American Edition: Hypersonic Weapons Leads Russia to Leader in New Arms Race

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Russia leads the development of hypersonic weapons... As the American edition of The Defense Post writes, thanks to these developments, Russia is becoming the leader of a new arms race.

To date, the Russian army is already armed with hypersonic missiles "Dagger" and hypersonic gliding block "Avangard", the newspaper writes. Zircon will soon join them, and its tests are coming to an end.



The author of the article draws attention to the past tests, during which the frigate of the Northern fleet Admiral Gorshkov successfully launched the hypersonic Zircon. The launched rocket covered 350 km at a speed seven times the speed of sound and hit the target.

According to military experts, Russia is currently ahead of all countries in the development of hypersonic weapons. They are trying to catch up with Russian developers in China, the United States and France, which have announced plans to develop their own hypersonic weapons, as well as in a number of other countries. It is possible that soon the gap will become smaller and smaller, and as a result they will finally make up for lost time.

Most of all, the Americans are trying, who intend to neutralize Russia's advantage within a few months, perhaps a year and a half, the author writes.

Thus, the world again plunges into an arms race, trying to create hypersonic weapons. Nobody knows what it will turn into. However, at the moment Russia is the leader of this race.
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    1. +16
      24 July 2021 13: 36
      So cartoons have become a reality.
      1. +12
        24 July 2021 13: 38
        Some cartoons did not end there. And they are unlikely to end. Since the level of awareness of reality so far only perceives cartoons and that everyone owes them.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. +4
        24 July 2021 13: 39
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        So cartoons became reality

        And in pain ... headache. Not ours! wassat
        1. +5
          24 July 2021 14: 32
          The Americans woke up. And they were surprised! laughing
          1. +1
            24 July 2021 21: 02
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            The Americans woke up. And they were surprised! laughing

            Still would. From the category of leading mattresses have rolled back into the category of catch-up! Even if they catch up, their "hyper-profit" will cost several times more than the Russian one, and the absence of a system capable of intercepting hypersound, similar to the S-500, increases the costs of the arms race many times over, or even reduces their attempts to naught.
      4. +6
        24 July 2021 15: 26
        Russia also creates complexes for the destruction of promising hypersonic missiles of the enemy, which is no less difficult.
        1. -2
          24 July 2021 20: 37
          Quote: knn54
          Russia also creates complexes for the destruction of promising hypersonic missiles of the enemy, which is no less difficult.

          ========
          That's right! In the arms race, the winner is not the one who has the most money ... but the one who better and faster will be able to predict possible counter-actions of a potential adversary!
      5. +1
        24 July 2021 16: 13
        Quote: smith 55
        So cartoons have become a reality.

        So if you do them with a soul! As an animator, I'm telling you - it's true! Just remember Winnie the Pooh and Piglet - why not the situation of the Russian Federation and Ukraine ?! About the European "vzhzhzh", which is not easy! About the German Owl, about the Asian Eeyore. And the cunning and greedy Rabbit, well, is directly copied from the politician from Nezalezhnaya, who has gone into the shadows, and the knocked-down ball? ... I just keep quiet about "The Adventures of Kesha the Parrot" !!! He wanted to go to Europe, Celentano allegedly comes, he drinks "juus" there .., but in fact he washes the toilet and brings slippers! And how tired he is to the new owner - to those skies in the box. Ultimately where ??? To Vovochka! laughing
    2. +3
      24 July 2021 13: 37
      However, at the moment Russia is the leader of this race.

      And this is perceived with approval by the entire Soviet people, as they would say in the days of Brezhnev. The Russian people are also happy about this - for at least ten years we have been guaranteed peace.
      1. 0
        24 July 2021 13: 41
        This is when missiles such as Gremlin and Ostrota are put into service in the proper quantity. It's too early to rejoice.
        1. +1
          24 July 2021 13: 45
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          This is when such missiles are put into service in the proper quantity.
          The Americans will accept us even later, but for now we are sleeping peacefully, tk. our nuclear potential is sufficient for today.
      2. +6
        24 July 2021 14: 03
        for ten years we are guaranteed peace
        We are "peacefully" destroyed every day inside ...
        1. +1
          24 July 2021 16: 57
          Who is destroying us?
          1. -2
            24 July 2021 17: 14
            Not "who" but "what": state capitalism.
            1. +1
              24 July 2021 17: 26
              In what way does it humiliate? You should live in North Korea for a week, away from capitalism
      3. -12
        24 July 2021 14: 25
        Quote: ccsr
        The Russian people are also happy about it

