"How to develop production in Ukraine": Ukrainian users react to the fact that An-74 will be assembled in Canada

Ukrainian multipurpose aircraft An-74 will now be assembled in Canada. Its project is being modernized, based on the An-74TK-200 version.

This information has been officially confirmed by the state concern Ukroboronprom on its Facebook page.

Final assembly will take place at manufacturing facilities in Ukraine and Canada.

As the Canadian company Capital Hill Group (CHG), which has been specializing in interaction with government agencies of the country for the past 25 years, said on its website, Antonov and the government of Quebec are ready to facilitate the signing of an agreement on the production of An-74TK-200 aircraft in Quebec for international markets. , including North American.

In the basic version, this aircraft is designed to carry 52 passengers or cargo weighing up to 10 tons on international short and medium-range air routes. Its main feature is its ability to operate in harsh arctic conditions.

For this project, Antonov has already created a subsidiary company Antonov Aircraft Canada in March. The company first denied this information on its website, but then removed the disclaimer text.

Ukrainian readers commenting on news, are unhappy with the fact that the production is organized outside the country. After all, local businesses are not too busy with orders anyway:

How can we develop production in Ukraine if we ourselves take it abroad? Taxes will also be paid in Canada. Where is the logic?

Comments

[VORON538]

The production of aircraft got "visa-free" and went where it is better :)))

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Aircraft production got "visa-free" and went where it is better:

The aircraft industry is a high value-added industry, and the North American owners of Ukraine will never allow Aboriginal people to have a high-tech industry. The lot of the aborigines is to grow rapeseed, the Maidan stood for this.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

The lot of the aborigines is to grow rape,

Yes to sell black soil

[hrych]

When statehood is accidental, then the state begins to fall apart. When the rocket-space, aviation, shipbuilding and other industries were not created by this state, but were inherited by chance, then these industries are doomed. Got this plane and the Canadians stole it

[Seryoga64]

Quote: hrych

Got this plane and the Canadians stole it

Yes, they did not steal. Bought at a cheap price

[hrych]

Stole on the cheap

[Seryoga64]

It is possible and so to say

[Barberry25]

it will be funny when it turns out later that the rights to Antonov's planes belong to the Canadians and the Ukrainians will already pay Canada.

[S. Sergei]

They will not have to pay, because they will not release it. I have no doubt that if Canadians have no rights, they will have them.

[Atlant-1164]

let them deepen and expand confusion .. and lgbt culture !! Europe will come from the United States to sex tours. instead of Thailand.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Atlant-1164

to come from the USA to sex tours. instead of Thailand.

And what, much cheaper

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Seryoga64

And what, much cheaper

European girls in Ukraine are really the cheapest ... Taek and ingrain there is very little

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: aybolyt678

Quote: Seryoga64

And what, much cheaper

European girls in Ukraine are really the cheapest ... Taek and ingrain there is very little

Dutch woman in Paris 150 euros 20 minutes. For the whole night - a thousand. Skaklushka 10 minutes - 10 euros, all night - 200 euros.

The information is not mine - I love my wife. The driver shared his observations with the security service - I overheard and gave money for antibiotics ...

[Mikhalych 70]

20 minutes?! And some somersaults?

[svp67]

Quote: VORON538

Aircraft production got "visa-free" and went where it is better :)))

It went to where you can get the necessary set of components and assemblies.
An-74 is a Soviet development and it contains a lot of what is produced in Russia. Now it is almost impossible to get them directly from Russia, it is easier to organize such an enterprise in Canada.
Yes, you can abandon Russian components and install everything Western, but it will no longer be the An-74, it will be a new aircraft requiring all certifications, which is neither cheap nor fast, and most importantly, such an aircraft will be much more expensive.

[Avior]

actually they write in the article

Final assembly will take place at manufacturing facilities in Ukraine and Canada.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Avior

actually they write in the article

Final assembly will take place at manufacturing facilities in Ukraine and Canada.

