"He admires Stalin": Saakashvili spoke about how he met with Putin

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The Ukrainian media continue to publish "revelations" and conjectures of the ex-president of Georgia and the former head of the Odessa region, Mikhail Saakashvili. Some time ago, Saakashvili, reporting on the events of 2014, said that it was the United States that "urged Ukraine not to respond to Russia in Crimea." According to the ex-president of Georgia, the Americans warned Kiev against "Saakashvili's mistake." The ex-head of the Odessa Regional State Administration said that if Ukraine had decided to resist the Russian military in Crimea, then everything could have ended more sadly for her.

This time Saakashvili announced a detail that is "common for Putin and Stalin." According to the man who today heads the Ukrainian executive committee of the National Council for Reforms, "when he met with Vladimir Putin, he talked about his admiration for Joseph Stalin."



According to Saakashvili, in the biography of the Russian president "there is a connection with Stalin." From an interview with the ex-president of Georgia to one of the Ukrainian TV channels:

When he showed me Stalin's dacha near Moscow, he was proud that his grandfather worked as a cook for Stalin. In general, he talked endlessly about his grandfather. And he always commented: here Stalin slept, here he drank from this tea service. Everything that he showed looked modest. But you must understand: he worships Stalin, admires him.

Saakashvili also said that the Russian president showed him Stalin's office.

Saakashvili:

Putin then says to me: Stalin was modest, he worked in a modest office. I make important decisions in this office.

It is not entirely clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements for Ukrainian TV viewers. What's this? - an attempt to intimidate Ukraine with the name of Stalin? If so, then it looks frankly ridiculous.
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  1. +9
    25 July 2021 07: 19
    The Ukrainian media continue to publish "revelations" and conjectures of the ex-president of Georgia and the former head of the Odessa region, Mikhail Saakashvili.

    Is this the one who is being demanded to be extradited to Georgia? wink
    1. +13
      25 July 2021 07: 29
      Why are there so many idiots in politics? And in the political circles of non-independent countries: Ukraine, Georgia, Poland, the Baltic states ... in general, there are only oligophrenics - what kind of medical paradox? laughing
      1. +33
        25 July 2021 07: 33
        Quote: Finches
        Why are there so many idiots in politics?

        They are not ! They are sub-leaks! Interestingly, where does the "admiration for VVP Comrade Stalin" go when not even his portrait is hung on Victory Day? Sahak would have better told how the museum of I.V. Stalin in Gori.
        1. +6
          25 July 2021 07: 43
          Quote: Egoza
          Interestingly, where does the "admiration for VVP Comrade Stalin" go when not even his portrait is hung on Victory Day?


          10 monuments to Stalin in modern Russia, preserved or opened with public funds or on a private initiative :

          1) The bust of Stalin was opened in Tambov on May 8, 2010 on the private territory of JSC Tambovagropromkomplekt. A plaster bust of local communists was presented by their Ossetian comrades as a sign of gratitude for the humanitarian aid provided during the conflict with Georgia. The Generalissimo spent some time underground.

          2) In the village of Khoroshevo, Rzhevsky district, Tver region, a monument to Stalin was unveiled in the summer of 2015. The memorial was placed near the house where Supreme Commander-in-Chief Joseph Stalin spent the night from 4 to 5 August 1943 and gave the order to hold the first salute in Moscow in honor of the troops that liberated Oryol and Belgorod during the Battle of Kursk.

          3) The monument to Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill in Yalta was erected in 2015 on the site where the meeting of the leaders of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition took place, which actually determined the post-war world order.

          4) In the village of Konyovo, Arkhangelsk region, near the local substation, there is a full-length monument to Stalin. Most likely, the sculpture is not new, but preserved from the 1950s.

          5) The monument in Yakutsk was opened in 2013 on the territory of the office of a diamond mining company. It is a 2,5 meter high bronze figure. The monument was created by masters from North Ossetia; it was installed with donations from the residents of the city.

          6) In Moscow, a bust was installed on the grave near the Kremlin wall nine years after the body was removed from the Mausoleum. It was the first new monument to Stalin in the USSR after 1961.

          7) In St. Petersburg, at the corner of Kommuna and Otechestvennaya streets, in the early 1950s, two pylons were erected in honor of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War. They are decorated with bas-relief images of Lenin and Stalin and five-pointed stars in wreaths. The portrait of the generalissimo was hidden behind a special bar, but during the restoration for the sixtieth anniversary of the Victory in 2005, it was reopened.

          8) There is also a monument to Stalin in the shady front garden of a private house in Lashmanka, Cheremshan district of the Republic of Tatarstan. It was found during one of his trips to Samara by a resident of the village, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War and a committed communist Akhtyam Srurtdinov, restored and installed in 2000.

          9) In the village of Vyritsa, Leningrad region, a local resident - a former paratrooper, and now a military pensioner Alexander Svyatov - installed a sculpture in his yard in 2013. He describes the history of the appearance of this monument in a vague way - "he dug it out about eight years ago." But with pride he talks about how popular his find is.

          10) A new monument to Stalin was opened in the village of Sosnovka, Khabarovsk Territory in 2019. The image of the leader was made by an Ossetian sculptor at the initiative of a local resident Georgy Abiyev, next to whose house it was installed. The three-meter monument consists of a red cylindrical pedestal and a gilded bust.
          1. +3
            25 July 2021 08: 01
            he worships Stalin, admires him.

            I have never seen it. Maybe he does it in deep secrecy?

            As for Saakashvili, it is purely diplomacy. How to accept one Georgian in Moscow not to admire another Georgian, pretending to be involved!

            In reality, the Bolsheviks only planted mines on him. He talks about it and even writes now.
            1. +7
              25 July 2021 08: 05
              Quote: Stas157
              As for Saakashvili, this is purely diplomacy. How to accept one Georgian in Moscow not to admire another Georgian, pretending to be involved!


              Iosif Vissarionovich, of course, out of habit is considered a Georgian, but historians recently "got to the bottom" that he is Ossetian, and "shvili" in the Georgian manner, was added to the surname after the resettlement of their family to Gori ...
              1. +13
                25 July 2021 10: 05
                There is something to admire Stalin for!

                When Stalin died in 1953, most Soviet people sincerely really cried out of grief that their LEADER was not alive! Ordinary people really worried about what would happen to them and the country without Stalin! How will they then live without Stalin ?!
                Even for this, Khrushchev envied Stalin and hated Stalin!
                Khrushchev Stalin as the leader of the Soviet country did not fit a candle!

                In this sense, I also respect Stalin and admire him.

                1. +6
                  25 July 2021 10: 26
                  Stalin said everything correctly. It is a pity that in 1991 Stalin was not in the Soviet Union.

                  1. +1
                    25 July 2021 16: 48
                    Sahak, I think, is chatting about Putin to give weight to himself. And the fact that Putin admires Stalin, he is lying. Paying, like all normal people, tribute to the personal humility of Joseph Vissarionovich, Vladimir Vladimirovich, in my opinion, greatly underestimates his qualities as a politician and head of state. I'm not sure that he admires anyone at all, even those about whom he speaks well: Peter the Great, Alexander III, Sobchak, Solzhenitsyn and Kolchak. The darkest - it is precisely said.
                2. -9
                  25 July 2021 12: 11
                  In Korea, too, everyone cries when another dictator dies.
                3. +8
                  25 July 2021 13: 02
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  There is something to admire Stalin for!

                  Not certainly in that way. It is impossible not to admire Stalin. As for Putin, he has one problem, he is "not enough Stalin."
            2. +1
              25 July 2021 08: 44
              Quote: Stas157
              I have never seen it. Maybe he does it in deep secrecy?

              Yeah, on quiet nights, in the bunker, he takes out his old party card, hangs a portrait of Stalin on the wall and lets out a mean man's tear.))))
              1. +1
                25 July 2021 08: 57
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                and lets out a mean man's tear.))))

                And the International sings, accompanying itself with one finger on the piano ...
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          2. +6
            25 July 2021 10: 53
            Quote: PiK
            10 monuments to Stalin in modern Russia

            I will add that in the Museum of the Great Patriotic War, a bust of Stalin is also installed next to the entrance:
        2. 0
          25 July 2021 08: 07
          And what did Comrade Stalin do with the traitors, with the shape-shifting communists who changed their ideology by 180 degrees and began to serve the other side?
          1. -5
            25 July 2021 09: 14
            Quote: Stas157
            And what did Comrade Stalin do with the traitors, with the shape-shifting communists who changed their ideology by 180 degrees and began to serve the other side?