        Why?
        The fact that the arms race does not allow our people to get out of poverty?
        In a few months, the United States will catch up and overtake us in hypersonic missiles, their achievements are simply amazing, so what? Tighten your belts again? And so it's scary to look at prices ...
        1. +3
          24 July 2021 14: 45
          They will catch up, of course they will catch up, but there is no need to panic. It would be worse if we had to catch up. Otherwise, we will simply be ready for a new round of confrontation.
          1. -4
            24 July 2021 16: 41
            Quote: URAL72
            Otherwise, we'll just be ready for a new round of confrontation.

            I doubt it ...
            While we cannot bring the developments of Soviet designers to mind, the Zircon does not fly far, and only hits a stationary target, and you are here with a new round.
            1. 0
              25 July 2021 14: 30
              Learn physics, in such dimensions it is possible to create a "proton torpedo" only in Hollywood cartoons! Once already URO USAF, already in their planes did not fit! Do you remember the Bold Orion MRBM & projects Medusa and RC-747? And American BRZhK.
        2. -2
          24 July 2021 14: 55
          Listen to the Tatu song - They won't catch us. wassat
        3. +8
          24 July 2021 15: 18
          Quote: Bez 310
          Quote: ccsr
          The Russian people are also happy about it

          Why?
          The fact that the arms race does not allow our people to get out of poverty?
          In a few months, the United States will catch up and overtake us in hypersonic missiles, their achievements are simply amazing, so what? Tighten your belts again? And so it's scary to look at prices ...


          Their trolls are amazing. The propaganda is true with them, with the Americans, primitive.
          1. -1
            24 July 2021 22: 02
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            Quote: Bez 310
            Quote: ccsr
            The Russian people are also happy about it

            Why?
            The fact that the arms race does not allow our people to get out of poverty?
            In a few months, the United States will catch up and overtake us in hypersonic missiles, their achievements are simply amazing, so what? Tighten your belts again? And so it's scary to look at prices ...


            Their trolls are amazing. The propaganda is true with them, with the Americans, primitive.


            You write this to the pilot of the naval aviation.
            Albeit a pensioner recently.
            But not a bonnet-dresser ...
        4. -1
          24 July 2021 18: 17
          Quote: Bez 310
          Why?

          The fact that June 22 will not happen again.
          Quote: Bez 310
          The fact that the arms race does not allow our people to get out of poverty?

          Would you like to drink Bavarian and the Germans to rule over us? You cannot live in an arms race, so look for a more well-fed country where people are less freedom-loving and only think about food - the Baltic republics, for example.
          Quote: Bez 310
          In a few months, the United States will catch up and overtake us on hypersonic missiles,

          Do you work as a chief designer at their enterprises, since you know at what stage of their development they are? They could not even create their own Tu-144, as well as a vertical take-off aircraft, and you already immediately attributed the primacy to them - why would that be?
          Quote: Bez 310
          Tighten your belts again?

          Freedom is worth a lot - was it not explained to you in Soviet times?
          Quote: Bez 310
          And so it's scary to look at prices ...

          Leadership is always costly - this must be reckoned with. And I don’t see how our people are tightening their belts, judging by the fact that in the spring of this year the demand for cars has jumped by almost 30% compared to last year.
          1. -1
            24 July 2021 22: 03
            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Bez 310
            Why?

            The fact that June 22 will not happen again.
            Quote: Bez 310
            The fact that the arms race does not allow our people to get out of poverty?

            Would you like to drink Bavarian and the Germans to rule over us? You cannot live in an arms race, so look for a more well-fed country where people are less freedom-loving and only think about food - the Baltic republics, for example.
            Quote: Bez 310
            In a few months, the United States will catch up and overtake us on hypersonic missiles,

            Do you work as a chief designer at their enterprises, since you know at what stage of their development they are? They could not even create their own Tu-144, as well as a vertical take-off aircraft, and you already immediately attributed the primacy to them - why would that be?
            Quote: Bez 310
            Tighten your belts again?

            Freedom is worth a lot - was it not explained to you in Soviet times?
            Quote: Bez 310
            And so it's scary to look at prices ...

            Leadership is always costly - this must be reckoned with. And I don’t see how our people are tightening their belts, judging by the fact that in the spring of this year the demand for cars has jumped by almost 30% compared to last year.