Have come ... A nuclear missile power with a full production cycle ... It remains only to supply fat from Israel - from Poland it is no longer dumb ...

[Avior]

otherwise, the North American market will not enter.
and he is the key to other markets.

[svp67]

Quote: Avior

Final assembly will take place at manufacturing facilities in Ukraine and Canada.

They also write a lot on fences and sheds ..

[Dikson]

Well .. business nowadays is generally transcontinental, international .. - it does not matter where the money is earned and what nationality the workers will be turning the screws .. Maybe this Canadian company is, in general, a veiled Russian "daughter" under cover to lure a normal car into our market ? All the more so if it contains our components? Somehow, after all, normal firms, for which economic cooperation is more important than political adventures, manage to bypass sanctions and bans?

[Simon]

Of course, the Ukrainian government is doing everything to make life worse for the people of Ukraine!

[Babay Atasovich]

Well, soon "Antonov" will live on patents in a one-room office. .... SUCH KB was!

[TermNachTer]

Yeah, "Ana" has already been produced in Saudi Arabia))) Arabs received all the intellectual rights and sent Banderastas on an erotic journey on foot. Canada has its own aircraft production, no one will make aircraft of the 70s of the last century.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: TermNachTER

nobody will make airplanes of the 70s of the last century.

Are you saying that the BEST, for example, airborne aircraft of all times and peoples is an outdated last century? By your logic of the latest iPhones ... God forbid someone to meet with those whom this "obsolete" will throw on their heads ... They taught to tear without a machine gun. Not everyone was taught, but WE can do it.

[TermNachTer]

I meant that there is no point in launching "bare metal" production of 50-year-old aircraft, especially since Canada produces its own. However, I strongly doubt that Kharkiv will be able to do them. As far as I know, there are two gliders left from the old stock - they can be brought to mind. But the new ones, most likely, will not be.

[Pete mitchell]

Let's see: chickens are counted in the fall. When they assemble it there, they will stuff it with the equipment and engines there - how much will it cost and whether it will be really interesting.

[Terenin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Let's see: chickens are counted in the fall. When they assemble it there, they will stuff it with the equipment and engines there - how much will it cost and whether it will be really interesting.

And, the true owners can force him to buy their vassals.

[Pete mitchell]

it seems to me that we are talking about civilians, and there the priority is profit: I sincerely doubt that they will be able to provide. The machine is decent, but assembled there - as if because of its value it did not lose its attractiveness, and the after-sales support ... chickens are counted in the fall

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Terenin

And, the true owners can force him to buy their vassals.

The true owners THERE do not need anything - everything was bought for $ 2 in the first half of the 90s. What was not sold in the 90s was sold "for the glory of independence" in the early 2000s and after 2014 ...

Hello !!! Fly in !! The country sells other people's secrets for candy ...
Is the candy even sweet, or does it smell like an unwashed part of an American Negro?

after 23 years of brainwashing, most of the population believed that being a brother to a Russian is worse than being a slave to a negro.

[Terenin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

after 23 years of brainwashing, most of the population believed that being a brother to a Russian is worse than being a slave to a negro.

exactly. They will teach them bad things. And rightly so.

[Tagan]

In my opinion, this is some kind of fiction. A competitor to their own companies (Canadian), which are not in the best position. Even here it is not that))

[Egoza]

Quote: Tagan

A competitor to their own companies (Canadian), which are not in the best position. Even here it is not that))

Well, a direct competitor! But the "diaspora" will be happy, here it is help to Ukraine from Canada, there is something to answer to the groans that the Ukrainians there are not helping their former "Nenka". No to collect money, but send it to Kiev! They took our plane to their place! Rightly judged that the Canadian branch will steal less. )))

[Terenin]

Quote: Egoza

But the "diaspora" will be happy, here it is help to Ukraine from Canada

DiYaspora, this is only when the throat is broken, and when the financial gain or decline, then - my hut is on the edge ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Terenin

DiYaspora, this is only when to break the throat ...