            Shoot..
          2. 0
            28 July 2021 06: 13
            .. Count Dracula, the same people did not spare .., let alone foreign people .. - God himself ordered to plant on the stakes ..
        3. +1
          25 July 2021 08: 20
          Quote: Egoza
          Where does the "admiration for VVP Comrade Stalin" go when not even his portrait is hung on Victory Day?

          What flag is flying over our country? (http://fct-altai.ru/files/2021/Tricolor_09_04_2021.doc)
          In the 90s, those who opposed Stalin won, and it would be strange that they would hang out his portrait. Rather, Hitler will be hanged out than Stalin.



          Thanks to the constitutional amendments made by Putin, the autumn elections to the Duma will be held under the new rules. I hope that the updated Duma will finally adopt the "Law on the Constitutional Assembly" and Chapters 1, 2 and 9 will be changed, and until then no significant changes are expected in our life.
          1. -7
            25 July 2021 09: 16
            Quote: Boris55
            Thanks to the amendments to the Constitution made by Putin, the autumn elections to the Duma will be held under the new rules

            136% will vote for eating Russia?
            1. +4
              25 July 2021 09: 21
              Quote: Svarog
              136% will vote for eating Russia?

              What prevents you from joining the ranks of the EP and changing its essence according to your convictions?

              ps
              By the way, according to the new rules, Grudinin from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation was struck off the list of candidates for the Duma - there is no need to keep money abroad.

              pss
              For my first post, there were already 4 chelas wishing to see the portrait of Hitler at our parade ...
              1. -6
                25 July 2021 10: 20
                Quote: Boris55
                By the way, according to the new rules, Grudinin was struck out from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation from the list of candidates for the Duma

                Who would doubt that. The clearing is being cleaned.

                But it should be noted that both old and new rules are selective. If you are a United Russia party - a power pleasing (be it a thief or even a murderer), then you can do more, and they look at your sins loyally. But if you are an opponent - a boatwalker, then to the fullest extent. They will even find an article that would seem to be inapplicable. Or two, as with Platoshkin.
          2. -4
            25 July 2021 10: 00
            Quote: Boris55
            Thanks to Putin's amendments to the Constitution,

            Putin has been reset. That's all the amendments.
            1. +1
              25 July 2021 14: 20
              Quote: Karabin
              Putin has been reset. That's all the amendments.

              They put a bolt on the ECHR with their demands to legalize same-sex marriages - also a consequence of the amendments.
          3. -3
            25 July 2021 11: 02
            Quote: Boris55
            the autumn elections to the Duma will be held under the new rules.

            What are the new rules? Lack of online cameras at the polling stations, so as not to interfere with rigging the results?
            1. -5
              25 July 2021 11: 10
              Quote: Hyperion
              Lack of online cameras at the polling stations, so as not to interfere with rigging the results?

              It's just that the rating is falling. It was necessary to urgently do something!
              1. +1
                25 July 2021 11: 17
                With these elections, in general, some kind of tin is going on. The Edros have lost all fear. Previously, before the elections, at least some bones were thrown to the electorate, but now they openly put a bolt. Prices do not hold back, wages and pensions are not really raised, there are a lot of conflicting decisions, like pensions for Tajiks ... But Pamfilova does not want to put cameras at polling stations. They will throw in like black. Although Putin also said that cameras are needed, cameras are important. Although Putin said a lot of things, we are dragging ...
          4. 0
            25 July 2021 19: 57
            I honestly don’t understand, you have a country only from 1922 to 1991? And that there was nothing before?
        4. -7
          25 July 2021 09: 02
          Quote: Egoza
          Interestingly, where does the "admiration for VVP Comrade Stalin" go when not even his portrait is hung on Victory Day?

          It's just that he, thus, kind of clings to Stalin and tries to show that if he admires Stalin, then he is ready to imitate him and be the same steel .. But life shows that he is closer to Yeltsin, to whom he opens monuments and wears flowers. In general, a licimer ..
        5. -1
          25 July 2021 10: 41
          I, to be honest, do not even remember the mention in the "speech" on May 9 when I heard it. Maybe someone remembers? Tell the year!
        6. +1
          26 July 2021 01: 35
          Let's slip on a tie for Misha)
      2. +4
        25 July 2021 07: 34
        Quote: Finches
        Why are there so many idiots in politics?

        Because they are not retired or retired
        1. +5
          25 July 2021 08: 04
          So the "tie-expert" is retired.
          Sometimes resignation will heal delirium, and sometimes, like this time, only medicine will help.
          1. +2
            25 July 2021 08: 59
            Quote: Peter is not the first
            So the "tie-expert" is retired.

            This is not a resignation. These are banishment from wherever you can
      3. +1
        25 July 2021 07: 44
        Quote: Finches
        Why are there so many idiots in politics? And in the political circles of non-independent countries: Georgia, Poland, the Baltic states ... in general, there are only oligophrenics - what is this medical paradox?

        hi because for a minimum of work they get a maximum of money.
      4. -15
        25 July 2021 08: 40
        Quote: Finches
        Ukraine, Georgia, Poland, the Baltic States ... in general, only oligophrenics - what a medical paradox?

        Maybe, of course, there are also oligophrenics in power. I do not know about Georgia and Ukraine, but in Poland and the Baltic states, these "oligophrenics" have achieved that the standard of living of the population there is higher than that of us in the Russian Federation. And this with all "our" natural resources and the industry inherited from the USSR, for some reason "our" "wise and patriotic" leadership of the country cannot catch up with them by these indicators.
        1. +10
          25 July 2021 08: 55
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          but in Poland and the Baltics

          Poland sits on subsidies from the European Union, and in the Baltics people are fleeing en masse to work abroad. We have already discussed it a hundred times.
          1. -18
            25 July 2021 09: 04
            Quote: Dart2027
            Poland sits on subsidies from the European Union,

            And our leadership sits on pensioners and the poor .. probably in this respect Poland looks more worthy ..
            and in the Baltics people are fleeing en masse to work abroad.

            And they don't run away with us?
            1. +7
              25 July 2021 11: 16
              Quote: Svarog
              And they don't run away with us?

              Slightly less.
              Quote: Svarog
              probably in this respect Poland looks more worthy.

              Maybe. I remember how much they shouted about this during perestroika, that they say they don't care about pensioners in the USSR, but in Germany or the USA uh.
              1. -2
                25 July 2021 11: 22
                Quote: Dart2027
                Maybe. I remember how much they shouted about this during perestroika, that they say they don't care about pensioners in the USSR, but in Germany or the USA uh.

                Well, yes .. they shouted .. that now the situation has become just such that pensioners are crumbs, and even before retirement it is necessary to survive .. and the state is increasingly throwing off social obligations.
                1. +2
                  25 July 2021 11: 26
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Well, yes .. they shouted .. that now the situation has become

                  One to one slogans of the time. Add the word USSR and you can't tell.
                  1. -4
                    25 July 2021 11: 27
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Well, yes .. they shouted .. that now the situation has become

                    One to one slogans of the time. Add the word USSR and you can't tell.

                    Only now it is true, but then there was a lie ..
                    1. -1
                      25 July 2021 11: 28
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Only now it is true, but then there was a lie ..

                      Oh really? I remember how they showed on TV how veterans live in our country and in Germany, and somehow ours did not impress.
                      1. -2
                        25 July 2021 11: 31
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Only now it is true, but then there was a lie ..

                        Oh really? I remember how they showed on TV how veterans live in our country and in Germany, and somehow ours did not impress.

                        Is it impressive now? On yours now our pensioner lives the same as a pensioner of germany?
                        Only then, the Soviet person was confident in the future, they were not afraid to have children, they were not afraid to be left without work, they were not in mortgage bondage and, although they criticized, they were proud of the country.
                      2. -1
                        25 July 2021 12: 42
                        Quote: Svarog
                        On yours now our pensioner lives the same as a pensioner of germany?

                        That is, nothing has changed since the Soviet era. And what's the point of going back?
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              1. ada
                -2
                25 July 2021 17: 40
                Bravo!!! There are enough and enough people who want to join the well-fed West as a separate state, but not everyone is accepted into the bourgeoisie, although it must be supposed to be recorded regularly. Maybe there are enough of their own? And the rest are needed in the form of a queue of "useful idiots"?
            2. +2
              25 July 2021 11: 19
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Average salaries in the world: https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/srednya-zarplata-v-mire.html

              How much and what can you buy in each country? It also happened a hundred times.
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              I don't give a damn about what Poland is sitting on

              That is, there is nothing to argue.
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              as for the Baltic states, it would be possible for people from the same Mordovia or Chuvashia to go to earn money not to Moscow, but to the European Union

              That is, excuses again.
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              I've already heard your delirium

              that in any country it is better than in Russia.
              Don't be impressed by your low-grade propaganda clichés.
              1. -1
                25 July 2021 13: 52
                Quote: Dart2027
                How much and what can you buy in each country? It also happened a hundred times.

