wheelbarrow on the asphalt to the yard for 30 meters. 1000 rubles for half an hour of work did not interest anyone - "better give 100 rubles per bottle"
      I can see them going to build a new BAM, yeah ...
    2. 0
      28 July 2021 22: 47
      Travelers have long been one of the migrants, only the brigadier over this "Caudle" is Russian.
  27. +4
    27 July 2021 17: 48
    From the point of view of general security, this is a rather interesting and relevant topic. Bridges that were washed away by floods, the lack of bypass routes from point A to point B, uncontrolled intersections at the same level, gas and oil pipelines passing nearby, semi-abandoned villages, without normal living conditions, since the BAM, haven't these problems posed and do not pose their challenges to the state and society today?
    Or, take the Black Sea coast, where the railway practically gnaws off the lion's share of the coast, suitable for the deployment of recreation areas, while polluting both the coast and coastal waters.
    Naturally, all this takes time and money, but the public demand for this topic is great and can serve as a signal flag ...
  28. 0
    27 July 2021 17: 52
    A friend worked for 30 years as a locomotive driver, until he fell under the same "optimization". I told a lot of things, so I know a little about the "stars" and so on. It will be interesting to read.
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  32. +1
    28 July 2021 00: 01
    It's not funny, but I worked there for a year.
    In the department of computer support for the work of station attendants.
    At that time, all this (motion control) did not work in real time.
    In Real Time, the trains were running without a computer control, but only with a computer display.
    The bowlers at the station saw the arriving trains, and then only when they were "computer fed" from the previous station.
    It was a high flight, high technology.
    Perhaps now, something has changed.
    Or maybe not ?
  33. +5
    28 July 2021 03: 28
    Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
    Don't be nonsense. It is disgusting to read your nonsense.
    Do you think yours are not disgusting?
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  35. +3
    28 July 2021 09: 18
    - Braking distance - yes ... This is kaneshno ... To destroy the organization, no less important. than MO is an outstanding achievement! For this, it is necessary to award a cast-iron medal on the neck, followed by swimming in deep places!
    - At one time, the railway was a very complex structure, self-sufficient and capable of maintaining performance without the involvement of third-party resources.
    - I worked with the railway for several years (TashTVRZ), and I can say for sure - back in the 80s the railway was a state within a state ... And besides the main production, it also included "household goods" - Construction of housing for employees, trade organizations, medicine, departmental kindergartens ... Closely cooperated with the Ministry of Defense - we had mobile warehouses at the plant - even beech blocks for making weapons boxes, cubic meters of wood prepared for long-term storage ... In the 90s, this whole colossus was stolen and sold ... And, according to those who work on the "piece of iron", now the process of removing the railway from the hands of the state continues ...
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  37. +4
    28 July 2021 10: 20
    The author, and what did not like it - in my comments that the Moderator (that is, Skomorokhov himself) deleted them? Did you not like the opinion of a professional who gave the railway for almost two decades? Do not write about what you do not understand and you will be happy.
  38. +2
    28 July 2021 11: 03
    Quote: Mikhail Tynda
    What are the tears about?

    About the fact that at present it should be paid, if adequate, in 100 thousand, and not in 30-40.
    Otherwise, there is a very noticeable drain of personnel of the rolling stock - the load on those who remain increases - safety falls, health is undermined - those who remain are also inclined to leave.
    It will take time and ... money to restore the attractiveness of the profession and fill the needs! And more money than the managers saved on "optimizations".
    So it was with the army and the police, with health care - wherever they tried to save a lot - time and personnel were lost, but money in the state did not become easier.
    Maybe our economists are defective, and you can save much more on them than on pensioners, officers or doctors, teachers, and in this case - machinists and switchmen?
  39. 0
    28 July 2021 12: 58
    Something new, to the archive, to the archive.
  40. +1
    28 July 2021 15: 20
    "Author" why are you deleting comments? Does the truth from the professionals in the industry "described" by you cut eyes? I have 20 years of experience, I have traveled all over the country from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, and do you think that my opinion is not correct? Download the textbook on OKZhD, the user of the news agency "one woman said at the bazaar." Write more, your shame should be visible to everyone!
  41. 0
    28 July 2021 22: 02
    Interesting, interesting ... well, the author will write and this will intersect with my realities and feelings ... the family touch of the "piece of iron" ..
  42. +1
    28 July 2021 22: 45
    What did the author want to say? I tried to say it for a long time, the steam went out to the whistle, and the locomotive remained standing still. The only thing that has become new for me is that the state owns 49% of the shares. I thought it was more than 50. Here is the price of the article and electricity spent on reading empty text.
  43. +2
    28 July 2021 23: 23
    95% water
    It was possible to keep within 2-3 paragraphs
  44. 0
    28 July 2021 23: 54
    In 2018, the office ... acquired 3500 brand new gondola cars from UVZ .... about 1500 in the very first year of operation had to be urgently repaired in the amount of TP2 ... acquisition ... and not always honestly acted ... armored troop-carrier tanks and so on ... but in the carriage business at the Uvz there is a jamb on a jamb ... we independently modified, introduced changes into the design and successfully began to operate trial batch ..... so uvz through Fazht Ministry of Transport and others banned .... like this.
  45. +1
    29 July 2021 00: 01
    Dobaalyu the rest of 2000 were repaired the next year .... bought in December, put it into operation in January, and in March it's time to fix the ayay.
    So the GDP bent us down and we bought another 4000 cars ... of the same quality ...
    1. 0
      29 July 2021 10: 30
      Quote: Ashim4891
      Dobaalyu the rest of 2000 were repaired the next year .... bought in December, put it into operation in January, and in March it's time to fix the ayay.
      So the GDP bent us down and we bought another 4000 cars ... of the same quality ...