This public should be avoided altogether - sheer harm: while all is well - they will be happy to teach how to live according to the modern; it will become bad - they will knock down and will not say goodbye

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Egoza

But the "diaspora" will be happy,

For which I constantly scold Joseph Vissarionych and agree with the liberals on the only issue. On the wave of Victory I WAS OVERWARDED, I DIDN'T expect it ... He released THIS into the woods, into emigration ... What prevented him from stopping Operation Paperclip with ONE MOVEMENT of an EYEBROW?

Iosif Vissarionych failed to work ... And now we have Yukrein and Gozmanov having to eat ...

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Tagan

In my opinion, this is some kind of fiction. A competitor to their own companies (Canadian), which are not in the best position. Even here it is not that))

This is a division of technologies and their appropriation. China and Canada have already received theirs.

[donavi49]

And the Canadians have nothing to offer. Hercules - well, that's understandable and it's not Canadian. Bombardier 100% airport liner with infrastructure, albeit with good winter survivability.

Dash-8 is a turboprop, also a liner. It is more like the Il-114, and not like the An-74. Although it flies around Kamchatka, Alaska, northern territories, Greenland.

415 and the 515 being created now - this is the hero of the firefighter, the naval patrolman and so on. Yes, he can fly to undeveloped land and sit in a field (river / lake). But he carries 10-12 people and quite a bit of cargo (3 tons), while the An-74 carries 6 tons of cargo and 12 people in mixed or up to 50 people in passenger.

[Model101]

donavi49
It's nice to read a competent comment, but not uryaklu.

[Black lotos]

Quote: Model101

It's nice to read a competent comment, but not uryaklu.

a rarity, thanks to donavi49 for the only commentary in the 2012 Military Review style. It's almost history now ..
It is quite possible - if there is a need. And Canada does.

[Amba412]

Read about the Canadian firm that entered into this agreement. Purely divorce of Ukrainians for money. There is nothing there. Almost a private person. What kind of planes?

[Zoldat_A]

The last photo is an AN-72 SOVIET, not a "Ukrainian" assembly. I saw him in the army, at the airfield. Then it was "promising and multipurpose." Not an expert flyer, never, the opinion of an amateur. Communication with the air is limited by the fact that this dilettante is thrown on the enemy's head from there. Into the mouth of the enemy. In order to break this mouth.
Not my words - the Great Vasily Filippych ...

[donavi49]

The An-74T-200A model is even written there. 4 aircraft were built. Specifically, the plane in the photo made its first flight on October 30, 2010. If we take the An-74, then about 10 aircraft have been built since 2000. The latter were transmitted after 14 years. So, the competencies for transferring the issue to Canada are quite real.

[Alexander Betonkin]

Taxes will also be paid in Canada. Where is the logic?[i] [/ i]
I agree, the logic is zero.

[Orange bigg]

Looks like someone will soon receive Canadian citizenship and move there for permanent residence. I think so.

[mole]

The electricity is cheaper there.

[URAL72]

Logics? What is it?

[Model101]

Quote: Alexander Betonkin

Taxes will also be paid in Canada. Where is the logic?[i] [/ i]
I agree, the logic is zero.

Bandera friends live there, that's the whole logic.

[Ros 56]

And what will be its price, because the salary of Canadians will have to be paid not in Khokhlyatsky tugriks and not in the same amount as for the local Papuans of zhovto-blakitnykh.

[Orange bigg]

Antonov will not pay the salary, but the Canadian firm Antonov Aircraft Canada. And this is another legal entity operating under the laws of another country. It's just that the documentation was leaked to this company and the development of production there was promoted, and the company can eventually be renamed or bought out.

... As the Canadian company Capital Hill Group (CHG), which has been specializing in interaction with government agencies of the country for the past 25 years, said on its website, Antonov and the government of Quebec are ready to facilitate the signing of an agreement on the production of An-74TK-200 aircraft in Quebec for international markets. , including North American.