                Interactive Cost of Living Map: https://traveltables.com/map/world/cost-of-living/ see for yourself. The cost of living is not much higher there.
                1. -2
                  25 July 2021 15: 13
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  The cost of living is not much higher there.
                  Your salary link
                  But the gap between the real numbers and the obtained averages remains huge. There is another, more complex method of calculation, but it is used much less often. The data obtained in this way reflects the essence more accurately, but does not solve the general problem.
                  In addition, the concept of "average salary" is an indicator for the calculation of which the accrued income is taken before the payment of state taxes, social charges and payments.
                  That is, in fact, they operate with initially incorrect numbers, since the amount received by employees turns out to be 10–40% less, depending on the country.
                  Source: https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/srednya-zarplata-v-mire.html
                  1. 0
                    25 July 2021 16: 08
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    But the gap between the real numbers and the average figures obtained remains huge.

                    And in the Russian Federation, how is it different?
                    1. -2
                      25 July 2021 18: 46
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      And in the Russian Federation like that

                      Worldwide. This does not change the fact that all these "huge salaries" in the former republics look like primitive lies. There is nowhere for them to come from.
                      1. +1
                        25 July 2021 19: 11
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        This does not change the fact that all these "huge salaries" in the former republics look like primitive lies.

                        Let's say, but exactly the same as in the Russian Federation, the same primitive lie, but the proportions of the salaries remain the same, no?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        There is nowhere for them to come from.

                        There can be no spots in the sun, because they can never be?
                      2. 0
                        26 July 2021 19: 58
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        however, the proportions of salaries remain the same, no

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        How much and what can you buy in each country?

                        And the question is what is the salary of a mere mortal.
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        There can be no spots in the sun

                        And the main question is where it comes from at all - there is no industry, no minerals, transit is blocked too. So where does the money come from?
        2. +7
          25 July 2021 08: 59
          They did not achieve this themselves, but with constant multi-billion dollar injections of the EU and the United States, with a complete carte blanche for everything over the course of decades, but in reality they did not achieve ANYTHING! If your mom and dad would give you billions just like that, would you think the same that a Ferrari under the window of a mansion is your personal achievement? laughing
          1. -6
            25 July 2021 09: 50
            Quote: Finches
            but in reality they did not achieve ANYTHING!

            Estonia's average salary is 1560 euros.
            Latvia average salary is 1217 euros.
            Lithuania average salary - 1419 euros.
            Do you yourself believe that the EU or the US can do something free of charge?
            1. +5
              25 July 2021 09: 52
              You are stupid or something, I beg your pardon, not just like that, but for creating a bridgehead against Russia!
              1. -1
                25 July 2021 10: 12
                Quote: Finches
                Are you stupid or something,

                Zyablitsev, except for rudeness, there are no more arguments?

                Quote: Finches
                but for the creation of a bridgehead against Russia!

                And what then Romania, Moldova, Georgia, etc. don't live so well? Or is that NATO bridgeheads for me? Maybe it’s better to admit that in Poland and the Baltic states, there are no oligophrenics in power?
                1. -2
                  25 July 2021 10: 12
                  They live well, did not know laughing
            2. +5
              25 July 2021 10: 24
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: Finches
              but in reality they did not achieve ANYTHING!

              Estonia's average salary is 1560 euros.
              Latvia average salary is 1217 euros.
              Lithuania average salary - 1419 euros.
              Do you yourself believe that the EU or the US can do something free of charge?

              Oh what a delight fellow And, you still get a job on this salary. The youth unemployment rate in the baltics has exceeded 20%, and the employment rate does not exceed 65% ...
              1. -10
                25 July 2021 10: 49
                And, you still get a job on this salary.
                https://layboard.com/vakansiya/105076/na-rabotu-v-latvii-nuzny-plitocniki-i-plotniki Пожалуйста- 1900 евро\ месяц для строителя в Латвии.
                1. +6
                  25 July 2021 11: 24
                  Installer vacancy in Yamal - 170t.r. Isn't it Europe? laughing
                  1. -4
                    25 July 2021 11: 29
                    The climate, infrastructure and prices in Yamal are not European.
                    1. +6
                      25 July 2021 12: 01
                      That is why men go there to work, and not the aforementioned "youth".
                2. -2
                  25 July 2021 13: 48
                  Please - 1900 euros / month for a builder in Latvia.

                  Our Belarusians do not bring more than $ 1000 from construction sites in the Baltic States, but $ 1000 can be earned at a construction site in Minsk, so no agitation is needed))))
                  1. 0
                    25 July 2021 13: 52
                    As a rule, a good specialist 1500+ has, but with a Belarusian passport, of course, it is more difficult. For 1000 euros, the waiter in Riga was crying that the pay was a penny, but they did not give a tip. And agitation is more on your part.
                    1. -3
                      25 July 2021 13: 54
                      A good specialist 1500+ usually has

                      There are so many good specialists in Minsk)))
                      And agitation is more on your part.

                      An old trick is to translate arrows, right? )))
                      1. -1
                        25 July 2021 13: 56
                        A good specialist has so much in Minsk
                        Why then is he going abroad (Poland / Lithuania)? And you, by the way, are seriously sure that with the real per capita GDP of Lithuania being 4 times higher than the Belarusian one, salaries are equally high both there and there?
                      2. +1
                        25 July 2021 13: 59
                        Why then is he going abroad (Poland / Lithuania)?

                        The main percentage of Belarusians work in Russia, and they bring home more than $ 1000 per month)))
                        Strange, isn't it? You cry about low wages in Russia, but Belarusians do not complain)))
                        Maybe because they are used to working and not demanding? ))))
                      3. -4
                        25 July 2021 14: 09
                        because they are used to working and not demanding?
                        I also work, not demand. I live in England now and Russian earnings are not particularly interesting to me. However, attempts to declare that the European ones below amuse me.
                      4. 0
                        25 July 2021 14: 10
                        I live in England now

                        So why are you shitting here?
                      5. -2
                        25 July 2021 14: 16
                        why shit
                        And you are a courteous and educated interlocutor with remarkable intelligence good ... I communicate here, share my opinion - after all, I do not know the answers to many questions from TV. Again, I use Russian. Well, birches are dreaming, where can we go without them Yes
                      6. +2
                        25 July 2021 14: 20
                        Well, birches are dreaming, where can we go without them

                        I think you dream of the Dead Sea Valley more than birches.
                        Well, by a strange coincidence, all immigrants sit in chorus at Ross.forums and Russophobia with might and main.
                        This is far from a secret - in order to join the Western family of peoples, people must prove their Russophobia)))
                      7. 0
                        25 July 2021 14: 23
                        the valley of the Dead Sea you dream more than birches
                        Azohen wei! Taki revealed me belay
              2. for
                +2
                25 July 2021 12: 05
                Quote: Clear
                And, you still get a job on this salary.

                And you are on our average.
                1. 0
                  25 July 2021 21: 06
                  Quote: for
                  Quote: Clear
                  And, you still get a job on this salary.

                  And you are on our average.

                  How much is your average?
            3. +1
              25 July 2021 11: 20
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Estonia's average salary is 1560 euros.
              Latvia average salary is 1217 euros.
              Lithuania average salary - 1419 euros.

              The average salary, taking into account the entire bureaucratic apparatus, managers, etc.? It was the same.
            4. 0
              25 July 2021 13: 49
              Estonia's average salary is 1560 euros.
              Latvia average salary is 1217 euros.
              Lithuania average salary - 1419 euros.

              Only the tribals do not know about this for some reason)))
              1. -1
                25 July 2021 14: 00
                Quote: lucul
                Only the tribals do not know about this for some reason)))

                Especially for those "gifted characters" who do not know how to use Google I repeat:
                https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/srednya-zarplata-v-mire.html
                1. +2
                  25 July 2021 14: 01
                  Especially for those "gifted characters" who do not know how to use Google I repeat:
                  https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/srednya-zarplata-v-mire.html

                  They also write a lot of things on the fence)))
                  All your agitation, working there by Belarusians, are not confirmed))))
        3. +9
          25 July 2021 09: 04
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          achieved that the standard of living of the population there is higher than that of us in the Russian Federation.