            They created vertical take-off planes before us.

            Next.
            Aircraft Tu-144, start of operation 1975, end of operation 1978 ...
            Fuck what kind of plane it turned out ..
            The fuselage resource is only 500 hours ..
            All...
            Stunned what a result for civil aviation.
            Considering that the Concordes flew much more ...
            You just won't learn to think with your head and not lie!
            Because you are lying and manipulating facts in each of your messages ..
            You are a liar and a liar ...
            I wrote to you about this more than once ..

            And the Boeing 2707 was already built in 68 in the amount of 2 units ..
            And there were about 110 orders for it ..
            Solid orders.
            Boeing abandoned production due to the fact that 99% of its airfields are located within the city and its operation will have problems for residents.
            And there will be huge, simply colossal costs.
            Which will prevent operators from making a profit ...
            And all
            A real businessman thinks a little further than the customer.
            1. -1
              25 July 2021 09: 27
              Quote: SovAr238A
              They created vertical take-off planes before us.

              They did not have an analogue of the Yak-38, they bought Harriers - you are not in the subject here either.
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Aircraft Tu-144, start of operation 1975, end of operation 1978 ...
              Fuck what kind of plane it turned out ..

              It turned out to be normal, and would have flown for many years, but tickets for it were too cheap, I had to allocate large subsidies. So the program was curtailed.
              Quote: SovAr238A
              You just won't learn to think with your head and not lie!

              You are just a typical chatterbox, not knowing how things really were with airplanes.
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Boeing abandoned production due to the fact that 99% of its airfields are located within the city and its operation will have problems for residents.

              They hung up on your ears, because they could not oppose something to the Concorde. For some reason, there were no such problems in Europe.
              Quote: SovAr238A
              A real businessman thinks a little further than the customer.

              Are you a real businessman? They made me laugh, because some types of technology, for example, military, will not be able to profit from the word at all.
            2. 0
              25 July 2021 14: 35
              Name the model of this IBA. All old German patents. Eh, created ... They tore not ours and ours. Further: Tu-144 still exists in the form of Tu-144LL 5 units! There are different Concorde - only in the museum.
              Where is your Super Sonic flying then? In your wet dreams. as well as the acclaimed record holder Valkirira. It flew brightly and not for long, and even not for its intended purpose.
              1. -1
                25 July 2021 20: 57
                Quote: 9lvariag
                Name the model of this IBA. All old German patents. Eh, created ... They tore not ours and ours. Further: Tu-144 still exists in the form of Tu-144LL 5 units! There are different Concorde - only in the museum.
                Where is your Super Sonic flying then? In your wet dreams. as well as the acclaimed record holder Valkirira. It flew brightly and not for long, and even not for its intended purpose.

                What is this set of thoughts for?
                The Tu-144 civil aviation aircraft was decommissioned after only 3 years of this very civilian operation.
                Let's not forget that not a single civilian pilot flew the Tu-144.
                Test pilots only. Even in those same 3 years of civilian operation.
                When did the planes do 10-12 hours a week? Including 500 hours for the entire plane?
                And 134 carcass had from 50 hours ... how's that?
                100 times ...
                And what's in the flying laboratories?
                When they make sense to zero point zero tenths, because everything they could, everything had already been tested at the stage of testing the first Tu-144 samples ...
                They, these LL, did not give anything to either science or technology ... it was just necessary to put the freed carcasses somewhere.
                And they were copied into LL.
                And the whole truth.
              2. -1
                25 July 2021 21: 14
                Quote: 9lvariag
                Name the model of this IBA.

                Mirage-3 in version 5 took off vertically in 65 ...
                A decision was made that such a system is futile at this level of technology.
                And besides him there were at that time the Dutch and Italians and Germans.
                With their flying specimens.
                Serial production of the Harrier began in 67.
                Yak-38 began mass production only in 74.


                Will you still write nonsense?
                Or maybe 5Learn military history?
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      4. +3
        24 July 2021 14: 33
        Quote: ccsr
        And this is perceived with approval by the entire Soviet people, as they would say in the days of Brezhnev.