For this project, Antonov has already created a subsidiary company Antonov Aircraft Canada in March. The company first denied this information on its website, but then removed the text of the denial.

[Avior]

created a subsidiary company Antonov Aircraft Canada

it is a subsidiary, it turns out

[Ros 56]

In that case, what does the puppy have to do with it? Except perhaps for the glass beads, they gave the technical documentation. And it is not known what will come of it in the end, competitors are not needed anywhere.

[Sandor Clegane]

A good plane, in my opinion, this one flew in our north ... they could have assembled it in Voronezh, but Bandera decided differently and now he is in Canada, not surprised

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

A good plane, in my opinion, this one flew in our north ...

It may well

Its main feature is its ability to operate in harsh arctic conditions.

[Alexander 3]

This plane was driven by a Cheburashka. A good plane. Again, the Banderlog's mind was replaced by races, again, everything is technologically advanced. Their industry will be completely destroyed. So I think the territory will be divided soon.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Alexander 3

So I think, and the territory will soon be divided.

They're already at a low start

[Looking for]

Yes, in Kharkov, already 10 years ago, stocks were sold for scrap.

[TermNachTer]

Well, the last one was handed over to Kazakhs in 2016 or 2017. Although gliders may have been from the past years.

[Dikson]

Great car for the Arctic .. It's a shame. We also have them. Where are we going to get spare parts now? And more about North America - The Yakutia Railways JSC has begun testing diesel locomotives of the 2TE3250 series produced by Progress Rail of the Caterpillar railway division, assembled at a plant in Chicago. The locomotives were built for trial operation in Russia using the most modern technologies. One of the main advantages of a foreign locomotive is its ability to operate on a fuel mixture of 20 percent diesel fuel and 80 percent gas. Due to this, the operation is much cheaper and the harm to the environment is minimized. One refueling should be enough for five to six thousand kilometers ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Dikson

Where are we going to get spare parts now?

At home, in the same place where they took it. Non-brothers have not supplied us with spare parts for a long time, but "ANs" have flown and are flying. They are also being repaired in Russia.

[Pivot]

You can't mix gas with a diesel engine. This is a conventional gas-diesel engine. Ignition is on a diesel engine, and the rest of the combustion is on methane, it is possible on propane-Butane, but then more diesel will be needed. This scheme can be applied to our diesel locomotive engines, there is nothing complicated there, the main cost will go to cryo tanks for liquefied methane,

[tralflot1832]

Who knows, and where does our AN 72nd serve?

[Piramidon]

Quote: tralflot1832

Who knows, and where does our AN 72nd serve?

Medium and major repairs at the 325 aircraft repair plant in Taganrog.

[Avior]

And where are the engines from, I wonder?
An-72 is equipped with a specific turbofan D-36 produced by Zaporizhzhya Motor Sich, and the development is also Zaporizhzhya.
It is impossible for engines to extend the resource endlessly ...

[askort154]

Ukrainian multipurpose aircraft An-74 will now be assembled in Canada.

Ukraine "has grown wiser" - is selling the remnants of the Ukrainian SSR. Previously, I broke everything for free, to please the United States and to spite Russia. I was especially proud to have cut 8 pieces. Tu-160, special equipment from the United States. (I won't eat everything Russian, but I'll take a bite)
Now Canada has undertaken to squeeze out of it the remnants left over from the Ukrainian SSR. But for Ukraine, these are trifles, she has already decided to sell her body - selling land to foreigners. But this is a completely different topic.

[agoran]

Again blah blah.
Here they will collect at least one, and then you can discuss.
How many projects have already been out of 404, but they have remained cardboard copies.

[cniza]

How can we develop production in Ukraine if we ourselves take it abroad? Taxes will also be paid in Canada. Where is the logic?

Look at the Baltics and you will understand why, you are in E.S. want to?