          And this is thanks to the injection of money from the EEC into the economy.
          How can the Balts have a lot of money in the budget without producing or selling anything?
          Previously, they had money for railway transportation, but income from ports
          Now the Russian Federation is reducing all this to zero.
          And they no longer buy sprats from them.
          The only thing is that they are imported through Belarus as Belarusian goods laughing
          Yes, and that will end soon, they angered the dad in earnest laughing
          1. -5
            25 July 2021 09: 26
            Quote: Seryoga64
            How can the Balts have a lot of money in the budget without producing or selling anything?

            We are talking about their standard of living and average salaries:
            https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/srednya-zarplata-v-mire.html
            Quote: Seryoga64
            Previously, they had money for railway transportation, but income from ports
            Now the Russian Federation is reducing all this to zero.
            And they no longer buy sprats from them.
            The only thing is that they are imported through Belarus as a Belarusian product laughing
            Yes, and that will end soon, they angered the dad in earnest

            I have already heard for 20 years about the last hedgehog eaten in the Baltic States, aren't you tired?
            1. +7
              25 July 2021 09: 47
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              I have already heard for 20 years about the last hedgehog eaten in the Baltic States, aren't you tired?

              Well, you don't get bored of constantly talking about salaries in the Baltics. Moreover, you stubbornly do not want to discuss what these salaries are composed of.
              They are trying to talk to you about EU subsidies, and you answer this: "nonsense."
              Reminds Carlson, who divided ten buns into "seven each, I have already taken mine."
              Russia lives on its own money, and the Baltics on alms. If subsidies suddenly stop, what will happen to the salaries there?
              1. -1
                25 July 2021 10: 02
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                If subsidies suddenly stop, what will happen to the salaries there?

                They will remain at the same level, otherwise they will work in other EU countries. I’m not saying that they don’t use subsidies, and I’m not saying that there is such a wonderful life there. I'm just saying that
                Quote: Finches
                And in the political circles of non-independent countries: Ukraine, Georgia, Poland, the Baltic states ... in general, some are oligophrenics

                such statements, to put it mildly, are far from reality. Tired of the local cheers-patriots. They leave the Baltics and Poland to work in the EU (England, Germany, etc.), also to me, a discovery. Give free rein to ours, and they will go the same, from Chuvashia not to Moscow to work as security guards, but in the EU - as janitors, for 1000 euros (for example), or am I wrong?
                1. +3
                  25 July 2021 10: 26
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Give free rein to ours, and they will go the same, from Chuvashia not to Moscow to work as security guards, but in the EU - as janitors, for 1000 euros (for example), or am I wrong?

                  Not quite. Some will go, some will not. If we talk solely in terms of the amount of material compensation, then we can go as far as drug addiction. Just now I watched a reportage on the pipe. Kladman can lift up to 30k per day.
                  However, I am sure that even if you find a bag full of money on the street, you will not take anything for yourself, but take it to the police. What will be done to them there is no longer your concern, since you have not violated your personal code of honor.
                2. -5
                  25 July 2021 10: 36
                  Give ours free rein, so they will go the same
                  I once asked a question here - if from Pskov or Vologda it will be possible to fly to Hamburg or Dublin, having a ticket for 1000re and a passport in your pocket, and stay there to live, then how many people will remain in Pskov / Vologda? I never got an answer sad
                  1. -6
                    25 July 2021 10: 55
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    I never received an answer

                    And you won't, because the answer will not be patriotic at all.)))))
                    1. -6
                      25 July 2021 10: 59
                      Moreover, local patriots, with open borders, will themselves sit on VOs from the IP of Hamburg or some other Stockholm. If the sand is already pouring, then the children will be sent to study there wassat ... There is one here - living in England with a Latvian passport (otherwise they would not be allowed) despises Latvia and England to the heap laughing
                  2. +4
                    25 July 2021 11: 19
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    I once asked a question here - if from Pskov or Vologda it will be possible to fly to Hamburg or Dublin, having a ticket for 1000re and a passport in your pocket, and stay there to live, then how many people will remain in Pskov / Vologda? I never got an answer

                    Would you personally leave? No wonder the saying exists: "It's good where we are not." It seems to some that it is bad exactly where they are. And in another place, therefore, it is smeared with honey. The only catch is that such dreamers feel bad wherever they are.
                    1. -2
                      25 July 2021 11: 22
                      Would you personally leave?
                      I did just that, by the way. Lived in England, Ireland. And now I liked it there. The main thing is not to be a dreamer, I have seen such people too, and it will be all the way through. And yes, I didn't feel bad in Latvia.
                      1. +6
                        25 July 2021 11: 42
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        I did just that, by the way. Lived in England, Ireland. And now I liked it there. The main thing is not to be a dreamer, I have seen such people too, and it will be all the way through. And yes, I didn't feel bad in Latvia.

                        So why do you think that the residents of Pskov or Vologda are asleep and see how to leave Russia? I personally, a Russian person, love my country as it is, and would never trade it for any England or Ireland.
                      2. -8
                        25 July 2021 11: 46
                        Pskov or Vologda sleep and see how to leave Russia?
                        You mean no one will go Yes neither for work, nor for permanent residence?
                        I will never trade it for any England or Ireland
                        Moreover, you will have to pay very robustly for the exchange laughing
                      3. +7
                        25 July 2021 11: 54
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        You want to say that no one will go either to work or for permanent residence?

                        I didn't say that. It was you, in your commentary, who pointed out that a lot of people would like to leave Russia.
                        Moreover, you will have to pay very robustly for the exchange

                        By the nature of my work, I can work from anywhere, even from the beach in Bali. But I don't like traveling, I don't like changing places. I adore my city, where my parents and my parents' parents lived, and my parents' parents' parents.
                  3. +4
                    25 July 2021 11: 21
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    if from Pskov or Vologda it will be possible to fly to Hamburg or Dublin, having in your pocket a ticket for 1000rr and a passport, and stay to live there, then

                    And what about us, as in the USSR, are not allowed abroad?
                    1. -5
                      25 July 2021 11: 26
                      are not allowed abroad?
                      The whole problem is that you are not particularly allowed abroad to visit you. It would be like the Balts, then everything would be different. If it weren't for the low-cost covid-carrier you would have taken you from Riga to Amsterdam or Gothenburg for 10-20 euros, no one checks your visa at passport control ... So how many people would have remained in Pskov or Vologda under such conditions of departure?
                      1. +3
                        25 July 2021 11: 29
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        The whole problem is that you are not particularly allowed abroad to visit you.

                        But what about the mantra of your colleagues that they say that at least half a million leaves every year?
                      2. -4
                        25 July 2021 11: 32
                        every year at least half a million leaves?
                        They somehow manage. They offered me 5-8 thousand for a fictitious marriage, and my wife, in general, 15 thousand. Again, they enter the institutes. Now imagine that there are no such barriers for Russians from the word at all ...
                      3. +3
                        25 July 2021 12: 40
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        They somehow manage.

                        And who, then, lives in Russia?
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        They offered me 5-8 thousand for a fictitious marriage, and my wife, in general, 15 thousand.

                        What is it like? Are you in a country where polygamy and polyandry are allowed?
                      4. -5
                        25 July 2021 12: 51
                        Are you in a country where polygamy and polyandry are allowed?
                        We were not "stamped" then. That is, a fictitious marriage would have gone off with a bang.
                        And who, then, lives in Russia?
                        Those who live in Latvia. It's just that it's hardly worth poking a finger at the Balts traveling over the hill (most often to save up for an apartment or to study for a while), when in Russia itself things have not taken an even more serious turn because of visa restrictions.
                      5. 0
                        25 July 2021 15: 07
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        when in Russia itself the case did not take an even more serious turn due to visa restrictions.

                        More serious turnover due to restrictions? Weird.
                  4. +2
                    25 July 2021 14: 07
                    I once asked a question here - if from Pskov or Vologda it will be possible to fly to Hamburg or Dublin, having a ticket for 1000re and a passport in your pocket, and stay there to live, then how many people will remain in Pskov / Vologda? I never got an answer

                    You, as always, do not see trees in the forest))))
                    Liberals in the 80s asked the same questions as you did))))
                    Well, the Iron Curtain collapsed in 1991, that all of Russia rushed to Europe? BUT ?
                    1. -2
                      25 July 2021 14: 12
                      the Iron Curtain collapsed in 1991, that all of Russia rushed to Europe? BUT ?
                      Certainly not lomanulas- visas and residence permits for citizens of the Russian Federation have been and remain. If they were canceled, as in the case of the Baltic states, the situation would be completely different.
                      1. +2
                        25 July 2021 14: 16
                        visas and residence permits for citizens of the Russian Federation have been and have remained.