        In the days of LIB it would have been: "Stormy prolonged applause, turning into a standing ovation" ...
        Yes
      5. +2
        24 July 2021 14: 52
        And here Leonid Ilyich was greatly mistaken, as reality showed, not all Soviet people approved of the party's policy and loudly clapped their hands. Many with gnashing teeth waited in the wings, and, strange as it sounds, they did.
    3. +2
      24 July 2021 13: 38
      The Americans hoped to otmaidan Russia, so they abandoned strategic weapons, and Russia does not have aircraft carriers either - the main goal for hypersound, it is believed that their lag in this area reaches 10-15 years, and this can be said forever.
      1. +3
        24 July 2021 14: 33
        Quote: Andobor
        it is believed that their lag in this area reaches 10-15 years, and this can be said forever.

        There is no need to practice self-comfort. This will not lead to anything good.
        On the next branch, everything is written about the AM analogue of the "Dagger". AGM-183A is called. Their prototype, the US Air Force, has already ordered 8 units for 2021-2022. A 4 units. will be put into service by 2023. Lockheed Martin has already received 988 million greenbacks. And this is not the limit.
        It's time for us to push our strength in the direction of the PAK DP in order to shoot down the B-52N in the Arctic, where the A-50U is already being transferred ... And why would that be?
        1. 0
          24 July 2021 16: 55
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          There is no need to practice self-comfort.

          Are you now amer? laughing They understand, of course, that with the hyper-missiles already in service at full speed, the Russian Federation is working on air defense against them. There is something to work with for real goals. This is not for you to calculate something hypothetical on your computer, but a real weight! Yes
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        3. -2
          24 July 2021 22: 35
          Quote: BoA KAA

          It's time for us to push our strength in the direction of the PAK DP in order to shoot down the B-52N in the Arctic, where the A-50U is already being transferred ... And why would that be?

          How Pak-DP will shoot down B-52N?
          They are based in Mizzuri, Montana ...
          They should fly to the launch range of their hyper for at least 6 hours.
          By the time they approach the launch zone, all aviation from the Elmendorf base, with the help of a couple of dozen tankers, will iron our air defense in the entire Northern direction ...
          We have nothing to oppose to Elmendorf.
          They've got everything there
          One and a half hundred fighters. Has already.
          3 dozen tankers and a dozen AWACS aircraft will be relocated very quickly.
          What can we do?
          It's nothing.
          AWACS. There are in the amount of 5 live pieces at the level of the 70s ... I do not lag behind for 50 years
          There are 8 or less zaprashchikov in the Air Force today.
          What will be the result?

          1. -2
            25 July 2021 09: 31
            Quote: SovAr238A
            What will be the result?

            The result will be the same - as long as they fly up to our territory, the United States itself, as a state, will no longer exist. Learn materiel "expert" in military affairs ...
          2. 0
            25 July 2021 11: 08
            Quote: SovAr238A
            How Pak-DP will shoot down B-52N?

            Generally, it is desirable before the boundary of the solution of B-52 problems ... And this is at least 2000 km from the state border.
            Quote: SovAr238A
            all aviation from the Elmendorf base, with the help of a couple of dozen tankers, will iron our air defense in the entire Northern direction ...

            And our Aerospace Forces (missile forces, Strategic Missile Forces) will not present anything at their airbases !? Neither preemptive nor obstructive actions on our part, as I understood from your post, are foreseen? No electronic warfare to help you - nothing? Well, dads - YES ... we will not see success in repelling the Yankee Air Strike, like a quitter 13 salary. laughing
            Quote: SovAr238A
            We have nothing to oppose to Elmendorf.
            I got the impression that you do not follow the placement of our OTRs in the VVO ... We have already deployed complexes in Kamchatka and Chukotka. Air defense / missile defense in the Far East is also being seriously strengthened.
            According to Izvestia, the basis of the new army's grouping will be the 317th Mixed Aviation Regiment, deployed in Elizovo near Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, and the 53rd Air Defense Division based there. The headquarters of the operational formation will also be deployed here. The existing units and formations will be reinforced ... The army will have at least two divisions - aviation and air defense. Similar transformations are taking place, recall, and in other fleets. For example, in the winter of 2015, the 45th Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Northern Fleet was formed. This made it possible, in particular, to strengthen control over the airspace in the Arctic.

            The units are re-equipped with new models of equipment. So all is not lost.
        4. 0
          25 July 2021 14: 41
          In fact, SAC USAF has had such projects since the 1970s, humpbacked, and if we count the ASAT F-15 (too, after all, IRBMs would not have knocked down satellites) and our An-22R with 9Zh40 - too much. So sho analogo and the radigma itself is not new for a long time already. They get stuck that this weapon of retaliation is not spelled out in strategic offensive arms in the nuclear version.
    4. +3
      24 July 2021 13: 39
      Most of all, the Americans are trying, who intend to neutralize Russia's advantage within a few months, perhaps a year and a half, the author writes.