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

How can we develop production in Ukraine if we ourselves take it abroad? Taxes will also be paid in Canada. Where is the logic?

Look at the Baltics and you will understand why, you are in E.S. want to?

Victor, who are you saying this to? Useless. They always have someone and something to blame, but not them.

[cniza]

And no matter what they say later, why didn't you warn us, I know their nature ...

[Xlor]

An-74 will be assembled in Canada

It is better for Svidomo skakuas to pick strawberries in Poland than airplanes.
They do it better ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Xlor

It is better for Svidomo skakuas to collect strawberries in Poland,

Well, someone to collect strawberries, someone to wash toilets, and someone on Okruzhnaya and Tverskaya to stand

[Prisoner]

When it comes to Ukrainian statements, the main thing is not to jump to conclusions. Wait. Usually then everything dissolves by itself until new "grandiose" plans. Ukraine is a "power" with a planned economy. Some plans and mriyas. With business, of course, the seams, but what are the plans. Real jam.

[businessv]

Quote: Mole

The electricity is cheaper there.

But not all new houses have been equipped with them due to the long queue, due to the lack of specialists! Minusators, do not get excited, infa first-hand and this is the case! New territories are being developed, communications are started on time, but connecting houses is a problem! And the electrician in the houses too. They have been calling for a long time, they are proposing a joint one, but as I imagine how many our specialists will have to look for and arrange everything, they give up. I tried to throw it over to the Chinese, but it’s cold for them, it doesn’t suit them. Sorry to be off topic, just replied to the post!

[Seamaster]

So far - mriyas and ideas. They have NOT already produced Ana in Azerbaijan. Already NOT produced by Anas in Saudi Arabia. Ana has NOT been produced in Iran already. Now ANA will NOT be produced in Canada. And there are still many, many countries left where you can NOT produce Ana.

[Wahmister 1970]

Forgot Russia

[Pavel73]

So you need to rejoice! Ukraine is joining such a longed-for West.

[Wahmister 1970]

This is called the simple word localization.
Your Fords are released, also localization

[Maikcg]

We are at least let out, but not only everyone can enter into Ukrainian memoranda.

[Wahmister 1970]

Whose manufacture are Ford knots?
probably the plant will tighten, however, the sanctions.

[bang]

Maybe the Canadians have conceived a competitor for the "Be-200" from "Ana" to make? All the same, they need to make a new car for production. )

[RRRinat]

Grow what you sow!

[opposite28]

How can we develop production in Ukraine if we ourselves take it abroad? Taxes will also be paid in Canada. Where is the logic

The logic is in the same place as Canada, correctly far from Mother Russia, therefore, the production was taken out further, the planes must fly.

[Keer]

What's in Canada, what's on Mars. They do not collect any such litaks. Cut for a hundred.

[Evil troll]

It is obvious that wealthy Ukrainians, following the example of other developed countries, are moving production to places where labor is cheaper.

[aszzz888]

Ukrainian readers commenting on the news are dissatisfied with the fact that the production is organized outside the country.

And who, ever, what did they ask? Naive fools.

[tolmachiev51]

Payback for "lace panties" - gods !!!

[Zaurbek]

10 years ago there was an interview with the owner of ROSTSELMASH, who bought a company in Canada for tractors and combines. And he explained on his fingers that it is cheaper to produce there than in Rostov. Then something changed and production was moved (completely or not - I don't know)

[KCA]

Bombardier is resting, AN is driving, nun

[APASUS]

Taxes will also be paid in Canada. Where is the logic?

The logic is there: all the money will be in Canada, you don't even need to withdraw it, and any amount can be laundered through the production of aircraft.

[GAndr]

"Cheburashka" is a great car. It was in great demand in the PV troops when I served, I don't know how it is now. It's a pity that such a machine will now be produced and serve for the enemy :(

[RFR1993Family]

What did you want from the SALES GOVERNMENT?)