                        As if a pitiful visa could stop someone who wants to)))
                      2. -3
                        25 July 2021 14: 18
                        a pitiful visa can stop anyone who wants to
                        Almost complete lawlessness and an immigration settler are inevitable in its absence - they can Yes
                      3. 0
                        25 July 2021 14: 21
                        Almost complete lawlessness and an immigration settler are inevitable in its absence - they can

                        What is the problem with getting a visa? )))
                      4. -4
                        25 July 2021 14: 29
                        And this already depends on the visa. But judging by the fact that Ukrainian did not become the second state state neither in England nor in Holland, this is not so simple. And why bogus marriages, if it's a trifle pair?
                3. +4
                  25 July 2021 11: 00
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Give ours free rein, so they will go the same

                  And what, we do not let someone over the hill?
                  1. -4
                    25 July 2021 11: 06
                    У them they are not particularly allowed to visit because of the Russian hillock. And from the Baltic States, even a visa is not needed.
              2. +3
                25 July 2021 10: 12
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Russia lives on its own money, and the Baltics on alms. If subsidies suddenly stop, what will happen to the salaries there?

                Here I would like to add an essential point. The Baltic countries, Eastern Europe, all sorts of UAE, CA, Qatar, etc. are not subjects. At any moment, at the request of the owner, anything will be with them, if they want to show subjectivity (like Iraq, Libya, Syria ...). To be a subject, you need to have a lot of everything that costs a lot of money. Russia has it all, to which the collective West is spending trillions of dollars. This is the army and the navy, and scientific schools with the highest potential, and a production base for carrying out hundreds of R&D and creating a wide range of products, and a research base for fundamental science, and much more. At the same time, Russia has to do alone what the West creates only in the broadest cooperation of many countries, and it is coping with this quite well so far.
                1. +3
                  25 July 2021 10: 30
                  That is exactly what I had in mind.
              3. +2
                25 July 2021 11: 10
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                They are trying to talk to you about EU subsidies,

                See how good life is in western Europe? And they themselves live, and the Balts are fed.
                Russia is also a rich country. Soon it will provide pensions to Tajiks with Uzbeks. Their Russians have all the rules with pensions.
              4. -3
                25 July 2021 13: 56
                They are trying to talk to you about EU subsidies, and you answer this: "nonsense."
                Reminds Carlson, who divided ten buns into "seven each, I have already taken mine."

                Working out the salary)))
                These "Soros" and "Hodor" are like mud here)))
            2. +3
              25 July 2021 10: 12
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              We are talking about their standard of living and average salaries:

              So where will the average salary come from if they practically do not produce or sell anything?
              I have already heard for 20 years about the last hedgehog eaten in the Baltic States,

              Listen to the wrong gossip
            3. +3
              25 July 2021 10: 27
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              I have already heard for 20 years about the last hedgehog eaten in the Baltic States, aren't you tired?

              And, to us, what are the claims, if they are slow in their national mentality and in food request
            4. +1
              25 July 2021 13: 52
              We are talking about their standard of living and average salaries:
              https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/srednya-zarplata-v-mire.html

              Everyone who goes to work in the Tribaltica does not confirm this))))
              1. -3
                25 July 2021 14: 41
                who goes to work in the Tribaltica do not confirm this
                But they stubbornly go there to work laughing
                1. +1
                  25 July 2021 14: 46
                  But they stubbornly go there to work

                  Did you fulfill the norm of posts for today? Has the curator already been sent? )))
                  And so in the Baltic states of Belarusians on earnings are the least)))) The salary is the same as in Minsk, and the cost of housing and utilities, in comparison with Belarus, is simply an abyss)))
                  1. -2
                    25 July 2021 14: 50
                    Salary like in Minsk
                    How can it be "like in Minsk" if the real per capita GDP in Belarus is 4 (almost) times less than in Lithuania?
                    1. 0
                      25 July 2021 14: 55
                      How can it be "like in Minsk" if the real per capita GDP in Belarus is 4 (almost) times less than in Lithuania?

                      Don't tell me, 1000 $ in Minsk at a construction site, it's not a problem to make money.
                      And a communal apartment ... last month I got 63 rubles, which at the rate of about $ 25, this is taking into account water, elevators, garbage and other expenses, plus 33 rubles of electricity is roughly $ 15. Total $ 40 ALL utilities per month, with free medicine and education.
                      1. -2
                        25 July 2021 14: 59
                        1000 $ in Minsk at a construction site, it's not a problem to earn
                        Therefore, Belarusians prefer to go to work in Poland and Lithuania.
                      2. -1
                        25 July 2021 15: 01
                        Therefore, Belarusians prefer to go to work in Poland and Lithuania.

                        60% of all Belarusians working abroad work in Russia, and only 40% in the entire west))))
                        By the way, have your children already received higher education abroad? ))
                      3. -2
                        25 July 2021 15: 03
                        We have no children, but what do you want to say for the local overseas education? smile ?
                      4. -2
                        25 July 2021 15: 06
                        We have no children

                        Neighbor's wife can't call?
                        In fact, there are no children - a person will never grow up.
                      5. -2
                        25 July 2021 15: 15
                        Neighbor's wife can't call?
                        She is not Belarusian.
                        In fact, no children are human
                        In fact, availability neighboring children are clearly your only achievement.
                      6. -2
                        25 July 2021 15: 32
                        In fact, having children in your neighborhood is clearly your only achievement.

                        Blah blah blah
                        I didn’t expect anything else from Izzy)))))
        4. +3
          25 July 2021 10: 42
          Is this why the "Tribaltic" countries are also called "extinctions"?
    2. +11
      25 July 2021 07: 33
      Quote: Xlor
      Is this the one who is being demanded to be extradited to Georgia?

      This is the one who should be tried by an international court for war crimes in Ossetia.
    3. +4
      25 July 2021 09: 00
      It is not clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements. What's this? - an attempt to intimidate Ukraine with the name of Stalin? If so, then it looks frankly ridiculous.

      It's simple. These characters grunt strictly within the framework of the Western project "Ukraine - anti Russia". And that's all.
  2. +4
    25 July 2021 07: 25
    Is this the one who is called to Georgia to finish his red tie?
    1. +4
      25 July 2021 07: 35
      Quote: tralflot1832
      , finish your red tie?

      According to unverified gossip, he switched to socks lol
  3. +2
    25 July 2021 07: 33
    ***
    Next time Saakashvili will tell how he met with Stalin ...
    ***
    1. +2
      25 July 2021 09: 07
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      Next time Saakashvili will tell how he met with Stalin ..

      Churchill and Roosevelt. Incognita
  4. +3
    25 July 2021 07: 44
    It is not entirely clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements for Ukrainian TV viewers.

    It is not entirely clear for what purpose VO prints such news. You never know what a petty Ukrainian official says.
    1. +3
      25 July 2021 07: 46
      What a Ukrainian he is - Mishiko is a man of the world! laughing
      1. +4
        25 July 2021 09: 08
        Quote: Finches
        Mishiko is a man of peace!

        A giant of thought! Father of Georgian democracy!
    2. +3
      25 July 2021 08: 24
      Quote: professor
      You never know what a petty Ukrainian official says.

      Not so shallow if you take into account its ability to outrage the surrounding media space by manipulating and heating up the situation. Yes
    3. -4
      25 July 2021 08: 48
      Quote: professor
      It is not entirely clear for what purpose VO prints such news.

      In order to raise loyal mood among the masses.
      1. -6
        25 July 2021 09: 05
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: professor
        It is not entirely clear for what purpose VO prints such news.

        In order to raise loyal mood among the masses.

        Well, how ... his authority among the people has completely dropped ... you need to cling to Stalin ... at least somehow to save the situation, if real deeds do not work ..
        1. +3
          25 July 2021 09: 09
          Are you posing as the entire Russian people again? This, my friend, is megalomania! laughing
          1. -7
            25 July 2021 09: 13
            Quote: Finches
            Are you posing as the entire Russian people again? This, my friend, is megalomania! laughing

            No, this is reality .. I work in a taxi .. and through one I hear how the people "thank" the "comrade" of this .. who for 20 years in power has ensured that the population of the country, which he is going to lead to the grave, is dying out rapidly, and friends and friends of friends are getting rich at an unprecedented rate ..
            1. -1
              25 July 2021 09: 16
              And I live in a cellar and watch only Kremlin TV ... And our people "don't take a taxi to the bakery"! In the metro, no one is outraged ... I have a brother, a mansion in Sochi, five cars ... he also thinks that Putin is to blame! laughing
              1. -6
                25 July 2021 09: 18
                Quote: Finches
                And I live in a cellar and watch only the Kremlin TV ...