      UVZ drives trash.
      Their civilian technology has never been distinguished by quality.
      I took several excavators and skid steer loaders - so-so, all worse than Chinese in quality, in terms of resource three times
  46. 0
    29 July 2021 05: 41
    Yes, there is nothing to write about. It is enough to look through - we have the same thing, only subsidies are less ...
  47. +2
    29 July 2021 06: 14
    Author, where is "Mina"? The article is about what? Just a bunch of letters, words and no logic ...
  48. 0
    29 July 2021 07: 33
    General words, there are no tables that would confirm the statement about the growth of emergency situations. There is no evidence of a decrease in the ability to transport goods. There are no numbers or sentences at all. Minus article. Although we are waiting for the continuation, maybe there will be something specific.
  49. -1
    29 July 2021 07: 57
    And if we speak seriously, then only to the railway, because this state does not have its own road carriers. They stayed in the USSR. So if we can count on something, then yes, only on Russian Railways.


    Seriously speaking, even the eternal and most loyal client in the form of the Russian Post has reduced, in comparison with the USSR, to a minimum the use of the services of Russian Railways. If in Soviet times mail was delivered exclusively by train to the settlements where the "piece of iron" was laid, now the Russian Post uses a train only for delivery to large regional cities and in the region it delivers everything by road.
    Russian Railways sells literally everything (from selling "on a brick" those very popularly nicknamed railway booths (stone houses at a certain distance from each other in which a railway lineman used to live) built in the 19th century, railway gantry cranes for metal, closing railway crossings to the banal demolition of railway toilets at stations.
    So by piece of iron, then military equipment can be delivered to any point in Russia, only there will be nothing to unload it (railway gantry cranes were left only in large cities and in the rest they were cut into metal) and soon there is no one (the staff is reduced to a minimum).
    By the way, the unloading of Russian military equipment from trains in the outback became full-length in 2014, when the equipment delivered to the "outback" on the border with Ukraine by railroad trains could not be unloaded for several days (in some cases, even earth embankments on the rails were equipment could move out. And most importantly, all this is a mess on a piece of iron on the territory of the Western Military District

    The state of the piece of iron is nowhere worse, the only exception is resort areas and railway communication with big cities. If you do not pay further to the problem, it turns out that there is a railway, but it is dangerous to drive along it at a speed of more than 25 km per hour for safety reasons (analogous to the same asphalt road in continuous pits) and it will not work to unload at the final point.
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  51. +2
    29 July 2021 11: 53
    the author simply “poured water”. Any driver is required to apply emergency braking. This is recorded on the speedometer tape, where you can clearly see at what kilometer at what speed you were driving and when you used it. And investigators will first seize this tape. No fairy tales like the manual is in the know, we agreed here, they will not help make the locomotive driver guilty. The PTE is written clearly and in black and white. Emergency braking. In one thing only the author is right. With a train weight of 3400 tons, from a speed of 60-70 km/h during emergency braking, the braking distance will be at least 800 meters or even more. This is not a car. Even if there is only one locomotive and this is already 156 tons or more in weight. How strong will the blow be? It's like hitting a baseball with a bat. So, when leaving for a move, remember! They are waiting for you at home. and your relatives will bury you. But in the case of a pedestrian on the railway tracks, this is definitely a headache; it would be better not to slow down. Even though it sounds disgusting, no matter how strange it may seem. You apply the brakes and this bastard will go away, and then tell me whether it was a pedestrian or not. This is a case from my practice. There were no photo recording tools like there are in a car then, and even now it’s probably not possible everywhere. I applied it, and the little man walked away, and there was a mark on the tape and I reported to the dispatcher the reason for the stop. Received a reprimand on the form and a bonus bye bye.
  52. 0
    29 July 2021 21: 10
    Let's wait for the publication of the entire promised series, and then we will "spread rot" or exalt the author
  53. +1
    30 July 2021 21: 10
    what is this article about? that three fools flew under a diesel locomotive?
  54. 0
    30 July 2021 23: 30
    Now there is no Ministry of Railways, there is JSC Russian Railways, 49% of the shares of which belong to the state.


    It was interesting that the Ministry of Railways (the Ministry of Fathers and Sons deciphered it in common people), and now, honestly, 51% belongs to God knows who (because the final beneficiary is unknown). Here's the poll:

    Can you really count on railway transport in the event of a war?

    Options (especially extended ones) are welcome
  55. +1
    1 August 2021 16: 52
    Every paragraph I thought, well, the next paragraph will start to get interesting. And bam!
    The end of the article.
  56. 0
    3 August 2021 10: 44
    when it is necessary to transport tanks, everyone will be stopped and tanks will be transported, what the fuck are you doing?

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