      We'll wait and see when and where they come ...
    5. -3
      24 July 2021 13: 53
      Guys wangyu, tomorrow at the Star they will report on the tests of Zircon and not only will they show the start! Who is against it? Unanimously!
      1. 0
        24 July 2021 16: 57
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Guys wangyu, tomorrow at the Star they will report on the tests of Zircon and not only will they show the start! Who is against it? Unanimously!

        Brilliant! ..only hackneyed. Need to develop and look for other phrases fool Yes
    6. -9
      24 July 2021 14: 05
      Well, in general. The object is not mobile, for guidance that Krasnopolya, that the whaler - a deep reconnaissance group in the minus. These shells / mines are not for tanks. Demonstrated the effectiveness of the destruction of a stationary object. No more. Americans and insolently use the same groups to aim KAB / UAB
      1. +5
        24 July 2021 14: 21
        Quote: Stas1973
        Well, in general. The object is not mobile, for guidance that Krasnopol, that the whaler - a group of deep reconnaissance in the minus. These shells / mines are not for tanks. Showed the effectiveness of the destruction of a stationary object. No more.

        Just to throw on? Where in the article is there at least one mention of "the guidance of that Krasnopol, that the whaler is a deep reconnaissance group in the minus. These shells / mines are not for tanks."?
        Moreover, in the topic about Krasnopol, you have already been told that target illumination is possible from 5 km, or from a UAV. Learn materiel.
        1. -2
          24 July 2021 22: 42
          Quote: kot423

          Just to throw on? Where in the article is there at least one mention of "the guidance of that Krasnopol, that the whaler is a deep reconnaissance group in the minus. These shells / mines are not for tanks."?
          Moreover, in the topic about Krasnopol, you have already been told that target illumination is possible from 5 km, or from a UAV. Learn materiel.

          What laser designator in our army is capable of penetrating a target of 5 km, taking into account the search for the reflected signal by means of amelet or helicopter?
          tell me this fantastic option?

          Well, what would not throw ...
          You are a specialist in throwing on a fan ...
          1. +1
            24 July 2021 23: 41
            Quote: SovAr238A
            You are a specialist in throwing on a fan ...

            I do not advise you to go personal with me, it is better to teach the materiel further, like the previous "thrower". For the gifted:
            Laser designator-rangefinder 1D15, target designation range 0,2-5,0 km. Tested in 1985, at the "Daredevil" complex.
            http://www.dogswar.ru/boepripasy/snariady-rakety/7716-kompleks-korrektirye.html
        2. 0
          25 July 2021 07: 14
          I did not understand the essence of the claim. If the terrain allows, you can highlight it for 5 km. But not to destroy the tank. In 95% of cases, illumination from the ground is possible at best up to 1 km. Relief, buildings, etc. I did not even remember about the UAV, during my service it was not. He will live above the battlefield until it is discovered.
          1. +2
            25 July 2021 08: 08
            Quote: Stas1973
            I did not understand the essence of the claim.

            The essence of the claim is that you are ready to throw about Krasnopol, etc. in any topic, even about hyper missiles, forgetting that these are completely different types of weapons.
            If only they looked at the materiel for this weapon, then they realized that the zircon, the dagger are guided by an AWACS, another ship, a glonass, a dome, a liana. There are plenty to choose from.
            "In 95% of cases, illumination from the ground is possible at best up to 1 km. Relief, buildings, etc."
            Nu-nu ... Above, the link was given by Brave * y, it turns out that you alone worked up to 1 km, and eyewitnesses to the use of this complex with towed M-240 mortars shone at a distance of less than 3 km, which does not mean 1 km at all, and this is in Afghanistan with its relief. It turns out - they lie?
            1. -1
              25 July 2021 08: 45
              About Drlo, the dome (I don’t know what it is), the liana (which has not yet been deployed), the glonass, another ship (is the term “radio horizon” familiar?) - all this is good, for the future, but so far, as we would like, it does not work.
              About the daredevil and 3 km - I am not in the least. But this is not the rule, but the exception.
              About nayuros = yes no, there is a personal opinion, weighed and which does not like hurray for the consumers. Why do you shrink ahead of time?
              1. 0
                25 July 2021 15: 29
                And what do you dislike about "Hurray" and where did you think it was here? If you hear a real Hurray, then you will not have time to jump to the place of relief!
                1. 0
                  25 July 2021 15: 43
                  Another. It seems not spring, there should be no exacerbation? What do you want, dear?
                  1. 0
                    25 July 2021 16: 57
                    You, as I understand it, agree to everything?
    7. +3
      24 July 2021 14: 24
      Does the United States or China have something cooler than the S-400? Or the "Sky-UM" radar, which can counteract the enemy's electronic warfare in a circular view from 10 km to 600 km., Altitudes up to 80 km. and azimuth 360 degrees, in radial velocity
      50 - 18000 km / h. Information update rate 1-3 sec. Detects all aircraft, UAVs, including stealth and ballistic missiles.
      1. +6
        24 July 2021 15: 22
        "Why, the US or China has something cooler"