                This is exactly the feeling you get when reading your comments ..
                1. +3
                  25 July 2021 09: 27
                  So you are the same, to be honest, only with a different sign ... Behind me is a personal life experience, "I went through a glorious military path from a sperm (conscript) to a colonel (retired already)", and what is behind you, just fashionable on the Internet to oppose the government is cool! Why don't you go out on the square, don't you arrange the Maidan against the "bloody" tyrant? USA pays well for it! BUT?
                  1. -4
                    25 July 2021 09: 32
                    Quote: Finches
                    and what is behind you, it's just fashionable on the Internet to oppose the government, it's cool!

                    The truth is behind me. And your lie .. that's enough .. but if not, then challenge ..
                    who for 20 years in power has achieved that the population of the country, which he was going to lead to the grave, is dying out rapidly, and friends and friends of friends are getting richer at an unprecedented rate ..
                    1. +4
                      25 July 2021 09: 37
                      What is the truth? Do you remember the army at the beginning of the 90s and after the 2000s? We lived in the garrisons when they had to drown with potbelly stoves, there was forage for food, and then ... What did you see, what is the truth? This is a meaningless dialogue. But, you know, if people like you start to bust, in my face there will be an enemy for you, a military professional, not a special forces officer, of course, a signalman, but he knows how to do a lot in military affairs better than you. hi
                      1. -6
                        25 July 2021 09: 56
                        Quote: Finches
                        What is the truth?

                        You answer a question with a question .. challenge this fact:
                        who for 20 years in power has ensured that the population of the country, which he was going to lead to the grave, is dying out rapidly, and friends and friends of friends are getting richer at an unprecedented rate.

                        Do you remember the army in the early 90s and after the 2000s? We lived in the garrisons when you had to drown with stoves and then

                        The size of the Russian army is only 0,5% of the total number of citizens .. and the fact that the oligarchy made acceptable conditions for them does not at all mean success in leading the country. This is a compulsory measure to defend the interests of the ruling class in the international arena .. And if today about 700-800 tons of people serve in the RF Armed Forces, then in the Rosgvardia 400 tons .. But the Rosgvardia defends the interests of the oligarchs inside the country .. and of course, these departments need to be fed .. I'm not talking about law enforcement agencies, but about civilians, at the expense of which the security forces live.
                        This is a meaningless dialogue.

                        I agree.
                        But, know, if people like you start to rage hi

                        Unfortunately, the people prefer to die out quietly .. so people like you will destroy Russia very soon ..
                        I wonder what it's like to be an officer and bow to the oligarchs ... when those whom you are called to protect die out .. and in their place come the Chinese, Tajiks, Turks ..
                      2. +1
                        25 July 2021 09: 58
                        What are you talking about or history does not teach you anything — critics, like you, have ruined the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, and now you want to bury Russia ... What kind of pathological disease is it to destroy everything?
                      3. -4
                        25 July 2021 10: 06
                        Quote: Finches
                        What are you talking about or history does not teach you anything - critics, like you, ruined the Russian Empire

                        And rightly so ..
                        ruined the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union,

                        But the USSR was ditched by traitors, whose follower is now running the country.
                        and now you want to bury Russia.

                        I don’t want .. Russia for me is, first of all, people .. and now we are getting smaller every year .. and at this rate in 50 years, very little will remain .. the state will shrink to the scale of the Central Federal District .. And you advocate this .. exactly this government has created such conditions, it is because of these conditions that people do not want to breed poverty, and pensioners often die before reaching retirement ... well ... let it be on your officer's conscience ..
                        What a pathological disease to destroy everything?

                        The fact is that destruction and decomposition has been going on since the 90s ... and I would just like the destruction to stop.
                      4. +3
                        25 July 2021 10: 10
                        Excuse me, I see something else and not through the TV, but through my own life! hi
                      5. -6
                        25 July 2021 10: 20
                        Quote: Finches
                        Excuse me, I see something else and not through the TV, but through my own life!

                        So get out of "your little world" look wider .. and simply, without emotion, analyze the situation .. After all, everything is in full view .. hi
                        As a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, joining the Armed Forces, I take the Oath and solemnly swear: to be an honest, brave, disciplined, vigilant warrior, to strictly keep military and state secrets, to unquestioningly comply with all military charters and orders of commanders and commanders
                        I swear to conscientiously study military affairs, to take full care of military and national property, and to the last breath to be devoted to your People, their Soviet Motherland and the Soviet Government.
                        I am always ready, on the orders of the Soviet Government, to defend my Homeland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, as a warrior of the Armed Forces, I swear to defend it courageously, skillfully, with dignity and honor, not sparing my blood and life itself to achieve a complete victory over enemies .
                        If I break my solemn oath, then let the severe punishment of Soviet law befall me, universal hatred and contempt of the Soviet people.
                      6. +1
                        25 July 2021 10: 31
                        All I wanted to say, I said: Russia, as the legal successor of the USSR, is my Motherland, and I will not allow it to be destroyed - this is the essence of the Oath I gave!
                      7. -4
                        25 July 2021 10: 32
                        Quote: Finches
                        All I wanted to say, I said: Russia, as the legal successor of the USSR, is my Motherland, and I will not allow it to be destroyed - this is the essence of the Oath I gave!

                        I have allocated words for you .. you have sworn allegiance to the people .. and not to the oligarchs. And they are destroying the Motherland, not the people.
                      8. 0
                        25 July 2021 10: 43
                        This is capitalism and there are rich people under it ... You propose the Socialist Revolution, I am not against it, but who will support it, there is no strength and support among the people, and for the sake of utopia to destroy Russia to please the United States, I see no point!
                      9. -4
                        25 July 2021 10: 53
                        Quote: Finches
                        This is capitalism and there are rich people under it.

                        This is wild capitalism .. when 1% of the rich own 90% of all the resources of the country .. and when 80 million citizens are beggars ..
                        You offer a Socialist Revolution, I am not against it, but who will support it, there is no strength and support among the people

                        I propose to simply speak truthfully on the topic of power and not push these crooks.
                        and for the sake of utopia to destroy Russia for the sake of the United States, I see no reason!

                        Just for the sake of utopia, the USSR was destroyed .. and if it had not been destroyed and a person like Stalin had come, then there would have already been socialism all over the world .. well, at least we would have changed places with China .. more precisely, China is the same and would remain an underdeveloped country .. but now we are.
                      10. -4
                        25 July 2021 14: 36
                        You propose a Socialist Revolution, I am not against it, but who will support it, there is no strength and support among the people, and for the sake of utopia to destroy Russia for the sake of the United States, I see no reason!

                        Fuck the troll.
                        Have you noticed? There is not a single congratulation of a Russophobe on a professional holiday under any article dedicated to this holiday. There is not a single Russophobe, neither Svarog, nor other Russophobes. But they are teeming with topics where you can throw mud at power.
                      11. -2
                        25 July 2021 14: 33
                        I have allocated words for you .. you have sworn allegiance to the people ..

                        He swore allegiance to the Russian people, and you to the invented Soviet.
                      12. +1
                        25 July 2021 21: 54
                        Quote: lucul
                        He swore allegiance to the Russian people, and you to the invented Soviet.