        Good comment, someone has already surreptitiously minus negative
        What is alarming is the personnel potential of our design bureaus, as an example: the brother of my first wife after university went to work in a specialized design bureau (Roscosmos), along with him there were quite a few young employees in the department, as a result there were only a few left, because It was difficult to live on a salary of 20000, and the compensation for the rent was canceled. In his words, in order to reach only more or less indicators, it takes from three years (when you understand what is required of you), to become a real design engineer - a decade, i.e. they lost one wave, and how many such waves were unknown, the basis of this design bureau (in his words) is employees of pre-retirement and retirement age. And judging by the frequency of the satellites launched into orbit (how many this year and how many will be allowed in 2015), the situation is getting worse ... I'm waiting for your cons Yes
        1. +1
          25 July 2021 16: 10
          And a friend of my friend told me that there are no design bureaus at all, everything is drawn on the bridgefilm for trillions of dollars, which of you is lying?
          1. 0
            25 July 2021 18: 25
            You know, unlike you, I do not carry nonsense, and the relationship at that time (2012) with the brother (sibling) of my ex was extremely trusting, so no insinuations of an altered consciousness are needed, in extreme cases you can listen to the last revue of Boronets, there is the same in passing this problem was voiced you .
            ..
      2. 0
        24 July 2021 22: 47
        Quote: askort154
        Does the United States or China have something cooler than the S-400? Or the "Sky-UM" radar, which can counteract the enemy's electronic warfare in a circular view from 10 km to 600 km., Altitudes up to 80 km. and azimuth 360 degrees, in radial velocity
        50 - 18000 km / h. Information update rate 1-3 sec. Detects all aircraft, UAVs, including stealth and ballistic missiles.

        How can a radar station counteract electronic warfare?
        Especially if it's not AFAR ...
        Well, at least something of the knowledge you need to have in your head ...
        Especially knowing that she does not know how to work on targets below 300 meters ..
        Doesn't know how from a word at all
        1. 0
          25 July 2021 13: 37
          Delve deeper: into the basis, and the possibility of spreading EMW in the Atmosphere. Especially in the 21st century. hi
        2. 0
          25 July 2021 16: 14
          Well, finally, a knowledgeable person appeared, 300 meters about what do not tell with links to the source of information?
    8. +1
      24 July 2021 14: 25
      So far, with their finances and developments, we were the first to create a combat hypersound, and they are all sawing a zumvolt, a railgun, a flying laser, even a penguin has not been sawn yet. Therefore, let's see what our next cartoons are and their soybeans and super-duper rockets, the main thing is not to stop, which is not observed.
    9. +1
      24 July 2021 14: 51
      Well, you might think. that our designers will sit still when these sworn "friends" will "catch up" when they "catch up" with us in one, they will understand that they have lagged behind forever in another.
      1. -7
        24 July 2021 15: 40
        Quote: maiman61
        you might think. that our designers will sit still

        Do you think that it was Russian designers who designed something? At best, they modernized the developments of Soviet designers. And they, the Soviet designers, will soon die out, and then we will see the "bare bottom" of modern designers and "effective managers."
        1. -1
          24 July 2021 17: 02
          Quote: Bez 310
          Quote: maiman61
          you might think. that our designers will sit still

          Do you think that it was Russian designers who designed something? At best, they modernized the developments of Soviet designers. And they, the Soviet designers, will soon die out, and then we will see the "bare bottom" of modern designers and "effective managers."

          Here was the POWER OF THE USSR! Not 30 years old, but the Americans are trying to catch up with even the 30-year experience of the USSR! good
          1. -2
            24 July 2021 17: 46
            Quote: Babay Atasovich
            Here was the POWER OF THE USSR!

            Yes, it was POWER that was!
            "Yes, there were people these days,
            Not that the present tribe:
            Bogatyrs are not you! "
            1. -3
              24 July 2021 18: 51
              And the mattress covers with holes are all traders, so they bought shadow workers from the USSR. Those whom Andropov did not have time to plant, and slipped Humpback. Well, and later they were thrown by black-marketeers, nimble Komsomol members, etc. Yes
              But about the development - bummer! Yes, in the 90s, work was going on, slowly, but it was going on. People between trips to pick mushrooms and to the garden, not only worked, flew, walked on okiyans, but also raised their youth. Those who loved their homeland. The witness himself! So it’s not “FSE lost!” - the change has been in office for a long time! soldier Yes
        2. -1
          25 July 2021 11: 45
          "Do you think that it was Russian designers who designed something?" I am just happy that the enemies of our people think so and are sure of this! It means that we will create such a weapon that our "partners" will suffer from diarrhea around the clock!
          1. 0
            25 July 2021 11: 47
            Quote: maiman61
            enemies of our people

            "Public Enemies"...
            And also - "Shoot like mad dogs!"
            Somewhere it was already ...
        3. -1
          25 July 2021 14: 51
          Well, where do we have to ehvective NASA managers with their launches worth $ 30 billion and flights to the moon on liquefied methane / acyylene (and it explodes under pressure) with Bush's son for $ 60 billion for two cartoons for 10 minutes and Wars with aliens for $ 50 billion. Here Rogozin is a pitiful amateur and a lousy. And boldly add the requests / ambitions of both Mask and Rutana to the court.
        4. 0
          25 July 2021 16: 19
          The entire Soviet backlog of design developments since the end of the 80s was stolen by the Soros people, but this does not help the Americans much, although they stole a lot of things and bought them cheaply.
        5. 0
          25 July 2021 16: 46
          What Soviet ones? These are still tsarist engineers of development, and then the Bolsheviks came and, therefore, they shot everyone for 70 years.
    10. -1
      24 July 2021 16: 54
      “They are trying to catch up with Russian developers in China, the United States and France, which have announced plans to develop their own hypersonic weapons, as well as in a number of other countries. . "
      Only if Russian scientists and designers rest on their laurels and stop new developments, so the West only has to dream about it.
    11. -2
      24 July 2021 21: 57
      350 km - range of Onyx ...
      Which confirms that Zircon is a modification of Onyx.
      And we are not talking about any 1000 km ...
      1. -2
        25 July 2021 14: 55
        Uncle, the range of the P-1000, especially the P-1000A "Meteorite-A" for areal targets - 4200 km. on mixed trajectories
        Quote: SovAr238A
        350 km - range of Onyx ...
        Which confirms that Zircon is a modification of Onyx.
        And we are not talking about any 1000 km ...
        speed up to 3M.! Go hungover already and bainki, connoisseur of rackets of the Soviet Navy. Something like this..
        Rather, a modification of the P-1000 with SPVRD.
        1. +1
          25 July 2021 16: 46
          Quote: 9lvariag
          the range of the P-1000, the more so the P-1000A "Meteorite-A" for area targets - 4200 km.

          Sturgeon must be cut ...
        2. -1
          25 July 2021 21: 29
          Quote: 9lvariag
          Uncle, the range of the P-1000, especially the P-1000A "Meteorite-A" for areal targets - 4200 km. on mixed trajectories
          Quote: SovAr238A
          350 km - range of Onyx ...
          Which confirms that Zircon is a modification of Onyx.
          And we are not talking about any 1000 km ...
          speed up to 3M.! Go hungover already and bainki, connoisseur of rackets of the Soviet Navy. Something like this..
          Rather, a modification of the P-1000 with SPVRD.