                        Vlasov spoke about the same about his oath. The apple does not fall far from the apple tree, does it?
                      13. -4
                        25 July 2021 14: 31
                        universal hatred and contempt of the Soviet people

                        Could you tell me where is that artificial "Soviet" people now, where is their "Soviet" language, Soviet customs, Soviet customs, Soviet culture? BUT ?
                        Where ? Didn't pass the test of time?
                        And the Russian people, language, culture, manners, customs, as it was, and remained.
                        Maybe it's time to stop believing in fairy tales?
                      14. +4
                        25 July 2021 10: 59
                        And I also remember the events on Russky Island in 91-92. In one or more tutorials. You may remember that the country was thundering and the TV set was shown how the youngsters were malnourished. And some even in a "wooden jacket" left home ahead of schedule. And this is in peacetime! At that time I was also in the school next door. But on the mainland)) military unit 40710 SHMASS that at the station. Oceanic.
                        So the darkness thought with us. They also did not indulge in pickles, because of the ration of bread, platoon to platoon fought with citizens from Asia. (they loved to squeeze out a herd of one).
                        In combat it was already easier. military unit 39167 (separate communications company) of the Kamenny Ruchey airfield. In 92 until about May 93, they fed more or less. But there was a period of dogs stupidly ate. On one potato and the notorious macaroshkas, it was somehow not very served. Officers so generally some more fishing and hunting hunted. Who had the opportunity. And under demobilization (October 93rd) it is generally impossible to understand how to feed steel. What was brought to the company from the dining room more resembled the same potash, when they sweep away everything that was lying under the shelves - millet, rice, buckwheat, you still do not understand what was there. But it was impossible to eat. The dogs in the car park were poured out and they smelled, looked at us as if to say - "Guys! What are you doing?" And they just didn’t twist a finger at his temple. Then, I heard it got worse. What now represents that my division was in the past, that training - you can't look without tears.
                    2. +1
                      25 July 2021 10: 56
                      Quote: Svarog
                      who for 20 years in power has ensured that the population of the country, which he was going to lead to the grave, is dying out rapidly

                      And where is the rapid extinction here:

                      https://численность-населения.рф/
                      You can take any source.
                      For comparison, among neighbors, yes, a really rapid extinction, and no hope for a change in trend:

                      In Russia since 1991 - minus 1,4%, in Ukraine - minus 20%, Estonia - ≈ minus 15%, Lithuania - minus 30%, Latvia - minus 27%.
                      We broke the trend in 2008, they didn't.
                      And this is despite all the peace and sanctions against us.
                      1. -4
                        25 July 2021 11: 09
                        Quote: Vasia

                        And where is the rapid extinction here:

                        Dear .. you read at least the official position of Rosstat on this issue .. Rosstat is even in sadness, and you have an optimism ..
                        The UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs has presented a forecast according to which the population of Russia will decrease to 111,8-132,7 million people by 2050, that is, by 12-30 million (EXCLUDING migration). By the middle of the century, the number of inhabitants in rural areas of Russia will decrease by one and a half times. It is curious that this figure is even higher than the pessimistic forecast of Rosstat - a decrease in the number to 107-115 million people.
                        Source: https://hultafors-russia.ru/demograficheskiy-prognoz-rosstata-do-2050-goda

                        According to the forecast of Rosstat, in 30 years the population of the Russian Federation will decrease to 107 million people .. But we know that the official figures are always underestimated and there is every reason to believe that the situation will develop in a more sad way, especially given the country's economy, where there is not even a hint of progress..
                        So, in 50 years, we may already be 80-90 mln people in total .. and this is about the same as the Central Federal District and the Volga Federal District .. combined
                      2. 0
                        25 July 2021 11: 15
                        Quote: Svarog
                        According to the forecast of Rosstat, in 30 years the population of the Russian Federation will decrease to 107 million people .. But we know that the official figures are always underestimated and there is every reason to believe that the situation will develop in a more sad way, especially given the country's economy, where there is not even a hint of progress..

                        In 30 years, anything can happen - serious geopolitical changes are coming. I showed you that there is already a current dynamic, and it does not coincide with what you are saying.
                      3. -3
                        25 July 2021 11: 19
                        Quote: Vasia
                        In 30 years, anything can happen - serious geopolitical changes are coming.

                        Do you mean the Chinese will populate the Far East and Siberia? Yes, it is quite likely that the process is already underway .. In Tatarstan, there are a lot of Chinese, Turks and Tajiks .. they live separately, they move in small groups .. they practically do not speak Russian .. already somewhere 10% of all orders in a taxi fall on these comrades.
                        then there is already a current dynamic, and it does not coincide with what you are saying.

                        Rosstat says .. and I supplement.
                      4. 0
                        25 July 2021 11: 25
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Rosstat says .. and I supplement.

                        Complementing, to put it mildly, disingenuous.
                        There is no "rapid extinction" now, from 1995 to 2008 it was, now it is not yet.
                      5. +1
                        25 July 2021 21: 25
                        Quote: Svarog
                        But we know that the official figures are always underestimated and there is every reason to believe that the situation will develop in a more sad way, especially given the country's economy, where there is not even a hint of progress.

                        Oh my God, winked well, pure Teresa May, and then Boris Johnson with his reinforced concrete: "We have no proof, but more likely ... Russia is to blame ... Putin gave the order to poison ..." am
                        So Hitler, it turns out, had enough to say in the Reichstag on September 1, 1939 "with a high degree of probability Poland is behind the attack on the radio station in Gleiwitz." And that's all - you can declare war, everything is proven.

                        Bored girls winked
                      6. -2
                        25 July 2021 11: 17
                        Broke. Aha! When Crimea returned, and with it the population. And migrants are delivered in wagons. And how long will this "break" be enough?
                      7. +1
                        25 July 2021 11: 20
                        Quote: Region-25.rus
                        Broke. Crimea is back and migrants are brought in by wagons

                        You are not reading carefully. In 2008, it was broken, as can be seen in the diagram. Crimea is back - this is a jump on the charts in 2014, it is clearly visible.
                      8. -3
                        25 July 2021 11: 32
                        You read inattentively
                        I look very CAREFULLY at the state of things and not at the graphs. Approximately so from the 92nd year began to look. When I turned 19. And I will draw any schedule for you) At least three-dimensional.
                      9. -3
                        25 July 2021 12: 12
                        Broke. Aha!

                        also called "extinctions"?
                        This is how the population is declining in almost all countries.
                      10. 0
                        25 July 2021 12: 13
                        This is how the population is declining in almost all countries.
                        I do not argue. But I'm more worried about MY country hi
                      11. -1
                        25 July 2021 12: 20
                        So it turns out that not only Baltic, but also West German, and Scandinavian, and Pyrenean "extinctions" wassat
                      12. -2
                        25 July 2021 12: 22
                        if the answer to me is "extinct" called tribals. Usually in response to speeches "prosperity and prosperity under the wing of the EU" It's clear about us. Let the rest be called as it is convenient for them. hi
                      13. -4
                        25 July 2021 12: 28
                        And why do you ignore the Scandinavian extinction, Not fair. Again, it is worth noting that depopulation is not connected with the poverty of the population - in Burundi, Haiti and Bangladesh they do not hesitate to breed. In your opinion, it turns out that life there is better than any Latvia, and even more so Denmark and Holland? wassat
                      14. -2
                        25 July 2021 12: 32
                        Read my post above carefully? Especially in specially bold type?
                      15. -3
                        25 July 2021 14: 56
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And why do you ignore the Scandinavian extinction, Not fair. Again, it is worth noting that depopulation is not connected with the poverty of the population - in Burundi, Haiti and Bangladesh they do not hesitate to breed. In your opinion, it turns out that life there is better than any Latvia, and even more so Denmark and Holland?

                        Here we hit the top ten, well done.
                        And then many fighters against the regime say that we have extinction due to the fact that Putin has brought the people, there is nothing to eat. And after all, they also give maternity capital almost $ 7000 (where else can you see this in Europe), you need to abolish the fuck, and you see, people will start to multiply.
                      16. -3
                        25 July 2021 15: 01
                        maternity capital is given almost 7000 dollars
                        This is about a one-year UK child benefit. (The exact size here depends on the circumstances.)
                      17. -1
                        25 July 2021 15: 17
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        This is about a one-year UK child benefit. (The exact size here depends on the circumstances.)

                        Most sources talk about £ 20 per week (£ 1000 per year). Considering the cost of a kindergarten in the region of £ 1000 a month, then of course this is negligible for Britain.
                      18. -2
                        25 July 2021 15: 19
                        about 20 pounds per week (1000 pounds per year)
                        The same daycare is partially paid and the benefits depend on your income. Taken all together, it turns out well. Black women with three children of breadwinners laughing driving without working (gasoline 1.3 pounds per liter, by the way).
                      19. 0
                        25 July 2021 15: 25
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Black women with three children do not drive cars (petrol 1.3 pounds per liter, by the way).

                        Yes, the campaign, the entire core of capitalism (the golden billion) will soon turn black, black women and Arabs only give birth, do not assimilate and establish their own order. How long will the resources last with such a policy)

                        And it is there now all the time.
                      20. -1
                        25 July 2021 15: 26
                        And it is there now all the time.
                        Where do you live? And how long?
                      21. +1
                        25 July 2021 15: 34
                        This is not important and has nothing to do with the topic. Or you doubt the given example, so say that it is a fake, justify. And there are many such videos, which would have been difficult to do 20 years ago.
                    3. 0
                      25 July 2021 14: 27
                      The truth is behind me. And your lie .. that's enough .. but if not, then challenge ..