          For dunce ...
          Interpreting that Zircon is a modification of the Volcano ...
          Zircon, then the terms of reference of the Navy should fit into the Onyx dimensions according to UKSK ...
          Accordingly, your whole set of fantasies and insults is on your side.
          For you can see complete ignorance of materiel and complete illiteracy ..
          Another nickname from the Romario Agro family, USSR, Operator ???
    12. +1
      25 July 2021 16: 50
      Hypersonic missiles are not really needed for attack tactics, the range is shorter than that of subsonic missiles, the cost of delivering a warhead is much higher, what is the use of speed for an attack? The defending side can use such missiles from an "ambush", for example from submarines, but it is desirable for the attacking side to strike from a long distance and to a great depth of defense. The Americans still rely on floating airfields, they are more expensive to manufacture, but cheaper to deliver warheads to the enemy, incl. they are unlikely to strain strongly in the direction of hypersound.
    13. 0
      27 July 2021 21: 52
      Quote: SovAr238A
      Quote: 9lvariag
      Name the model of this IBA. All old German patents. Eh, created ... They tore not ours and ours. Further: Tu-144 still exists in the form of Tu-144LL 5 units! There are different Concorde - only in the museum.
      Where is your Super Sonic flying then? In your wet dreams. as well as the acclaimed record holder Valkirira. It flew brightly and not for long, and even not for its intended purpose.

      What is this set of thoughts for?
      The Tu-144 civil aviation aircraft was decommissioned after only 3 years of this very civilian operation.
      Let's not forget that not a single civilian pilot flew the Tu-144.
      Test pilots only. Even in those same 3 years of civilian operation.
      When did the planes do 10-12 hours a week? Including 500 hours for the entire plane?
      And 134 carcass had from 50 hours ... how's that?
      100 times ...
      And what's in the flying laboratories?
      When they make sense to zero point zero tenths, because everything they could, everything had already been tested at the stage of testing the first Tu-144 samples ...
      They, these LL, did not give anything to either science or technology ... it was just necessary to put the freed carcasses somewhere.
      And they were copied into LL.
      And the whole truth.

      Uncle a set of thoughts you have. Realize this and stop burning here.
      First I'll read about the Tu-144LL, then write to me. Or better not throw your air and space on topwar.ru servers with your spam. I am getting old and on Tuesdays I don’t submit links and #devmosk transplant - I don’t do it. PS: it doesn't matter that the program itself was paid for by the US transnational corporations and the Tu-144LL itself, according to the remote control, the avionics have little in common with the Tu-144 (and even with the Tu-144D). By the way: if you didn’t know everything and all modifications of the Tu-144, more than 20 units were produced! This is according to official figures.
    14. 0
      27 July 2021 21: 54
      Quote: SovAr238A
      Quote: 9lvariag
      Name the model of this IBA.

      Mirage-3 in version 5 took off vertically in 65 ...
      A decision was made that such a system is futile at this level of technology.
      And besides him there were at that time the Dutch and Italians and Germans.
      With their flying specimens.
      Serial production of the Harrier began in 67.
      Yak-38 began mass production only in 74.


      Will you still write nonsense?
      Or maybe 5Learn military history?

      Nonsense? Are you autistic? I said: name the model of the American vertical takeoff IBA. :) In short, we got shit and immediately washed up.
    15. 0
      27 July 2021 22: 05
      Quote: SovAr238A
      Quote: 9lvariag
      Uncle, the range of the P-1000, especially the P-1000A "Meteorite-A" for areal targets - 4200 km. on mixed trajectories
      Quote: SovAr238A
      350 km - range of Onyx ...
      Which confirms that Zircon is a modification of Onyx.
      And we are not talking about any 1000 km ...
      speed up to 3M.! Go hungover already and bainki, connoisseur of rackets of the Soviet Navy. Something like this..
      Rather, a modification of the P-1000 with SPVRD.

      For dunce ...
      Interpreting that Zircon is a modification of the Volcano ...
      Zircon, then the terms of reference of the Navy should fit into the Onyx dimensions according to UKSK ...
      Accordingly, your whole set of fantasies and insults is on your side.
      For you can see complete ignorance of materiel and complete illiteracy ..
      Another nickname from the Romario Agro family, USSR, Operator ???

      1. Yes, I don't give a damn which side are you walking / driving. To me, the always playing horses in the comments are not buddies. Manipulator you I will look no worse than emo-Marxists. Kostyk Semin's type.
      2. I've seen a video about the mythical Soviet hypersonic KR X-96. They have it in the description, she was there in 1987, flew with four liquid-propellant rocket engines (!) And barely fit into the compartment of the Tu-160 AV. True, in the video series, under Gorby, she successfully flew so on target.
      3. I do not interpret anything. I assumed that in the dimensions of Meteorite-P, it is easier to make a rocket with a scramjet engine for miracles do not happen.

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