                      What is the truth? Where is the truth in your words?
                      The provision of housing for citizens in Russia is now exactly 2 times higher than even under the USSR.
            2. +1
              25 July 2021 19: 12
              Quote: Svarog
              I work in a taxi ..

              Have you changed your job for a long time?
          2. -6
            25 July 2021 09: 29
            Quote: Finches
            Are you posing as the entire Russian people again? This, my friend, is megalomania!

            Do you want to pass yourself off as all the people? And the fact that his and his “edra's” rating is falling is also recognized by the official media. Didn't you know?
            1. +3
              25 July 2021 09: 31
              And edro has nothing to do with it, I do not like edro, there are only stockings, only the Supreme, then where? Well, he uses this useless substance to his advantage, it's just politics!
    4. +2
      25 July 2021 10: 29
      Quote: professor
      It is not entirely clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements for Ukrainian TV viewers.

      It is not entirely clear for what purpose VO prints such news. You never know what a petty Ukrainian official says.

      Why else, from the Kremlin website, a photo of Putin in his office request
  5. +5
    25 July 2021 07: 49
    There will be one more meeting ...
    What, genatsvale ... do you remember Tskhinvali ???
    1. -7
      25 July 2021 09: 06
      Quote: Sonmaster
      What, genatsvale ... do you remember Tskhinvali ???

      Yes, he remembers, as well as the fact that someone wanted to hang him by the genitals .. but to this day he has not hung him ..
      1. 0
        26 July 2021 17: 08
        Not all is lost yet.
    2. +2
      25 July 2021 09: 08
      Quote: Sonmaster
      There will be one more meeting ...

      Hurry ...
  6. +8
    25 July 2021 07: 54
    Did Putin admire Stalin? He simply respects, and admiration is the lot of those who are nothing of themselves and are not capable of anything.
    He judges from his place, from under the bunk, however, he can still admire someone.
    1. +4
      25 July 2021 09: 12
      Quote: Andrea
      Judges from his place, from under the bunk,

      Already driven under the bunk? belay
      But it seems to have risen ... lol
      1. 0
        25 July 2021 09: 23
        Has risen. Before Parasha.)
        1. 0
          25 July 2021 10: 09
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          Has risen. Before Parasha.)

          And the parasha below is opposite laughing
  7. bar
    +5
    25 July 2021 08: 07
    It is not entirely clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements for Ukrainian TV viewers.

    The usual chatter in order to warm up and raise your importance. Why, I even talked to him myself !!!
  8. +4
    25 July 2021 08: 18
    He remembers the best moments of his life, because there is nothing more to remember, but here he talked to Putin himself. And he hooked Stalin, because he is a strong personality and, moreover, a Georgian by nationality. bully
    1. 0
      25 July 2021 09: 22
      I would rather tell how the chubby Georgians were supplied with weapons, how they shot at our soldiers, how they ate a tie ..
      1. +1
        25 July 2021 09: 45
        So one can suffer for this (he has it ahead), but here he talked with the guru, with the VVP itself. This is not for you to gallop over Khokhlyatsky roofs like goats over the mountains.
  9. +5
    25 July 2021 08: 57
    It is not entirely clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements for Ukrainian TV viewers. What's this? - an attempt to intimidate Ukraine with the name of Stalin? If so, then it looks frankly ridiculous.


    PR and no more ...
    1. +5
      25 July 2021 21: 30
      Quote: cniza
      It is not entirely clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements for Ukrainian TV viewers. What's this? - an attempt to intimidate Ukraine with the name of Stalin? If so, then it looks frankly ridiculous.


      PR and no more ...

      At the end of any PR are ... denyushki.

      hi
      1. +3
        26 July 2021 08: 30
        So this is not specified, this is first of all ...
  10. +7
    25 July 2021 09: 04
    It is not entirely clear for what purpose Saakashvili makes such statements for Ukrainian TV viewers.


    A statement made by any well-known political figure is a signal that can be interpreted in any way. Saakashvili's statement, published on the VO website, is a signal to all Stalinists, which means to me, they say, yours took it. Yes, while it is politically inconvenient to leave the Mausoleum on May 9 open - the capitalists will be offended, but the fact that the people are offended, well, it will go away! Yes, and Stalin is not in the Mausoleum. But Andrei Removich Belousov, a statesman, has been introduced to the Russian government! Introduced, and even as a Deputy Prime Minister, settled down there and if he did not completely defeat the financiers, he pressed them and now, without loud words, quietly takes his measures to introduce the so-called balanced method of management into the economy. What was introduced under Stalin and gave an amazing effect in 15 - 16% of economic growth per year. Even during the Great Patriotic War, there was a 10% increase. And many capitalist countries quietly borrowed this technique.
    But how to implement this method in the absence of a command type of control? And the government's financial bloc has already responded to Belousov's blow with its own blow - by raising the key rate to 6,5%, which means that small and medium-sized businesses - the one that is still fluttering, can finally bend. This is despite the fact that Joseph Vissarionovich attached great importance to small and medium-sized enterprises, as well as farmers (in the sound of the 30s - industrial cooperation and individual farmers).
    1. +4
      25 July 2021 10: 34
      Quote: depressant
      But Andrei Removich Belousov, a statesman, has been introduced to the Russian government! Introduced, and even as a Deputy Prime Minister, settled down there and if he did not completely defeat the financiers, he pressed them and now, without loud words, quietly takes his measures to introduce the so-called balanced method of management into the economy. What was introduced under Stalin

      I noticed that he is always in the shade. Is it correct that he does not voice his policy publicly?
      1. 0
        26 July 2021 05: 25
        A good statesman (like the same Mishustin) who raises taxes, and fuel prices, and also allowed the oligarchs to leave money from the sale of "national property" over the hill! Vlasov they have an idol, not I. V. Stalin!
  11. +2
    25 July 2021 09: 20
    Looks like Mishiko fell off the roof well, in the capital of Chubatiya ...) Gossip, balabol and cheap stuff.
  12. +2
    25 July 2021 09: 23
    Something Sakashvili began to chat a lot lately ..
    And if Putin respects Stalin, then my respect to him
    No matter how much the cosmopolitans throw mud at him, but the people remember him and know what a great country he created the USSR .. This is not your tongue wagging, and titanic work was There is such a concept "Stalin's generation".
  13. +1
    25 July 2021 09: 52
    It was necessary to show Mikho and the courtyard on the Lubyanka where Vlasov and his sidekicks of the Nazi accomplices were hanged.
  14. 0
    25 July 2021 10: 15
    The bug tells how the dwarf took him to the giant's dwelling. Breshet probably.
  15. +2
    25 July 2021 12: 06
    Stalin's son died at the front. One cannot expect the same from the modern Russian elite.
  16. +1
    25 July 2021 12: 09
    I look at all our bourgeoisie and their chief bourgeoisie, but in my opinion they have an ideal of General Vlasov.
  17. +3
    25 July 2021 12: 47
    The fact that he admires Stalin is correct and natural. The first sign of a lice egg is fear and hatred of Stalin. Even now, at the mere mention of him, they lose the slightest signs of adequacy and begin to squeal and gush with waste products, like small street dogs, whose tapping they finally paid attention to and kicked their breath with a boot. And in a sense, I even understand Putin in his unwillingness to demonstrate admiration for our greatest ruler without doubt - the intelligentsia, the opposition, and potential partners, especially the Eastern European colonies, in general, will lose the link with reality from hysteria, and will become completely inadequate.
  18. 0
    25 July 2021 15: 15
    To all commentators - well, are you happy with Putin? Or do you want Stalin? In general, I consider Sukashvili's revelations a compliment.
    1. +4
      25 July 2021 21: 42
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Well, are you glad to Putin? Or do you want Stalin?

      It is paradoxical, but the fact is, how many do not spit on Stalin, but the people respect him.
      I recall the words of Charles de Gaulle "Stalin did not become a thing of the past - he disappeared into the future!"
      1. -1
        26 July 2021 00: 32
        Who is this people? Me, you, Makarevich?
        1. +3
          26 July 2021 23: 01
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Me, you, Makarevich?

          Just not next to this ... negative
  19. 0
    26 July 2021 02: 54
    Many admire Stalin. There were no more successful managers on the territory of Mother Russia.
  20. -1
    26 July 2021 05: 17
    And that Sahak already has GDP on allowance?
  21. +1
    26 July 2021 09: 20
    In the next interview, Ssakashvili will talk about how he gave advice on the landing in Normandy to Roosevelt and Churchill.
  22. 0
    26 July 2021 21: 14
    Captain Obvious ... A recent poll on one website showed that 80 percent of Russians admire Stalin.

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